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Kucinich writes: "The administration claims a chemical weapon was used. The UN inspectors are still completing their independent evaluation. Who provided the physiological samples of sarin gas on which your evaluation is based?"

Former Congressman Dennis Kucinich takes a look at Syria. (photo: Getty Images)
Former Congressman Dennis Kucinich takes a look at Syria. (photo: Getty Images)

Top 10 Unproven Claims for War Against Syria

By Dennis Kucinich, Reader Supported News

05 September 13


n the lead-up to the Iraq War, I researched, wrote and circulated a document to members of Congress which explored unanswered questions and refuted President Bush's claim for a cause for war. The document detailed how there was no proof Iraq was connected to 9/11 or tied to al Qaeda's role in 9/11, that Iraq neither had WMDs nor was it a threat to the U.S., lacking intention and capability to attack. Unfortunately, not enough members of Congress performed due diligence before they approved the war.

Here are some key questions which President Obama has yet to answer in the call for congressional approval for war against Syria. This article is a call for independent thinking and congressional oversight, which rises above partisan considerations.

The questions the Obama administration needs to answer before Congress can even consider voting on Syria:

Claim #1. The administration claims a chemical weapon was used.

The UN inspectors are still completing their independent evaluation.

Who provided the physiological samples of sarin gas on which your evaluation is based? Were any other non-weaponized chemical agents discovered or sampled?

Who from the United States was responsible for the chain of custody?

Where was the laboratory analysis conducted?

Were U.S. officials present during the analysis of the samples? Does your sample show military grade or lower grade sarin gas?

Can you verify that your sample matches the exact composition of the alleged Syrian government composition?

Further reading: Brown Moses blog; McClatchy News report; Global Research report.

Claim #2: The administration claims the opposition has not used chemical weapons.

Which opposition?

Are you speaking of a specific group, or all groups working in Syria to overthrow President Assad and his government?

Has your administration independently and categorically dismissed the reports of rebel use of chemical weapons which have come from such disparate sources as Russia, the United Nations, and the Turkish state newspaper?

Have you investigated the rumors that the Saudis may have supplied the rebels with chemicals that could be weaponized?

Has the administration considered the ramifications of inadvertently supporting al Qaeda-affiliated Syrian rebels?

Was any intelligence received in the last year by the U.S. government indicating that sarin gas was brought into Syria by rebel factions, with or without the help of a foreign government or intelligence agents?

Further reading: Global Research report; Wall Street Journal article; Reuters story; Zaman story (in Turkish -- see Google translate from Turkish to English); Atlantic Sentinel story; AP story

Claim #3: The administration claims chemical weapons were used because the regime's conventional weapons were insufficient

Who is responsible for the conjecture that the reason chemical weapons were used against the Damascus suburbs is that Assad's conventional weapons were insufficient to secure "large portions of Damascus"?

Claim #4: The administration claims to have intelligence relating to the mixing of chemical weapons by regime elements

Who saw the chemical weapons being mixed from August 18th on?

Was any warning afforded to the Syria opposition and if not, why not?

If, on August 21st a "regime element" was preparing for a chemical weapons attack, has an assessment been made which could definitively determine whether such preparation (using gas masks) was for purpose of defense, and not offense?

Further reading: McClatchy report; Brown Moses blog

Claim #5: The administration claims intelligence that Assad's brother ordered the attack

What is the type of and source of intelligence which alleges that Assad's brother personally ordered the attack?

Who made the determination that Assad's brother ordered the attack, based on which intelligence, from what source?

Further reading: here

Claim #6: The administration claims poison gas was released in a rocket attack

Who was tracking the rocket and the artillery attack which preceded the poison gas release?

Did these events occur simultaneously or consecutively?

Could these events, the rocket launches and the release of poison gas, have been conflated?

Based upon the evidence, is it possible that a rocket attack by the Syrian government was aimed at rebels stationed among civilians and a chemical weapons attack was launched by rebels against the civilian population an hour and a half later?

Is it possible that chemical weapons were released by the rebels -- unintentionally?

Explain the 90-minute time interval between the rocket launch and chemical weapon attacks.

Has forensic evidence been gathered at the scene of the attack which would confirm the use of rockets to deliver the gas?

If there was a rocket launch would you supply evidence of wounds from the rockets impact and explosion?

What is the source of the government's analysis?

If the rockets were being tracked via "geospatial intelligence," what were the geospatial coordinates of the launching sites and termination locations?

Further reading: report

Claim #7: The administration claims 1,429 people died in the attack

Secretary Kerry claimed 1,429 deaths, including 426 children. From whom did that number first originate?

Further reading: McClatchy report

Claim #8: The administration has made repeated references to videos and photos of the attack as a basis for military action against Syria

When and where were the videos taken of the aftermath of the poison gas attack?

Further reading: report

Claim #9: The administration claims a key intercept proves the Assad regime's complicity in the chemical weapons attack

Will you release the original transcripts in the language in which it was recorded as well as the translations relied upon to determine the nature of the conversation allegedly intercepted?

What is the source of this transcript? What was the exact time of the intercept? Was it a U.S. intercept or supplied from a non-U.S. source?

Have you determined the transcripts' authenticity? Have you considered that the transcripts could have been doctored or fake?

Was the "senior official," whose communications were intercepted, a member of Assad's government?

