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Sen. Bernie Sanders speaks on the Senate floor about the American people's strong belief that additional revenue from the wealthy should be part of any package to reduce the deficit.

A huge crowd at the capital in Madison, Wisconsin, greets the 'Wisconsin 14', 03/13/11. (photo: Morry Gash/AP)
A huge crowd at the capital in Madison, Wisconsin, greets the 'Wisconsin 14', 03/13/11. (photo: Morry Gash/AP)



The American People Are Angry

By Sen. Bernie Sanders, Reader Supported News

28 July 11

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If_1T4Os270

 

s House and Senate leaders fine-tuned rival deficit reduction plans on Wednesday, Sen. Bernie Sanders spoke on the Senate floor about the public's strong belief that additional revenue from the wealthy should be part of any package to reduce red ink. He cited a new Washington Post poll that found 72 percent favor raising taxes on those who make more than $250,000 year. Despite those overwhelming numbers, he said, "We are marching down a path which will do exactly opposite of what the American people want." He called Republican opposition to more revenue "fanatical." He also faulted President Obama for a bargaining strategy that sugars down to this: "Retreat after retreat after retreat." Of the competing House and Senate proposals Sanders bluntly concluded that one is bad and the other is much worse. He shared his assessment with radio host Ed Schultz.

The senator also summarized his analysis in this statement:

"The rich are getting richer, and their effective tax rate is the lowest in modern history. Many corporations are enjoying huge profits and, because of outrageous loopholes, pay nothing in taxes. Among many other absurdities, we lose about $100 billion every year from companies and individuals who stash their wealth in tax havens in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and other locations.

"And yet, the Republicans have been fanatically determined to protect the interests of billionaires and large multi-national corporations so that they do not contribute one penny toward deficit reduction. The Republicans want the entire burden of deficit reduction sacrifice to be placed on the elderly, the sick, children, and working families. That is morally wrong and, in terms of getting us out of this recession, bad economic policy.

"Sadly, the Democrats have yielded far, far too much. In December, with the Democrats controlling the White House, the House of Representatives and the Senate they extended Bush's tax breaks for the rich and lowered the tax rates on estates for the very rich. In April, they allowed tens of billions of dollars in cuts to vitally important programs for low- and moderate-income Americans.

"And now, we find ourselves debating two plans. The Reid plan, which calls for $2.2 trillion in cuts over a 10-year period, includes $900 billion in cuts (which will be determined later by committees) in education, health care, nutrition, affordable housing, child care and many other programs desperately needed by working families. Appropriately, it calls for meaningful cuts in military spending and ending the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. The Reid plan does not require the wealthiest people in this country and the largest corporations to pay one nickel in deficit reduction.

"The Reid plan is bad. The Boehner plan is much worse. It calls for large cuts in discretionary spending now and demands that this debt-ceiling discussion be revisited next year - which is totally absurd and which will likely keep the Congress paralyzed.

"Lastly, both plans call for a congressional committee to determine future efforts toward deficit reduction. Based on recent committees - Bowles-Simpson, the Gang of Six, etc. - I have little doubt that that new committee will call for major cuts in Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid and will ask very little of the wealthy and multi-national corporations.

"Meanwhile, while all of this is occurring in Washington the American people have consistently stated, in poll after poll, that they want the wealthy and large corporations to pay their fair share of taxes and they want to protect Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. For example, a recent Washington Post poll found that 72 percent of the American people believe that Americans earning over $250,000 a year should pay more in taxes.

"Given that reality, is there any reason to wonder why the American people are so angry and frustrated with what's going on in Washington?"

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+141 # Kayjay 2011-07-28 18:34
Yes the American people are mad.... it's just no clear if they will do anything about it. If we maintain course, our ship is gonna sink. So we might as well kick those corrupt, corporate shill, congressional rats off the boat without life preservers. I'm sure we can find NEW reps whose slates are temporarily clean. Boehner, et all seem to forget that everyone is replaceable and everyone gets replaced....eve ntually.
 
 
+65 # NanFan 2011-07-29 03:53
Quoting Kayjay:
Yes the American people are mad.... it's just no clear if they will do anything about it. If we maintain course, our ship is gonna sink. So we might as well kick those corrupt, corporate shill, congressional rats off the boat without life preservers. I'm sure we can find NEW reps whose slates are temporarily clean. Boehner, et all seem to forget that everyone is replaceable and everyone gets replaced....eventually.


"A little rebellion now and then is a good thing." ~ Thomas Jefferson
 
 
+12 # dillard schroeder 2011-07-31 08:37
The welthy should pay fair share
 
 
+6 # whalegurl 2011-08-02 00:00
Ah come on. THey do pay their fair share: they make huge political donations, they hire lobbyists to write the bills that give him even bigger tax breaks. They are changing the methods by which people are voting all over the country so it will make it harder for poor, and students and anybody Democratic to actually vote. They are buying guard dogs that cost $230,000 each. Cause when people wake up they are gonna be pissed. It is not Red vs Blue states, it is a couple of thousand people against the rest of us.
 
 
+6 # Marvin H. Gladstone 2011-07-31 10:15
Quoting NanFan:
Quoting Kayjay:
Yes the American people are mad.... it's just no clear if they will do anything about it. If we maintain course, our ship is gonna sink. So we might as well kick those corrupt, corporate shill, congressional rats off the boat without life preservers. I'm sure we can find NEW reps whose slates are temporarily clean. Boehner, et all seem to forget that everyone is replaceable and everyone gets replaced....eventually.


"A little rebellion now and then is a good thing." ~ Thomas Jefferson



and:

"The tree of liberty need be watered with the blood of tyrants every twenty years" (or words to that effect)(also attributed to TJ.)
 
 
+18 # photojack53 2011-07-29 17:12
This just shows that these UNCONSCIONABLE Repugnican jerks are not acting in the best interests of their constituents OR the American people. They are intransigent in clinging to the Bush era tax cuts for their wealthiest donors and big corporate contributors. There's a chart that shows ALL of Obama's spending, including his needed bailout to keep the downward death spiraling economy the Repugnicans left us with, is dwarfed by just the loss of revenue from those idiotic tax cuts. America is not broke. Bush's spending was off the scale. It's the Repugnicans that are irresponsible and holding ALL Americans hostage over their dirty political games. In their misguided efforts to make Obama fail, they've prolonged the foreclosure crisis, kept unemployment high and irreparably ruined countless thousands of American families. VOTE THESE EVIL BUMS OUT OF OFFICE, NOW!
 
 
+4 # A. Myss 2011-07-31 22:10
"This just shows that these UNCONSCIONABLE Repugnican jerks are not acting in the best interests of their constituents OR the American people."

It is not just Republicans who are not acting in the best interests of their constituents or the American people. OUR PRESIDENT is right up there with the Republicans (flanked by other so-call Democrats). OBUSHMA is NOT looking out for HIS constituents. The fact hat he permitted (and he DID have a choice) Social Security, which is not responsible for one cent of the deficit, to be part of the deficit discussion and on the bargaining table should tell you everything you need to know about him. He has NOT - and he will NOT - fight for those 72% of Americans who believe the rich should not get richer off the backs of the poor whose ranks have soared in the past 3-4 years. He is a political coward and will NOT get my vote in 2012, even if it means I have to write in Dennis Kucinich's or Alan Grayson's name. Obama is a Democrat in name only, a DINO. AND WE DO WANT TO VOTE THESE EVIL BUMS OUT OF OFFICE, AND WE WILL DO SO WHEN THERE IS SOMEONE ELSE ON THE BALLOT BESIDES MR/MS JUST-PLAIN-EVIL vs MR/MS LESSER EVIL.
 
