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Insulting Muslims, contrasted with the “N” word and shouting Vicious “P” at a Police Officer's funeral

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Written by Richard Kane   
Friday, 28 September 2012 06:48
Dealing with hate speech varies throughout history. In old England kids used to look at a copper penny while near a cop and hurl the word “Copper” at the penny.

The “N” word, has been in most of the world censured out of use, as has belittling the Holocaust. Sometimes insult and action get tied together Charles Manson was arrested when there was no Capital Punishment in the US and likely would be out on probation by now if his only crime was ordering several deaths. Writing the “P” word in the victims' blood to try to create a worldwide race war he called “Helter Skelter” is the reason his bail is always turned down. Action and words are considered so closely tied together that computer created child-porn where no real children are involved is illegal. Why has no one ever claimed that desecrating a corpse is free speech?

Charles Manson's clan using writing in blood to speak in favor of worldwide Helter Skelter is not unlike the Danish Publication whose cartoons insulted Islam for the sole purpose of trying to get other Danes to stop welcoming refugees from Muslim lands. The purpose of the recent hate Islam film trailer that got a US ambassador killed (or more likely was at the last second changed as the reason) was to give President Obama a Jimmy Carter ending expecting trouble overseas would translate into votes for Romney.

A very few people brag about hurling the insult “fatso” at a heavy person, but many see those who purposely upset Muslims as being heroic, defending free speech, and standing up for religious liberty. Even if you believe Islam is evil, try going up to a mother smoking holding her baby and scream you are killing that child with smoke, you child abuser, you piece of “S”, you dirty “S”. Imagine this world being different enough that, that insulter would be considered a hero standing up for a cleaner world and healthier human beings, and the victim’s reaction proof that she is a bad mother. Why is an unreasonable reaction by a small percentage of Muslims considered to mean there is something wrong with Islam, not the hurler of hate?

Al Qaeda and the right-wing Norwegian bigot, Anders Breivik,who massacred a youth camp are on the same side of the fence when it comes to their belief in their culture not being watered down with outside values. The 9/11 peace mosque where people of all faiths could worship together in New York City is the opposite of the world Anders Breivik and al Qaeda want. Pamela Geller so far successfully fought to stop the freedom of speech mosque, and successfully helped raise money to sponsor a hate trailer to make Muslims more unwelcomed in the west, http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/16/1132429/--Pamela-Geller-s-Blog-Solicited-Funds-For-anti-Muhammad-Movie
Thus, one doesn't have the freedom of speech to build a peace mosque but does have the freedom to sponsor or more accurately bait riots and cause trouble for more moderate Muslims.

I'm against Capital Punishment. When American Flag Burning was a crime in the US, some burned red, white and blue cloth to see how far they could go. Laws outlawing the desecration of Islam would have to decide whether a man's shadow on a canvas with a suggestive title was a crime. The main problem isn't the lack of punishment, but the belief of more than a few, that those who spout out anti-Islam hate are standing up for religious freedom and defending the world from barbarism, as if those who shout out “N” and “P” are being heroic and brave.

I haven't heard lately of anyone standing on a ledge and some in the crowd below shouting “jump” at them. People who shout “jump” should be arrested for trying to incite a catastrophe, and Charles Manson should be retried for trying to turn the world into Helter Skelter,

By Richard Kane
 

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0 # RICHARDKANEpa 2012-09-29 19:03
Peace site discussion,
http://www.internationalpeaceandconflict.org/profiles/blogs/the-n-word-holocaust-belittling-and-muslim-reactions-to-anti#.UGeZp5E8CCl


Non-traditional peace efforts * *


Watch Snack Man break up a fight,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/nyc-subway-fight-snack-eating-m...

Dog breaking up a fight between two cats
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=+Stereotype-hating+dogs+break+up+a+f...

Monkeys learning to avoid fights,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2092124/Did-bonobos-actua...

Peace making tips from non peace sites,
http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feature/bar-fights-031609
http://www.wikihow.com/Stop-a-Fight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBVa7yyBYZc

Its my guess that setting a future end the war date or even a few hours away cease fire date only encourages more fighting, I couldn't Google anything recent to back up this hunch of mine,
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18241147
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_with_Germany



http://www.internationalpeaceandconflict.org/profiles/blogs/non-traditional-peace-efforts#.UGeXV5E8CCk
 
 
0 # RICHARDKANEpa 2012-09-29 19:59
Try,Try Again, CORRECTED LINKS

Watch Snack Man break up a fight,
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/10/nyc-subway-fight-snack-eating-man-breaks-up-fight-video_n_1415031.html

Dog breaking up a fight between two cats
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=+Stereotype-hating+dogs+break+up+a+fight+between+two+cats&view=detail&mid=78928B120553EA6B986078928B120553EA6B9860&first=0

Monkeys learning to avoid fights,
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2092124/Did-bonobos-actually-tame-Scientists-African-apes-evolved-gentler-creatures.html

Peace making tips from non peace sites,
http://www.esquire.com/the-side/feature/bar-fights-031609
http://www.wikihow.com/Stop-a-Fight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBVa7yyBYZc

Its my guess that setting a future end the war date or even a few hours away cease fire date only encourages more fighting, I couldn't Google anything recent to back up this hunch of mine,
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/18241147
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armistice_with_Germany
 
 
0 # HJ7 2012-09-30 17:04
The whole point about free speech concerning religion is thzt people need to be free to debate the religious zealots who wish to impose their view of reality and law on all of us. Any sect that seeks to do that should be fought in the courts and the arena of oublic opinion.

