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Gibson writes: "If you're on Twitter, chances are your trending topics box has #Benghazi at or near the top. That means Fox News and the right-wing corporate media are succeeding in getting both the left and the right to squabble over an issue that was dragged through the mud months ago in a cheap attempt to politicize a tragedy."

Senator Elizabeth Warren is making noise, but Benghazi is stealing the headlines. (photo: Andrew Harrer/Getty Images)
Senator Elizabeth Warren is making noise, but Benghazi is stealing the headlines. (photo: Andrew Harrer/Getty Images)



Benghazi: The Shiny Object Distracting Us from Elizabeth Warren

By Carl Gibson, Reader Supported News

09 May 13

 

f you haven’t yet seen "Wag the Dog," go watch it right now. I’ll wait. And don’t worry, this article isn’t actually about Benghazi, but something that really matters.

The movie is about how the art of manipulation is used by the media to distract people from events of actual importance. It was cited regularly when the GOP had their Clinton witch hunt. The GOP’s latest witch hunt over Benghazi is simply more wagging of the dog. Fox News is trying really, really hard to make it into Obama’s Watergate to keep us all distracted from some incredibly populist moves in the Senate.

Elizabeth Warren’s first official bill of the 113th Congress, the Bank on Student Loan Fairness Act, is her first big salvo against the Wall Street and Federal Reserve banking cartel that controls our government. She’s made headlines during banking committee hearings, where she’s exposed the fact that the government's Wall Street regulators are simply tools used by Wall Street to pilfer more money from the people. She turned heads when calling for a $22 an hour minimum wage in another hearing. She even got Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke to agree that "Too-Big-to-Fail" banks should be broken up. Now she’s introducing a bill that says if the banks that wrecked our economy and multinational corporations can borrow billions at a 0.75% interest rate, then students should be able to get those same rates when pursuing a higher education.

Apple exploited this obviously rigged system earlier this month when it borrowed $17 billion from the Federal Reserve at the preferential interest rate, then used it to enrich their own executives and dodge $9 billion in taxes. Banks borrow regularly at that same rate from the Fed to make risky bets on Wall Street. But this Summer, students with federal Stafford loans will see their interest rates double from 3.4% to 6.8%. The banks aren’t creating anything real, just imaginary financial instruments. But ensuring that more people have access to a college education will only improve society in the long run. So why are we bleeding poor students dry while giving big banks preferential treatment?

If you’re on Twitter, chances are your trending topics box has #Benghazi at or near the top. That means Fox News and the right-wing corporate media are succeeding in getting both the left and the right to squabble over an issue that was dragged through the mud months ago in a cheap attempt to politicize a tragedy. There were 60 deaths at U.S. embassies and consulates during the Bush administration, and there were zero outraged Republicans having hearings about it. The House GOP is obviously playing along with the corporate-owned spin machine’s game of smoke and mirrors. It’s largely a frantic attempt by the corporations running our government to steer attention away from the populist resistance to corporate rule that’s slowly and steadily sweeping all over the country.

Our goal should be to make #BankOnStudents the new top trend on Twitter, and spread word about Warren’s bold new bill far and wide. Call your senators and demand they support it if they want your vote. Let’s help Elizabeth Warren stick it to the banks and the corporate tyrants and refuse to get distracted by the shiny objects they flash at us.



Carl Gibson, 25, is co-founder of US Uncut, a nationwide creative direct-action movement that mobilized tens of thousands of activists against corporate tax avoidance and budget cuts in the months leading up to the Occupy Wall Street movement. Carl and other US Uncut activists are featured in the documentary "We're Not Broke," which premiered at the 2012 Sundance Film Festival. He currently lives in Madison, Wisconsin. You can contact him at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , and follow him on twitter at @uncutCG.

Reader Supported News is the Publication of Origin for this work. Permission to republish is freely granted with credit and a link back to Reader Supported News.

 

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-42 # BradFromSalem 2013-05-09 11:14
The excuse the pseudo liberal media (e.g.) MSNBC uses to cover Benghazi as THE most important thing playing at the Congressional Theater of the Absurd is that Benghazi is really about stopping Hillary. Really? The only people that give a rats ass about Hillary running in 2016 is the liberal establishment. They care because they want to be relevant. In reality, they are about as relevant as the Republican outreach to women and Hispanics.

