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Boardman writes: "Former members of the Reagan administration are breathing easier now that they are somewhat less likely to face criminal charges for their part in the Guatemalan genocide of 1982-83, supported by Reagan policies."

Former U.S. President Ronald Reagan. (photo: Bettmann/Corbis)
Former U.S. President Ronald Reagan. (photo: Bettmann/Corbis)



Reagan's Chickens Home to Roost?

By William Boardman, Reader Supported News

22 May 13

 

he guilty get some breathing room, but not safety yet

Former members of the Reagan administration are breathing easier, now that they are somewhat less likely to face criminal charges for their part in the Guatemalan genocide of 1982-1983, supported by Reagan policies.

The threat that former officials might be held accountable for genocidal policies of the Reagan administration increased on May 10, when a Guatemalan lower court convicted the country's former president, General Efrain Rios Montt, 86, of genocide and crimes against humanity for his part in the killing of thousands of Guatemalan civilians.

Rios Montt's conviction and sentence included an order by Judge Iris Yassmin Barrios to Attorney General Paz Y Paz to further investigate everyone else involved in Rios Montt's crimes, an investigation that would include many Guatemalans including the country's current president, as well as U.S. military advisors, the CIA and other American agents, and Washington officials like Elliott Abrams and others directly involved in supporting the Guatemalan governmental genocide.

But this threat of prosecution for accessories and accomplices to genocide didn't last long, as Guatemala's highest court, the Constitutional Court of Guatemala, ruled by a vote of 3-2 on May 20 that the lower court's proceedings going back to April 19 were dismissed, thus annulling the verdict.

The Genocidal General's Trial May Yet Begin Again

But the Constitutional Court ruling also allows the trial to resume at some undetermined time in the future. The dismissal sets the trial back to April 19, when a judge who had heard earlier but separate proceedings relating to Rios Montt asserted jurisdiction over the continuing trial that had started a month earlier. Judge Barrios overruled the prior judge supported by Attorney General Paz Y Pay, who said his claim was unlawful.

The jurisdictional dispute proceeded to the Constitutional Court while Rios Montt's trial continued to its unsurprising conviction, given the weight of the evidence against him and his administration.

Rios Montt came to power in 1982 through a military coup, after he had lost a democratic election for the second time, claiming massive fraud both in 1974 and 1982. Between elections, in 1978, Rios Montt had left the Catholic Church and become a minister in the evangelical/Pentecostal Church of the Word, based in California. His friends and supporters included Rev. Jerry Falwell, Rev. Pat Robertson, and others connected with the evangelical movement that helped elect Ronald Reagan president in 1980.

Rios Montt would be the American-supported dictator of Guatemala for only 17 months, before he fell to another military coup. But in that time he was responsible for government forces that killed more than 1,700 people, mostly indigenous Mayans, and also tortured, raped, kidnapped, and brutalized thousands more – for which he was found guilty on May 10.

Ronald Reagan and His Administration Supported Gen. Rios Montt

President Reagan praised Rios Montt for his anticommunism and claimed that human rights were improving under his rule, while human rights organizations condemned the general and the army. Amnesty International estimated that Rios Montt's forced killed more than 10,000 rural Guatemalans from March to August 1982, and drove more than 100,000 from their homes.

Reagan evaded Congressional oversight in order to provide Rios Montt with millions of dollars of military aid. When Reagan and the general met in Honduras in December 1982, Reagan spoke warmly of him: "I know that President Rios Montt is a man of great personal integrity and commitment. I know he wants to improve the quality of life for all Guatemalans and to promote social justice. My administration will do all it can to support his progressive efforts."

"The next day," the London Review of Books reported in 2004, "one of Guatemala's elite platoons entered a jungle village called Las Dos Erres and killed 162 of its inhabitants, 67 of them children." The report continued:

Soldiers grabbed babies and toddlers by their legs, swung them in the air, and smashed their heads against a wall. Older children and adults were forced to kneel at the edge of a well, where a single blow from a sledgehammer sent them plummeting below. The platoon then raped a selection of women and girls it had saved for last, pummelling their stomachs in order to force the pregnant among them to miscarry.
They tossed the women into the well and filled it with dirt, burying an unlucky few alive. The only traces of the bodies later visitors would find were blood on the walls and placentas and umbilical cords on the ground.

