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Gibson writes: "It'd be the same as a potential employee who refuses, under any circumstance, to take a drug test for employment, but assures his would-be bosses that he's never smoked a joint in his life."

Mitt Romney. (photo: Getty Images)
Mitt Romney. (photo: Getty Images)



What Stoners and Mitt Romney Have in Common

By Carl Gibson, Reader Supported News

18 August 12


Reader Supported News | Perspective

 

very smart weed smoker knows that while you're applying for jobs, it's best to stay clean. While all smokers have unique remedies they swear by when it comes to getting THC out of your system in a hurry, we all know it's best to just lay off until after passing that drug test when you're looking for work. Mitt Romney should've kept his financial records clean in preparation for applying for the nation's toughest job.

Mitt Romney has been eyeing the presidency for the better part of a decade. Knowing that his dad set a precedent for presidential candidates' releasing multiple years of tax returns, one would think Romney would have used the years in between presidential runs to be honest with his accounting and file clean tax returns if he really wanted the nation's highest office. There's no test tougher than the arduous ones presidential candidates take, and a smart candidate makes sure he "pisses clean" when it comes to his own finances.

Harry Reid may have made an irresponsible comment when refusing to cite the name of the source who swore that Mitt Romney paid no taxes for ten years, but he was smart to keep the spotlight focused on the candidate who refuses to tell voters how much taxes he really paid. Even John McCain has defended Romney, saying that there's nothing bad in the 23 years of tax returns he saw when he was vetting the former Massachusetts governor as a potential running mate. But even so, Mitt Romney has refused to come clean and settle the discussion by revealing his tax returns. There's nothing worse than not paying taxes for ten years, except for whatever Mitt Romney is hiding, apparently.

The information Mitt Romney is refusing to disclose may have something to do with the right-wing death squad money that he used to finance Bain Capital when he first started the company. Or it could be an even bigger tax break for another overly luxurious item, like the $77,000 loss he claimed on his wife's dressage horse in 2010. It could be a year or two of negative federal corporate tax rates for Bain Capital, similar to General Electric and Wells Fargo. Maybe some of those tax returns reveal millions of dollars stashed in overseas tax-free accounts in countries like Bermuda and the Cayman Islands. None of us will know, until Romney just releases his tax returns and takes the hits. He's going to have to, eventually.

If Mitt Romney wants to present himself as a sound businessman who knows how to handle the nation's budget, costs and expenses, how can we take him seriously if he won't even disclose more than two years of tax returns? It's something voters have a right to know, if they're going to put the world's biggest economy in the hands of this guy. It'd be the same as a potential employee who refuses, under any circumstance, to take a drug test for employment, but assures his would-be bosses that he's never smoked a joint in his life. If you're so clean, and if you really want the job, just pee in a cup and be done with it.

 


Carl Gibson, 25, is co-founder of US Uncut, a nationwide creative direct-action movement that mobilized tens of thousands of activists against corporate tax avoidance and budget cuts in the months leading up to the Occupy Wall Street movement. Carl and other US Uncut activists are featured in the documentary "We're Not Broke," which premiered at the 2012 Sundance Film Festival. He currently lives in Old Lyme, Connecticut. You can contact Carl at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it , and listen to his online radio talk show, Swag The Dog, at blogtalkradio.com/swag-the-dog.

Reader Supported News is the Publication of Origin for this work. Permission to republish is freely granted with credit and a link back to Reader Supported News.

 

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+65 # freeportguy 2012-08-18 13:00
"Trust me" Romney goes. Spoken like a true person from the private sector...as in "door to door salesman" type.
 
 
+55 # doneasley 2012-08-19 07:28
Quoting freeportguy:
"Trust me" Romney goes. Spoken like a true person from the private sector...as in "door to door salesman" type.


And Ann Rmoney adds: "Mitt's integrity is just golden". Assuming that she was there when Mitt was running for MA gov in 2002, she must have known that he lied about being a resident of MA, which required 7 years residency. Mitt had taken residence in UT (Olympics) and paid taxes there, not in MA. Under extreme pressure, he paid back taxes to MA, ran and was elected MA gov. Mitt does whatever is expedient, whatever will get him over at the time, like for instance, adopting the EXTREME RIGHT WING policies that we saw during the GOP debates.

The only thing GOLDEN about Mitt is his pocketbook, and... his forked tongue.
 
