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On the strength of network predictions that President Barack Obama has won state of Ohio, RSN is projecting that he has enough electoral college votes to prevail.

Obama wins re-election. (photo: AP)
Obama wins re-election. (photo: AP)


Obama, Warren, McCaskill, Donnelly Victorious

By Reader Supported News Staff and Wire Reports

06 November 12

 

n the strength of network predictions that President Barack Obama has won state of Ohio, RSN is projecting that he has enough electoral college votes to prevail.

In Massachusetts all major broadcast networks have declared Elizabeth Warren the winner over Republican incumbent Scott Brown.

Insensitive remarks on the reproductive rights of rape victims by Republican senate candidates have propelled Democrats Claire McCaskill and Joe Donnelly to victory in Missouri and Indiana respectively.

A very successful night for the Democrats overall.



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+46 # Barbara K 2012-11-06 22:43
WOW!!!!! I just jumped up and down and cheered!!!!! How Sweet It Is. Can you tell that I'm glad? We are all winners tonight. Keeping the Senate too. Wish we could have taken the House, but I guess we can't have everything. lol. Romney trying to stop Ohio from going to Obama. Give it up, Romneyhood and bye bye.

OBAMA/BIDEN 2012
VICTORY
 
 
+10 # BradFromSalem 2012-11-07 10:35
Group Hug!
 
 
+44 # MainStreetMentor 2012-11-06 23:02
Thank Goodness! Truth. Honesty. Sincerity. Caring ... and ... very hard work by hundreds of thousands of people who want America to be wrested away from the Greedy and the "we-can-buy-any thing" including our government representatives made these victories possible. Congratulations to all the new office holders!
 
 
+29 # lincolnimp 2012-11-06 23:21
PHEW
 
 
+5 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 09:45
I would double triple that thumbs up
 
 
+23 # DPM 2012-11-06 23:40
Finally! I can begin answering my phone again!
 
 
+19 # giraffee2012 2012-11-06 23:44
Best news - Obama/Biden + Warren.

Now if Romney wants to run for President again, I hear there's job openings in Iran, Syria, Lybia, Egypt. Since economy is not doing well, you have to go to one of these countries for a job -

Since President Obama took this job in USA, even though nobody likes to leave home, Romney can afford to fly home on weekends if he takes a job in one of THOSE countries.

We not only export jobs we can export presidential candidates.

Although I empathize with how he's feeling - because I understand he cannot win all the time - even with a lot of money. Soooo sad.
 
 
+6 # indian weaver 2012-11-07 06:44
I once lost something myself. So I can understand how horrible he must feel, I hope.
 
 
+5 # Smokey 2012-11-07 06:55
I suggest Somalia or Haiti for Romney and Ryan and their libertarian friends. In both countries, government does "next to nothing." People are free to do almost anything. Taxes and regulations can be easily ignored.

Religion is important in Somalia and Haiti. Voodoo entertainment delights the tourists and Somalia has some Muslim fanatics who have interesting opinions about women's rights and gay rights.

Export Presidential candidates? An interesting suggestion.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 09:46
I figure that Nittens will be looking at a palatial home in China
 
 
-2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 09:45
I heard he prefers China
 
 
+8 # dkonstruction 2012-11-07 10:34
Quoting KittatinyHawk:
I heard he prefers China


Instead of "china bashing" we should be calling on US workers (and particularly the unions) to be reaching out to chinese workers (as well as other workers around the world) and organizing internationally . There are now something like 10,000 strikes (the chinese call them "incidents") a year in china as chinese workers are still some of the most exploited in the world.

China, or at least the chinese working class (which is the vast majority of the population) are not our (i.e., the US working class) enemies.

Both parties to some degree play the china bashing game as it is a great distraction away from the real culprits and cause of the economic decline of the US working and middle-classes which is not china but rather our own homegrown 1%.

Time for us to stop falling for this old nativist, jingoistic distraction and focus on the real enemies.
 
 
+4 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 14:25
Amen. Now if the IWW became a force again, that would really be something to celebrate.
 
 
+2 # dkonstruction 2012-11-08 08:52
Quoting Matt_OccupyEarth:
Amen. Now if the IWW became a force again, that would really be something to celebrate.


I hear ya Matt. One Big Union was always the way to go (and still is) but at the very least if we are going to be able to effectively take on global capital well then labor too must be global and at the very least we should be talking about organizing along trade lines internationally . If "they" want the free flow of capital then we need to be demanding equivalents on the labor side (not that i think we should be supporting the whole "free trade" free flow of capital stuff but that's another story).
 
 
+2 # Michael Lee Bugg 2012-11-08 09:17
Dkonstruction: I agree with you 110%! China did not come over here and force their often times poorly made consumer goods on us, our very own "job creators" closed their American factories, kicked their loyal American workers to the curb, and created jobs in China to exploit far cheaper, and desperate Chinese people to enhance their personal fortunes! The Walton family should be rounded up and exiled to China because their 'business model' has cost us more manufacturing jobs because of their insatiable greed than any other family in America! I have said for years that the only hope for our manufacturing workers and the managers and engineers and accountants who must have them to have jobs themselves is for Chinese and Mexican workers to unionize and fight for their rightful share of the income from their labor!!!
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2012-11-09 12:08
Quoting KittatinyHawk:
I heard he prefers China

Paraguay.
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-11-07 10:13
I think he'll charter a boat with Lovie and go on a 3-hour tour - A THREE HOUR TOUR!

...I wonder if he can make a two-way radio out of coconuts.
 
 
+41 # X Dane 2012-11-06 23:52
What a relief. I was truly worried, that we would have a president Romney. Now I would like to see that nasty....Adelso n explode, and the Koch brothers, Carl Rove, and Trump too. To think about ALL THE MILLIONS they blew to beat Obama.

OK Barbara K enough of us voted for the democrats. I hope you are happy? AND we did get Elisabeth Warren into the senate along with Tammy Baldwin from Wisconsin. And courageous Tammy Duckworth beat that nasty SOB, Joe Walsh. He sure needed to go.
Congratulations to all of us.

Now comes the toughs stuff that needs to get done. I am afraid a lot of the people, who just voted for Obama, will be angry at him, because a lot of difficult issues must be addressed, and there will be a lot of pain to go around. But I hope we can get through it. For it MUST be done.
 
 
+6 # guyachs 2012-11-07 09:20
You are right about the tough stuff. Republicans have the house and can still filibuster. Boehner already announced nothing has changed. In other words, compromise still means, do it my way.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 09:51
Akins, we must remember Akins went away...

First on his mind is Disaster and getting it done. Between him and the Governors, it will get done. Cuomo is already telling not asking Corporations and Millionaires he is expecting matching donations to help those single parents, disabled, seniors who do not have insurance. He is going to see that every door is knocked on and a fund started.
I think if he can do this, we are going barrel over CU and start getting jobs back in America or boycott allowing the crap in here.

