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Theater of the Absurd Print
Written by <a href="index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=userProfile&user=32900"><span class="small">Scott Ritter, Reader Supported News</span></a>   
Sunday, 12 July 2015 13:30

Ritter writes: "Policy formulated in a vacuum of fact is doomed to fail, and any effort to solve a problem without first accurately defining that problem solves nothing."

Tony Blair and George W. Bush in Crawford, Texas. (photo: Reuters)
Tony Blair and George W. Bush in Crawford, Texas. (photo: Reuters)


Theater of the Absurd

By Scott Ritter, Reader Supported News

12 July 15

 

en years ago to the day, I awoke in an upscale hotel room in Charing Cross, London -- directly across from the Nelson Monument and Trafalgar Square. I was in the United Kingdom to promote my book, Iraq Confidential, which had just been published by I.B. Taurus. It was part of a larger tour which saw me speak at the Make Poverty History rally in Edinburgh, Scotland, on July 2, on the eve of the G-8 Summit, address a crowd of anti-war protestors outside the giant US eavesdropping facility Menwith Hill, in North Yorkshire, on July 4, and speak to audiences at universities in Leeds, Oxford and London. The tour was to conclude with speaking events at two prestigious venues -- the Royal Institute of International Affairs, better known as Chatham House, and the Royal United Services Institute.

The Chatham House event was scheduled for the afternoon of July 7. I was in London for a few days, and I had decided to make the most of it. I had been conducting (and continue to conduct) historical research into anti-Soviet resistance in Central Asia in the early 20th century, and wanted to take advantage of the considerable archives located at the British Library. I had also contacted a Member of Parliament I knew to see if she could arrange a tour of a London Fire Brigade station (I was at the time an active member in my local volunteer fire department.) I took one look at the crowd heading into the Charing Cross station of the London Underground. It was 8.45 in the morning, and I had wanted to be at the British Library by the time it opened at 9.30. I quickly opted to take a cab. The ride itself was uneventful until we approached Euston. As a fire buff, I was always alert to the presence of fire apparatus, and I noticed several engines, lights and sirens active, passing us on the road. As the cab passed the Euston underground station, traffic came to a halt. There were crowds of people in the median, and smoke could be seen coming from vents near the station entrance. A pair of fire engines were parked on the curb.

"There must be an accident in the tube," the driver said. He pointed out that the British Library was only a few blocks away, and that I might make better time walking from here. I looked at my watch -- it was 9.40; I was already late. I thanked him, paid my fare, and headed down a street toward the library. As I started to cross the road at Tavistock Square, I heard a "pop" to my right, and was suddenly engulfed by a surge of people, with uniformed Bobbies calmly but sternly telling the crowd, myself included, to "Move away, now."

Like the rest of London that morning, I was oblivious to the tragedy that had been unfolding around us. The "pop" I had heard had been the sound of Hasib Hussain, the 18-year old son of Pakistani immigrants, detonating a backpack bomb on the upper deck of a London city bus, killing himself and 13 others. Germain Lindsay, a 19-year old immigrant from Jamaica who recently converted to Islam, had exploded a similar device onboard a Piccadilly Line train (the very line I would have been on had I opted to ride the tube), taking the lives of 26 people in addition to his own. It was the smoke from this explosion that I had seen wafting from the Euston underground station. Two other suicide bombers struck two more underground trains, bringing the total number of casualties to 52 civilians dead, with more than 700 wounded.

I joined thousands of other stranded commuters in a long walk through London, heading to work, home or, in my case, back to my hotel. Cell phone service was out throughout London, so I was uncertain as to what was happening with regard to the Chatham House speaking event. I headed to 10 St. James Square, where I found my hosts and a handful of invited guests waiting. We decided that the original meeting would be rescheduled for another day because of the day's tragic events, but I agreed to participate in an informal gathering that afternoon in Chatham House involving the dozen or so people who had, like me, arrived not knowing what impact the terror attacks would have on the schedule.

