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Sanders writes: "If elected, Romney is promising an end to key federal policies supporting sustainable energy like the production tax credit for wind."

Mitt Romney holds a rally with coal miners in West Virginia. (photo: Reuters)
Mitt Romney holds a rally with coal miners in West Virginia. (photo: Reuters)


Romney's Energy Policy Is a Relic of the 19th Century

By Bernie Sanders, Reader Supported News

25 October 12

 

t the second presidential debate, Mitt Romney talked about how a president should be "Mr. Oil, or Mr. Gas, or Mr. Coal." Romney supports continuing the massive $113 billion in federal subsidies for oil, gas and coal over the next 10 years. He has previously referred to sustainable energy as "imaginary." If elected, Romney is promising an end to key federal policies supporting sustainable energy like the production tax credit for wind.

While I may not agree with all of President Obama's energy policies, I strongly supported his successful effort to double fuel economy standards for cars and trucks to 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025. This will cut our reliance on imports from OPEC by half. I also support his investments in energy efficiency and the sustainable energy industries. Frankly, I think he may be too modest about his accomplishments in this area. The fact is, over the last four years we have begun to transform our energy system, cut greenhouse gas emissions and create new jobs through energy innovation.

The truth is that we're off to a strong start, but given the crisis of global warming much, much more has to be done.

Energy efficiency is the low-hanging fruit. Every day we are paying more for energy than we should due to poor insulation, inefficient lights, appliances, and heating and cooling equipment -- money we could save by investing in energy efficiency. Since Obama took office and we passed the stimulus, we have weatherized over 1 million homes. In Vermont, families whose homes are weatherized save on average $916 a year on their fuel bills while making significant cuts in carbon emissions. Given the fact that over 90 percent of the products used in weatherization are manufactured in the United States, we are creating jobs not only in construction but also in manufacturing. This is a win-win-win situation.

In the last several years we have also made significant progress in local energy innovation. The Energy Efficiency and Conservation Block Grant program I wrote with Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) helped Carmel, Ind., switch 800 of their 1,300 street lights to LEDs, reducing their energy use by nearly 50 percent and saving the city $70,000 a year. In Raleigh, N.C., block grant funds helped install solar hot water systems at fire stations across the city, reducing fossil fuel use for water heating by up to 50 percent. In Miami-Dade County, Fla., block grant funds went to construct a new power plant that recycles gas from a wastewater treatment plant and a landfill to make electricity.

Contrary to Romney's claims, we are making significant progress on solar. At the end of 2008, we had about 1,500 megawatts of solar and less than 50,000 solar jobs in America. The cost of solar was $7.50 per watt installed. Today, less than four years later, largely thanks to federal investments, we have more than tripled solar energy to 5,700 megawatts installed. We now have more than 100,000 solar energy jobs at 5,600 companies in the United States, double the number of jobs from four years ago. And, very significantly, the cost of solar has been cut by more than half, down to $3.45 per watt installed. There is nothing "imaginary" about the growth of solar energy.

In fact, the Department of Defense, the largest single energy consumer in America, is bullish on solar. Whether it is the 1.45-megawatt solar project at the Burlington, Vt., Air National Guard Base or the 14-megawatt project at Nellis Air Force Base, Nev., the military recognizes the value of solar. Thanks to the stimulus, America is now home to the largest operating solar photovoltaic plant in the world, the 250 megawatt thin-film plant in Yuma County, Ariz. That plant can provide electricity to 100,000 homes.

Photovoltaic technology is not the only significant solar development. In California, construction is underway for the largest concentrated solar thermal plant of its kind in the world, the 392-megawatt Ivanpah project in California that created 2,100 construction jobs. When completed in 2013, this concentrated solar plant will power 140,000 homes. And a 280 megawatt concentrated solar plant in Gila Bend, Ariz., will be the first in the U.S. with energy storage, providing power even when the sun goes down. That project created 1,600 jobs.

The story is much the same with wind energy, thanks to the federal production tax credit and the stimulus bill. At the end of 2008 we had about 25,000 megawatts of wind energy, but today we have doubled wind energy capacity to over 50,000 megawatts. We have added more new wind energy capacity over the last five years than nuclear and coal combined. We now have 75,000 Americans working in wind and over 470 plants in America manufacturing wind products. The upshot: the cost of wind energy dropped from 8.4 cents per kilowatt hour in 2008 to about 5 to 7 cents per kilowatt hour today.

