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Grayson writes: "Evolution is not something that you 'believe' or 'disbelieve.' Evolution is like gravity; it's not like Santa Claus or the Abominable Snowman. Be that as it may, neither Jon Huntsman nor any other Republican presidential candidate has been willing to take on the hard myths. The myths that are killing us. Here are a dirty dozen, right off the top of my head."

Progressive political gadfly and former Representative Alan Grayson. (photo: Evan Vucci/AP)
Progressive political gadfly and former Representative Alan Grayson. (photo: Evan Vucci/AP)


12 Republican Myths That Are Killing Us

Alan Grayson, Reader Supported News

03 March 12

 

s the Republican demolition derby rolls on, I continue to be amused by how each remaining contender tries to assume the "small government" mantle.

Mitt Romney wants a government so small that it provides universal health care.

Newt Gingrich wants a government so small that it will establish a permanent base on the moon.

Rick Santorum wants a government so small that it will fit inside a woman's uterus.

The only real remaining advocate of small government is Ron Paul. Dr. Paul appears to be disqualified from the Republican presidential primary, however, because he is unwilling to drench himself with the blood of our imagined enemies, like Gerard Butler in the movie "300."

But what about that Jon Huntsman guy? This week three different people told me, quite independently of each other, how sorry they were that Governor Huntsman never gained any traction in the Republican presidential primary.

I told them that they should get over it. Huntsman wasn't any better.

It somehow counts as an act of courage for Huntsman to have tweeted: "I believe in evolution." Of course, it would have been more courageous if Huntsman had said that to a Tea Party audience, and then they tore him limb from limb, thereby disproving the theory of evolution right before our eyes.

And evolution is not something that you "believe" or "disbelieve." Evolution is like gravity; it's not like Santa Claus or the Abominable Snowman. (Question: Why do they both live at the North Pole?)

Be that as it may, neither Huntsman nor any other Republican presidential candidate has been willing to take on the hard myths. The myths that are killing us. Here are a dirty dozen, right off the top of my head:

  1. The government can't create jobs. (Tell that to FDR, who created four million jobs in three months.)

  2. Tax cuts reduce the deficit. (Doesn't it bother them that a man named "Laffer" came up with this one?)

  3. A fetus is a baby.

  4. The poor have too much money.

  5. Cutting the federal deficit will end the recession.

  6. The rich are incentivized by tax cuts, while the poor are incentivized by lower wages, no benefits, an end to the minimum wage, and unemployment.

  7. An unwanted child is God's will.

  8. Everyone who wants health insurance has it.

  9. The problem with education is the teachers.

  10. The "free market" satisfies every human need.

  11. There is no discrimination in America anymore.

  12. The distribution of wealth and income are irrelevant.

I don't remember Jon Huntsman disputing any of these myths. And these are the ones that do the real damage. Show me a candidate who is willing to take on these myths, and I'll pay more attention.

Courage,

Alan Grayson


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+98 # Willman 2012-03-03 19:30
I would say some of the far right actually do prove evolution exists. They are a prime example of how far they have to go to catch up with the more evolved on this planet.
Or maybe they are destined for extinction due to their lack of adaptation to the modern world about them.
 
 
+87 # kbarrand 2012-03-03 22:51
Instead of "Survival of the Fittest:, they believe in "Survival of the Wealthiest".
 
 
+79 # RMDC 2012-03-03 20:16
Yes, I agree that the republican campaigns look like a demolition derby, but it is having the effect of pushing democrats, esp. Obama, into the lunatic right wing. All democrates (except for maybe Grayson) are terrified about appearing to be a liberal or progressive. Repubicans are defining the terms of the debate. Democrats are too cowardly to call them on their lunacy and just accept the terms and thereby validate the structure of the issue. Because they appear to be running for office, they get tons of free media coverage that spreads their insanity.

All the 12 points Grayson lists are trule false, but the become the standard issue that the mass media debates and that democrats think they have to respond to.

Republicans are excellent at propaganda. They've been studying and practicing it for 100 years. Their paymasters have spent billions of dollars on propaganda. It is now America's only reality.
 