While the meeting at Chatham House was supposed to be centered on my book, Iraq Confidential, and the issue of disarming Iraq, invariably the events of that morning drove the conversation toward the topic of terrorism and the linkage, if any, between American (and, by extension, British) foreign policy and the decision by individuals such as those who perpetrated the London bombings to resort to terror. This was a topic familiar to me -- I had spoken on this very subject earlier in the week in my presentations in both Edinburgh and Menwith Hill, warning the audience that British complicity in the American invasion and occupation of Iraq could very well have consequences similar in scope and scale to the 9/11 attacks on the United States. This line of argument was fleshed out in more detail at Chatham House, with some participants feeling it was too soon to draw cause and effect relationships between the bombings (details of which were still murky at the time) and specific foreign policy decisions, and others concurring that some sort of blow-back was inevitable, even if it could not be concluded at this juncture that the events of 7/7 represented such.

I had long been warning about the potential for backlash against unsound policies in the Middle East. Prior to September 11, 2001, a cornerstone of my public presentations was the link between radical Islam-inspired terrorism and American policies that subjected millions of innocent civilians to suffering and death. My focus had been on Iraq, the impact of economic sanctions on the Iraqi people, and what this meant in terms of engendering lasting hostility on the part of the Iraqi people and other Arabs/Muslims toward the United States. I was perhaps most prescient, and pointed, at an event held at the University of Texas Permian Basin's John Ben Sheppard Institute, on October 5, 2000, appropriately titled "Foreign Policy & The Threat Of Domestic Terrorism: Can Americans Feel Secure?"

I spoke on a panel that included Robert Gates (the former CIA Director, and future Secretary of State and Defense), Richard Haas (former Director of Policy for the State Department, and current President of the Council of Foreign Relations), and Terry Waite (the British Church of England envoy held hostage for four years in Lebanon.) I took vociferous issue with both Gates and Haas over their depiction of Saddam Hussein's Iraq, noting that America's policies of regime change were the sole source of the continued suffering of the Iraqi people, that millions of Muslims around the world were drawing on this suffering when formulating their opinion of America and Americans, and that sooner or later the mistakes engendered by this policy would come home to roost in the form of attacks on American soil. Needless to say Robert Gates and Richard Haas (both architects of the policy I was attacking) disagreed, opting to blame Saddam Hussein for all that ailed the region (Terry Waite was ambivalent on the subject.)

Iraq as the root cause of terror has been a common theme -- both George W. Bush and Tony Blair drew on that argument in justifying the invasion of Iraq in 2003. But those who decried Saddam Hussein's government as a force of regional and global instability are loath to take this argument to its logical conclusion -- that the actions undertaken by the United States and Great Britain in response to Saddam Hussein are likewise a major motivation of radical Islamists such as those who attacked the United States on 9/11 and London on 7/7. Tony Blair, in a recent interview with the BBC, denied any linkage between the British participation in the invasion and occupation of Iraq and the attacks of 7/7, the words of the attackers notwithstanding (Shehzad Tanweer, one of the bombers, recorded a videotape in which he stated "What you have witnessed now is only the beginning of a string of attacks that will continue and become stronger until you pull your forces out of Afghanistan and Iraq.") American political leaders have shown a similar intellectual blindness in decrying any linkage between American policy and acts of terror.

The presence of such blinders on those responsible for the formulation of foreign policy in both London and Washington, DC is disturbing, especially in the context of the ongoing debate over how the United States, Great Britain and others should respond to the ISIS phenomenon. "There will always be reasons and excuses that people use for terrorism," Tony Blair told the BBC when asked if he bore some culpability for the 7/7 attacks because of his Iraq policy. "In the end, the responsibility has got to lie with the people who carry this out and with those who encourage them," he said. Creating a gap between policy and terror allows one to live the illusion that there is no moral equivalency between "civilized" governments, such as the United States and Great Britain, and the forces of evil which conduct terror attacks like 9/11 and 7/7.

