Parramore writes: "The question of why religious conservatives are so likely to be caught in the act is eternally compelling. From the Pentecostal televangelist Jimmy Swaggart's love for prostitutes to abstinence-preaching Senator David Vitter's extracurricular romps."
Dinesh D'Souza visits 'The Opie & Anthony Show' in New York City, Sept. 27. (photo: Cindy Ord/Getty Images)
Why Does Sexual Hypocrisy Flourish on the Right?
20 October 12
orty years ago, conservatives awakened to the fact that their agenda was getting little traction in American public life. So they hatched a plan to turn things around. Pooling their considerable financial resources, they would invest in the marketplace of ideas and fund books, professors, journalists -- anything to promote, amplify, and disseminate their right-wing worldview. In short, they would buy the American mind.
Quite a bargain, that. One of their most successful investments was the support of an eager young man who got his start writing for the Dartmouth Review, a conservative newspaper founded in 1980 by disgruntled students who thought that the college's daily paper was way too liberal. Dinesh D'Souza was carefully groomed to flower into what he is today -- a vitriolic, one-sided, outrageously craven wingnut who will say anything and everything as long as it supports the most rancid right-wing agenda. You might think of him as the inhabitant of the deepest, darkest spot in our political discourse, the Mariana Trench of American intellectual life.
If you look back over recent decades, you will find this creature surfacing in any number of conservative crusades. Stirring up jingoistic anti-Obama fantasies, for example. Or protecting traditional marriage from gays.
Which is why it has been amusing to hear D'Souza, until today the president of an evangelical college, explaining just how he came to be sharing a hotel room with a woman who is not his wife and introducing her as his fiancée. Apparently D'Souza was in the process of ending his marriage of 20 years, but had not quite gotten around to signing the divorce papers when he shacked up with his lady friend at a South Carolina conference. He has since "suspended" his engagement.
Frankly, as far as scandals go, this one ranks low on the excite-ometer. It would have been more fun if he had been caught sharing a men's room stall with Larry Craig.
But hell, we'll take it. The question of why religious conservatives are so likely to be caught in the act is eternally compelling.
From the Pentecostal televangelist Jimmy Swaggart's love for prostitutes to abstinence-preaching Senator David Vitter's extracurricular romps, hardly a year passes when some big-time right-winger isn't found to be coloring outside the box. Now lefties really don't care if Vitter, fondly known on the web by his fetish moniker "Diaperman," likes to get his kicks wearing adult diapers and paying someone to powder his butt. In fact, we might encourage him to let his freak flag fly and march in the diaper fetish parade. As long as the sexual activity doesn't hurt anyone, who cares? It's the fetish for moralizing, sermonizing, and finger-wagging that sets our teeth on edge. Particularly when it ossifies into laws that make it impossible for many women to manage their reproductive lives or prevents loving partners from getting hitched. Not only do public pieties fail to prevent personal improprieties, they seem to have an unusually strong correlation. When legendary conservative Strom Thurmond was promising never to force southern whites to admit blacks (not the word he used) "into our theaters, into our swimming pools, into our homes, and into our churches," he neglected to mention that at the age of 22 he had admitted one into his bed and impregnated the family's 16-year old black maid. His daughter was a secret until his death in 2003.
So what is that? Why condemn what you desire? Part of the answer can be found in the style of religion you embrace if you are a right-winger. Monotheistic religions like Christianity are especially patriarchal and tend to be built on the denial of the feminine and a special abhorrence of those flesh packages known as "bodies." If you're only going to have one god, that god is probably going to be male, and so you've got to suppress the female element of spirituality so that He doesn't have any competition. Women are associated with the processes of nature, which can be scary, and you've got to do something about that, too. They give birth, and anything that is born must die, which is an unpleasant thought, so to get rid of that you just go around pretending that life is eternal and that everything really springs from the Great Celestial Father. Pretty soon you have concocted possibly the most unnatural idea in human history: The Virgin Mother.
Polytheistic religions don't tend to operate this way, which is why you can see male and female gods frolicking with abandon on the walls of ancient Egyptian temples. Which is also why the Second Commandment in the Bible tells you not to ever, ever look at them. In fact, you're really not supposed to look at or think about bodies at all. They are inconvenient encumbrances to your eternal life, and the sooner you get rid of them, the better. Anything that upsets the fragile order of this strange system where males are celestial beings and women are nasty creatures whose bodies reek of dirty sex -- like gay love, for example -- will have to be squelched at all costs. Holding all these contradictory thoughts in your head deforms the mind into a labyrinth of twists and turns and on top of that there's a phantom floating around in there.