 
+30 # X Dane 2012-03-04 00:31
RMDC. I disagree. Democrats can surely see that the republicans are totally nuts, and thank heaven so can independents. Even the few relatively sensible republicans are tearing their hair out at the spectacle called the republican primary.

Obama hardly need to make any adds to tackle the one left standing and bleeding,
He can just run all the idiotic remarks made in the primary, comments barely needed.
 
 
-86 # globalcitizen 2012-03-03 21:56
Grayson fails to point out that many of the same class myths, class dogmas he attributes to Fascist Republicans, hold also true for Fascist Democrats.

All class ideologies, class parties have degenerated through class myths, since the time PLATO tried to graft social reforms, democracy and Republics into existing class Patriarchy and got crippled class republics degenerating into class Empires , class tyrants.

Another class/Empire myth Grayson does not discuss is the BI PARTISAN FASCIST SUPPORT FOR FASCIST ZIONISM, which Grayson, himself tries to hide. Class deformed languange hides these inverted, totalitarian , corrupted class results, and selectively cherry picks, failures of others when they are a failed political class, whether democrats or republicans.
 
 
+4 # Capn Canard 2012-03-05 19:24
your posts are getting progressively worse. You're not doing your self any favors.
 
 
+88 # Dave45 2012-03-03 22:15
Several years ago historian Richard Hofstadter wrote a book on the American anti-intellectu alism of which Grayson speaks and which stubbornly continues to plague politics and education in the US. Thoughtful teachers are hamstrung by real and de facto censorship, and other thoughtful citizens have trouble getting elected (or even nominated!) because they recognize correctly that most issues are many-faceted and cannot adequately be dealt with in a 30-second TV spot. Thus, in the US electoral process thoughtful people usually come off as "indecisive" or "wishy-washy" or some other term or phrase coined by an opposition the degree of whose ethical and intellectual vacuity only becomes widely apparent after they are elected and the damage has been done. Both major parties have succumbed to the temptation to honor mindless and repetitive propagada over critical and thoughtful attempts to seek truth. It seems doubtful if US education and politics will ever recover from this centuries-long onslaught against thoughtfulness.
 
 
-57 # Innocent Victim 2012-03-04 10:03
Yes, your criticism of the American people is a point well made. But there is another dimension to our politics and to the behavior of Americans: moral vacuity. The two majors are offering the electorate candidates one of whom is committing war crimes and other who are ready, willing and eager to commit war crimes. In the present discussion, the immorality of Obama and of his opponents is not a consideration for most writers. Many Americans are ready to subscribe to the crimes of the President by re-electing him, because they think he is better than the other choices. Was Obama better than John McCain? Would John McCain have violated the Constitution with a Democratic congress from January 2009 to January 2011? I don't think so. Would John McCain have killed more Afghans than has Obama since January 2009? I don't think so. Would John McCain have subscribed to torture by foreign proxies as has Obama, I don't think so. On domestic affairs, would he have given away more money to the financial industry than Obama? Definitely not! Is Obama better educated than John McCain? Who knows? John McCain's academic record is public. Obama's, sealed!
 
 
-48 # Innocent Victim 2012-03-04 10:23
PS In case the point is not understood, voting for the better of two bad choices is not good thinking. Better, as Ralph Nader quotes, to vote for a loser than for a winner who will betray you. You may suspect that I voted for Nader in 2000, 2004 and 2008. I have no regrets in having done so. Do you, supporters of Obama, have no regrets? Could McCain have been worse? I don't think so!
 
 
+50 # GeeRob 2012-03-04 10:53
Are you talking about the same McCain who said the fundamentals of our economy were sound back in the Fall of '08? Is this the same man who chose the Alaskan Grifter, Sarah Palin, for his running mate? This McCain that you speak of, didn't he vote against the repeal of DADT?
 