Such thinking belongs to the theater of the absurd, since it fails to address real issues in a meaningful way. It is not important what America and Great Britain think the motivations of those who commit acts of terror are -- it is only important what the perpetrators themselves think. Policy formulated in a vacuum of fact is doomed to fail, and any effort to solve a problem without first accurately defining that problem solves nothing. If one discussed the morality of a policy that killed millions of innocent Iraqi civilians (i.e., sanctions) or thousands of innocent Afghans (i.e., American drone strikes and aerial bombing) with the actual victims, the result would be the same as if one discussed the issue of morality with the victims of the terrorist attacks in London and the United States -- mindless violence against innocents, whether perpetrated by a government, group or individual, is immoral, period.

I didn't get to take my tour of a London Fire Brigade station on the evening of July 7 -- the firefighters were still involved in dealing with the consequences of the attack. I did get to spend time the next day with the crew of a rescue truck based out of Euston that had been among the first to respond to the scene of the attack at Russell Square, and later with an engine crew from SoHo that was first in at King's Station. There was no politics involved in our talk, just the straight-forward insights of men and women who had stared unspeakable tragedy in the face. There was a decided lack of the kind of chest thumping, vitriolic revenge mongering one would have witnessed in the United States under similar circumstances. Neither these firefighters nor the civilians they were aiding were responsible for the policies that the terrorists drew upon for their motivation in attacking. But the same could be said of the innocent victims of American and British bombings in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria -- they were not behind the actions of ISIS, Al Qaeda or the Taliban that the air strikes were responding to. Violence creates a vicious cycle, where one act leads to another, and so on and so forth. This maxim should be kept in mind as policy toward ISIS and other groups is being formulated. It is not the politicians who will bear the consequences of such policy, but rather the civilians and first responders who come to their aid when the inevitable blow-back strikes home. Just ask the firefighters of London.



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The Democrats' Demographic Edge Print
Sunday, 12 July 2015 13:26

Cook writes: "The GOP doesn't just have a growing problem with nonwhites; it has a shrinkage problem as well, as conservative white seniors are supplanted by college-educated millennials with different cultural attitudes."

The changing demographics of voters could give Democrats in edge in the next presidential election. (photo: Gary Cameron/Reuters)
The changing demographics of voters could give Democrats in edge in the next presidential election. (photo: Gary Cameron/Reuters)


The Democrats' Demographic Edge

By Charlie Cook, The Atlantic

12 July 15

 

Longterm trends may favor the party, but offer no guarantee of success in 2016.

art of what makes the 2016 presidential race so much fun is that two very astute observers looking at it through two different lenses can come up with two totally different predictions about which party is likely to prevail.

Looking at the race through a historical lens, the odds would seem stacked against Hillary Clinton (assuming that she is the Democratic nominee). In the post-World War II era, only six times has one party held the presidency for two consecutive terms, and only once has that party kept the White House for a third—a pattern that reflects what I call the “time for a change” voter dynamic. In fact, the last Democratic president directly elected to succeed another was James Buchanan, in 1856; he followed Franklin Pierce.

But looking through a demographic lens, the modern GOP's increasing reliance on a shrinking pool of older, white, and working-class voters—and its failure to attract nonwhite voters—would seem to present an enormous obstacle to the eventual Republican nominee. In 1980, when nonwhite voters were just 12 percent of the electorate, Ronald Reagan won 56 percent of white voters and was elected in a landslide. But in 2012, when nonwhite voters accounted for 28 percent of the electorate, Mitt Romney took 59 percent of white voters—and lost the presidential race by 4 percentage points. Without a total brand makeover, how can Republicans expect to prevail with an even more diverse electorate in 2016?

