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Gibson writes: "This cultural rot will continue, and we'll continue to see incidents like Steubenville happen on a regular basis, until men become allies, embrace feminism not as a pejorative label but as something to be proud of, and collectively speak out against patriarchy. Let's demand a cultural evolution, and let Steubenville be the first step."

Domestic violence and sexual assault are issues often ignored - or even silenced. (photo: istock)
Domestic violence and sexual assault are issues often ignored - or even silenced. (photo: istock)


Patriarchy Dominates Media's Steubenville Coverage

By Carl Gibson, Reader Supported News

19 March 13

 

n an eerie bit of foreshadowing, a 2011 skit from The Onion's "Sportsdome" on Comedy Central predicted the Steubenville rape story almost to a T. In the satirical sports segment, done with emotional background music, reporters document the story of a student athlete who scored a record amount of points, "overcoming" the fact that he had raped someone the night before. The framing of the news segment is not about the irreparable damage to the victim, but how the young man courageously moved beyond four allegations of sexual assault to become a top scholar and athlete.

"It felt good to show people that I'm not just a rapist, I'm a basketball player first," the athlete says.

Fast-forward to August 11th, 2012, when two high school football players in Steubenville, Ohio, carried a teenage girl around to a series of parties, took pictures of themselves raping her in various settings, then bragged about their crime on social media. The hormone-driven boys were especially hyped up after a win, when rapist and quarterback Trent Mays tweeted post-victory, "Party at jake howarths!!!! Huge party!!! Banger!!!!" The day after, he tweeted, "Some of these 'nice dudes' need ta shut the hell up." The following day Mays tweeted, "Ya see, what had happened was..." followed by "Nothing even happened ppl seriously need to shut up."

Despite attempts by the football-proud community to cover up the story, a cell of the hacker collective Anonymous called "KnightSec" unleashed Operation Roll Red Roll, leaking a 12-minute video of the rapists and their friends laughing about their crime, even underscoring the fact that it was a rape as they drunkenly laughed about the unconscious teenager being unable to wake up despite a "wang in the butthole." Before Anonymous seized the twitter account of Michael Nodianos, the boy talking in the video, they took a screenshot of him commenting on a picture of the unconscious rape victim, saying, "Song of the night is definitely Rape Me by Nirvana."

On March 12th, in the midst of the trial, Good Morning America ran a segment called "Steubenville Rape Case: What You Haven't Heard" that focused entirely on the perspective of the rapists, coming from a storied high school football team, who just happened to rape someone after partying too hard. Their only passing mentions of the victim were intertwined with either how much she was coming on to her rapist at the first party, or how drunk she was as the night went on, and even how gentlemanly her rapist had been when he chivalrously gave his rape victim his coat so she wouldn't get cold. From the story:

"Several witnesses said that once outside, the girl needed to stop in the street because she was sick again. 'She throws up on her blouse and takes her blouse off,' Ma'lik said. 'And then she asked for something to drink and I gave her my jacket to cover her up.'"

The Good Morning America story capped their account of the lovable, complex, human rapists with a lamenting sentence about how a conviction would ensure "almost certain demise of their dreams of playing football."

And of course, after the verdict was read, CNN infamously framed their sensationalized coverage with video of the teen rapists crying as they apologized for their crimes, and commentary from two talking heads about how the boys' lives will never be the same, and how they'll have the albatross of being labeled as a sex offender for the rest of their lives. CNN pundits had nothing to offer on how being gang-raped while unconscious will undoubtedly scar the 16 year-old victim for life, or how nights like that August 11th in Steubenville happen every day across America, to high school girls, college girls, and adult women alike. The entire sad story of Steubenville reeks of patriarchal culture.

It's the same culture that tells young men that to be validated by your peers, you have to suppress any feelings toward women that involve treating them as equals rather than as sexual objects to be conquered. It's the same culture that tells men that to be wanted by a woman, you have to be virile and aggressive or she'll leave you for another man who is more virile and aggressive than you are. A patriarchal hetero-normative culture punishes boys who violate any of these rules with being ostracized as a "fag" by other boys in their social circles until they harden up and conform. For evidence of this, go to Google and type in "Women should," "Women shouldn't," "Women want," and "Women need." The most popular searches that come up should horrify any decent person.

This cultural brainwashing of boys is done systematically from a young age through television, movies, music, and a tradition of idolizing virile professions like college and professional football. This cultural rot will continue, and we'll continue to see incidents like Steubenville happen on a regular basis, until men become allies, embrace feminism not as a pejorative label but as something to be proud of, and collectively speak out against patriarchy. Let's demand a cultural evolution, and let Steubenville be the first step.



Carl Gibson, 25, is co-founder of US Uncut, a nationwide creative direct-action movement that mobilized tens of thousands of activists against corporate tax avoidance and budget cuts in the months leading up to the Occupy Wall Street movement. Carl and other US Uncut activists are featured in the documentary "We're Not Broke," which premiered at the 2012 Sundance Film Festival. He currently lives in Madison, Wisconsin. You can contact him at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , and follow him on twitter at @uncutCG.

