Gibson writes: "Driving a big piece of metal and glass at high speeds should rightly be regulated to ensure appropriate safety for everyone on the road. Owning a gun should require a similar level of responsibility."
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Regulate Guns Like Cars
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like driving cars. And as a driver, I have no problem registering my car in each new state I move to, keeping my insurance up-to-date, having regular required inspections and submitting to a driver's test to get my driver's license. Driving a big piece of metal and glass at high speeds should rightly be a big responsibility that folks should take seriously, that should be regulated to ensure appropriate safety for everyone on the road. Owning a gun should require a similar level of responsibility.
As a native Southerner, I like shooting guns. I shot my first gun at Camp McKee, a Boy Scout camp, when I was 12. One of my favorite places to go while living in Houston was the Top Gun shooting range, where it was easy to spend a lot of money on renting out a shooting gallery, buying several boxes of ammunition, and shooting the day away with friends. Both cars and guns are responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans every year. Owning and using either one should require strict regulations.
I once had a Smith & Wesson .40 caliber pistol that I named Joe, after a friend of mine who served in Korea. I bought Joe at a gun show in Mississippi, along with several boxes of ammunition, for approximately $300, which I paid in cash. The gun merchant asked for my driver's license, made a phone call, and I walked out with a weapon less than 15 minutes after walking in. I could have just as easily dreamed up a plan to murder a large group of people that morning, bought a gun that afternoon, and massacred dozens by nightfall.
Like any driver, before even getting my driver's license, I had to take a written test to get a learner's permit. This meant I could drive a car, but only with a licensed driver in the car with me. Then, after 6 months of waiting, I could take an actual driver's test with a police officer in my passenger seat, and only become a licensed driver if I drove, parallel parked, and did a turnabout absolutely flawlessly. And if I ever moved to a new state, I would have to get a new driver's license within 30 days of relocating, keep my license and registration up-to-date, get yearly inspections, and have liability insurance for my car. The same should be done with guns.
Anyone who wants to own a gun should likewise take a written test on gun safety, proper means of carrying, loading and unloading, and turning the safety on and off to get a gun owner's permit, though actually shooting it must be done with a licensed gun owner. After an appropriate waiting period, gun owners should take an actual test involving everything from loading and unloading to proper storage, even shooting proficiency. And each gun should be registered in each state it travels to, each gun owner should submit to an annual inspection for their weapon, and each gun purchase should come with mandatory liability insurance. Also, the assault weapons ban should be reinstated, because nobody who isn't in the military or on the police force should ever need an AK-47 or an AR-15, not to hunt deer or protect their families.
Of course, gun lobbyists would likely argue that such regulation is an infringement on our 2nd Amendment rights. I would ask gun lobbyists if their inability to buy an M1A1 Abrams tank is an infringement on their 2nd Amendment rights. Car crashes and guns are responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans every year, and both should be regulated appropriately.
I'm not arguing that nobody should be able to own a gun. I'm simply arguing that if you want to operate a device that can take lives with the movement of an index finger, you should be willing to submit to the same regulations as you would by operating a device that can take lives with the turn of a steering wheel.
Carl Gibson, 25, is co-founder of US Uncut, a nationwide creative direct-action movement that mobilized tens of thousands of activists against corporate tax avoidance and budget cuts in the months leading up to the Occupy Wall Street movement. Carl and other US Uncut activists are featured in the documentary "We're Not Broke," which premiered at the 2012 Sundance Film Festival. He currently lives in Old Lyme, Connecticut. You can contact Carl at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , and listen to his online radio talk show, Swag The Dog, at blogtalkradio.com/swag-the-dog.
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Can you imagine how hard it must be to get a gun license??!!!
I have no objection to anyone who wants to purchase a gun to read a book and take a course in gun safety... perhaps even show photos of people who died from a gunshot wound, like many Motor Vehicle departments have on the walls of accidents that were fatal.
In colorade applications for guns spiraled after the theatre shooting! To look at the dazed photo of the "alleged" shooter makes ome wonder just what was really going on! A Manchurian Candidate?