 
+15 # photojack53 2011-07-29 17:27
And how many countless thousands of Americans have had their finances DESTROYED while these EVIL Repugnicans play their dirty games? They prolonged the high unemployment, lengthened the foreclosure crisis and delayed Obama's recovery attempts irreparably hurting our citizens, myself included. Look up "swiftboating" and "astroturfing" on wikipedia to see the UNCONSCIONABLE acts this party routinely does to hurt this country's citizens and our economy.
VOTE THESE EVIL BUMS OUT OF OFFICE, NOW!
DON'T LET YOUR CHILDREN GROW UP TO BECOME REPUBLICANS!
THINK, OR OUR NATION WILL BE RUINED BY THESE HORRID IDIOTS!
 
 
+201 # lark3650 2011-07-28 19:01
It is obvious that Senator Bernie Sanders is one of the few senators left who genuinely puts a higher value on the life of a human being than he does on money. Thanks, Senator Sanders, for doing your job and standing up for what is right.
 
 
+57 # JOYC 2011-07-28 22:47
Hear, hear, Lark. I've decided to write in Sanders and Kucinich for pres.
 
 
+22 # rf 2011-07-29 05:29
Where are the progressives getting together and having press conferences, creating talking points, and threatening to filibuster unless they get what they want. Seems like the progressives are good at talk(or maybe not even) but the Republicans are good at getting things done, unfortunately.
 
 
+2 # Emma Stamas 2011-07-29 09:52
By voting for third party candidates, writing in a vote, or not voting at all is the way to allow Republicans to get into office and do exactly what they are now doing: grinding government to a halt and taking away everything that we have tried to do to become more civilized. If you don't vote for a possible winner your vote is NOT COUNTED and this is exactly how G.W. Bush "won" and started his massive spending spree on useless wars and huge tax cuts for the wealthiest people and biggest corporations in the US. Anyone who does not want SS or government supported Health care or free k-12 education roads can move to a third world country and enjoy complete freedom to be uncivilized.
 
 
+45 # Observer 47 2011-07-29 10:34
No, that is NOT how G.W. Bush "won." He lost the election in both 2000 and 2004. The Florida voting machine finagling and his father's hand-picked Supreme Court gave him the Presidency in 2000, even though Al Gore won the popular vote. In 2004, Kerry actually won Ohio, which would have given him the Presidency, but thanks to Ken Blackwell's stealing and switching of the vote, Bush magically came out on top. The elections were rigged; the outcomes had nothing to do with who voted for whom. And if people only vote for perceived "winners," we'll keep on getting the same kind of governement we have now!
 
 
-10 # charsjcca 2011-07-29 10:10
Neither of the person will dissolve the U S Senate and House of Representatives , which is necessary. We need a unicameral system.
 
 
+12 # lark3650 2011-07-29 18:31
I'm with you, Joyc! And why Wisconsin ever let Russ Finegold slip through their fingers is a mystery to me. Russ was another Senator who remembered that his job was to represent the American people. My dad always told me not to listen to what people say, watch what they do....and so far, most of these guys are doing a whole lot of NOTHING!!!
 
 
+34 # Rita Walpole Ague 2011-07-29 04:08
Oh do I, and so many of us who once considered ourselves Dems., agree with you in your praise of truthtelling hero, Sen. Bernie Sanders.

I, for one, with a renowned Democratic U.S. Pres. hanging in my family tree, Andrew Jackson, would jump for joy, and be filled with HOPE for real McCoy CHANGE (vs. what has so sadly turned out to be Oh Bomb Ah's continuation and even worsening of the Bushwhacking, anti-libertyand justiceforall enslavement agenda), should Sen. Sanders join with Rep. Kucinich in a run for Pres., V.P.. Of course, then there's the nightmare of getting all the votes vs. some of the votes counted honestly.

But, we can dream (and work and hope for restoration of democracy) can't we?
 
 
+15 # pbbrodie 2011-07-29 10:51
There are a lot of comments on here asking Mr. Sanders to challenge Obama in the presidential primaries. He doesn't HAVE to actually run. We can draft him. Go to your local Democratic precinct meetings and support Bernie Sanders as the Democratic candidate for President.
 
 
+102 # michelle 2011-07-28 19:30
Angry of course but more ominous is the feeling that the people can no longer make change through the political process. That doesn't leave many options besides pitchforks and torches.
 
 
+42 # Deborah 2011-07-29 04:17
Quoting michelle:
Angry of course but more ominous is the feeling that the people can no longer make change through the political process. That doesn't leave many options besides pitchforks and torches.

I agree. I used to feel that we had a voice. Now I just am not so sure about that.
 
 
+24 # Observer 47 2011-07-29 09:57
I'm QUITE sure that the answer is, "No, we don't have a voice!" And it has been that way for decades.
 
 
+30 # a prien 2011-07-29 09:01
Quoting michelle:
Angry of course but more ominous is the feeling that the people can no longer make change through the political process. That doesn't leave many options besides pitchforks and torches.


Though pitchforks and torches will get their attention.

The real crime in all this is it's the shock doctrine at work. They are using the so-called deficit to scare the American people to make sacrifices while the rich keep gorging themselves. The one point on which Rep. Ron Paul is absolutely right is that we could declare the $1.7 trillion held in govt securities by theFed as paid because they baought it with dollars they creted out of thin air. Why should the American people be paying the fed interest on their own money the Fed created? That would in one fell swoop be an enormous deficit reduction, and it wouldn't cost the public a dime.

Once the American people understand this, they should also throw out of office every politician who declares the people must sacrifice to repay these phony debts.

Prien
 
 
+14 # wrodwell 2011-07-29 10:08
Pitchforks and torches are so old fashioned. (Perhaps the contemporary equivalent would be flashlights and AK 47's.) The citizenry is now faced with a great dilemma: how do we combat and change a broken and utterly corrupt political system? The people still have the power to do so but they'd have to go further than they did in Wisconsin. Instead of waving signs and issuing catcalls, better to grab hold of all the miscreants in Congress, the Executive Branch and the Supreme Court - and throw the bums out. Such direct action would be far more effective than any election ever could be, especially the one in 2012, in which we're going to be asked to pick between the lesser of two evils. America deserves better.
 
 
+11 # Observer 47 2011-07-29 10:36
Or, as one of my friends says, "The lesser of two weevils."
 
 
+17 # hotepk 2011-07-29 10:22
I'm afraid only a revolution is going to get the change we need...the plutocracy is too firmly entrenched and the greed and contempt the wealthy have for the working people has become obscene...its time for heads to roll on Wall St. and in Washington DC.
 
 
+17 # Cassandra2011 2011-07-29 12:48
Quoting hotepk:
I'm afraid only a revolution is going to get the change we need...the plutocracy is too firmly entrenched and the greed and contempt the wealthy have for the working people has become obscene...its time for heads to roll on Wall St. and in Washington DC.

Yes, but I have a sneaking suspicion that is what the corporatist (=neo-fascist) powers that be want ... signs of violence that they can then invoke martial law against so they1 can take complete control ... beware
 
 
+4 # Pickwicky 2011-07-31 11:49
All this talk of revolution--do you talkers know what you're talking about? This isn't the 18th century when both sides faced off against muskets. The military might of the US--which would not be on the rebels side--doesn't carry muskets any longer. You think you're beleagued now--just give 'em excuse to start mowing you down.
 