How was he "familiar" with the offensive? Through a surprised acknowledgement that such an attack had taken place? Or through actual coordination of said attack? Release the transcripts!

Was he an intelligence asset of the U.S., or our allies? In what manner had he "confirmed" chemical weapons were used by the regime?

Who made the assessment that his intercepted communications were a confirmation of the use of chemical weapons by the regime on August 21st?

What is the source of information that the Syrian chemical weapons personnel were "directed to cease operations"?

Is this the same source who witnessed regime officials mixing the chemicals?

Does the transcript indicate whether the operations they were "directed to cease" were related to ceasing conventional or chemical attacks?

Will you release the transcripts and identify sources of this claim?

Do you have transcripts, eyewitness accounts or electronic intercepts of communications between Syrian commanders or other regime officials which link the CW attack directly to President Assad?

Who are the intelligence officials who made the assessment -- are they U.S. intelligence officials or did the initial analysis come from a non-U.S. source?

Further reading: report and AP story; Washington Post editorial

Claim #10: The administration claims that sustained shelling occurred after the chemical weapons attack in order to cover up the traces of the attack

Please release all intelligence and military assessments as to the reason for the sustained shelling, which is reported to have occurred after the chemical weapons attack.

Who made the determination that was this intended to cover up a chemical weapon attack? Or was it to counterattack those who released chemicals?

How does shelling make the residue of sarin gas disappear?

Further reading: here

The American people have a right to a full release and vetting of all facts before their elected representatives are asked to make a decision of great consequence for America, Syria and the world. Congress must be provided answers prior to the vote, in open hearings, not in closed sessions where information can be manipulated in the service of war. We've been there before. It's called Iraq. your social media marketing partner


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+81 # fredboy 2013-09-05 11:22
Surprised the NYT hasn't brought back Judith Miller to tout make believe WMDs...
+8 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-09-07 23:40
Money made on wars by the military/indust rial complex is directly and not inversely proportional to all the bullshit it takes to get a war started. Anyone remember "The Gulf Of Tonkin Incident" to start one of the most inhumane wars in history? (not that any war is humane) Never happened, but the Viet Nam war did.
+48 # cmp 2013-09-05 11:22
AP sources: Intelligence on weapons no 'slam dunk'
Aug 29, 9:36 PM EDT

..."questions remaining about who actually controls some of Syria's chemical weapons stores and doubts about whether Assad himself ordered the strike, U.S. intelligence officials say.."

.."A report by the Office of the Director for National Intelligence outlining that evidence against Syria includes a few key caveats - including acknowledging that the U.S. intelligence community no longer has the certainty it did six months ago of where the regime's chemical weapons are stored, nor does it have proof Assad ordered chemical weapons use, according to two intelligence officials and two more U.S. officials."

.."All the officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the intelligence report publicly.."

.."Intelligence officials say they could not pinpoint the exact locations of Assad's supplies of chemical weapons, and Assad could have moved them in recent days as the U.S. rhetoric increased.."

.."Over the past six months, with shifting front lines.. and sketchy satellite and human intelligence coming out of Syria, U.S. and allied spies have lost track of who controls some of the country's chemical weapons supplies, according to the two intelligence officials and two other U.S. officials.."

+3 # Jiovanna 2013-09-07 18:43
They don't need her since the mainstream has Martha Raddatz for that role:)
0 # cmp 2013-09-07 20:45
Very well said!

I don't think that I have watched anything ABC for 25 years. (Along, with many others..) lol.
+121 # mari 2013-09-05 11:28
Wow! Dennis you should be the head of the CIA and FBI. You are right, extraordinary research needs to be done to expose all parties responsible for this horrible crime.
+46 # Activista 2013-09-05 19:40
Dennis should be next president - I am sick of these wars/lies/propa ganda For Israel, from Israel, by Israel ..
-11 # fdawei 2013-09-06 00:15
Quoting Activista:
Dennis should be next president - I am sick of these wars/lies/propaganda For Israel, from Israel, by Israel ..

Activista... I support you on your first premise that Dennis should be the next president.
But your overt continuous racist comments, which you continue to vomit out at any given moment, are highly inappropriate.
+40 # mjc 2013-09-06 08:57
It isn't racist to be against Israel's designs and attempts to control our foreign policy, fdawei, nor is it anti-Semitic. But that is the charge that hard-line Likud, Ultraconservati ves use those terms to shut up any criticism of Israel or its present leaders.
-21 # kalpal 2013-09-06 10:58
I am not a likudnik, far from it, but I make the same charge that hatred of jews is what motivates many like activista.

Israel is the only location on the face of the earth where jews will not be disenfranchised or expelled.