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+84 # MEBrowning 2013-03-19 09:30
Bravo, Mr. Gibson. I wish all young men were as open-minded and comfortable in their skins as you.

There is a petition to CNN to apologize for its disgusting one-sided coverage of this story. There are 110,000 signatures so far, and 150,000 is the goal. Please sign by visiting:

http://act.weareultraviolet.org/sign/cnnsteubenville
 
 
+44 # dkonstruction 2013-03-19 10:18
Quoting MEBrowning:
Bravo, Mr. Gibson. I wish all young men were as open-minded and comfortable in their skins as you.

There is a petition to CNN to apologize for its disgusting one-sided coverage of this story. There are 110,000 signatures so far, and 150,000 is the goal. Please sign by visiting:

http://act.weareultraviolet.org/sign/cnnsteubenville


Thanks for pointing people to this petition. Not that I think it will do much in the end (though they might apologize for this one but I doubt it). CNN is no more "news" than FOX or any of the other Murdoch outlets and at this point covers everything as if it were either Entertainment Tonight or some sporting event.
 
 
+41 # MEBrowning 2013-03-19 12:02
I agree with you. But ...

“There is a power that can be created out of pent-up indignation, courage, and the inspiration of a common cause, and that if enough people put their minds and bodies into that cause, they can win. It is a phenomenon recorded again and again in the history of popular movements against injustice all over the world.”
― Howard Zinn
 
 
+28 # juliajayne 2013-03-19 11:02
I signed the document already, and posted it to FB and twitter.
 
 
+31 # Regina 2013-03-19 12:05
I signed it, and added my own retort in the comments box. The whole community of Steubenville appears to be depraved.
 
 
+12 # Vermont Grandma 2013-03-19 17:01
Thanks for this link, MEBrowning.
 
 
-42 # heraldmage 2013-03-20 00:35
I think the majority have forgotten your teenage years.
For decades thousand of teenagers head to Florida & Texas for Spring Break. They drink themselves unconscious, party day & night and have sex. The very same thing that these football players were prosecuted & convicted of is going on right now & for the next 2 weeks. Most likely when she was conscious they were having consensual sex otherwise the other party goers would have intervened, but she refused to leave at her friends urging.
They were wrong in documenting their conquests & continuing sex after she lost consciousness. But alcohol affects your judgement & concept of right & wrong and it was freely flowing, illegally I might add.
There is plenty of blame to go around to demonize just on the boys is wrong.

Unlike real rape victims who are attacked & unwilling this teenage girl girl was out partying drinking looking to meet guys and have sex. That's what teenagers do. Because of her drunkenness she most likely doesn't remember anything that happened after the 1st couple of drinks. These kids are at the age of exploration, defiance & if it feels good do it, don't worry about the consequences.
If she is scarred it is because of what happened afterward with the KnightSec worldwide distribution of illegally obtained private Internet files.
Most kids on Spring break would feel the same way if video of their action was released.
 
 
+29 # kelly 2013-03-20 08:11
I don't know what your teenage years were like, buddy-boy, but I was growing up right in the middle of the 70's...you know disco, me generation, kinda stuff? Rape wasn't an option.How do you justify rape with consensual sex? Why do you think that a group of brainwashed teens who call themselves the rape squad would have ever intervened after making comments like "if she had been my daughter, I wouldn't have cared if she was dead..."
Do you feel like the boys who were attacked by Sandusky who didn't protest weren't real rape victims because they didn't protest? But you're right, there is blame to go around. What parent would teach their child that rape is acceptable? Or that to say nothing means to say yes? When a person who is about to be attacked is frozen before they are going to be robbed, is it their fault when the crime occurs because they couldn't say "no"? It is sick that no one had the guts to say stop. That no girl who saw the video their boyfriend took said if you are able to do that I am leaving. I'm appalled that it took immunity for even parents to get their kids to come forward. And I am sickened that people can even consider defending this action...get it?
 
 
+27 # dkonstruction 2013-03-20 09:08
"Most likely when she was conscious they were having consensual sex otherwise the other party goers would have intervened."

Really? And you know this because....?

"Unlike real rape victims." So, in other words this young woman isn't a "real rape" victim because she got drunk? Or because she wore provocative clothing? or because she was a flirt?

thanks for corroborating Gibson's main point that Patriarchy Dominates Media's Steubenville Coverage and for showing all that these views go way beyond just our media.
 
 
+13 # ProSinglePayerAllTheWay 2013-03-20 09:38
Please take the "Mage" out of your name. Herald you can keep, but what are you heralding?
 