But Gibsons plan just isn't workable, it isn't even a beginning of a plan that could be made to work!
and as someone above said assult weapons have no place in our police departments!
The police kill more then enough people every year by accident without having these type of weapons! I also agree they do not belong in society...howev er even banning them will not make them unavailable, there is a strong black market where anyone who wants a weapon can redily obtain it!
So to remove them from society will mean that the criminals will still get them but we won't have access to them...I believe we have to be just as artmed as the criminal element...
So to remove them from society will mean that the criminals will still get them but we won't have access to them...I believe we have to be just as artmed as the criminal element...
And yet, other countries do not have that problem........ ....why is that. I'm sure there are criminals living in those countries so it can't be the culture.
But on the other hand someone who takes the time to make a weapon, could have lots of reasons...a murder and no link to weapon, entering into contest, new prototype.
Problem with killing isn't weapons. If you want to kill or commit suicide ...you will.
Problem is letting Gun Manufacturers continue to make weapons not necessary to the People. Biggest Problem is the Phony NRA who is interested in Salaries, Perks and their Celebrity Status everytime Guns are used for wrong reasons.
I never see them out there offering help to someone who had to kill someone in order to live. I never see them out there doing fundraisers for the Victims of Murder, whether drive by or this past Showdown by Joker.
No NRA is only around to hype people up against any candidate but their kin.
You will never remove weapons from society or you would all be in wheelchairs with amputations.
I also believe if you have nothing to hide why not fingerprint to match.
ID's are stolen, phonied up so that doesnot give every good person a gun. Someone steals my id, then purchases a gun, that is scary as I am not looking to buy gun or ammo. So the background says yep that person could own Fort Dix go ahead...but it isn't me at all.
Believe we need more stringent way to keep guns purchased on books...in right hands
Therefore they CAN'T be regulated like cars. States have no lawful authority to do so.
And even if they did, I would oppose the idea because I won't allow some government bureaucrat decide whether I can defend myself.
So this is a silly idea on at least two levels:
(1) The "who decides?" issue... Americans won't stand for some government bureaucrat deciding who has a "right" to defend themselves. And if they tried it, there is very little doubt that some woman who has a stalking ex will get murdered because she could not obtain a gun for self-defense, and the public outcry would just get the law changed back again.
(2) It is unworkable, because (again, as SCOTUS recently ruled) states and municipalities do not have the authority to regulate them in that manner.
The second amendment reads: “A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
Key words: WELL REGULATED, which is what Gibson is suggesting is needed. Those words seem to have been totally overlooked in the SCOTUS decision; not the first time they've sold the best interests of the people to the highest bidder.
8 of ten times they are going to get me killed.
"no guns in this household" let me know how it works for you!
Their actual meaning is hardly debatable. It is made crystal clear in other historical documents, including the debates surrounding ratification.
"A well-regulated militia" (that is to say, a standing army, you got that part right)...
"being necessary to the security of a free state," (all fine so far... government must maintain an army)...
But HERE is the disconnect:
"the right of THE PEOPLE to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." [emphasis mine]
As Constitutional scholars have often pointed out, THE PEOPLE has a specific meaning in the Bill of Rights. It occurs in many places, and there is no reason to interpret it differently here than in all of those other places.
See... they were terrified of a "standing army". They felt it was the biggest threat to a free country. (As evidence: how many military coups have happened around the world just in our lifetime?)
So THE PEOPLE have the right to bear arms, BECAUSE a standing army is necessary, and THE PEOPLE must be able to FIGHT OFF that army -- and their government -- if necessary.
The militia is not a standing army. The militia is the able-bodied male populace between the ages of 18 and 45. That's quite clear. The reason they need the militia is to avoid a standing army.
That is coming soon enough.
Guns are not the Problem...peopl e are.
Same is true of Dogs even Wolves...there are no bad animals...only bad people.
Rocks are weapons, bottles of whiskey so if they were on any level to start taking right to have gun away than they would have to round up anything that could make a point, anything that could be thrown. Again if you ever look at a group of people in a nice neighborhood, everyone goes there way says hi ho...but then some cretin decides to start talking to single parents, seniors and scare them into thinking they need a Neighborhood Watch. People start shivering in their boots agree. But it wasn't necessary, now the Bully's take over and they are worse than any situation one ever had.