 
+5 # robniel 2012-08-20 07:05
He already used his limited creds as a door-to-door "missionary" in France to avoid the draft in the Viet Nam era. Is he still try to spread "good news"?
 
 
+80 # universlman 2012-08-18 16:18
Instead of peeing in the cup (disclosing his taxes) Romney is peeing on all of us.

His excuse is a cover-up.
 
 
+23 # Adoregon 2012-08-19 11:15
I'd want Romney to release the last ten years of tax returns AND pee in the cup.
 
 
+9 # robniel 2012-08-20 07:06
I don't care if his does either. Just disappear.
 
 
+51 # Willman 2012-08-18 17:43
He lost more money than most people make in a year on his or should I state, his "wife's" dancing horse.
Maybe the horse should pee in a cup for Willard Romoney
 
 
+31 # doneasley 2012-08-19 07:37
Quoting Willman:
He lost more money than most people make in a year on his or should I state, his "wife's" dancing horse.
Maybe the horse should pee in a cup for Willard Romoney


The horse's urin would be cleaner than Mitt's. I still can't believe that nobody, but NOBODY, has questioned the $77,000 spent on Refalca - which must be a talking horse.
 
 
+79 # RF Schatten 2012-08-18 17:56
I'll tell you completely, all about my plans...after the elections!! Meanwhile, trust me.
Never trust a man, who starts a sentence with "Trust Me"
 
 
+92 # Capn Canard 2012-08-18 18:31
Mitt Romney, is there anything he doesn't lie about? Sorry Carl, but comparing Mitt Romney to stoners is insulting to stoners.
 
 
+54 # Buddha 2012-08-18 19:52
LOL, and we both have the same problem. It is as tough for us stoners to lay off the kush as it is for Romoney to lay off bending the tax laws until they scream to further enrich himself. The kush and personal enrichment are both addictions tough to break! The problem is us stoners, at least if you are a poor minority, go to jail for our addiction...the Romoney's of the world, IF they are ever caught, just work out a deal with the IRS for a fraction of the tax debt and they move on to cheat again.
 
 
-70 # FDRva 2012-08-18 20:56
Agreed. Mitt Romney is a conservative blowhard.

Unfortunately that does not change the fact that Barack Obama--has out-Bushed George W. And has been a poor president.
Mirror, mirror on the wall...

More Wall Street Bailouts & more troops in the Middle East.

If Pres Obama green-lights an nuclear attack against Iran before election day will that convince you that he is more evil--than lesser???

Or does his complexion get him a pass for that too among the guilty liberal set?

Naw, don't worry, he'll likely wait till after the election to show his true colors--unless political expediency dictates otherwise...
 
 
+46 # pernsey 2012-08-19 04:44
The article is about Mitt, and your Fox news facts mean nothing.
 
 
0 # FDRva 2012-10-08 23:25
I worked for George McGovern, against Nixon in 1972.

Like FDR--and the Nuremberg Tribunals-- I oppose aggressive war, and wonder about this new Green, Gay, pro-war, pro-Wall Street Democratic Party.
 
 
+49 # Billbb 2012-08-19 08:51
I'm very disappointed in Obama in some ways but he's nothing like the extremists we'll have running things if we don't vote Obama. The Supreme Court alone is reason to vote for Obama.

I don't know how to get the country out of the corruption of electoral money controlling our government but Robme and R'Ayan will be ruinous.
 
 
+35 # Barbara K 2012-08-19 11:27
Obama has no intention of any nuclear attack on any country, you have him confused with your nutjob buddies. Repeating the lies on FAKE NOOZ doesn't make them true. Romneyhood is much more likely to do that, as he has already insulted many countries, and will have us in a war faster than anyone. He can't even be civil to other Heads of State, he is the rudest freak to run for office. The faster we can get him out of the limelight, the better. He has lived in an Ivory Tower all his life and know nothing of how the rest of us live every day. He's nothing but a soulless, lying, empty suited tax dodger. Nothing American about him, except his money before he sends that out of the country too. Being wealthy doesn't make a person nice, it makes him rich. He is not presidential material no matter how they giftwrap him.
 
 
+16 # coach777b 2012-08-19 11:52
And now we pause for a message from our FauxNews sponsors!
 
