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Nader writes: "The tough times in America continue. Tens of millions of Americans are feeling the squeeze and are suffering diminished livelihoods ... Against this background, what have the two parties done?"

Ralph Nader doing an interview during his 2008 Presidential campaign, 08/01/08. (photo: Scrape TV)
Ralph Nader doing an interview during his 2008 Presidential campaign, 08/01/08. (photo: Scrape TV)



Open Letter to RNC, DNC

By Ralph Nader, Reader Supported News

03 August 12

 

ear Chairpersons:

The tough times in America continue. Tens of millions of Americans are feeling the squeeze and are suffering diminished livelihoods. More than 15 million children go to bed hungry at night. Unemployment and underemployment affect more than twenty million adults. Calls for cutting into the core of programs for the needy, the vulnerable and the disadvantaged regularly emanate from Congress.

These calls are coming most insistently from the Republican leaders. Congressman John Boehner, Eric Cantor, Paul Ryan and Senator Mitch McConnell are demanding severe reductions in effective social programs and more tax cuts for the wealthy and the large corporations, many of which have been paying very little or no federal income tax, such as General Electric.

Against this background, what have the two parties done? This year they have each taken $18.2 million in taxpayer money for their national political conventions in Tampa, Florida and Charlotte, North Carolina later this summer. The money comes from taxpayers via the Treasury Department's "$3 Tax Check-off" found on tax return forms.

Taxpayers who check-off are told that the money generally goes "to the Presidential Election Campaign Fund." Taxpayers are not told the first priority is funding for the party nominating conventions, not the general election nominees and primary election candidates.

Taxpayers who opt for this partial public funding of elections may not like funding political extravaganzas for the two parties, festooned by banners, musical entertainment, food, drink and other amenities. They might not want their tax dollars associated with nearby lavish corporate hospitality parties loaded with lobbyists lusting for access, subsidies and other special privileges.

They might not want to have their tax dollars mixed with corporate contributions to the two conventions from the oil, drug, insurance, banking, nuclear, military weapons and agribusiness-food processing giant multinationals.

When your two parties in Congress established this slush fund for the conventions years ago, they tried lamely to justify the use of taxpayer contributions for the conventions by declaring that televised conventions were educational presentations; live democracy in action. That didn't pass the laugh test then or now. The nominations are all wrapped up. The conventions will be coronations of Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. The party platforms are done deals.

Party rituals, the mutual admiration exchanges and the scripted, pre-cleared speeches by selected speakers are the highlights of these uncontested, predetermined, rigged shows of inaction.

Pay for your own parties, your own liquor and your own entertainment.

Return the misled taxpayers' $36.4 million to the U.S. Treasury now. Or if you wish to receive some benefit from this modern version of "l'etat c'est moi," donate the money to the Tampa and Charlotte charities that are feeding the hungry poor and homeless. Their menu will certainly be different than yours, but they (with their strapped budgets) certainly will be pleased by the gesture.

I have sent copies of this communication to charitable associations that provide food and other necessities for the growing number of impoverished Americans in Charlotte and Tampa. The recipients were Second Harvest Food Bank, Loaves and Fishes, and Faith Soldiers in Charlotte, North Carolina; and Feeding America, Kaye Prox Food Bank, and Metropolitan Ministries in Tampa, Florida. Those compassionate providers and their volunteers, reached on the telephone, were gracious regarding the meaning of this message to you.

Other citizen, charitable and religious groups in these two metropolitan areas may be inclined to emphasize this request with their own manifestations later next month. You would be well-advised to wisely render their reactions unnecessary by taking this humane initiative.

Should you not respond to this plea, which I am sure would be supported by the vast majority of the American people of all political persuasions, your conventions could be labeled the "Marie Antoinette cabal of 2012." Surely, you remember what she suggested.

Sincerely yours,

Ralph Nader



Ralph Nader is a consumer advocate, lawyer and author. His most recent book - and first novel - is "Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us." His most recent work of non-fiction is "The Seventeen Traditions."

Reader Supported News is the Publication of Origin for this work. Permission to republish is freely granted with credit and a link back to Reader Supported News.

 

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+119 # NanFan 2012-08-03 10:54
Quote:
...the 'Marie Antoinette cabal of 2012.' Surely, you remember what she suggested.
And surely, you remember her ultimate outcome because of her hubris and total disdain of the people she served!

Good on ya', Ralph! Thanks for sticking it to them, and in the meantime, letting the American people, once again, learn the truth.

N.
 
 
+85 # luvdoc 2012-08-03 11:00
A pox upon the greedy, thoughtless SOB's. May they rot in their gated mansions and starve for want of a can opener. luvdoc
 
 
-75 # Trueblue Democrat 2012-08-03 11:07
Ah, Ralph.

If we ever even once got a mea culpa from you for your part in "electing" that hypocritical coward and world-class dunce George W. Bush, I would give some attention to your mewlings and pulings.