There are Progressive motions and bills introduced into both the House and the Senate with more frequency than the Republicans introducing a bill to ban abortions or repeal Obamcare combined.

Why not run a segment on the MSNBC at 7 pm every night and spend the appropriate time on each one. For example, The House passed a bill today to repeal Obamacare. Again. Followed by Warren introduces a scool loan interest reduction bill. Spend the next 20 minutes explaining it and another 20 debating it.

By the way I picked that time slot so MSNBC would have to get rid of at least one of the Chris Mathews bullshit hours.

The trick to not being the dog that is being wagged is just change the subject to what is relevant and stop telling me that the Republicasn are being irrelevant. Report what is and people will figure it out on their own.
 
 
+18 # BradFromSalem 2013-05-09 11:55
Wow. Take a pot shot at MSNBC, Hillary and Chris Mathews and you are immediately inundated with pile of red thumbs!

Thanks!
 
 
+5 # Cassandra2012 2013-05-12 14:28
The response equivalent to mindless Benghazi repetitions is WMDs, WMDs, WMDs, WMDs.

...

...

...

WMDs, ... .
 
 
+42 # coach777b 2013-05-09 12:39
" Report what is and people will figure it out on their own."
Your problem is that those reports show that this whole "BenGhazi Affair" is a fiasco, driven by republicans in their attempt to throw mud at the President, the State Department and Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, you were unable to see the truth in your zeal to cheer on your team. You gave the game away when you voiced your personal hatred of MSNBC and Chris Matthews.
 
 
-32 # JackB 2013-05-09 14:42
That's what the reports show? Divine Barry & the team screwed up & people died. The "Let's save Divine Barry's ass" zib zab won't change that. I expect it will come down as just another example of workplace violence.

BradfromSalem didn't voice any hated of MSNBC or Matthews. He called Matthews' time on the air bullshit hours. That is a critique not an indication of hatred. Personally I think he was being kind but I suspect that by being an acolyte in the Divine Barry Adoration Society Matthews is a demigod to the folks on this board.
 
 
+34 # BradFromSalem 2013-05-09 17:30
JackB,

Thanks for the support. But very few of us thinking lefties are, as you call us, acolytes in Divine Barry Society. In fact I believe such an organization only lives inside that crazy, whacky Right Wing World.
 
 
-16 # JackB 2013-05-11 09:17
Last night on ABC (hardly a hotbed of Conservative thought) they put together a montage of Jay Carney's "explanations" of the Benghazi incident. He did not repeat himself. The explanations kept changing. Without making an outright accusation they brought out the fact that the incident happened during the campaign & it has been argued (not by them) the intent of muddying the waters was to protect Obama & his campaign.

I believe the actual distraction here is Gibson tying Warren to Benghazi. He wants the incident swept under the rug. If Divine Barry & the administration are really pure & undefiled in the Benghazi affair then let's have a thorough investigation. Appoint a special prosecutor. If Barry & the boys are lying the public has a right to know.

Nothing to do with Warren's efforts. Nothing.
 
 
+22 # BradFromSalem 2013-05-09 17:25
Coach777b,

What "team" do you think I belong on? Because I criticized the very argument that you make, do you believe that I am a Right Wing crazy? I have no personal hatred of MSNBC or Mathews, I just believe that they are at best the lame Liberal establishment that has allowed 10 years of opportunity to remake America into something it was before the crazy Right Wing fooled people into believing voodoo economics based on fuzzy math. And the point about Hillary is, in my opinion, exactly what the article is about. The meme that the entire Benghazi thing is a Republican attack on Hillary in 2016 is the shiny diversion. While the real story is that Elizabeth Warren has proposed legislation that actually will help people. I pointed out Chris Mathews' program is bullshit is because I just honestly believe he is an overrated blowhard.

So, again, what team am I on?
 
 
+3 # Regina 2013-05-09 21:41
The Society of Schizophrenics.
 
 
+19 # robniel 2013-05-10 07:50
The republican "Ben Ghazi Affair" is run by a high school dropout (Darrell Issa) who has been arrested several times for car theft and has had numerous complaints lodged against him as a congressman. So what's his motive?
 
 
+27 # BradFromSalem 2013-05-10 11:25
Simple.

His motive is to distract everyone from learning about potential ideas for solving fiscal issues that are coming from the Left. By continually submitting legislation that is not going anywhere such as the repeal of Obamacare to holding hearings on issues that they have been briefed on its all a distraction.