Although we don't yet know the identity of the future GOP nominee, we can begin to surmise what the electorate will look like next November. Cook Political Report House Editor David Wasserman recently crunched census and exit-poll data to build a statistical model of the likely electorate in each state, breaking down voters into five distinct groups: 1) whites with college degrees, 2) whites without college degrees, 3) African-Americans, 4) Latinos, and 5) Asians/others.

First, the good news for Democrats: If the electorate evolves in sync with the Census Bureau's estimates of the adult citizen population (admittedly, a big if), the white share of the electorate would drop from 72 percent in 2012 to 70 percent in 2016; the African American share would remain stable at 13 percent; the Latino portion would grow from 10 percent to 11 percent; and the Asian/other segment would increase from 5 percent to 6 percent. If the 2012 election had been held with that breakdown (keeping all other variables stable), President Obama would have won by 5.4 percentage points rather than by his actual 3.85-point margin.

In addition, the group with which the GOP does best—whites without college degrees—is the only one poised to shrink in 2016. President Obama won just 36 percent of these voters in 2012, while 42 percent of white voters with college degrees pulled the lever for him. But if the electorate changes in line with census estimates, the slice of college-educated whites will grow by 1 point, to 37 percent of all voters, while the portion of whites without degrees will shrink 3 points, to just 33 percent of the total. In other words, the GOP doesn't just have a growing problem with nonwhites; it has a shrinkage problem as well, as conservative white seniors are supplanted by college-educated millennials with different cultural attitudes.

All that said, none of these data points proves that Republicans are doomed in 2016; in fact, the GOP has some reason for optimism. First, hard math makes talk of Democrats “expanding the map” by capitalizing on favorable demographic trends in Arizona and Georgia sound premature at best. For example, Romney beat Obama by 7.8 percentage points in Georgia in 2012. Wasserman estimates that the white share of the electorate there could decline from 64 percent to 62 percent—but that change by itself wouldn't erase even a third of Romney's margin of victory in the state.

Furthermore, the shifts a Republican would need to win the Electoral College vote might be less dramatic than commonly thought. If you're searching for the “magic number” of Latinos that Republicans would need to capture the White House, you may not find one. Even if Romney had done 10 points better with Latinos in every state in 2012—winning 37 percent instead of 27 percent nationally—he would have won only one additional state: Florida. That's primarily because Latino voters tend to be concentrated in states such as California, New York, and Texas, which aren't Electoral College battlegrounds. However, if the Republican nominee were to do just 3 points better across all five segments of the electorate in 2016—a goal many GOP candidates easily surpassed in 2014—he or she would win seven more states, and 305 electoral votes.

That may be easier said than done. But the bottom line is that demographic trends, while helpful to Democrats, are no guarantee that the party will hold the White House beyond 2017.


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Greece, US Student Loans, and the Shifting Ethos of Debt Forgiveness Print
Sunday, 12 July 2015 13:21

Trumbull writes: "A political battle is under way between advocates of fiscal rectitude and forces of fiscal populism. And by some indications, the populists may be gaining ground."

An anti-austerity rally in front of the parliament in central Athens. (photo: Petros Karadjias/AP)
An anti-austerity rally in front of the parliament in central Athens. (photo: Petros Karadjias/AP)


Greece, US Student Loans, and the Shifting Ethos of Debt Forgiveness

By Mark Trumbull, The Christian Science Monitor

12 July 15

 

In the political battle under way between advocates of fiscal rectitude and forces of fiscal populism, there are signs that the populists are winning.

n Europe, cash-strapped Greece is at a crossroads between cutting a deal with foreign creditors or cutting out of the euro zone. In America, the burden of student loans has become a major issue for the budding 2016 presidential race – with one candidate announcing this week a plan for “immediate relief” for college-loan borrowers.

These two news headlines, although distinct from each other in many ways, point to a common theme: Across at least part of the developed world, a political battle is under way between advocates of fiscal rectitude and forces of fiscal populism.