 
-9 # Innocent Victim 2012-03-06 00:19
Yes, I am! The issues that are determining the decline of the US are mostly in the area of foreign an military policies. These are the areas in which I first compare our leaders and wannabees. In those areas, Obama has not behaved differently from what was expected of McCain. On our economy, I don't think anyone, McCain even, could have done much worse that Obama. Just look at the economic team that Obama chose to start with. Could a worse group of past failures have been assembled by McCain? Cultural issues, DADT (which Obama dealt with with excruciating slowness), abortion, etc., are terribly important, but they don't come close in importance to war and peace, economic justice, or environmental concerns, in my view. Thus, to me, Obama is different from McCain only on the margins.
 
 
+15 # maddave 2012-03-04 17:03
Quote
Is Obama better educated than John McCain? Who knows? John McCain's academic record is public. Obama's, sealed!
Unquote

What the record regarding John McCain's education does not show is that "in those days" we (at the U S Naval Academy) were not educated in the classical sense of the word. We were trained to undertake & complete difficult jobs under arduous conditions" under a cardinal Law of the Navy: "Thou shall not criticize but obey. " This remains a skill and attitude for which demand will forever out-strip the supply, and we from "those days' need not apologize to anyone.

That said, Senator McCain graduated from the United States Naval Academy in June 1958 with a standing of 894 out of a class of 899. His post-graduate education was obtained., courtesy of North Viet Nam, as a POW in Hanoi.

There is no way to campare John McCain with Barrak Obama. Don't even try!
 
 
-7 # Innocent Victim 2012-03-06 00:23
I can't compare the two, because Obama will not unseal his grades. Various commentators have called him "brilliant" from the time he became a presidential hopeful. At least, in McCain's case, we have the record. The case is similar for John Kerry, whose record at Yale is reportedly a poor one, but at least we know! Obama has his performance under lock and key.
 
 
+17 # JJS 2012-03-04 19:56
Quoting Innocent Victim:
...Would John McCain have violated the Constitution with a Democratic congress from January 2009 to January 2011? ...

YES, I think McCain and all presidents (D, R, I,...) will grab all the power they can, any way they can. The Constitution was written to account for the "moral vacuity" of humans. We need a strong congress to check and balance the executive.

I also think I understand the point you are trying to make but this portion of your post belies the point that although it was a simple Democratic congressional majority it was not a substantial (60/40) majority to get laws and bills passed. And remember how long it took for Franken to be declared the winner?

Obama definitely has not always acted or moved in the direction I would have wished. He also felt "shellacked" by the mid-term elections and moved heavily to the right to accomodate the voters. He has done the best he could with the congress he had and the way the poeple voted. I can only say thank you to Pelosi who pulled that healthcare 'rabbit' (not the Universal Health Care as I would have wanted) out of her hat with a great maneuver. She's a great student of her daddy's politics. I hope she becomes House majority leader once again.
 
 
+9 # RMDC 2012-03-05 12:19
Wasn't Hofstadter's book way back in the 1950s? Things are much worse now. Think about how far to the right -- and the stupid right at that -- we are now. Nixon would be a liberal today. Eisenhower, too. Johnson was a radical by today's standards, at least on civil rights and healthcare. I doubt that a GW Bush, Gingrich, Santorum or any of those guys could have been elected in the 50s or 60s.

It's downhill for the USA. The clowns are driving the bus. They are heading for a cliff -- and laughing all the way.
 
 
+4 # JJS 2012-03-05 19:02
Good points RMDC. Nixon a "liberal"?Maybe . His administration encouraged and recruited as many citizens who were eligible to get on the welfare roles. I've read some analysis where this was a tactic to overwhelm the welfare system and thus destroy it. Sorry I can't site the source, it was quite a while ago.

Let's not forget Nixon's price controls, if anyone remembers those. One example I recall is that house prices were regulated so builders used inferior materials to build new homes. Using cheap aluminum as opposed to more expensive copper wiring created firetraps in homes that mixed copper terminal switches with aluminum wire. Walls were thin as paper, 2x2's instead of 2x4's..... Go to any city or home built during the Nixon era. I would call this type of governing more akin to USSR's centralized government than liberal or socialist.

ps. I hope you are wrong about the cliff thing, but I see your point there, too.
 