 
+1 # Uppity Woman 2011-08-01 13:13
Quoting Pickwicky:
All this talk of revolution--do you talkers know what you're talking about? This isn't the 18th century when both sides faced off against muskets. The military might of the US--which would not be on the rebels side--doesn't carry muskets any longer. You think you're beleagued now--just give 'em excuse to start mowing you down.


We do not need to lose good people in violent confrontations. Our constitutions, state and federal, give us the precise tools we need to conduct a peaceful revolution whenever we are willing to get up off of our lazy butts and take charge of our government of, for, and by the people. We must begin by fixing our crooked election practices (touch screen voting, etc.), and then we have everything we need from there.

Be of good cheer my friends! We ARE on the correct side of history. Get active in your local elections as a first step. If thousands of us made a concerted effort to halt rigged elections, many practices would change, and quickly. Cynicism and despair can defeat us if we sit home wallowing in self pity. Get out and meet your local election officials!
 
 
0 # Pickwicky 2011-08-01 18:22
Quite so, Uppity Woman. The honest vote is where our power lies.
 
 
+45 # Hillarion 2011-07-28 21:52
Our politics has become anaphylactic.
Find out about anaphylactic shock to learn what the word means. In short, as I understand it, in refers to a terrible condition in which, instead of the body trying to stay alive, it tries to kill itself.
 
 
+85 # Still_Standing 2011-07-28 22:02
It's well past time to turn anger to action. I think everyone is waiting for a catalyst that will propel the repressed rage into open conflict. I have no doubt that trigger-point will come, but I think it's quite likely to occur before the 2012 election.

Once the American people realize the extent to which they've been sold into corporate servitude by the political class, the revolution will begin.
 
 
+22 # jrob 2011-07-29 05:52
Quoting Still_Standing:
It's well past time to turn anger to action. I think everyone is waiting for a catalyst that will propel the repressed rage into open conflict. I have no doubt that trigger-point will come, but I think it's quite likely to occur before the 2012 election.

Once the American people realize the extent to which they've been sold into corporate servitude by the political class, the revolution will begin.


I wish that was true, but sadly, there is little evidence that any significant portion of the public will bother themselves to do anything more than shrug and change the channel. Most people work all day trying to make ends meet, then chill in front of the big screen. They are more interested in reality television than in confronting reality, even if they have the critical-thinki ng skills to understand the need. Most appear not to, as evidenced by the fact that "we, the people," keep sending right-wing corporate shills to DC, where they gleefully conduct everything BUT the people's business.
 
 
+19 # Regina 2011-07-29 09:46
The corporate shills get "elected" under vote-counting and vote-preventing "arrangements" like machines that can't be checked and a loaded Supreme Court. Next comes the new requirement for photo-id's provided by dmv's with closing offices (WI). And the denial of voting rights to college students where they attend instead of reside. And more will undoubtedly be invented between now and Nov 2012.
 
 
+13 # KittatinyHawk 2011-07-29 10:11
There are three Marches getting coordinated right now...Pay attention
 
 
+9 # AthenaOwl 2011-07-29 12:40
WHERE? I'd love to know..... I pay a lot of attention, but it seems that for whatever reason, the word isn't getting out there.
 
 
+3 # michelle 2011-07-30 10:40
Those of us in the Sacramento area:
There is a rally on August 2, at noon. It will be held at the office of rep. Dan Lungren, 2339 Gold Meadow Way #220
Gold River, CA. Just show up. I think it will help if we post rallies as soon as we hear about them.
 
 
+57 # Lee Loe, Grandmother 2011-07-28 22:24
Sanders and all of us should push for the People's Budget of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. It is on Grijalva's website. Check it out!
 
 
-33 # XLIB 2011-07-28 22:35
"Among many other absurdities, we lose about $100 billion every year from companies and individuals who stash their wealth in tax havens in the Cayman Islands, Bermuda and other locations."

The first question that occurs to me is "Do they pay taxes on it before they stash it?"

The second question is "Can we please start with the Kennedys, Heinz-Kerrys and the Rockefellers if we are going to go after these stashes?"
 
 
+28 # rf 2011-07-29 05:31
That's why it won't happen...congre ss and the senate are full of rich people who won't go against their own interests.
 
 
+14 # MylesJ 2011-07-29 11:32
Nom they don't pay taxes and mostly they don't pay dividends so there is no tax there either. I got news for you the Kennedy, Kerrys and Rockfellers are now small change. The world's second most valuable company is Apple. The reason why is that they don't pay dividends and they don't repatriate their profits. Only Exxon tops them and it is getting close.
 
 
+49 # Paul Scott 2011-07-28 23:17
The only politician speaking up for the working class, of this nation, is Bernie Sanders. However, one politician out of 535 + the one in the Oval Office, means that Social Security and Medicare are going down for the ten count.

I salute you Bernie you are the voice that I fought for, in the vietnam war; a voice from the congress to the people and for the people. Think you sir.
 
 
+28 # Robert Uttaro 2011-07-29 08:37
I cannot agree more that Sen. Sanders deserves a salute...and much more. His is the only voice speaking up for the poor, the working class and the middle class. His is the only voice in the Senate that exposes the root of the problem in our dysfunctional government: corporate lobbyists owning the chambers and those who say they are our representatives really represent these powerful selfish interests. I propose that we urge Sen. Sanders to challenge President Obama in a primary. Quixotic as it may first appear, a primary challenge by Sen. Sanders will accomplish one thing for certain and possibly/likely a second. First, his voice will be heard; the media could not neglect it as he would be the only challenger in the Democratic Party. This is a certainty. But second, his challenge could very likely force Obama to move to the left (and back to his true constituency) where we could have true options and choices between the Republican strategy/polici es of war on the American people and a leader who will fight for us.
These Repugs have shown that they will do whatever they can to benefit the powerful and the wealthy. 80% of the nations wealth in the past couple decades going to the top 1% is an abomination. Now these same Repugs want to take the country over the cliff not for principle but simply to fulfill Limbaugh's wish: see Obama fail. Run, Bernie, run!
 
 
+15 # Thomas R. 2011-07-29 12:27
To Robert Uttaro:
I agree with you and your man--Mr. Sanders. But don't forget that in the lower house we also have a spokesman who has been our voice for ages, and who is so feared in his state by the powers that be of Ohio (Republicans, of course) that they ARE ELIMINATING HIS DISTRICT (fergawdsake) to remove him from office. Please don't say that Sen. Sanders is our ONLY voice. We have a voice in both Houses.
 
 
+16 # Robert Uttaro 2011-07-29 13:01
I believe you are referring to Dennis Kucinich (sp?) I've admired Kucinich for decades. My admiration for him goes back to his time as mayor of Cleveland when he stood up for the people and not let privatization of the municipal power. He was lambasted and excoriated but stood his ground and paid the price but ultimately proved to be right. His courage is unparalleled as is his steadfast heart. He speaks for the people, no contest! In my comments, I should have included in the Senate, the Gentlemen's club of wealthy elites. In that club, Sanders is in he wilderness and his voice is consistently alone. But like Rep. Kucinich and Ralph Nader, his voice may be unheard in that deaf chamber but it amplifies across this country. We can hand all of them a megaphone if we commit to supporting his campaign. Frankly, whether it is Sanders, Kucinich, Nader or any other real liberal, a determined commitment will force Obama to recognize just how far he drifted away from his base. His numbers are crumbling and he needs every vote. The beauty of it is that he can't buy our votes with his money when real liberals running for the party nomination are establishing the positions and policies we need and want. He would have to come back and fight for us or be sent home packing.
 