Thanks to Freud, we know that humans are often haunted by something called The Return of the Repressed. The more you try to deny the undead incarnation of your repressed desires, the stronger he becomes, and he will hunt you down. Before long you find yourself in a park restroom in Florida asking an undercover policeman to fellate you for 20 bucks. And your boss John McCain is pissed.
D'Souza himself provides a curious perspective on the subject. In a meditation on the high standards of conservatives in which he deplores the adulteries of both Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich, D'Souza imparts this gleaming nugget of insight:
"Even hypocrisy is in the conservative view preferable to a denial of standards because such denial leads to moral chaos or nihilism."
Let's call this Conservative Chaos Theory. Without hypocrisy, the conservative mind would explode from the sheer force of its eternal contradictions and Dinesh D'Souza, along with his phantom, would be sucked into the void. Hypocrisy is the glue that holds it all together. Tolerance for others is corrosive to hypocrisy and must be avoided come hell or high water. In that South Carolina hotel room, Dinesh D'Souza was taking a stand against moral relativity. Maybe even the General Theory of Relativity. Anything which denies the absolutes and standards that protect the insecure human from the knowledge of his mortality -- and ultimately, his insignificance in the great design of things. People, this is courage. And I submit that it is not easy to take a stand while you are lying down.
This is why, friends, that you will very likely soon turn on the news to hear that yet another promoter of God's word has been caught with his pants down.
In motel rooms across America, these men are bravely resisting chaos.
Amen.
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I think is should disqualify you from running if you EVER talk about religion.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.."
This is kind of why Christine O'Donnell got in trouble in her debate;she thought that 'separation of church and state' should have been a phrase rather than what it is: a tenet.
The Founding Fathers did not want the U.S. to be the Pharaoh of that day, and since there were too many divisions in Christianity to pick an 'official' state religion, they devised the Establishment Clause, and granted the free exercise of religion for that day when God fulfilled His promises.
That day has come friends.
And as you might imagine, that government has nothing to do with partisanship, bickering, selfishness, greed, oil, war, alcohol, or anything else we see being practiced in the world today.
Impossible? It is not a rehashing of the old, but a completely new system, less than 200 years old. Only volunteers can join. Whoever doesn't want to can continue on their journey to wherever it takes you.
Hypocrisy is wrong, regardless of who does it. Jesus dealt harshly with those leaders who were hypocritical and self-righteous.
We should address hypocrisy but not to condemn Christ and the Christian faith because individuals of the Christian faith or claiming the faith have fallen short of what is expected.
God formed women from the rib of man to make it clear to us that woman and men are equal partners. God gave us the freedom of choice. We can either accept or deny God. In either case, there are consequences.
Every man will be held accountable for what he has done or not done. Knowing the fault of man, Jesus provided a way of forgiveness. The Bible reminds us that “the wages of sin is death (eternal separation from God) but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
We have a choice in what we do and say. With this freedom comes accountability. God reminds us that every man and women will be either justified or condemned by his or her words.
Regardless of whether we deny God, He still is and will judge all things both good and bad. No man is perfect, some worst than others. God will level the playing field. Every man and women will be held accountable for their choice to honor God or not.
Isn't that special???
It doesn't matter what your political party is, our society's middle name is 'drunken orgy', or something similar to that. It's also 'war monger' and 'greed factory', which are also evidences of a decaying and decadent society. Not that I'm complaining, mind you. Just making an observation.
So ... do we really think that we are too drunk to fail? What is it about the people of this drunken orgy generation that is different from the past and definitely won't lead to collapse like other societies? Birth control? Night clubs? The massive economies?
And I'm not saying it will be the cause of our downfall, but it has been seen in history to be negative indicators. Are we that strong, or are we that blind?
These "Christian" men caught in the act of what they speak against from the bully pulpit are using the faith of others as cover to hide their human desires. Hiding in plain sight while pointing at you or me for distraction. When caught, they claim human frailty and shame when the only shame they feel is for getting caught.
I'm ready for there to be no more people holding themselves above others in the name of "divine preference."
