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Gee. Are we all to think that this is anything unusual? Something new? Trump, Putin, the Clintons, the Bushes - all of them work for and with the oligarchs. Not one of them gives a fly's turd about the 99.999% of the rest of us.
If Spier really wants to do something, how about NOT voting for trillions of $$$$ for the American kleptocrat's muscle, aka the US military? Or actually getting a Constitutional Amendment pass invalidating Citizens United? Or taking back Congress' Constitutionally mandated war powers?
One could go on and on. But I am nauseated by the pretence that only Trump or the Russians or Putin are morally corrupt when Jackie knows perfectly well that ALL OF OUR LEADERS ARE CONTROLLED BY THE KLEPTOCRACY.
And she and the rest of the neolib Demos do absolutely nothing about it. Because they are part of the problem, not the solution.
This absurd Russian bashing, withdrawing from treaties is RISKING NUCLEAR WAR AND OMNICIDE FROM NUCLEAR WINTER.
And all these $174K/year + perks politicos can do is whine about some real estate deals. Jesus F Christ.
labor -- I agree with you. Washington is for sale, or more precisely, the elected representatives we send there to do government work are for sale. They have been bought off by every oligarch, corrupt dictator, weapons maker, banker, and criminal you can imagine.
We just hardly pay any attention any more when Obama or Hillary (or Bill) gives a speech to some bankers for a half million or more. I read not long ago that Obama has made about $20 million on speeches since leaving the white house. These are "retroactive bribes." Maybe we should call it the "whore house." The people who live there sure will do a lot for some money.
I remember talking once with a Mexican security official about the corruption in his country compared to the US. His response was the only difference between the corruption in his country and the US was in the US the corruption is legalized.
Let's see - why does trump lick Putin's boots? A. He likes the flavor of leather, especially with the order of corruption and money B. trump loves putin's money and will do and say anything for a buck C. trump is so compromised that his only alternatives are to lick putin boots or go to jail and lose everything
D. trump wants to be caught, get fitted for his new pin stripes, live behind bars (iron, not gold) and he's looking for his next "girlfriends" in the new trump tower - the one with barbed wire and large men with AR 15s up in the tower.
Time to pul back the curtains on the wizard of ooze n' slime
Imagine that Trump, instead, was in thrall to Israel, maybe through his son-in-law Jared Kushner, who is also close to Saudi Arabia, which feels entitled to torture and murder WaPo reporters as well as to commit genocide right next door to itself -- while the U.S. studies its nails.
Would there be equal outrage? After all, while the evidence of Russian "hacking" of the 2016 election has never been forthcoming, and seems likely not to exist in any reliable form, the evidence of Israeli political influence, and Saudi economic, is not only overwhelming, but right out in the open, even bragged about publicly by a former Israeli Prime Minister.
Oh, wait. Trump *is* kompromatted by Israel and Saudi Arabia, both of which seem to have _de facto_ control over U.S. foreign policy. So why is there no outrage? Maybe because most of the folks who are most vocal about "Russiagate" are essentially on the tab for Israel and the KSA. The neo-cons are notoriously close to Israel, with some of them holding dual citizenship; they are the most droolingly eager for "regime change" in Russia, or, in the alternative, to carry out a nuclear sneak attack on Moscow. And the Clintons, and by extension their "base," are in debt to, if not in cahoots with, Saudi Arabia.
Given Russia's diplomatically close relations to Israel, perhaps the truth is that both Trump and Putin have been bought by Netanyahu, as well as by Mr. Bone Saw.
Ah, the old International Jewish Conspiracy theme right out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. But of course no leftist could ever be Antisemitic, could they?
Salburger is it possible to criticize Israel without being against the jewish religion or in other words anti-Semitic? If you criticize Saudi Arabia and/or its leader Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud would that make you against all those who are muslims?