We have a chance, everyone here and America to keep our heads up, work together and get the changes necessary to make America Number One Again It takes the Village to do so
 
 
+24 # Michael Lee Bugg 2012-11-06 23:59
This restores my faith in the American people, a little. My state of Kentucky got a lot redder, possibly for racial reasons but more likely because of gullibility by too many to Republican empty promises and fantastical claims! Obama must focus on the economy and job creation, restoring a progressive tax code with higher rates for the top 5%, reducing our bloated military budget, and stop the excessive hand ringing over the deficit. Get Americans back to work paying
federal income taxes and end the nonsense that we have to be the
policeman of the world and the deficit will shrink on it's own! The deficits during WW2 were far higher as a percentage of gross domestic product than the deficits now and we did not collapse. The debt was paid down thanks to a truly progressive tax code with a top marginal rate of 91% for ALL income over $200,000 for individuals with no distinction between wages and capital gains. I personally favor eliminating the corporate income tax since they cheat to the point of ridiculousness anyway, which only makes their value to real investors unclear, in exchange for a more progressive personal income tax rate with a top bracket of 49% of all earned income over $10,000,000 and a progressive capital gains tax table. Capital gains should be 5% on the first $100,000, 10% on the next $400,000, 15% on the next $500,000, 20% on the next $1,000,000, 25% on the next $3,000,000, and 30% on all capital gains over $5,000,000.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 09:53
Lot of red seemed to like blue in Senate...perhap s they are putting out Crumbs before the Horse. Cannot blame them, dye hards after all.

Now the Corporate States...Indust ry and Farm look out want red, well we are going to want to see your tax money, bring back jobs because CU is going down...
 
 
-17 # Robt Eagle 2012-11-07 11:45
Mike, would it be ok to stop giving away free phones to those who don't need it. Would it be a good idea to stop welfare to those who have more than say two children? Would it be ok to stop providing ObamaCare to those who are obese, alcoholics, drug addicts, gang members, etc? By the way, there are no penalties in ObamaCare for those who fail to pay the penalties for not joining the ObamaCare alliancesor can't afford it, so the law has no effective teeth except for real tax payers who actually work for a living. Ok if we have the elderly with medical conditions that are expensive not qualify for those procedures? No worries, it is already part of ObamaCare. We need to stop spending for those who produce nothing in society. Better to implement your Capital gains schedule above, but also phase out over the next 25 years ALL entitlements and get the population responsible for their actions or inactions. Now between the two of us, that is a great solution!!!
 
 
+4 # dkonstruction 2012-11-07 12:48
Since Romney has more than 2 kids and receives lots of "welfare" by virtue of the fact that the bulk of his taxes are paid at lower capital gains rates i'm assuming you are talking about starting with cutting the corporate and tax "welfare" that goes to the wealthy in this county and if so i salute your proposal.

And, i also agree we should eliminate the capital gains tax. It's income so tax it at the same rate as all other income. Again, i salute your proposal.

Also, i'm not sure why you are singling out obese, alcoholic, drug addict gang members...they should be able to get the same "benefits" as other gang members like the ones in Skull and Bones don't you think?

I do agree though that we should "stop spending for those who produce nothing for our society"...i have rarely heard a better argument for drastic cuts in our war budget...so, again, i salute your proposal.
 
 
+3 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 14:38
Right, because all those leeches who "don't produce anything" aren't human beings - they don't have a right to food or health care. We should just let them starve in the streets. The richest society in the history of the world really can't afford a social safety net. And we should really let the elderly die if their medical conditions are too expensive. And for all those other people, rather than giving them full coverage, it would be much better to wait until they have to go to the emergency room and then pay for them at 10-100 times the cost. Great thinking! Ayn Rand was a genius! Also, what do you mean Obamacare has no teeth except for "real taxpayers?" You just said there are no real penalties. That's no enforcement for anyone, not just for the "leeches."
 
 
+13 # jky1291 2012-11-07 00:10
Whew!
 
 
+41 # MainStreetMentor 2012-11-07 00:24
Yo! Senator McConnell !

It would appear, Senator Mitch McConnell, that your political party’s “primary goal” of President Barack Obama being a “one-term” President, has failed.

I’m not sure you understand the saying: “turn-about is fair play”, but, suffice it to say: Democrats might now be working to assure that your next election bid for the Senate seat you currently hold will fail also, but, it will NOT be their PRIMARY goal, because, you see, they believe their primary goal is to help run the country, not destroy a man.

Have a nice day.
 
 
-66 # Robt Eagle 2012-11-07 00:32
America is doomed.
 
 
+22 # Billsy 2012-11-07 01:44
Sorry you feel that way. So, invest in gold and find a community of Romney supporters with whom to share your thoughts and feelings.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 09:57
Go build with him in China Adios
 
 
+7 # LizR 2012-11-07 02:33
Quoting Robt Eagle:
America is doomed.

Yep, as are we all. But at least now it may last a bit longer, especially if Obama gets his finger out on the environment.
 
 
+8 # Merschrod 2012-11-07 04:44
Ok, Bob, please state some specific indicators of doom that we can track over the next four years. Perhaps we can show you the light so that the next time around you will come along and vote for a decent candidate. Seriously, Bob, define doom.
 
 
-2 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 08:04
1st indicator of doom: 392 ppb carbon in atmosphere. Per 350.org: "we can burn 565 more gigatons of carbon dioxide and stay below 2°C of warming — anything more than that risks catastrophe for life on earth. The only problem? Fossil fuel corporations now have 2,795 gigatons in their reserves, 5 times the safe amount. And they’re planning to burn it all — unless we rise up to stop them." Obama has no plans to do anything to stop this from happening - in fact, he's going to speed up the process by allowing more fossil fuel extraction - so unless we the people manage to do something ourselves, most life on this planet will be coming to an end.

2: Sabre-rattling against Iran, support for Israeli apartheid state, possible world war.

3: Obama's kill list, Obama's child-murdering drone bombs, indefinite detention, no habeus corpus, illegal domestic spying, war on whistleblowers, violence against & arrest of peaceful demonstrators - all becoming entrenched bipartisan policies.
 
 
+5 # Reductio Ad Absurdum 2012-11-07 09:14
ALL of which would have become worse under Romney, not to mention a greater likelihood of all-out war against Iran and a greater coddling of multi-national fossil fuel companies.

A wise man doesn’t throw away the good just because it comes in a package that's not ALL good. NOTHING in the history of democracy indicates that's the way progress has EVER been achieved. The unrealistic insistence on getting everything will get us nothing.
 
 
+3 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 14:51
You seem to have missed the point. Even if Romney would have been a tiny bit worse, under Obama's policies we will still have ensured our own extinction within the next couple decades. So how is that better? It's kind of like a t-shirt I saw: "What about all the good things that Hitler did?" If you truly think that supporting Obama was the pragmatic course of action, fine, but at least don't make him out to be some kind of progressive hero, because he's not progressive in the least. He is a continuation of the George W. Bush administration.
 
 
0 # Reductio Ad Absurdum 2012-11-09 11:18
And you evidently missed my point. Any rational adult knows that we have to make lesser-evil choices every day. Take the good, fight for the better, step-by-step. A tiny bit worse? Two words: Supreme Court. Hitler? What a desperate analogy. I didn't make Obama out a hero — I never mentioned Obama.

Stomp your feet and hold your breath and demand everything happen your way all at once — or grow up and realize this war is like any other war — incremental.
 
 
0 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-24 23:10
No, I guess you didn't mention Obama. You indicated that electing Romney instead of Obama would be a catastrophe, which one would think means there are significant differences between the two. I'm never said we should never make a "lesser evil" choice - I'm saying that the differences between the two parties and their nominees are trivial. As for the Supreme Court, have you actually looked at the records of Kagan and Sotomayor in their careers up till now, or are you just going on the popular myth that they are leftists?