On another occasion, Reagan claimed that the dictator was getting a "bum rap."

In 1983, then assistant secretary of state Elliott Abrams told PBS, "the amount of killing of innocent civilians is being reduced step by step.... We think that kind of progress needs to be rewarded and encouraged."

Guatemalans Have Struggled for Decades to Get Justice

The currently interrupted trial is part of a judicial process that began in 2001, with a ruling by the Constitutional Court on March 21, exposing Rios Montt and others of the ruling party to prosecution for corruption. The next day, two grenades were thrown in the yard of Judge Iris Yassmin Barrios. Three days later, the head of the Constitutional Court, Judge Conchita Mazariegos, had shots fired at her house.

The criminal role of the United States in Guatemala has continued at least since 1954, when the Eisenhower administration engineered a CIA-backed coup d'etat against the country's elected president.

American reporting on the Rios Montt trial and America's role in genocide in Central America goes largely unreported in the United States. According to FAIR, none of the three major TV networks have mentioned the trial since it began. Perhaps the most detailed coverage has come from DemocracyNOW, which summed up the present situation this way:

In the run-up to its latest decision to overturn, the court had come under heavy lobbying from Rios Montt supporters, including Guatemala's powerful business association, CACIF. Rios Montt remains in a military hospital where he was admitted last week. His legal status is now up in the air. He will likely be released into house arrest, and it is unclear when or if he will return to court.

For the moment, that leaves surviving Reagan administration officials beyond the reach of Guatemalan law and international law.

In 1998, Bishop Juan Gerardi, head of the human rights commission uncovering the truth of the disappearances associated with the military, including Rios Montt, was assassinated. His successor is Catholic bishop Mario Enrique Rios Montt, the convicted general's brother. The trial and conviction of Bishop Gerardi's killers in 2001 was the first time members of the military were tried in a civilian court.

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+98 # MainStreetMentor 2013-05-22 16:18
I recollect there was a Republican "call" to have Reagans' image etched in stone on Mount Rushmore ... Reagan of the "trickle-down economics" birth ... Reagan the destroyer of unions ... Reagan the backer of a killer Guatemalan regime. That "call" was, thankfully, rejected by Americans with sound judgment and good sense.
 
 
+44 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-05-22 22:01
Wayne Dyer once made a comment that struck me. First, I saw the comment as a great "beam of light." The comment: "whatever is out there should be. What is the evidence? Well, it is out there." Then, after I thought about all the good there was, is "out there," I also had to think about the horrible crimes that "are out there." Why do the horrible crimes exist "out there?" Because, there is not enough push back by honorable people to stop it, those crimes. So, no push back, the crimes persist. Until the good honorable people push back. "whatever is out there should be." For example when Obama signed into law a package which had to do with budget matters and a Monsanto "right" was inserted as part of that package, he did not have line item veto power to "scratch" the Monssanto provision. Some powerful political influence inserted that Monsanto "right" into the package. Now, a case in point: where the hell was Obama pushing back against a crime against humanity? Where was the push back by any legislator and who said, "this is wrong!" Where was the news coverage about a dirty deal presented to the American people? I read some news about this instance, but soon "all was quiet." "Nobody cared" was an assumption the press made and there was no follow up to expose a "rat" to the American people. The "rat" being that person who found a way to force the Monsanto provision into the document that Obama signed.
 
 
+30 # Arden 2013-05-23 07:09
and why is there no law against slipping unrelated items into bills? Everything IS related, but Monsanto's relationship to the "budget" is what really should be discussed.
 