But typical of your kind, you stand above the fray, seemingly oblivious to what you have precipitated -- in this case: the AD 2001 coronation of Dubya with its attendant destruction of the US economy, rape of our natural resources, pillage of our treasury, evisceration of our Bill of Rights, and loss of our international reputation.
 
 
+113 # CAMUS1111 2012-08-03 11:31
Gore, plus the Supremes and voter suppression, cost Gore the election.Stop blaming Nader, who has done more for this country anyone in the last 75 years.
 
 
+97 # dkonstruction 2012-08-03 11:48
And, so of course the fact that Gore won the election and it was stolen by SCOTUS is not important. Nor is the fact that the repubs illegally threw off at least 20,000 african americans in florida which (if he had actually lost) was what really cost Gore the election (not to mention his role as the candidate or his decision to keep clinton as far from the campaign as possible). Nor was it the ballot that was so confusing that many democratic seniors mistakenly voted for Pat Buchanan (even he said so)....But, no, the only thing that matters is to be able to blame someone who has probably saved more american lives (by fighting for seat belts) than anyone else in the country not to mention his work for consumer rights and environmental protections...n o none of that matters. after all they are merely facts, which as Ronald Reagan said are "stupid things". So, now the dems are up in arms about purging the voting roles but for the most part said nothing about this at the time of the election of 2000...no, it's all ralph's fault.
 
 
+85 # BridgeWalker 2012-08-03 11:55
Ralph Nader is one of few American patriots, for that matter, global citizens, who do not need to apologize for anything. Nader blamers should continue looking through the playbook of the American empire architects of the last 30 odd years to discover why the shrub was elected. We are at the brink of economic collapse, of global weather collapse, and of apathetic moral collapse and Ralph Nader tried the best that he could, in spite of ignorant citizen indifference, to prevent what he foresaw would happen.

You want to blame someone for the election and rise of the shrub, go back to the evil, twisted, oil-loving roots from whence the shrub sprang and read a little history to discover the inaccuracy of your statements. Also, recall the cover of the Daily Mirror in 2004 with the headline that stated, "How can 59,054,087 people be so DUMB"? The same can be said of the DUMB-BELLS who elected him the first time around.

Wise up, he who gets elected to any of the highest offices in this country is hand-picked by the 0.01% and that's the way it is. Sad, huh?
 
 
+10 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-03 20:13
Yup because everyone is too lazy to do something by organizing Peacefully and saying No to Government

Funny how other Countries War to get Freedom and we let ours slip away Can;t blame anyone one but ones self for that!!
 
 
+34 # LstNailinDaKoffin 2012-08-03 13:09
Hey why don't you sycophantic "lesser of 2 evils" voters EVER blame the 50% of the country that doesn't vote at all instead of the 1% that votes with their conscience?

Do you know why? I do. It's because it's soo easy to scapegoat 3rd party voters. It's because you propagandists CREATE the 50% that doesn't vote. It's exactly how your propaganda works (the lesser of 2 evils argument is propaganda. just google propaganda techniques if you doubt me)

You see the average citizen is confronted with the LIE that they have to vote for the dem or the rep or their vote won't count, won't matter, and will let the greater evil win. And that becomes our reality because we dont demand an alternative.

So what happens? well 50% comply with your propaganda and 50% just turn away and give up altogether because they'd rather be told "if you dont vote then dont complain" than be blamed for the greater evil winning.

So if you get to blame us for bush then I get to blame YOU for every rightwing policy shoved onto us by obama in the name of "compromise". And I'll blame YOU for every rightwing policy he inflicts on us in his 2nd term... and... so will the voters in 2016. YOU will be responsible for the next GOP president in 2016 because YOU only advocated for a rightwing democrat because he pretended to be a liberal during election season.
 
 
+9 # lexy677 2012-08-03 18:42
Let'em hear it!!!!
 
 
+16 # WestWinds 2012-08-04 02:18
I think half the people in this country don't vote is for a couple of reasons: (1) they have no idea what the two different parties stand for, let alone individuals in state elections, and (2) they have been so systematically disenfranchised from this country ("just go shopping") that they don't feel one vote only can count for anything, especially in view of the electoral college which disregards the popular vote and does it's own thing. Our whole system needs a good shoring up to insist that people vote. In some countries, if you don't vote, you get fined!
 
 
+9 # 8myveggies 2012-08-04 09:57
I was in Ecuador during an election and everyone hustled to get their butts to the booth because, by law, they have to vote.

When I ask Americans if they vote at least half say, "I don't pay attention. I don't know what's going on." I don't think that most of them have an understanding that goes so far as to include the workings of the electoral college.

Never, never again will I vote for the lesser of two evils. The status quo can go * itself.

Thank you Mr. Nader. You're a true American hero.
 
