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Nader writes: "Were Obama to look out his White House window and see the arrested and handcuffed demonstrators against this $7 billion Keystone XL pipeline, he might think: 'This will upset my environmental supporters, but heck, where can they go in November 2012?'"

Ralph Nader being interviewed during his 2008 presidential campaign, 08/01/08. (photo: Scrape TV)
Ralph Nader being interviewed during his 2008 presidential campaign, 08/01/08. (photo: Scrape TV)



Tar Sands Arrests on Obama's Doorstep

By Ralph Nader, Reader Supported News

30 August 11

 

his is the second week of protests, led by Bill McKibben, in front of the White House demanding that President Barack Obama reject a proposed 1700 mile pipeline transporting the dirtiest oil from Alberta, Canada through fragile ecologies down to the Gulf Coast refineries. One thousand people will be arrested there from all fifty states before their demonstration is over. The vast majority voted for Obama and they are plenty angry with his brittleness on environmental issues in general.

Following the large BP discharge in the Gulf of Mexico, Obama gave the OK to expand drilling over 20 million acres in the Gulf and soon probably in the Arctic Ocean. He delayed clean air rules over at EPA. Following the worsening Fukishima nuclear disaster last March in Japan, he reaffirmed his support for more taxpayer guaranteed nuclear plants in the US adding his Administration's hopes to learn from the mistakes there.

He proposed an average fuel efficiency standard for 2005 at 62 miles per gallon, quickly conceded to industry's objection and brought it down to 54 mpg. The industry's trade journal Automotive News calculated the loopholes and brought it down to "real-world industry wide fleet average in the 2025 model year" of about 40 mpg. No wonder the auto companies effusively praised Obama's give-it-up negotiator, Ron Bloom at the Treasury Department of all places.

Were Obama to look out his White House window and see the arrested and handcuffed demonstrators against this $7 billion Keystone XL pipeline, he might think: "This will upset my environmental supporters, but heck, where can they go in November 2012?"

He is right. No matter what Mr. Obama does to surrender environmental health and safety to corporatist demands, they will vote for him. They certainly won't vote for the Republican corporate mascots. They wouldn't vote for a Green Party candidate either. This is not only the environmentalists' dilemma, it is the liberal/progressive/labor union dilemma as well. They have no bargaining power with Obama.

He did not propose a carbon tax when the Democrats controlled Congress in 2009-2010. Even Exxon prefers a carbon tax to the corruption-inducing complex cap and trade bill the House passed only to have the Senate sit on it. So doing nothing on climate change is soon to be followed by approval of the destructive tar sands pipeline which will add significantly to greenhouse gases.

Pipelines have been busting out recently in California, near Yellowstone and in Pennsylvania. People died and water was polluted. Pipeland standards are old, weak and hardly enforced by the tiny pipeline safety office at the Department of Transportation. Obama hasn't been pushing for needed money and stronger standards with tougher enforcement.

Over-riding, in Obama's mind, is being accused of blocking job formation. But had he pushed for a major public-works program in 2009, as many economists still beg him to do, he wouldn't be in the position of being called a job-destroyer. He also is sensitive to rebuttable charges that he would be preferring future oil from unfriendly countries abroad to Canadian oil.

You can see the corner he is in because he didn't come out strongly for major solar, wind power, energy conservation and immediate retrofit programs in 2009. Instead he swallowed the oil industry line that his proposed energy policy should be a mix of fossil fuels, nuclear power, solar and conservation in that order. No, Mr. Obama, some energy sources are too superior in too many ways to be a part of this manipulative greenwashing propaganda displayed in oil company newspaper ads.

Even nature contradicts Mr. Obama. Obama's Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) recently gave a pass to the Indian Point Unit 2 Reactor, a menacingly-troubled reactor 30 miles north of Manhattan, after its inspectors discovered a refueling-cavity liner had been leaking for years at rates up to 10 gallons per minute. Just last week the strongest earthquake in 140 years struck the east coast. Even though the liner's "sole safety function is the prevention of leakage after a seismic event," according to David Lochbaum of the Union of Concerned Scientists, the NRC did not require the plant's owner to repair the design defect.