 
+12 # Observer 47 2011-07-29 15:00
Outstanding comment!! Dennis Kucinich is my representative- --for a little while yet---and he is an outstanding voice for every working American. He has no ties to any special interests, and he runs his campaigns on pennies. Which is why he was shut out of both his Presidential bids. Moreover, there was a local press black-out on all his doings during the 2004 and 2008 campaigns.
 
 
0 # A. Myss 2011-08-01 07:58
"...one politician out of 535 + the one in the Oval Office..." WAKE UP! There was NO ONE IN THE OVAL OFFICE who fought for the working class, the poor, the elderly and the sick.
 
 
+43 # m 2011-07-28 23:20
Bernie Sanders and THE AMERICAN PEOPLE'S ANGER goes unreported. Is kept out of focus HOW? WHY? For WHOSE BENEFIT?

Spend a bit of time looking at 'MEDIA' in America. Who owns it? Controls it and exploits it? Why? How did this come to be?

It needs to be brought back into the much more useful hundreds, if not thousands of media bits and pieces America used to get its information from just a mere 30 years ago immediately.

The quest for 'SMALLER GOVERNMENT' is a CON JOB of monumental proportions. The biggest in human history. And within that long, successful and tragic effort, media ownership rules were practically done away with.
Now in AMERICA, almost ALL MEDIA ENTERPRISES are owned by just a very few GLOBAL Corporate Conglomerates.
MASSIVE MEDIA EMPIRES WITH MASSIVE MEDIA POWERS OF SWAY-- of informing, misinforming, obsfucating, conning, stirring fear and anger and division-- the kind that breaks up the social and political commonality the vast majority of Americans actually share. Done through 'media-harping' us into numerous, smaller groups rallied around some particular 'STRAW MAN OBSESSION' framed and foisted upon us by design. Then We are DELIBERATELY RALLIED TO '''PITTED AGAINST''' EACH OTHER as if in an all or nothing struggle over- WHAT? While America DECLINES.
Thus, the majority is broken. The Wealthy Minority succeeds
 
 
+26 # rm 2011-07-29 05:56
m -- on anger. Remember how much coverage the Teabagger anger got last summer. Anger was the main theme the mass media picked up. Clearly the ginning up of anger helped a crew of radical republicans get elected to congress. Many of those are the cause of the present crisis. The anger was against Obama and his supposed "liberal" policies.

The mass media only reports the anger of the tiny minority of the right wing which supports the corporate agenda. The anger of the american people as a whole is really not relevant.
 
 
+23 # Mollie Steimer מאָלי 2011-07-28 23:27
American are angry but continue to support the two parties and their System. If Bernie were to run on a Socialist Party USA ticket, he might not get elected. In no state other than Vermont could a senator like Bernie get elected. His voice is badly needed but in the practical end is only talk.

So 72% supporting massive tax reform does not lead anywhere. The electoral system is stacked against the majority of ordinary people by its nature, snafu. Americans from many walks understand this. How can that be changed?
 
 
+33 # Jorge 2011-07-29 05:59
Bernie Sanders does not have to run as a Socialist. He represents the values of the Democratic Party that many of us grew up with, not this hollow self-serving corporatist Democratic Party that Obama represents. The media is hiding Bernie's message, instead we get Ryan, McCain, Boner, Kantor, etc. on the evening news (unless we look elsewhere for the news.. of course forget the right-wing propaganda network of Fox "News"). Senator Sanders, it is time to announce you are challenging Obama for the Dem nomination. It could encourage others to declare also-- Bobby Kennedy, Jr., Howard Dean, Alan Grayson, Russ Feingold, Al Franken, etc.
 
 
+17 # Robert H Pflanz 2011-07-29 07:16
Sanders with Kennedy would be a great combination and should draw a good press! We certainly need men who care and who are effective!

SANDERS/KENNEDY just might win
 
 
+10 # Lulie 2011-07-29 10:24
But Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat. He's an independent. I would think he could run as such. I certainly would work my ass off to get him elected.
 
 
+30 # Jeffrey Dunn 2011-07-28 23:29
Why isn't Bernie Sanders running for President??


SANDERS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
 
 
+7 # Capn Canard 2011-07-29 10:01
Yeah, I would vote for Sanders but the whole political system is cancerous. And of course money is the carcinogen, the pathogen and it is virulent and our Ponzi scheme economy is the system. What next? How about discard the diseased monetary system and make a resource based economy?
 
 
+11 # hotepk 2011-07-29 10:24
Most Americans are too dumbed-down to be able to have the intelligence to make the correct decision about who to vote for.
 
 
+32 # Helen 2011-07-28 23:29
Sanders would make a great president. He is the only one in Washington who knows how angry we are, and who has the guts to say so straight out.
 
 
+4 # Pickwicky 2011-07-31 11:58
Helen--presiden tial power is not equivalent to the power of kings or tyrants. Sanders as president would butt up against the same obstructionists as President Obama. Having "guts" to speak your mind isn't half so important as having clout.
 
 
+34 # Dave45 2011-07-28 23:35
The only reason Obama enjoys any sympathy whatsoever from anybody is that the Republican alternative, in reality, can only be seen as an alternative to sanity. Republican proposals are regularly so blatantly and obscenely biased toward the rich and the powerful that Obama's nauseating lust for bipartisanship seems tame by comparison. Sanders has put his finger on the basic problem, viz., we the people are simply not being represented by the elected officials who so proudly serve as the watercarriers for corporate America and who, of course, also now walk the "hollowed" (misspelling intentional) halls of the Capitol and White House.
 
 
+12 # Wolfchen 2011-07-28 23:50
Senator Bernie Sanders for President!!!! Yes, it can become a reality, and our sick nation needs him at the helm.

If for his own reasons he wishes not to contest Obama in 1012, Senator Sanders should make it clear that he will present himself as a candidate for the 2016 presidential election. He should make that intention clear to his supporters as early as practical, so that effective assistance can be organized for his campaign. Please contact him with your promises to give him support. He is a national treasure and a champion for the preservation of what is still honorable in our country that seems to be in the throws of convulsive discord.
 
 
+19 # Jorge 2011-07-29 06:03
2016 would be too late. The country would be in ruins by then and Bernie (and myself included) are not getting any younger. Senator Sanders, the time is now to challenge Obama and the right-wing thugs that have taken over government.
 
 
+3 # Observer 47 2011-07-29 10:13
I agree, Wolfchen, that a President Sanders would be a godsend for this country. I very much fear, though, that if he announced, his days would be numbered. Can you say, "JFK"?
 
 
+29 # angelfish 2011-07-28 23:57
ANGRY? Senator Sanders, you have no idea of the TRUE extent of MOST of America's RAGE over the Lunatic Fringe of the ReTHUGlican Party taking our ENTIRE Country Hostage to their Inane refusal to Tax the Wealthy! Rather than upholding their Pledge of Allegiance to Protect and Defend our Flag and Country, they Pledge Allegiance to Grover Norquist and his INSANE demand of NO Taxes For the Mega-Wealthy! WHO the Hell is Grover Norquist? HOW has he become so Powerful that the Entire Freshman Newbies in the House, salaam and kiss his A**? If their plan to destroy our Economy succeeds, they will OWN the Consequences of their actions! May our good God DAMN them ALL to Hell for their Rank Stupidity and Self-serving refusal to COMPROMISE! Are the Mega-Wealthy NOT American Citizens? WHY do they deserve a Free Ride? They've been getting one for over TEN (10) Long years! WHEN does John Q. Public EVER get a little help and support from the Government that it has bailed out, time and time and time again? So, Bernie, ANGRY doesn't begin to cover what THIS American is feeling. I'm thinking that these miscreants should be brought up on charges of Treason and Dereliction of duty with intent to overthrow the legally elected Presidency of Barak Obama! Never the less, I want to thank you Senator Sanders for ALL you do in your courageous fight on behalf of ALL Americans! God Bless and keep you safe!
 