States like Iowa and South Dakota have achieved the milestone of getting 20 percent of their electricity from wind. And the Shepherds Flat wind farm in Oregon, one of the largest in the world at 845 megawatts, created 400 construction jobs and is powering 235,000 homes. Wind energy is real, not "imaginary."

We are seeing great progress on geothermal. Ball State University in Indiana is constructing the largest closed-loop geothermal heating and cooling system in the country, creating 2,300 jobs as they replace aging coal-fired boilers. As a result, they will save $2 million annually in energy costs. In Oklahoma, a state with over 4,000 people working in geothermal, the Oklahoma Gas and Electric utility is helping customers switch to geothermal in order to cut peak energy demand by 27 megawatts in the next decade. This will avoid the need for costly new fossil fuel plants. Geothermal technology is creating jobs for well drillers, and 99 percent of the geothermal heat pumps sold in America are made in America.

Likewise, with biomass, we are seeing innovation. In Kansas, a cellulosic ethanol refinery is under construction that will produce 25 million gallons a year of fuel from sources such as wood and agricultural waste, instead of corn. That plant, supported by the stimulus, created 65 jobs and will generate 22 megawatts of biomass electricity as well. The Navy is using algae and advanced biofuels in its fleet, and the Air Force has flown fighter jets using a 50 percent advanced biofuel mixture.

As a nation, we should all be proud of the progress we have made in the movement toward energy efficiency and sustainable energy, but much more needs to be done. The scientists tell us that if we do not reverse global warming, more and more damage will be done to our planet in terms of floods, drought and extreme weather disturbances. The United States today has not only the opportunity to lead the world in cutting carbon emissions, but also in creating millions of good paying jobs as we transform our energy system away from fossil fuels.

Mitt Romney's energy policy is a relic of the 19th century. We need a 21st century plan. The fate of the planet is at stake.


 

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-54 # edge 2012-10-25 14:44
Farms have virtually zero waste so to say it is used to make ethanol is ridiculous!

Most cellulose "waste" is either fed to livestock or turned into the soil to improve it. If you don't then the farmer needs to buy chemical fertilizers!

There is no free cellulose laying around going to waste!

When you find a way to store solar and wind power then it will have value, today it is a waste because a fossil fuel plant needs to be on standby 100% of the time in case the wind stops or there are too many clouds.
 
 
+27 # brux 2012-10-25 20:11
Good points, nevertheless oil and coal are destroying the planet, and if want to argue about global warming, think ocean acidification. The ecological niche that makes most of our oxygen may not survive in the near future lacking the ability to make shells or exoskeletons. We have pushed things to the redline and are still pushing because we simply cannot cut back on the fossil fuel.

Because of the misunderstandin g of nuclear we cannot even use the best carbon-free source of energy that exists, thanks to incompetent designers and politicians and business marketers who have lied to us so many times that we no longer believe them.

And while the rest of the world has been busy using the one thing they can to better their countries ... i.e.. education, in America we have everything and yet shame ourselves with our unbelievable ignorance, and this is reinforced daily in the media.

I just happened to see a video clip a day or so ago in which the scientist Carl Sagan was speaking to a management group saying that our media is a big part of the problem. Every newspaper in the country has a daily astrology section filled with total nonsense, but how many have a daily or even a weekly science section, and how many bother to try to explain when we get the names of Nobel Prize winners, what they got their prizes for?

Our country is so backwards and hopeless why in the world would anyone with half a brain want to throw away money investing in the US?
 
 
-33 # edge 2012-10-26 04:49
Quoting brux:
Good points, nevertheless oil and coal are destroying the planet,
SNIP.


Perhaps, but don't waste money on unproven ideas!
Use something akin to the "X PRIZE"
Give a huge some to someone that comes up with a plan that works, meaning energy that can compete with coal or oil AND/OR sequesters CO2 and other pollutants.

Want to spend 50 billion on solar or wind, that can't compete, that is crazy.
Instead give it to whomever actually fixes the problem!!!
 
 
+7 # AndreM5 2012-10-26 07:08
Wow. That is breathtaking.
 
 
-11 # edge 2012-10-26 21:13
Quoting AndreM5:
Wow. That is breathtaking.


I suspect it would be to someone that expects government handouts. You probably don't work in the private sector so don't really understand the concept of capitalism.

The X Prize pays for results from entrepreneurs that spend their own money and not on government welfare!!
 