Quoting: "Every man and women will be held accountable for their choice to honor God or not." Defintely an ultimatum. Invoking fear in people to get them to convert doesn't sound like freedom of choice. If a religion is based on appeals to fear, then people would join, if they didn't know any better, generally out of not wanting to go to hell. How can that sincerely "honor" God? More fear than sincerity. That sounds rather totalitarian to me.
Meanwhile, I wonder what Krishna, Lono, Pele, Odin and Zeus "think" about this?
My opinion is something that is true for me personally. My conviction is something that is true for everyone - in my opinion.
The difference between a fact and an opinion/assumpt ion is that a fact can be proven, but an opinion has not yet been proven to be a fact.
The belief that god made woman from Adam's rib is an opinion, or an assumption, yet you state it as a fact. You state that god is male, which, to my knowledge, cannot be proven.
In fact, your whole note is a collection of opinions, none of which have yet been proven to be fact, and yet you state all of them as if they were facts.
I don't have a problem with anyone having any opinion they want to have, but I wish you and all the rest of the religions in the world would stop stating opinions as if they were facts.
Just because you happen to believe they are facts does not make them so. Looking at them as opinions might also make a person a bit less arrogant in the way they promote their beliefs.
No religious leader would accept Him, the ultimate corruption, and they would hasten and conspire to execute or imprison Him. Imagine, the One they claim they await is the very One they condemn to death.
So ... can anyone of you come up with a better book, or even a better passage or just a decent thought that can guide the whole of humanity to a better world?
Still waiting ...
All of the problems you mention are symptoms of addictive behavior. All addictive behaviors are neurotic in one form or another. Addictions, though understandable, are not always easy to cure, but they are curable.
Before you pre3ach religion as the ultimate salvation for people, I would like to see a world in which there were no addictive norms being presented as the way people are supposed to live.
No addictions, no neurosis - my guess is we would not have any of the problems you are talking about.
There is also a book out titled "Toxic Faith," in which the author details how addictive in nature many, if not most religions tend to be.
All addictive behaviors are based on fear. Love is the antithesis of fear. The problem is that most people are afraid of love, or perhaps afraid of the vulnerability that comes with love.
There's an answer for you, but I doubt if you'll even give it the time of day, so assured are you in the "rightness" and "perfection" of your belief system.
LOL this is so true, I couldnt have said it any better myself.
They sure are,... so many of those "God fearing" people are so repressed, because they Have to suppress the most life affirming natural thing: a healthy sex life.
The church has made it dirty by calling it SIN.....Childre n are born in SIN?? When you are lucky they are born out of love.
From what I have observed The south seems to be heavily religious, and very repressed, So it is not so strange, that in the SECRET of their own parlors, they are also the BIGGEST consumers of PORNOGRAPHY in IN THE COUNTRY.
Maybe Kings College should take a look at D'Sousa's computer??? they may find more interesting stuff there. I would not be surprised if they did.
I bet it kills him that Obama has a good marriage, a charming and smart wife and two lovely daughters. When he made that contorted sick movie about Obama, I am sure he looked high and low to find some juicy dirt on him.
His tpye don't have beliefs, they see opportunity and use it. The right picked their token "intellect" and are using him a great deal to destroy the very liberal society that welcomed D'sousa and his family into the country.
It's clear we've reached a point of no return. Voters have GOT to take responsibility for educating ourselves about the issues and political candidates.
We can't afford politicians who pedal racism, misogyny, homophobia, fear and division.
We're in this together. We live or die on this planet, depending on our choices and intelligence in handing global warming, etc. Is the politician we're considering voting for a global warming denier?
We can't afford politicians who are not true leaders. We can't afford to hire people who peddle discrimination, fear and hatred of women, who believe that they represent the 1% at the expense of the rest of us.
We have a responsibility to know what candidates REALLY stand for, not what they say they do and to get involved in every way we can to make a difference.
Sex leads to reproduction--s ometimes. Not having sex NEVER leads to reproduction.
So behaviors leading to sexual intercourse, whether biological or social, are passed down. Even rape--sadly--an d especially if the Paul Ryans would have their way.
The denigration of women extends into 3 areas: pornography, the way the Earth--as Great Mother is treated, and the ensuing overall disrespect for life that makes wars, unending, possible. Due to the gross ideological imbalance that results from worship of only one side of the Divine Source, war is funded instead of the things that nourish, support and sustain life.
It truly is amazing, isn't it? But then you've got Gingrich....