 
-28 # Patch 2012-08-03 13:26
Trueblue, I agree with you. Mr. Nader would have a great deal more credibility today if he took responsibility for his part in the 2000 election. Actions have consequences and his actions at that time were reprensibile.

However, I also agree with Mr. Nader's letter to the RNC and DNC. He does point out facts that aid the parties' agenda. He also has some excellent suggestions as to what to do with the money. They won't listen to him, of course.

The thumbs down score you've received Tureblue is a knee jerk reaction. We complain about how stupid conservatives are but when liberals react without thinking it results in the same stupidy.
 
 
+35 # Stephanie Remington 2012-08-03 16:02
Sorry Patch,

The facts just don't support blaming Nader for 2000. With the voter suppression, blatant electoral fraud, the media blindly repeating any negative statement about Gore regardless of how blatantly inaccurate, and topped off by the corrupt SCOTUS decision, I'm very surprised that you'd buy into the B.S. that Ralph Nader – simply by exercising his right as a citizen to run for office – caused Bush to win.

Bush didn't win the election, despite all the cheating and propaganda. Blaming Ralph Nader is just easier than tackling a much bigger problem – the total corruption of the two parties currently deemed to be the only ones that can win.
 
 
-8 # lexy677 2012-08-03 18:44
No one says it was Ralph Nader's fault. All they said was that Nader was partialy responsible for "shrub" getting close enough to steal the presidency.
 
 
+4 # engelbach 2012-08-04 06:39
No. People who continue to vote for the lesser evil instead of for their own interests are totally to blame.
 
 
-22 # Trueblue Democrat 2012-08-03 16:38
Patch, you and I know what thinking people have long understood -- you shoot a sacred cow at your own peril. It can be done with fewer repercussions, of course, if done correctly.

Do you suppose I might have gotten fewer thumbs down it I had cut the cows throat and chased it around the abattoir until it bled out?
 
 
-7 # WestWinds 2012-08-04 02:21
I'm willing to cut Nader some slack here. Lawyers are trained never to incriminate themselves; he's just acting on that training. I'm not saying it's right, I'm just saying it is.
 
 
+9 # engelbach 2012-08-04 06:38
Nader has principles.

That anyone would blame him for that speaks volumes about your lack of them.

Some country. Some politics. Cowardice is rewarded. Courage is disdained.
 
 
+13 # oakes721 2012-08-03 16:16
Ah, Trueblue
It's been said that when we vote for the lesser of two evils, we soon forget that we are voting FOR EVIL.
 
 
-25 # Trueblue Democrat 2012-08-03 16:54
And Confucius said: He who urinate into strong headwind become hee haw.
 
 
+4 # engelbach 2012-08-04 06:41
There was no headwind in 2000. There was total inertia by the Democrats and cowardice by the lesser evil crowd.
 
 
+3 # Patch 2012-08-04 22:46
Equating Gore with evil is unjust. He may have been part of the system but he would never have perpetrated the evil that Bush did. We would not have gone to Iraq, we would not have the ultra-conservat ive Supreme Court, we would not have the assault on the environment, we would have addressed global warming, and 9/11 might never have happened.

As for Nader, if he had let go of his ego and supported Gore, the Florida debacle might not have happened because the choice of Gore would have been too much to dinker with.
 
 
+5 # oakes721 2012-08-05 13:35
The voting should transfer ie: Nader votes to Gore as a second choice rather than against both preferences. It's the system that is flawed to divide rather than to add the obvious.
 
 
-21 # lexy677 2012-08-03 18:12
Readers here don't always like to hear the truth do they? Trueblue Democrat?. I am with you 100%.
 
 
+15 # WestWinds 2012-08-04 02:10
You can't lay all of this at Nader's door. We the People put the 78 Tea-baggers into the House during the last Mid-term election. It's We the People who keep legitimizing Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly. It's We the People who keep voting against our own best interests. It's We the People who allowed our beautiful Second New Deal system (that was working wonderfully, thank you very much) to slip out of our hands while we drank our beers and watched the play-offs.

Okay, you don't like the fact that Ralph stood up for himself and something different. You don't like that he didn't tow the party line; never mind that the party deserted us, not the other way around.

But Ralph Nader is a brave man who has stood up against the insanity this country has so actively embraced. And you should see the strides the Green Party is making! I think they are going to be a force in 2012, then you will be thanking Nader for having the spine that both the Republicans and the Democrats failed, and failed miserably, to develop to stand up to being bought off by the 17 greedy old white men behind the green velvet curtain.
 
 
+9 # rockieball 2012-08-04 06:19
Gore should also be blamed for losing the election. To me he lost it when in the debates he agreed with the Idiot several times. In debates one never agrees with an opponent Rove took advantage of this in later ads. What about 2004 are you going to blame that on Nader?
 
 
+79 # BobM 2012-08-03 11:07
If only Gore hadn't cost Nader the 2000 election...
 
