Excerpt: "Mr. Assange is not an American citizen, and none of his actions have taken place on American soil. If the United States can prosecute a journalist in these circumstances, the governments of Russia or China could, by the same logic, demand that foreign reporters anywhere on earth be extradited for violating their laws. The setting of such a precedent should deeply concern everyone, admirers of WikiLeaks or not."
The British government has the right under the relevant treaty to prevent Mr. Assange's extradition to the United States from Sweden, but has refused to pledge that it would use this power. Ecuador's attempts to facilitate that arrangement with both governments were rejected. (photo: Time Magazine)
WikiLeaks and Free Speech
21 August 12
e have spent our careers as filmmakers making the case that the news media in the United States often fail to inform Americans about the uglier actions of our own government. We therefore have been deeply grateful for the accomplishments of WikiLeaks, and applaud Ecuador's decision to grant diplomatic asylum to its founder, Julian Assange, who is now living in the Ecuadorean Embassy in London.
Ecuador has acted in accordance with important principles of international human rights. Indeed, nothing could demonstrate the appropriateness of Ecuador's action more than the British government's threat to violate a sacrosanct principle of diplomatic relations and invade the embassy to arrest Mr. Assange.
Since WikiLeaks' founding, it has revealed the "Collateral Murder" footage that shows the seemingly indiscriminate killing of Baghdad civilians by a United States Apache attack helicopter; further fine-grained detail about the true face of the Iraq and Afghanistan wars; United States collusion with Yemen's dictatorship to conceal our responsibility for bombing strikes there; the Obama administration's pressure on other nations not to prosecute Bush-era officials for torture; and much more.
Predictably, the response from those who would prefer that Americans remain in the dark has been ferocious. Top elected leaders from both parties have called Mr. Assange a "high-tech terrorist." And Senator Dianne Feinstein, the California Democrat who leads the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, has demanded that he be prosecuted under the Espionage Act. Most Americans, Britons and Swedes are unaware that Sweden has not formally charged Mr. Assange with any crime. Rather, it has issued a warrant for his arrest to question him about allegations of sexual assault in 2010.
All such allegations must be thoroughly investigated before Mr. Assange moves to a country that might put him beyond the reach of the Swedish justice system. But it is the British and Swedish governments that stand in the way of an investigation, not Mr. Assange.
Swedish authorities have traveled to other countries to conduct interrogations when needed, and the WikiLeaks founder has made clear his willingness to be questioned in London. Moreover, the Ecuadorean government made a direct offer to Sweden to allow Mr. Assange to be interviewed within Ecuador's embassy. In both instances, Sweden refused.
Mr. Assange has also committed to traveling to Sweden immediately if the Swedish government pledges that it will not extradite him to the United States. Swedish officials have shown no interest in exploring this proposal, and Foreign Minister Carl Bildt recently told a legal adviser to Mr. Assange and WikiLeaks unequivocally that Sweden would not make such a pledge. The British government would also have the right under the relevant treaty to prevent Mr. Assange's extradition to the United States from Sweden, and has also refused to pledge that it would use this power. Ecuador's attempts to facilitate that arrangement with both governments were rejected.
Taken together, the British and Swedish governments' actions suggest to us that their real agenda is to get Mr. Assange to Sweden. Because of treaty and other considerations, he probably could be more easily extradited from there to the United States to face charges. Mr. Assange has every reason to fear such an outcome.The Justice Department recently confirmed that it was continuing to investigate WikiLeaks, and just-disclosed Australian government documents from this past February state that "the U.S. investigation into possible criminal conduct by Mr. Assange has been ongoing for more than a year." WikiLeaks itself has published e-mails from Stratfor, a private intelligence corporation, which state that a grand jury has already returned a sealed indictment of Mr. Assange. And history indicates Sweden would buckle to any pressure from the United States to hand over Mr. Assange. In 2001 the Swedish government delivered two Egyptians seeking asylum to the C.I.A., which rendered them to the Mubarak regime, which tortured them.
If Mr. Assange is extradited to the United States, the consequences will reverberate for years around the world. Mr. Assange is not an American citizen, and none of his actions have taken place on American soil. If the United States can prosecute a journalist in these circumstances, the governments of Russia or China could, by the same logic, demand that foreign reporters anywhere on earth be extradited for violating their laws. The setting of such a precedent should deeply concern everyone, admirers of WikiLeaks or not.