One can, it seems, make an educated guess about a politician's "private life" by paying close attention to what he or she rails against. "Law and order" candidates take bribes. And the Anti-Sex League uses "family values" as a code for "we want to stop you from doing what we do".
"The Lady doth protest too much..."
Watch this space...
Most recent example is a tea party leader in our community who goes around saying "God Bless America" and his close friends and family know he's a devoted athiest...but it works. Wolf is sheeps clothing.
The object of religion/ philosophy is to cultivate the best in us not the worst. Aberrant behavior by a person of any religion is a matter of individual choice, not something encouraged by most religious systems I can think of.
As a person born in Eastern Tibet, I do not even know what you are referring to in you remarks re Tibetan Buddhsm. What have you been reading?!
That aside, doesn't the Shadow live and struggle in all human hearts? Isn't the measure of our humanity the degree to which we are able to integrate and transform our own darkness without projecting it onto others or behaving in destructive ways?
2. What we hate most in others is also what we hate the most in ourselves. Whatever it is you find the most abhorrent in other people is most likely a trait you possess but hate.
3. There is a level of self hatred involved in both denying yourself what you enjoy and in giving in finally and doing what you think is wrong. This attitude goes hand in hand with many church's teachings that man is a sinful creature- that we are born of original sin- that we all fall short, etc. Many churches focus on the bad that is man rather the good that God- and this style both appeals to and creates those who would feel that level of self hate.
What is going on is that not only does the hypocrisy allow for keeping the standards, but only men can have the luxury hypocrisy offers. Their standards echo through the fundamentalist world; Christian, Muslim, you name it. Listening to the fundamnetalist Christian conservative about women and sex and all I hear is domination and control. It is the woman who betrays the man, who draws him to hypocrisy, violating the code he loves so much. And it is the woman who is stoned, beaten, impoverished, jailed, killed whether in the Bible, in the Koran, by the Taliban, or the USA where for her sins she has to keep the baby, no longer the man's baby but the price for her waging of sin.
To the bimbo D'Souza Sex is sin, dirty, female entrapment..... .and worse of all, freedom.
Domination and control.
Robt Eagle does not want ot pay for abortion and contraception hence repreduction rights. But viagra? That's what keeps the Conservatives holy for that is what God wants: men on top!
1. Making the natural sexual attraction (between man and woman, or man who acts like a woman) into the Original sin!
2. ONLY allowing males a position of status or authority within the church hierarchy
3. Brutally burning women healers, mid-wives and those with any independent streak or spirit as witches in a misogynistic campaign of carnage that lasted centuries.
Has the church ever apolgized for this reign of terror? Note how the lack of ownership of "The Shadow" allows the same spiritual sickness to continue, now posing as the Holy War (torture, again, included) against Islam and any unfortunates who manage to get caught in its drift-nets.
Read Republican John Dean's book, "Conservatives without Conscience".
Just as you are morally outraged and opposed to any taxpayer money going to abortion and contraceptives; I am also morally opposed to initiating wars, the death penalty, and drug laws.
Since you feel it is appropriate to stop government funding of the items you are morally opposed to, how about no funding for the items I am morally opposed to?
Somehow I am willing to wager $10K of Mitt's personal gambling fund that you won't respond on topic.
A lot of finger-pointing accusations with no content. That's the jist of it.
I was no SEAL or Ranger or Green Beret, simply a rifleman who was nearly killed at the start of the war in 'Nam.
Are you aware that, just like in '08 the military donations in this race favor Obama 2 to 1?
Thanks for the response, but you missed my wording;
"I am also morally opposed to initiating wars,"
I understand that sometimes we have to meet violence with violence in order to preserve our country where democratic institutions can grow. Did ever wonder why many founders were against maintaining a standing army? Its because of two things. They are an expensive drain and they make the decision to enter into a shooting match easier.
I am not advocating the total dismantling of our military, but its time we began to downsize somewhat.
Bush Presidency an undeniable failure? 'He was too progressive.'
Thankfully you're only convincing yourselves in your pathetic echo chamber.
The principal problem in all of this is that Liberals are not rabid dog enough to be anything but "understanding" of the foibles of the human condition. Money should be spent to "out" these hypocrites. This is a war for the rights of all Citizens of this country and the mendacity of the Conservatives should be made visible as a part of winning that war.
Yes, they are hypocritical, but who is not? Honestly, how many people have you known that were not hypocritical in some area, most often sex?