If a lesser evil that includes mass murder is acceptable to you, I guess that's your problem. But what I was trying to stress is that the environment is one issue that has a set expiration date, and the Democrats have shown no indication that they are going to even come close to making the necessary changes to avoid that. Like I said, go to 350.org and read the science. How much good is your incremental reform going to be when 3/4 of the world is desert?
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:09
Yo I have a kill list summer it is insects...I do it with organic measures since I raise plants and animals.
I have I wish they were dead list so that is a Kill list of sorts.
I am so glad you have walked such a fine line and love everybody...any hatred or animosity is still a kill list just modified. So Grow up, your crap has fell on deaf ears esp since it is Military and Congress that okays Killing
and they have a Kill List for sure..everyone.

Nit was the one Promising Israel to bomb Iran. It is on RSN archives and any news link including Guardian UK so again stay in grade school get an education and learn to prove your facts.
Iran has sanctions, will be inspected, and that fact is not backing down...Comprende?

I am against Drilling I believe now with information coming in....Pa. Post Gazette in Allegheny Nov 2, 2012 has found 2 DEP Testers in Court admitted that home drinking water tests were falsified. Do you know who ok'd them and DEP to do this?
A Nit Supporter
Back pocket money taking Governor
Want to clean up tar sand project, fracking, drilling in Artic Start Organizing. Get Referendums together for your community, State to have for Primary.
You want to make difference, than do so instead of blaming everyone else.
By the Way us Environmentalis ts, we voted for OBama because he is not a sell out like Republicans. Progressive, MotherJones, Nation are just a tip of News facts
 
 
0 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 15:03
Yes, and killing insects is exactly like killing human children with drone bombs, and killing people on one man's word that they are "terrorists" without giving them any chance to defend themselves in a court of law. And no, Congress does not OK killing anymore. Obama has claimed those powers for the president. He is very proud that he personally approves every drone bombing - that is what the kill list is - and he promotes the huge lie that there are no civilian casualties. Obama entered 4 new wars without ever asking Congress for approval, in violation of the War Powers Act. And please show me where Obama has done anything other than express full support for Israel. And did you not hear Obama bragging about how he would allow more oil drilling than Romney? You're certainly right about the deaf ears, though. That, and blind eyes, and a lot of wishful thinking. You've clearly been watching a lot of MSNBC.
 
 
+1 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 08:04
4: austerity, destruction of unions & collective bargaining rights, erosion of labor rights & standards, continued corporate welfare (including Obamacare), unfair Free Trade Agreements, increasing wealth gap, no improved financial regulation.

5: takeover of agriculture by GMO's, FDA rubber-stamping w/o any evidence of safety, food tainted w/ superbugs from antibiotics in factory farming.

So enjoy your glorious "progressive" victory. I just hope you aren't now done for the next 4 years.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:12
OB isn't pushing Monsanto... M0nsanto os GOP/TP backed Company with their evil offspring.

OB didn't go after Unions GOP goes after Unions

Get or stay in school, you obviously have no clue as to what you are talking about.

If you want Change, get off your own butt and organize to make America a better place. We need more people taking a stand, getting referendum on ballot for May. Get a clue, a life and do something.

We could have been saluting the next Nazi dictatior if OB wasn't re elected, fool
 
 
+4 # dkonstruction 2012-11-07 11:00
i certainly agree with you that progressives/ra dicals etc., need to continue to organize and pressure both parties for genuinely progressive change and reform. on the other hand, we should not romanticize or mythologize who Obama is and what up until now he has stood for. So, while he may not be "pushing" Monsanto, the Obama admin has not weighed in on GMO food in general or calls for labeling it. And, while Obama did not "go after" the unions in the same ways that the GOP did, the auto "bailout" extracted big concessions from the unions (far more than were given by the companies) particularly for future workers.

so, i agree we need to keep organizing, protesting, building alternative institutions etc....but let's not fall into the same trap as many did during Obama's first term and view him as the "savior" he never was or ignore some of the really horrible things he has and continues to support.
 
 
0 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 15:22
Um, the FDA is part of the executive branch. Obama said he supported the labeling of GMO's, and he could have had the FDA require that, but chose not to. The FDA has to approve every new GMO variety before it can go into commercial production, and the idea is that they would determine that it is safe before doing so, but Obama's FDA, just like Bush's, simply rubber stamps everything that biotech puts before it, when none of them have been tested for safety at all and there is ample evidence that they are harmful.

You can spare me the childish name-calling - it only shows that you have no leg to stand on. Please show me one piece of actual evidence that on any if these issues, Mitt Romney would have been worse than what Obama has done for the last 4 years (not his promises, which he consistently breaks - his actual policies).

And yes, organizing is exactly what I said we should be doing. Rather than celebrating this mythological great progressive victory as you all seem to be doing, we should be figuring out how to stop our bipartisan corporatocracy from driving us off the cliff. We'd have more time to do that if we didn't pretend that these elections actually matter.

As far as the next Nazi dictator, read this: http://bit.ly/QoYKoq. The way Hitler came to power was that in the Weimar Republic, Germany's establishment Left party failed to solve their problems, which opened the door for the violent racist ultra-nationali st populist groups to take control.
 
 
+1 # dkonstruction 2012-11-08 08:57
Bravo Matt. I have been making a similar point pre-election to all those who were saying either there is no difference at all between the two parties or that it would be better for Romney to win as this would make conditions here so bad that it would wake folks up. Unfortunately, this was exactly the same line as the German Communist Party in 1933 who refused to enter into a coaliton with the Socialists (the socialists too have some responsibility here too) based on the disasterous "social fascism" line that said better fascism than social democracy. Hitler never got a majority of the vote and if the left had formed a unitted front earlier they had almost 2/3 of the vote and could have prevented Hitler and the Nazis from ever coming to power in the first place.

Nice to see some others here with a sense of history and an understanding of why it's important to learn the lessons so we don't just keep making the same disasterous mistakes over and over.
 
 
0 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-24 23:47
I'm just starting to learn history- there's so much of it! I actually got something different from the article I read about pre-Nazi Germany, which led me to think that it possibly would have been better for Romney to win. The only reason the Social Democrats were able to come into power initially was that, after the Communists led the revolution to create a republic, about half of them decided to ally with the Social Democrats to form a majority coalition. Then, since the S.D.'s were still allied w/ the old ruling class, the gov't was completely ineffective at doing anything to help the workers. The impression I got was that since the S.D.'s were seen as "the left," a lot of people saw the left as having failed and instead went the other way to fringe groups like the Nazis. If all those Communists hadn't given their support to the S.D.'s, maybe that wouldn't have happened. I don't think I've read about the 1933 election that you're talking about, which seems to be almost the opposite situation. There definitely seem to be clear analogies between our present situation and that one. Our Democrats are like their S.D.'s and a lot of our truer leftists supported them as a lesser evil. Our right-wing fringe is groups like the Tea Partiers. If the Democrat-led government fails, people may conclude that the left has failed and go to them instead. The one fortunate difference is that while our fringe groups are racist, nationalist, and populist, they don't seem particularly violent.
 
 
+3 # dkonstruction 2012-11-07 15:09
Quoting Matt_OccupyEarth:
4: austerity, destruction of unions & collective bargaining rights, erosion of labor rights & standards, continued corporate welfare (including Obamacare), unfair Free Trade Agreements, increasing wealth gap, no improved financial regulation.

5: takeover of agriculture by GMO's, FDA rubber-stamping w/o any evidence of safety, food tainted w/ superbugs from antibiotics in factory farming.