This is only one of many defects, inspection lapses, close calls, corrosions, and ageing problems with many US nuclear plants that Secretary of Energy Stephen Chu and President Obama have not seriously addressed. This is the case even though the news from Fukishima becomes worse every week. More food is found contaminated. Radiation readings at the site reached their highest level in August. Now the Japanese government is about to declare a wide area around the nine destroyed or disabled nuclear plants uninhabitable for decades to come due to radiation.

Nearly fifty years ago, the industry regulator and vigorous promoter, the Atomic Energy Commissions estimated that a class nine nuclear meltdown in the US would contaminate "an area the size of Pennsylvania." That was before we had dozens of even larger ageing nuclear plants whose owners are brazenly pressing for license extensions beyond the normal life expectancy of many over-the-hill nuke plants. Please face up to it Mr. President.

At moments of reflection, those 1000 citizens standing tall before the White House must look up at the sun and all the forms of available renewable energy it gave this planet zillions of years ago and wonder how nuts our life-sustaining star must think Earthlings have been all these years.


Ralph Nader is a consumer advocate, lawyer and author. His most recent book - and first novel - is "Only the Super-Rich Can Save Us." His most recent work of non-fiction is "The Seventeen Traditions."

 

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+57 # Steven C. Anderson 2011-08-30 12:16
Where can we go? WE CAN DAMN WELL NOT VOTE in this non-participatory system. Ihave never in my long adult life ever voted FOR a candidate, always Against a party. I won't do it anymore. The only way we can vote is to take t to the streets. A vote for the lesser evil is still a vote for evil!
 
 
+31 # Vardette 2011-08-30 15:04
We saw what happened last election when we didn't vote because we were so angry at the Democrats and Obama, we got the Tea Party. Imagine a Rick Perry added to the equation. I intend to vote Progressive for the house and senate and would like to see people take a proactive position rather than a non-participatory stance.
 
 
+26 # Vardette 2011-08-30 15:40
If we take to the streets we better do it in a protracted way like in Wisconsin and in very large numbers and at the same time build up support for a grass roots movement to replace all those in the congress and senate who are willing to take bribes from corporations that place our lives at risk!
 
 
+22 # John Talbutt 2011-08-30 16:02
Not voting is a gift to some of the meanest, craziest sons and daughters of bitches that ever walked the planet. Those who are so hostile to Obama they would do that are as much the problem as the Tea Party. Being an adult means taking responsibility for the results of your actions are lack thereof.
 
 
+12 # KittatinyHawk 2011-08-30 17:04
I believe that we need a Candidate and I do not agree that the ones protesting would not vote Green Party if one was actually serious. Why not an Independent?
Change to Congress, Senate could be a win/win. I understand that one vote could change the out come but so can Diebold with or without us...remember they are able to do more than we are willing to imagine. We do nothing but allow it
 
 
+4 # KittatinyHawk 2011-08-30 17:01
Excellently put..I too am tired of the time old excuse. Either better candidate or we are going to have explain our feelings after Nov election
 
 
+25 # alan17b0 2011-08-30 12:37
I hate to disagree with Mr Nader, whom I
have voted for twice, and who bought five
of our buttons (See www.waifllc.org )

But only those of us who live in
"battleground states" have to vote for
Obama. Most of us -- those living in Mass,
NY, MD, NJ, CA, Ore -- have a Free Vote.
Use it!

Best wishes,

Alan McConnell, in Silver Spring MD
 
 
+7 # KittatinyHawk 2011-08-30 17:05
Your Vote is never Free...you earn that Right. Others exploit it but real Americans earn the right to vote
 
 
+30 # Sally Blakemore 2011-08-30 12:59
Grass roots write-in vote for Ralph Nader (his time has definitely come to be heard!) Ralph Nader knows the inner workings of our government and he has compassion, ethics and a soul. WE need a man like Nader in a leadership role.
 