 
+12 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 07:24
Cannot spell so we should take you seriously?
Unproven Ideas, spoken like an imbecile republican with money from polluters.

Unproven Ideas...tell that to Holland. Tell that to Engineers in the World. No one in third world country seem to be listening, they are going to move ahead...we will be the only one left polluting and living in dark ages DUH
 
 
+16 # AndreM5 2012-10-26 07:32
"don't waste money on unproven ideas"

Yow, that is an incredibly preposterous statement. Congratulations .

EVERY form of research involves spending money on "unproven" ideas. That is what research is for, to prove or disprove an idea. Get it? Probably not.
 
 
-12 # edge 2012-10-26 21:16
Quoting AndreM5:
"don't waste money on unproven ideas"

Yow, that is an incredibly preposterous statement. Congratulations.

EVERY form of research involves spending money on "unproven" ideas. That is what research is for, to prove or disprove an idea. Get it? Probably not.


Clearly written by someone that did not read my entire statement or a government welfare addict!
 
 
+11 # bmiluski 2012-10-26 07:33
Perhaps, but don't waste money on unproven ideas!

So what you're saying that noone should have invested in the idea of a combustable engine since it was an uproven idea. How about the lightbulb, another unproven idea........mic ro chip?
 
 
+7 # robniel 2012-10-26 10:09
Scientific illiteracy is everywhere, especially on the "edge" of darkness.
 
 
+10 # dkonstruction 2012-10-26 10:18
Quoting edge:
Quoting brux:
Good points, nevertheless oil and coal are destroying the planet,
SNIP.


Perhaps, but don't waste money on unproven ideas!
Use something akin to the "X PRIZE"
Give a huge some to someone that comes up with a plan that works, meaning energy that can compete with coal or oil AND/OR sequesters CO2 and other pollutants.

Want to spend 50 billion on solar or wind, that can't compete, that is crazy.
Instead give it to whomever actually fixes the problem!!!


Take away the subsidies from oil, gas, coal and nuclear and proven alternative technologies such as wind and solar become much more competitive. Increase the scale of production and usage and they become even more so. Stop discounting (as in not counting them at all) the "external costs" from traditional energy sources (from polution clean-up to added health care costs) and these alternative sources are in fact way cheaper than oil, gas, coal and nuclear so your agrument simply isn't true either that these are "unproven" ideas/technolog ies or that they are more expensive.
 
 
+2 # mdhome 2012-10-26 20:06
Take the money the government gives to oil, coal, and nuclear companies and see how much screaming you get!!
 
 
+3 # rockieball 2012-10-27 06:59
Solar and wind power are not unproven ideas, unless you live in the USA and are so addicted to oil and your SUV.
France, Germany, Brazil, China and Australia have all been using both for decades. Their is even a car that runs on air and is being manufactured in France and India today. Yet the big oil lobby keeps them out of the USA. The so called new unproven idea have been around for over 100 years. Henry Ford made a car completely from Hemp and also one can make fuel out of hemp. It give off no CO2 or pollution. Britain has legalized Hemp and is in the process of using it for clothing, insulation, and fuel. Yet the good old USA does not want to waste money on UNPROVEN ideas.
 
 
+12 # overanddone 2012-10-26 02:55
I can recommend for your reading The New New Deal: The Hidden Story of Change in the Obama Era, by Michael Grunwald.
The issues of storage, near free cellulose, and cellulose free fuel generation are closer than you might think.
 
 
+24 # Todd Williams 2012-10-26 04:58
Bullpucky! In Germany the government installls, at no cost, solar panels to homes. The energy is fed into the national power grid and can be used day and night. The goal in Germany is to do away with all central power generating stations and provide power everywhere through the individual homes and businesses connected to the grid. Your negative thoughts will never solve the energy prolem, and will only lead to more division in our country. It's time to wake up to what the rest of the civilized world is doing!
 
 
+7 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 07:25
Typical sheeple types. Most other Countries will be far ahead while we still cling to the pocket linings of the Power Corp Corruption
 
 
-5 # brux 2012-10-27 12:02
You said it yourself ... "Germany's goal" .... get back to me when they do it, otherwise don't pretend to screw with the country with untested and unproven ideas ... no sane human being is going to risk the safety and lives of 350 million people on a nice idea no matter how seductive it is or what color it is marketed to us in.
 