So enjoy your glorious "progressive" victory. I just hope you aren't now done for the next 4 years.


Sad, that now that the election is over and Obama has won that there are still people who won't accept any criticism of this President and his administration and continue to see him as the "savior" he never was and don't understand that substantive progressive change in this country has never come from elections but rather from mass movements that had the political clout to pressure politicians to do things they otherwise simply would not do (including sacred cows like FDR who most people don't know or acknowledge that he campaigned as a moderate who was going to maintain the status quo and balance the budget).

If people think that there work is now "done" because the election is over then we will have just more of the same and whatever opportunities exist will have been squandered.

It's not up to Obama or congress folks; it's up to us.
 
 
0 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-24 23:22
Hear, hear. I think what pissed me off the most during the campaign was MSNBC. I used to think they had some amount of integrity, but now they truly seem to be the Democrats' version of Fox News. It was very disappointing, because I actually liked Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O'Donnell.

By the way, the new Oliver Stone mini-series _Untold History of the United States_ has started playing on HBO. I watched the first episode and it looks really good. He was debunking the ideas that the U.S. rulers were opposed to the Nazis or that we got into WWII for humanitarian purposes, which touched somewhat on that FDR sacred cow.
 
 
-12 # Robt Eagle 2012-11-07 11:36
Merschrod, just read the history of Eastern Europe in the 1930's through the 1940's. The similarities are very close. Obama is only out for power, Chicago style. He will use his Exective Orders to bypass Congress, appoint Supreme Court Justices to do his bidding, have Eric Holder turn a blind eye to all Obama's violations of the US Constitution, and there won't be any 2016 elections as Obama will have anointed himself Emperor way before that time. Obama will allow AlQuaeda to flourish (already doing that by leaving Iraq) and attack US soil as he gives a "stand down" order as he did in Benghazi. Obama will allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons and the Middle East will threaten the world and sieze control (per his treatment of Israeli Netanyahu). Our Navy will become obsolete and no new ships will be built. Our Army and Marines will be neutered (Obama never prosecutes terrorist violators on our own soil, or fosters esprit de corps by treating our military like crap, except for phot ops). Our Special Ops Forces, which my oldest son is part of (Navy SEAL officer), will be diminished so as to have no capabilities (pulling SOF out of Afghanistan). Federal gun registration will begin shortly, and confiscation will be attempted in about three years in preparation of Obama's complete control of all things. Time will tell.
 
 
+4 # dkonstruction 2012-11-07 12:54
Anyone who seriously tries to argue that there are "similarities" between 21st century US to 1930s-40s Eastern Europe is making a great case for a massive overhaul in our public education system (not to mention drastic increases in its budget).

On the other hand, if you are a betting man i would be happy to wager everything on your claim that Obama will cancel the 2016 election...i had to take a significant pay cut when i took a new job after being laid off so i'm looking for ways to supplement my income. so, as my mom used to say "put up or shut up." I'll even give you odds.
 
 
+11 # indian weaver 2012-11-07 06:46
Well, maybe you and your world is doomed. So sorry. Not mine. We must live in different worlds? I'm from Earth.
 
 
-10 # Robt Eagle 2012-11-07 14:06
indian, we all live together, wether you wish to believe it or not. When the wealthy no longer wil deal with the unfair excessive taxation under Obama's policies, they will go underground and the poor will suffer the most. Obama does not care about any of this, he is just in search of more and more contol (power). No worries, you and the lemmings led to the polls will never deal with factual data. The media let Obama slide on so many things, and well, time will tell. God bless the American people, for they surely will need his blessing. The earth will survive as it is very vast, unless you believe in the rediculous scienc of Global Warming.
 
 
+2 # dkonstruction 2012-11-07 16:00
Quoting Robt Eagle:
indian, we all live together, wether you wish to believe it or not. When the wealthy no longer wil deal with the unfair excessive taxation under Obama's policies, they will go underground and the poor will suffer the most. Obama does not care about any of this, he is just in search of more and more contol (power). No worries, you and the lemmings led to the polls will never deal with factual data. The media let Obama slide on so many things, and well, time will tell. God bless the American people, for they surely will need his blessing. The earth will survive as it is very vast, unless you believe in the rediculous scienc of Global Warming.


So on the one hand you want "us" (though i'm not one of the "lemmings" you referred to...though i still do love that record....since i am in NY i was able to vote for the Green Party) to deal with "facual data" but on the other hand this data should not be that "rediculous scienc" (sic) stuff...interes ting how you reconcile those two positions.
 
 
+5 # BradFromSalem 2012-11-07 08:16
In all seriousness. I get it. You really believe the Right Wing philosophy of governing is the best solution to America's problems. But, here is the reality. Every two years on the national level we do a democratic reset of our national priorities. Every other reset, we also allow a reset of the president. And lastly, every other presidential reset, change is mandatory. There is symmetry to the process, you must admit.

Two years ago, the nation reset the philosophy to the Right Wing philosophy. Unfortunately for them, the Right Wing's philosophy was never put forward in any legislation. The party that took over the House proclaiming that they were all about jobs, did not present one single jobs bill! The philosophy came up empty.

So, being somewhat fickle and impatient the public turned against the do nothing except ban abortions Right Wing and re-elected the President.

The challenge to the Right Wing is to engage in the debate and introduce legislation that will actually move the nation forward. Blocking everything the Democrats propose isn't working for you guys, the votes are in, either work with us or resign.
 
 
+3 # erogers 2012-11-07 09:03
Quoting Robt Eagle:
America is doomed.

Eagle will NEVER provide specifics to why he feels the way he does. He never has done so. My advice Robert; go back to your cave and then in three years your right wing puppet masters can roll you out again to once more provide statements of doom and gloom. In the mean time, America will do just fine thank you.
 
 
+4 # opinionaire 2012-11-07 09:36
This is the attitude that created the deadlock we have been dealing with as a nation. The votes are in, the people have spoken-even the psuedo people, like The Donald-and this is our result and our reality. Work FOR the country, not against this administration, or count yourself as the symbol and method of doom.
 
 
0 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 09:56
I am sorry you didn't have the Chance to wish you were dead

We Won, We Won, We Won....America Won, Americans Won....

Corporations who do not pull it together...Adio s.
Yo Congress, I think people have given a message and you a chance to listen. Otherwise you will be gone, gone, gone in two years...Take that to the BANK

We Won, We Won, We won....We are Proud to Be Americans. Traitors Beware
 
 
+5 # dkonstruction 2012-11-07 11:23
Quoting Robt Eagle:
America is doomed.


If you are talking about America as an "empire" or as the leader of global capitalism i hope you are right but for that to be the case it will take a lot more organizing and building of a genuinely radical political movement in this country.

this is the true task of progressives at this point otherwise it will be more of the same "new democrats" which are the much closer to the republicans of the post world war II era (at least up until Nixon if not Reagan) then they are to the old FDR "new deal" democrats and even there it was a mass movement that pushed FDR into proposing the New Deal and gave us much of the modern welfare state legislation that has been under attack (in many ways from both parties) for the past 30+ years.

so, depending on which America you think is doomed i might agree with you and more than that welcome it as it is long overdue.
 
 
+30 # Majikman 2012-11-07 00:33
And now the work begins. The 99% (maybe not quite that percentage)has defeated the big money. I hope that gives us the impetus we need to demand that Obama listens to us and make the changes we should be mobilizing to demand.
 