 
+42 # wwway 2013-03-19 09:32
Men have thought about women in this way for generations. Women who point this out are seen as "radical" and the women's liberation movement was seen as "radical." Still is.
One of our founding fathers, Alexander Hamilton, was declared by his father a bastard child so that he could legitimize his bastard children from his mistress. We have a culture where spreading wild oats isn't socially repugnat but a woman getting pregnate is.
Men have always justified their treament of women with "they asked for it" or "they secretly enjoyed it" or "when raped a woman's body shuts that whole thing down."
Fathers and mothers need to instruct their sons and daughters about how to behave. How can they do that though? Men and women today...our sons and daughters...beh ave like their parents. Nothing much has changed. We accept that men and boys spread their wild oats and girls ask for it.
Our laws still reflect that acceptance.
 
 
+70 # Susan1989 2013-03-19 09:33
Competitive team athletics should be taken out of schools and replaced with lifetime sports...this includes colleges. The culture of athletics in this country has become toxic...nothing good seems to come out of the jock mentality.
 
 
+6 # bmiluski 2013-03-19 10:58
I can't disagree with you more. I was an athlete and I loved to compete and I am a woman.
The "jock" mentality exists even in chess matches. It's in the nature of most males.
 
 
+26 # MidwestTom 2013-03-19 09:43
Where were the parents? The bigger story to is the fact that all but three of those present (both boys and girls) refused to testify. Obviously these kids had been raised with the concept of "do your own thing", and explore with no limits. Children raised by their piers, not by by parents teaching them right from wrong.
 
 
+38 # Shahla Khan Salter 2013-03-19 09:45
Great article. People should be outraged at the crime, not at the "set back" for the perpetrators. Tried to sign petition - am in Canada - we get CNN - how do I sign without US zip code?
 
 
+16 # sean1303 2013-03-19 12:21
Quoting Shahla Khan Salter:
Great article. People should be outraged at the crime, not at the "set back" for the perpetrators. Tried to sign petition - am in Canada - we get CNN - how do I sign without US zip code?


Just use the Steubenville zip code!
 
 
0 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 08:00
Great name!
 
 
+24 # genierae 2013-03-19 09:57
Mr. Gibson's last paragraph is inspired, I thank him for his unusual masculine insight. But his comments: "irreparable damage to the victim", and "scar the 16-year-old victim for life" are self-fulfilling prophecies that are not at all set in stone. The capacity for human beings to rise above their traumatic experiences is only limited by their inability to believe that this is possible. We have immense strength if we choose to draw on it, and this young girl can use this tragedy to gain insight and wisdom. If she chooses to run away and hide, she will suffer needlessly, but if she faces what she doesn't want to face, with courage and perserverance, she will certainly grow as a human being and as a woman. "Out of one bitter root comes many flowers."
 
 
+14 # juliajayne 2013-03-19 10:51
Indeed, given how prominent rape is, if women didn't rise above the horror, we'd be basket cases, unable to function. We're made of strong stuff, moreso than a lot of males who seem to be pretty thin skinned emotionally. Just try researching the MRA movement. And google a site called manboobs.com. That site highlights the worst of misogyny and other disgusting hatred. Be prepared to be gobsmacked, the stuff is exceedingly putrid.
 
 
+6 # genierae 2013-03-20 08:16
jj: Women are more aware of their spiritual essence than are men, and that's why they are not as hypnotized by their sexuality. Men think that sexual gratification is the most important aspect of their lives, while women are more in tune with affection and love. Women are not better than men, but they are definitely more advanced. We need to teach our sons and daughters that the spiritual must come first, then everything else will be added.
 
 
0 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 08:46
I see your "spiritual essence" and your "definitely more advanced stuff" as just polite stridency. Sexual gratification really does feel like the most important thing in a man's life. Ostensibly to ensure the viability of the species, nature built a man like a battery connected to a dumb charger. Even after the battery is fully charged, the current keeps getting forced in, so that unless we discharge, the battery overheats and produces nonstandard reactions. Women, on the other hand, are, for physiological reasons, necessarily cyclic. Thus, boys, tormented yet trying to do the right thing, actually fall in "love" more easily than girls. And when they're not trying to do the right thing, watch out. I don't think those kids need to be sent away, but it would be more educatory if others were dragged into it and made to learn the lesson which has been driven home to those two.
 
 
+12 # juliajayne 2013-03-19 10:59
Girls that age are generally wanting acceptance if they're giving BJs. I don't think they're getting any desires met, except for said acceptance. Try giving a BJ and see how pleasureable it is to have a member stuck down your throat. This is not to say that grown women in relationships of mutual respect and comity find it repulsive to please their partners, but let's see this for what it is.

Please don't conflate rape with having sex.
 
 
+6 # genierae 2013-03-20 08:23
jj: I don't know who you're directing this comment to, since I'm not conflating rape with sex, but I don't think any female should engage in any sexual activity that she finds repulsive. And I don't think she should have sex with someone just to please them. She should please herself by saying "NO!".
 
