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Excerpt: "After the assassination of bin Laden I received such a deluge of requests for comment that I was unable to respond individually, and on May 4 and later I sent an unedited form response instead, not intending for it to be posted, and expecting to write it up more fully and carefully later on. But it was posted, then circulated.... The original letter ends with the comment that 'There is much more to say, but even the most obvious and elementary facts should provide us with a good deal to think about.' Here I will fill in some of the gaps, leaving the original otherwise unchanged in all essentials."

Portrait, Noam Chomsky, 06/15/09. (photo: Sam Lahoz)
Portrait, Noam Chomsky, 06/15/09. (photo: Sam Lahoz)



Bin Laden's Death: Much More to Say

By Noam Chomsky, Reader Supported News

21 May 11

After the assassination of bin Laden I received such a deluge of requests for comment that I was unable to respond individually, and on May 4 and later I sent an unedited form response instead, not intending for it to be posted, and expecting to write it up more fully and carefully later on. But it was posted, then circulated. It can now be found, reposted, here.

That was followed by a deluge of reactions from all over the world. It is far from a scientific sample of course, but nevertheless, the tendencies may be of some interest. Overwhelmingly, those from the "third world" were on the order of "thanks for saying what we think." There were similar ones from the US, but many others were infuriated, often virtually hysterical, with almost no relation to the actual content of the posted form letter. That was true in particular of the posted or published responses brought to my attention. I have received a few requests to comment on several of these. Frankly, it seems to me superfluous. If there is any interest, I'll nevertheless find some time to do so.

The original letter ends with the comment that "There is much more to say, but even the most obvious and elementary facts should provide us with a good deal to think about." Here I will fill in some of the gaps, leaving the original otherwise unchanged in all essentials.

Noam Chomsky

May 2011

n May 1, 2011, Osama bin Laden was killed in his virtually unprotected compound by a raiding mission of 79 Navy Seals, who entered Pakistan by helicopter. After many lurid stories were provided by the government and withdrawn, official reports made it increasingly clear that the operation was a planned assassination, multiply violating elementary norms of international law, beginning with the invasion itself.

There appears to have been no attempt to apprehend the unarmed victim, as presumably could have been done by 79 commandos facing no opposition - except, they report, from his wife, also unarmed, who they shot in self-defense when she "lunged" at them (according to the White House).

A plausible reconstruction of the events is provided by veteran Middle East correspondent Yochi Dreazen and colleagues in The Atlantic. Dreazen, formerly the military correspondent for the Wall Street Journal, is senior correspondent for the National Journal Group covering military affairs and national security. According to their investigation, White House planning appears not to have considered the option of capturing OBL alive: "The administration had made clear to the military's clandestine Joint Special Operations Command that it wanted bin Laden dead, according to a senior U.S. official with knowledge of the discussions. A high-ranking military officer briefed on the assault said the SEALs knew their mission was not to take him alive."

The authors add: "For many at the Pentagon and the Central Intelligence Agency who had spent nearly a decade hunting bin Laden, killing the militant was a necessary and justified act of vengeance." Furthermore, "Capturing bin Laden alive would have also presented the administration with an array of nettlesome legal and political challenges." Better, then, to assassinate him, dumping his body into the sea without the autopsy considered essential after a killing, whether considered justified or not � an act that predictably provoked both anger and skepticism in much of the Muslim world.

As the Atlantic inquiry observes, "The decision to kill bin Laden outright was the clearest illustration to date of a little-noticed aspect of the Obama administration's counterterror policy. The Bush administration captured thousands of suspected militants and sent them to detention camps in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Guantanamo Bay. The Obama administration, by contrast, has focused on eliminating individual terrorists rather than attempting to take them alive." That is one significant difference between Bush and Obama. The authors quote former West German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt, who "told German TV that the U.S. raid was 'quite clearly a violation of international law' and that bin Laden should have been detained and put on trial," contrasting Schmidt with US Attorney General Eric Holder, who "defended the decision to kill bin Laden although he didn't pose an immediate threat to the Navy SEALs, telling a House panel on Tuesday that the assault had been 'lawful, legitimate and appropriate in every way'."