 
+2 # Todd Williams 2012-10-29 05:03
Latest news from Germany: by 2020 the German government will have shut down every nuclear power plant and will be well on the way to ending burning coal. It's happening there and you can't deny it. I wanna know why so many Rethugs feel compelled to be addicted to fossil fuels? That's really stupid.
 
 
+6 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 07:21
Not so bright, stay in elementary school and take some science classes.
As for knowing what is going on in Commercial Farms...good luck, no one knows as they are corrupt.

Solar, and wind storage...it is called battery cells, Ask Dekka they are one of the largest American Companies still in Pa producing Batteries to store, Store, Sustainable Energy. If you were actually a Human with a conscience, try going to Science Fairs, Energy Symposiums you might actually learn how this is capable. Use of Sustainable Energy for Communities is direct feed, storage is used as back up. Newer fields on solar actually do not need near as much light as they did. Wind also but in either case, there is back up systems in place, would always be able to switch to power from alternative source.
They can do it in Cars, believe me they already do it in Homes.
Morons with their pockets lined by the Big three do not want to lose those perks.

Get an education before spouting stupidity statements
 
 
+13 # bmiluski 2012-10-26 07:30
Do you understand the concept of batteries? The concept of storing the energy produced by solar and wind power is stored in batteries. Right now, there is R&D money in China and India going into improving these storage batteries. Thanks to gwbush, we're 8 years behind both China and India.
 
 
+36 # freeportguy 2012-10-25 15:45
Romney has obviously as much "vision" as a mole...
 
 
-22 # edge 2012-10-26 05:26
Quoting freeportguy:
Romney has obviously as much "vision" as a mole...


WOW, very insightful!
You add so much to the conversation... must be an Obama follower!
 
 
+17 # freeportguy 2012-10-26 05:45
Wow, you must be a fan of the Man Whore Romney who in the past 10 months has adopted more positions than a porn star...

If you need a paragraph to explain the lack of vision, then you are no better than he is...
 
 
+18 # brux 2012-10-25 19:59
> I strongly supported his successful effort to double fuel economy standards for cars and trucks to 54.5 miles per gallon by 2025.

Though I will vote for President Obama, the problem I have with him is that he cannot seem to get anything done during his administration.

He did not really get health care done, and should he lose the election what he has gotten done will be reversed with glee by Republicans.

He did not have the guts to stand up to Congressional Republicans and say he would not sign the extension of the Bush tax cuts ... because he has tied his political life to corporate money.

It's been 4 years and the biggest threat to this country - bigger than Al Qaeda, is the corruption of the parties by corporate and lobbyist money, and the twisting of our laws to just keep squeezing more and more out of the middle class while moving our society into one that is rigged so that no one but the children of the very wealthy can succeed.

The image of President Obama and the reality are so very different, and it is completely dumbfounding to see people still behaving and talking as if he is the progressive savior of the middle class.

The fact is our problems in this country are huge, in fact life threatening for many. Even if a vast majority of Americans stand up for their rights, the militarized police state we now have is totally capable of slapping them down hard enough to keep the lid on this pressure cooker.

Where is Barack Obama on this?
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 07:32
His main fall backs many are Congress is Companies leaving like Bainsters, so this is both Economy and Jobs in one ball....
I would like to see the OBama of TV stepping on some gonads now to Jan. He said he will be.
I think he has done a lot more than we realize or give him credit for.

Healthcare was started, it is still a work in progress that NO Other President was able to tackle. Fool Nit refuses to accept it was based on Mass Healthcare DUH
However, Healthcare like so much in the USA is written by sleazy lawyers who leave large loopholes so their buds can drive back thru them. It will be these loopholes being amended and strengthened that will change the look of health care.
I know the idiots still do not see if it is thrown out, healthcare will go UP..Buffoons
 
 
+3 # mdhome 2012-10-26 20:01
We still need single payer (Medicare) that is written in plain language without the lawyers. But this is a first step
 
 
+9 # bmiluski 2012-10-26 07:46
When you have the opposition party proclaiming that their main goal is to make Obama a one term president by obstructing everything he proposes, it's pretty hard to get things done. Even when he had a democratic majority the republicans philibustered a record 112 in 2007 and 2008.
Even so President Obama managed to put through some far reaching legislation. i.e. The Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act of 2009.
A law that ends the role of private banks as middlemen, cuts program costs, and channels the extra money to the neediest students.
 