 
+21 # Vermont Grandma 2013-03-19 17:08
genierae, despite your best hopes, this 16-year-old victim will be scarred for life. Others may not see the scars, but they will be there and erupt regularly as a reminder of this experience and its aftermath. Women sitting around talking often learn of the others' victimization long after it occurred, and that the experience still sears decades and decades later. It's not a question of running away and hiding, but rather that these experience have a lasting effect, even when they are far less traumatic and horrible as what happened to this girl. Please do not suggest to others that this victim is responsible if she continues to suffer from this experience for the rest of her life, that she "chooses to run away and hide" or that she's failed to face what she's experienced with "courage and perserverence." This victim and others don't need further blame for how they handle the victimization of sexual assault.
 
 
-4 # genierae 2013-03-20 08:38
Vermont Grandma, if you want to sentence yourself to a lifetime of grief and pain that's your choice to make, but please don't include the rest of us in your illusions. Just because you find it impossible to rise above tragedy, doesn't mean that it's impossible for human beings to do it. I speak from my own personal experience and so I'm not being frivolous, nor am I blaming the victim. What she does with this horrific experience is entirely her choice, whether she remains a victim all of her life, or if she chooses to use it to rise above it. Yes of course there are millions of women "victims" who are unaware of even having that choice, but there are also many who have transcended their pain and now are thriving and happy. If you don't hear about them, that's because they have truly left their misery behind them, and they don't think much about it. You need to open up your mind and learn to think in a new way, this world is changing and we must change with it or be left behind.

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.
 
 
+1 # AMLLLLL 2013-03-22 17:48
How about we start saying, rape 'survivor' rather than 'victim'? Life deals us dents and punishment, and some recover faster than others, some not at all. Hopefully, like 'Malala' from Afghanistan, we heal and forge on. It's up to us, the community, to nurture and support these survivors rather than judge them.
 
 
+7 # Anarchist 23 2013-03-19 17:08
What a bunch of crap! Being betrayed by men in whom one should have trust like professors and seminary students can make you stronger (I should know) but there are better ways to come into your own personal strength besides learning to overcome betrayal by those who should conduct themselves honorably.
 
 
-7 # genierae 2013-03-20 08:40
Why be selective about which painful circumstances to learn from? You are speaking from your anger and so you are not speaking with clarity. Please read my reply to Vermont Grandma.
 
 
-44 # MidwestTom 2013-03-19 09:57
I am not a teenager, but there is ample evidence that girls have become far more aggressive toward buys than 20 or 30m years ago. Our account reports that her senior in HS son receives calls and invitations from girls all of the time. the local theater manager reports that girls too young to drive regularly give oral sex to their male friends in the theater's back rows. Girls develop much faster than boys and in today's culture they act on their desires. This does not excuse rape in any way, but a much larger percentage of girls are sexually active in their early teens than 30 years ago.
 
 
+42 # bmiluski 2013-03-19 11:02
What has this got to do with the fact that what happened to this girl was raped? Since she was unconscious she could not consent to having sex. Ergo, she was raped.
 
 
-13 # Texan 4 Peace 2013-03-19 11:20
True, but completely irrelevant to this story.
 
 
+9 # dkonstruction 2013-03-20 09:10
Quoting MidwestTom:
I am not a teenager, but there is ample evidence that girls have become far more aggressive toward buys than 20 or 30m years ago. Our account reports that her senior in HS son receives calls and invitations from girls all of the time. the local theater manager reports that girls too young to drive regularly give oral sex to their male friends in the theater's back rows. Girls develop much faster than boys and in today's culture they act on their desires. This does not excuse rape in any way, but a much larger percentage of girls are sexually active in their early teens than 30 years ago.


If the fact that there is " there is ample evidence that girls have become far more aggressive toward buys than 20 or 30m years ago....does not excuse rape in any way" then why are you even raising this in the context of a story about a young woman who was gang raped?
 
 
-2 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 08:51
Boy, was I ever born too soon.
 
 
+21 # L H 2013-03-19 10:32
Thank you for saying what needs to be said, Carl Gibson! Patriarchy has ruled for so long that there is little fear of consequences for raping. The Steubenville case could help to put a little fear in the minds of men and boys. Consequences! We need consequences big time to start a cold sweat BEFORE rape happens.

The consequence for such violation of women or children should be castration. If someone misused a gun, it would be taken away. A woman's or a child's life has been degraded and changed forever, and sometimes murdered. It is time for any man who rapes to have real and lasting consequence. Society does not want his seed to procreate! It fits the act of violation. So, will the dominating Patriarchy ever make castration the punishment? I never hear it mentioned. Seems like it fits the crime perfectly. Then, maybe the image of what is admirable and desirable about a man will NOT be violating or raping another human being.
 
 
-3 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 08:53
Geez, does that mean that if I get pulled over for speeding, I lose my right foot?
 
 
+2 # Cassandra2012 2013-03-21 17:06
Or at the very least public humiliation ---tie the boys who 'will be boys' to a tree stripped naked and paint a big red R
on their foreheads — then post THAT on the internet, perhaps?
 
 
+1 # AMLLLLL 2013-03-23 21:46
In the Cheyenne culture there were three recorded incidents of rape in 100 years, the consequence being that the rape survivor was not punished for cutting off the offending member of her aggressor. I don't know what the current recidivism rate for rapists is, but would guess it's high due to lenient sentencing. Patriarchal society has its flaws.
 