Dominance...man needs control, then he knows not what to do with it.
And that's precisely why we should not let them dominate us.
I pointed out issue (1) above, because it's happened before. Not on the Federal level, but certainly at the State level.
And (2) is just a fact. What was it, 2 years ago now? SCOTUS ruled that the gun regulations in D.C. were unconstitutiona l because they infringed on citizens' individual constitutional rights.
These are not debate points. They are facts.
But again... it amuses me to no end to see people vote me down when I point out facts. It clearly shows the quality of much of the clientele.
For example, in the recent baseball/steroi ds scandal, only one person told the truth, Jose Canseco. For this, he was reviled, despised, and threatened. True sometimes he did behave like a jerk, personally, and professionally. But in this, he told the truth.
You'll get the same reward because a person's most precious possessions are his illusions. Before he surrenders those, he'll give up his property, money, and even his family.
Based on the thoughts above, I do have an image of guns w/ license plates on them, so we could "Get that license number!" just as well with guns as with cars.
And, FWIW, enough with all this concealed carry stuff- if you're nutty enough to think you need a gun with you all the time, I want it out in the open on your hip, so I'll know you're a nut case. And it would be good for business- think of all the new fashion statements open carry would require- pretty pink holsters for women, belly holsters for guys too fat to reach their guns any other way, pistols with 12 inch barrels for insecure guys. Christians could have services to bless the pistols and pray that they only be used in God's work. And gun insurance! A whole new line of job creation- this could cure The Great Recession!
Next, no gun law will stop criminals and "Nut cases" from obtaining weapons. Here in Brazil, it is almost impossible for private citizens to won firearms. Yet, the criminals often have better weapons than the police. Even the most restrictive gun laws are useless with criminals and wackos.
Try reading my essay at: http://slrman.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/guns-or-no-guns/
FYI, guns do have a "license plate" it's called a serial number and those can be recovered even after they have been attempted to be obliterated.
So, James, ever tried reading a serial number while somebody's shooting at you? As far as "not seeing the issue like I do" it's not so much how you see the issue as how you see the world. I don't know much about Brazil, but where I live, in the US, life is pretty safe and having a gun doesn't make you or anyone else safer. If you have a gun in your home, people in the home are more likely to die from misuse of that gun than at the hands of an intruder.
Sounds like we agree that "no law will stop criminals and nut cases from getting guns," although I'm pretty sure restricting availability of assault weapons and large capacity magazines would reduce the death rate. But, mainly, I think we need to do a better job of managing idiots and nut cases- that's a very difficult task, but I think we're getting a bit better at it, and I think proposals like Gibson's could help, just by making the parallels between dangerous objects obvious.
For those who want a gun because they don't trust their government, I don't think the answer is more guns- it's more civic involvement.
http://slrman.wordpress.com/2010/10/22/guns-or-no-guns/
James, I read your essay. I agree w/ most of it.
Exactly how will civic involvement help? I'm not disagreeing, I just don;t see how that will help.
I do not believe the average junkie, deepset trauma or perhaps overload in brain should have weapons, they are the worst and they are what we are seeing on the news daily. Some Junkie needing drugs/alcohol or both, Parent who lost child in a killing or other problem, and genius or someone who lost everything.
these people need Support, HealthCare not weapons or ammo.
Drug Cartels unless you are involved with them are not shooting up movie theaters here or driving in neighborhoods.. ..Neighborhood violence is a bunch of heehaws trying to prove who got more or some other drivel of the hour *control), Most Mafia, Cartels do not want publicity except within the circle.
This new crap going on is Bullies trying to take control of Government and have it all. Again you, and here in USA people should take a look at those areas who took back control get it working for you.
Guns like knives are just a means...wait til the Junkies have bombs...
Sounds a bit like what we do in Australia re guns. Other that a few gun enthusiasts few complain. We do not want a repeat of Port Aurthur.