Nothing there. That IS the agenda. The motive is to keep people thinking that Congress are all incompetent, and don't do anything. When the truth is, the Progressive Caucus especially has been proposing strong doable legislation, and nobody is talking about it.
 
 
+48 # CarlGibson 2013-05-09 12:45
Quoting BradFromSalem:
The excuse the pseudo liberal media (e.g.) MSNBC uses to cover Benghazi as THE most important thing playing at the Congressional Theater of the Absurd is that Benghazi is really about stopping Hillary. Really? The only people that give a rats ass about Hillary running in 2016 is the liberal establishment.


I couldn't agree more, Brad. I'd love to see a woman president, just not Hillary. It'd be another four years of Obama. And I, for one, have had my fill of corporate-frien dly DNC types pretending to be populist while waging unnecessary wars and cheering on environmental destruction like the tar sands pipeline.
 
 
+22 # BradFromSalem 2013-05-09 17:35
Thanks Carl

I don't really mind all those folks giving me a thumbs down, but I really wish they would explain themselves. I realize I probably could have written my comment somewhat more coherently, but that's life in comment land. I am in total agreement about the corporate-frien dly DNC types that are nothing more than Republican lite. We have been trying that through 3 1/2 Democratic administrations and the results are official. It don't work.
 
 
+65 # MainStreetMentor 2013-05-09 13:29
It would appear that BradFromSalem is trying to further the very point the article makes: Point fingers elsewhere in an attempt to distract from the REAL issue. Senator Warren DOES have her finger on the correct issues - she's provided more than one potential solution to those same issues. Americans have learned the twisted tactics of the extreme right - and because of the very real, very clear enlightenment of issue defined and pin-pointed by Senator Warren - distractions ain't-a-gonna-w ork this time!
 
 
+20 # BradFromSalem 2013-05-09 17:49
MSM,

That is exactly what I was talking about. Just wondering, how come you support my comment and get a plus 19, while I have a -30?

Obviously, this woman cannot change the course all by herself. She will need the help of the non existent liberal media. And as long as MSNBC is just the anti-Fox network they will continue to be a nonfactor. Nobody, excuse me, NOBODY in the Main Stream Media is presenting the alternate proposals being presented in Congress. And I partially blame MSNBC for taking up too much time telling me the false stories on Fox.
 
 
-15 # aljknapp 2013-05-09 18:18
W#hat planet are you living on??????????
 
 
+29 # ganymede 2013-05-09 19:26
Brad,I usually appreciate your comments but I think your anger got the best of you. Benghazi is BS and most of 'us' know this. The rightwingers don't give a shit for any life lost anywhere. Bush gave us outrage after outrage and the rightwingers didn't wince once. We are stuck with the Democrats and its our job to get more Eliz Warrens into Congress and get the rightwing Republicans and yellow dog Democrats out. As disappointing as Obama is, he's not half as bad as the left makes him out to be - he's just caught in the system like most of us, but he is maleable and with pressure will improve. The Republicans, even with all their money can't get any traction so our course of action should be to keep up the pressure on the President and the fairly large number of progressive Democrats. All this left infighting isn't helping at all. The US is going down fast and we should at least try to slow down our decline until better left leadership emerges, as it will.
 
 
+13 # BradFromSalem 2013-05-10 04:29
Ganymede,

Thank you for your kind words. But especially for explaining why you may have disagreed with my post. I am not sure, but I think you do understand that I was amplyfing Carl Gibson's point about Benghazi being a "shiny object". Or in other words, as you say; BS.

But, my other statements were not to be construed as anything other than exactly what yoyu say. I have over the years taken the exact positions you state. First, we must get more like Warren in Congress. But beyond that, I do understand realpolitk limitations that Obama faces, but it is my opinion that he is not of a mind to challenge that status quo. That's a criticism that says I believe is pointed toward we can do better. And to me, Hillary and Obama are pretty much cut from the same cloth.
But the main thrust of criticism is directed toward MSNBC. I think that is what really set people off. There are very good people on the network, and the do report liberal issues way more than any other network other than possibly Current. But I see their agenda as the watchdog over all things Right Wing, especially Fox. Its time for them to step up the game. As long as they focus much of their discussion about what is being reported on Fox, they have no true brand of their own. And to be redundant, giving Chris Mathews 2 hours a day is ridiculous. He adds very little insight, is usually wrong, and verbally bullies his guests with only occasional results.
 