Proof is not possible. How would we get the data? But I won't disagree with you especially on the point of hypocrisy. Myself? I find it impossible to live in the modern world without having to live within some hypocrisy. For example, I try to buy ethically, for example, but the gas I put in my car adds 12.6 pounds per gallon of carbon into the atmosphere. I want to bring carbon emissions down, protect the planey's cretion and other species, etc. Yes, I take steps to reduce my footprint but even the CFL bulbs I use ligth up because of some fossil fuel driven energy source.
But here is what I think the point is; the example from me is my being entrapped in the structures of modern life. To choose to "bump and tickle" outside of marriage while publicly venting about God's laws, the commandments, righteousness and moral superiority is not structured; it is choice. If a conservative politicain had a gay affair but never backed or spread vitriolic, anti-gay jaws or venom while heading off to church, we might re-elect him but no one would accuse him of hypocrisy. But when you get guys like D'Souza or Craig, Venter, etc. who speak loudly about moral rectitude, claim to lead a God centered life, condemn others for their transgressions (think Newt) while doing that which they condemn, I think you can see the difference. And it makes me laugh to hear their first line of defense: I'm a sinner but Jesus forgave me. If they were only as charitable to others.
This situation is of the conservative's making. It was inevitable after they crawled into bed with the Christian fascists who want to legislate behavior in the bedroom. They are dependent on this voting block to win elections, they are dependent on their culture war because their economic policies only favor a very small percentage of the population.
As society moves forward, accepting diversity and moving away from ancient, archaic, repressive religions dominated by a white male hierarchy, the GOP will continue to lose votes. The vast majority of us look into your bubble and ask, 'what the F is wrong with these people?'
But you miss the point. It's the Ted Haggards (anti-gay Colorado televangelist caught with a male prostitute) that represent the hyperbolic hypocrisy of the right's claim to be the moral standard bearers of America.
Case in point is the Catholic church telling John Kerry he's barred from communion when, probably for centuries, the church has been a virtual crime syndicate, managing a protracted, coordinated program of criminal obstruction to protect the child rapists and sexual offenders in its ranks — tantamount to perpetrating an institution of rape. THESE are the people telling American Catholics not to vote for a Democrat. SO don't tried to feed us some false equivalency about how both sides are hypocritical. Only the right is guilty of THIS LEVEL of mind-blowing, jaw-dropping hypocrisy on this issue, AND YOU KNOW IT.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/03/30/which-party-has-more-sex-scandals.html
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Somebody is getting too much of it
They're not getting it legitimately
Government has a right to know who's getting it, and how much
etc.
One who pretends marital faithfulness in order to "keep face" in public is guilty of hypocrisy.
One who pretends marital faithfulness as false evidence of moral authority to exercise power over others is a cynic.
Insofar as religion is a struggle to understand the world, there will be hypocrisy. We form an abstract, idealized vision of what is right and true, but we want to avoid reckoning our own falling short of it.
But insofar as religion is a method of organizing and exercising power in society, there will be cynicism. We form doctrines and practices by which one group coalesces and asserts itself versus others. What is right and true in such case is flatly what confers power. That is cynical.
D'Souza is an arch-cynic. To paraphrase his quote cited in the article, "While I transgress the standards I espouse, at least I have standards." Nope. Those aren't standards, Dinesh. They are pious averrals that mean nothing to you except as they may secure your (paid) position in right wing politics.
One who pretends marital faithfulness as false evidence of moral authority to exercise power over others is a cynic."
However, I think most of these people fall into both categories. They want to save face AND be seen as some kind of "authority."
Few premises are more important than maintaining a FIRE WALL between church and state.
I love their push polls.
I'm not religious in the slightest, but I do think you need to clarify your statement in order for it to be accurate. The "religion" of Christianity as historically and currently practiced is often very hypocritical, as evidenced by the dreadful things done in the name of Jesus. But the teachings of Jesus, recorded as they selectively are in the New Testament, are not hypocritical at all... just the people who claim to follow them and then do the exact opposite, now that's the very definition of hypocrisy.
I partially agree. It's like he difference between an honest cop and one on the take or a bully. The good cop is one of society's best, a bad cop is one of the worst. Just so, the same is true of religious people.