Those who hate Jews desire to see them once again kicked out and made more vulnerable to the whims of those who have been taught to hate them.
+29 # hutchr 2013-09-06 21:17
But, Kalpal, not all those who hate Israel hate Jews. It is the kicking out of the Palestinians from their lands to make room for settlements that enfuriates many observers and angers so many Palestinians
+1 # brux 2013-09-07 20:47
That's not the whole story of what happened in the Middle East, and just like the uninformed on the right who believe Iraq was involved in 911, there are the uninformed on the left who cluster around this issue of Israel and their peculiar understanding of the history of that region.
+38 # Activista 2013-09-06 12:14
I am NOT a racist or anti semite - but the fact that Israel/Netanyah u is leading war against Iran (without ANY evidence of A- Bomb, while possessing arsenal of 200 nuclear weapons). Israel has the ability to deliver nuclear weapons by intermediate-ra nge ballistic missile, intercontinenta l ballistic missile, aircraft, and submarine-launc hed cruise missile (submarines made in Germany). These facts are NEVER mentioned in USA mass media.
-8 # brux 2013-09-07 20:53
Israel has never said in the UN in front of the world that it wants to destroy Iran ... or anywhere else. Iran and their religious rulers have consistently and openly declared their intention to destroy Israel .. and they support Palestinian groups who openly declare this as well, also who attack with snipers, rockets and terror.

Iran has a long history of persecuting Jews, including many they kicked out after confiscating their land and property - mirroring the Islamic world in general that abuses religious minorities.

Israel has had a nuclear deterrent for the purposed of offsetting the power of the neighboring Arab states who have already attacked them several times since they declared statehood. The first attack was within an hour of their declaration of statehood, and attacks and terror that have gone global have followed since.

None of you say is the reality of this conflict, and what keeps this conflict going and makes it impossible for Israel and Palestinians to get peace is the continued lying and breeding of hate by lies and racism.
0 # Saty13 2013-09-08 02:47
Well said, brux.

I am neither Jewish nor Palestinian (that is, I don't have a dog in this fight) but from my observations over many years it seems that the world applies a bizarre and unfair double-standard when judging Israel.

At the same time, I'm puzzled at how otherwise humanitarian and law-abiding friends and colleagues of mine can willful ignore so much bad behavior (to put it mildly) of the Palestinians.
+4 # johntinker 2013-09-07 05:32
fdawei, I don't have earlier experience of "Activista", but I fail to see how his accusations against Israel here are "racist".
-4 # brux 2013-09-07 20:46
fdawei, I am with you on that, I am sickened by the unrelenting hate I see daily on these boards from so called Liberals about how they hate Israel and think Israel controls the US or whatever. Apparently a substantial and active portion of the electorate on the left is just rabid and insane on this issue, and of course we already know there are about the same proportion of wackos on the right to match them, but these people often end up grabbing so much attention and provoking so much pointless argument it really degrade whatever little bit of working democracy we have left.
-29 # kalpal 2013-09-06 10:54
We are sick of your hatred of Jews and their sole homeland.
+31 # Activista 2013-09-06 12:18
I do not hate Israel or Jews - but do not agree with Israel government war propaganda (and bombing of Syria) against Syria and Iran. These are war crimes ...
-4 # fishmother 2013-09-08 13:58
Activista, I am not a Zionist, but there's so much more involved here than you, or for that matter Dennis Kucinich, who once actually spoke accurately for the left but now seems to need attention rather than move a vision forward, seem unable to acknowledge. This is a very complicated situation and deserves more than a glib toss out.
+22 # mjc 2013-09-06 08:51
One can only HOPE that those kinds of questions WERE asked...but don't have much faith in that. Gas was supposedly released last year and nothing ever came of any questions about the who, when, where, what or why that happened. Kucinich is a brilliant investigator it seems, and here's hoping he will seek higher office.
+45 # cmp 2013-09-05 11:34

.."The U.S. has devoted only a few hundred operatives, between intelligence officers and soldiers, to the Syrian mission, with CIA and Pentagon resources already stretched by the counterterroris m missions in Africa and the Arabian Peninsula, as well as the continuing missions in Afghanistan and Pakistan, officials said.

The quest for added intelligence to bolster the White House's case for a strike against Assad's military infrastructure was the issue that delayed the release of the U.S. intelligence community's report, which had been expected Tuesday.

The uncertainty calls into question the statements by Kerry and Vice President Joe Biden.

"We know that the Syrian regime maintains custody of these chemical weapons," Kerry said. "We know that the Syrian regime has the capacity to do this with rockets. We know that the regime has been determined to clear the opposition from those very places where the attacks took place."

The CIA, the Pentagon and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence declined to comment, and the White House did not respond to requests for comment."

AP sources: Intelligence on weapons no 'slam dunk'
Aug 29, 9:36 PM EDT

Associated Press writers Bradley Klapper, Julie Pace and Lara Jakes contributed to this report.
+37 # grandma lynn 2013-09-05 22:48
The Toronto Star noted today that even the casualties in the Syria gas attack are not known.
- USA says with confidence that 1429 died.
- France said 281 died, then upped that to a nice round 1500 died.
- Britain says that 350 died.
- Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says 502 died.
- United Revolutionary Medical Office says 1302 died.
So when Kerry says that the USA knows for certain, that cannot be true, and we should
not start attacking another nation because we are certain that we know what happened.

When Diane Feinstein says she wants the public to see the video of victims writhing - does she not get it that sorry though that sight will be, we are not knee-jerking our way into another war. She should not emotionally manipulate us or think that's okay to try. War is war. War = more destruction. Destruction is not a help.
+7 # cmp 2013-09-07 11:44
I believe that the 'Syrian Observatory for Human Rights' is an NGO that is based in England and it is quite possibly "Western Funded." I have come across a report that says the State Dept has been backing several Anti Assad media outlets for about 3 years. As if the CIA wasn't enough in these circumstances..

