Boehlert writes: "Now, four years later as Obama's second swearing-in approaches, the same misguided insurrectionist pageantry is back on display."
Sean Hannity speculated that states will move to secede should the 'radicalized, abusive federal government' continue on its current path. (photo: Fox News)
The Return of Right-Wing Insurrectionism (This Time Featuring Hitler)
15 January 13
hat is it about President Obama's inaugurations that bring out the craziest of the right-wing crazies?
Four years ago, Obama's historic swearing-in sparked months' worth of teeth-chattering paranoia, trumpeted by the conservative media, about how the new Democratic president posed a mortal threat to America and that drastic action might need to be taken.
In 2009, a far-right Newsmax columnist determined that a "military coup "to resolve the 'Obama problem'" was not "unrealistic." That's about the same time Glenn Beck used his then-new program on Fox News to game out bloody scenarios for the coming civil war against the Obama-led tyranny. Note that the armed rebellion rhetoric was uncorked just weeks after Obama's first cabinet had been confirmed.
Now, four years later as Obama's second swearing-in approaches, the same misguided insurrectionist pageantry is back on display. (The fringe John Birch Society is probing the likelihood of "armed resistance" against the government -- "an unlikely prospect, for now at least.") And this time, Adolf Hitler stars in a leading role.
In fact, there's a disturbing collision now underway featuring two signature, conservative paranoid fantasies. One holds that Obama is like Hitler; that he's a tyrant ready to undo democracy at home. The other is that Americans need access to an unregulated supply of assault weapons in order to fight their looming insurrectionist war with the government.
In the last week we've heard more and more conservatives try to tie the two wild tales together: Obama's allegedly pending gun grab will prove he's just like Hitler, which will demonstrate the need for citizens to declare war on the government.
Ignoring nearly 250 years of our democratic history, conservative voices across the media landscape have been nodding their heads in agreement suggesting it's only a matter of time before the United States resembles a tyrannical dictatorship that will be either fascistic or Stalinist in nature (or both, if the rhetorician feels no obligation to historical accuracy).
So much for the notion of American exceptionalism -- "the conviction that our country holds a unique place and role in human history" -- that conservatives love to preach.
The latest round of right-wing Obama panic was prompted by the Newtown, CT, school massacre. In its wake, Obama is reportedly ready to initiate efforts to curb gun violence, including possibly using executive orders. Simply the idea of instituting common sense gun reform, among other public policy issues, has sparked violent rhetoric about war and sedition early in the new year.
Fox's Todd Starnes warned there would "a revolution" if the government tries to "confiscate our guns." Fox News contributor Arthur Herman declared the U.S. is "one step closer" to a looming "civil war," while fellow contributor Pat Caddell claimed the country was in a "pre-revolutionary condition," and "on the verge of an explosion."
And on his syndicated radio show last week, Sean Hannity speculated that tates will move to secede should the "radicalized, abusive federal government" continue on its current path, and that they'd be justified in doing so.
Who's to blame? Obama and Hilter.
Fox News' Dr. Keith Ablow insisted history's filled with examples of leaders who confiscated guns as a precursor to "catastrophic abuses" of power: "One need look no further than Nazi Germany." Fox's Judge Andrew Napolitano made the same connection, while a Kentucky radio host compared firearm regulations to Nazi "yellow star" laws.
That's the hook for the latest insurrectionist rants: If Obama's going to act like Hitler, then of course right-wing gun owners are going to wage war.
Appearing on Piers Morgan Tonight last week, and after admitting he didn't know that Ronald Reagan had supported an assault weapons ban, Breitbart.com editor Ben Shapiro stuck to his claim that the gun debate in this country is really about "the left and the right" because the right understands Americans have to arm themselves with assault weapons to defend against the United States government [emphasis added]:
SHAPIRO: I told you, why the general population of America, law abiding citizens, need AR-15s.
MORGAN: Why do they need those weapons?
SHAPIRO: They need them for the prospective possibility for the resistance of tyranny. Which is not a concern today, it may not be a concern tomorrow.
MORGAN: Where do you expect tyranny to come from?