 
+13 # bmiluski 2012-08-03 12:09
LOL...........
 
 
+42 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-08-03 12:25
It wasn't just Gore, it was also Bush and that corporation called the Presidential Debate Company. They conspired to keep Nader off the debate platform. According to them he didn't have enough public support to be considered a viable candidate, and thus take part in the national debate. Well, if that was so, how could he possibly affect the elections of the stars of the shows. Ever since the League of Women Voters, that radical, upstart organization (only got the vote in 1920) had the running of the Presidential Debates taken away from them, did we have this sham of fair debates.
I hear that the Republicans consider Ross Perot the spoiler for their guy. But, if you try to compare the two, Perot and Nader, well that's just ugly to the eyes. Ugh!
I never check off that little box. I had a feeling that it didn't go to the right people or places. Now I know I was correctamondo, thanks to Ralph Nader.
 
 
+39 # Okieangels 2012-08-03 12:59
I certainly hope that people who live in states where Jill Stein is on the ballot will vote for her. She was arrested this week for protesting Fannie Mae foreclosures. You WON'T see Obama or Mitt getting arrested for taking a stand on anything.
 
 
+1 # engelbach 2012-08-04 06:42
Excellent!
 
 
+48 # Dom 2012-08-03 11:18
Again, an informative and refreshing expose' on our Country's elected, oops- entrenched politicians.

Diogenes of Sinope, used his lifestyle and behavior to criticize social values and institutions in a corrupt society.

Mr. Nader, with social media today, facebook, tweets, ect. you may very well raise a "hue and cry" that corruption can not ignore?

Thank you for speaking for us.
 
 
-77 # gioia 2012-08-03 11:23
I do not want to hear from Nader on any issue in this or any other publication. His egotism-only I-ME-I Nader the Pure- can save the world even if it requires destroying it, facilitated the election of Bush which was absolutely predictable and resulted in this terrible recession and loss of sanity in government.
I do not want to see that man or hear his hubristic voice ever again.
...and I am -and always have been- a progressive. If RSN is going to regress to the Ralph Nader mode then there is nothing here for me to learn...lean forward and learn from past mistakes on the left. Don't relive it by giving yesterday's man, Nader, print space.
 
 
+41 # CAMUS1111 2012-08-03 11:47
you, sir, are no progressive.
 
 
+50 # Glen 2012-08-03 12:09
Apparently, gioia, you do not know Nader well, most especially his history and research. On the other hand you are reading entirely too much into Nader's warnings and this essay, which surely speaks to your own concerns about the U.S. government.

Also, I must encourage you to study the election of 2000. If you do take the time to do so, you will realize that Nader was a candidate, but not a crowned head. George W. Bush was that with the crown. Gore was never meant to win any more than Nader or anyone else. Once you research you will see that the so-called election was totally corrupt and totally choreographed in favor of Bush.

Totally illegal and had nothing to do with Nader.
 
 
+25 # Glen 2012-08-03 12:12
Also, gioia, keep in mind RSN is not here to please all of us, they are here to inform. Pick and choose your articles of interest - at will.
 
 
-16 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-08-03 12:31
Gioia, talk about a Tax Nightmare! If you believe half of what you just conveyed here, you have more than a problem with taxes and Ralph Nader; you have a basic problem with credibility.
 
 
+11 # oakes721 2012-08-03 16:40
There ARE no Winners in a RIGGED GAME. We ALL LOSE. From the Electoral College to the intervention of the Supreme Court to Gore's bowing out. The FIX was in and has become the status quo for the dues-paying members only to defend against. God forbid that he be allowed to attempt another good deed by the growers of sour grapes.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-03 20:23
Then why are youhere could have gone to different thread.
Gore, Nader are intellectual bores to many because they do not understand Science and so they did not vote for them as they did not feel either could id with them.

Perhaps true of both, very true of Bush.
But everyone has the right to run for any Office. That we allowed others to put Bush in was wrong...but what about the second time around No Nader or Gore around for that...
Nader did some very good things, I disagreed with the Corvair. I got to tell him so. He is very interested in trying to get America fixed. He can be very Meish. But over all he is a good egg, just could not get enough behind him.
I do not remember him slandering or being slandered. They were too above the Poor and Average Persons grasp.
 
 
+2 # engelbach 2012-08-04 06:43
You're no p[rogessive. You're a lesser evil "defensive." You don't stand up for your own interests, so you're in no position to criticize those who do.
 
 
+25 # frankscott 2012-08-03 11:40
the fact that so many hate filled microscopic mentalities are still kvetching about the fictional nader responsibility for bush victory - how dare he and his voters presume to believe in democracy when our chosen microbrains know we must all worship at the corporate throne - may indicate that fundamentalist know-nothing fanatics are more numerous on what passes for a left than on the reality of the right..
 