 
+5 # tonenotvolume 2013-05-09 20:58
BSF - Your many thumbs-down probably stem from your individualized position. Most readers can't tell where you stand so even though you state your opinion, most of us see the anger and frustration as tilting towards the crazies. Your later posts help explain things a bit more clearly but if we were voting today, I don't know whose sign would be in your front yard except one that read "Don't vote for the lame liberal establishment and anyone Chris Matthew supports".
 
 
+8 # BradFromSalem 2013-05-10 05:30
tonenotvolume,

yes, I am angry that there is no media outlet for Progressive positions. And I do agree that I did not write that original post very well. I cannot see how one gets that I in anyway tilt toward crazy? I took a shot at MSNBC? Because they come the closest to examining Liberal issues honestly, they are immune?

Just to clarify, I started out with calling MSNBC pseudo liberals. Is that something that the Righties would call them? If someone called Fox pseudo conservatives, I would assume that they think they are not conservative enough.

And FYI, when faced with a choice between a lame liberal establishment type and anyone with any allegience to the Right Wing I will vote for the lame liberal.
 
 
+6 # RMDC 2013-05-12 05:36
The only people who give a rat's ass about some rat ass CIA agent getting killed in Benghazi are republicans and their mass media tools.

Gibson is right. There are important issues out there and the pseudo-story of Benghazi is not one of them.

The mass media really does use the "look here; don't look there" technique of propaganda. It gives americans constant non-issues in order to consume their time and distract them from what is really important.
 
 
+95 # PABLO DIABLO 2013-05-09 12:17
Elizabeth Warren for President in 2016. Wake up America.
 
 
+12 # soularddave 2013-05-09 20:09
I don't really remember what the issues were in Congress during the bush years, besides war stuff and financial stuff. Please remind me what the junior Senator from Illinois was doing then.

Seems like Sen. Warren is being pretty pro-active, and positioning herself for further political office.

More power to her! She's promoting the Progressive Agenda that's been ignored for too long. Why does it seem like she's doing this on her own? I'm writing my Democrat representatives and urging them to actively support what Elizabeth Warren is advancing.

I imagine the Rethuglicans will catch on shortly, and observe the POWERHOUSE that Hillary and/or Elizabeth could present in a presidential contest in 2016. Never misunderestimat e...
 
 
-100 # Robt Eagle 2013-05-09 12:31
So the four true patriotic Americans killed in Benghazi are just trash for the left to throw away? COme on...Benghazi is a full blown cover-up of Hillary's incompetence and lack of caring for her people; and Obama's utter failure of foreign policy and his getting re-elected at any cost including American lives. The details are shocking, the rhetoric of the left is utterly futile, but will continue as they belittle the true heros out there. The two former Navy SEALs who gave their lives could have had additional back up from Special Forces in Tripoli and were told to "stand down", only Hillary and/or Obama could have given those orders! Furthermore there was a C-130 with possible weapons available to assist the SEALs in defending themselves, but they too were told to stand down. That is really troublesome, don't you think???
 
 
+37 # Anarchist 23 2013-05-09 12:56
Interesting, Robt Eagle, Are you now prepared to consider that 9/11 was an inside job, that the assassinations of the 60's were all part of a grand strategy? Why stop with Benghazi or start with it? Check out 9/11 Truth-great info! Prepare to enter 'the looking glass' the 'hall of mirrors' of secret history! Or just watch some movies-'Good Shepherd' 'Tinker, Tailor'-read about spies-because reality as presently unfolding is a lot more about that now than ever before.
 
 
-20 # edge 2013-05-09 16:10
9/11 truthers belong in the same class as the birthers!

QUACK, QUACK, QUACK...complet e Looney Tunes!
Say hi to Mickey and Minnie cuz you a F'ing Goofy!
 
 
+3 # tm7devils 2013-05-09 20:02
If you believe the story re: 9/11, that the government and the media gave the American people, when there is copious amounts of evidence belieing it...then you are the who believes in the Tooth Fairy. Do us all a favor - don't vote.
 
 
-3 # soularddave 2013-05-09 20:17
Think about what you allow yourself to know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tXnQoFeVQII
 
 
+16 # SusanT136 2013-05-11 05:17
Quoting Robt Eagle:
So the four true patriotic Americans killed in Benghazi are just trash for the left to throw away? COme on...Benghazi is a full blown cover-up of Hillary's incompetence and lack of caring for her people; and Obama's utter failure of foreign policy and his getting re-elected at any cost including American lives.