SHAPIRO: It could come from the United States, because governments have gone tyrannical before, Piers.
MORGAN: So the reason we cannot remove assault weapons is because of the threat of your own government turning on you in a tyrannical way.
SHAPIRO: Yes.
The right is stockpiling weapons because the U.S. government might go Nazi and declare war on a portion of its own people. And when the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines unleash their unmatched firepower on citizens, "the right" intends to be fully armed with AR-15s to fight a war within the U.S. borders.
That is the reason the Second Amendment exists? It's not for everyday self-defense, or to protect the rights of hunters and gun enthusiasts, , but to enable citizens to go to war with the U.S. government? To fend off a "tyrannical" turn at home. At least according to Shapiro's keen take on history.
That's what was "debated" on CNN last week. Not once but twice.
From conspiracy professional Alex Jones and his CNN harangue on January 7:
Hitler took the guns, Stalin took the guns, Mao took the guns, Fidel Castro took the guns, Hugo Chavez took the guns!" Jones ranted. "And I am here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms!
We already knew from 2009 that far-right voices were fretting about the need for a citizen's militia to stop Obama's destructive ways. Now four years later, with gun control initiatives pending, the frantic rants have escalated and Obama's fiercest critics are rationalizing their insurrectionist chants by comparing the president actions to those of Hitler. The comparison isn't just offensive, it's also inaccurate: the Nazis actually loosened restrictions on private gun ownership (except for Jews and other persecuted groups).
That kind of ugliness not only pollutes our public dialogue, it also gives comfort to gun radicals who embrace the rhetoric. In early 2009, fearing what a friend described as "the Obama gun ban that's on the way," conspiracy nut (and Alex Jones fan) Richard Poplawski lured three Pittsburgh policemen to his apartment, then shot and killed them at his front door.
All the right-wing chatter today about how Obama's following Hitler's lead by allegedly voiding the Second Amendment only adds fuel to an unwanted fire.
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And take your prejudices and lies with you.
Ta-ta.
Thank You.
Whatever the right says to fear, it's because they're busy doing it
Nothing silenced the right-wing coup attempters of the early 90s like little timmy mcveigh's failed attempt to take over the U.S. It shamed the hell out of them to the point where they had to (temporarily) pretend they didn't harbor the exact same sentiments.
Paranoid delusional fantasies are a common thread which links together the entire American right. The ONLY thing capable of curing them of these delusions is to humiliate them.
Congratulations, sleepyheads.
I work in field that tends to attract conservatives and some what I've heard them say about Obama is crazy. I've heard some of my friends say that "America as we know it will end if he wins another term". I've heard them say "Obama will run for a third term and stay in office forever". I've heard them utter other conspiracy theories and fears that are extremely irrational. They honestly viewed losing the 2012 elections in extreme, catastrophic terms.
I will say that 99.99999% of these people are all talk--and no action. What concerns me is .00001% of them, the least sane of them. What concerns me is that one mentally unbalanced crazy person will hear these rants and actually hurt someone.
Buyback sounds like the most direct and posibly workable solution. If Americans love anything more than guns, it's money.
"I will say that 99.99999% of these people are all talk--and no action. What concerns me is .00001% of them, the least sane of them. What concerns me is that one mentally unbalanced crazy person will hear these rants and actually hurt someone."
You are optimistic.
You don't see many liberals ever saying many extreme things about Bush II or other conservatives. The worst that I ever heard about Bush II was that he was a "Nazi" or "War Criminal". I rarely, if ever heard, any prominent liberal or Democrat indirectly call for violence or other "resistance" against Republicans.
And in the Bush era, if any Democrat ever said anything that "controversial" , the media and the Republicans would demand an "apology". Then inevitably the media and talking heads, including many progressive/lib eral columnists, would revert to the standard "both sides do it" argument.
I was watching an MSNBC show--I think it was Rachel Maddow--a week or two ago. Joan Walsh from Salon was debating a "moderate" pundit. The "moderate" pundit uttered "the both sides do it" claim again. Joan Walsh shouted her down effectively.
What is amazing is how "the liberal media" constantly lets Republicans get away with such extreme statements and outright dishonesty. That is the other component of this debate that gets ignored.