 
-5 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 09:06
I hope so too, but almost no one has demanded shit in the last 4 years, so why should anything change now?
 
 
0 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-24 23:00
Who are these people who vote down all my comments? I would love to know the reason - am I saying something that is factually incorrect, or do you just resent someone speaking plain truth?
 
 
+27 # maddave 2012-11-07 00:48
As I sat tonight watching TV, I was filled with empathy for our right wing brethren: they knew that the results from California, Oregon & Washington were bearing down on them like a steam roller, and there was no, place to hide. Over the hours that the solemn reports rolled westward, my thoughts turned more and more to Admiral Dewey in Manila Bay and the inner turmoil that he must have felt as his armada systematically destroyed the Spanish fleet. Tonight's debacle helped me to understand why he uttered those immortal words: "Don't cheer, Boys. Those poor devils are dying."

It was over before midnight. The plans and fruits growing out of the Gingrich years blew up in their faces. The Republican Party that's evolved over the past sixteen years is lying in ruins - a shamble that will not regain its once proud position in American politics for a decade, if then. By that time I hope that we will have averted a major war with Iran and that Justices Ginsberg, Breyer, Kennedy & Scalia will all have been replaced by a progressive Administration . . , which were my major concern all along.

Amen
 
 
+29 # LeeBlack 2012-11-07 00:56
I hope that those oligarchs who 'invested' so many millions in this election for naught realize that there are better ways to invest their money - in American workers, in public education, for example.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:14
They will find ways to write it off, so IRS .. You better do your Job this year including the Back Tax of Nittens and family
 
 
+16 # LizR 2012-11-07 01:03
Yay!

Intelligent life detected in America!

Just listening to Romney and Obama's speeches and it's the difference between an exclusive and an inclusive America.

I only hope Obama gets onto the things he's hinted at - climate change and peak oil both got a mention, together with what in any other country would be called communism - i.e. caring for each other (obviously nothing to do with the so-called communism of the USSR etc)
 
 
+2 # Charles3000 2012-11-07 04:15
Quoting LizR:
Yay!

Intelligent life detected in America!

Just listening to Romney and Obama's speeches and it's the difference between an exclusive and an inclusive America.

I only hope Obama gets onto the things he's hinted at - climate change and peak oil both got a mention, together with what in any other country would be called communism - i.e. caring for each other (obviously nothing to do with the so-called communism of the USSR etc)

Some people call "caring for each other" Christanity...
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:16
Lost Christianity in the Collection Plates.

People still have it in themselves to dare to care Disasters prove it...Thanks NJ for going Blue Yahoooo
 
 
+14 # WolfTotem 2012-11-07 01:13
Can't believe this!

Maybe, maybe the world can breathe again, as we enter this new air-lock.

But there's one thing we MUST not do: people can't afford to return to couch-potatodom , as they did 4 years ago.

And now the BIGGEST challenge: how to recover inclusiveness, how to bridge the partisan gulf? How to revive DIALOGUE and TRUE DEBATE across party lines after all those years of sterile trench warfare?

Americans need to seek and find ways of reviving the citizens' associations that brought them TOGETHER for the best part of two centuries, and to box in the corporate barons and divisive special interest lobbies whose excessive power has done so much to ruin us all.

Now, politicians, starting with the President, need courage, courage, courage, to reach out to and heed the advice of wise ordinary folk, not just party hacks and pundits approved by the financial community; and by every available means to stimulate association and INCLUSIVENESS.

¡Y,FINALMENTE, TODOS, TENIAMOS QUE HACER UN ESFUERZO INAUDITO PARA ENTENDERNOS A TRAVES DE FRONTERAS RACIALES Y LINGUISTICAS! REACH OUT! AND KEEP ON REACHING OUT!
 
 
+4 # WolfTotem 2012-11-07 04:33
Quoting WolfTotem:
¡Y,FINALMENTE, TODOS, TENIAMOS QUE HACER UN ESFUERZO INAUDITO PARA ENTENDERNOS A TRAVES DE FRONTERAS RACIALES Y LINGUISTICAS! REACH OUT! AND KEEP ON REACHING OUT!


¡¡¡Que dormilón!!! Verdad, que teníamos que hacer aquel esfuerzo, pero lo que quería decir es que TENEMOS que hacerlo, todos, y ahora mismo.

Sorry, sorry! It's true there WAS, there always has been a need to reach out across racial and language divides, but I was half asleep and wrote "we should have made an effort", when I meant WE MUST.

LET'S GO!
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:24
I am so proud of all the Americans esp those who have been kept in the dark, bullied from Polls for taking those steps to Vote.
Estado Unidos para Tu!
We need your input, we all need to learn from each other, accept each other to take America to a new level.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:21
We should start working on referendums for next years Primary...no Fracking, tar oil, and build from their.
No GMO, Label, Label all food.
Start up American Business and disenfranchise buying Chinese ....
Support Companies that support workers and equal pay, benefits.
Law for Women .... No more Slavery, No more rules against us. We are Equals.

Planned Parenthood more care, more awareness, and preparing kids. No more unwanted pregnancies. Let's get up to date, teach the children well. Mom/Dads start teaching your sons some respect for women, teach them to keep it in their pants or learn about Birth Control. Both Partners should learn to say NO.
 
 
-7 # Robt Eagle 2012-11-07 14:09
Wolf, not to worry...Obama will use his Executive Orders to do as he bids, completely in violation of the US Constitution, however Eric Holder and the DOJ will look the other way as Obama destroys America. Congress will be side stepped and the Supreme Court with two hard left Obama appointees will do Obama's bidding as well. Too bad none of the Democratic leaders had the foresight to realize Obama's plan for America. Time will tell...
 
 
+4 # dkonstruction 2012-11-08 09:00
Quoting Robt Eagle:
Wolf, not to worry...Obama will use his Executive Orders to do as he bids, completely in violation of the US Constitution, however Eric Holder and the DOJ will look the other way as Obama destroys America. Congress will be side stepped and the Supreme Court with two hard left Obama appointees will do Obama's bidding as well. Too bad none of the Democratic leaders had the foresight to realize Obama's plan for America. Time will tell...


Obama has already named two people to the court and i only wish they had been "hard left." Both of their records prior to being on the court as well as their records since joining the court clearly demonstrate that neither are anything of the kind so again this is just more right-wing fantasy about Obama being a leftist or socialist. If only it were true.
 
 
+13 # Douglas Jack 2012-11-07 01:55
Such a relief not to have Romney with his finger on the A-bomb or supporting Israel to bomb Iran with consequences from Iran's nuclear allies Russia, China, Pakistan & India or the 120 non-aligned nations. Looks like for the moment we don't have World War 3. Still that Obama likes to punish supposed 'bad-guys' even if like Gaddafi they were Africa's # 1 development aid investor & donor with universal health-care, education, housing & employment. The US colonial system of political autocracy is unverifiable, so we will never know what really happened. The only way out of this meanness can be found in humanity's worldwide Great-Law-of-Pe ace: in the mutual-aid we can develop living in the proximity of multihome housing & the welcome we offer to all. Who is for changing the paradigm? https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/home/2-mutual-aid
 
 
+2 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 09:09
What makes you think Obama won't support Israel if they decide to bomb Iran? His support of Israel has been absolute.
 