Remember that 1% of the population is potentially likely to develop an mental illness, and that smoking pot will increase the rate and likelihood of those at risk from developing psychosis. The Chinese found that out about 1200 or more years ago and so culturally suppressed its recreational use. So we need to keep any tools that magnify the potential to cause disruption to a minimum. Just as we do not encourage drink/driving. Too dangerous for all concerned.
When have you heard of someone high on pot getting into a fight and busting up a bar? WHen have you heard of a pot smoker committing burglary, assault, or murder to obtain money for weed?
There are already laws about driving or operating machinery when impaired with legal or illegal substances. IN any case, the legalization of marijuana has nothing to do with the article.
There has been in this part of the world considerable discussion about that. It just increases the likelihood and intensity of schizophrenia in persons (1% of the population) who are susceptible. Hence more mental illness. Met too many paranoid schizophrenics who blew their brains on pot.
We are talking about good mental health systems here. Guns and poor metal health is not a good mix.
Afraid Normal has proof that your statement is not true.
If the person already had psych problems that adding anything does accelerate the
use of anything. they would possibly get high and have sides around nail polish.
Too many studies on MJ use for Medical Reasons that would blow that out. I also will say that as your impulses, eyesight etc deteriorates so will it on Drug or alcohol. I do know from people I met since I do support of people with diseases, that chemicals in greenhouses are used more to grow Pot to have stronger affects, grow quicker...there fore the side affects are from the fertilizers etc.
Those growing with natural circumstances as it should be if legalized, the THC quality is according to seeds, cross culture. I would love to grow and learn that but alas we are still in the Republicans can only Make Money on Drugs Age
But If you are smoking an ounce a day and driving perhaps you should drive before. I am more afraid of drunk drivers, kid drivers and Cell Phone aholes.
All things have consequences. Finding pure O Good Luck
I have seen more assholes out with guns in hunting season or at ranges that are drinking as I do know drive drunk.
I do not see the person using MJ for pain out on ranges, people using that are dying in hospices shooting. Hippies were more advocates of Love. Corporate Growers are not in the same category.
But I know people in their seventies and eighties that have smoked for rec and now medical reasons, they are probably the saner of the lot, They love children, animals, earth. Few of them have guns.
http://readersupportednews.org/news-section2/335-156/12554-58-murders-a-year-by-firearms-in-britain-8775-in-us#comment-202371
In the past the shrillest most stanch advocates on both sides dominated the debate when it came to hot button issues. Something new is happening I wonder where it will all lead.
I am not that naive!
Then we have people who do not care about other Humans at all, no matter how old, what color.
You didn't think these Clowns who promote guns and killing aren't these newage Christians. If it was up to some Churches you could probably come to service with weapons of . Got to love Democracy and all the s__t that comes with it... Lately seems to be more compost that caring humans
(1) Owning a gun is a constitutional right. Owning a car is not.
(2) The "mentally ill" drive cars. In some states they are not supposed to, but no one enforces the law. Yet an automobile is just as much a lethal weapon as is a firearm.
The "mentally ill" are to present-day America what the African-America ns were to America 100 years ago.
I wrote it some years ago, but it's the same type of thinking.
Excellent argument.
Many of THEM are quick to justify putting a 10 year old behind the wheel of their car to experience 'growing up'. Often THEY cannot admit income that is 'off the books' and share in the financing of public support policies in which they take part (from hospital emergency rooms to social security and disability income). I suspect analyses of drunk driving, drug addiction and distribution, spousal and child abuse, tax avoidance, racial and religious intolerance and paranoia about 'government' would correlate heavily.
Because of my humanitarian inclination and progressive bent, my own personal bases would lead me to expect THEIR fears and distrust of 'society' or 'intellectuals' making decisions about policies and priorities. Respect for 'authority' and wealth, as with serfs' and peasants' submission to the will of Knights and Kings, may keep us in the dark - subject to a declining natural environment and exploitation by the 1%.
Perhaps the NRA should offer voluntary registration, licensing, training, etc. allowing reasonable citizens to accept responsibility over 'freedom' from it. Membership increases in NRA might change the dynamic of the organization's philosophy.