And by some indications, the populists may be gaining ground.

“The world has moved to the point of agreeing that inequality per se is a problem that needs to be dealt with,” says Angel Ubide, an economist and senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics in Washington.

One prominent sign is that the concept of outright debt forgiveness is being discussed as a part of the hoped-for solution in Greece and for some Americans struggling with big debts left over from college. And some economists say America’s disappointingly slow recovery from the recession would have been stronger if greater emphasis had been placed on debt relief for “underwater” mortgage borrowers – many of whom still have loan balances higher than the current value of their homes.

Beyond that, in the campaign for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2016, the popularity of left-wing candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont has surprised many (including rival candidate Hillary Clinton), as he pairs a call for high taxes on the rich and on Wall Street with the goal of free college for all.

Outside the US, Europe has edged away from an emphasis on fiscal “austerity,” or the focus on containing public-debt levels in a bid to ensure strong economic prospects for the future. And on a global level, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) also has been evolving from an austerity focus toward a more nuanced approach, encompassing concerns about inequality and the notion that fiscal stimulus packages can be in the toolkit for helping troubled nations.

All this doesn’t mean the policies of advanced nations will be swinging wildly to the left.

For one, Greece may end up capitulating to creditors, to avoid the severe shock to its banking system that would come with a repudiation of its membership in the European Union.

And Senator Sanders is unlikely to become the next US president. He and former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley (the one with a new student debt plan this week) may pull Mrs. Clinton toward the left during the primary campaign, but they remain long shots to beat her for the nomination.

It’s also notable that in recent elections, Britain and America affirmed support for conservative legislators.

Still, the broader story appears to be that in this post-recession era, income inequality is demanding political attention alongside questions of economic growth, and debt relief is on the agenda alongside the traditional concerns of creditors and fiscal watchdogs.

Against this backdrop, Greece has become a symbolic focal point – for now at least – of this policy battle.

“The conflict [between Greece and its creditors] is a proxy” for this larger global tussle, Mr. Ubide wrote on the Peterson Institute’s website. “The political war is over populist and nationalistic policies aimed at addressing the economic cost of the long and severe recession.”

Two changes explain why this conflict is coming to the fore, Ubide says in a phone interview. First, evidence of widening inequality within advanced nations has increased in recent years. Second, more economists have begun leaning toward the view that these high levels of inequality are harming economic growth.

Those currents of thought are paralleled by the visceral evidence voters see in their own bank accounts and family lives.

  • Even with their diplomas and swelling college debts, Americans age 18 to 29 face an unemployment rate of 9.6 percent as of July, close to twice the national average. Youth unemployment is even higher in Europe, at 23 percent as of the final quarter of 2014. In Greece, fully half of all young people are unemployed.

  • The people hit hardest by the Great Recession, in terms of lasting declines in family net worth, have been low-income households, according to US data tracked by the Federal Reserve. The housing bust also hit African-Americans particularly hard.

  • Two-thirds of adults in 10 advanced nations, from the US and Japan to Germany and other European nations, say they expect today’s children to be worse off financially than their parents, according to global polling by the Pew Research Center released last fall.

  • Some of the very countries with high levels of debt – Greece, Spain, Italy, France – also show large majorities saying that inequality is a “very big problem,” according to the Pew polling.

This suggests that any new policies aimed at reducing inequality may involve difficult political trade-offs, or the financial risk that comes with still higher debt. (Concern about inequality is also high in the US, with 46 percent saying it’s a very big problem.)

Even Republican candidates finding the issue hard to ignore, although they aren’t necessarily embracing income redistribution as an overt goal.

“Many young people are graduating with mountains of debt for degrees that will not lead to jobs,” Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida said in a speech this week. “And many who need higher education the most – such as single parents and working adults – are left with few options that fit their schedules and budgets.”