The disposal of the body without autopsy was also criticized by allies. The highly regarded British barrister Geoffrey Robertson, who supported the intervention and opposed the execution largely on pragmatic grounds, nevertheless described Obama's claim that "justice was done" as an "absurdity" that should have been obvious to a former professor of constitutional law. Pakistan law "requires a colonial inquest on violent death, and international human rights law insists that the 'right to life' mandates an inquiry whenever violent death occurs from government or police action. The U.S. is therefore under a duty to hold an inquiry that will satisfy the world as to the true circumstances of this killing." Robertson adds that "The law permits criminals to be shot in self-defense if they (or their accomplices) resist arrest in ways that endanger those striving to apprehend them. They should, if possible, be given the opportunity to surrender, but even if they do not come out with their hands up, they must be taken alive if that can be achieved without risk. Exactly how bin Laden came to be 'shot in the head' (especially if it was the back of his head, execution-style) therefore requires explanation. Why a hasty 'burial at sea' without a post mortem, as the law requires?"

Robertson attributes the murder to "America's obsessive belief in capital punishment�alone among advanced nations�[which] is reflected in its rejoicing at the manner of bin Laden's demise." For example, Nation columnist Eric Alterman writes that "The killing of Osama bin Laden was a just and necessary undertaking."

Robertson usefully reminds us that "It was not always thus. When the time came to consider the fate of men much more steeped in wickedness than Osama bin Laden - namely the Nazi leadership - the British government wanted them hanged within six hours of capture. President Truman demurred, citing the conclusion of Justice Robert Jackson that summary execution 'would not sit easily on the American conscience or be remembered by our children with pride ... the only course is to determine the innocence or guilt of the accused after a hearing as dispassionate as the times will permit and upon a record that will leave our reasons and motives clear'."

The editors of the Daily Beast comment that "The joy is understandable, but to many outsiders, unattractive. It endorses what looks increasingly like a cold-blooded assassination as the White House is now forced to admit that Osama bin Laden was unarmed when he was shot twice in the head."

In societies that profess some respect for law, suspects are apprehended and brought to fair trial. I stress "suspects." In June 2002, FBI head Robert Mueller, in what the Washington Post described as "among his most detailed public comments on the origins of the attacks," could say only that "investigators believe the idea of the Sept. 11 attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon came from al Qaeda leaders in Afghanistan, the actual plotting was done in Germany, and the financing came through the United Arab Emirates from sources in Afghanistan.... We think the masterminds of it were in Afghanistan, high in the al Qaeda leadership." What the FBI believed and thought in June 2002 they didn't know eight months earlier, when Washington dismissed tentative offers by the Taliban (how serious, we do not know) to extradite bin Laden if they were presented with evidence. Thus it is not true, as the President claimed in his White House statement, that "We quickly learned that the 9/11 attacks were carried out by al Qaeda."

There has never been any reason to doubt what the FBI believed in mid-2002, but that leaves us far from the proof of guilt required in civilized societies � and whatever the evidence might be, it does not warrant murdering a suspect who could, it seems, have been easily apprehended and brought to trial. Much the same is true of evidence provided since. Thus the 9/11 Commission provided extensive circumstantial evidence of bin Laden's role in 9/11, based primarily on what it had been told about confessions by prisoners in Guantanamo. It is doubtful that much of that would hold up in an independent court, considering the ways confessions were elicited. But in any event, the conclusions of a congressionally authorized investigation, however convincing one finds them, plainly fall short of a sentence by a credible court, which is what shifts the category of the accused from suspect to convicted. There is much talk of bin Laden's "confession," but that was a boast, not a confession, with as much credibility as my "confession" that I won the Boston marathon. The boast tells us a lot about his character, but nothing about his responsibility for what he regarded as a great achievement, for which he wanted to take credit.

Again, all of this is, transparently, quite independent of one's judgments about his responsibility, which seemed clear immediately, even before the FBI inquiry, and still does.

It is worth adding that bin Laden's responsibility was recognized in much of the Muslim world, and condemned. One significant example is the distinguished Lebanese cleric Sheikh Fadlallah, greatly respected by Hizbollah and Shia groups generally, outside Lebanon as well. He too had been targeted for assassination: by a truck bomb outside a mosque, in a CIA-organized operation in 1985. He escaped, but 80 others were killed, mostly women and girls, as they left the mosque � one of those innumerable crimes that do not enter the annals of terror because of the fallacy of "wrong agency." Sheikh Fadlallah sharply condemned the 9/11 attacks, as did many other leading figures in the Muslim world, within the Jihadi movement as well. Among others, the head of Hizbollah, Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah, sharply condemned bin Laden and Jihadi ideology.