 
+22 # Dick Huopana 2011-08-30 15:09
If not president, Ralph Nader should be head of the EPA.
 
 
+15 # Isar 2011-08-30 13:03
Yes, Mr. Nader, we agree with you...and we know you are right. And yes, we will vote for Obama again because we will have no choice. AND..Obama will continue to make decisions as president that confuse us. Perhaps it is because Cheney hasn't left. He lives in the basement of the White House, and threatens the Obama family with his shot gun.
 
 
+27 # Roy 2011-08-30 13:04
It seems to me we may be able to break this horrific chain. We should begin a movement for "Anybody But" that explicitly states that the left community will, in 2012, punish Obama by defeating him in order to show that pseudo-progressives like Obama will not get away twice with so blatantly lying to us. Yes, Perry may win, but he probably will anyway in light of Obama's inefficacy. Had McCain won how much worse off could we be? Would we be any more in support of terrorist movements led by the US and Israel? Would poor people be any poorer? Would Wal-Mart women workers be less able to sue? Would we be less protected from the banksters?

No! And we would have a shot at a movement in the streets that we will in any case have to build if there is going to be even the slightest chance stopping, let alone reversing, the corporate american goal of total world dominance, immense wealth for the few and poverty, ignorance, sickness and general degradation for the vast majority. I am not a naif. I was in Mississippi in '65, the student movement for several years and a capital defense lawyer for decades. We will never change this society/economy by allowing ourselves to be co-opted. At least we can try to make the bastards pay. Perhaps the next Obama wannabe will take heed.

Anybody But in 2012
 
 
+17 # AML 2011-08-30 13:28
You've got to ask yourself if it would be better morally to run a 'write-in' candidate rather than vote for a Republican in 2012. If we could all fix on one alternative candidate, no matter what we call them, it would at least send the right message: Obama, step down, sir.
 
 
+4 # cherylpetro 2011-08-30 14:17
Yeah, have Obama leave and have a crazy, pseudo religious, middle class, poor, and gay hating, nut job come in! Perfect! What a steel trap of a mind you have! If the country isn't in the crapper already, you would have it just implode! "Wonderful" thinking!
 
 
+5 # burner 2011-08-30 13:34
where do you think he gets his campaign funding from?
 
 
+11 # wrodwell 2011-08-30 13:39
Kudos to Mr. Nader for his trenchant comments about our feckless President. However, an editor would do Mr. Nader a big favor especially when such sentences like this exist: "He proposed an average fuel efficiency standard for 2005 at......." Uh, I believe Mr. Obama only took office in January, 2009. Also: "Pipelines have been busting out in ............" Busting out all over? Sounds like a Broadway musical. Perhaps "Pipelines have been bursting......." would've been clearer. Any editors there at RSN willing to take a second look at Mr. Nader's and other writer's articles before publishing? Other than that, RSN is doing a great job.
 
 
+26 # bookemdano 2011-08-30 13:47
Go get him Ralph! This guy has been given an easy ride by many of those that voted for him. Many invested too much emotionally in Obama and the denial is a hard thing to work through. He's not the man we all thought he was, that's tough to swallow but we have to move on and hold his feet to the fire.
 
 
+12 # Gurka 2011-08-30 13:47
Once again crucial information and clear conclusions from Mr. Nader. Thank you!
The problem with your president seems to be the fact that he was too busy with his education to gain an insightful understanding as many environmental problems started to expand rapidly. He did not have the time or interest learn about this complex or to join concerned groups that tried to do something. And now in power he has turned out to be too ignorant to chose the right advisors. This is a real tragedy.
 