 
+13 # balconesfalk 2013-05-23 08:44
[quote Now, a case in point: where the hell was Obama pushing back against a crime against humanity? Where was the push back by any legislator and who said, "this is wrong!" Where was the news coverage about a dirty deal presented to the American people?
They are all scared little bunnies in the face of an extremely powerful multinational that could take them out individually like a moth by a flame. Control of the food supply is more powerful than the control of shares in the military industrial complex. You have to provoke and start wars, whereas people get hungry on a daily basis without anyone lifting a finger.
 
 
+6 # bmiluski 2013-05-23 13:41
93% of all violent crimes are commited by men. Men rule the world
ergo......horri ble crimes exist.
 
 
-2 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-05-23 16:45
TO: BMILUSKI
First, women, by feeding their men and families junk food, food which is not nutritious, America women are doing to their families a "not so pleasant crime" by creating one of the fattest societies on this planet. American women due to their influence or lack of it in the home have "created" 150 high school "drop out factories" in the U.S. Further, by their "non-violent" home influence, they have raised our children to be 25th in the world in math and science. This is how and why we get George W. Bush and Dick Cheney criminals types who run the U.S. government "for the people." BMILUSKI more often than not does not add intelligent thoughts to this board. You waste no time throwing knives at men. Sorry, MMILUSKI, take your hatred out on men in some other way. Such as, join the military. Then you have a license to kill, can shoot men without getting yourself arrested.
 
 
0 # suzyskier 2013-05-25 22:28
Well Eldon J bloedorn (real name?) You don't seem to keen on women so I find you somewhat hypocritical. You certainly laid a lot of blame on women for a multitude of "crimes" I guess fathers are blameless in the raising of children?
 
 
0 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-05-26 11:13
Why am I "somewhat hypocritical" because I know American women are feeding their children, families mostly junk food? I'm not a "bible person" as the bible was written by those who did not even know what an atom was or is. Yet there is a phrase which says, "never reprove an ignorant person. Just makes them mad." Yes, I list my real name. I'm in the phone book. I am keen on good virtuous women. If you take the time to think, there is a difference between being keen on virtuous women, which I am and those women who have bad attitudes or no attitude toward nutrition and how it affects our civilization, our country. A very bad non-nutritional diet, as one factor, does seriously affect our children's school performance. Fathers today are not blameless. Lots of fathers are working two jobs as well as some women to keep their families together. It is also a father's responsibility to be enough educated to understand the difference between what is nutritionally beneficial to our families and what can be very harmful. Do think American women are seriously lacking in nutritional values. I travel to China 3-4 times a year. I really have to look far and wide to find a "fat" Chinese man or woman or children walking around the streets of Wuhan City. It is not because the Chinese do not have enough to eat, which they do. The Chinese culture, needless to say is thousands of years old. They have learned, as a nation and as a people what is good and what is balanced nutrition.
 
 
+1 # X Dane 2013-05-26 14:31
Eldon J. Bloedorn.
You sound a bit, no VERY judgmental. I have always fed my family healthy food, fresh vegetables and fruits, NO junk food, never went to Mc Donalds, Taco Bell, or the other fast food places.

But I think you don't realize, that poor people do NOT have access to fresh fruits and vegetables, because there are no supermarkets in the inner cities, and many people do not have a car.

Also they have very little money, and wholesome food cost a lot more than pasta and other fattening foods.
 
 
0 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-05-26 18:48
You know, when I wanted to cross a street in Wisconsin during the winter time, I was always very judgmental. I like living. Think you are the judgmental one in this instance. Why? "America is the greatest country in the world." Ever hear that? As a country we are not humble enough to know what we do not know. As to your serving your family a healthy diet, great. Tho, I think you are shifting American fatness onto "the poor people." These people have access to food stamps other sources of healthy survival. The Mormon church has food storage programs, farms. I've seen many many Mormons being taken care of by their church, bad times. Few hours ago, lunch, I had a roast beef sandwich at my associates place. A high end sandwich shop. Shop also sells plenty of cookies, cakes, pastries, breads, etc. You name it. The people who eat there were not poor. Solid middle class and above. At least 50 % of the men and women who shop and eat there are fat or very fat.(the poor people eat down the street at Del Taco. Or do they?)I know some retired people who are not on their last dime, who eat regularly at Del Taco. And some of them are fat. You still have to address why Chinese people are very healthy looking and their per capita income, as a country is quite low by international standards. Chew on this. The Chinese cities have exercise parks-free. It is almost a disgrace to be fat in China. And it is also a disgrace (OK, another subject)to be an unwed mother in China. Fat, slim-ATTITUDE.
 