And I agree with you about the public tolerating all of their bad behavior. I read on a comment list a complaint about America's "cursed capacity for acceptance" of all of this. Exactly. As long as the American people continue to accept their blatant, vicious lies, worst intentions and terrible deeds towards all of us, it will go on and on and on. The 2014, elections will be here sooner than we can imagine. We really need to elect Progressives and get the last of the Right-wing kooks out. And when Obama leaves office, we need to get a president who will rein in that TV.
Until SCOTUS reviews some of its stupid rulings, we're stuck. The first thing to be done is to repeal the 2nd amendment as obsolete--and it's been so since Congress passed the bill giving our nation a standing army. In one of the most astoundingly devious ploys of American history, the Right has turned the 2nd on its head and promulgated the bullshit that the amendment was put in place to safeguard citizens against the Federal Government.
Timeto call out these so-called journalists publicly and in court! Where is the ACLU on this?
That is a dangerous precedent and goes far beyond any question of "does anyone NEED an AR-15"? Today it is mislabeled "assault weapons". After the Oklahoma City bombing it was fertilizer. We have antihistamines behind the pharmacy counter and tracking devices on our telephones and cars. We have warrantless spying on a scale that makes the Nixon Administration look like a high school electronics project is a daily fact of life. "1984" seems almost quaint nostalgia by comparison with 21st century America.
Does anyone believe it will stop with "assault rifles"? Did it stop with the PATRIOT Act? Did it stop with the war in Iraq? The latter should be a fine illustration: anything can demonized and violent action against it justified by government. And who knows what will be next?
But I don't support banning them. I used to support gun control until I realized the problems facing inner-city neighborhoods. In many inner-city neighborhoods the police cannot and/or will not do their job. In some cases the police are corrupt.
I think that gun rights are civil rights. People have a right to defend their homes and well-being.
But I also don't believe in the absolutist NRA approach either. Background checks, psychological screenings, preventing felons from getting guns, and improving are mental health system are reasonable approaches. Banning guns isn't.
Thanks for showing us your true colors. What a narrow minded thing to say. I usually hear these things from small town folk who have don't know about inner city life.
Ever lived in the inner city? I doub it. I do and always have. Most people don't own guns. You know who does? The bad guys and they were purchased illegally through the black market.
I am really in awe that you have this warped mentality of what our neighborhoods are like. Understand its people before you make broad statements like those.
The crap you keep spouting sounds EXACTLY like the white rambo wannabes I run into who talk about what they'd do if they ever ran into the people who actually live in those neighborhoods.
You don't have to point out how people die in our neighborhoods. Have you had friends die before the age of 18 by gang related gun violence? I can tell you haven't. I have had at least 5 friends die that way. I've seen people die on the street before I even made it to my first class one morning when I was in middle school.
On another occasion a stray bullet aimed at my neighbor went through our living room window barely missing my dad's head 12 inchs.
I've had the privilege to visit Detroit a couple of years ago and also D.C. and Baltimore.
I can go on and on. I'm a Mexican- American and I am college educated. Sorry to break your idea of me as a white rambo who pretends to live in the inner city or maybe you find it hard to believe that us "minority" inner city folk can really break the mold. I know this is a shock to your white suburban sensibilities, or is it Midwestern sensibilities?
I had no idea the price of admission to these forums was presenting proof of address.
I grew up and still live in a neighborhood where law enforcement not long ago had a shady reputation. Ever seen the movie, "Training Day," with Denzel Washington? It was loosely based on the LAPD Rampart division and the corruption scandal of the 90's. That's my neighborhood right there. that's where I grew up.
Things have improved with the department since, thankfully, but crime is still an issue here. It is pretty lousy knowing that the bad guys have the weapons and citizens aren't equipped to have them for protection, especially when most are immigrants and can't legally own them.
I also find it interesting that often times law enforcement is all for citizens owning guns while those in Capitol Hill sit in luxury telling us it's bad for us.
The question is what did YOU do when Bush/Cheyney pushed their programs through. What did YOU do when the bodies began to stack up in Dover, DE? No, it seems your since of urgency, your sense of impending doom didn't become that urgent until America elected a BLACK President! Correct me if I'm wrong.