 
+2 # in deo veritas 2012-10-26 09:51
We are not entitled to have a savior. It is up to us to save ourselves and considering the amount of stupidy rampant in the general public it is highly unlikely to happen. An ignorant populace has NO futr regardless of who is "elected". Eight years of the Bush gang should have made us more aware of how corrupt the system is but if anything we just gotr lazier and stupider. You only get as good a government as you DEMAND and so far I haven't heard as much as a whimper. No doubt T.S. Eliot was correct then he wrote that "when the world goes out it will not be with a bang bu a whimper!"
 
 
+17 # Regina 2012-10-25 22:53
Romney is also a relic of the 19th century, specifically the late 19th century, when the roaring money crowd (Rockefeller, Astor, et al.) rolled in unlimited wealth. Considering both the current money rollers and their allied women slammers, the 19th century is obviously their motivator and its resurrection their goal.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 07:34
I would go back to perhaps the fifteenth century. Nineteenth movements were made.
Inquisition Era is more Romnit and his Party of imbeciles Closet
queen Clones who would have thought the process would have produced so many. Even the females seem to have gotten backsided.
The men got prettier in the process and women look like something out of Grim
 
 
0 # Cassandra2012 2012-10-28 13:04
=Robber Barons!

Now called VULTURES
 
 
+17 # Wyntergreen 2012-10-26 00:08
The biggest threat to this country is climate change. If we don't get a handle on this problem, none of the rest of it matters! If we keep on the way we're going, in a few generations civilization will be no more.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 07:37
This threat is now being multiplied by the Bushite China, India. Canada has their share of it with Tar Sands Pollution.
Not America's alone. Europe had started it, we followed due to manufacturing, steel etc not having controls. We implemented Clean Air and Water then W comes and tells China to stop riding bikes...we take manufacturing over their rather than continue to conform and bang...China is the largest Polluter, with Canada a close second. Let's hope we can Keep So American and Africa from following suit.
 
 
+9 # overanddone 2012-10-26 02:48
Hope & Change!
Provided the choices we have, we can only HOPE that in his second term, re-election not a consideration we will see a CHANGE in Obama.
A less conciliatory more aggressive advocate for progressive ideas. He has never said however he is anything but a pragmatic centrist.
The alternative promises change and the extinction of hope for the 99%.
 
 
+13 # Todd Williams 2012-10-26 05:02
We really need to change the House to solidly Democrat as well as provide a bigger Dem margin in the Senate. Obama needs more support in order to move forward with some big changes necessary in our society.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 07:42
We need Libertarians, Independents, and Greens. Democrats are sleazy as TP until we get stronger ones, I say let's get some new voices heard.

I am starting that in State Elections. I am hand tied on the ones in Federal but not State. Too much corruption cannot see the forest for the trees....so going to plant some new shrubs and let them grow, perhaps push the weeds out.
 
 
+1 # mdhome 2012-10-26 19:54
Start local, work toward the top, it will take time before a viable Green for president, first, local gov, then state gov , then congress, in the meantime vote for the dem this time if the vote is close, if not vote for the green and get the name out more. We cannot afford RoMoney and his god intended you 13 yr old daughter rape victim to become president and will go to jail if she gets an abortion.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 07:39
Change came when people started getting off their butts and doing something...Pro tests, Boycotts. I do not see anyone since the 90's standing behind anyone. That is why W and now all Repukes are getting away with murder and I mean murder as well as their Corporate Retards.

Want Change, then I suggest stop texting and start Movement to do Something.
 
 
+5 # bmiluski 2012-10-26 07:47
In order for the president to accomplish those goals we need a majority of democrates in congress.
 
 
+4 # Sweet Pea 2012-10-26 08:15
Yes, it seems that the Presidential elections are a choice of the lesser of two evils. I guess I'm stuck with voting for Obama.
 
 
0 # Todd Williams 2012-10-29 05:12
You know something? If you feel that damn way vote for Romney. I'm sick and tired of these "vote for lesser of two evils" people. Obama is NOT the lesser of two evils. He's a thoughtful, intellegent man with some great ideas. He's been fucked by the Rethugs ever since he's taken office. I feel sorry for him because he is still the target of racisim in the country. Yea Sweet Pea, go vote for Romney if that's what you really think. But I'll maintain that you were dead wrong.
 
 
+2 # mdhome 2012-10-26 19:56
"the extinction of hope for the 99%"
That is for certain with RoMoney, not to mention the unmentionable cruelty of his friend Mourdock nutcase.
 