 
+13 # jmcg 2012-08-03 12:04
Come on, people. We can argue all day about whether Nader should be held responsible for the Gore-Bush fiasco. At the end of the day there is more than enough blame to go around.

What everyone has to become very clear about is that the only a few ways a third party is ever going to be succesful. The first is to start by being successful at the local level and building national strength from the ground up. A second is a way that would help bypass the need to build locally, and that is to take all private money out of elections - every candidate have the same access and ability to get his or her message out. I don't see that happening anytime soon. And everyone has to realize that even if a spectacularly charismatic third party candidate managed to win the White House, he or she would be severely limited in what they could do faced with a Congress still controlled in some combination by the two current parties.

While this token protest of taxpayers money being sent in self-congratula tory celebration is, perhaps, apt, it doesn't address the real issue: taxpayer contributions that could be used to try and start the process of honest, publically financed elections being used for the self-gratificat ion of the elected elite.
 
 
+24 # bmiluski 2012-08-03 12:36
You are absolutely right.... the only way a third party is ever going to be succesful is by being successful at the local level and building national strength from the ground up.
However, giving every candidate the same access and bility to get his/her message will go for naught as long as CITIZENS UNITED is around.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-03 20:28
We are the Media of Today so it is our responsiblity to organize and refer people to articles, facts. Continue un annoyingly to show people by our own behavoir, voice. It is a Responsibility that I see few willing to shoulder.
Much easier to be here sniveling .... No one to blame but ourselves. the Party counts on it.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-03 20:26
People have to seriously start backing third party. For all the bs I read on sites, I wonder how many would put their Vote where their Mouth is.
Not a one has formed a Committee, started local organizing because they spend too much time on PC
 
 
+3 # engelbach 2012-08-04 06:45
Whether a third part can win soon or not, it is still necessary to keep pushing the idea with candidacies like Nader's.
 
 
+38 # jacksmedium 2012-08-03 12:11
Let's face it folks, George Bush and his governor brother "Jeb" with the full might and dishonesty of the Florida board of elections stole the 2000 Presidential Election. Thousands of voters were disenfranchised making for an excuse for the "Gang of Five" on the SCOTUS to enthrone Dubya. Ralph Nader not withstanding.
 
 
+30 # Skeptical1247 2012-08-03 12:14
Never let it be said that Americans are adept at keeping their eye on the ball. You are not. WHAT does Nader's history have to do with the fact that THIS article is cogent and valuable? Nothing...

An appropriate and intelligent response to the article is a thank you to Mr. Nader for the heads-up regarding a bit of wasteful and monumental stupidity, via a share of the article on FB for instance. Almost everything else in the comments is pure mental masturbation accomplishing exactly NOTHING.
 
 
-18 # stu 2012-08-03 12:22
While I don't believe he cost Gore the election I do think he should of run for Congress or Senate build up a constituency before running for president. Even if he had gotten elected Pres he could of never gotten support to pass anything by congress.Accomp lishing nothing what about Nader's rant of Corvair which kept small cars from being produced for 30 years.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-03 20:33
Very true and it proves by the down votes how very little people understand the divide and conquer attitude of Government.

I felt also he did ram the Corvair which cost him Politically even for all the good points he made, got passed.

He is very good at figures, he does have a very quick mind and rhetoric. I met him as he was working on the side of Environmentalis ts, Coming to GrassRoot Meetings across the USA....where have you all been? He is actually not unapproachable. But once he gets into a subject, you better have time, notepad, and try to learn.
 
 
+17 # Kathymoi 2012-08-03 12:22
Ralph, why aren't you running this year. We desperately need an alternative and it doesn't look like Bernie Sanders is going to run for president this year.
 
 
+10 # BridgeWalker 2012-08-03 12:46
Uh, hello! Jill Stein is truly a viable candidate. Start your research now before heading to the polls and going ... duh! Sorry, but please keep up with the news before making like comments. It's why we never have a chance.
 
 
-7 # jky1291 2012-08-03 16:03
While I agree with your sentiment concerning the 2 corrupt corporate political parties and appreciate your desire for a viable alternative, personally I find that the Green Party platform is a laundry list pandering to too many special interests with too many negatives for broad enough support to defeat the most powerful forces of money and corruption this world has ever seen. Alternatively, I would encourage every intelligent citizen wishing to save our nation to identify, recruit, and elect a 3rd Party presidential candidate who supports the limited, but essential for success, goals presented in the Contract for the American Dream upon which nearly everyone can agree, with opposition from only those supporting the status quo of the wealthy 1%.

http://contract.rebuildthedream.com/?rc=rtd_home

We cannot afford to diminish a unified sentiment that the status quo is unsustainable by overreaching with a pie in the sky platform that peals away critical support with every additional plank beyond the bare essentials we require to achieve fundamental changes in our political and economic systems to reestablish "government of the people, by the people, for the people".
 