There were 60 people killed at US embassies around the world during Pres Bush's tenure. Terrorists attacked US embassies 12 times during Bush's Presidency; at least 8 of those while Rumsfeld was Sec of Defense, compared to 2 attacks under Pres Obama. Yet Rummy has said we were attacked in Benghazi because of "American weakness". Huh?

Why don't you go read the "troublesome" details of these incidents that happened under Bush? I'm sure you could find a conspiracy there too since that appears to be what you see wherever you look. Especially since there were 4 attacks, yes FOUR, on the US Embassy in Karachi under Bush, the last one killing an American diplomat (previous attacks had killed approx 14 Pakistanis, no Americans). I sense cover up - why didn't they take previous attacks more seriously, who was responsible etc etc

Benghazi was a tragedy. There's no conspiracy or cover up. It's shameful that it's being used now in a political game to distract from progressive legislation proposed by Elizabeth Warren and others.
 
 
+8 # karenvista 2013-05-11 18:49
Robert Eagle-http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/11/02/wsj-state-dept-and-cia-had-secret-botched-deal-for-benghazi-security/

Everyone who wants to know what really happened in Bengazi has known since the first article in WAPO was published in Oct. 2012. There were 30 CIA agents in Bengazi for a covert op. They were supposed to protect the Ambassador, who had gone to Bengazi to meet with them, or so the State Dept. thought. CIA said there was a "misunderstandi ng." Since the Bengazi action was a covert op, the administration and State can't divulge what was going on. If they did the Republicans would say that they were leaking National Security information. Since they can't discuss that, and the Republicans know they can't, because it was a bipartisan congressional hearing where the CIA officer who was testifying let the information slip-they hold perpetual hearings hoping someone will make a mistake and say something they can use against Hillary. I wouldn't vote for Hillary. I think she's a warmonger, but we do need to have a functioning government and stop this stupid delaying tactic. I would love to see Elizabeth Warren as president but the oligarchs would never let it happen.
 
 
+5 # dovelane1 2013-05-12 00:02
Mr. Eagle,

And when the 60 people were killed under Bush's regime, where were you then, and what, and how much did you have to say at that time?

How many investigations did you call for then? Focusing solely on this one, as I assume you are, makes you look a bit on the hypocritical side, with a political axe to grind.
 
 
+3 # Cassandra2012 2013-05-12 14:34
And when the 'WMD' bs /lies kept being repeated, where was your outrage THEN?
 
 
+84 # kalpal 2013-05-09 12:41
Nobody in the right wing wants any attention paid to Sentor Warren. She is dangerous because she speaks truth and truth is taboo in right wing circles. It is far more important to distract the zero intellect, no information right wing base from paying any attention to someone who might improve their lives.
 
 
+57 # mgwmgw 2013-05-09 12:48
Does anyone know whether what happened in Benghazi was the result of budget cuts in security advocated primarily by Republicans? If so, why is this not mentioned whenever criticism of Obama or Ms. Clinton are implied?
 
 
+39 # Charles3000 2013-05-09 12:51
Benghazi was a failure of diplomatic customs. It is the responsibility of the host country to protect diplomats in their country, not the home country of the diplomats.
 
 
+13 # Working Class 2013-05-09 15:26
Quoting Charles3000:
Benghazi was a failure of diplomatic customs. It is the responsibility of the host country to protect diplomats in their country, not the home country of the diplomats.

I am sure the right wing would be perfectly ok with China and other counties having elements of their military patrol the neighborhoods in the US where they have embassy and consulate operations. Right? They are implying that host countries should yield to the idea that our military should be able to move freely about their country. So are they willing to allow other militaries to move freely around the US? That’s not how it works in the diplomatic world, but hey never let an opportunity to bash, slash and burn pass. Wouldn’t be a shame if the Right put the same energy into addressing the problems facing average Americans? Don’t hold your breath America.
 
 
+12 # cafetomo 2013-05-09 12:54
Even the Daily Show goes on about FOX being so comedic in insisting for so long that something is about to appear. Shiny, funny, ridiculous, we are amused. They may let Liz have a few peanuts, but only for an example to point to, so they can spend less on telling us how reasonable they are in going through our pockets, but not fondling your junk.