We urge the people of Britain and Sweden to demand that their governments answer some basic questions: Why do the Swedish authorities refuse to question Mr. Assange in London? And why can neither government promise that Mr. Assange will not be extradited to the United States? The citizens of Britain and Sweden have a rare opportunity to make a stand for free speech on behalf of the entire globe.
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ASSANGE IS A WHISTLEBLOWER. THE SEX CHARGES ARE OBVIOUSLY TRUMPED-UP BECAUSE
YOU WILL NEVER SEE A "SHE-SAID-HE-SAID"
"rape" case in court. THAT IS BECAUSE
YOU CAN'T PROSECUTE WITHOUT EVIDENCE.
SHAME ON ENGLAND AND SWEDEN FOR THEIR PART IN THIS TRAVESTY OF JUSTICE. THE SHAME OF THE US IN THIS MATTER GOES WITHOUT SAYING.
As to freedom of speech, freedom of the press, and the rights of citizens to make inquiries that pertain to their own and everybody else's health and safety, Mr. Assange should be able to have his rights.
This is the only real point, and of course the government says it is to protect the victims.
I don't know, and neither do any of the rest of you, but it ought to be a clue that assange has some issues even if it is just being rough or rude enough to at least two of the women he slept with to get to them inquire legally about what their rights were.
assange also never did deny anything in the media either or call these trumped up charges ... although he is correct when he says it is a witchhunt.
assange ought to to have the sense not to get himself into these circumstances with women, if he actually did anything.
we do not know, but i would be equally bothered by a high-profile lefty being given a free pass to commit crimes as i would a koch brother or anyone else.
assange got himself into this, and he needs to get himself out of it. i applaud the ecuadorian embassy for at least sheltering him while this is played out.
This, as noble as it sounds, does not vindicate President Obama as CIC, for his callous crimes against innocent women and children.
Actually, in Obama's defense, my suspicion is that shortly after the inauguration each new POTUS is taken to a building in DC by people who aren't officially on any payroll, to a room that doesn't exist on any floor plan. Once there they are informed of the "real" situation in the world, who "really" is the power in the world, and what will happen to the new POTUS and/or his family if he doesn't play the "game."
All that is needed to make the point is an explanation of what "really" happened to JFK.
Obama minced his words very carefully, and in his mind at least in the words he has said about it he is consistent with the mood and values of the country - that is why he is more or less popular even though he has not gotten a whole lot done because of these Republican games.
Even if he is re-elected I doubt he will change his stands on any of his decisions or efforts.
Farmer's reference to JFK is spot on. It's no coincidence that Kennedy was assassinated six weeks after he proposed a complete withdrawal from Vietnam. The CIA and MIC weren't going to let such a withdrawal happen.
Really ... and how do you know this, or are you and ex-President or something? I think you have been watching too many movies.
Clearly you are not much of student of history either. What I alluded to has been a common occurrence throughout history. Example: most, if not all, of the monarchies during the ascendency and domination of government by the Roman Catholic Church during the Middle Ages. Those old boys all got told what the real story was after their coronations.
Studying what happened to those who didn't play along with the Church makes for some interesting reading. There really is nothing new under the sun, our technology is what makes it all really a little more frightening. These sort of "behind the scenes" machinations have been going on for thousands of years.
But, yeah you're right, just me and my little tin foil hat talking.
The difference between JFK's time and the present is people like Assange who can ferret out the truth and spread it via the internet. That all-seeing eye the gov't is so fond of using against us citizens works both ways.
I would love to see 9-11 reopened.
I suspect the conversation went something like, "go piddle with domestic social issues and leave the rest to us. We'll tell you who to appoint for what"
Anyone on this board remember this event. I have spoken with several people over the years, but only a handful of people remember this incident.
the Stockholm DA. The opposite is true, the Swedish authorities hid from him.
took over and is gung-ho to put Assange in prison for a good long time. It's ridiculous. Imagine a case
in which a damaged condom in a plastic bag is the main piece of evidence! Nobody knows what happened
in those bedrooms - nor should they. Assange tried several times to see the prosecutors when he was in Sweden - no luck, they avoided him. Now the entire media is solidly against him, day after day. They're trying to sweep the entire first month of this thing under the rug. For example, one of the women had an article online where she gave advice to women how to frame their men/husbands. That was on the Web BEFORE the Assange accusations were made. Also, the first woman went to a crayfish party with
Assange the day after she was supposed to have been raped by him. Neverthless, if he's delivered to the Swedes he's in deep trouble. The Swedish prime minister, Carl Bildt, was on the board of directors of Rand Corporation, he is deep in Washington's pockets. A sneaky bastard whom you can't trust as far as you can throw him..."