 
+28 # Fraenkel.1 2013-03-19 11:02
I agree we need a cultural change. It's more important than guns and healthcare because it dehumanizes females. We have no business criticizing India and Afghanistan for their treatment of women when we have Steubenville. The behavior of adults who supported the rapists is more reprehensible than anything the football players did. I'm afraid the atmosphere of high school football has something to do with this.
 
 
+5 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 08:57
Professional sports just sparkles with heroic rapists, dogfighters, burglars, assaulters, racists and murderers. Just like real life!
 
 
+13 # bmiluski 2013-03-19 11:08
Why is anyone surprised by what happened in Steubenville? Our kids have been listening to rap music that glorifies the abuse of girls and women and NO ONE SAID ANYTHING.
 
 
+14 # Jimmiebrown77 2013-03-19 11:22
While I do agree with most of the article I think many people don't see the bigger picture. Most people would like to demonize these teenage boys as being the lowest of the low, deserving life in prison, castration, or even death. I do not condone what they did and I do believe they should be punished. I also feel deep sadness for the young lady who will most definitely be forever changed by this incident. I know of several women close to me who have been victimized and I had to restrain myself from doing something crazy. But this article supports the report of CNN. These BOYS are a product of a culture that has TAUGHT them to be this way. As Carl Gibson wrote, these things are taking place almost everyday, all over the place. So giving two teenagers the chair will not send a message or change the social practices that lead to this behavior. These boys lives have been changed as well. Going to PRISON and being categorized as a SEX OFFENDER are not easily forgotten or repaired. They too will be scarred by their own actions.

My point is that we must begin to change the culture in order to change the behavior that results. I agree when Carl states that boys are influenced from birth by men, media and even other boys. Just look at music like "blame it on the alcohol" (which won a Grammy) by Jamie Foxx or "say ahh".. These songs are the soundtrack of our youth. We must look at this culture, which breeds violence, greed, hate, and promiscuity, and decide to put IT on trial.
 
 
0 # Mrcead 2013-03-23 05:14
I agree with you. People in this country are 100% sold on the good/evil - punishment/rewa rd dynamic that Christian values are built around. What happens is an after the fact approach to running a society. Just look at Law Enforcement. Cops cannot do anything UNTIL a crime is committed because there are no provisions for anything else - a criminally minded individual can be allowed to roam free and plan but he has to be caught in the act - this does absolutely nothing to curb the behavior. Once a person becomes accustomed to jail (not hard for a person who had nothing to begin with) the hard part of that lifestyle is behind him - humans adapt quickly, it is our special ability. Birds fly and find north, bears catch salmon, frogs have great aim and humans can adapt to almost any environment. So the only people who get the lesson of "crime = jail" are the people who would never be inclined to commit any crimes anyway. Such a system is flawed and only works for a small community. America needs to start from childhood and instill base values in all of its people. Yes, culture must be altered to display the consequences for actions and choices.

[continued]
 
 
0 # Mrcead 2013-03-23 05:25
[continued]

But how? Congress unsuccessfully tried to regulate music culture in the 1980's. My suggestion is to have warning labels affixed to visual imagery before and after - maybe during? Just as tobacco products must carry warnings and pay for cultural awareness campaigns, the media industry must share the same burden. it is only fair. It isn't a solution, but it is a start. The bucket of cold water needed to cool down hot blooded individuals. The effects are present in society. Something has to be done to fix this mess. You should read some of the message boards that say it is totally fine to sleep with a drunk girl. They seriously try to rationalize this behaviour which illustrates 2 things.

1. They already know it is wrong, else why debate it? No one debates making toast - for example.

2. They see women as objects and never consider how the other person must feel in that kind of scenario. It is so easy for a man to imagine being taken advantage of whilst drunk (homophobes think about this CONSTANTLY) so the question is, why don't more guys use this line of thinking?

That's the real question. It is very troubling no one is asking it. I side with the feminists in this one. Men need to learn how to put themselves in other people's shoes. That should be like a required class in primary, secondary and tertiary schools. even make that a pass/fail on a driving test.
 
 
+21 # GravityWave 2013-03-19 11:27
gegenierae, MidwestTom, L H, the three of you just don't get it. The first two of you are spouting excuses, EXCUSES!!!, for these boys straight out of the cultural bias this article decries. Sorry but there is no excuse for taking an act that should be private and with consent from all participants into a state of uncontrolled violence against body and mind. Also, in the lack of control in which this rape was performed, worse circumstances could have happened. And while there are still cultural memes in place that allow males to brag about such things, there is no such cultural meme to help women get over being forced into an act over which they have no control. gen. & MidwestTom, you need to reexamine your premises and think for yourselves pre feral with your mind instead of lower down your anatomy.