 
0 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-05-27 13:03
SUZYSKIER I have a hunch that you just might be BMILUSKI?
 
 
+11 # cwbystache 2013-05-23 05:10
no doubt they'd've had him in a white Stetson, as if he'd been "one of the good guys" ((wretch))

what he's the best poster boy for is the saying, "All hat, no cattle"
 
 
+15 # bingers 2013-05-23 16:06
Quoting cwbystache:
no doubt they'd've had him in a white Stetson, as if he'd been "one of the good guys" ((wretch))

what he's the best poster boy for is the saying, "All hat, no cattle"


I don't know about that, there's the little bearer of subhuman intelligence George W Bush to consider, and when I met Reagan in 1980 I told my fgriends I suspected he had Alzheimer's, years before the family admitted it to the world. So, a lot of Reagan's ignorance and idiotic policies were probably foisted off on him by the criminals he surrounded himself hip deep in.
 
 
-62 # universlman 2013-05-22 17:45
Reagan - Best damn cheerleader the nation ever had.
 
 
+24 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-05-22 22:56
He cheered for the rich Plutocrats. And he also cheered those who were mentally retarded "follow me" in math, science and economics.
 
 
-54 # edge 2013-05-23 04:23
Quoting Eldon J. Bloedorn:
He cheered for the rich Plutocrats. And he also cheered those who were mentally retarded "follow me" in math, science and economics.


YOU were not listening if you did not hear is message of "REAL" hope!
An economy that grew up until the DOT COM bubble burst under Clinton the First.
 
 
+33 # Oscar 2013-05-23 07:33
Problem is: we don't need cheerleaders that will give us a false sense of hope. We need problem fixes for the long run: the hole in the ozone depletion that Reagan denied; climate change that the Regan's acolytes are now denying, social inequality that Reagan increased, etc.
 
 
-30 # edge 2013-05-23 11:31
Quoting Oscar:
Problem is: we don't need cheerleaders that will give us a false sense of hope. We need problem fixes for the long run: the hole in the ozone depletion that Reagan denied; climate change that the Regan's acolytes are now denying, social inequality that Reagan increased, etc.


AND we don't need detractors like the current President that goes around apologizing for America!

Sure, we are not perfect, but fighting for freedom often means picking the lesser of two evils.

Hitler wanted to rule the world and we allied with Stalin who ended up killing almost as many. At the time we needed Russia to defeat Hitler.
 
 
+24 # dkonstruction 2013-05-23 13:00
Quoting edge:
Quoting Oscar:
Problem is: we don't need cheerleaders that will give us a false sense of hope. We need problem fixes for the long run: the hole in the ozone depletion that Reagan denied; climate change that the Regan's acolytes are now denying, social inequality that Reagan increased, etc.


AND we don't need detractors like the current President that goes around apologizing for America!

Sure, we are not perfect, but fighting for freedom often means picking the lesser of two evils.


By the lesser of two evils does that include the US overthrowing the democratically elected Presidents of Iran in 1953 and Guatemala in 1954, the Dominican Republic in 1964 and in the Norodom Sihanouk in Cambodia in 1970? Does it include the assassination of the democratically elected Prime Minister of the Congo, Patrice Lumumba, in 1961? Does it include "false flag" operations such as the Gulf of Tonkin incident that got us into the war in Vietnam? Does it include siding with the neo-facists in Greece in 1945 and interfering in the Greek elections in 1947? Does include the targeting of civil rights leaders, including Dr. King and the Black Panthers as well as leaders of the student and anti-war movements? Does it include running drugs (heroin during the Vietnam War and Cocaine from Latin America during the 1980s)? And, of course, I could go on with many other examples....