I am surprised to find that some wish to cave in to the threats of murder hurled at those who dare to question the zealots beliefs. How many more writers, publishersm, artists and film producers have to be nurdered before the world opens it's eyes to the threat.

I happen to find the views of a certain Baptist sect in Westboro obscene but that doesn't mean I want the pastor dead. I rather see him debated and then ignored.
 
 
0 # HJ7 2012-09-30 17:18
Mr.Kane posted "
I haven't heard lately of anyone standing on a ledge and some in the crowd below shouting “jump” at them."

I read that members of the occupy Wall Street brigade were heard to
say just that while looking up at the skyscrapers in lower Manhattan.
 
 
0 # RICHARDKANEpa 2012-10-01 04:43
100 non existent Jewish donors, the Coptic Christians in Egypt who donated to “Desert Warrior” a film on Coptic Christians being discriminated against by Muslims were stated as sponsoring the jumbled redubed voice over remake insult against Islam, to be put in harms way.
 
 
0 # RICHARDKANEpa 2012-10-01 10:52
A somewhat similar article with different points,

http://open.salon.com/blog/naqibs_daughter/2012/09/20/do_muslims_not_understand_free_speech_hate_film_furor_1
 
 
0 # RICHARDKANEpa 2012-10-01 14:03
Charles Manson had his followers write in their victims' blood “Pig” to try to ferment a worldwide race war or Helter Skelter. The Danish publication that angered Muslims wanted to bait Muslims to be unwelcome in Denmark, only after several months delay when it was declared not to be a hate crime did the riots start. The purpose of the anti-Muslim film trailer in the US wasn't stated, but most experts believe it was to make Obama look weak the way the Iranian hostage crisis made President Carter look weak and lose his reelection bid.

One way Republicans are trying to win the election for Romney is to keep the Libertarians off the ballot with intense effort. One thing they didn't do is steal Libertarian ballot petitions. Though actually a few could have been stolen. One thing a group wanting Romney could have done is to try to create traffic jams to prevent the Libertarians from turning their ballot petitions in on time. If they were as insensitive to deaths in the US as the hate film producer was to deaths in the Muslim World they could have on strategist highway ramps hire earpluged porn stars in front of bright lights to have sex to cause traffic accidents to jam up the highway and prevent the Libertarians or Constitutional Party in Virginia from getting ballot status thus throwing Virginia to Romney

Continued at,
http://www.phillyimc.org/en/insulting-muslims-contrasted-n-word-or-shouting-vicious-p-police-officers-funeral#comment-73267
 
 
0 # RICHARDKANEpa 2012-10-10 12:23
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/330-131/13884-14-year-old-peace-prize-winner-shot-by-taliban-in-critical-condition#comment-231174

Showing one's finger in road rage is not usually illegal. But if one went around systimaitally cutting people off then showing ones finger, to cause a trafic blockage in response to prevent the Libertarians from turning their petitions in on thime then what?
 
 
+1 # Citizen Mike 2012-10-18 11:09
Hate speech is political speech and as such is protected by the First Amendment, no matter how much we might oppose it. The remedy is more speech, not less, making opposition known.

Stirring up ethnic hatred is a well-establishe d method of creating political loyalty and nationalist unity. It has been used in this way by the Germans, the Israelis, and here in the US against Indians and Catholics in the past. It supported genocide for the "winning of the west," and opposed the presidential campaign of Al Smith. More recently, it has been used against Moslems and Hispanics here by the Republicans.
 
 
0 # RICHARDKANEpa 2012-10-18 11:48
Updated information. We are in a chain reaction a chain of tit for tat hate. Fortunately Ambassador Steven's relatives refuse to join the hate and actually started a peace in the middle east fund. Without the relatives cooling input Romney would be closer to convincing the electorate that being that we are not in a war between civilizations means that Obama is a coward.


http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/22-22/14022-ambassador-stevens-is-a-hero-four-heroes-who-ended-a-helter-skelter-chain
 
 
0 # RICHARDKANEpa 2012-10-18 11:57
Updated information. We are in a chain reaction, a chain of tit for tat hate. Fortunately Ambassador Steven's relatives refuse to join the hate and actually started a peace in the middle east fund. Without the relatives cooling input Romney would be closer to convincing the electorate that being that we are not in a war between civilizations means that Obama is a coward. Thank you Christopher Stevens for your service to this country and our world



http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/22-22/14022-ambassador-stevens-is-a-hero-four-heroes-who-ended-a-helter-skelter-chain
 

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