Here is the White House Release:

And, here is a pretty good critique:

Thanks & Keep up the great work!
+7 # Saty13 2013-09-08 02:56
When Diane Feinstein called Edward Snowden a traitor, she became, in my mind, a leading pariah of the U.S. plutocracy.

I no longer trust a word she says.
+57 # Douglas Jack 2013-09-05 11:39
Thank You Dennis. This is a good summary of questions which can be posed. There are many more which should be asked about US, Canadian, NATO, Israeli, Saudi manufacture, arming, supply, financing of foreign mercenaries (over 50% of supposed rebel forces), delivery of Sarin Nerve Gas & the media's False-Flag cover-up. We've a case of 'Intellectual-C owardess, for nations whose economies are committed to war, but don't know how to engage supposed enemies in equal-time, recorded & published formal dialogues.
Here's a compilation of sources for those who believe in looking at both-sides & truly want peace.
There are Dialectic ('both-sided') equal-time, recorded & published dialogue approaches which must become de rigeur in human relations as all humanity understood during our 100s of 1000s of years of 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generatin g') peace & prosperity.
+59 # jwb110 2013-09-05 11:58
Has this list been sent to the President?
+20 # patw 2013-09-05 23:42
Congress needs to see this list at least as much as the President and Secretary of State do. And we cannot assume that our Congressmen/wom en or Senators will read this, or any other articles which are important to understanding this situation. But we can increase the odds they'll see them (right after another day of the administration' s hearings) if we send them copied into emails to our elected officials. What will happen is up to us - will a critical mass of people contact our Representatives to tell them to oppose military intervention? It is up to us, and we might get this one right, only if enough people call and write to our elected officials. Have you called your member of Congress with your opinion regarding how you want them to vote, and why?
+5 # Saty13 2013-09-08 02:59
It only takes a few minutes to let your Congressman or Congresswoman know how you feel about bombing Syria. Send 'em an email...
+73 # Califa 2013-09-05 11:59
Well apparently the Feds do not know who used the chemical weapons. So let's blame whoever we want and go to war. That's been done before, same garbage different century.

Gee, "Remember the Maine"? It's still unclear who actually blew up the USS Maine in February 1898. Of course the US blamed Spain so we could go to war for sugar and such. But hey, Cuban school children are taught to this day that the US blew up it's own ship. It also could have been the Cuban insurgents. Or how about the Germans or English who wanted the Spanish out of Cuba? Then there is spontanous combustion of the weapons inside the ship--that happened to a few ships at that time.

The US to this day has not proven who was guilty for the destruction of the USS Maine. So, in that light, it looks like a simular situation in Syria. The US does not know who used the chemical weapons but will blame whoever they want so we can have another "Splendid little war."

Go to hell you lying bastards.
+10 # Doubter 2013-09-05 16:25
I remember reading that the ship's boiler blew up.
+48 # tedrey 2013-09-05 12:31
Thank you, Dennis. Good show!.
-43 # Larry 2013-09-05 12:54
We may never know the answers to all of these legitimate questions. But one responsibility of leadership is to make decisions based upon what is known, rather than what is unknown. Obama's allegations are not tainted by the evil hidden agenda that spawned Bush's fraudulent WMD fiasco in Iraq. Obama is not the craven, corrupt Bush; Obama's father wasn't targeted for assasination by Syria's leader, nor is Obama, unlike Bush and Cheney, fronting for Halliburton, the corporate war profiteer. In other words, Obama is not looking for a phony pretense to engage Syria in military conflict.

I predict that when the UN inspectors finish their work, they will confirm Obama's "claims," and the US will stand at a moral crossroads with undisputable evidence of Assad & Company's chemical mass murder. All of which begs the question: What then?
+56 # larrypayne 2013-09-05 14:56
Obama definitely is fronting for the war profiteers. The moral crossroads the U.S. is facing is whether we the people will buy into the same lies foisted on us before the Iraq war. Do we want to go down that road again? Look at Iraq today. Did we accomplish anything there except getting hundreds of thousands killed and more are still being killed in the civil war resulting from U.S. actions.
+31 # grandma lynn 2013-09-05 22:36
The amount of money spent on positioning war ships for a missile attack, etc. should be redirected to the neighboring countries who are accepting Syria's millions of refugees, some of these countries already burdened with other Middle Eastern war refugees. What the heck are we doing spending money (into the pockets of war profiteers) on added destruction when constructive use could be made of the same money? If the US wants a "good face" let us not destroy, but let us give refugee aid.
+14 # kalpal 2013-09-06 11:00
Iraq came to be because a known village idiot from Texas was appointed to the office of President.
-16 # pagrad 2013-09-06 03:45
Those who do not remember the lessons of the past are condemned to repeat it.

Should you not stand up to an aggressor, the bully will only be emboldened. Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain of Great Britain in 1938 is known for his foreign policy of appeasement with Adolf Hitler.

Where was the U.S. in 1939, when the German government gassed its own people, -for six years, and America did nothing to stop the gassing? The Second World War was fought to stop the German and Japanese aggression against other nations and did nothing to stop the gassing of innocent civilians.