One of the leading specialists on the Jihadi movement, Fawaz Gerges, suggests that the movement might have been split at that time had the US exploited the opportunity instead of mobilizing the movement, particularly by the attack on Iraq, a great boon to bin Laden, which led to a sharp increase in terror, as intelligence agencies had anticipated. That conclusion was confirmed by the former head of Britain's domestic intelligence agency MI5 at the Chilcot hearings investigating the background for the war. Confirming other analyses, she testified that both British and US intelligence were aware that Saddam posed no serious threat and that the invasion was likely to increase terror; and that the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan had radicalized parts of a generation of Muslims who saw the military actions as an "attack on Islam." As is often the case, security was not a high priority for state action.

It might be instructive to ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush's compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic (after proper burial rites, of course). Uncontroversially, he is not a "suspect" but the "decider" who gave the orders to invade Iraq - that is, to commit the "supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole" (quoting the Nuremberg Tribunal) for which Nazi criminals were hanged: in Iraq, the hundreds of thousands of deaths, millions of refugees, destruction of much of the country and the national heritage, and the murderous sectarian conflict that has now spread to the rest of the region. Equally uncontroversially, these crimes vastly exceed anything attributed to bin Laden.

To say that all of this is uncontroversial, as it is, is not to imply that it is not denied. The existence of flat earthers does not change the fact that, uncontroversially, the earth is not flat. Similarly, it is uncontroversial that Stalin and Hitler were responsible for horrendous crimes, though loyalists deny it. All of this should, again, be too obvious for comment, and would be, except in an atmosphere of hysteria so extreme that it blocks rational thought.

Similarly, it is uncontroversial that Bush and associates did commit the "supreme international crime," the crime of aggression, at least if we take the Nuremberg Tribunal seriously. The crime of aggression was defined clearly enough by Justice Robert Jackson, Chief of Counsel for the United States at Nuremberg, reiterated in an authoritative General Assembly resolution. An "aggressor," Jackson proposed to the Tribunal in his opening statement, is a state that is the first to commit such actions as "Invasion of its armed forces, with or without a declaration of war, of the territory of another State...." No one, even the most extreme supporter of the aggression, denies that Bush and associates did just that.

We might also do well to recall Jackson's eloquent words at Nuremberg on the principle of universality: "If certain acts of violation of treaties are crimes, they are crimes whether the United States does them or whether Germany does them, and we are not prepared to lay down a rule of criminal conduct against others which we would not be willing to have invoked against us." And elsewhere: "We must never forget that the record on which we judge these defendants is the record on which history will judge us tomorrow. To pass these defendants a poisoned chalice is to put it to our own lips as well."

It is also clear that alleged intentions are irrelevant. Japanese fascists apparently did believe that by ravaging China they were laboring to turn it into an "earthly paradise." We don't know whether Hitler believed that he was defending Germany from the "wild terror" of the Poles, or was taking over Czechoslovakia to protect its population from ethnic conflict and provide them with the benefits of a superior culture, or was saving the glories of the civilization of the Greeks from barbarians of East and West, as his acolytes claimed (Martin Heidegger). And it's even conceivable that Bush and company believed that they were protecting the world from destruction by Saddam's nuclear weapons. All irrelevant, though ardent loyalists on all sides may try to convince themselves otherwise.

We are left with two choices: either Bush and associates are guilty of the "supreme international crime" including all the evils that follow, crimes that go vastly beyond anything attributed to bin Laden; or else we declare that the Nuremberg proceedings were a farce and that the allies were guilty of judicial murder. Again, that is entirely independent of the question of the guilt of those charged: established by the Nuremberg Tribunal in the case of the Nazi criminals, plausibly surmised from the outset in the case of bin Laden.