 
+8 # Capn Canard 2011-07-29 10:10
ANGRY, well said angelfish. I concur and who the hell voted in the Tea-Baggers into office? And I am in Bachmann's district and it is UNFORGIVABLE that she actually got elected! The ignorance is WIDESPREAD here. I fear that things will get very, very ugly next year.
 
 
+10 # Patch 2011-07-29 00:00
Our representatives and President are not listening to we the people. The quandary is how do we get out of this mess? As long as our elections are set up as they are--vast amounts of money needed to run a campaign and a two party system--we may keep sinking. Google Americans Elect. They have some interesting ideas and you can get involved.
 
 
+5 # my2cents 2011-07-29 11:32
Good idea but don't Google. Boycott them. They don't pay their fair share in taxes (Although good at what they do).
 
 
+10 # Frances Miller 2011-07-29 00:08
Well said. Speak louder and longer.
 
 
+19 # X Dane 2011-07-29 00:28
We sure are A N G R Y, make that MAD AS HELL. We need to start a progressive people's revolt. It must be bigger than the Tbags, for so many people are being hurt. This latest debacle should make it clear to ALL, that the republicans are dead -set on destroying the country to gain power.
WE CAN'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.
 
 
+13 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-07-29 06:39
Quoting X Dane:
We sure are A N G R Y, make that MAD AS HELL. We need to start a progressive people's revolt. It must be bigger than the Tbags, for so many people are being hurt. This latest debacle should make it clear to ALL, that the republicans are dead -set on destroying the country to gain power.
WE CAN'T LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.


And the timing should be perfect to make our move, X Dane! The Rethugs are soon to be exposed and terribly weakened as a result of the sinking of the "S.S. Murdoch Media"; I have just learned that a new scandal is being investigated by Scotland Yard. The major investigations should hit the American shores around late November, and last well into 2012! With their baby, Faux News, up in smoke, they lose their major spin machine. Rethugs will be helpless to stop these investigations on Capitol Hill because the trails, many of them, will lead right to their doorsteps, RESULTING IN AN UNQUENCHABLE INFERNO OF SCANDAL & BLANTANT TREASON, EXPOSED!!!! BURN BABY, BURN!!!!
 
 
+5 # X Dane 2011-07-29 21:42
True American Patriot. Right on you made my ..no it's not day anymore.....wha tever. You are right, I wasn't thinking about that, they (Foux) will soon be in deep do do. They richly deserve it. It is sickening what they have been doing in England and certainly here. I am certain that they are greatly responsible for so much of the poisenous dialog in the country. They spread hatred and invite people on their programs who are hateful. I have several friends, who are warm, generous, kind people, and then my heart sink....they tell me that they watch Foux. They are members of a club I belong to. One of them said that she felt so bad about what was happening in the country.

So I agreed with her and said, have you heard what is happening in Michigan? they are installing commissionaries in smaller cities an abolishing city councils and schoolboards. The commissioner is solely in charge. She was really in shock, for she DOES believe in true democracy. Of course Foux does not mention ANY of THAT. I think it may have started her thinking....a little. I try to open some people's eyes. But I don't want to be a pariah, so I tread carefully, but I do speak up.
 
 
+8 # my2cents 2011-07-29 11:35
Please don't make this a "progressive" fight. We need the people in the middle and they, at this point, are mad as hell - I know more than a few.
 
 
+18 # Willy Loots 2011-07-29 00:50
Thank you Mister Sanders, I'm glad to hear a real democrat. I hope that you are not the only one!!
 
 
+25 # Terry 2011-07-29 01:02
It is maddening that the Republican propaganda machine cranks out the ridiculous and unfounded premise that Social Security and Medicare contribute to the national debt and must be slashed, while the wealthy get to enjoy historic increases in their financial status and their lowest tax rates in 50 years. The Republican mantra of holding the financial stability of the nation hostage to the debt ceiling, while decimating all people programs, fanatically protecting their wealthy benefactors, and stirring the Teabaggers into an unreasoning and destructive frenzy is demagoguery at it's worst. Seeing Obama and Democratic leaders cave in and go along with it is nauseating. There is no earthly reason Social Security and Medicare are taking hits in this drama, and tax cuts are protected. Not one dime of the deficit came from Social Security and Medicare, and not one dime of deficit reduction has come from the wealthy recipients of society's greatest financial blessings. The times, they grow ever stranger, and democracy is in danger, from the excesses of the far Right.
 
 
+16 # Riley1 2011-07-29 01:26
Bernie Sanders is one rare politician that looks at any given situation with reason and logic . He values truth above expediency, and places human well being above corporate interests unlike his peers. He is there to do the job he was elected to do. Just look at his voting record. It is a given that all politicians should be eyed cynically. Bernie Sanders is a exception to that rule. He truly tries to serve the interests of the people.We need to look for his like when we elect people to represent us . Boy did we screw up with the current incumbent in the Whitehouse. Seems we did with all the rest too. Only Eisenhower and Truman stand above them all in our time. Politicians surely can fool the people all the time. The awful thing is we buy the snake oil they offer us. What does that say about us as the people?
 
 
+7 # Observer 47 2011-07-29 10:17
I hope you mean the general "we," Riley. Some of us have known the score---and have marched in the streets to protest it---for many years.
 
 
+8 # Riley1 2011-07-29 16:13
Quoting Riley1:
Bernie Sanders is one rare politician that looks at any given situation with reason and logic . He values truth above expediency, and places human well being above corporate interests unlike his peers. He is there to do the job he was elected to do. Just look at his voting record. It is a given that all politicians should be eyed cynically. Bernie Sanders is a exception to that rule. He truly tries to serve the interests of the people.We need to look for his like when we elect people to represent us . Boy did we screw up with the current incumbent in the Whitehouse. Seems we did with all the rest too. Only Eisenhower and Truman stand above them all in our time. Politicians surely can fool the people all the time. The awful thing is we buy the snake oil they offer us. What does that say about us as the people?


I thought the general "we" was obvious
All credit to those who are front line activists against the deplorable activities of the mad, bad ,and dangerous to know. Especially the Koch brothers who raise the true spector of evil enveloping the country using the curroupt forces within the fourth estate to promote by stealth its damming and evil message . It's good to know you are aware of the score as you put it. I hope the score ends in Activists 1 Koch bros 0 I will reserve judgement.Glory Glory Hallelujah . Keep marching on.
 
 
+14 # hms 2011-07-29 02:33
Bernie: Fantastic presentation--h owever, what I think is totally missing is the asking of the WHY questions! Now if you would write out this wonderful piece and complete it by separating each point you make, then placing gaps between each point and then PROVIDE THE "WHY" BEHIND THE POINT! If they can state their bullshit program, then it can certainly be loudly and rationally subjected to questioning, right? The Republicans have managed to bullshit and spin their side of things and almost NEVER does anyone ask the important question of WHY? For example, the top income folk don't pay but a diddlie bit of tax, right? BUT WHY? WHY? WHY? Why is this so? How does this state of things exist without the public having a clear answer to that question? The public most certainly deserves answers to such questions. Ok, now please go back and stick in those questions into those gaps, then go on the floor of Congress and nail the SOB's with each of those questions and DEMAND answers on behalf of us citizens! You are the ONE person there that could pull this off. By the way, we LOVE you out here in the real world!
 