 
-91 # Innocent Victim 2012-03-03 22:19
A Democratic myth is that encompassed in the oxymoron, "progressive Democrat". A Democrat may call himself a progressive, but he is first a Democrat.
Proof:
1. Alan Grayson, after having signed a pledge that he would vote against what is now called "Obamacare" unless there were a strong public option, voted for it with no public option. The reason Grayson gave for his vote was he thought it was better than no legislation at all and he did not want to see the Obama presidency fail.
2. Dennis Kucinich did and said the same thing in a democracynow interview shared by Ralph Nader, who sharply criticized Obamacare.
3. Russ Feingold recently described Barack Obama "a good guy" and supports him though Feingold disagrees with Obama.
QED
 
 
+33 # beeyl 2012-03-04 01:20
Quoting Innocent Victim:
Russ Feingold recently described Barack Obama "a good guy" and supports him though Feingold disagrees with Obama.
QED

Huh?

Do you even know what QED means? Do you actually think listing 2 examples of non-progressive behavior in Democrats constitutes "proof" that it's impossible for someone to be both a progressive and a Democrat? (Btw, your 3rd example is just nonsense: it's not at all contradictory to disagree with someone you believe to be a good guy.)

Let me give you a few examples of the awesome power of your logic:

1) It's impossible to be a "black President," because George Washington, Abe Lincoln, and Franklin Roosevelt were all white. QED.

2) It's impossible to be a "bipedal mammal," since horses, cows, and llamas are all quadrupeds. QED.

3) It's impossible to be an "honest conservative," because, obviously. QED.

Please leave conversations like this to adults.
 
 
+8 # Innocent Victim 2012-03-04 09:26
QED = Quantum Electrodynamics .
 
 
+5 # Regina 2012-03-04 23:36
After reading your posts, I am reasonably certain that you know zilch about quantum electrodynamics . But I know better than to sign off my estimate of your knowledge with a Euclidean QED.
 
 
-24 # globalcitizen 2012-03-04 10:17
So our Fascist Congress and "Weimar" President degenerated into majority votes for a Police State, that Obama signed.

Then the outcry against this Fascism resulted in Congress CONSIDERING restoring the HABEUS CORPUS, but in the meantime they voted to CRIMINALIZE DISSENT with not one Democrat opposing this Fascist legislation.

On WARISACRIME, one comment was:

How did we get here?
Submitted by Darwin26 on Sun, 03/04/2012 - 9:51am.

"How is it we didn't see this coming ? aren't there watch dog groups that would have sounded some alarm or was this just sailed under

the radar . This is indeed mind boggling that all these Dems would be so stoopid to vote for this ? well i'm not a Dem but these baffoons /hacks and charlantans should be tried as traitors !Will"

But the history of class degeneration and "Weimarization" , fascist appeasement then totalitarians themselves, Liberals degenerated into Fascists, totalitarians.

This devolving class,empire process is explained there with this link:

A SOCIAL MANIFESTO AND HISTORICAL THEORY

http://asocialmanifestoagainstclasshistory.com
 
 
+5 # JJS 2012-03-05 19:16
I think the Patriot act and the NDAA are anethema to the Constitution of the US as is the retroactive pardon of the telecoms for eavesdropping on every single phone call ever made since they implemented the technology post 9/11/2001.
HOWEVER, these bills were attached to military spending bills and to vote against military funding will get you drummed out of office quickly. The reality is, if you aren't elected to office you can't govern. It is wrong and I hate it, but it is the way it is. It is better than violence in the streets. Want to be like Syria?

I hope these "watch dog" groups you talk of find a way to bring platiffs, with standing, through the courts, to the Supreme court and get these absurd laws struck down.
 
 
0 # JJS 2012-03-06 05:40
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/anwar-al-awlaki-foia-request

"Watch Dog Group" gets started.
 
 
0 # JJS 2012-03-05 19:36
QED
From a National Lampoon skit(reduced):
"My major premise is that poop's brown."
"My minor premise is that you's brown."
"My conlusion is that you's POOP, QED."
Go to 6:58 minutes into the recording.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2Lll_tndUc&feature=related
The whole album is a hoot, back from the Nixon era.
 