Our Stafford loan has always been at 6%, so it would seem ours was been stepped on a bit, before it got to us. I'm betting the last thing they will do is let us refinance out of exploitative interest rates, when they already have the hook in. The real surprise comes when you find what six years of college education and a masters degree actually gets you.

Hint: What rhymes with squit?
 
 
+25 # Rayzor 2013-05-09 14:38
300 million in cuts to diplomatic security.. hmmm, I wonder who was behind those cuts? Also, Congress in full charge of Republicans both pre-invasion: Hans Blix and inspectors yanked from Iraq.. and run-up: smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud; no nukes NO oversight hearings! The difference: A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT The best part of the piece though is anticipating Republicans trying to rationalize why students shouldn't get the 0.75% that the banks get, While speaking from the well of the Senate.Ought to be riveting viewing
 
 
+18 # WallStWallFlowerGirl 2013-05-09 15:01
I thirst for thorough, fair, non-partisan inquiries into Capitol Hill malfeasance; this country is shamefully hypocritical when it goes after other countries but turns the other way to our own "public servants." But today's Rethuglicans don't want fair & they don't play fair. Not only have they gone on PUBLIC RECORD stating their #1 goal is to obstruct Obama w/every chance to see him fail, but what they allowed Bush to desecrate in eight years they've gone out for blood beginning day one for Obama.

I believe our youth are smarter than the best the far-right propagandists have to offer and will deny their magic beans- and I think the Rethuglicans know this. The louder they get, the more desperate they are; may everything they cherish- avarice, arrogance and hypocrisy- be the ingredients of their own demise.
 
 
-2 # moafu@yahoo.com 2013-05-09 15:37
Carl Gibson, you said it well about Elizabeth. US banks are doing same thing Cyprus did to depositors, but in an underhanded way. Cyprus just stole openly. The Fed lends at .075 to banks and then banks give less to depositors, and charge inordinate rates - raking in the money that should be paid on the deposits which they leverage as "overnight depository receipts" !

Henry Ford said it best almost 100 years ago: "If the American public knew how the Federal Reserve Bank works, there would be revolution in the streets by morning".

By the way, Carl, "wag" with manipulation?
You mean like President Obama did during the '12 campaign by calling attention to Romney's 15% tax rate (all the while he was only paying 18%)......still less than his secretaries !!
 
 
+15 # Cabell 2013-05-09 16:05
MY PRAYER... Please God let Elizabeth Warren be running for President in 2014 by leaving a trail of legislative breadcrumbs: gifts of reason and fairness for America that lead straight to the White House.
 
 
+13 # Walter J Smith 2013-05-09 20:00
I love it: "Elizabeth Warren’s first official bill of the 113th Congress, the Bank on Student Loan Fairness Act, is her first big salvo against the Wall Street and Federal Reserve banking cartel that controls our government. She’s made headlines during banking committee hearings, where she’s exposed the fact that the government's Wall Street regulators are simply tools used by Wall Street to pilfer more money from the people. She turned heads when calling for a $22 an hour minimum wage in another hearing. She even got Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke to agree that "Too-Big-to-Fai l" banks should be broken up. Now she’s introducing a bill that says if the banks that wrecked our economy and multinational corporations can borrow billions at a 0.75% interest rate, then students should be able to get those same rates when pursuing a higher education."

I hope Elizabeth Warren keeps up her current pace. She will leave that Wall Street banana slug, Hillary Clinton, retired at "the Foundation," right where the whole world needs her to stay. Encourage her to write more and more memoirs - she has, after all, proven that women can be equally as big fumblers as men. That is a whole book's worth.

Elizabeth Warren, however, isn't interested in the kleptocratic path to heaven. She is in heaven, and she is practicing being a respectable angel. Something neither Clinton can imagine. Nor both of them working together.
 
 
+2 # barbaratodish 2013-05-09 22:30
I want to agree with Carl Gibson and I want to support Elizabeth Warren's current bill, BUT most of US higher education is, itself, "smoke and mirrors". I have seen too many so called professors, tenured and non tenured, adjunct faculty, as well, just show movies to their students, or worse do "power point" presentations that were so full of jargon that they were incomprehensibl e. Professors, Instructors, etc., are dumbed down and dumbing down our already zombiefied higher ed stuudents. Perhaps US students SHOULD get low interest loans, though, and to give the US higher ed system the wake up call it needs, maybe these students need to be able to use their Stafford and other loans to attend foriegn colleges like in CHINA,etc., where higher education's real values: curiosity, creativity and innovation are allowed to emerge, be maintained, and enhanced, as much, or more so than in the US. Most of US higher ed )especially in poor urban areas, is, or is fast becoming IMHO, an expansion of the K-12 warehousing of students.
 