 
+14 # brenda 2011-07-29 02:34
The rich and their "paid and bought government officials" seem to think they can fool the rest of the nation. So too Obama if he bows to their agenda. They have something else coming to them if these non-tax the rich measures pass. I think the majority will remember in November when we vote.
 
 
+18 # rm 2011-07-29 05:21
America is being looted by its ruling elites. The more money they steal, the more money they have to corrupt government officials. The corruption of state governments since the ruling elite heavily bought in last year is really horrendous. This is all out class warfare and we -- the middle class -- are losing. We have no power to fight back. They steal through institutions like the FED or the Congress and we have no power over these.

What a joke. When it is all gone, the looter class will leave.
 
 
+12 # tswhiskers 2011-07-29 06:18
If the American people are so angry they have themselves to blame and no one else. The 2010 election was a disaster because the American public has a serious long-term memory problem. I understand that people are raising families and living their lives but until more people pay more attention to Washington politics and start voting intelligently instead of instinctively we are going to have a very messy system in which Tea Partiers and Reps can continue to screw up the country. Too many people get annoyed with the current situation, whatever it may be, and decide that maybe things will improve if the other party is in power. That used to work in the 50's, the 60's and the 70's when we had 2 parties with no great ideological differences. Now we have 2 very different parties and it REALLY matters who wins an election. Until America gets better more thoughtful voters she will have lousy government.
 
 
+4 # Observer 47 2011-07-29 10:22
I think the situation is exactly the opposite of your scenario, tswhiskers. Decades ago, the parties had quite different platforms, but were willing to compromise. Today, the plutocracy owns everything, and in terms of actual results, you can't tell the parties apart. To paraphrase what someone brilliantly said in this forum yesterday, "The Republicans want to turn the country over to their corporate masters. The Democrats want us to feel good about it."
 
 
+5 # tswhiskers 2011-07-29 19:35
Observer 47, we may disagree on the politics of the 50's, 60's and 70's, but the fact remains that few Americans take the time to educate themselves on issues and think about them. The popularity of the Tea Party is surely proof that the public and Tea Party politicians are so prone to kneejerk reactions and opinions that this country is truly at this moment at the mercy of the tyranny of ignorance. This debt ceiling crisis has never happened before and we are about to be plunged into an unthinkable economic situation thanks to kneejerk amateur politicians and their followers. I say again, America needs better, more thoughtful voters. I think if voters had really thought about the consequences of their votes in 2010, our economy would not be threatened in this way today.
 
 
+16 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-07-29 06:26
MR. PRESIDENT, NO MORE COMPROMISES WITH THESE EVIL REPUBLIBAGGER BASTARDS! I have watched this saga unfold, starting with the Reagan-Bush & Bush-Quayle! All of the "government-is- too-big" whiners were happy to see the Reagan & Bush presidencies because of MASSIVE DEREGULATION; ESPECIALLY ON WALL STREET! The Criminal Corporate Cartels delighted in this because they can commit CRIMES WITH FEW OR NO CONSEQUENCES! The FREE MARKET they talk about so much means "free from criminal prosecution." THAT IS WHY the bankers were NOT PROSECUTED for creating this financial crisis! There are still FIVE (count them) Supremes left on the SCOTUS from the Reagan, Bush, & Bush II eras. WE THE PEOPLE, have PAID and CONTINUE TO PAY for SS! In the words of our late Senator Ted Kennedy, during an impassioned speech over deregulation proceedings, HOW MUCH IS ENOUGH; WHEN WILL IT BE ENOUGH? Apparently, Senator, the "ravenous feeding frenzy" continues; much to our chagrin.
 
 
+9 # M 2011-07-29 06:39
No matter what happens, business as usual vis a vis fossil fuels and fiat currency, is over. Now its all just a game of who is going to get thrown at the dire wolves chasing the sled.
 
 
+17 # stonecutter 2011-07-29 06:53
There's enough anger and near-hysteria in these comments to re-prosecute WWII, but not enough progressive action anywhere to beat the Cubans on Grenada back in '83.

Where's a march(es) on Washington? Where's demonstrations in NY, LA, Chicago? Do the Netroots really believe they can turn this ship around by circle-jerking each other on Facebook or Twitter? That may have worked in Iran or Cairo, but it doesn't appear to work a damn here.

Sanders is eloquent, but his words in the Senate echo chamber are just that: mere words, which in this disposable, ADD culture, last one news cycle, if that, and then evaporate into cyberland. What is critically required is CONCERTED ACTION.

Without action, similar to what was seen in the Viet Nam anti-war movement, all over this country, all the words in the Oxford Dictionary won't move a grain of sand one millimeter. Is Bernie willing to put himself on the line, the way the working people of Wisconsin did? How about Feingold, and Nader, and Weiner?

I'll believe it when I see it.
 
 
+4 # my2cents 2011-07-29 11:52
Ralph Nader has put himself on the line multiple times. I voted for him, as did approx 3% of NH, and Bush won NH by approximately 3%. Still, I would do it again. I was wondering why he was being forgotten here. We have to give third party candidates a reason to run, ie, a reasonable chance of getting elected. Nader tried but he didn't have a chance in hell b/c we didn't give him one. I don't want Saunders to run as a dem. I think the people are ready for a real independent to release us once and for all from our completely broken 2-party system. Fling open the doors!
 
 
+13 # Janet F 2011-07-29 07:30
All this anger is worthwhile, but are all the people writing on this blog also writing, calling, faxing and visiting your congresspeople? Writing letters to newspapers, calling radio shows? Making as much noise as is possible? This is one step here, but we need all we can do!
 
 
+11 # michelle 2011-07-29 09:55
Can't speak for the others here but I have. I attended a moveon rally at my 'deer in the headlights' representative, a republican. There were six hundred of these gatherings across the country but alas no coverage. I don't think we know what is going on in terms of protest. I attended the support Wisconsin rally in Sacto. There were a couple thousand supporters and less than 60 (I counted) teabaggers. The news that night on the ABC affiliate stated an equal numbers of supporters and tea party were in attendance. We need coverage. I have family in Wi and know we are getting very little of what is going on there. I hope everyone writing attended the Rebuilding the Dream house gatherings last weekend. If we rely on the 4th estate, we will never have any news. Perhaps a new verse to Blown in the Wind is in order. Where have all the journalists gone, long time passing, where have all the journalists gone long time ago,Where have all the journalist gone, Gone to corporate everyone. When will we ever learn. When will we ever learn.
 
 
+9 # SOF 2011-07-29 12:50
Corporate news will not cover protest.
This link to 2nd of 2 part article on lack of coverage, reports some actions: http://readersupportednews.org/off-site-opinion-section/71-71/6756-coulda-woulda-shoulda-coverage-of-antiwar-protests
Most likely protests are already happening in your community.
MoveOn.org is one place to connect with local groups.
Know that this is not the 60s when we had clear Rights and due process under law. The Patriot Act and additions have taken those rights. People are understandably afraid to protest. Do it anyway. Do it with a paper bag over your face that says "I don't trust the government"
Get everyone you know to sign peitions on line -ridiculously easy, and CALL YOUR REPS AND SENATORS -Even when hopeless -like my senators McCain and Kyle..... My inquiries affirm that their offices will talley pro/con calls on an issue.
We have to be very LOUD to begin to counter the roar from lobbyists, liars and those who deliberately obfiscate the obvious and prey on the uneducated, misinformed, poor, and angry people who are most gullible.
 