 
+67 # wwway 2012-03-03 23:44
Innocent Victim: To those who complain about how weak the Affordable Health Care Act is better look in the mirror. It took an attack on collective barganing in Wisconsin to finally get sleep walking Americans to notice the agenda of the right wing and hit the streets. 70% of americans wanted the health care option. After Republicans spread the myths of reform support dropped to 40%. What did you expect Obama to do? Wave a magic wand?
Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and Kaiser Family Foundations have been studying health American health care policy for more than 60 Years and have said that we will revisit this again and again until we achieve an inkling of the success of the Bizmark system tht Germany has. That system is privately funded and privately delivered and has worked since 1888.
It's a myth that Americans CAN'T achieve something similar. Like my mother said, "Can't never did anything."
Yes, we can get rid of Blue Dogs and Republicans and Teas. But it will take more than whining and more than just one man. The people have to work the magic.
 
 
+10 # X Dane 2012-03-04 00:34
They sure do....and FAST!!!!!
 
 
-17 # globalcitizen 2012-03-04 09:14
wwway:

Logic and moral principles are not about
"complaining" or "whining", they are about exposing the rot and corrupt elements that make up a class compromising ideology such as Liberalism which has degenerated like all class ideologies into embracing FASCISM, TOTALITARIANISM.

When democrats, liberals vote for FASCIST LAWS and a POLICE STATE they become FASCISTS. Some of the most illogical arguments are by Liberals who used to say that a principled social vote against Democrats was "Wasting your vote". In fact every time ANYONE who votes for class parties, they are voting for class hierarchies, the Patriarchal class mechanism, which deforms the politicial class, through inversion, substitution, and false conflation, thereby THROWING the social intention of the vote into a class/empire agenda...AS A BETRAYAL/CLASS MECHANISM.

That is the whole history of social ideologies within class deformed civil societies, where CLUELESS voters fail to see that they are enslaving themselves, every time they THROW THEIR SOCIAL VOTES INTO THE PATRIARCHAL/CLA SS/BETRAYING MACHINE. This corruption, degeneration expalins how LIBERALS BECOME FASCISTS:

US Congress passes authoritarian anti-protest law

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2012/mar2012/prot-m03.shtml

"Not a single Democratic politician voted against the bill..."
 
 
+1 # Capn Canard 2012-03-05 19:08
My problems with your post is that traditionally the conservative class has not been on the side of the working class at all. Look to the Labor Party in England under Tony Blair. They fully embraced Neo-Liberalism (I maintain they we embraced the same under the name NEO CONSERVATIVE, thanks W!) and it has devastated their nation and it all came of the heels of Thatcher (she was trying but the Empire was but a shadow). Was this good for the people? I would suggest NO in either case. The problem is less and less that of the parties and distinction and more so pure class distinctions relative to wealth and wealth alone (not to say all wealthy are evil!). Our country is a serious basket case with regard to Class structure. The Dems seems to create boondoggles and the Conservatives have dreams of creating a military strong arm while defunding social programs and claiming they will limit taxation. Ain't gonna happen. Despite all that, I must say I see a great deal to like in your post. But the problem is that you can't expect the Dems of Repugs to do anything to truly fix the problems.
 
 
+1 # JJS 2012-03-07 19:50
You have your right wing confused with your left wing. The Left are more towards communal governing and the Right is more governing by a central authority. Hitler was considered Right wing, militaristic or Fascist. Stalin was considered Leftist or Communistic. How can we have a coherent conversation if you do not even know the meaning of the terms you use. I personally would advocate a more Socialistic form of govenment,
 
 
+5 # Innocent Victim 2012-03-04 09:29
Not "Bizmark"! Bismarck
 
 
-15 # Innocent Victim 2012-03-04 09:42
When we allow politicians, even those we may favor as the best of a bad bunch, to break their pledges, we encourage such dishonesty. If signing a pledge, along with about 65 others, means nothing, then what means anything?

I'm sorry! What Grayson, Kucinich and others did in not keeping their word was absolutely inexcusable. The excuse they offered - to save the presidency of a war criminal - is a bad joke!

As for Feingold, do you recall that he voted to confirm John Roberts?

Some progressives!
 