 
-20 # cherylpetro 2011-08-30 14:13
To me, a guy whom the Republicans PAID OFF to run as a SPOILER against GORE, has NO PLACE to SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYONE ELSE! WE WOULD NOT BE IN THE MESS WE ARE IN TODAY, HAD GORE BEEN THE PRESIDENT! IF NADER HADN'T MADE THE VOTES THAT MUCH LOWER, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN TOO MUCH OF A MANDATE FOR GORE, BY THE US VOTERS, AND THE SUPREME COURT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO INSTALL BUSH! NADER CAN GO JUMP AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED! HE IS A SELL OUT! HIS OPINION IS NULL AND VOID!
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2011-08-30 17:11
I must agree it was not the right time. I have met nader and believe he should have been part of FDE, EPA as he is not a sell out. But it was not the right time too many who wanted both ideologies hurt the one who was a better shot.
What a difference with a good Cabinet and Advisors. He already knew the headaches.
 
 
+11 # propsguy 2011-08-30 20:10
again, it was not ralph nadar's candidacy that cost Gore the election. the Supreme's, at the behest of their corporate masters, handed the election to the puppet of their choosing. i suppose they figured it was better to keep Gore out than plan his assassination later. please stop blaming nadar. they were not going to let Gore win- period, end of story
 
 
-29 # christopher rand 2011-08-30 14:21
oh, so now Nader's an environmentalis t.
 
 
+10 # KittatinyHawk 2011-08-30 17:11
You are pretty out of step if you didnot know this.
 
 
-18 # cherylpetro 2011-08-30 14:24
Ralph Nader on Principles & Values - OnTheIssues.org ...
Republicans help get Nader on state ballots In ... crowning bumble in Gore's poorly-run campaign. Source: Nader: Crusader, Spoiler ... could both vote for Nader AND against ...
www.ontheissues.org/2004/Ralph_Nader_Principles_+_Values.htm - Cached
 
 
-19 # ericlipps 2011-08-30 14:26
And of course Ralphj Nader is uniquely qualified to tell us how to fix things--Ralph Nader, whose 2000 presidential run gave us George W. Bush; Ralph Nader, who in that election ACTUALLY SAID that even if he didn't win he'd be satisfied if Gore lost, because it would "teach the Democrats a lesson about ignoring the progressive base."
 
 
+22 # Vardette 2011-08-30 14:37
Obama is a blackmailing son of a bitch and he does have us between a rock and a hard place and god knows I don't want a Rick Perry as president. But one thing we can do is overthrow the house and Senate. Progressives, and I don't mean Ron Paul, are working hard all over the nation to prepare candidates to run for the hosue and senate but if there ever was a time to run a 3rd person for President now would be the time because Obama has shown us that he can step on us because the other choice would be even worse. I shook his hand and voted for him like so many of us and he has betrayed us. But I don't want to shoot myself in the foot to spite my face - We must change the house and senate for our survival!
 
 
+5 # in deo veritas 2011-08-30 16:24
There are grounds for impeachment. If Obama could be forced to resign there are better candidates for the Dems in 2012. Anyone would be better than any of the fascist lunatics the repukes can run. We need a real leader not a dictator. Obama has proven to be neither.
 
 
+8 # noitall 2011-08-30 20:56
It's 'Good Cop Bad Cop', same outcome no matter who (if you haven't noticed it, Obama, as did Clinton, continued the blows against the middle and lower classes (yes we do have a class system) and the next one, whomever it is, will continue the closing of the noose. This Republic has been taken over. The american lemmings just haven't realized that the cooling, refreshing breeze blowing by their face will soon end on the craggy rocks rapidly approaching.
 
 
+15 # amye 2011-08-30 14:37
I know the republicans are worse, but I just can't seem to bring myself to vote for a president who is just about as bad as they are! He lied, they lie. Help! Where is a candidate that is honest and truthful? Heck, where are any candidates that are honestly for the people? I know we all think our representatives are the best, but even they are not as brave and courageous as we'd like and wish them to be!
 
 
+12 # Kootenay Coyote 2011-08-30 14:40
I appreciate the despair of those who choose not to vote - but if you don't vote, you can't complain about what you get.
 