A few days before the bin Laden assassination, Orlando Bosch died peacefully in Florida, where he resided along with his terrorist accomplice Luis Posada Carilles, and many others. After he was accused of dozens of terrorist crimes by the FBI, Bosch was granted a presidential pardon by Bush I over the objections of the Justice Department, which found the conclusion "inescapable that it would be prejudicial to the public interest for the United States to provide a safe haven for Bosch. "The coincidence of deaths at once calls to mind the Bush II doctrine, which has "already become a de facto rule of international relations," according to the noted Harvard international relations specialist Graham Allison. The doctrine revokes "the sovereignty of states that provide sanctuary to terrorists," Allison writes, referring to the pronouncement of Bush II that "those who harbor terrorists are as guilty as the terrorists themselves," directed to the Taliban. Such states, therefore, have lost their sovereignty and are fit targets for bombing and terror; for example, the state that harbored Bosch and his associate - not to mention some rather more significant candidates. When Bush issued this new "de facto rule of international relations," no one seemed to notice that he was calling for invasion and destruction of the US and murder of its criminal presidents.

None of this is problematic, of course, if we reject Justice Jackson's principle of universality, and adopt instead the principle that the US is self-immunized against international law and conventions - as, in fact, the government has frequently made very clear, an important fact, much too little understood.

It is also worth thinking about the name given to the operation: Operation Geronimo. The imperial mentality is so profound that few seem able to perceive that the White House is glorifying bin Laden by calling him "Geronimo" - the leader of courageous resistance to the invaders who sought to consign his people to the fate of "that hapless race of native Americans, which we are exterminating with such merciless and perfidious cruelty, among the heinous sins of this nation, for which I believe God will one day bring [it] to judgement," in the words of the great grand strategist John Quincy Adams, the intellectual architect of manifest destiny, long after his own contributions to these sins had passed. Some did comprehend, not surprisingly. The remnants of that hapless race protested vigorously. Choice of the name is reminiscent of the ease with which we name our murder weapons after victims of our crimes: Apache, Blackhawk, Tomahawk, ... We might react differently if the Luftwaffe were to call its fighter planes "Jew" and "Gypsy".

The examples mentioned would fall under the category "American exceptionalism," were it not for the fact that easy suppression of one's own crimes is virtually ubiquitous among powerful states, at least those that are not defeated and forced to acknowledge reality. Other current illustrations are too numerous to mention. To take just one, of great current significance, consider Obama's terror weapons (drones) in Pakistan. Suppose that during the 1980s, when they were occupying Afghanistan, the Russians had carried out targeted assassinations in Pakistan aimed at those who were financing, arming and training the insurgents � quite proudly and openly. For example, targeting the CIA station chief in Islamabad, who explained that he "loved" the "noble goal" of his mission: to "kill Soviet Soldiers ... not to liberate Afghanistan." There is no need to imagine the reaction, but there is a crucial distinction: that was them, this is us.

What are the likely consequences of the killing of bin Laden? For the Arab world, it will probably mean little. He had long been a fading presence, and in the past few months was eclipsed by the Arab Spring. His significance in the Arab world is captured by the headline in the New York Times for an op-ed by Middle East/al Qaeda specialist Gilles Kepel; "Bin Laden was Dead Already." Kepel writes that few in the Arab world are likely to care. That headline might have been dated far earlier, had the US not mobilized the Jihadi movement by the attacks on Afghanistan and Iraq, as suggested by the intelligence agencies and scholarship. As for the Jihadi movement, within it bin Laden was doubtless a venerated symbol, but apparently did not play much more of a role for this "network of networks," as analysts call it, which undertake mostly independent operations.

The most immediate and significant consequences are likely to be in Pakistan. There is much discussion of Washington's anger that Pakistan didn't turn over bin Laden. Less is said about the fury in Pakistan that the US invaded their territory to carry out a political assassination. Anti-American fervor had already reached a very high peak in Pakistan, and these events are likely to exacerbate it.

Pakistan is the most dangerous country on earth, also the world's fastest growing nuclear power, with a huge arsenal. It is held together by one stable institution, the military. One of the leading specialists on Pakistan and its military, Anatol Lieven, writes that "if the US ever put Pakistani soldiers in a position where they felt that honour and patriotism required them to fight America, many would be very glad to do so." And if Pakistan collapsed, an "absolutely inevitable result would be the flow of large numbers of highly trained ex-soldiers, including explosive experts and engineers, to extremist groups." That is the primary threat he sees of leakage of fissile materials to Jihadi hands, a horrendous eventuality.

The Pakistani military have already been pushed to the edge by US attacks on Pakistani sovereignty. One factor is the drone attacks in Pakistan that Obama escalated immediately after the killing of bin Laden, rubbing salt in the wounds. But there is much more, including the demand that the Pakistani military cooperate in the US war against the Afghan Taliban, whom the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis, the military included, see as fighting a just war of resistance against an invading army, according to Lieven.