If everyone just said no more dues...than perhaps they could still exist on ads, guns, ammo but one must bring reason to those by taking away their money.
NRA are a money controlled, egotistical Corporation who laughs at us all. Stopped membership in family and friends when ReaGun took Office and Charltan Heston thought God Was NRA
Considering Aurora, Virginia Tech, Columbine, Tuscon (Gabby Giffords), and widespread mayhem on American streets, politicians should pass sensible gun control laws.
Ban high-capacity magazines.
Ban assault weapons.
End the gun show loophole.
Track large transactions involving explosives, ammunition, or firearms.
Improved background checks might keep disturbed individuals from acquiring or possessing such weapons.
Sign the petition to urge Congress to pass sensible gun legislation at
http://www.seconnecticut.com/guns.htm
Since Driving is a privilge cars should be better regulated ya think?
here in America more people are killed by cars then by guns!
everything goes back to which is the worst offender...Cars win!
Most people would go to dealership and sign forms that they do not intend to use their vehicle as a weapon, wouldn't they?
What would you do to Manufacturers of Paints, Thinners, Fertilizers etc stop them from selling their products, lose more jobs but continue funding the NRA and Gun Corporations Please
People are the Offenders everything else is the apparatus we use
Argument about this is good keeps us thinking but no one save myself has brought up phony id. Or having those guns no one knows about, no registration than they are stolen....
How about Guns in Lock Up...do not get melted down in many cases file off reg numbers and dupe them on someone they want.
EACH of those shootings, including the mass shooting in Killeen Texas, although possibly not Tucson, I'd have to look that one up... but most all school shootings and nearly all mass shootings, AND the vast majority of handgun murders in the U.S. every year, all have one thing in common:
They all took place either in an area where it was ALREADY ILLEGAL to have a gun, or it was ALREADY ILLEGAL for them to have a gun for one reason or another (like prior felony convictions), or the gun was purchased illegally in the first place.
Dude... these numbers do nothing but PROVE that more laws won't accomplish anything.
Would you go willingly to be imprisoned indefinately when you knew you had done nothing wrong?
On your second, of course I would not, but the way to fight such an unjust action by a government, any government is not with a weapon. In a fire fight between an armed civilian and organized authority, who do you think is going to win. There are other more rational and productive ways to fight corruption and injustice. As soon as triggers are pulled, rationality goes out the window.
Most U.S. soldiers won't fight civilians. They took an oath to uphold the Constitution, not the current government.
Of the few that are left, you still have a civilian population that is massively more armed than any army you could drum up. You could let the entire U.S. military loose in the United States (which could never happen; see above) and they would still be vastly outgunned. Sure... they have more powerful, high-tech weaponry. What would that accomplish? They still (as Iraq and Afghanistan clearly demonstrated) have to be human sometimes. And that weakness would be found.
Give that some thought because that is the choice...either surrender to this government under those circumstances or tell me what other plan you would have to defend yourself without a gun over false charges and to effectuate your release…Remembe r there will be no trial by a jury of your peers!!!
Who is going to sign up the criminals, administer them tests, issue licenses etc? Gibson? Nah.
Over 90% of crimes using guns involve illegally owned weapons. If all these recommendations were put into effect decent, law abiding citizens would be impacted & the criminals ignored.
Leave it to liberals to dream up a solution to reducing crimes using guns by ignoring the criminals' weapons & going after those of law abiding citizens.
However there is No way! All regulations will affect law abiding citizens... Guns will always be available for the criminal, and if not a gun some other lethel item...
also don't forget the Theatre shooter appears to have been either insane, or on some drugs or? He was not a criminal before he fired into the theatre!
Plenty of soldiers have brought back grenades so they are here and in some cases in hands of people who should be allowed to have a car no less a weapon
I saw too many in my lifetime, most were in hands of people who brought them back. I was amazed at those who killed themselves they did not use them, instead they ate the bullet.
I just thought what if the kid, what if the family dog got a hold of...Sure glad they didn't. Wars do funny things to people need to bring back weaponry makes no sense.