 
+23 # Denise Cousineau 2011-08-30 14:59
Where are the UNION of CONCERNED SCIENTISTS???? Where and why are they hiding???
Linus Pauling put his brilliant career on the line protesting in front of the White House against nuclear testing and proliferation.He then went on to win the Nobel Peace prize.
Concerned Scientists please stand up to Obama now!!! Yes, This is a real tragedy.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2011-08-30 17:16
I went to their meetings last year but I see no one stepping up there. I do not know if the Populace would vote for them.. It is the reason why Gore and Nader does not grab them. We may appreciate but too many do not want all that Yale words, they want people who can talk to them.
 
 
+3 # Gurka 2011-08-31 08:18
Quoting
I went to their meetings last year but I see no one stepping up there. I do not know if the Populace would vote for them.. It is the reason why Gore and Nader does not grab them. We may appreciate but too many do not want all that Yale words, they want people who can talk to them.

Yeah, like the Republicans with their fake folksiness! They can talk people into voting against their own best interests.
 
 
-20 # stanley balter 2011-08-30 15:01
Dear RSN

I am extremely disappointed to learn, by accidentally surfing, that Ralph Nader is apparently a corresoondent of yours. I have had nothing to do in the past with RSN but I have had considerable contact and correspndencewi th Public Citizen, the organization of which Mr. Nader was a founder. And my response to their repeated impassioned pleas for funds has been the same since the year 2000. Definitely not, I will not support them, not until they publicly disavow Nader's disastrous actions of 11 years sgo. Because of Mr. Nader, George Bush was elected. I hope you will spare me the specious argument that Mr. Gore should have won anyway. That may well be true, but it in no way abwsolvs Mr. Nader or Public Citizen or RSN for your grievous wrong headed actions and support.

Mr. Nader, in his 30 August piece, advises Mr. Obama to look out his window and see the arrested demonstrators. Of course Obama is wrong. But I advise Mr. Nader to look at the state of the economy, to look at the disasters in Iraq and Afganistan and the disasters assailing our American democracy. These and many other obsceneties are the result of Nader's conceited and self centered actions 11 years ago.

Ralph Nader is a name which will live in infamy. Shame on him and shame of RSN for having him on your staff.
 
 
+13 # seeuingoa 2011-08-30 15:26
Grow up Stanley Balter.

Ralph Nader was just doing what was his right to do, like Busch and Gore.

Only the Americans voters are to blame for the result in 2000, being stupid enough to vote for Busch, and stupid enough to vote for the same mistake the second time!
 
 
+5 # Gurka 2011-08-31 08:21
Or, maybe they got some help from the Diebold voting machines...
 
 
+20 # in deo veritas 2011-08-30 16:27
Nader is NOT to blame for Bush. The idiot voters in my state of WV handed him 5 electoral votes, without which the Florida fiasco would have been irrelevant. Also the Supremely Corrupt Court is to blame. Thanks to THEM Bush would have slithered in regardless of Nader's candidacy.
 
 
+6 # noitall 2011-08-30 20:58
Get real, shame on the American voter and shame on the system that has strangled the Republic. This Republic, it was ours if we could have kept it.
 
 
+4 # ziggy 2011-08-31 08:27
Nader is not directly to blame. There are so many factors going into every election, including the individual state politics and circumstances.

I voted for Nader in 2000, but I waited till the last minute. I waited to see what the numbers were right before the polls closed. Had Gore been in trouble, I would have cast my ballot for him. But he was safe in CA at 7:45pm.

Whether you think Nader can go "all the way" or not, we need people like him in the campaign to keep the important issues front and center - to give a voice to all of us out there who don't have the big bucks behind our voice like the Republicans do. You can see focus shifts like this happen in the primaries.

I agree with someone else's comment that we need to take back congress. We have to start at the grass roots level. Hell, the Tea party did it. The problem is that we're the poor slobs working two jobs to survive, or desperately looking for a job, or trying to keep a roof over our heads. It's difficult to hop on a plane to DC to protest, be arrested and never be noticed on the national news.

We need campaign finance reform; but for that we need responsible senators and representatives who are, at this point, independently wealthy to run against the corporately backed opposition to make that happen. It's a vicious cycle. Any ideas?
 