 
+19 # Susan1989 2012-08-03 12:34
Can we skip the convention completely? How can we cut the safety net for te poor and spend so extravagantly. If we really wanted to live the pro life agenda, it should pertain to those already walking the planet who are living in poverty.
 
 
+19 # History gives us hope. 2012-08-03 13:19
Like so many of that Year 2000 majority who voted for Al Gore, I will always recall the extended election-year proceedings, protracted aftermath, and regrettable result with distaste. After an adult lifetime of holding Ralph Nader in the highest esteem, I disdained the role he chose for himself in that pivotal election.
Having stated this, I find it necessary to separate issues. In my estimation, Ralph Nader's half century of contributions to American life outweigh his presidential election foibles. Going forward, his analysis never fails when it comes to elucidation and common sense, which, as Mark Twain reminded a century ago, is not very common. For a lifetime, Mr. Nader has remained true to his father's lesson: Returning from school to his father's grocery store, the senior Nader never asked, "Ralph, what did you learn at school?" Instead the contentious grocer asked, "Ralph, how did they make you think?" So, to this day, Ralph Nader continues to make us think. And in the instance at hand, he is once again spot on.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-08-03 20:36
Very nice
 
 
+3 # History gives us hope. 2012-08-03 13:32
Like so many of that Year 2000 majority who voted for Al Gore, I will always recall the extended election-year proceedings, protracted aftermath, and regrettable result with distaste. After an adult lifetime of holding Ralph Nader in the highest esteem, I disdained the role he chose for himself in that pivotal election.
Having stated this, I find it necessary to separate issues. In my estimation, Ralph Nader's half century of contributions to American life outweigh his presidential election foibles. Going forward, his analysis never fails when it comes to elucidation and common sense, which, as Mark Twain reminded a century ago, is not very common. For a lifetime, Mr. Nader has remained true to his father's lesson. Returning from school to his father's grocery store, the youthful Nader was never asked, "Ralph, what did you learn at school today?" Instead, the contentious grocer asked, "Ralph, how did they make you think today?" So, to this day, Ralph Nader continues to invite us to think with his direct, factually steeped essays that always end with a direct-action pathway. And, in the instance at hand, he is spot on.
 
 
+12 # walt 2012-08-03 13:38
Well stated, Mr. Nader. Americans watch as both parties spend more time and effort on their party's parties than on doing what is best for America.

A great suggestion: End corporate money for elections and finance campaigns and elections from the public funds. Set strict guidelines and time limits so we might hear honest debate on the issues and not the dirty advertising campaigns we are all tired of.

Time for the RNC and DNC to step up and think outside the box!

If they can't do it, let's try for a new party! Yes, a third party! Mr. Nader knows about that.
 
 
+21 # josephhill 2012-08-03 13:41
If the DNC had spent more money in advertising for Gore (or Kerry) than they spent on keeping Ralph Nader off the ballot, their candidates MIGHT have squeaked by!

Instead, they did everything they could to vilify him, exclude him from the "debates" and convince their gullible "lesser evil" constituents that Nader was some kind of closet Republican.

The biggest obstacle to having genuinely OPEN and FREE elections with REAL (i.e., multi-party) alternatives to the "two" political parties that have brought this country to its knees and delivered OUR governance to multi-national corporations, is the "two" parties themselves.

They control the media and the electoral machinery that exclude ANY candidate not 'vetted' by the Establishment. Like the 'Cosa Nostra' crime families, the Dems and Reps present a united front against sharing their turf with ANY "outsiders".

Judging by all the crap we hear about Ralph Nader 'costing' the elections, they have succeeded magnificently. Smarten up, all you Nader bashers. Think OUTside the box these "two" parties have put us in. Stop kvetching and............

DEMAND FREE, OPEN AND INCLUSIVE ELECTIONS...or kiss our so-called democracy good-by!
 
 
+6 # jky1291 2012-08-03 16:24
An insightful, perceptive and accurate assessment that we all need to accept to fulfill our last hope of salvaging our democracy.
 
 
+3 # wrodwell 2012-08-03 14:12
Speaking of outsourcing, it's time to apply it to Congress, the Supreme Court and the Presidency. Petitions and money must be sent to major Wall Street bankers and/or the CEO's of major corporations. (Why not put the money in the hands of those who have tons of experience with the outsourcing process?) That said, I'm convinced they'll act in the best interests of our country given their long track record. Think of the money that can be made by selling off institutional relics like Congress and the White House with the proceeds distributed among the population as "bonuses?" As for governance, an online website will be established where everyone can have a voice thus eliminating the political class. Opinions will be tallied on a weekly basis - majority rules. This process eliminates the long delays and rancor that plagues our corrupt "democratic process". We need to stop mistrusting the Super Rich and give them even more power to exercise what they truly believe in - protecting America by making tons of money. (Don't we all secretly want to do that? Hello!) Thanks to their smart investments and a radical, but necessary change in governance, all Americans will now be guaranteed a monthly stipend to make up for the cumbersome task of looking for jobs that aren't really there. (Imagine never having to look for a job ever again; that's true freedom!) Monthly stipends will be tied to and determined by WalMart's profit index. It's time for America to get real and share the wealth.
 