What did the so-called Democratic President do when elected in 2008? Did he move to repeal the Pat Riot Act? No, he worked to have it renewed in all its unconstitutiona lity and even made it worse. Did he work to repeal the ravages to FISA? No, he also renewed the Bush-era legislation that virtually gutted our protections. Did Obama prosecute AT&T and Verizon for illegally spying on us during the Bush years? No, he and the Democratic congress pushed thru legislation that retroactively immunized AT&T and Verizon, cutting the ground out from under those of us who were suing those bastards.
Then there's the NDAA of 2012 and 2013. The prosecution of Bradley Manning. The persecution of Aaron Swartz. On and on.
Wake the hell up. We've got a fascist monster in the White House -- same as we had before him.
THE PATRIOT ACT
They used to yell “commie”
at anyone who didn’t go along, didn’t agree
with them.
Who pointed at the meager share of bread —
the rancid walls, the urine-soaked stairs
People should have health insurance? social
security? Hmmph!
Better dead than ‘red’... !
Now they bed
down in the flag,
that last refuge of the dull
scoundrel
What — you think the government should keep its nose
out of your bedclothes?
not tell women whether or how to use their
bodies?
What — you think that
men
should have to pay
for every baby they
danced in a green bay
for, that it takes two
to do that baby-bottle tango?
Now they wallow
in the act
of patriot
wrap their butts in red, white
black and blue
are willing to give up, give in,
give away.
shred
the bill of rights for tinder
set that fire
to the mosque, the temple
however familiar,
or to that den of witches killing all
those ‘babies’ they can’t see to feed
or educate,
or frankly give a damn about
after
they’re born.
Ready to march off
someone else’s kid
to another war for oil
over a non-existent connection to a real
terrorist everyone seems to have forgotten
‘Either you’re with us,
or you’re with them thar’ terrorists.’
It’s a regular patriot
act.
When it comes down to it what I fear is not the government, it's the large corporations, especially the ones in the financial industry.
They are the ones that will decide the rest of your life, they can totally ruin your life. If they wanted, they can make you into world famous celebrity. Of course they will only do that if you play along.
Government is under our control via the ballot box, although that power is being slowly drained away. And do you know who has been draining that power? Not the lefties, not even the righties, its them aka they. Sorry, let me capitalize that, They. They, the mysterious group that always does stuff and says stuff. Did anyone ever say "Did you see They put in a new drugstore down the street" or "They say that everyone is wearing green this year". Sure you have, we all have.
They are the corporations that own us, own all the information there is to be known about us. And They love it e=when you blame the government, because that way They remain nameless.
Know your enemy.
The sad thing is that, until some crazy unbalanced person actually hurts someone or kills people, nothing will be done. And even then the media will give the likes of Sarah Palin, Sharon Angle, Hannity, Glenn Beck, and conservatives a free pass.
I just wonder what the media would do if a Democrat or someone like Michael Moore uttered talk of secession or indirectly called for violence against conservatives or Republicans. The media and Republicans would demand immediate apologies. And mainstream Democrats, out of a desire to sound "reasonable", would apologize and denounce them for it.
So important to support alternative media, like RSN and other liberal sources.
The crazy guy who shot Gabby Gifford, (who is a representative, not senator).. hates government, why did he want to shoot all the other innocent people too??? He is mentally ill and would have shot many,many more if he had had a bigger clip.
He was not overpowered until he tried to add another clip, which is why these mega clips must be kept in the military. Just as armor piercing bullets are strictly for killing enemies in war.
In civilian life policemen are pretty much the only ones using bullet proof wests. So armor piercing bullets should also be for military use only.
The majority of Americans think so too.
I completely agree with you, but guess what?.....the people in congress, who SHOULD represent and protect us......are COWARDS.
They fear loosing their seat if they vote for assault Weapons band!! And it is so MUCH MORE important to them to STAY in congress than doing the right thing and TRY to protect you, me, and our little children.