Tyranny must always be challenged! –Whether it is a tyrant or a school bully. The sooner it is arrested, the less costly it will be. Doing nothing only encourages the offender to be more tyrannical.
+26 # tedrey 2013-09-06 14:33
There are many, many people in the world who would agree with you, but would also add that one of the greatest aggressors in the world, both bullying and tyrannical, is the United States of America. Do you want to encourage them to resist?
+1 # brux 2013-09-07 20:59
It's our jobs, assuming you are American, to force our country to do right.

I think the pressure we have put on Islamic states that have despicably unjust regimes, do not share the wealth of their countries equally and who have the effect of corrupting other countries they do business with, is a good thing.

I hope we keep stirring the anthill and seeing how they regroup until we and the people of those countries can live with the result. Living under a country ruled by religion should be something every citizen of this planet is free from, and if the US can help - then we should.

On the other hand, you have a strong point that the US is not merely an altruistic helper ... in our actions and institutions are embedded greedy corporations and political and military minions that are not necessarily driven by spreading equality and democracy.

I think Kucinich has a lot of good points here, and for all actions of this sort the world, and the people of the US, need to ask and get answers to these hard questions.
+1 # RobertMStahl 2013-09-06 07:35
Hillary Mann Leverett!

Try 50:15 into this video.
+4 # Douglas Jack 2013-09-06 19:28
Robert, This is a US 'experts' debate based in a fantasy issue about a supposed nuclear armed Iran. One Raymond Tanter describes US state position wildly afraid in Israel's shadow & Hillary Mann Leverett trying to describe the Iranian position. This kind of 'fantasy' debate is not helpful but typical of US & 'Israel' media who keep us locked into fantasy issues. Why does US media rarely give voice to Iranian speakers?

A real debate would bring Iranians & American / Israeli opponents together speaking about the real things which concern them. it's important for us to hear from our imagined enemies, because hearing people speak, imprints personality & humanizes our perceived enemies. Hilary Mann L. is good but we are kept at a distance from those who we've been taught to hate precisely because of this distance. I live & work with many Americans, Iranians & Israelis so they are all normal for me, but Raymond T. is typically someone who has never had easy cultural experiences with his perceived enemies. Raymond T. as well is an institutional player who has built his career upon fulfilling the 'hates' ('1984' George Orwell) of his employers.

Equal-time recorded & published dialogues should be a cultural practice by all individuals in our families, multihome buildings, communities, cities, regions, nations & internationally . The problem is our institutionaliz ation.
+2 # Jiovanna 2013-09-07 18:51
"Obama is not looking for a phony pretense to engage Syria in military conflict." Wow, what planet do you live on? Obama's words reflect a person who has moved in the opposite direction from his pre-presidentia l life. He's no longer e credible. All men can be bought, said Sir Walter Raleigh, and Obama isn't an exception to this view.
+41 # DLT888 2013-09-05 13:00
I would LOVE to see Kucinich back there in Congress --- and to have Obama below him seated in the middle in front of him. And to see Kucinich in his questioning-mod e with his glasses halfway down his nose --- and to make them SWEAT in the hot seat as he asks these very reasonable questions. No one should get away with war without being able to pass through this kind of questioning! Obama is already a war criminal -- I guess he figures he has the title and will be pardoned as he pardoned bush. Well, the future is yet to be written, Obama, and you may be tried as a war criminal before your life is over.
+25 # mdhome 2013-09-05 19:01
The world court didn't pardon Bush and he is in danger of being arrested as a war criminal by any country that has the balls!
+58 # America 2013-09-05 13:12
We need more like Dennis who is not swallowing the propaganda being served up by this regime. Nice analysis and great questions.
+58 # bb1choix 2013-09-05 13:26
Dennis, you never fail to be a voice of reason.
+33 # Billsy 2013-09-05 13:26
Might we and our govt. agree on something less controversial such as providing humanitarian aid to the many syrian refugees entering Turkey and Lebanon? There is so much pressure, understandably, to act in response to Assad's brutal crackdown, but military responses, particularly without support from the league of arab nations or the EU would not be appropriate on the part of the u.s. That still leaves the option of a humanitarian response.
+14 # Activista 2013-09-06 00:01
..There is so much pressure, understandably, to act in response to Assad's brutal crackdown??
Billsy - PLEASE read and understand why MAJORITY of Syria people SUPPORT ASSAD:
“before this conflict started we were happy and had a good life (there is free education, free healthcare, subsidies for fuel, in Syria ,) and now we live in poverty”. Her daughter and son-in-law (a pharmacist and engineer) standing on a cement floor in a Palestinian refugee camp, with not even a mattress, told us that this violence had erupted to everyone surprise’s and spread so quickly they were all still in shock, but when well armed, foreign fighters came to Homs, they took over their homes, raped their women, and killed young males who refused to join their ranks, so the people fled in terror. ..continued
much more in this link ..
+28 # MidwesTom 2013-09-05 13:27
Dennis, they are just looking for an excuse for war to remove Assad, because he would not let them lay a pipeline across northern Syria so Europe could gas by bypassing Russia. They stopped rebels headed fir Syria in Turkey earlier this week carrying canisters of Sarin.
+3 # grandma lynn 2013-09-05 22:37
Too many "they" and "them" here to get the message clearly.
+25 # Anonymot 2013-09-05 13:28
Well done, Sir.
You won't get answers, because they don't have them. Our Intelligence has an IQ of about 65. They have consistently erred since the Bay Of Pigs, despite their monumental budget. America is being made into a pariah by the last two administrations lack of foeign policy and lack of understanding of anyone unlike an American WASP.
-55 # leffwrite 2013-09-05 14:00
Hard to forget that Dennis K. was strongly opposed to the military campaign to oust Khadafi. He lost me then. Can't listen to him now. Nicholas Kristof in today's NYT makes a strong case that is worth thinking about.
+15 # grandma lynn 2013-09-05 22:39
I like what Ron Paul says on this, though not bringing up that we ourselves spewed DU in Iraq, especially Baghdad during "Shock and Awe":