L H, my knee jerk first reaction to Steubenville also is along the lines of grave punishment. But we are not barbarians, or at least some of us aren't, and the violent punishment you wish for these thugs is just more violence. There definitely should be grave punishments for rape. I personally hope their lives are greatly affected by this act. They are passed the age of reason. And reasonably this act should follow them all their lives. It is dismaying that anyone would feel sorry for them that this should happen to them! Jail time is in order and the sexual deviant label should hang around their necks like a large Red Letter.
 
 
-3 # L H 2013-03-19 15:07
We are not barbarians, but as the science and studies of DNA progress, we will have more facts of how ALL emotional experiences get recorded in the DNA of that individual and passed on to children. Castration would be the end of a genetic line if the male has committed rape or murder. This is not to be a butcher, but to take more responsibility when there has been a severe violation of life. The verdict can include ending semen production from a rightfully convicted man.

How many off-spring, how many children of sex-offenders now walking the streets and living next door, do you want to add to society's population knowing the violent and violating behavior is now in the DNA, and yes, it is now in the DNA of those two football players in Steubenville, Ohio.

And yes, all religions are patriarchal and responsible for teaching the inequality of women. Where are the women priests? Where are the women rabbis? Where are the women Dali Lamas? And the media, advertising, entertainment, and education of our children is responsible for such conditioning of youth.

Enough patriarchy! I agree with Carl. Then, zero tolerance of rape and violence against women, respect and equality for women taught to all children, and it will change.
 
 
-21 # heraldmage 2013-03-19 23:52
This was not intentional rape. This was partying that went to far.
This was teenager drinking illegally & hormones flying. The girl is not blameless no one forced her to drink until she was unconsciousness .
When she was conscious having sex I suppose that's alright but because the sex continued after she was unconscious that's rape.
This case has nothing to do with patriarchy or respect for women but actions of teenagers.
Was it any different when you were a teenager probably not. The different is social media & cell phones with camera's.
Hopefully kids will learn that what you put on the Internet can come back to haunt you. Even if it was illegally obtained.
So where is the prosecution of the people who gave minors alcohol? What about the illegal hack of computers why aren't the member's of KnightSec being prosecuted? The ends don't justify the means.
If we are to teach are children right from wrong then justice must be equally dispensed.
This has nothing to do with patriarchy and everything to do with the actions of teenagers & parents & communities protecting their children.
The community, ministers, principles, parents & peers could have metered out worse punishment from the teenager prospective than the public spectacle of a trial with selective punishment.
Thankfully they were tried & convicted as minors.
 
 
+11 # kelly 2013-03-20 08:30
I do NOT recall the testimony about her being conscious during a sex act unless you were hearing testimony I didn't catch. And no, it would not have be "alright" because unless she said specifically "yes" then they had no right to do anything. Yes means yes. No or nothing means "NO".
As for the other prosecutions, the AG of the state is looking into that. As for the community, etc. handing out punishment...un til a reporter who had gone through the same thing herself saw the video which was posted on one of the kid's facebook pages...about two weeks after all was said done nobody really was doing anything. Through her detective work it was finally taken seriously. Look at the article. Only three people attending the party were willing to come forward and that was because they were offered immunity. There would have been no punishment at all if there had been no national outcry. Try again. By the way...I don't think there is such a thing as intentional rape. Rape is rape. Pure and simple.
 
 
+1 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 09:22
Not that there is any excuse for acting on assumption, but nothing doesn't always mean "no." Rather, nothing means nothing.
 
 
0 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 09:24
Come to think of it, at times in my life I myself have meant "nothing" to mean everything.
 
 
+6 # dkonstruction 2013-03-20 09:15
So, are you suggesting that there is such a thing as "unintentional rape" and if so what is it?

And, the fact that you can say that this rape was "unintentional" and was simply the "actions of teenagers" which had "nothing to do with patriarchy or respect for women" just proves that Gibson didn't go far enough by limiting such patriarchal attitudes to the media. Or, are you suggesting that a man can commit "unintentional rape" without this having anything to do with their views about women more broadly?
 
 
0 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 09:18
What's your gut feeling about Robin Hood?
 
 
0 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 09:14
In about the 1700's Doctor Lamarque (sp?) snipped off the tails of many generations of mice and never produced a single tailless mouse, so your DNA-as-experien cial-hard-drive theory hasn't been supported yet, or given much credence since. And this zero tolerance stuff should go over well with the private prison industry. We'll all be on the inside for something or other. And as for patriarchy, I don't like it any more than you do, but it's hard to find the head of that snake.
 
 
0 # L H 2013-03-21 20:37
Quoting mikeandnettie:
In about the 1700's Doctor Lamarque (sp?) snipped off the tails of many generations of mice and never produced a single tailless mouse, so your DNA-as-experiencial-hard-drive theory hasn't been supported yet, or given much credence since. ..... And as for patriarchy, I don't like it any more than you do, but it's hard to find the head of that snake.



This is a limited view: Having a tail chopped off doesn't mean it disappears in the DNA, especially when the balance of a scampering mouse is highly affected and the "experience" keeps the DNA of having a tail in place.