Is that your idea of "fighting for freedom"?
 
 
+9 # Activista 2013-05-23 16:40
fighting for freedom ... teaching the Russians what word freedom means?
The stupidity of Ronald Reagan. - Slate Magazine
www.slate.com/articles/news_and...words/.../not_even_a_hedgehog.html‎
Jun 7, 2004 – Ronald Reagan claimed that the Russian language had no word for "freedom." (The word is "svoboda"; it's quite well attested in Russian ...
 
 
+3 # suzyskier 2013-05-25 22:32
Well after 8 years of the Bush Cheney disaster someone needs to apologize for our past discretions, why not Obama? Geez America right or wrong ? I hoped never to hear that one again.
 
 
0 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-05-26 11:18
Good post!
 
 
+2 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-05-26 18:56
To Edge: El Barfo. "Fighting for freedom." Sara Palin (the nut-in-chief)sa id her son was fighting in Iraq "so that we may be free." Same old Republican bull shxx. While her son was fighting in Iraq, American families were being forced out of their homes by the banks. Or as Palin would say, "now they are free to live in the streets." How about what we really did? Fight to keep oil prices high. We need lithium. Afghanistan has it.
 
 
+1 # mdhome 2013-06-18 11:02
I bet you are unable to find anyplace where Obama apologized for America! It never happened. You need to switch channels on your TV.
 
 
+24 # dkonstruction 2013-05-23 09:18
Quoting edge:
Quoting Eldon J. Bloedorn:
He cheered for the rich Plutocrats. And he also cheered those who were mentally retarded "follow me" in math, science and economics.


YOU were not listening if you did not hear is message of "REAL" hope!
An economy that grew up until the DOT COM bubble burst under Clinton the First.


Wages for the overwhelming majority of workers in this country have been flat (when adjusted for inflation) since the early 1970s (i.e., long before Reagan) and this has continued until today so they myth that Reagan "fixed" the economy is simply bull. Not to mention that, with the firing of the air traffic controllers, Reagan began what has become the full frontal assault on unions in general and public employee unions in particular. And, of course let's not forget his illegal actions abroad (including Iran Contra, Guatemala, CIA drug running etc).

And, what caused the DOT COM bubble and why did it burst (I have never liked Clinton and he was responsible for many ills but he neither caused the DOT COM bubble to form nor did he cause it to burst).
 
 
+11 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-05-23 10:13
To: EDGE I suppose there is hope in "Fairy Dust." Also, When you say to others, "the sun is not real because last night it was dark," they will understand you, OK?
 
 
+8 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-05-23 11:37
To Edge: Well, that explains it. Also, the sun is not real because last night it was dark. What can one expect in America when our math and science students rank 25th in the world when our upper 25 % quartile is compared to the upper 25th % quartile in other nations? Ben Franklin: "he who believes in hope will die farting."
 
 
+17 # bmiluski 2013-05-23 13:45
Did you miss the recession we had under the first bush administration which was BEFORE the Clinton administration? Oh that's right, you had your head buried in a republican dung hill.
 
 
+1 # artic fox 2013-05-25 12:53
I recommend all who posted here to read:

http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/article/1038961--apocalyptic-crisis-budgeting
 
 
0 # mdhome 2013-06-18 11:13
Very good link, it says a lot about what has been happening and who did what.
 
 
+10 # bingers 2013-05-23 15:56
Quoting edge:
Quoting Eldon J. Bloedorn:
He cheered for the rich Plutocrats. And he also cheered those who were mentally retarded "follow me" in math, science and economics.


YOU were not listening if you did not hear is message of "REAL" hope!
An economy that grew up until the DOT COM bubble burst under Clinton the First.