"I agree that any chemical attack, particularly one that kills civilians, is horrible and horrendous. All deaths in war and violence are terrible and should be condemned. But why are a few hundred killed by chemical attack any worse or more deserving of US bombs than the 100,000 already killed in the conflict? Why do these few hundred allegedly killed by Assad count any more than the estimated 1,000 Christians in Syria killed by US allies on the other side? Why is it any worse to be killed by poison gas than to have your head chopped off by the US allied radical Islamists, as has happened to a number of Christian priests and bishops in Syria?

“For that matter, why are the few hundred civilians killed in Syria by a chemical weapon any worse than the 2000-3000 who have been killed by Obama's drone strikes in Pakistan? Does it really make a difference whether a civilian is killed by poison gas or by drone missile or dull knife?"
-14 # kalpal 2013-09-06 11:06
Can it be that international law prohibits use of CWs. I know that it is ignored by the USA. It was Rumsfeld who aided Saddam in obtaining CWs during the Iraq Iran war just as Cheney persauded Iran to look at buying a nuclear reactor.

WWI persuaded the nations involved to be adamantly opposed to CWs. Ignoring such prohibitions invites frequent repetition of murderous behavior.

I am not opposed to Arabs killing each other. They have only contributed oil to modern society and nothing much else that I can discern.
+13 # Activista 2013-09-06 12:30
"I am not opposed to Arabs killing each other. They have only contributed oil to modern society and nothing much else that I can discern."
Kalpal - your overt continuous racist comments, which you continue to vomit out at any given moment, are highly inappropriate - this is a racism - hate
Try to search for cradle of civilization - Iran/Persia, Mesopotamia is a name for the area of the Tigris–Euphrate s river system, corresponding to modern-day Iraq, the northeastern section of Syria ..
0 # mjc 2013-09-09 10:02
During the so-called Dark Ages in European culture the Arabs held on to the understandings and knowledge that the Greeks and Romans had developed, the dome architecture, for example. Europeans did not re-learn this technique until the latter Middle Ages. Math and science were either at a standstill in the West while the Arabs were advancing concepts in those disciplines. Your last paragraph bothers me a bit, too. Semitic peoples lived in those regions for thousands of years, called by different names. It was the cradle of civilization AS WE KNOW IT: cities, agriculture, sailing, etcetera, came from region to you and I.
+32 # Vardoz 2013-09-05 14:37
As it was pointed out on the MSNBC on the
Lawrence O'Donnell show, what happens if Assad goes back to using conventional weapons assuming he had used chemical weapons? Assad killed many more with conventional weapons. What would we do then? Also if this is in fact a proxy war with Russia and the US claims that Iran and others are taking part then could this be a backdoor plan to attack Iran. Anyway we cut it, this is not going to be a simple affair. All this moralistic chatter is sickening when we gave Saddam chemical weapons, tortured and are still torturing people in black sites and we killed untold innocent women, children and babies in Iraq and Afghanistan. There is always a blank check for the military at the expense of our economy and US. What happened to the big concern over the debt ceiling?
+37 # Futilitarian 2013-09-05 14:38
Dennis is always so intelligent and coherent in his thought and rationale. So much so, that it always takes me a while to figure out exactly what he's saying. So, if I've got this right, he's saying that our government lacks credibility, our intelligence apparatus lacks credibility and our elected representatives lack credibility. Aside from lacking credibility and having a huge deficit in the ability to think critically, they are also routinely prone to outright lying in order to forward extremely misguided and corrupt agendas. Did I interpret that correctly?
-30 # geraldom 2013-09-05 14:48
I'm pretty much pissed off at Dennis Kucinich who walked away from being a congressman. He claimed he could be more effective outside of congress, but he was so wrong. In a situation like this, he would have been much more effective and much more of an annoyance to the Obama administration if he would have stayed a congressman. Even better, he could have been even more effective and much more of a nuisance to Obama as a United States senator.
+40 # Art947 2013-09-05 18:21
What are you talking about. Kucinich was gerrymandered out of Congress when his district was combined with another progressives district and he lost in the primary.
+12 # geraldom 2013-09-05 20:45
Quoting Art947:
What are you talking about. Kucinich was gerrymandered out of Congress when his district was combined with another progressives district and he lost in the primary.

I am fully aware of the fact that he was gerrymandered out of office, but there were possible alternatives for him to run as a congressman elsewhere and he chose not to do it. I would like to see him run for the Senate in 2014 perhaps as an independent.
+16 # mdhome 2013-09-05 19:07
It was a big disappointment to me not to see Dennis in the senate or house, but he has been speaking out in ways he probably would not if in either.
+7 # geraldom 2013-09-05 20:57
Quoting mdhome:
It was a big disappointment to me not to see Dennis in the senate or house, but he has been speaking out in ways he probably would not if in either.

mdhome, these days speaking out on issues doesn't seem to have much of an affect anymore. Our politicians, both Republicans and Democrats seem to have their blinders on as well as having their ears stuffed with wax.