And Patriarchal Authority is the gift of all religions to this world. The head of that snake is religion, a long time ago. There aren't many enlightened groups that avoided this, except the Iroquois Nation (Confederacy and Constitution) that learned over time that they needed women in positions of power to keep the peace.
 
 
+5 # genierae 2013-03-20 08:46
GW: Please tell me where I said that these boys should be excused for what they did? But it's also true that these boys have been conditioned all of their lives to believe that girls are inferior, and jock mentality allows them to use these girls for selfish gratification. I think this toxic society, and the parents of these kids, deserve equal responsibility for this tragedy.
 
 
+20 # Deist 2013-03-19 11:43
A key reason for anti-women foolishness and violence can be found in religion. Judaism, Christianity and Islam are all loaded with teachings that women are inferior, are worthless than boys and men and should be subserviant to men. Until we can correct this ungodly damaging reality we will be very limited in stopping this problem overall.

One way to stop the religious attacks on women is to show sincere believers that by following a "revealed" religion they are turning their backs on their gift from God of reason as all of the "holy" books go directly against our reason. Thomas Paine made this clear in his landmark book on God, Deism and religion, The Age of Reason, The Complete Edition. He called for a revolution in religion based on our innate God-given reason and Deism. I think Thomas Paine was correct.

Progress! Bob Johnson
www.deism.com
 
 
0 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 09:31
Whenever things get murky, I go out in the morning and breathe the air around Tom Paine.
 
 
+25 # sean1303 2013-03-19 12:15
I am male, I grew up in Montana, and I have openly called myself a feminist since I was 16 in 1974. I occasionally see intelligent, otherwise pretty progressive young women who say something on the order of "I am not a feminist, but..." and I grieve that the patriarchal brainwashing has been so effective. Let's not be shy about being feminists....do n't let Rush Limbaugh package you....
 
 
+18 # lorenbliss 2013-03-19 12:16
Well said. I hope Mr. Gibson understands there's a direct line from patriarchy to capitalism and thence to fascism and Nazism: that Nazism is the political and economic fulfillment of patriarchy.

There is also a direct line from misogyny, the hatred of women at the core of patriarchy, to the jock cult's defining acts of school-yard bullying and thence to rape, the interpersonal fulfillment of patriarchy.

Indeed the jock cult, like its brother the glory-of-war cult, is a perfect microcosm of fascism/Nazism.

Why then is jock brutality and its associated horrors tolerated – indeed encouraged – by school authorities?

Because – though none dare say it aloud – it is prerequisite to functioning in the capitalist/fasc ist/Nazi workplace, whether one is an executive (a bully with a license for savagery and sadism) or a worker (a victim who has but two recourses, submission or revolution).

Which is why the Steubenville case is so important a turning-point.

Now let us hope those at the party who countenanced the rape – those who laughed and jeered or merely gawked and did nothing – are similarly prosecuted, similarly brought to justice, similarly destroyed by the permanent odium of the sex-offender label.

And yes such lifetime retribution is absolutely fair. One of the more hideous realities of rape is how it scars its victims, forever robbing them of the ability to experience the sexual fullness of love.
 
 
+19 # fredboy 2013-03-19 12:35
These "boys" are sexual predators and rapists, nothing less. Their glorification on Good Morning America and other network ego shows does not surprise me.

Steubenville and its football fanaticism disgrace the sport. It is a town of followers, weak-minded locals who ignore victims to glorify sadists. May the town rot off the map.
 
 
+4 # Citizen Mike 2013-03-19 13:06
Absent from this discussion is the general idea that we all. should refrain from becoming so drunk that we are defenseless and vulnerable to any kind of attack. A guy who gets falling-down drunk is easy prey for a mugger and a gal who gets falling-down drunk is easy prey for a rapist.

Both of them are vulnerable to any kind of accident or mishap you can name,from having their pockets picked to having their heads bashed in. Furthermore, not a peep do I hear about a drunken party for under-age boys and girls with no adult supervision and no restraining influences.

Seeing a woman become helplessly drunk does not excuse rape but her being in that condition certainly does make her an easy victim. And the guys at this party were loaded, too, their better judgment was not online.

The entire incident is regrettable but it is easy to see how it came to happen, with a bunch of loaded kids. Some re-evaluation of our social priorities is very much in order. Why does our culture encourage heavy drinking even among the underage? And why do we not support the legalization of pot, which is a much kinder intoxicant and is not associated with violence of any kind?
 
 
+19 # Timaloha 2013-03-19 13:57
I haven't heard any mention or discussion of the fact that these heinous acts were witnessed by girls as well as boys and yet not one girl stepped in to help or called 911 or notified the police afterwards. Two girls have been arrested for threatening the victim! What does THAT say about youth in society today?
 
 
+11 # lorenbliss 2013-03-19 17:45
What it says is submission, more specifically "identification with the oppressor" -- the reason multitudes of Islamic women support female genital mutilation; the reason millions of Occidental women disfigure themselves with breast “enhancement” and/or ruin their spines with high heels; the reason Working Class USians of both genders continue to elect politicians who represent only the Ruling Class.
 