 
+12 # reiverpacific 2012-08-03 14:36
"Against this background, what have the two parties done?" [quote from article].
The Democrats have let a healthy majority slip with little accomplished and no retribution for the causers of the depression -long predicted by more credible sources and still hanging on by it's long, sharp fingernails. And made it all so much worse by naive or typically foolish soft-pedaling attempts at conciliation with the irreconcilable.
The Rethgulican medievalists have "Just said NO" to everything, reason or none and continue to block anything even mildly progressive or populist even before it is proposed.
And if I might add a rider, the judiciary have come out and openly tilted vote-buying in favor of the purchasers.
It's really that simple.
 
 
-5 # Vicky Trippe 2012-08-03 15:07
Exit polls in both Florida and New Hampshire showed that in both states many more people than the margin by which Bush defeated Gore said that if Nader had not been on the ballot, they would have voted for Gore.

Because Bush won, he was able to change a liberal majority on the Supreme Court to a conservative majority--the majority that voted to uphold Citizens United.

If for no other reason, I will never forgive Nader for running in swing states even though he had been warned that his presence on the ballot in those states could likely throw the election to Bush.

He can say all he wants about residing on the left side of the political spectrum, but after 2000, I'll never believe him. Actions speak much louder than words.
 
 
+4 # Salus Populi 2012-08-03 16:18
1 of 2

Perhaps you should blame the Workers World Party. In Florida, more people voted for the Trotskyist candidate from WW than the margin between Gore and Bush when the vote was stopped by Rethug hired goons. If only the extreme leftists hadn't fielded a candidate, why, all the people that voted for them, or at least the majority, would no doubt have voted for "Mr. Occidental Petroleum" Al Gore.

Or, if all the ballots had been counted, Gore would have won. That must have been Nader's fault as well. Or hey, if Gore had carried Tennessee, he would have won. That was his home state, and Nader wasn't even on the ballot there. But just by his existence, he cost Gore the election in Tennessee.
Perhaps you should blame the Workers World Party. In Florida, more people voted for the Trotskyist candidate from WW than the margin between Gore and Bush when the vote was stopped by Rethug hired goons. If only the extreme leftists hadn't fielded a candidate, why, all the people that voted for them, or at least the majority, would no doubt have voted for "Mr. Occidental Petroleum" Al Gore.

Or, if all the ballots had been counted, Gore would have won. That must have been Nader's fault as well. Or hey, if Gore had carried Tennessee, he would have won. That was his home state, and Nader wasn't even on the ballot there. But just by his existence, he cost Gore the election in Tennessee.
 
 
+11 # Salus Populi 2012-08-03 16:20
2 of 2

And of course, Scalia, saying that because Bush and the RethugNaziCons expected to win, they would be "irreparably damaged" if the vote count continued, since it was trending against the fascists. So it was sopped, just in time.

And the [White] Supremacists carried out their act of treason, as Vincent Bugliosi persuasively argued, and -- did you say the Supremes were "liberal" at that time, before Bush took office? Why am I even bothering to educate you?

By 1982, 18 years earlier, there was a solid right-wing bloc that held four seats; ten years later, and there were only two real liberals left on the Court -- neither of whom, incidentally had been appointed by a Democratic president.

Perhaps before vilifying the most solidly pro-people candidate ever fielded by a non-Marxist party, you should read up on the real history of our times.

The fascistization of the political sphere and the deliberate destruction of the Republic as well as any trace of real democracy in the United States was not accomplished by the pipsqueak Schrubbe nor his puppetmaster Cheney.

It was the product of a century-long class war carried out by the rich against everyone else, and it gained its greatest momentum with the election of Ronald Reagan, followed by four "tough-minded" militarist and pro-elite traitors in a row.
 
 
+2 # reiverpacific 2012-08-03 20:34
Quoting Salus Populi:
2 of 2

And of course, Scalia, saying that because Bush and the RethugNaziCons expected to win, they would be "irreparably damaged" if the vote count continued, since it was trending against the fascists. So it was sopped, just in time.

And the [White] Supremacists carried out their act of treason, as Vincent Bugliosi persuasively argued, and -- did you say the Supremes were "liberal" at that time, before Bush took office? Why am I even bothering to educate you?

By 1982, 18 years earlier, there was a solid right-wing bloc that held four seats; ten years later, and there were only two real liberals left on the Court -- neither of whom, incidentally had been appointed by a Democratic president.

Perhaps before vilifying the most solidly pro-people candidate ever fielded by a non-Marxist party, you should read up on the real history of our times.