As a United States Senator, I believe that Kucinich would have done what the Republicans do so well in the Senate and the Democrats fail to do, filibuster. It only seems to take one Senator in the U.S. Senate to establish a filibuster and they don't even have to get up on the podium and talk. All they have to do is simply threaten a filibuster and it completely stops the machinery. Kucinich would have been able to block those Bills that needed to be blocked like the NDAA for example.
+17 # grandma lynn 2013-09-05 22:41
It is a huge disappointment to me that Obama didn't put Dennis at the head of something important. I think it shows what a sketchy character Obama has, inherently. He is intimidated by Dennis' strong character, so doesn't want him competitively on the scene.
-32 # grenier 2013-09-05 15:08
Of course it is good to do a complete vetting of the circumstances, but why are we only focusing on the chemical warfare, which is horrible, but besides that, innocent Syrian people have been killed daily for over two years fom shelling as well.
I don't think the ones shelling every day are the Rebels , killing thier own.
I think we know already that they are Assad's army.
So doesn't that clear things up a little?
That doesnt seem to require vetting and councils and debate.

So even if chemicals are never used again- how many years must Assad's army keep shelling the population before we can say that it is genocide?

Ask yourself that question, Mr. Kucinich.
+5 # Activista 2013-09-06 00:11
Syria ..."foreign fighters were from many countries like Libyans, Saudis, Tunisians, Chechens, Afghans, Pakistanis, Emiratis, Lebanese, Jordanians, Turkish, Europeans, Australian, and these gangs are financed and trained by foreign governments. They attach suicide vests around peoples’ bodies and threaten to explode them if they don’t do what they are told. One refugee woman asked me ‘when can we go home’?
+25 # RightForAReason 2013-09-05 15:33
"Assad's conventional weapons were insufficient to secure "large portions of Damascus"?"

Wait a minute... Are these the same conventional weapons that killed over 100,000 people? Why use gas to kill 1,400 and chap the world off when bullets and bombs have worked so well for over 100,000? That would really be stupid. Assad is certainly ruthless, but I don't think he is THAT stupid.

Let Allah sort this out.
-11 # mdhome 2013-09-05 19:10
Maybe, maybe not, hard to see what is going on in his or anyone's mind.
+17 # jkilccdc 2013-09-05 18:01
Nice job Dennis. Voted for you in primary in 2008. Truth be known we are back to cold war thinking; "keep Russia out of the mid east at all costs". If Russia gets in tight with Syria this will neutralize US power in the area and force Israel to begin to act like a civilized nation for a change.
I'm hoping for increased Russian influence to off set our imperialism and force Israel to quit trying to push us into carrying out the "Plan for the New American Century" - f--king conservatives!
+11 # ishmael 2013-09-05 18:08
No one really knows what is going on in Syria, who is in charge of the opposition, how many opposition factions there are, what source(s) used chemical weapons .... The fog of pre- war ..... If it is so horrible why then aren't Syria's immediate neihbors in that distinct region taking definitive action ...

Etc ....
+20 # ishmael 2013-09-05 18:17
Hypocritical for the US, a known supporter of the use of chemical weapons, to want to use them as a pretext for attack.
+12 # LML 2013-09-06 03:53
Not to mention the US's use of depleted uranium
+7 # hattie12KY 2013-09-05 19:14
See this video interview with Mairead Maguire, Nobel Peace Laureate. She has talked with Syrian peace advocates and questions the source of the chemicals:^HJ^xdm017^YY^us&n=77fc71da&ss=sub&st=hp&ptb=F588A459-CFDA-4A7C-991B-F203C33E493D&tpr=sbt&si=pconverter&ts=1378226933857
+3 # geraldom 2013-09-05 21:16
Things seem to be getting very interesting in the Mediterranean off the coast of Syria. Reference the following two articles:

Perhaps the Russians and the Chinese are actually growing some huevos.
+20 # Marxian 2013-09-06 02:01
What disgusting hypocrisy! This is the phony showing of outrage by the U.S. at alleged violations of humanitarianism by the use of chemical weapons. The same country that attacked and dumped tons and tons of agent orange on a small country and poured more bombs on it than were used in all of WW II, all in a war of aggression based on a lie. The same imperialistic country that supplied and trained the Iraq military in the use of poison gas munitions and encouraged Iraq to use them against the Kurds and Iranian army. The hired foreign thugs sent into Syria are not able to defeat the military of that country, so now we get the propaganda about chemical warfare. As Joe Goebbels told Adolf when he thought that the lie was to big to be believed by the people, "If the lie is big enough and repeated enough times, it will be believed." It seems to work in these times for Amerika also. Propaganda and damn lies folks. Give me a break...
+1 # RobertMStahl 2013-09-06 07:33
For all too long, we have not been able to get AIDS in perspective, equally as damning, equally as mental. The mindset is no different, but what have we done to understand it is not complicated? Viruses that don't grow, reproduce, or have any signature material? How do we fall for this BS from BO and other stench producing physicists? GUT-CP is so much more. Try gathering up these odors in the form of evidence that have been around for decades. Eleni Papadopulos-Ele opulos says most of what needs to be said, but she keeps the best of company. Present here, there are these full documentaries:
1. Deconstructing the Myth of AIDS by Gary Null
2. House of Numbers
3. The Emperor's New Virus?