 
+7 # Kathymoi 2013-03-19 18:44
Good Morning America! I'm not surprised by CNN, but I guess it's just about every program on a major network. How can people swallow this attitude? Do they? Are there people at home in their living rooms who are so brain dead that they believe the television entertainer that these boys are to be pitied because they will undoubtedly suffer as a result of what they did (repeatedly rape a 16 year old girl, for fun and entertainment). It's horrifying that the media is trying to make it alright for the boys.
 
 
-9 # Rick Levy 2013-03-19 20:48
This is a bit off topic but there is the question of fairness in the media's withholding the identity of the accuser in rape cases but not that of the accused before he has had his day in court. Under such circumstances, pre-trial publicity can prejudice the public and thus prevent the defendant from getting a fair trial.

That didn't happen in this case but in rape trials where the evidence is less conclusive, disclosure of the of the defendant's name and picture while shielding the victim seems very unjust. And it's probably the only type of crime in which the media treats each side so differently.
 
 
+3 # MEBrowning 2013-03-20 10:50
Fox News released the name of the victim, so I guess you'd say they're even.
 
 
-16 # heraldmage 2013-03-19 23:25
One of the problems with Mr Gibson account is that he leave the 16yr old girl blameless. It wasn't 16yr old football players who took her out on a date & fed her alcohol until she passed out. She did that, she went out intending to get drunk, meet boys & have sex. Her friends testified to her drunken lewd behavior & tried convince her to call it a night but instead she continued to party she could have consented to sex in her drunken state.
Yes, it was wrong of the drunk teenage boys to document their conquest on social media and continue having sex after the girl passed out.
It was also wrong for KnightSec to hack into private Internet accounts to expose this case over the Internet. The community knew what happened and could impose strict punishments to everyone without exposing all the children to a public spectacle. Local ridicule & family embarrassment is difficult enough to deal with.
The unconscious drunk girl probably had no memory of events while she was unconscious. But now that it made national TV & she went through a public trial she certainly will be scarred & have to live with the embarrassment to her & her family of the exposure of her & her classmates drunken lewd behavior. The boys are learning there are consequences. The girls got immunity from prosecution for their testimony.
The lesson here is don't use social media to document your actions & stay away from drunk teenage girls looking for a good time.
 
 
+9 # kelly 2013-03-20 08:57
If they had truly been her friends, they would have stopped the rape. And could have is not the same as did.It was wrong of them to make her a conquest...not just to document the conquest. The community knew and did not act--that is why it was necessary for someone to prod them, obviously the only ridicule was on the victim...throug h the postings on the internet. Now through death threats, the girl is still being harassed. Boys got immunity from prosecution because video was found was traced to their cell phones. Do not mask the fact with a skewed vision of reality.
 
 
+9 # dkonstruction 2013-03-20 09:20
So, in other words, if you are a woman and get drunk it's not rape and you got what you deserved (and according to you the only thing the males did wrong was "documenting their conquest" online)?. And, do you really believe that the bulk of the "scarring" that this woman will have to endure for her entire life is due to "embarrassment" rather than being the victim of a violent sex crime? thanks again for showing that Gibson didn't go far enough by limiting these views to the media.
 
 
0 # Mrcead 2013-03-23 05:44
The interesting part is that if any of these males were to be taken advantage of by another male in the EXACT same way, there would be a murder investigation afterwards. I mean, this is pretty much the entire basis of a homophobic mindset in homophobic men. So why is it so hard for these people to put themselves in the woman's place when they share the EXACT same fear of being taken advantage of?

It makes no sense. Just bring the issue up randomly on the internet and see what kind of feedback you get.
 
 
+2 # mikeandnettie 2013-03-21 09:48
So the takeaway is "don't get caught?" Does that go for Anonymous too? Because if it doesn't, you have a logical contradiction that disallows your entire argument.
 
 
+2 # Cassandra2012 2013-03-21 17:14
So when someone mugs you because you ended up on a dark street it's your fault?
 
 
+1 # Mrcead 2013-03-23 06:42
Never use man logic to appeal to men. Men argue by point/counter point and the goal is to beat the opponent, not resolve any conflict. Nothing ever gets resolved because it is all posturing for dominance. The victor gains control and winning is all in ones head anyway when it comes to rhetoric.

What you have to do is create the same enough scenario the man has to try to navigate through (because that is just how men think - at face value). The fragile house of suppositions will crumble when enough of them are used to try to argue against your point. The position taken against you will be that much weaker. This is how you argue with stubborn men and get your point across - indirectly. Your opponent may not get the message but the observers will.
 
 
+3 # tishado 2013-03-23 03:34
I just have to challenge all of the men who talk about "real rape" and the "blame" that the victim should share. Imagine going to a party and passing out drunk. Is anything that is done to you then okay because you were drunk? If you wore a tight shirt, would you have blame when you were raped? Rape is rape.
 

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