The bin Laden operation could have been the spark that set off a conflagration, with dire consequences, particularly if the invading force had been compelled to fight its way out, as was anticipated. Perhaps the assassination was perceived as an "act of vengeance," as Robertson concludes. Whatever the motive was, it could hardly have been security. As in the case of the "supreme international crime" in Iraq, the bin Laden assassination illustrates that security is often not a high priority for state action, contrary to received doctrine.

There is much more to say, but even the most obvious and elementary facts should provide us with a good deal to think about.

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+51 # maddave 2011-10-19 21:36
Obscene!

Goldman Sachs needs to be Nationalized and broken up.
 
 
+23 # AndreM5 2011-10-20 09:05
Goldman/Sachs ALREADY IS nationalized in one sense: it owns Congress so it completely runs monetary and financial policy.
 
 
+6 # robertsgt40 2011-10-21 08:10
Broken up...then prosecuted...th en get our money back
 
 
+21 # pernsey 2011-10-19 21:53
OMG!!! This is beyond obscene!!!!
 
 
+20 # DPM 2011-10-19 22:18
At least, in the Mafia, there was something of a "code" of loyalty. Otherwise, what's the difference?
 
 
+16 # krispykremeyum 2011-10-20 08:41
Yep...I respect the mafia more...at least they're up front about their intentions.
 
 
+23 # tsubow 2011-10-19 23:28
How many millions, billions,plus stock options does it take for one person to feel secure enough to say, "I have enough money and security?"
 
 
+4 # maddave 2011-10-21 07:08
There is no "enough". Money is an abstract concept by which ego-driven corporations and management keep score.
 
 
+27 # tomo 2011-10-20 00:00
Yesterday, I watched Timothy Geithner being grilled by what I take to have been the Senate Small Business Committee. First, Republican Olympia Snowe asked why the Secretary had done nothing about jobs. Geithner replied that he's very interested in jobs, but there is a lack of "demand" out there--but that if ever the time was ripe for jobs, he would certainly do a great deal. Then Democrat Maria Cantwell asked Geithner why it had taken a few days to bail out the major banks, but it has not been possible in nearly three years to provide much help to ordinary Americans. Geithner assured her he is very interested in ordinary Americans, but there is a lack of "demand" out there--but that he would certainly do a great deal for ordinary Americans when the opportunity presented itself. In short, Geithner was saying that, while it had been possible to bail out the banks by some very steep interventions in the free market, nothing similar could be done for ordinary Americans.
In short, the Treasury helps its friends, but only the "invisible hand" can help the rest of us. At that moment I realized Obama will probably be re-elected. Nobody has in our whole history helped CEO's more than he has. And Geithner, for all his apparent ineptitude, has actually done exactly what he and Obama have meant to do. Poor America!
 
 
+9 # pres 2011-10-20 00:23
Gee don't be so hard on them!
They are just living the American Dream -and somebody has to pay for it. :-)
 
 
+8 # Rita Walpole Ague 2011-10-20 01:15
Evil! G.S. and the other 1% Wall Street and military/indust rial/terrorism complex villainaires need any and all who worship and love a man/God named Jesus, to follow their Savior's example and boot the money grabbers out of temple. How best to boot out?

Maddave is right on! Boot 'em via Nationalizing and breading up.
 
 
+22 # Ralph Averill 2011-10-20 02:27
What's more maddening, Goldman-Sachs compensation is chicken feed compared to hedge fund salaries and bonuses, which can go to eight, nine, and, in the case of whatsisname Paulsen, ten figures. Over a billion dollars for creating nothing! Nobody is worth that kind of money. Not financiers, not CEO's, not athletes, or movie stars, or rock stars and we should have a tax system that prevents that kind of power in the hands of so few individuals.
 
 
+24 # JohnRussell2012 2011-10-20 04:54
WE MUST have a 21st Century revised edition of Glass-Steagel! BAN outright the programmed algorithm "skimming" /trading that Goldman et al do every day that merely commits thievery from the retail investor.

We MUST put in place a 0.05% transaction tax on ALL equity trades which would really put the brakes on the "skimming" thusly described. Elliott Spitzer confirmed what I have contended for years that about HALF of ALL daily trades taking place in the markets are of this sort.