 
+3 # Capn Canard 2012-03-05 19:17
Innocent Victim, the whole pledge you refer to must be the Grover Norquist pledge. Two things to be aware of: Norquist is not elected and never has been. Those like him have used intimidation to bully their way into positions of power, average people have never given him any power. And consider that Norquist represents far right wing ideology and that has a really horrible international record. Like nearly all failed dictatorships would have been welcomed into the Norquist fold. The wealthy love such gov't until they need to be saved by huge tax financed relief by states with social democracies pulls them out of the ditch.
 
 
-22 # Dnsbayer 2012-03-03 23:47
Scratches her head and continues eating her banana......
 
 
+15 # Rick Levy 2012-03-04 00:59
I am glad that Grayson addressed Myth #3. I haven't read of anyone else, even other progressives, who have had the nerve to come out and state this.
 
 
+16 # R Miller 2012-03-04 02:18
Grayson is a very smart and funny guy. His handlers have doused the hair-fire and made him appear more reasonable on cable shows (never be smarter or funnier than either your audience or the host!) More to the point, he's smart enough to hit the right targets. He'll be back and the Republicans will hate but respect him once again.
 
 
+4 # spercepolnes 2012-03-04 03:23
"All democrates (except for maybe Grayson) are terrified about appearing to be a liberal or progressive." - or, in other words, they are spineless cretins who are no better than those they supposedly stand against! They deserve to go as well! Pathetic! Ultra right wing cretins, or mere spineless right wing cretins!
Some choice!
 
 
+1 # hd70642 2012-03-04 05:10
They advocate war with Iran but insist a draft or an industrial base is not needed to bring about this hair brained scheme. If they were really sincere they then why don't insist on a military draft ?
 
 
+11 # Bruce Gruber 2012-03-04 07:00
Two basic axioms:

1. There are no simple answers to complicated problems.

2. All change is pain.

There is little or no evidence that either is a consideration in our current universe except, perhaps, for the 'general assembly democracy of OCCUPY.
 
 
+17 # JJS 2012-03-04 08:08
Maybe some "Liberal" preacher can correlate the lead up to Super Tuesday with the recent tornados and extreme weather in the south? Basically it is God's way of warning about voting Republican. More bad weather to come!
 
 
+18 # alanherman 2012-03-04 08:15
Alan Grayson, channels Gail Collins...we need him, and his sane voice again in Congress, and I hope everyone-- even if like me, you do NOT live in Florida-- is working for his re-election, and contributing to his campaign..
 
 
-16 # globalcitizen 2012-03-04 08:19
One can clearly see that Liberals, many of them think that social critiques against their class/empire compromising betrayals, means I must be a Republican or conservative.

However there exists outside the two corporate parties real social ideologies, outlooks that are independent of these corrupt class parties. A social critique against class Liberals exists within the OCCUPY MOVEMENT, that does not want to be sucked into the false choices, clueless votes by so many liberals here.

Liberalism started out as a social, revolutionary ideology in the Enlightenment, but once the class hierarchies and class laws were extended into the industrial revolution, Liberalism became associated with moral cowardice, class and empire appeasement, fascist appeasement, and finally into totalitarians.

Napoleon created the class liberal doctrine linked to the Patriarchal class mechanism which reproduced all the failures of class history, and the failures of Liberals, HERE, to understand that all class ideologies are BETRAYAL MECHANISMS, that are NOT BASED on principled social forces, instead appeasing class forces.
 
 
0 # Capn Canard 2012-03-05 18:11
globalcitizen and that is why we need a real party Anarchists without leadership. Sign me up...
 
 
+18 # Sensible1 2012-03-04 08:51
While the Grayson's twelve GOP myths are valid stated talking points of the Republican Party, and there is no real evidence to support or defend these outrageous assertions, somehow they just will not go away. Applying a killing measure of facts and common sense does not seem stop it or even slow it down. When the Democrats figure out a way to mitigate the Republicans twelve lies, the American people will begin to move forward and throw off the cloak of fascist suppression.
 
 
+21 # RNBrock 2012-03-04 09:05
Here's another myth that is a twofer--it's killing us, but it is also killing others at a faster rate:
Our wars are for freedom and democracy.
 