But if I was thinking I am going to be attacked hell, I want more than a rifle so let us all go and get some tanks, missiles. Become a Militia.
If you want one just ask your friendly FBI Agent...I'm sure he will be helpful!
You simply have to fill out the proper paperwork and pay a $200 tax for each Class III firearm (grenades are Class III firearms).
There is a big Class III store in the state just next door. You can go there, fill out your Federal form, and walk out with a LEGALLY OWNED hand grenade.
No, I am not joking.
But this just illustrates the point: PEOPLE DON'T COMMIT CRIMES WITH LEGALLY OWNED FIREARMS ANYWAY.
It's extremely rare. And a new law would make not a bit of difference.
In the Columbine shooting the perps were too young to have guns. Yet they were able to steal unsecured guns from family members and have a young adult buy one for them. There are laws requiring securing guns and against the straw purchase of guns. yet no one was prosecuted.
In the Aurora shootings I suspect the perp has a history of mental problems that was suppressed by the family , or the school. Or perhaps not entered in the database as in the first two examples. Colorado closed the gun show loophole after Columbine.
We have good laws now let's enforce them.
Fingerprinting is nice to weed out felons and their immediate family but how do you fingerprint the brain.
Gun Shop owners are in business to sell guns. Ammo same. My biggest anger is Internet Sales to anyone. His apartment was a booby trap. Personally, who ever delivered those boxes to fill up that apartment I believe they should have wondered why so many firearms to one apartment. This was not some Bush or Cheney Ranch. I believe I would have wondered and perhaps raised my eyebrow after ten boxes. I see no mention of this either.
No more Guns Sold or Ammo at Gun Shows.
Want a Gun come talk to me at, give them a card. Keep Gun Shows for just that, showing weapons, giving information, seminars. But no gun sales. Keep business in Shops.
Sales of Guns must be done by someone 21 years of age who has a License to Sell Gun, Has had Classes/Certifi cation of how to do background checks. Competent People who understand Responsibility. I met a lot of shysters that would sell anything to anybody and these were Country Boys not some city slicker who knows someone, who knows someone.
Some Bumpkin whose friend died, wife needs some cash.
Finger Prints...if you have nothing to hide..than let's do a real background check. Anyone can get Phony Id. Obviously have. Not going to stop people from killing but would certainly make it harder to obtain weapons legally?
Everyone knows someone who knows someone, somewhere that lives somewhere, that could get something if you want something for a Price. Nough said...Cops, Gangs, a bum looking thru a dumpster.
Alcohol, keys to a car, please drive them home or say more prayers. Asleep at the Wheel...ooops. Heart Attack/Stroke. All vehicles are Weapons some more volatile than others...from a Wegmans truck to Nuclear Waste Truck. The can both kill
People with an attitude against something, somebody.
Brain is a hard drive. We pack so much into it, we are constantly getting so much information. We have daily stress from jobs or lack of, kids, parents, school, work, house, bills. We have illness, we are going to die. We read articles that say who cares, the world should end, USA is going to be worse.
Girlfriend dumps you, boyfriend strays, spouse dies, kid dies One day our brain is no longer ours, we think we have control but we are losing that battle so if we have no control...we fixate. Some suicide, figure out how to. Others due to issues we may never know..decide if We are all goin to die than I am going to start it.
Perhaps just bad time, no support, no one understands, world is going to hell, Someone gets you interested in guns, weapons, you do not know when it began or where it ended.
Not Liberal, Nor Conservative, not boy nor girl, not Christian nor Muslim. Just Human Being who decides to act out that Dream, Fantasy Vengeance. It does not matter how many. Does not matter what used. Lives were taken. Human did it. We do it every day somewhere.
When one wants to drive a bus one needs a special drivers license and another license to drive a big truck. Some people want to ban the huge three section trucks. You article would me more consistent if you asked for a special license for automatics not banning them.
Others please join me in trying to continue reasonable dialogue,
http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/419-gun-control-/12803-amazingly-good-news-joker-wanted-to-kill-hundreds-but-only-killed-15
http://www.youngphillypolitics.com/finally_common_ground_gun_control_libertarian_vp
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