And you forget that the term for the jobs created under Reagan was McJobs, minimum jobs with no benefits and no advancement possibilities. Under Clinton more jobs were created and they were far better ones. The fact that we had a bubble blow up was a consequence of Reagan's deregulations, not Clinton, although his corporatism and embrace of Republican piles of exrement like NAFTA, CAFTA, the repeal of Glass Steagall and passage of Gramm Leach Bliley have added to our current problems.
 
 
-15 # edge 2013-05-24 06:32
Quoting bingers:


And you forget that the term for the jobs created under Reagan was McJobs, minimum jobs with no benefits and no advancement possibilities.


JUST PLAIN OUT LIES!

This was the greatest expansion in the post WW11 american economy that brought emerging countries into the modern era!

You are just a hater!
 
 
+12 # dkonstruction 2013-05-24 09:25
Quoting edge:
Quoting bingers:


And you forget that the term for the jobs created under Reagan was McJobs, minimum jobs with no benefits and no advancement possibilities.


JUST PLAIN OUT LIES!

This was the greatest expansion in the post WW11 american economy that brought emerging countries into the modern era!

You are just a hater!


Then why did the wages of the vast majority of Americans continue to remain flat (or worse) throughout the Reagan Era (and in fact goes back to the days of Nixon in the early 1970s and has continued to this day). So, what's your definition of "expansion" when it benefits only the top 1 or 2%? You also do not individual debt at all? Wasn't much of this expansion (particularly in recent years) due to unsustainable personal debt (which was the direct results of wages staying flat)?

As for the "emerging countries" coming into the "modern era" -- well, this just sounds like Thomas Friedman's mindless cheerleading for the wonders of globalization. He too never mentions debt, or the estimated 10,000 strikes per year by Chinese Workers, or the conditions in the factories in the vast majority of these "emerging countries" not to mention the cost in terms of human health and environmental degradation.
 
 
+15 # intheEPZ 2013-05-23 01:44
Quoting universlman:
Reagan - Best damn cheerleader the nation ever had.

No, that was Shrub.
 
 
+8 # balconesfalk 2013-05-23 08:49
More like ringleaders than cheerleaders, both of them. Ringleaders have to force the players in the show to do things they might not do on their own for the money generated by the entertainment value. Cheerleaders just pump up the spectators, they don't enslave man and animal.
 
 
+13 # rockieball 2013-05-23 08:17
RAH, RAH, RAH, Sis Bah, California Oranges, Texas cactus, I screwed the country just for practice."
 
 
+28 # tomo 2013-05-22 22:19
As I write, I look at a red mark for universlman's comment that Reagan was a great cheerleader. I'm not sure what to make of the red mark. The reason it is nearly impossible to demythologize Ronald Reagan is because he told us what we seem always to want to hear--that we are a city on a hill, that God invented the sun so it could shine on us; and other things along that line. The reason this is so disconcerting is because it almost always proves to be the preface to egregious efforts of self-aggrandize ment on our part at other peoples' expense. When will we ever learn? Perhaps never; or only as some drunk's binge comes to an end when finally he crashes into the stump of a tree and spills his brains all over his upholstery.
 
 
+43 # Robert B 2013-05-22 22:24
Reagan was hell-bent on starting a war with somebody, ANYBODY. Sometimes I thought he thought he was playing a video game, much as GW Bush seemed to be, rather than actually pursuing some sensible political principle. Reagan was a very unstable President. His popularity is very much misplaced.
 
 
+12 # bmiluski 2013-05-23 13:48
Can someone explain to me why we attacked Granada?
 
 
+1 # mdhome 2013-06-18 11:08
We attacked Grenada because Reagan wanted to be a "war president".
 
 
+19 # Generalfeldmarschall von Hindenburg 2013-05-22 22:42
I've seen comments from people who knew him personally that he was pretty out of it during the genocide. But it's ironic, since if he'd been 'in it', and sharp as a tack, it would have been perfectly in character for Reagan to be even more enthusiastic about Rios-Montt. The Japanese in Nanking back in 37 would have thought they were looking in a mirror.
 