 
-10 # Innocent Victim 2012-03-04 10:39
On the Thumbs - Up/Down.

This is to point out that a forum is moderated for two general reasons: 1) legal - The forum's manager does not wish to publish defamatory comments; 2) content - The manager wishes the expressions to be appropriate to the subject.

Thumbs-up/down are not arguments for or against a point of view. They are simply a cheer or a boo. As such, they do not contribute anything to the discussion. They just add a bit of smugness to the majority opinion. Thus, they are a discouragement to thought, to consideration of others' views. If RSN continues to play to the gallery by this technique, I shall take my computer elsewhere.
 
 
+3 # reiverpacific 2012-03-05 15:35
Quoting Innocent Victim:
On the Thumbs - Up/Down.

This is to point out that a forum is moderated for two general reasons: 1) legal - The forum's manager does not wish to publish defamatory comments; 2) content - The manager wishes the expressions to be appropriate to the subject.

Thumbs-up/down are not arguments for or against a point of view. They are simply a cheer or a boo. As such, they do not contribute anything to the discussion. They just add a bit of smugness to the majority opinion. Thus, they are a discouragement to thought, to consideration of others' views. If RSN continues to play to the gallery by this technique, I shall take my computer elsewhere.

Be my guest: are you SEEKIN' A ROUND OF APPLAUSE or trying to make a point?
I ask you, like a couple of the other reactionaries who post here betimes; WHER CAN A LEFTY GO to post or have an opinion published or HEARD?
I've had one or two thumbs - down for sayin' what I think but might not be the majority's opinion and that's fine.
Quit WHININ' or take yr computer elsewhere. 'Scuse me for the capitalization a.k.a., YELLING.
 
 
+1 # Capn Canard 2012-03-05 18:08
Innocent Victim, feel free to do as you please. I use the whole thumbs up/down stuff as short hand. I like to read those with most thumbs down, to see if there is merit to down thumb. You don't get a thumbs down from me today. You comment is just too personal.
 
 
+7 # danigo 2012-03-04 10:48
Democrats, including Grayson, would be well advised to stay away from the subject of fetuses, birth-control etc. which are so personal and to concentrate on the economic issues such as tax cuts, accountablility for the mortgage crisis and corruption in military spending. It is a shame that Grayson does not pronounce himself on the subject of Israel, as other liberals have, but this is obviously a difficult subject for him. But it would be good to know if he feels Zionism is still a defensible proposition today, in view of what it has led to. This is an important issue, in view of fateful consequences for all, especially the defenseless and the poor, which Grayson so eloquently defends, to his great credit.
 
 
+11 # reiverpacific 2012-03-04 12:07
The current crop of Repug's (and some Dem's too) are in my 'umble opinion, living an almost Wagnerian myth (in it's surrealistic grandiosity) with no basis in real life, unlike their fiscal-responsi bility based predecessors.
Seems like inside-the-does that to many power-seekers.
Alan Grayson is at least courageous enough to call them out on their shit and I hope he is re-elected.
 
 
0 # reiverpacific 2012-03-04 13:22
Quoting reiverpacific:
The current crop of Repug's (and some Dem's too) are in my 'umble opinion, living an almost Wagnerian myth (in it's surrealistic grandiosity) with no basis in real life, unlike their fiscal-responsibility based predecessors.
Seems like inside-the-does that to many power-seekers.
Alan Grayson is at least courageous enough to call them out on their shit and I hope he is re-elected.

I meant "inside-the-bel tway" o' course. 'Scuse crappy typing.
 
 
+6 # Peace Anonymous 2012-03-04 12:56
After reading many of the responses I will state the one major factor that seperates Grayson from the herd is his willingness to state his opinion - clearly. That is a pretty wreckless tack for a politician in this day and age to take. LOL! Is that the "evolved" perspective?
 
 
+1 # lark3650 2012-03-06 06:14
Alan Grayson is the voice of reason. He makes it very clear how absolutely ridiculous the stuff that comes out of the mouths of these men really is. It requires mental effort to reason...and this is something the Republican candidates know nothing about.
 

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