 
+7 # bmiluski 2012-08-21 08:24
FDRva......wow those family nights in front of FOX News has surely paid off. You're even more ignorant.
The Wall St. bailouts were started by GWBush.
President Obama has pulled troops OUT of Iraq and 40,000 will be WITHDRAWN out of Afghanistan by the end of 2012.
Bush never had the minority senate leader declare that the number one priority of the republicans will be to make sure that President Obama's term is a failure. The republicans could care less about the economy and the American people. All they cared about was President Obama being a one term president. I want to thank you for helping them try to accomplish just that.
 
 
0 # FDRva 2012-09-04 17:06
Sorry but I oppose this President--but don't fit your insulting profile.

I oppose President Obama because he expanded Bush's Wall Street Bailouts & did not close Guantanamo & adopted Cheney's totalitarian Unitary Executive doctrine. I back single payer healthcare, Obama--like Romney--wants taxpayer subsides of HMO health insurance cartels.

I knocked on doors for George McGovern in Keene NH in 1972, and as a kid attended the August 28, 1963 March on Washington--mad e famous by the words "I have a Dream."

Somehow, I do not think that dream included having a president of color who continued so many of George Bush's policies.

Many of you make the racist assumption that just because Harvard graduate Obama has a black complexion therefore he must be progressive. He is not and you have been had.
 
 
+45 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-08-18 22:07
The recent white board entertainment skits presented to us by the Romney/Ryan, or better said, Ryan/Romney dog and pony show, remind me of how the GOP went after Clinton as he tried to parse his words.
Besides debating what the word 'is' means, Clinton said, "I did not have sex with that women."

What Romney is trying to get away with is the parsing of exactly what 'paying taxes' means. He said that he paid 13+% of his income in taxes. He did not say he paid that amount in Federal taxes. He could be referring to all the property taxes he paid on all his homes and properties. He could be including the sales taxes he paid on all the luxury items he bought, I'm sure he had to pay a sales tax on 'buying' a special horse.

In his mind he feels completely honest in using that white board of his to simply add up all the 'taxes' he has paid and do some very simple math.

If a company like GM can wind up not paying any corporate income taxes while blatantly celebrating multi-billion dollar profits, a Romney can easily work the system likewise.
 
 
+41 # Old Uncle Dave 2012-08-19 07:23
Yes, Romney is very careful to always say he paid "taxes" and never "income taxes."
 
 
+12 # MindDoc 2012-08-19 14:11
Funny - "dog and pony" is just such a fitting term for the life and actions of Romney! :-) Maybe a metaphor for his taxes, too!
 
 
+30 # pietheyn 2012-08-18 23:02
Me thinx the devil is in the deductions!
 
 
+14 # angelfish 2012-08-19 00:44
Exactly!
 
 
+19 # Mrcead 2012-08-19 02:31
Pretty much said it all there. He has to at least match his father in his conviction alone, else we have to surmise he's just not that serious about being the best President he can be - especially if he has some dodgy tax activity needing a wash. This is just another time passing gig to Willard, he gets bored easily.
 
 
+35 # James Smith 2012-08-19 03:00
Mitt should pay attention to the Mantra of all the right wingers who want to do away with all personal privacy, "If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear."
 
 
+30 # Scott479 2012-08-19 03:40
I think O'Donnell of MSNBC has it right-he's a tax evading millionaire who was granted amnesty and so avoided felony charges.
 
 
+19 # kalpal 2012-08-19 04:11
McCain's expertise in tax return analysis leaves much to be desired. Who looked at the tax forms for McCain?
 
 
+3 # bmiluski 2012-08-21 08:27
If his expertise in tax retrun alalysis is as good as his expertise in picking a running mate, we need to worry.
 
 
+28 # sameasiteverwas 2012-08-19 05:28
Actually, the case is more like the laws now in effect in certain states, where, when applying for public benefits, you are required to undergo a drug test. Romney is applying to become the recipient of our tax dollars -- he really should show how clean he is. More, if the public arena is allowed to invade the citizenry's privacy so egregiously -- it should be a REQUIREMENT that he do so. If voter suppression laws can be passed at this late date, so close to the election -- why can't a law be introduced and passed right now that candidates for public office be required to release ten years of returns?
 
 
-27 # JackB 2012-08-19 07:30
And as 25 year old muck-raking stoner shall lead them.
 
 
+19 # Billbb 2012-08-19 08:54
The muck is Robme's, not Carl Gibson's...
 
 
+10 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-19 13:24
You do not have the mentality to be a 'Stoner"
 
 
+4 # MEBrowning 2012-08-21 09:44
Muckraking is a good thing!
 