 
+25 # Dr Peter Sloane 2012-11-07 02:03
Another posting from me here in U.K. "Thank you Americans - REALLY - Thank you" I love the quote from Obama "The best is yet to come" for all of us I hope so. Well done Michael Moore for making more of us aware of your situation and again "Well done America"
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:25
Thank you all for your thoughts, hopes and prayers.
We can make change, and World must do it together
 
 
+9 # AUCHMANNOCH 2012-11-07 02:54
Huge congratulations to the American people for confirming Obama as your President. I believe that the whole WORLD breathes a sigh of relief at this result. Here in Australia the share market shot up after we heard Obama was back in.We have had it up to here with belligerent so called Commanders in Chief in America. Great idea of yours Mr. Romney - ever heard of cooperation and diplomacy? "I will piss off China on day one!" Leave it out mate! Nice surrender speech though.
 
 
+6 # goodsensecynic 2012-11-07 05:23
While I share the schadenfreude and am relieved that the worst didn't happen ... barely, let me sprinkle a few raindrops on the parade.

Will Mr. Obama use the results as this term's excuse for refraining from a progressive agenda?

On the other hand, am I the first to murmur: "Warren for president in 2016". After all, when Obama threw her "under the bus," she bounced back to claim an even better prize that the administrative position that she was denied. So, what's next?
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:30
Last night Schieffer and his gop losers were already putting Christie Jeb Bush talk about more slime, and Ryan for 2016

I was so glad to see the women, third partiers get in there. I loved seeing Bernie up there, no doubt therre.
But it is time for you all to start your work for 2016. This waiting for the last minute backfired on Pres from many ...Want Change than start now.

I am glad for Amy. Sometimes we have to get back up and kick butt...she did. Hopefully OB saw the light, I am sure he did. Nittens would have laughed at these women, OB doesnot.

I am so proud of Americans, but in two years I want more third partiers ousting GOP/TP even Dems if need be
 
 
+3 # angelfish 2012-11-07 05:37
Sadly, the House remains in the hands of the ReTHUGlicans. I have hope that they will modify their stripes somewhat, but have serious doubts as to their ability to engage in ANY activity that might include change of ANY kind. If the Senate is Filibuster-Proo f, then it doesn't really matter. America, at any rate, WON! There IS a God in Heaven and all's right, almost, with the World!
 
 
+3 # WolfTotem 2012-11-07 07:40
Quoting angelfish:
Sadly, the House remains in the hands of the ReTHUGlicans.


While I agree about your doubts, there might just be a little hope in this. Dems will have to think hard how to address the situation. As for GOP, the policy of sabotage has failed and only morons would not be prepared to rethink it. True, there are plenty of those - and even more among their electors. Yet the scene's set for some tectonic shifting...

It's time to circulate to both Houses Edmund Burke's famous speech to the electors of Bristol. http://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch13s7.html

Some may remember the advantages of being one's own man/woman. It's always better than crawling or whoring. Voters are tired of pimps, admen, puppets, cowards and political prostitutes and even fanatics may show respect for those who stand up for themselves and their values.
 
 
-6 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 09:13
It would be so nice if we went back to the Dems controlling the presidency, 60 votes in the Senate, and a majority in the House for at least another two years, because maybe then when they still didn't get anything done, some people would start to realize that the only thing progressive about them is their empty rhetoric. I'm sure they'd still find some way to blame it on the Republicans, but hopefully some people would see through that.
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-11-07 10:16
I just hope we can get more money for the Department of Education - SPECIFICALLY FOR CIVICS CLASSES.
 
 
-4 # Robt Eagle 2012-11-08 13:49
Matt, you are reasonable and see the facts, therefore you get negative red thumbs. Unfortunately on this site, if you aren't HARD left, no one agrees with you or can see reality. As of this moment the Dow is down another 70 pts after yesterday's almost 300 pt drop. Maybe the market is responding to the Obama victory, ya think? Maybe the world is not going to appreciate the reality of more spending by Obama and no hope of reasonable governance (did you hear Harry Reid's speech yesterday?) will cause the fiscal cliff to happen and the markets around the world to collapse? House Speaker Boehner laid out essentially the Romney plan for avoiding the cliff in his speech yesterday and it seemed reasonable. I believe that the agreement is to be taxing those making incomes over $1,000,000 a year would be happy to pay an extra 5% just to save the ountry from an Obama/Reid catastrophe of monumental proportions. But that won't happen because they will blame it on the Republicans just like they did last time JUST before the ink is about to dry on the agreement and then trash it. Oh, but the Media reported it as Boehner's fault. total BS, but hey, the Media got Obama back in and the carnage is about to increase and quickly. The poor and middle class will suffer like never before, and Obama will blame it on GW Bush and the mess that the Democrats (they held both houses since 2007 through 2010, remember the truth?). Ok, back to work so I can be taxed for the dead beats to live!
 
 
+3 # dkonstruction 2012-11-08 14:09
The "Romney Plan" as you call it stated quite clearly in the debates (as did all of the other republican candidates) that they would not even accept $1 in revenue increases if they got $10 in spending cuts. That's your idea of "reasonable" ?

As for the market going down yesterday and today...well, i guess since neither candidate mentioned the entire continent of Europe during the debate perhaps you are unaware of what's going on there or is that Harry Reid and Obama's fault too.

Hopefully, the Greeks and the rest of the Europeans will tell Goldman Sachs and the rest to fuck off and default on their debt and inspire the same kind of anti-austerity movement in this country.

dead beats of the world unite!
 
 
+1 # David Starr 2012-11-08 17:31
@Robt Eagle: I'm beginning to think you're actually akin to an automated call looping over and over again.

In 2008, the Dow wasn't doing so hot either. Do we blame that on Obama?

So, the Dems, including Obama,had a near sweep. But you'll no doubt keep "looping." Can you change to another "calling script?"
 
 
0 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-24 22:57
But I am hard left - I'm a socialist/anarc hist. I'm actually surprised by how few of the people on this site seem to agree with me.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:33
I believe the scrutinizing of what they do now is going to be a priority. If they come back as smug as they were...they will not see a next term.
Third Party are on move. We will see Young and hopefully old alike, changing attitudes.
I believe the cretins were given a chance to prove they can work for America...if they do not they can look to Nittens for jobs in China
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:31
If they do not play nice, the will be replaced. Senate has a lot to say ...so let's hope GOP saw the writing on the Ballots...they have a short life span.
Third Party are moving in, we will continue to see this. Like breezes on a summer morning.

I love America.
 
 
+9 # RMDC 2012-11-07 05:41
Yes, the victory of Obama and some good senators like Warren is a relief. The best news is the defeat of the Rove/Koch/teapa rty axis of evil. With all the vote rigging and suppression, they still fell about 2 million votes short.

The downside is that I have no idea what Obama will do. He's still a blank slate. Will he finally understand that he cannot compromise with republicans? Or will he continue to triangulate and take over the republican agenda with a kinder face.

The other best news is that Hillary will now resign and some other cabinet posts may be vacated. Obama will have a chance to make some good appointments. I hope the uses this opportunity to transform his top administration by appointing some real liberals and peace makers. Obama owes this to his liberal base who worked for him again.
 
 
+3 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:39
Funny how you change sides.

OBama has alrady acknowledged that he owes us.

Now we must get organized, and start showing him we are going to do more than vote.

Fracking referendums must start Now. Tar Sands must be Public Vote. GMO must be Public Vote. We must clean up the Clean Air and Water ACT. Then we must get a new plan of defense for Disasters...Tal k about Homeland Security..these Disasters need their own.