Meanwhile, backers of Senator Rubio's rival Jeb Bush have adopted the organizational name “Right to Rise,” a nod to the stalling of upward mobility that many Americans perceive as a social problem.

Republicans say the answer to this problem hinges, first and foremost, on reviving economic growth, albeit with some new attention to ensuring that the fruits of growth are widely shared. And empathy for Americans struggling with high debt loads, for them, is matched by calls to bring down the overall level of government debt.

Rubio, for example, alleged on Wednesday that Obama administration policies on student debt offer some “generous forgiveness that may be fiscally unsustainable in years ahead.” In the same breath, though, he pitched his own way of addressing student-debt burdens, a bipartisan bill to promote income-based repayment programs for debtors. And he says that unleashing more competition in higher education put a cap on the trend of skyrocketing tuition costs.

Democratic candidates are appealing to many millennials with proposals to make higher education – viewed by many Americans as the best ticket to jobs with decent wages – accessible to all comers. In announcing his proposal for free public-university tuition for those who meet enrollment standards, Sanders said the overall economy won’t be ready to prosper “if, every year, hundreds of thousands of bright young people cannot afford to go to college, and if millions more leave school deeply in debt."

Governor O’Malley sought to outmaneuver Sanders with his own proposal for “debt-free” college for all, plus generous refinancing terms for existing student loans that, next to mortgages, are the biggest source of consumer debt.

Yet on the left, too, policies aimed at helping people of low and moderate incomes are balanced by the recognition that prosperity hinges on overall economic growth.

“Nations need to ensure both that economic growth takes place and that it is broadly shared,” says a major report, co-written by former Treasury Secretary Lawrence Summers. Don’t be surprised to hear the Clinton campaign echoing that report from the Center for American Progress.

In Europe, similar themes are on display. Populist parties have gained new prominence since the recession. In Britain, conservatives have embraced a “living wage” policy – though one that falls short of what their opponents would like to see.

Germany is the bastion of fiscal discipline, donning the role of tough cop on the continent since worries about the finances of Greece and some other nations began to surface in 2009. But concern about a possible debt crisis spreading beyond Greece have eased in part as institutions like the IMF and European Central Bank have gone beyond a focus on simple austerity. Those institutions have become focused on stimulating economic growth and fighting the risk of deflation in the euro zone – not just on demanding spending cuts or tax hikes in high-debt nations.

It’s helpful to remember that this kind of wrangling over debt and inequality is nothing new.

How and whether to pay debts from the Revolutionary War was a major issue in the founding of the American republic, for instance. (The Founding Fathers ultimately chose to pay up.) And Europe has seen massive swings between socialism and free-market economics since the 1800s. Greece – not to mention Germany after World War I – has defaulted before.

This time, again, old realities hold true. Not all debts get repaid in full, but deep troubles can come to nations that completely lose face with creditors. For Greece, now is a moment of reckoning that’s being watched around the world.


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FOCUS: The FBI's July 4th Terror Arrests: Bollocks Print
Written by <a href="index.php?option=com_comprofiler&task=userProfile&user=11104"><span class="small">Charles Pierce, Esquire</span></a>   
Sunday, 12 July 2015 12:06

Pierce writes: "I hate to be this cynical, but I've now lived through damned near 15 years of this stuff, so I'm not buying the rap wholesale any more. My government, and the people working in it, have found fear far too useful."

FBI director James Comey. (photo: Jim Reed/The Tampa Tribune)
FBI director James Comey. (photo: Jim Reed/The Tampa Tribune)


The FBI's July 4th Terror Arrests: Bollocks

By Charles Pierce, Esquire

12 July 15

 

Why are they going out of their way to tell us that nothing happened?

hate to be this cynical, but I've now lived through damned near 15 years of this stuff, so I'm not buying the rap wholesale any more. My government, and the people working in it, have found fear far too useful.