1. God is the source of all life. Without God’s continuous desire to hold us in existence, we would cease to be. We would not be dead; we would cease to be! We can proceed down any explanatory path (evolutionism, creationism, etc.) as to how we came to be, and each one could be the right one. As humans, how we got here is up to us to discover, but we can never discover why we got here. That can only be revealed to us.
2. Humans have an eternal soul given to them as a gift from God.
3. The rules of conduct for carrying out one’s life (i.e., The Ten Commandments) must prevail.
4. Humans have free will. But humans can only adhere to or violate the Ten Commandments. They cannot choose another source of life or change the point at which God gives the gift of a soul.
5. God has an eternal paradise waiting for those of us humans who adhere to His commandments.
I agree with you that all life depends on a mysterious Source of Vitality. This has been recognized by many different cultures, including but not limited to biblical Judea. What makes you think they're the only ones who got it right? Why not be nourished by all the streams that flow?
Because of free will you can believe what you want. You will find out at the end.
Quoting: "Because of free will you can believe what you want. You will find out at the end." You sound rather arrogant and patronizing. How can we take your word for it, acting as a self-appointed spokesperson for God? A religion that needs fear and revenge to "convert" peoples doesn't sound like a purely good religion.
I'll trust you've never had an extramarital affair, which would violate Ex. 20:14; you NEVER take what isn't yours, including theft of time or supplies from your employer or even taking money from your wife's billfold, which would violate Ex. 20:15; and you never make statements you know are false about Democrats, liberals or even President Obama, which would violate Ex. 20:16.
Now, I know you're not going to turn around and say that these no longer apply since Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the Law, because Jesus said in Matthew 5:18: "I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished." You see - I, a gay, Christian socialist, have actually STUDIED the 10 Commandments.
Take it up with God if you don't like what God said.
Or, you could actually try READING the Bible -- preferably in the original Hebrew, and the Koine Greek.
He'd probably understand it just as well as Englisn, to wit, not at all.
These are your precepts for running your own life and not for taking inventory of others. Or is that how you employ your Free Will?
Can't argue with that, some of us believe facts, some believe myths.
Can you see the problem in saying: "it's up to you what you believe", after having previously presumed to *school* everyone online regarding what they *should* believe ? Point by point ?
In formal logic that is called a "hit and run" tactic. While very popular on elementary school playgrounds, it is considered cowardly when applied during the course of adult discussion.
Intellectually, organized religion [as opposed to inner spirituality] can't come up with a story that would pass the straight-face test with a cognitively challenged third grader.
But adherents of organized religion are so deeply steeped in fear that they will regurgitate whatever outrageously inane madness has been carefully spoon-fed to them as they grew up.
If it gives you comfort, fine. But read the part of the Bible that admonishes the reader (paraphrasing) if thou would talk to the lord, go thou to thy closet (closed place), and take not thy conversations out into the streets.
Bon Appetit !
I've been teaching Christian doctrine since 1965. Last year I completed a four year course on Biblical History. I have written a book on the impact of Christian philosophy on my understanding of what reality is all about. I have visited religious places all around the world. I attend Mass three times a week. Thus, my comments are based on study and experience.
None of you concentrate on what makes a person. None of you will accept the idea that there is a God. A God who can be called the first cause. A God who needs nothing. A God who created us out of his love. That those persons who come to understand that God wants us to give back love in the same manner.
Have you ever read "The Arab Mind" by Rapheal Patai. How about "The Theology of the Body Expalined" by Christopher West or the writings of Aristotle, Plato, St. Augustine? Have you ever been to Saudi Arabia and experienced the hatred of the Western Civilization. Have you walked through Auschwitz or seen the Black Madonna at Jasna Gora. How about witnessing the effects of an IED explosion in Iraq? Did you ever put your eyes on the Pieta in the Vatican? Have you ever been out of the United States and seen how the world lives?
What have you done to justify anything you want to advocate? I think you are like the king who has no cloths.
Bon Appetit!!
This boggles the mind. You ask the question "What have you done to justify anything you want to advocate?" From what you say you have done, all I can conclude is that you saw reality through your own lens and conclude that God wants us to love him back in the same manner. Nothing you say proves anything. This is your interpretation and it is as shallow as it is self-congratula tory. "What have you done..." you ask. Have you seen hunger in a world of extravagence and opulance? Have you seen suffering of children while Christians go to Church? Have you witnessed the death of a child from malaria because her family's poverty could not afford the medicines due to Western economic policies? Have you walked where the marginalized exist, their lives deemed valueless because they are not productive in a world of plunder capitalism? When I went to Mass, I could not help noticing the sparse contributions to the last collection, the one for the poor. The pious were as blind and heartless then as now. You say "A God who needs nothing" but then "wants the same love back in the same manner?" Then I guess he needs something. If God loves all of us on the condition we love him back, well then if he decides I don't love him enough, maybe justifies unleashing a plague on me. But how does a loving God allow innocent children to suffer the same plague? Are they just collateral damage? Is that any less cruel than an IED? Or a drone killing a child? The hatred of Muslims?