We must work to get China inspections, China goods both food and material up to our inspections.
China wants to talk about Environment than they can figure a way to Safely Remove and Clean Tar Sands on their own...WE do not need the poison Canada has.

We must tax Corporations, Million/gazzill ionaires, and dismantle the Anti American Groups like CU. They can assemble all the want, they no longer have rights of individuals.

We have work to do, everyone here from different States should start organizing in their state...let me know Pa
 
 
+5 # jjj 2012-11-07 07:10
First: I am one of those who does not feel Obama is perfect- we need to do better at conserving energy not drilling more, and we REALLY need to stop making wars immediately.
With that in mind I think Romney's concession speech was simple and good. Let's see if he means it and follows through. If he goes to Republican Senators and Congressmen and publicly says "ok enough with the divisiveness- work with the democrats" there is hope for this country otherwise I agree with Robt Eagle.
 
 
+2 # BradFromSalem 2012-11-07 08:50
jjj,

Romney's concession speech was simple and a good message to the Republicans and the right wingers. Of course, since it was Romney delivering it, the speech amounted to a checklist of points he was supposed to make in a concession speech. Which he dis deliver in an honest, but unemotional manner. The only item on the checklist he couldn't check off was a "story" of disappointment. But, as we know, that's not Mitt.
If you think, that many Republicans are going to follow his advice, we got to get together so I can try whatever it is that you're smoking.
 
 
-1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:46
Agree with who you want.

Romney uses words like any CEO. Grow up

I am so glad we can breath, no ax over my head I can see seniors, disabled not fretting over paying way too much more.
I hope China throws Nittens out in a heart beat.

I also hope Nittens is brought up on Charges, Annie, and Delphi, Singer for their selling out Auto Workers.
Koch next, then down the line. Maybe if we make as much Public Awareness now of what these cretins are up to, IRS investigates them all Dem and Repub...we can get back on track.

May the Environment win again
May Women get some Laws that no more Dictators. Let's get a Good Rape Law into affect, no more loopholes.

You and Mr Eagle can move to China.

America needs real people, civil people, anti racists to move forward. We will no longer help you all by carrying you on our backs. You do not like OB good, Americans like us don't like your kind
You want to jump back on with your agenda...No Thanks Adios Welfare line for Farmers, Cheats, Corporations stopped last night
 
 
+4 # jjj 2012-11-07 11:20
Quoting KittatinyHawk:
Agree with who you want.

Romney uses words like any CEO. Grow up

I am so glad we can breath, no ax over my head I can see seniors, disabled not fretting over paying way too much more.
I hope China throws Nittens out in a heart beat.

I also hope Nittens is brought up on Charges, Annie, and Delphi, Singer for their selling out Auto Workers.
Koch next, then down the line. Maybe if we make as much Public Awareness now of what these cretins are up to, IRS investigates them all Dem and Repub...we can get back on track.

May the Environment win again
May Women get some Laws that no more Dictators. Let's get a Good Rape Law into affect, no more loopholes.

You and Mr Eagle can move to China.

America needs real people, civil people, anti racists to move forward. We will no longer help you all by carrying you on our backs. You do not like OB good, Americans like us don't like your kind
You want to jump back on with your agenda...No Thanks Adios Welfare line for Farmers, Cheats, Corporations stopped last night


I think you misunderstood . I feel Mr Obama should be MORE politically liberal/environ mentally radical/conserv ationist/femini st/pacifist and makes far too many concessions to conservatives. Looks that my hope for some concessions from the Ultracons offended you? I feel that hope does no harm. (and ps- I'm a low-income lifelong organic farmer).
 
 
+3 # dkonstruction 2012-11-08 12:25
How is your repeated and repeated and repeated china bashing any different than reactionaries talking about how "we want our country back" and bemoaning the loss of "traditional" American which is simply code for a country run by white folks with money?

Chinese workers are not the enemy of american workers no matter how many times you try and push this point. Instead of bashing china we should be calling for solidarity with chinese workers and calling for all workers to be organizing internationally .
 
 
+3 # dkonstruction 2012-11-07 08:53
The question now is how do progressives continue to build and expand the progressive coalition to continue to put pressure on the dems for genuinely progressive change (both domestic and foreign)?

To do this it seems to me that one place to start is by looking at some interesting demographic results beyond the ones that the mainstream talking heads keep mentioning (youth, women, african americans and latinos, etc).

For example, i think that rather than talking about red states and blue states we should see this more as an urban/rural split as Obama won the urban areas even in many deeply "red states". this suggests that we need to be talking alot more about how to craft a genuinely progressive rural agenda that could attract some of this constituency.

Also, since Obama won decisively among individuals earning under $50,000 and families earning under $100,000 this suggests to me that the so-called "class warfare" tact that the rethugs (wrongly) accused obama and the dems of engaging in is an effective strategy i.e., appealing to the majority that are in this income range. To me this suggests that the dems should not shy away from class politics but rather more fully embrace it (which would include figuring out how to reach some of the "angry white voters" that made up so much of the base of the t-party.

anyway, it strikes me that these are the types of conversations we now need to start having if we are to move forward.
 
 
+1 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 15:32
urban/rural is interesting. It is largely factory farming that has destroyed rural communities. Maybe that's why the Tea Party's empty talk about stopping corporate subsidies holds so much sway.
 
 
+2 # giraffee2012 2012-11-07 09:37
goods.... I also support E. Warren for President 2016 VP maybe Grayson (FL) - then Grayson for President after Warren's second term (2024) . . .

We have work to do from GMO to air/water quality to peace and tax reforms

We cannot afford another person fronting for the "greedy bastards" (Koch, Rove, etc) to to run the USA and lead the world.

The country will look at the R's in the house to step up to the plate now and "WORK" bc some of them are up for re-election in 2 years.

History was made on 11/6/2012.

Now the senate must define the filabuster to allow "majority to rule" --
 
 
+2 # Sweet Pea 2012-11-07 10:25
Wow, it's just like a baseball game- - and Obama hit the ball out of the park bringing in the three on base.
 
 
+1 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 10:54
It was a nice finish. I could not believe the sleaze had to push the conceding because he didn't write a speech, next excuse I want to see how the States finish Florida said goodnight, we are done til am You didnot get elected.
For the problems Florida blacks again faced...get with it GOP are not wanting minorities.

I was not optimissitic at six o'clock but at eleven I was elated. Not for myself as I would have survived, put up with Dictatorship until we overthrew. But I thought of all the Victims esp the newest...I saw the newest ones vote, over and over. God Bless You all....even you Christie.
OWS Thank You for your work in the Disaster Areas and your Vote...you made the Young Aware. I know the Women of all ages, made a Vote for Us also. Good for you

Now we have a lot to do. We need to start getting ready to clean out the House. We need new blood. As we see how our Third Parties Work, we will be looking for them in our States. We need Fresh Air, these new faces, ideas may be that breeze.
We need to get referendums in order against drilling for anything right now. More and more information is available about lies...Pa DEP not doing Water Tests for Homeowners. If it was done with this Red Evil Governor in charge...start looking in your states. Help people and start using other Addresses to get it done.
 