This opinion piece is classic example of confirmation bias. Rep. Speier gives examples, mainly speculation and innuendo with no evidence linking Putin to Trump, which confirm her beliefs while failing to give opposing evidence to the contrary. Evidence like the fact that Trump imposed new sanctions on Russia, and attacked Syria in spite of Putin's objections to name a few. Not to mention the British are also influencing policy in the US to get us to make Russia our enemy again, see here https://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/11/british-government-behind-secret-anti-russian-disinformation-campaign.html
yolo -- yes, you would think that after 2 years of investigation by the world's most sophisticated investigative bodies (FBI, CIA, MI6, NSA) there would be some real solid evidence. The NSA and CIA have transcripts of every money transaction ever made on earth, as long as those transactions were electronic.
If these agencies had anything significant, it would have leaked. They leak everything.
But there is huge evidence of the whole scandal having been fabricated by the CIA and MI6. Now that explanation has real legs to stand on. The Trump - Russia conspiracy theory goes back to the CIA and MI6. No one is talking about the illegality of these two agencies meddling in the 2016 election and in the presidency of Trump.
Selling real estate to Russians is not proof of anything other than rich Russians are taking their money out of Russia and making that country poorer. This is something the US government has encouraged for a very long time.
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If Spier really wants to do something, how about NOT voting for trillions of $$$$ for the American kleptocrat's muscle, aka the US military? Or actually getting a Constitutional Amendment pass invalidating Citizens United? Or taking back Congress' Constitutionall y mandated war powers?
One could go on and on. But I am nauseated by the pretence that only Trump or the Russians or Putin are morally corrupt when Jackie knows perfectly well that ALL OF OUR LEADERS ARE CONTROLLED BY THE KLEPTOCRACY.
And she and the rest of the neolib Demos do absolutely nothing about it. Because they are part of the problem, not the solution.
This absurd Russian bashing, withdrawing from treaties is RISKING NUCLEAR WAR AND OMNICIDE FROM NUCLEAR WINTER.
And all these $174K/year + perks politicos can do is whine about some real estate deals. Jesus F Christ.
We just hardly pay any attention any more when Obama or Hillary (or Bill) gives a speech to some bankers for a half million or more. I read not long ago that Obama has made about $20 million on speeches since leaving the white house. These are "retroactive bribes." Maybe we should call it the "whore house." The people who live there sure will do a lot for some money.
A. He likes the flavor of leather, especially with the order of corruption and money
B. trump loves putin's money and will do and say anything for a buck
C. trump is so compromised that his only alternatives are to lick putin boots or go to jail and lose everything
D. trump wants to be caught, get fitted for his new pin stripes, live behind bars (iron, not gold) and he's looking for his next "girlfriends" in the new trump tower - the one with barbed wire and large men with AR 15s up in the tower.
Time to pul back the curtains on the wizard of ooze n' slime
Would there be equal outrage? After all, while the evidence of Russian "hacking" of the 2016 election has never been forthcoming, and seems likely not to exist in any reliable form, the evidence of Israeli political influence, and Saudi economic, is not only overwhelming, but right out in the open, even bragged about publicly by a former Israeli Prime Minister.
Oh, wait. Trump *is* kompromatted by Israel and Saudi Arabia, both of which seem to have _de facto_ control over U.S. foreign policy. So why is there no outrage? Maybe because most of the folks who are most vocal about "Russiagate" are essentially on the tab for Israel and the KSA. The neo-cons are notoriously close to Israel, with some of them holding dual citizenship; they are the most droolingly eager for "regime change" in Russia, or, in the alternative, to carry out a nuclear sneak attack on Moscow. And the Clintons, and by extension their "base," are in debt to, if not in cahoots with, Saudi Arabia.
Given Russia's diplomatically close relations to Israel, perhaps the truth is that both Trump and Putin have been bought by Netanyahu, as well as by Mr. Bone Saw.
If these agencies had anything significant, it would have leaked. They leak everything.
But there is huge evidence of the whole scandal having been fabricated by the CIA and MI6. Now that explanation has real legs to stand on. The Trump - Russia conspiracy theory goes back to the CIA and MI6. No one is talking about the illegality of these two agencies meddling in the 2016 election and in the presidency of Trump.
Selling real estate to Russians is not proof of anything other than rich Russians are taking their money out of Russia and making that country poorer. This is something the US government has encouraged for a very long time.