 
+7 # stonecutter 2011-07-30 06:09
You make some critical points, Michelle. When was the last time you saw Paul Krugman or Amy Goodman or Chris Hedges, or Robert Scheer or Glenn Greenwald or Greg Palast or Katrina vanden Heuvel on ANY mainstream news or interview show? Once in a blue moon, as window dressing.

On MSNBC, you've got Chris Hayes and David Corn and Joan Walsh in an endless loop, and frankly, they wouldn't be my choices to speak for progressives. On the networks, NADA...these people rarely if ever show up. "Meet the Press", "Face the Nation", "This Week", "The Situation Room"...they're all like closed circuit TV for the power elite, which means BORING, conservative, little emotion, few hard questions, and the specter of False Equivalency on every issue, no matter how outrageous the extreme right position. David Gregory sometimes "acts" tough, but swallows whatever swill is sloshed around at his table. Amanpour is rendered toothless. Schieffer is very old, terminally affable.

MSNBC has been reduced to being a finger in the dyke against the tide of Tea Party mania sweeping over the ill-informed, ignorant, FOX-besotted electorate like the tidal wave in the last scenes of "Deep Impact".

Unless and until the media begin to COVER progressive action again, like they did a bit of the Wisconsin protests (far less than actually warranted coverage), we're cooked.
 
 
+4 # michelle 2011-07-30 11:14
There is some coverage of things on the People's News, aka youtube. There are acts of resistance against walmart. Try Youtube: 'Walmart Respect DC flashmob'. I found some coverage on Wisconsin on youtube as well. Resistance is happening but we are mostly unaware.
 
 
+4 # Observer 47 2011-07-29 12:07
Yes, over and over and over, for all the good any of that does.
 
 
+4 # X Dane 2011-07-29 21:59
tswhiskers, you are so right about people not informing themselves enough, but the belief that the Tbag movement is a grassroots movement is bunk. It is very much orchestrated by the Koch brothers.
They poured tons of money into pushing them along and paid for signs busses and more. You MUST have seen that disgusting creep Dick (he sure is)Armery at their rallies, spewing hatred and ugliness. No it is certainly a corporate movement, masquarading as grass root.

What is so incredible, is that the majority of those people are going to be hurt BIG TIME, if it all falls apart.
I think when people are worried and angry, as many of us are. Some act irrationally, as a scorpion stinging itsef, others thank heaven have brains, and try to think about what to do.
 
 
+4 # X Dane 2011-07-29 22:12
I write my senators and conresswoman almost daily and sign the petitions before significant votes come up.
And when I write I am not MEEK. I let them have it BIG TIME....but politely.
No profanities. I am also going to join a movement I think it is Van Jonson? who started it. OK michelle just mentioned it I had not seen it till I started writing. Rebuilding the Dream
 
 
+7 # jke-julian 2011-07-29 07:43
Regular shared sacrifices by citizens, especially those who can afford it the most to keep everything running, who are not too old, sick, disabled to work, lost their jobs or their savings because of the marketplace which is given towards the services used for the common good of local municipalities, commonly shared services of the states and commonly shared services of the nation.
 
 
+8 # Elliot Hoffman 2011-07-29 08:09
Anger and frustration continues to build in America - huge let-down by Obama and Dems, we know the Repubs are awful and simply carry water for Koch Bros et al. We marched by the millions against Iraq war, and accomplished nothing - we felt good for a day. WE know that our public policy-making apparatus is owned by major corporate and financial interests, we know we're being screwed by both Dems and Repubs, and even Obama. Anger over continued wars, our economy trashed by the wealthy and they just take our treasury for themselves,"inv esting" has virtually disappeared being replaced by "spending", our values as Americans and world citizens completely trashed by ruthless and very greedy elite, and we are angry. We know many in the T party - especially those in Congress are utterly mad, insane, and we just --- get angry.

OK - now what? Elliot H
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2011-07-29 10:14
There have been marches all over this country since, not going was everyone's fault. There are three upcoming, I will get more details but AFL is going, SEIOU, there is Pollution March happening, One slated from NYC to Washington in October
Seems this is all you people read...there are going to be significant voices heard. Hopefully deafening and they will not be texting on here,. I have marched four times this year Anyone else?
 
 
-2 # Pickwicky 2011-07-31 12:05
Kittatiny--you are "texting on here." Odd for someone so intent on insulting us. They also serve who only sit and text. Plus, many of us read a great deal, financially support our favorite causes, and even march. Your arrogance is annoying.
 
 
+9 # Capn Canard 2011-07-29 10:35
Quoting Elliot Hoffman:
Anger and frustration continues to build in America -
OK - now what? Elliot H


What indeed? And despite all good intentions I believe that this will get ugly. I would like to avoid all that but I doubt that a Dem lead congress would be much of an improvement... Money/Wealth have a strangle hold on the media and SCOTUS is a 5 to 4 cluster F@*K controlled bought and paid for and the power of wealth and SCOTUS needs to be challenged to enforce their own decisions, let the people do as they see fit? Difficult...
 
 
+10 # reiverpacific 2011-07-29 09:43
I agree with those of you who want Sanders to run for Pres, w/ Kucinich or a resurrected Russ Feingold BUT d'you think that the real "kingmakers" behind beltway doings would allow this to happen, or even allow these good men to survive a campaign (for which Obama is already out there raising a targeted $1 Bn)?
Look at what happened to the post-WW11 people who tried to buck the status-quo (no need to repeat names)!
"qualification for the job?" -Pshaw!
I actually think that "XLIB" has a certain point, except for the expression "Start with". True, these families have great wealth and Kerry was a member off the same Skull-and-Bones Club at Yale as his idiot opponent but their policies were at least a tad progressive and the Kennedys have paid the price of trying to change things many times over.
Otherwise, where the Hell d'you start to flush out the "Power of the Purse", an expression used since Charles 11's time?
The buying of votes and increased barriers placed in the way of the poorer voting public -as in Wisconsin recently but remember Florida '00 and '04? And it goes on.
Also these damn lobbyists, formerly known as "Burrowers" and their huge influence peddling industry.
This is how it's done and only when change comes from the street, can it happen.
 
 
+10 # Robert Uttaro 2011-07-29 10:14
Quoting reiverpacific:
... BUT d'you think that the real "kingmakers" behind beltway doings would allow this to happen, or even allow these good men to survive a campaign (for which Obama is already out there raising a targeted $1 Bn)?


The kingmakers and titans control the process, that is true. And until there is a constitutional amendment making all public elections publicly funded they will have their hands on the levers of power. However, the influence of money can be circumvented and as you recognize from the street. Many lessons can be learned from the Arab Spring but one poignant one that crosses all boundaries is the power of the internet and social media to speak truth to power. To get to my point, at the end of the day, the currency that still matters in elections is votes. A sanders run can be managed effectively and cheaply by millions of us pledging our votes to Sanders and organizing virtually. The street is no longer pavement but virtual. A movement of the people across this land determined to uphold the beliefs of Sen. Sanders will make the Titans tremble and a billion dollars will not be worth the paper it is pledged on.
 
 
+9 # psychomom 2011-07-29 10:03
A write-in campaign for Bernie Sanders in the primary sounds better and better!
 
 
+8 # humanmancalvin 2011-07-29 10:25
Thank you Mr. Sanders for being the sole voice of, for, & by the people. I admit I am not smart enough to figure a way of having the voices of reason heard. I marched in many Anti-Vietnam & Civil Rights events in the 60's & the millions of our loud angry voices were heard around the world. We need a new, maybe somewhat calmer Abbie Hoffman to lead he way back to the streets in protest of the robbing of our country. Where are you? We the people need you.
 