 
+12 # Shea Brown 2013-05-10 13:02
As for MSNBC,,, have all of us forgotten it is operated by G.E. , the third largest defense contractor ? Does G.E. benefit greatly from progressive common sense discussions? Methinks not. Great posts here today,, I'd like to see discussions this relevant on MSNBC !!
 
 
+1 # Cassandra2012 2013-05-12 14:36
Does GE ever pay taxes?
 
 
-3 # Beverly Jo 2013-05-10 15:13
Relative to the "shining object distracting", the glare of white on dark marble behind Warren complements the white of her suit--not a distraction at all.
Apple makes a necessary product, the citizens of the nation need badly. Online literacy is more essential than swallows over Capistrano. Surely, a displacement for OIL and gas waste, Asphalt causing global warming contributing to flooding, incessant, uncanny rain and obesity. When citizens have reasons to learn--earn education or have government mandate minimal education-- which they cannot do driving over asphalt in Autos that fund only men and their big machines, most fraudulent illnesses will end which will replenish the US Treasury with taxes from earned income. Relative to student loan interest, I do declare, 6% is really not very much, especially since a college degree triples a graduate's earning potential.
 
 
+1 # dovelane1 2013-05-12 00:24
Ms. Jo,

Some interesting comments.

I'm not sure that I would go so far as to say asphalt causesglobal warming, but I would agree it is a large part of the problem. Apple's product may be somewhat necessary, but how their product is made, what it is made from, who makes it, how the components are shipped to the plants that make them, and how they are shipped after making them, (over asphalt, most likely,) all of these things are part of the problem.

The Apple company, to my knowledge at this point in time, is no saint. To my knowledge, there are very few corporations, if any, that would qualify for sainthood. How much leeway do we give these people? Where do we draw the line, especially when so many people's survival is dependent on asphalt?

I don't know that things will change until our basic survival, (like the shipping of food, for instance,) isn't dependent on asphalt.

Also, you didn't mention over-population as a major factor, if not the primary factor, in every problem we currently face. Were does that enter into your analysis of our problems?
 
 
-10 # BKnowswhitt 2013-05-10 16:36
Obama is a terrible communicator and i'm not talking about speech making that is something different. His admin made a grave mistake not securing that embassy amid the warnings. Though i believe his mistake was based on poor advice to hand over security to the locals to make it appear to be progress on our part. It was a real bad mistake. HillBillery may very well be as bad as DumbYa - why? Because neither could attain the presidency on their own. And both only attain because of their family connections. Though i like Bill Clinton a lot - Obama is not near him at all in my estimation nor will be Hill-Billery ...
 
 
+6 # Ladidah 2013-05-11 09:44
Unfortunately in this country creating news
rather than straight, unadorned reporting isn't sensational enough.Issues are blown out of proportion and they keep playing the same tune over and over, instead of dealing with the serious problems we face.
 
 
+4 # mstrdig 2013-05-12 07:18
The devastation of the WTC served to mask, delay, and slightly mitigate an economic disaster. OUr attention turned to terrorism, and we let foxes rule our house financially, wreck it, and then were given passing grades and entitlements, what is this republican obsession with benghazi hiding?
 
 
+2 # Precisely. 2013-05-12 12:38
Regarding real progressive tv news channels, some of us have been impressed with RT tv. RT stands for Russia Today, but I'm not sure the name isn't somewhat ironic, although they do carry Russian news in Russian.

If you watched the 3rd-party debates last year, they were held on RT. Find out more on RT.com, http://rt.com/where-to-watch/, http://rt.com/usa/ .

My DISH-tv package has rt, and i understand that it's available on cable and perhaps also on non-subscriptio n tv stations. You may find it of interest.

And no, I have no connection to the station whatsoever.
 
 
-2 # Precisely. 2013-05-12 12:48
By the way, are there any 'terrorist' attacks within the US since Bush Jr that anyone actually believes were wholly foreign-based? Just wondering this myself, today, thinking how little we truly know.
 

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