 
-5 # Patch 2011-08-31 08:28
I totally agree with you. Ralph Nader allowed his vanity to overcome his common sense in 2000. When it became obvious that it was going to be close he should have urged his supporters to vote for Gore. With enough electoral votes the rest of the fiasco wouldn't have happened.

And, if Gore had been President we wouldn't be in Afganistan or Iraq, we wouldn't have a trillion dollar deficit, we wouldn't have an assault on the environment, and 9/11 might not have happened because he and his staff would have paid attention to the warnings.

So, yes, I too blame Ralph Nader for what has happened in the past 11 years.
 
 
+14 # seeuingoa 2011-08-30 15:14
Dear Ralph Nader,
You have a name and known to be uncorrupted, please use that asset to
convince Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren to run as independents.
Please!
 
 
+12 # Lulie 2011-08-30 15:23
The comments on these pages constantly complain that we have no third choice; that even if we feel betrayed by Obama, there's no other option.
Ralph Nader offered us a third choice in 2000, and he continues to encourage progressives to stop propping-up corporate front-men like Obama.
But instead of following his lead, we continue to whine, wring our hands and complain. We "hold our noses" and vote the party line.
People keep saying they want someone like Bernie Sanders to run, but if he did, he'd probably just get blamed as a spoiler, just like Nader did.
 
 
+10 # JayS 2011-08-30 15:46
Yes Nader is an environmentalis t. Remember the Clean Air Act and the Clean Water Act? Obama has done the bidding of his paymasters and is paving the way for Perry. Bill McKibben for president!
 
 
+1 # mjc 2011-08-30 15:51
Ralph Nader acts as if he also has progressives and liberals between a rock and a hard place. Voting for him will accomplish nothing. Not voting for the top of the ticket is a disgrace but it was one I accepted in 2008 since neither name at the top was worth pulling a lever for. I did vote, and suggest we all vote for the House and Senate nominees but unless there is some other solutiion than Obama or the other Republicans, mostly misfits, there is nothing else that can be done.
 
 
+6 # DLT888 2011-08-30 16:17
The voting for the lesser of two evils has gotten into this mess. When we vote for one of these candidates these days on the so-called 'democratic' ticket, we ARE voting for a Repukican because that is exactly what they ARE. After John Kerry, I will NEVER EVER vote that way again. McKinney got my vote in the last election and if everyone had researched Obama and learned the ways of the media, they would have seen that is where their vote should have gone. Imagine the shock and awe of the Republicrats the next morning to find the media-muted PROGRESSIVE makes-Rumsfeld-shake-in-his-pants-during-questioning-in-Congress Cynthia McKinney. They would have known then that the people could not be fooled any longer.
 
 
+16 # fedupcitizen 2011-08-30 16:24
@ Stanley: NO, NO, NO . . . Ralph Nader was not responsible for Gore losing. If you remember, Bush's Rethugnicans stopped the vote recount and then he was selected by the Supreme Court, who had as one of it's members, Kathleen Harris who worked on his campaign. Can we say CONFLICT OF INTEREST??? If you want to learn how Bush was Selected not elected, read Greg Palast's book: The Best Democracy Money Can Buy. He exposes all the dirty tricks the Rethugnicans used to disenfranchise Black/Latino voters . . . telling them they were ineligible, or not providing enough voting machines.
 
 
+15 # reiverpacific 2011-08-30 16:46
Quoting
@ Stanley: NO, NO, NO . . . Ralph Nader was not responsible for Gore losing. If you remember, Bush's Rethugnicans stopped the vote recount and then he was selected by the Supreme Court, who had as one of it's members, Kathleen Harris who worked on his campaign. Can we say CONFLICT OF INTEREST??? If you want to learn how Bush was Selected not elected, read Greg Palast's book: The Best Democracy Money Can Buy. He exposes all the dirty tricks the Rethugnicans used to disenfranchise Black/Latino voters . . . telling them they were ineligible, or not providing enough voting machines.