If we knew where Indira Singh was, maybe we could follow the Taliban/al Qaeda activity through the Russian/Afghani stan conflict leading the the Russian/Georgia n conflict, to 911 and money laundering, to the security state, to al Nusra in Syria. There are protection rackets that sell protection like Warren Buffet buys Bank of America stock, who own SWAT and use it against us via the surveillance state. Know what Paul Craig Roberts says, Hillary Mann Leverett, Barrett Brown, William Binney. Expose the Goliath for its assault on David, man versus machine, claiming the be the opposite.
+11 # Rick Mason 2013-09-06 08:47
This whole thing is a ness we don't need to be involved in. Let the U.N. handle this and stop any missile attacks by the U.S., period! All this will do is kill more innocent Syrian civilians and antagonize foreign and domestic terror groups. We need a lot more men and women like Dennis Kusinich in Washington.
+11 # jenkinsh 2013-09-06 10:02
Finally, someone is probing the evidence that the Assad regime did this thing. Finally, someone is calling for an authentic investigation of all serious claims rather than dismissing any claim that runs counter to the administration` s account, as "mirky," or "conspiratorial ." Finally someone is clear that showing videos of victims writhing in pain says nothing about who launched the attack. Finally, someone wants to base a momentous decision on evidence, rather than on an appeal to "trust us," from an administration that has lost our trust. We who fear for the subversion of fundamental democratic principles should do everything we can to strenghten the voice of Dennis Kucinich. Herb Jenkins
+8 # Yakpsyche 2013-09-06 10:06
These are important questions in a rational world. Unfortunately this war effort is not based on rationality, but politics. Ostensibly it is about America's, and Obama's images in the world. In all likelihood it is more profoundly about the continued imperialism of the US military in service to its plutocratic leaders. The rush to war is a battle of propaganda, a battle of hearts, of political influence, of fear and greed, of desire for dominance. The official justifications and reasons will not be investigated as per the questions cited in this article. If that were to happen the bottom would fall out of this propaganda effort. Therefore, to "pop the bubble", the rational concerns need to be publicized as much as possible, fighting the propaganda war with the strategy of showing that the "emperor has no clothes". Merely the asking of the questions will do the job, if done correctly and repeatedly. Simplify the list, shout it from the rooftops and make it a slogan! Fight the good fight on the battle plains of emotions. Shame them! Embarrass them! Ridicule them for lack of foundation! Repeat! Repeat! Repeat!
+7 # wrknight 2013-09-06 10:43
Unfortunately, there is little intelligence in American Intelligence.
+4 # da gaf 2013-09-06 15:33
Jews are the the most intelligent people in the world- have won more Noble prizes- have proved their worth in many different places..but their claim that they are the chosen people of GOD have caused all their history of being hated by everyone else- they just have to drop that stupid saying-all is one is better than the other we all come from the same source- all is divine!
+2 # mjc 2013-09-07 09:08
Most religions or religious doctrines begin with the concept of being the chosen people. The problem with the PRESENT Israeli government is that they are so committed to this concept that they cannot accept other doctrines as acceptable as well, Muslim in particular. A "chosen people" would not be treating indigenous people, Arabs for the most part, like they were dirt. Nor would they continue to seek ever more territory, all the while claiming the need to protect themselves. While Jews in the 20th Century in particular were persecuted and murder in many places of the world, Europe in particular, but that is no evidence that Jews were hated everywhere. Anti-semitism and the hate that goes with it were diseased propaganda passed on from generation to generation. Now the ultra conservatives and many Likud members have turned that propaganda into their very own, justifying denying equality for all ethnic groups and religious orientations.
+6 # USA2012??? 2013-09-07 08:04
You go Dennis Kucinich:

Bravo for having the balls to say enough is enough: if you run for the White House you'll have my vote as long as long you continue to do what seems like the responsible and right thing to do!

Now there my friends reads a well thought out series of queries to consider before getting involved in another country's internal differences. Further more how can anyone be so careless as not to ask at the very least the questions above before engaging in an activity that will most certainly create more carnage than that which has been stated of the victims of the alleged attacks?

I think those in Congress considering such action should volunteer to go right along with those they'd so callously send into Harm's Way! What is this thing that the US has seemingly adopted and devolved into killing so many people with wanton disregard for human life?

However, I'm not so naive as to not recognize that whomever sits in the White House is subjected to some serious arm twisting to have deviated so drastically from their political platform that got them into office in the first place. I guess the most obvious question here is, "Who really runs the United States?"

We've become the very thing that we had everyone believing we were against! Want to stop wars? Stop the banks and those who profit war from financing them.
+1 # fresnoman4man 2013-09-08 00:37
Dennis drills into O-bomb-a's disingenuous bloviation and pops it like it was a balloon full of hot air. I supported Dennis both times he ran for President and I would do so again.
+2 # tomtom 2013-09-08 10:07
Won't bombing the world's largest stockpiler of CW's cause the world's largest release of chemicals on all life residing at all those ground zeros?

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