THEY ARE DESPICABLE CREEPS AND SHOULD ALL BE THROWN OUT, IF THEY WILL NOT ACT...FOR US
You are right of course, in my frustration I did paint with too broad a brush. It IS mainly republicans who are obstructing.
But unfortunately, there ARE also democrats who do not want to give up the assault weapons, either because they like these killer weapons, or because keeping their seat is more important than doing the right thing and try to keep us safe.
Notice genierae, I said throw them out...
IF....they will not act for US, and I still mean that.
Today, there's no where to turn for care. The right has stripped funding for the mentally ill, human services and education. One more failed policy thanks to the right.
Many families have sons or daughters with serious mental problems, you say that you don't understand, why they don't get the help they need???? .......They don't because THEY MAY NOT HAVE ANY HEALTH INSURANCE. No insurance!!.... NO HELP.... So we ALL pay, When these troubled people lose it and kill a lot of totally innocent people,
Some have insurance, but many cuts are being made to the health care and unfortunately the MENTAL health, gets too many cuts.
When ST Reagan was governor in California. He shut down all the mental hospitals, and the poor souls were out in the streets.
There was SUPPOSED to be out patient treatment for them,.....but alas....very little funding. And there will be a lot more cuts made,....very soon.
We can NOT WAIT for the mental care to kick in.
So for STARTERS we SHOULD outlaw the assault weapons and the mega clips. The violent video games and movies, must also be addressed, in simple self defense.
They just need to be patient till they can move in and pick up the pieces.
Also....There are not enough psychologists and psychiatrists in this country to treat all the crazies....and heaven help us, they are heavily armed.
People like Hannity and all the others with too big microphones, are dangerous and UNPATRIOTIC, for they are encouraging unstable people WITH guns to start insurrection.
And the republicans sure need psychiatric help too, for they think it is good to destroy our economy...Inste ad of getting our people back to work and fixing the economy that THEY DESTROYED, under Bush
The public has to be prepared to support and back him up if and when the right continues ratcheting up false hysteria.
For 30 years, the right has used Nazi techniques for taking over the US. Going after unions that fight for fair wages and benefits for workers...and that fund Democratic politicians and causes; attacking women's rights and targeting specific groups, such as gays, blacks and again, women, playing them against others to demonize and turn them into the 'other'; taking over the mainstream media to control the message, spread propaganda and lies...all with the goal of taking permanent control of the US and the US government.
With psychopaths running one of our two political parties, do we really think it can't happen here???
The right continues ginning up racism and violence through propaganda and projection. We really can't afford to just sit back and watch them. Don't understand what it'll take to get people marching to demand change.
then watch the final episode to air Tuesday, Jan. 16.
You will notice the striking similarities to then and now, and an embedded southern culture.
Arkansas-based Walmart is a shining example of modern-day slavery. The company grows based upon an economic labor model that thrives at the expense of humanity's inability to thrive. It's the 'keep them stupid, scared, dependent and desperate' model.
Don't worry. There will be no rebellion or secession. These right wing loonies are dependent on the government. Most of them are receiving social security or medicare. But I do wish they were not just blowing off steam and would leave. Personally I really do not like them. they are racists and war mongers. They shojld form a separate nation. They can call it the Confederate States of America.
But it is really all about the money. All of these AM hate radio rebels are making millions of dollars a year. It is just like WWE -- every day is a new smackdown of Obama and the cash just rolls in.
1) It's an excuse for attention grabbing;
2) It's an excuse to be openly racist and not have to pay any price because "All is fair in war" and politics is war;
3) When they are around shrieking and screaming the sky is about to fall, it boosts their ratings;
4) It helps of amalgamate the Right under the same banners of nuttiness and to continue the propagandist brainwashing;
5) It's telling the lies over and over again trying to embed them as truths;
6) It is how the Right moves the Left farther Right (because the Left will bend Right trying to disprove their crazy lies instead of doing the correct things in spite of the Right-wing crazy rhetoric.)
Personally, I think people like Limbaugh and Hannity should be imprisoned for life for treason and sedition. They think nothing of destroying the country that gave them everything...ro tten low life.
Chicken Little was a cool, calm and collected creature when compared to any right wing pundit.