 
-6 # MidwestTom 2012-10-26 04:56
For all ecology and environment first people; I was told yesterday by a refrigeration technician t that Freon s are the most smuggled items into the U.S. The reason: they are much more efficient at cooling than what we are forced to use. Years ago we were told that Freons were causing a hole in the ozone layer, as they were outlawedm, and replaced by refrigerant gas that us far less efficient. However, we are the only country that outlawed Freons, and the ozone hole has vanished. We could lessen our power demand by returning the use of Freons.
 
 
+2 # AndreM5 2012-10-26 07:11
Facts are just such inconvenient things.

Sorry, the hole in the ozone over Antarctica is still there, still growing some years, shrinking in others. This year is was the size of Canada + USA + Mexico combined! And this was a "shrinking" year.

R-12 was outlawed, R-134 replaced it. It works just fine and it is less persistent in the atmosphere (very good thing) but the change also appears to have been a form corporate welfare for Dupont.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 07:45
Freon was the Problem because of the way they and consumers were NOT recycling but dumping them. Hmmm

No offense but refrigerant that us far less efficient ???? what. Dumping is what got regulations against them. as far as I know i still have freon in stuff, I was not told of not.

Ozone hole has vanished...real ly
 
 
0 # wise old owl 2012-10-26 12:09
"...and the ozone hole has vanished."

Where do you get this stuff? Not only has the antarctic ozone hole NOT vanished, but there is now an arctic ozone hole to couple with it!

Try reading some actual scientific reports instead of getting your "facts" [sic] from the right-wing nut jobs.
 
 
-6 # MidwestTom 2012-10-26 06:36
According to the American Petroleum Institute we have over a 400 year supply of oil available in this country, and mofre natural gas than than everyone except Russia. We juzst have tp use it efficiently.
 
 
+8 # AndreM5 2012-10-26 07:11
API -- the world's richest and foremost source of BS.
 
 
+7 # bmiluski 2012-10-26 07:51
But you're fogetting the greed of the oil companies. The U.S. exported more gasoline, diesel and other fuels than it imported in 2011 for the first time since 1949, the Energy Department said. My question is.......why are we importing oil?
That oil will run out not just because of cars but because a lot of our products are petrolium based. It would behooves us to come up with some alternate energy sources. That's thinking into the future which republicans have a hard time doing.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 07:53
Our problem as it was stated over the past two weeks again on TV, Letterman show for one. We sell all our resources, we cannot stop it as the Cheney, Bush make money selling it abroad than selling it here. OB said that if a fair market price could be achieved, than the need to compete and ship our fuel would lesson.

But now we have an imbecile wanting more Middle Eastern Wars to keep our prices soaring. Funny how our gas price just came down over twenty cents? Perhaps our use of it, stopping ourselves from over use, could actually force the surplus . Would be nice to see Bush, Cheney and the like esp BP to be so gutted by the World that they would be surplussed forever. Russia should get on the band wagon and learn from Germany, Holland to reuse natural energy. They could do well with solar and wind, I am sure water also. They should show China what independence from the dark ages is like. China makes so much technology and uses so very little. Sad as they were leaders in technology like Japan. They could be oil free in their cars, their homes, businesses. They have so much they could be growing, so much sun, wind harnassed. Think of the money both these Huge Nations could save if independent of oil needs. Foolish Power no Brains...just like the Republicans they listened to and make rich.
 
 
+5 # mdhome 2012-10-26 19:47
The Bush recession of 08, caused us to use less gas and the price dropped i half for 09. RoMoney said he would cut the price of gas in half, even more, Yeah we know how to do that a total depression, NO THANKS.
 
 
+8 # m... 2012-10-26 07:13
Read History...

Humans have a long and very well documented history which is now more available for ALL to read, know and understand than ever.

Nothing brings an Empire down faster, harder and more completely than the GREED of its own Big Wig Members.

One of the saddest things is perhaps to live in times when EVERYONE knows this throughout the Empire.., and yet.., ABSOLUTE GREED is still winning the day--- even as most of our citizens are struggling with less and less year after year because of GREED and as the Greedy Few reap more and more.

“We have always known that heedless self interest was bad morals, we now know that it is bad economics.”
― Franklin D. Roosevelt

I would like to add that it is also a very bad Security Strategy too...!!
Not to mention harsh, and cruel to the masses.
 