Absolutely agree! The entire RepublicSWAT dirty-tricks squad was brought out to violently intimidate and harass even the people who were actually performing the Bush-Gore recount in Tallahassee that "Selection" -flown in especially by Ken Ley's private plane.
These people will stop at nothing and make the Hitler S.A. Brownshirts look like amateurs. We have to get nasty folks, the age for dialogue is over and remember -they are mostly cowards!
And I personally, will NEVER forget that super-whore to Jeb Bush, Kathleen Hariss' smug, public, on-air pronouncement of the verdict when it was all over (to her satisfaction) that "Democracy has prevailed" -or words to that effect. Talk about rubbing dung in the voter's faces!
 
 
+5 # Water Colour 2011-08-30 16:58
First step: http://daviddegraw.org/2011/08/anonymous-to-occupy-wall-street-on-september-17th-expect-us/
 
 
-3 # genierae 2011-08-30 17:12
Never mind. By the end of 2012 we will be living in a completely different world and it won't matter much who gets elected president. Corporate Republicans will be "left behind", forced to live in the doomed world that they have created, the rest of us will be lifted up to an alternate reality where we will awaken to a higher consciousness. No more Republicans! Whoopee!
 
 
+4 # Babe 2011-08-31 01:42
Ok, we have no alternative but to vote for Obama in 2012. Let's make it HOT for him, and keep up the protests. Go to the pipeline in huge numbers and have signs; keep it up with everything that goes against the environment! That's our best option. Hey, it worked for the Tea Party guys!! Nothing is gained without action. Let's get our guys in the House and Senate, so overpowering that the President will have no choice, but to protect the environment. We could call ourselves The Clean Party!
 
 
+3 # S.P.Q.R. 2011-08-31 07:21
@genierae: "Alternate reality" is your operative phrase. You have all of the zeal of the true believer but none of the clarity of a concerned citizen. You are also a Tea Party member which is why you can be against Republicans, and presumably, Democrats as well. You are too late to emerge from your cocoon of apathy. Revolution and the destruction of government are horrible alternatives to not knowing issues, not voting, not answering the incessant alarums as lobbied interests have eroded out democracy for decades. Lastly, you sound as if you and your friends are about to be saved by some grand political rapture...which adds schizoid paranoia to your predictions.
 
 
+1 # genierae 2011-09-01 13:59
AC: My comment was made with tongue in cheek, but I am certain that this corrupt American society is coming to an end. Things are becoming so screwed up that I see no way to solve these immense problems using past methods. Only spiritual evolution will lift us above them, where we can see more clearly what can be done. My "cocoon of apathy" is nonexistent, you know nothing of my actions, past and present, and so please don't assume that you do. The old ways, including the old institutions, are passing away, and those who are absorbed in the present chaos can't see the forest for the trees. An immense wave of consciousness is sweeping across this planet, its time to turn away from sarcastic attacks on those who disagree with us, and wake up to a new world.
 
 
+8 # dougpage2 2011-08-30 17:12
After voting Democratic since 1946, I have come to the conclusion that Obama is the most dangerous President we could have. Why? Because his gifted oratory is perfectly chosen to stifle all resistance. If we did not have Obama, we could organize, march in the streets carrying our pots, pans, and pitchforks. The evidence is overwhelming by this time that Obama is the servant of the Banks, Insurance Companies, Munitions Manufacturers, and Israel. We will continue to be immobilized until we are rid of him. The fact is that we no longer have ballot box power. It is a delusion to think that voting for Obama will make a difference.
 
 
+4 # futhark 2011-08-31 03:26
No person who has "gifted oratory" is so reliant on teleprompters that he cannot give a speech without looking ridiculously like someone watching a tennis match from the end of the net.

Can you imagine Lincoln delivering the Gettysburg Address a la Obama?: (facing left) "Four score and seven years ago..." (look to the right) "our fathers brought forth on this continent,..." (look back to the right) "a new nation, conceived in Liberty,...(look back to the left) "and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal."(look back to the right).