The fascistization of the political sphere and the deliberate destruction of the Republic as well as any trace of real democracy in the United States was not accomplished by the pipsqueak Schrubbe nor his puppetmaster Cheney.

It was the product of a century-long class war carried out by the rich against everyone else, and it gained its greatest momentum with the election of Ronald Reagan, followed by four "tough-minded" militarist and pro-elite traitors in a row.

¡De acuerdo compañero!
 
 
-1 # BeaDeeBunker 2012-08-04 22:37
Vicky,
You don't have to quote 'exit polls' or any kind of poll to 'prove' your conclusions, for they are your conclusions, and no fact or figure is going to change your mind in any significant way. The fact that your conclusions are based on false facts and false numbers does not enter into your thought process, and why should it, you've drawn a line in the sand.
To quote your own words:
"If for no other reason, I will never forgive Nader for running in swing states even though he had been warned that his presence on the ballot in those states could likely throw the election to Bush."

Why do you include the warning phrase..."could likely" in your statement; 'could' & 'likely' are such conditional terms?

As has been pointed out by many in this discussion, there were many a 'could' & 'likely' that would have been deciding factors in this historic election, not the least of which is this simple fact:

If just 1% more of the eligible voters, who didn't vote, had taken seriously, the right, privilege and responsibility of voting, there would have been about a million more votes cast nation-wide. Combine that with the FACT that Gore got 500,000 more 'popular' votes than Bush, and you have a more 'likely' outcome that 'could' have happened.

I urge you to reconsider that line in the sand and forgive Mr. Nader. Try to never say never...it makes for a better life.
 
 
+12 # abdullahiedward 2012-08-03 15:14
Once again it appears that the elucite Ralph Nadar has continued to piss off a lot of people for the wrong reasons with a simple. honest and common sense article. Thank God many of the comments here are positive, but the negatives indicate that many people still erroneously think his candidacy cost the democrates the 2000 election. For the avoidance of doubt, the 2000 election was stolen, not lost.
 
 
+12 # sameasiteverwas 2012-08-03 17:01
I love this discussion -- people who understand the reality of history -- as Paul Wellstone said, "Politics is what we create by what we do, what we hope for, and what we dare to imagine."

I spent my voting life from 1974-2000, working for the Greens. Working hard, with passion and energy, in a swing state. Election Day 2000 I had called a hundred people telling them unequivocally that "A vote for Nader is a vote for NADER, NOT Bush." And the percentage of the win in my state was so close -- those electoral votes would have made Florida irrelevant, and yes, I blamed myself for some part of that vote. I spent the next eight years working for the Dems in expiation, only giving up when I saw the schism between Obama and Clinton becoming so raucous and hateful that we didn't even see the pre-Tea-Party infiltrators signing up as Dems for the caucus, and they shredded the platform we'd sweated over for months. Now I donate to down-party seats, trying like hell to get ANYONE but a Republican elected in my own county.
But hey, if we want to assign some blame around here, what about Lieberman? Everyone forgets that he conceded the race even before SCOTUS. Even before the recount was stopped, old Joe went on national radio and declared that he & Gore had lost. THAT was what ended the whole thing, and when he later stabbed the party in the back, I was not in the least surprised.
 
 
+5 # sameasiteverwas 2012-08-03 17:05
Oh, hey -- I want to add that I don't blame Nader for 2000 -- as others have pointed out, voter disenfranchisem ent, "hanging chads," the GOP sec'y of state, the Brooks Brothers "riot," Diebold machines, SCOTUS, Jeb Bush, and Lieberman, all contributed to a travesty of the democratic process. But although my heart is with the Greens, I'll never waste a vote (I HAVE to think it matters!)on a third party until we have publicly funded elections and a level playing field for all.
 
 
+4 # barbaratodish 2012-08-03 18:29
What we need is an alternative to the voting we have now! I TRY to suggest online
write in voting but those words write in online voting must "RUB SOMEBODY THE WRONG WAY" because those words seem to BE DISAPPEARED all the time! Like maybe even this comment will be DISAPPEARED?
 
 
0 # John Steinsvold 2012-08-04 14:22
An Alternative to capitalism (If the people knew about it, they would demand it)

Several decades ago, Margaret Thatcher claimed: "There is no alternative". She was referring to capitalism. Today, this negative attitude still persists.

I would like to offer an alternative to capitalism for the American people to consider. Please click on the following link. It will take you to an essay titled: "Home of the Brave?" which was published by the Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

John Steinsvold

Perhaps in time the so-called dark ages will be thought of as including our own.
--Georg C. Lichtenberg
 
 
+3 # lark3650 2012-08-05 07:17
As always, the voice of reason speaking out for the people. Just imagine the good that could be done with the money designated for these conventions and political campaigns...all in the name of power and not in the name of doing what is best for the American people.
 

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