 
+2 # jky1291 2012-10-28 12:32
Republicans are not insane to defeat President Obama because his policies failed. They are outraged that his policies prevented their 25% unemployment Depression that would enable them to buy up the rest of the country for 10 cents on the dollar. Don't believe me, believe the facts. Nearly every proposal to help those earning less than $250,000 per year has met nearly unanimous opposition from the Republicans, while nearly every Republican proposal would provide most of its benefits to the 1% only. They are more than perfectly willing to spend 4 - 6 billion dollars of price gouged consumers' money to buy this election for their puppet to reinstitute their failed policies, to insure the successful completion of their traitorous scheme. They have already extorted another $140 billion added to our national debt, with the extension of the 2003 Bush tax cuts for those earning over $250,000 per year since the 2010 election, by coercing those that their policies put out of work with fraudulent lending practices, phony securities' ratings, and illegal foreclosures. Why would anyone believe that a 1%er, who does not believe in government, has any incentive to improve conditions for the 99% by being elected to govern? In a single election the Republicans are determined to undo the results of the American Revolution and the Civil War by reestablishing the MONARCHY OF WEALTH in order to ENSLAVE US ALL!!!
 
 
+2 # jcornie 2012-10-26 07:15
Problem with wind and solar is the need to store energy during periods of low power need for use at peak power needs or when the wind does not blow and the sun does not shine. One good way of storing energy is electrolysis to anhydrous amonia which is liquid, transportable and can power turbo-generator s like natural gas with the same equipment. The feed products are electricity from wind or solar, water and atmospheric nitrogen. The combustion products are water, nitrogen gas and power to the grid. No CO2 and no polution. This is a great opportunity for infrastructure investment. The Oil and Coal guys do not want it, yet. But when we talk about a 100 years supply of fracking gas, what then? What happens to the world we leave to our grandchildren and their children?
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2012-10-26 08:00
Romney know as much about energy as he does about foreign policy.

Cloning only improves looks not the brain it seems. The looks was more for the men, they are so pretty they could be gay. Women are so hard looking, they could be rock.


Storage isn't a problem of sustainable, and it is less in need of room that decades before. It is sheer greed that keeps the money in pockets. Lucky if there is a hundred years from fracking gas.

Oil companies have bought patents since the 40's that I know of, I saw so much good technology bought up in sixties myself. it is there, just in a safe owned by Oil, Coal.

Fracking damage far exceeds the good that will come from it. Pa is putting one next to a Nuclear Power Station in Beaver Valley...Corbet t neither good looking nor smart just greedy
 
 
+8 # Corvette-Bob 2012-10-26 08:20
If you put enough money into advertisement you could sell arsenic as a health tonic to the American people. Don't believe me then just think of the following concept. "Clean Coal" Enough said
 
 
+4 # wilhelmscream 2012-10-26 09:11
If I had some Plutonium and a Delorean (or just a TARDIS), I could travel back in time to were Romney wants America to be; a time when you could be fired 4 being an atheist, Jewish, Muslim or gay! A time when interracial marriage was illegal; everything was closed for Sunday; minorities had to take tests to vote; and the poll tax.

NO THANK YOU!!
 
 
+6 # reiverpacific 2012-10-26 09:32
Again, I can't believe -well, yes I do actually- that when Twit was listing his extractive, greed-based, widespread and wasteful push for energy development, Obama -or Schaffer- didn't challenge him on behalf of the environment (as in "Drill baby, drill"), including air quality, arsenic mine tailings and the further creation of National Sacrifice Areas like Pine Ridge/ Badlands, The Four Corners and Hanford.
The only wind energy Twit can relate to is the self-generated hot-flatulence emerging form his divers orifices and the only solar would be that which he sprays his skin with before public appearances.
 
 
+3 # in deo veritas 2012-10-26 09:36
Romney and the Repukes are relics of the dark ages not just the 19th century. I used to believe in evolution but they are proof that it did not occur in all species-i.e. theirs. Any similarity between them and the rest of the human race is purely superficial.
 
 
+1 # Cassandra2012 2012-10-28 13:08
Rommey as the anti=Christ?
 
 
0 # mdhome 2012-10-26 10:21
Yes, we go for thaw kind of energy and the price of wind/solar will go through the roof!! Making energy unaffordable!
(sarcasm)
 
 
+3 # mdhome 2012-10-26 19:39
RoMoney has no idea period.
 

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