"I do believe our work disrupted efforts to kill people, likely in connection with July 4," Comey told reporters at FBI headquarters in Washington. Comey's comments are a public confirmation made by other law enforcement that several people were arrested in the past month over concerns that they might have been inspired by ISIS to carry out attacks either during the holiday or during the Muslim holy period of Ramadan.

Bollocks. Coming hard on the heels of the news that, during the unrest in Baltimore, law-enforcement engaged in a fairly thorough disinformation campaign, I'm going to need a lot more than than Comey's word on this.

The FBI has arrested around a dozen people in the past four weeks, Comey said. "We made the arrests to thwart what we thought they were up to," he added. "Some of them were focused on the Fourth of July, and that's as specific as I can get." He declined to say how many of those arrested were planning to carry out attacks or to describe the nature of what they were planning.

Show me the evidence. Bring them all to trial. Until then, what is the point in telling us anything at all? If the attacks were thwarted, we really don't have to know about them, do we? Unless, of course, your point in releasing this information is to keep the fear level high enough so that you can aggrandize your own power a little more.

Some of those arrested, he said, had been using end-to-end encryption programs to communicate with ISIS. He warned Congress on Wednesday that it's becoming much harder for the FBI to track potential ISIS followers because of the growth in encryption technology.

According to what we are allowed to know about it, the U.S. intelligence budget for 2014 was somewhere around $70 billion. If we're spending that money and still can get outsmarted by angry teenagers, and some guys driving pick-up trucks around Syria, somebody needs to get fired in a hurry.


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FOCUS: My Lunch With Harper Lee Print
Sunday, 12 July 2015 10:17

Winfrey writes: " I did not live a Jim Crow segregated life, because I was one of the fortunate ones who were able to escape Mississippi. And I do mean escape: 1960, when this book was published, was the time I was leaving Mississippi."

Oprah Winfrey (photo: dailymail.co.uk)
Oprah Winfrey (photo: dailymail.co.uk)


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My Lunch With Harper Lee

By Oprah Winfrey, Guardian UK

12 July 15

 

There are only two interviews Oprah Winfrey failed to get, and one of them was with the author of To Kill A Mockingbird. The legendary broadcaster recalls meeting her match on a rainy day in New York

t the time I read To Kill A Mockingbird, I was living with my mother in Milwaukee. I would not have had any money to buy it, so I would undoubtedly have chosen it from the library. I was one of those kids who would go to the library every two weeks, withdraw five books, read the five books, and return them. It was a librarian who said, “If you like reading that kind of book, I think you will like reading this book.”

So I picked up To Kill A Mockingbird. I remember starting it and just devouring it, not being able to get enough of it, because I fell in love with Scout. I thought I was Scout. I always took on or wanted to take on the characteristics of whoever I was reading about, and so I wanted to be Scout and I wanted a father like Atticus Finch.

I wanted to have a relationship like Scout had with Atticus, so I could call him by his first name. I wanted a nickname like Scout’s. I was drawn to the book because of that, and it wasn’t until I saw the film that I came to realise the depth of the racial implications of the book.

I remember watching the movie with my father many years after I first read the book. The impact of the movie on my father caused me to see and experience the book differently. I am right after the cusp of the civil rights movement. I wasn’t a child of the movement. I am one of those people who has been a great beneficiary of it. I don’t know what it is like to be told to go to the back door. I did not live a Jim Crow segregated life, because I was one of the fortunate ones who were able to escape Mississippi. And I do mean escape: 1960, when this book was published, was the time I was leaving Mississippi.

I left for Milwaukee and left my grandmother when I was six years old, so I never experienced the segregation of the south. I moved to an integrated school and was the smartest kid in the class, and when you are the smartest kid in the class, you always get a lot of attention. I never felt any of the oppressiveness of racism. I always recognise that life would have been so different for me had I been raised in a segregated environment – if I had to experience even secondhand what was happening in that environment.