 
+4 # reiverpacific 2012-11-07 11:02
I don't wish to crow, as most Reactionaries not doubt would if it had gone the other way, and I applaud R' for at least appearing to lose graciously; it's the first time he's shown a glimpse of his humanity that I can recall.
To Karl Rove -eat your black heart out! To the Koch's, Adelsons and shadowy money pumpers, you can't buy everything including progress and you can only rig so many elections.
To Dung-heap Trump; see a shrink then go and open a casino in Colombia.
To those who say "America is doomed", do not pass "Go", try Paraguay and launder yourselves through the recently acquired Bush Compound for disgruntled fascists, criminals and reactionaries and leave the American people to stay "gruntled" and bring the nation into the 21st century. And take Curdled Rove with you.
Also happy for Tammy Balwin (my daughter worked on her campaign team in Wis'), Eliz' Warren and Allan Grayson ; and a strengthened Senate
Glad too that my wife and I get to stay here a little longer, as we'd decided to move back to Europe earlier than planned if the Rethugs had won.
Now don't get complacent, hold Obama's feet to the fire, get universal health coverage, renewed infrastructure and a progressive SCOTUS in place, and progressive coalitions with third and fourth parties just for starters and make the Congress critters come beggin' to work with you.
Good on ya America; now use it or lose it!
 
 
-1 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 15:34
It will be good to have Alan Grayson back in Congress - except I don't like him as much since I found out he's a Zionist.
 
 
+2 # reiverpacific 2012-11-08 20:59
Quoting Matt_OccupyEarth:
It will be good to have Alan Grayson back in Congress - except I don't like him as much since I found out he's a Zionist.

I'll check up on this personally; -had no idea.
But his IS a quite stridently courageous voice the likes of which is so sadly lacking; remember his crushing attack on the Rethug's solution to healthcare "#1 Die!", #2 "Die soon" or words to that general effect (They were outraged but never offered anything but Vouchers which is their answer to everything). We need a bunch more like that!
Back at ya on the Zionist thang.
 
 
0 # dkonstruction 2012-11-09 10:31
Quoting Matt_OccupyEarth:
It will be good to have Alan Grayson back in Congress - except I don't like him as much since I found out he's a Zionist.


thanks for pointing this one out Matt; like reiverpacific i had no idea that Grayson supported the reactionaries forces in Israel and Israeli state policy vis-a-vis the Palestinians (and perhaps others)....for what it's worth, i think it is better to refer to these folks as supporters of israeli state policy or the reactionary/rig ht-wing forces in Israel as i think the term Zionist is one of those loaded ones that often obscures more than it helps to clarify (e.g., even some of the Israeli "refusnik" soldiers that refused to serve in the occupied territories consider themselves zionists as do some in the israeli left/peace movements. I don't and have never considered myself a zionist but i think "we" open ourselves up to charges/accusat ions (whether they are true or not) of either anti-semitism or being a "self-hater" when we talk in terms of zionism as opposed to the israeli gov't and israeli state policies.

thanks for the info on Grayson on this stuff though. sad to hear.
 
 
0 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-24 22:44
Yeah, I actually wasn't aware of it during his first term in Congress, but it was pointed out to me by Cindy Sheehan when I said something positive about him on her Facebook page. Then I went to his web site and his support for Israel is right there in the open, "special relationship" and all. I guess you're right that the term "Zionist" is not really accurate - I probably just use it because it's short and convenient. There are definitely Zionists who oppose the occupation, although if they are going on the premise that Israel has some inherent "right to exist" then they are still very wrong. In any case, being anti-Zionist is not a basis to deem someone an anti-Semite or self-hating Jew. My understanding is that in the decades prior to Israel's founding, when the Zionist movement was building in Europe, the majority of European Jews were always against it. As I'm sure you know, these bogus charges of anti-Semitism are casually thrown around for all kinds of reasons, and I think they need to be debunked at every opportunity.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2012-11-07 11:02
We need to work together to see what needs fixing. OB has all the House and Senate telling him this and that.
This is our Country we have to set a list...even here. What we need to do, prioritize it. Then organize State by State, see what Groups are already working on different things, and say No more see saw motions let's put it on Referendums. Let's referendum the States until the see we are not sitting down anymore.

I know we all did our cheers, exhales, I want to thank you all for your work, belief, time to fight to keep America in Front. You have the Power and we have reminded all Yesterday,

We are something that SCOTUS will have to reckon with because that illegal CU is over. Campaign Contributions are over. Use your own money no more nonsense. I am disgusted at the waste of money in a time when Americans and the World is in such Economic Times as we are. Disgusting to waste money to say how great you think you are. Your not, you a human being that were trusted with our Safety, our Lives and You all Blew it.

Like the Disaster Victims, we must work together and grow again as a Nation. We must Promote American Products to grow this Economy. We must Demand American Products so we can produce Jobs. We must look into shredding Property Taxes, School Taxes for Elderly who do no longer work. We must get all Americans together in this Thanksgiving Season...Give Thanks, and work for Tomorrow
 
 
+1 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-07 15:38
I'm not sure what you mean that "CU is over." You think Obama would have won without hundreds of millions of dollars and SuperPACs on his side? Elections are only going to keep getting more expensive, and CU will remain the law of the land unless we're able to do something like impeach those anti-American justices.
 
 
+3 # reiverpacific 2012-11-07 20:35
Quoting Matt_OccupyEarth:
I'm not sure what you mean that "CU is over." You think Obama would have won without hundreds of millions of dollars and SuperPACs on his side? Elections are only going to keep getting more expensive, and CU will remain the law of the land unless we're able to do something like impeach those anti-American justices.

Don't forget that Montana (Republican) actually came out against CU (I suspect with some Libertarian votes) which is just the tip of the iceberg; ---it's coming. Even Obama has spoken against it. Hold on to this hope.
The current tide towards progressive balance must be maintained by vigilance, activism and involvement of progressive involvement in the same way that the Tea-Party nutcases drove the Rethugs but have now been exposed and cast them out of the grass roots milieu weakening the reactionary cause.
I can actually see Green, Socialist, and so many unheard voices merging in a progressive coalition to drive the current and future Presidents and his base into a rising and stronger current of catch-up without regression into the old "Lassize-Faire" order. And that includes the banishment of CU back to the shadows of judicial corruption and cronyism from whence it slid like toxic slime.
 
 
+2 # Janice 2012-11-07 14:54
I am not religiousperson but after this election I think there might be a God.






































OD.
 
 
+2 # Sacrebleu! 2012-11-07 16:24
Warren Sanders 2016!
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2012-11-08 21:18
Quoting Matt_OccupyEarth:
It will be good to have Alan Grayson back in Congress - except I don't like him as much since I found out he's a Zionist.

OK back at ya.
Whilst I wouldn't categorize Grayson as a "Zionist" you definitely have a valid point -in an interview with the Philadelphia Jewish Voice;
http://maxblumenthal.com/2009/12/progressive-hero-alan-graysons-secret-life-as-an-aipac-tool/
It tells me that A.G. is simply being a politician -not excusing it, just recognizing a guy who wants to be re-elected getting a strong if utterly wrong-headed PAC behind him.
However, it does diminish his image as a brutally frank voice for progressive causes.
 
 
0 # Matt_OccupyEarth 2012-11-24 22:33
I actually don't think that it's because he's being a politician - the few true progressives that we've had in Congress, like Kucinich, McKinney, and Sanders, have managed to be politically successful while remaining progressive on pretty much every issue, including Palestine. And Grayson actually strikes me as a very sincere person, hence his "Die quickly"-type quotations. Quite frankly, I think that his support for Israel is because he is Jewish, and like many Jews who are otherwise progressive, a lifetime of propaganda has caused him to be confused about the Palestine issue. It is unfortunate. Hopefully someday he will see the light.
 

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