'tyranny' is a lot like 'beauty': Its in the eye of the beholder, and is as likely to come from the Right as from the Left. Either way, it can easily lead to World War!!
Frankly, I don't think it will happen.
Piers Morgan?? Arrogance, and nobody likes a wise-guy - NOBODY. He is quite bright and at times likeable....but he was devoured on the public stage by Ben Shapiro. To Morgan's credit, he did invite Ben on to the program instead of avoiding him.
Over 80% of the voting Americans disapproved of congress and yet voted back in over 94% of Congress. As dangerous as the administration' s socialism is, and as stupid and intransigent as both parties of Congress are, the real dilemna for our nation is a voting bloc that re-elects those kinds of people. Should we write, "HUH?" or "DUH?"
I am waiting for a Republican leader, like Boehner and Cantor to tell these idiots, like Hannity to cut it out.
Hell will DEFINITELY freeze over before that happens...They are in cahoots!!
http://youtu.be/ARMoJ-9G68k
The guns-at-all-cos ts faction would have us believe that firearms are our best defense against creeping fascism. For them, there is no other way to deal with that or any other problem. However, the best defense Americans do have against tyranny and government overreach is an involved and ever vigilant citizenry. I guess it's just easier to go buy a gun than to take the time to invest oneself in becoming better informed. Guns are not power but a symbol of fear and weakness. Knowledge is the true power.
We have a winner!!!
I was wondering how you managed to get 16 approvals this far down in the commentary.
Glad I stopped to read what you had to say.
The projection you mention is absolutely a dead tip off for what is really going on in a paranoid delusional mindset. I just can not see the extreme right in any other light. Unless they are just playing to the delusional tendencies in the minds of their listeners. If that's the case then they are far more devious and dangerous than I thought.
As for accusing Obama of being Hitler, that's an effort to distract the public from the fact that it is they who are well schooled in Hitler's propaganda techniques. President Bush himself admitted the style when he said that "if you say things over and over people will believe you." Hitler's propagandists promoted this effort and more. Hitler would be very please at the conservative propagandists in this country. I don't have time to copy out a quote from Hitler's writings about his propaganda technique. I might later. One of the things he stated was that the people are stupid and easilly manipulated to defend efforts against their best interest.
The very idea that Americans have been convinced to believe that gun ownership and freedom to walk into a theater or school to kill in mass is more important than the lives lost is an example of Hitler's propaganda success. So the next time you hear a conservative telling you that Obama is Hitler or Stalin it is they who aspire to be them.
But I don't really expect that kind of reaction from gun owners. They seem so rational, so concerned about the good of the people, and not at all red-necked. Or trigger happy.
Gun crazy, talk of revolution when your side doesn't win an election, fear for the life of your child when he/she leaves for home in the morning, lies told to justify invasion of Iraq... looks like a failed society to me.
Amazing. I really don't think Obama is out to support myths of Ayran supremacy and conducting a "final solution" against Jews. Rather, that's more to the extreme right. And it appears that the right side of the political spectrum is meshing more and more together.
As for "gubberment," I recall that southern state governments, in particular, had their own tyranny, their own final solution when it came to being afflicted with a superiority complex, and wanting extermination of the "Other," except for slaves since the latter were the "backbone" of the "genteel" economy; now, it is evident among righties across the nation, in a form that is becoming more simplistically B/W.
"Big gubberment?" I would be just as leery about state governments who want to turn the clock back to "happier times."
From the ordinarily rancid mouth of Scalia: "We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. Miller (an earlier case) said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those “in common use at the time”. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’" Are assault rifles "dangerous and unusual weapons?" I'd say yes.
And one more thing- a lot of the liberals (I'm some kind of Marxist) on here are reacting with the same reactionary hate and acrimony exhibited by conservatives. Use your knowledge of the facts, not emotional rhetoric. A lot of these issues are pretty nuanced and can't be reduced to simplistic rants.
I think this is not a good time to be sidetracked by the gun control issue.
I do not believe that gun control is the issue of the time, the issue of the time is who owns America and what rights do the people have? Until this is worked out I think gun control ought to go on the back burner.
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