 
+32 # PABLO DIABLO 2013-05-22 23:14
Too bad ALL the reagan?Bush co-conspirators (his entire cabinet) got a full pardon from Bush daddy even before the Iran/Contra Report was issued. Worst bunch of scumbags ever. Take back our government. Try George Herbert Walker Bush. He couldn't pardon himself three weeks before he left office.
 
 
+50 # DUKETYPE 2013-05-22 23:22
Dig up Reagan and ship his stinking corpse to The Hague. Then go after Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, and the rest of that wretched gang of crooks and liars.
 
 
+23 # Cdesignpdx 2013-05-22 23:28
This isn't a right or left issue. We have no right to impose death upon any single human being. Committing, or aiding and abetting are crimes. I am sorry, too, that we now are using drones. For whatever their purpose, killing should not be one of them. EVER.
 
 
+31 # bingers 2013-05-22 23:58
And one of the worst presidents as well.
 
 
+19 # grouchy 2013-05-23 01:30
Oh what a bloody and disgusting history we have! Shall we continue the tradition? :-)
 
 
+21 # Activista 2013-05-23 02:01
Wonder if there is ANY lawyer - movement - here - in the USA to prosecute these criminals?
downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/.../how-bush-family-pulled-strings-behi...‎
Jan 11, 2008 – ... William Casey, Henry Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft and Oliver North, ... Brazil, Cameroon, China, Colombia, the Congo, Ghana, Guatemala, ...
 
 
+22 # abdullahiedward 2013-05-23 04:50
Sure glad to see so many negative comments about Ronald Reagan and his gang of thieves even though they're 30 years too late. I think the late great Muammar Gaddafi described RR best. He said "We know Ronald Reagan, he's an American actor."
The question Americans need to ask is "whose role was he playing?" They're the power elite minority that still controls the country. If you don't think there's a "power behind the throne" in America just take a look at ObamaI's campaign promises and compare them with what he has actually been "allowed" to do.
 
 
+10 # no jojo 2013-05-23 05:15
good morning good morning--I got bad news for you all--The Demos are also war criminals. How odd here, it is apparent that Repugs are badder than bad but the Bill Clinton, Obama,even JFK, Truman and a host of other Presidents escape exposure. Yes, Jimmy had faults but paid dearly for supporting Palestine.Knife s were out--high oil prices, interest rates 21% just before 2nd election. Aty least Jimmy didn't get killed as did JFK over banning nukes for our little darling ally in the middle East
 
 
+13 # Activista 2013-05-23 12:15
Yes - Jimmy Carter was the last US president with morals ... and he dared to write Israel Apartheid ...
Note that he is persona non grata in Democrat power structure since Bill Clinton
- till today Obama ... google bit to find who is paying to censor Carter ...
 
 
+36 # walt 2013-05-23 07:04
As years go by we see more and more shames of the Reagan administration. That's the same Reagan that Republicans claim as their great hero. And the same Reagan who told the country that government is the problem!
 
 
+3 # bmiluski 2013-05-23 13:51
And the same reagan who could never get nominated by his own party because he's too liberal.
 
 
+14 # fredboy 2013-05-23 07:43
Reagan not only destroyed other nations, he also destroyed his own. And helped destroy Christianity.
 
 
+32 # rockieball 2013-05-23 08:29
Anyone who thinks Reagan was a great President should be in an asylum. Add Iran/guns for hostages, Silverrado S$L, changing the FCC laws that allowed Fox and Murdock to make up and twist news with no equal time for the truth, deregulation of banks, privatizing public utilities to when today we are paying 10 times more with little or no say so. Even a vulture would not eat on his body, they have to good of taste. He stands right up their with Maggie.
 
 
+28 # drew 2013-05-23 09:41
Don't forget that Reagan also doubled the national debt, attacked unions and started the OUTRAGEOUS anti-government rhetoric that plagues us today (feeding the bona fide INSANITY of House Republicans who have rendered our government dysfunctional)!
 