 
+37 # ilenewells 2012-08-19 07:46
If Romney can't handle the heat over his taxes, then he can't handle the heat over decisions he might make as POTUS. Therefore he is unqualified to be POTUS.
 
 
-32 # JackB 2012-08-19 10:03
Heat. He can't take the heat? Do you honestly consider Cole's rant to be "heat". This nonsense is what liberals view as putting pressure on Romney? Cole is so over the top he is funny - comic relief.

The pressure - if there really is any - is on the liberals. They are trying so hard to make an issue of this & he is ignoring them. They may be forced to try & make a case for Obama's based on his track record &, since they are avoiding it like the plague, they obviously don't want any part of that.
 
 
-16 # RobertMStahl 2012-08-19 07:47
It's my pee and you cannot ruin the entire justice of the planet just because you can take it, and take the cake, too. Ever hear of property rights and the Constitution? The Magna Carta and what has happened to the Forest since?

Profit should be related to productivity. But, that would take a creature who understood what it meant to have an opposing thumb, to know the difference that made a difference, to have hindsight and knowledge of the difference between symmetry and asymmetry. Read Gregory Bateson's Steps to an Ecology of Mind and you will realize why the trauma remains. Besides, he is a criminal, not even a step above (Ron Paul, for instance). For what ignorance there is about symmetry and asymmetry, one is no better than the other, and you cannot get rid of either, not even for usurious purposes related to tax or victimless crime. Just what is the US war on Latin America? http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/266-32/11395-the-us-war-on-latin-america

Ever hear of Indira Singh? William Binney?
 
 
+5 # JSRaleigh 2012-08-19 08:16
I'd have a hard time coming up with 23 years of tax returns. I put everything older than 2005 through the shredder last year.

It was all Wages & Standard Deductions anyway.

If I needed to release them, could I get copies from the IRS?
 
 
+8 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-19 13:27
I had all copies since I started working but I couldnot put the Mule thru the work any longer so I kept the last ten. Everyone should keep at least ten years in case the boys come to audit.

Lot better looking to have them, then have to cave.
 
 
+5 # MJnevetS 2012-08-20 05:34
JSRaleigh - No one is seeking 23 years of tax returns. (You are only supposed to keep 7 years of tax returns, and , yes, the Federal gov't. has copies if you don't) In fact, 2008 and 2009 for Romney are really the key returns. The 2009 return filed in 2010, would have his residence at the time of the filing, in 2010. There is no doubt that to the extent he paid taxes they were lower than the average working American, that is not the issue. As has been said elsewhere (although not in this article) of MUCH more relevance, is where his tax return indicated he resided! To avoid a REAL issue, i.e. proof of his election fraud by voting in the Massachusetts special election for Scott Brown, he has claimed that, at the time, (he had no property in Mass.) he and his wife WERE LIVING IN HIS SON'S BASEMENT?! (I know, that is often the case with the elderly super rich, they must move into their children's basement!) The statement on the tax returns is a Federal verification of residence. If it listed anywhere other than his son's basement, he committed voter fraud, a Federal offense. He may well have paid taxes and, as he insists never less that 13%! (funny, I paid 35% Federal taxes, plus state and local taxes!) However, it is the statement as to residence that could sink him. He certainly committed voter fraud if he voted for Scott Brown and was not a MA resident, yet no one in the media seems to care that this presidential candidate may have committed a Federal election CRIME!
 
 
+21 # Sallyport 2012-08-19 09:12
What Mitt's hiding is not so much the amount of money he paid in taxes -- it's shameful enough that at his level of wealth he pays at a much lower rate than most of the middle class -- but what dodges & loopholes he used to arrive at his figure, since those loopholes are the ones they want to do away with to make their insane recipe for tax reform neutral.
 
 
+10 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-19 13:29
I believe it is going to show us the Bain/Olympic bs plus capitol gains he probably made selling out contracts for Olympics to China..
Loved his wife's smile. She could care less as long as her lifestyle continues as it is if not better. Can you imagine her broke, having to pay rent, food actually make it herself, even know what the utilities are. No maids, nannys, no butlers or gardeners. Her car would have to be on a parking space. Oh No
 
 
+5 # bmiluski 2012-08-21 08:30
Even better.....no car.....she has to take the bus. OH NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! !
 
 
+16 # vgirl1 2012-08-19 10:04
There is only one response to Mittens' constant stonewalling on this issue.