 
+5 # giraffee2012 2011-07-29 11:07
As soon as they cut one cent from Social Security - those still paying INTO it -- should DECLINE and then the government loses their "Cash Cow" - bc the government has pilfered $ from the SS Tax.

The loop holes are insane and the TP who are pushing to "not touch" taxes are so stupid bc when we go - they too will go - DOWN DOWN DOWN.

I'm angry and very nervous (as are others)

NOW _ Get registered and get a mail-in ballot for 2012 NOW. Help anyone without an ID to do this NOW -- You've been warned by the 3 states who have passed bills for ID and threatened to "move the polling places" etc.

They will steal our right to vote if you sit home angry --

Next - bug your Congress people to get the "person" hood decision "repealed" ---- it is UNCONSTITUTIONA L - AND ONLY USED to buy our elections.

VOTE -- PLEASE get everyone out to vote
 
 
+7 # Observer 47 2011-07-29 12:23
As the deduction for Social Security is automatic for people who are not self-employed, how would one go about NOT paying into it? I don't think many employers would accept such a request.

As for voting, to repeat from my post above, voting is worthless as long as one secretary of state in a pivotal state can literally change the outcome of the vote. If Blackwell had not manipulated the results in Ohio in 2004, Kerry would have been President. It's naive to think that the mere casting of ballots is going to accomplish anything, when the villains own the process.
 
 
+4 # MylesJ 2011-07-29 11:35
You all need to read Robert Dahl on the Tyranny of the Minority. It is the way American actually works.
 
 
+3 # Observer 47 2011-07-29 12:32
Would you please recommend a title? I see that Dahl is a prolific author, and I'd like to read the one that specifically speaks to the tyranny of the minority.
 
 
+6 # shortonfaith 2011-07-29 12:00
I know Kennedy's speach was about the minimum wage but it works well for all things Republican. "When does the greed stop"; http://crooksandliars.com/2007/01/26/ted-kennedy-lashes-out-against-the-gops-opposition-to-increasing-the-minimum-wage#comment-29

What is about that part of the country that brings out the humanity in a person? I'm starting to be ashamed of my vote for Obama. It seems the only change we get is for the worse. And, because Republicans won't do it Obama brings the subjects into the conversations. He doesn't go after anything except when it shines a bad light on a good program. Torture of the American people, along with those in the rest of the world is OK. It's only a matter of time & Obama will be dropping bombs on the US also. Using our own tax dollars by the trillions, to kill each other. Or maybe the slow death like allowing BP to kill jobs by posioning the fish, food, air & water at the same time. That way later they can raise the price of food, air & water while they take away our source of income.

I'll give to Sanders anytime.
 
 
+6 # giraffee2012 2011-07-29 12:21
http://www.readersupportednews.org/news-section2/318-66/6798-six-extreme-right-wing-attacks-by-alec

Here's the latest URL on the Koch brothers -- who are funding legislature -- TP and those like Rep King and Gov Walker "to destroy" USA.

Bernie: If you decide to run for President - keep getting on the news == I see you on MSNBC but you have to get on FAUX so those "idiots" (I mean Americans) can see what they are voting for by supporting TP (etc)

You are a shinning light in a dismal array of Congressional people.

Register, mail-in ballots -- NOW. VOTE 2012 --- no matter what -- vote out TP GOP -- and any Dem (even a blue dog) is better than the TP/GOP who are going to take the USA back to the "middle ages" (and beyond)
 
 
+4 # LeeBlack 2011-07-29 12:37
Anger is too mild a word for what I feel. My feeling is more like rage. I can be disappointed with the centrist actions of Obama but it is the Republicans I will blame.
 
 
+5 # bobby t. 2011-07-29 12:57
i love bernie, but a president does not save us from slavery. and that is the right word. a master/slave mentality is always burning between the lines.
the last time a sitting democrat got something done, was when lbj got the civil rights bills passed. he had a majority in both houses big time. everyone is looking for a saviour, but god is not going to come to the white house. and if he did, they would crusify him.
 
 
+10 # donnazor 2011-07-29 13:20
If only there were more Bernie-like pols. Unfortunately, there are too few willing to stand up for what are supposed to be Democratic principles. Both plans on the table now are Republican wins. I will NEVER cast another vote for Obama. He is either an utter coward or he simply lied to all to win office. Either way, he lost me.
 
 
+7 # Toni Sewall-Mueller 2011-07-29 15:35
I love you Bernie Sanders. You speak the TRUTH and you speak it out loud. Very refreshing in these times of lies, self-centeredne ss, me me me, I I I attitude. I'm a WE THE PEOPLE & I'm waiting for Congress to put us first - you work for US.
 
 
+7 # Paul Bookidis 2011-07-29 15:56
Mr. Sanders, are you up to throwing your hat in the ring for President in 2012?
You would have my vote.
 
 
+5 # Canuckon the sidelin 2011-07-29 17:02
I really think you have waited to long already. Consider the "camps" behind chain link fences in every state. Those are NOT disaster camps! They will become prisons for the persons and families of govt. dissenters! Jesse Ventura is afraid for the people of America because the "Hitler" effect is alive and well in the Republican party. The old, infirm, and mentally defective are "rocks" hanging from their necks.
 
 
+4 # captaincrunch 2011-07-29 22:27
Increasing Overwhelming Debt = Divorce...
As the debt increases the closer we move towards a civil war ...
 
 
+3 # FLeFlore 2011-07-30 11:20
As others have said, describing how we got here is helpful; getting out of the mess is critical. I agree the focus now needs to be: What can be done to restore the USA to democracy? Two new books are encouraging, with suggested actions for individuals to improve our world based on taking responsibility for our own personal, spiritual and community well-being and growth : "How to Be Compassionate: A Handbook for Creating Inner Peace and a Happier World," by His Holiness the Dalai Lama and "Twelve Steps Toward Political Revelation," by Walter Mosley. Both were published in 2011 and are complementary in their messages.
 
 
+8 # Don Thomann 2011-07-31 12:04
The American People are not yet angry enough. We still live well above the standards of the actively angry peoples. "Circus and Bread" is still silencing American's over due anger.
 
 
0 # chizables 2011-08-05 18:00
Well, I love Bernie Sanders and all he says but there is no hope really. My vote doesn't count anymore. I live in a red state (Tennessee). My state goes Republican every time and so, of course, our electoral votes go to the Republican candidate. Unless we start deciding elections by popular vote, why should I vote? My state has turned redder than ever with the tea party lies and Obama hate. Democratic presidential candidates never come here to campaign. Why should they bother? Only the battleground states' that can go either way count anymore. So it is no use. We southern liberals may as well hang it up as far as voting. And that goes for our local and state politics as well. It's a joke and hopeless.
 
 
0 # Linda77 2011-08-06 15:31
This will be known as a disastrous time in our history. It reminds me of the wealthy at the table wearing laurel wreaths on their heads and drinking the milk of mothers of poor and hungry children. These men are world eaters, beginning here. No more damage to the environment. No more taking from the poor and middle class. No more special treatment for the rich. No more secret meetings!!! We are truly, strongly angry. I want sanity restored. No more making world enemies and breaking our own economy as well as those of other places. It is time for change. It is time to stop them. Let's recall them and see how many silly Republicans pretend to be Democrats like they just did in Wisconsin. Childish plots and pranks and plans to be king of the mountain.
 
 
0 # Herbert A.Shapiro 2011-08-19 21:23
The only way we can evef get this mess squared away is with the only power we still have, and that is our Ballots!
 

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