Just as American his-tory has been written from the perspective of the dominant culture leaving massive amounts of others' truth (and experience) out of the narrative, The Abrahamic religions (along with their followers, who form a seamless thread that profoundly impacts the halls of academe and what is studied therein) leave out the Feminine Dimensions of Creator & The Cosmos. These glaring omissions don't make the larger Truth any less viable.
Other models apart from top-down, male headed hierarchies have existed and prompted far more egalitarian societal models. That this info is kept largely hidden (or socially marginalized) is akin to the manner by which right wing Arizona zealots have made it their business to remove ethnic studies from their bleached white school curricula.
BUT WHEN YE PRAY, USE NOT VAIN REPETITIONS, AS THE HEATHEN: FOR THEY THINK THAT THEY SHALL BE HEARD FOR THEIR MUCH SPEAKING....... .
So if paradise awaits we imperfect humans varying in our adherence to the commandments, it doesn't sound like that high a bar to pass so what's the point?
Frankly, if there is a paradise, that is where dogs must go. They deserve it. They sure are a lot more superior in their conduct than we are and they seem to adhere to those commandments of yours a hell of a lot better than we do. Hmmm...makes me think that maybe we made all this crap up?
SPIRITUALITY is the search for enlightenment/knowledge.
RELIGION is the search for reward.
A quote I really like states that life is 5% what we make it, and 95% how we learned to take it. Our attitude, how we have learned to take things, determines how we respond to life.
This is not to say that people can't change, but the hardest thing for people with a poor self-image to do, is change.
My guess is that religions attract people with poor self-images, and gives them a way for them to think they are okay. Trouble is, most of them never believe it. Under the facade of light and cheer, they still don't like themselves very much, and they usually end up taking it out on others they have learned to not like very much as well.
One would think that if God really did forgive people of their sins, they would treat people that are different from them better than they do. I don't know if that is true for all spiritual belief systems, but I believe it is true for patriarchal belief systems.
Obviously, I can't be a Republican or a Tea Partier or I'd be screwing everything that moved (both literally and figuratively)!
Take it up with God if you don't like what God said.
Or, you could actually try READING the Bible -- preferably in the original Hebrew, and the Koine Greek. I did, so I actually know what the Bible says -- and more importantly, I know what it *doesn't* say.
The Torah is not written in Hebrew. It is written in Aramaic.
Please also be aware that if these documents were written by one entity, then the contradictions within the document provide serious questions about that entities philosophy and consistency.
Its opposite world, if you want to pollute the air, you name the bill the fresh air bill...so many great people I know are duped by this hypocrisy, yet they dont see it, its almost like in certain areas they are brainwashed.
Mitt pretends he cares about the middle class, when all he really cares about is making more money off of them. Thats all it ever really is about with republicans. If talking about banning abortions will get them votes to keep going with their selfish agendas then thats what they are for. As long as it doesnt cost them anything, and they never really do anything about it, they just like to use the talking point to get votes.
Fox News and Rupert Murdoch will go down as the force that used brain washing to ruin America...up is down, good is evil, right is wrong...its really quite amazing how many people are so caught up in the Fox bubble that they believe their nonsense as truth. Just keep repeating the lies long enough they become truth, thats the Fox mantra...its what they do.
Any poor/middle class person voting for Romney is either a bigot, fool or American turncoat.
"The Torah is not written in Hebrew. It is written in Aramaic."
Strange! It reads like Hebrew to me.
Or perhaps you should tell the Israelis that they don't know what language they are speaking.
This alone sums up accurately the entire conservative way.
In some ways there is more equality when there are multiple gods (which, yes, came well before a single god). It does make sense, though, to use sex, religion, skin color and sexual orientation to eliminate a lot of the competition. These recent inventions will not last too much longer and it will be interesting to see how this will change in 200 plus years when death will be optional.
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