PROVE IT!
 
 
+23 # paradoctor 2012-08-19 12:25
To: Mitt Romney
From: Human Resources Department
Re: Tax Disclosure

Dear Mr. Romney:

Be advised that thorough financial disclosure is a precondition for
employment in the position that you seek. We will also require a
medical examination, a drug test, and at least two references;
specifically from the State of Massachusetts and from Bain Capital. We
know that you worked there, and we need to know what you did there.

Please respond soonest. Compliance is not optional.


Signed,
Human Resources Department
 
 
+8 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-19 13:33
We would like to see a report from your workers to see how you handle things when they happen. Reference from three workers who worked with you long term.
 
 
+7 # Art947 2012-08-19 14:16
Quoting paradoctor:
To: Mitt Romney
From: Human Resources Department
Re: Tax Disclosure

Dear Mr. Romney:

Please respond soonest. Compliance is not optional.


Signed,
Human Resources Department


And if we fiund that you lied in any way, shape or form, then you will be summarily executed!
 
 
+9 # MindDoc 2012-08-19 14:08
At least, Ann assures us, he's "just golden", as opposed to pure platinum - at least in the 'integrity' department. (The rest seems fairly platinum plated, perhaps the reason why he seems so rigid.)

As for the 'stoner' analogy, well, his history (for example bullying gays and ridiculing people for fun) doesn't reveal any secret substance abuse (other than money & job exporting) - truly if he's a 'druggy' in any character sense, it seems to me he's addicted only to... lies. Fantasies within his bubble. More and more, greater & greater 'tolerance' in dishing out pure tripe and then denying it or flipping it.... after all, nobody challenges it.

For sure, Mr. betting man (maybe that's his 'poison'?)... perhaps you'd be best off taking your medicine now, and telling a truth or two, rather than hiding your dirty little secrets. They'll come out, anyway, with or without your spin and the SuperPac lie pushers.
 
 
+7 # epcraig 2012-08-19 15:50
I do not need to vote for a man who chooses to conceal his tax returns. I wonder how many others take that attitude given I am disinclined to vote for him anyway. It is a convenient excuse.
 
 
+3 # Electricrailwaygod 2012-08-19 19:23
C'mon Romney, JUST PEE IN THE GOD DAMN CUP! Okay? (Come clean on your tax investments for the generalpublic to see)!
 
 
+7 # Texas Aggie 2012-08-19 19:52
I haven't read all the comments, but I didn't see any speculation about his 2009 return which McCain wouldn't have seen. It might show that Romney took advantage of an amnesty for people who were hiding their money in Swiss bank accounts illegally. Instead of huge fines and jail time when caught, they only had to pay back taxes and 5% penalty.
 
 
+4 # granny6 2012-08-20 07:46
I thought living in the basement of a relatives house was kids just out of college or newlyweds. Somehow I just can't see Ann Romney doing that.
 
 
+6 # Mellifluous 2012-08-20 21:04
As a stoner by inclination and an American by birth and practice, I resent and reject the false equivalence of being forced to submit to unreasonable searches and seizures --piss tests -- as a requirement of applying for even crappy little jobs, and the entirely reasonable demand that voters be shown financial records that can prove that Mitt Romney is not a crook.

Yes, I can appreciate the metaphor of staying clean prior to a job interview, but the premise of this piece rubs me wrong as it implicitly endorses normalization of the failed, brutal, wasteful War on Drugs by assuming that such practices are not only commonplace, but reasonable.

Incidentally, the War on Drugs (and by extension, its offspring the War on Terror) are exactly the place in American politics where all the "conservative" rhetoric about freedom, the nanny state and job-killing overregulation is suddenly abandoned and their logic goes topsy-turvy. Suddenly, citizens can no longer be trusted to make decisions for ourselves, pretrial confiscation of assets is not only permissible but expected and the government is entitled to deprive citizens of their liberty on the flimsiest of pretexts. I'm not minimizing the ill effects of drug abuse and or the horrors of addiction, but forty years ago we had more pot smokers and less bathtub speed, more support for education and far fewer prisoners and I believe less opiate addiction and prescription drug abuse.
 
 
+4 # billeeboy 2012-08-21 13:33
Well, employers are free to not hire stoners or others who refuse to take a drug test; Americans are free to not hire on as President someone who refuses to reveal their tax returns....just sayin`! And hey, pass me back my doobie......... ..
 

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