 
+13 # bingers 2013-05-23 15:48
Quoting drew:
Don't forget that Reagan also doubled the national debt, attacked unions and started the OUTRAGEOUS anti-government rhetoric that plagues us today (feeding the bona fide INSANITY of House Republicans who have rendered our government dysfunctional)!


In fact, he tripled the debt, Bush doubled it.
 
 
+20 # drew 2013-05-23 09:36
Reagan ushered in the era of war criminal Presidents, Trickle Down economics (the end results of which we're suffering in our CURRENT economy), strengthening the military-indust rial complex (rather than keeping it in check as Eisenhower rightly advised), burying us in debt & deficit, corporate ownership of our government, toxic politics and destroying the environment. I'm so ready for Civil War-II. Republicans have destroyed the Country and the planet.
 
 
+22 # fredboy 2013-05-23 11:46
Reagan was one of our most angry and vicious presidents. My editor spent a day interviewing him and was shocked: in public, Reagan shared that grand, friendly manner. "But as soon as he got on the plane and the door shut he was vicious," he told us. "And insulting. To me, to other journalists, and to his staff. A real Jekyll and Hyde type."

As a journalist I covered several key Reagan administration actions--his war on the environment, his firing of the air traffic controllers (who were at wits end trying to warn the government that the equipment they were using was outdated and dangerous to the flying public), and his "600 ship Navy." All vicious, destructive grandstanding. And his closing of the mental care centers, creating what we now call our "homeless problem"--in one day our city went from zero to more than 700 "street people", troubled souls forced to leave their mental treatment centers.

If there is a heaven and hell, Reagan is frying right now. The man never had a soul.
 
 
+10 # Terrapin 2013-05-23 17:41
I have to give a big "Thank You" for your comment.
I would like to add to the very incomplete list of this PHONEY
actions: "If it takes a BLOODBATH let's get over with."
This shit was totally willing to murder Cal/Berkeley students for daring to execising their Constutional Right to Free Speech.
I guess I took it kinda personally ...
I have BonnieRonnie® to thank for initiating my departure from consensus political reality.
Rot in Hell ... you SOULESS MF!
 
 
+19 # X Dane 2013-05-23 11:57
The problem with Reagan is the problem with a great many Americans, who WANTS to be told that we are GREAT. ANYBODY who has the nerve to point out, that we have many problems will be shouted down. We DON'T want to hear that.

Reagan was first and foremost an ACTOR. He KNEW his audience. He KNEW what they wanted AND HE GAVE IT TO THEM!!

"Shining city on the hill", (he stole that from somebody else) and "Morning in America" was exactly what his audience wanted to hear.

When people were demoralized and depressed at the time the country was, and pretty words make them feel better, particularly delivered by an actor with practice. Reagan's AW SHUKS manner made him seem so comfortable to too many.

His greatest role was playing president. Too bad it was so awful for the country and several other countries also.
 
 
+15 # X Dane 2013-05-23 12:17
Continued.
At the time anticommunism was rampant and Reagan sure was anticommunist. If Rios Mott in Guatemala killed communist, he was a hero to Reagan, and if he also killed a lot of innocent people? ...........That is the cost of fighting Communism....Is n't it??

At least he did not want to HEAR about it. Reagan simply did not want to see or hear anything he didn't like. And anybody going against him...was mowed down, as the air controllers found out.......and the unions he fought.

Isn't it incredible, when you remember that he was head of the actor's union???
Also he hated and denigrated government, while expanding it enormously.

One of the ugliest and biggest government buildings in Washington DC bears his name. Great irony. He was Robin Hood in reverse, as many old, and many poor people found out. He took from them and gave to the rich. Saint Reagan?? HUH!
 
 
+18 # Majikman 2013-05-23 13:43
To this day I do not say "reagan" National Airport.
 
 
+15 # bingers 2013-05-23 15:52
As to that "head of the actor's union" Jim Garner long ago noted that he had no idea what he was talking about and that they had to prop him up and tell him what to say.

It's no coincidence that there were more than 100 felony indictments on White House advisors.
 

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