Beyond Mr. Obama's obviously stilted style is his complete subservience to the financial, military-industrial, and surveillance complexes that determine policy in the federal government. Join me in reregistering as a Green Party member to send a message to the Democrats that they had better start standing up for truth, justice, and sustainability. We have nothing to lose but our future.
 
 
+2 # NOMINAE 2011-08-30 23:45
Quoting
....We may appreciate but too many do not want all that Yale words, they want people who can talk to them.


Instead of demanding that everyone "dumb down" to your level of comprehension and comfort, how about you buy a dictionary and attempt to *come up* to a basic level of standard english fluency yourself ?
 
 
+5 # noitall 2011-08-31 08:29
It will take as much effort to raise the intelligence of Americans in all areas as it did to dumb them down. It's been near 30 years since Reagan pulled the funds from Civics classes in Public schools. Think about it.
 
 
0 # dorianb@fuse.net 2011-09-06 14:01
This has nothing to do with a solution to the vast problems we are facing today.
Obama has brought our precious America down to an all-time low and he should be ashamed of himmself rather than lie, blame and come up with namby-pamby excuses. If he does not get out of the race now we will be taken over by the Tea Party crowd--Perry,Bachman, Palin et al who are myopic, poorly educated bigots who sound more and more like Nazis. We know to get rid of Obama and find someone to support who will do the right thing and who has the courage, commitment and intellect to get the US back on track where every citizen is valued and protected and our country is respected as a great nation.
 
 
+4 # S.P.Q.R. 2011-08-31 07:11
We face the same conundrum we always do between a few thousand ardent demonstrators in front of the White House and presidential support for heavily lobbied legislation. The solutions to such dilemmas are all a priori and include serious media coverage, voter reform; eliminating lobbyists, the omnibus bill, gerrymandering and super pacs; redefining the legal status of corporations, instituting a flat tax and a slew of other and less obvious measures. In short, it's too late by the time protestors show up unless it's an overarching tragedy like the war in Viet Nam or the Watergate Conspiracy. Demonstrating the signing of low gas mileage legislation is like remembering the punch line to a joke after you've left the party.
 
 
+4 # Cattivo 2011-09-01 04:05
"I'd put my money on the sun and solar energy. What a source of power! I hope we don't have to wait until oil and coal run out before we tackle that." --Thomas Edison (1931)
 
 
0 # salmagundi 2011-09-02 14:00
many excell. comments:SPQR, futhark, nominae, - genierae, etc.- BUT - I've been watching RSN long-time, & rarely see reference to the real solution: we need a paradigm shift to an acceptance of a std. of Less, Not More to bring consumption in line with bio/enviro needs of our only home planet. Otherwise, our g'kids don't have a future!
 
 
0 # giraffee2012 2011-09-02 17:40
Don't know if anyone is still reading this - but the 2 times we lost to a GOP - was when Ralph Nader ran. I think he'd make a great President but we are a 2 party system so a vote for a 3rd party candidate - HANDS a vote to the GOP / TP.

Please vote democratic in 2012 -- not voting is the same as handing our government over to the most TERRIBLE people ever - even worse than Bush/Cheney (although we'll never recover from the harm they did to us)

VOTE in 2012 -- else we are doomed. If in a GOP run state - register early - get mail-in ballots and take it to the polling place and put it IN
 
 
0 # dorianb@fuse.net 2011-09-06 13:45
It is time OBAMA did the right thing and stepped down. If enough strong people who are avid Liberal Progressives could band together like the Tea Party people have done, we could for a grassroots movement strong enough to write in Bernie Saunders and Elizabeth Walker or similar people who care about our citizens and country and whatis meant by America being a free country. Obama was never up to the job of being President of the US and is incapable of finding solutions for the multi-faceted problems we are fACING or taking any personal responsiblilty for his defunct policies and bad decision-making. Noone wants Rick Perry running this country but that is what we are facing if OBAMA DOES NOT FACE HIS FAILURE AS PRESIDENT OF THE US.
 

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