My roots are southern. Not only was I born in the south, in Mississippi, but for a great part of my life, I was raised in Tennessee – so I identify with being a southern woman. After reading To Kill A Mockingbird, I wished I had an accent, and I would go around trying to imitate Scout. It was sickening, I guess. I scared other kids because, just like I do now, I remember reading this book and then going to class and not being able to shut up about it. I read it in eighth or ninth grade, and I was trying to push the book on other kids. So it makes sense that now I have a book club, because I have been doing that since this book. It’s one of the first books I wanted to encourage other people to read.

Like a lot of people, I get the lines blurred between the movie and the book. I have never seen a book really live its essence through a film like this one, and that is because of the casting of Scout and Atticus – all of them, really.

I once had the honour of being seated next to Gregory Peck, at a lunch held for Quincy Jones in Hollywood. I was like, “Oh my God, it is Gregory Peck. What am I going to do? What am I going to say? I am not just at the same table, but next to Gregory Peck.” It was long after I had the talkshow and I had interviewed many people, but I could not think of one thing to say. Finally I turned and I said, “So, how is Scout doing?” And he said, “Well, that was 40 years ago, but OK.” I said, “Do you ever see her?” Because in my brain, no matter what role Gregory Peck has done since then, he will always be Atticus to me, and the woman who played Scout is always Scout in my mind.

I liked Scout’s energy, her spirit – the freshness of her. I liked the fact she was so curious. Even at 10, she knew who she was and believed in herself, and was learning about this whole world of racism in such a way that I could feel myself also experiencing it— my eyes opening as hers were.

When I opened my school in South Africa, everybody wanted to know: what can we bring and what can we give the girls? I asked everybody to bring their favourite book, and I would say we probably have 100 copies of To Kill A Mockingbird. Everyone wrote their own message to the girls about why they believed this book was important, and everybody said something different.

Of course I wanted to choose it for the Oprah Winfrey book club, even though America already loves it. I thought, “Wouldn’t it be an amazing thing to have Harper Lee come on and be interviewed?” I worked on that for a couple of years, with my staff calling back and forth between her agent.

Finally, we were able to arrange a meeting, and I was so excited. I remember it was a rainy day in New York, and we were going to have lunch at the Four Seasons. I saw her walking along the street with an umbrella and boots. It was so disarming and charming I couldn’t believe it. All of that “What am I going to say? What am I going to do?” went away. We were like instant girlfriends. It was just wonderful, and I loved being with her.

I knew 20 minutes into the conversation that I would never be able to convince her to do an interview, and it is not my style to push. I decided to relax and enjoy the time I had. Because honey, she was not going to be convinced at all. She said to me: “I already said everything I needed to say. Already we have those buses coming down to my house, and they pull up to the door still looking for Boo Radley, and I just don’t want that to happen any more than it already does.” She said no, and I knew that no meant no. Sometimes no means, “Hmm, let us see what else you have to say.” But when Harper Lee said no, I knew that was the end of it. I just enjoyed the lunch.

I think now, “Why didn’t I take a tape recorder?” Because your brain is like, “Oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, I am having lunch with Harper Lee, and I hope I remember everything, and I am trying to memorise every sentence she is saying!” Then afterwards you think, “What did she say? What did I say?”

One of the things that struck me: she said, “If I had a dime for every book that was sold…” And I was thinking, “I hope you have more than a dime, because nobody expected this.” Certainly she didn’t expect its success, and obviously the publishers didn’t expect it. More than 50 years later, we are still talking about this book.

She said to me, “You know the character Boo Radley? Well, if you know Boo, then you understand why I wouldn’t be doing an interview. Because I am really Boo.” I knew we were not going to bring Boo Radley out to sit on the Oprah show.

She will always be one of those people, like Jackie Onassis, who I also wanted to interview, who told me no – and I honour that. The way I felt about being turned down is exactly the way I felt about Onassis. In the end, I was glad she didn’t do it, that she was able to hold on to that for herself.


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