Such shenanigans increases both volatility and risk, in particular for the retail investor who is not engaged in this practice which is exclusive to the Wall Street "set-up."
John Russell, Dade City, Fl
 
 
+30 # artful 2011-10-20 06:51
The SOB's should be in prison cells.
 
 
+17 # walt 2011-10-20 06:56
This is incredible to see these crooks hoarding the peoples' money for themselves. Bonuses are their priority as they continue to siphon off what they can. And when will we stop bringing Wall Streeters, especially from Goldman-Sachs, into the government and Cabinet. Bush's Sec. of the Treasury Paulsen was one and was on duty for the collapse. He's worth something like $700 million! When will we wake up and demand action? We are all angered as the NYPD arrests innocent protesters while these crooks go about their "business."
Occupy Wall Street and demand prosecutions!
 
 
+15 # MainStreetMentor 2011-10-20 07:58
 
 
+3 # usedtobesupermom 2011-10-20 10:12
Good idea! May I share your comment?
 
 
+1 # MainStreetMentor 2011-10-20 14:10
Absolutely!
 
 
+6 # MainStreetMentor 2011-10-20 08:13
 
 
0 # Martintfre 2011-10-20 08:25
Duh.

Ofcourse the execs stay fat and happy - their campaign contributions to Obama are investments that are paying off.

The bailouts that Senator Obama votes for, the TARP bills President Obama voted for.

The watering down of the AUDIT THE FED bill the democrats did...
no one should be surprised that FASCISM is live and well

Obama is the biggest corporate whore the world has ever seen
 
 
+8 # jwb110 2011-10-20 09:51
I think it is safe to say that the GOP/TP and Corporate America are moving us more and more to a Fascist System. Not all the boys at the top are safe from reprisals should this happen. The kind of hate and fear mongering that it takes to move a country to Fascism is going to move from scapegoat to scapegoat in order to harness a base. For the Conservative Christians the Pink Triangle is the call to arms. Once that reaches its' Final Solution what symbol and color comes next?
 
 
-1 # Martintfre 2011-10-20 12:28
//I think it is safe to say that the GOP/TP and Corporate America are moving us more and more to a Fascist System. //

Then you think wrongly.

As a Tea Party member I know for a fact that the government bail outs are unconstitutiona l and yes it is fascism and I an other TP members are opposed because companies do not have a right to funds extorted from the tax payers given to them by low politicians in high places.

As a citizen and as a tax payer It matters not if it was Bush or Obama who give away our money, it is wrong.
 
 
+5 # fredboy 2011-10-20 09:57
And derivatives continue as the nation's new alchemy...
 
 
+5 # Doubter 2011-10-20 10:22
Makes me wish I believed in Hell!
 
 
+3 # reiverpacific 2011-10-20 10:47
I may be naive but I wonder if these "Suits' are really happy?
They really aren't free people (I've known some in the corporate high-paid category described here) and they seem to me to be trapped in a system which doesn't allow them to be whatever they really might be. They wear a stylish uniform, behave in a proscribed way and follow orders just as sure as the military, and as likely as not live in gated non-communities.
They isolate themselves from any but their own corporate reality and all their material acquisitions seem to bring them little joy, as spoiled kids who take their "toys" for granted.
Sure, I am one of the "New Poor" but I do what I love for what little I make, have pride in my productivity and unique creativity and try to be a contributing part of my community, sharing the struggle for survival and even a little growth.
They may look down from on high from their architecturally appalling and space-gobbling glass towers, at the OWS masses but I wonder if there isn't just a trace of envy in what they see; fellowship, mutual aid and support forming an irresistible force, growing and shaking their very foundations?
"Ah make the most of what we yet may spend,
Before we too into the dust descend,
Dust into Dust and under Dust to lie,
Sans Wine, sans Song, sans Singer, and -sans End!
Omar Kayyam.
 
 
+3 # Activista 2011-10-20 11:55
I agree - these people are NOT free - not happy. All they know is Money Culture.
People genes/nature is very different - read work of E. J. Wilson.
 
 
+4 # Miguel Grande 2011-10-21 07:43
In 1892 the Banksters put their plan to paper,

http://www.heyokamagazine.com/heyoka_magazine.27.bankersmanifesto.htm

99%
TOO BIG TO FAIL!!
 

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