there is something fishy in these charges, but i do not believe in attacking the victim of these things. the fact is that assange did break the law or sweden.
from what i heard the women did not want to even press charges against him, but also did not want him to be able to continue his pattern without doing something.
lots of women are put in situations like this and it is not for you or me to decide it that is rape or not.
assange apparently has problems with women. you notice how no women spring up to say what a nice guy he is? no personal character references, not a one.
this should not be used as a an excuse for political harassment though, and it is complicated to separate the two.
He didnot care who was doing the War Crimes he would have exposed all and should
If Journalists in Media of any type had the backbone to actually do their stories, told their knowledge, We would no be arguing about who to Vote for. We would have a real Candidate to Vote for.
Monkeys are all the News are. They do small stories but nothing to catch one's interest. No better than the dime store publications with headlines and no beef.
http://blogs.jpost.com/content/carl-bildt%E2%80%99s-belligerence
It looks as if the setting and springing of the Swedish honey trap has been the subject of complex tugs of war between Stockholm's closed doors, and it may not be fully played out even now. The better elements in Sweden may yet end up forcing a face-saving backdown.
Meanwhile, note that Australia House in London is within walking distance of the Ecuadorian Embassy - what does it say of the Australian Government that an Australian whistleblower has to seek the protection of Ecuador instead of Australia?
It is , quite, the other way around.
Lies and cover-ups, obviously hiding depraved intentions and actions, are really the Elephant in the Living room threatening both our Way of Life and personal safety. Threats upon 'truth-telling' are a 'standard' tactic of Bullies, Mafioso-types, and Other (Government) Shamefuls who refuse to admit their own Dirty Laundry and will go to any length to see that others do not see, take note, or refute such M O.
And 'We, The People' stand by, like fools, sheep before the slaughter, whilst the brave amongst us are corralled and slaughtered by these thugs we dare to call 'Our Representatives '.
Feinstein is my representative, and this really makes me sad, especially since it makes no sense.
If Assange assaulted these Women then perhaps Ecquador would be the better place to have him tried in front of these women.
If he is into game playing, although not cool but instead a real need for help. It is not ours to judge. But to allow him to continue is not any better than killing women and children.
It is strange how we judge others for rape, killing but would allow Assange to get away with it because of his expose. Lil bit of Judge and Jury yourselves. See that is why the black and white always gets shaded grey...everyone has there opinion....
1) Why do the Swedish authorities refuse to question Mr. Assange in London?
2) And why can neither government promise that Mr. Assange will not be extradited to the United States?
The arguments that Assange is a hero or doing good work should not matter in that it should allow him to be a sexual predator if he does not good humanitarians work to balance it ... that is not the point here.
Yes, it seems like there is an effort to get Assange.
Yes, it seems like Assange has some issues with his sexual relationships.
One point we do not know is how common these kinds of sexual complaints are of men who are powerful or in the public light. It can bring someone down or it can cause what are possible crimes to go away.
As someone who admittedly does not know, given the relative fuzziness of the situation and the political overtones, this should have been over and done with a long time ago and seems to be being carried along in order to intimidate or harass assange.
Anyone who cannot see this for what is is, a ramrod, might not be capable of being a Senator.
I hope that Assange, somewhere has a bigger document bomb and he drops to make the Brits and the Swedes and Washington back off.
Freedom of Press allows him to put what he wants on Air. People take cell phone shots of people and put them everywhere and that is illegal. Unless we start arresting everyone Assange took information and showed us what We Allow Military to do.
Rape, I do not like anyone using Rape. If these women were Raped, they deserve their day in Court. If they were paid or pushed into convicting someone for Rape they are exactly what Republicans want to have happen so that Rape becomes legal. After all their kids probably get away with it and worse, the victims take the money That too has not changed.
Predators can size up people...everyo ne has a price to them
The problem is much older than that. Check out 1928 and the Cienga, Columbia banana massacre courtesy of United Fruit and the US government.
I need somone to answer something for me. I am neither Dem or Repub. I don't dislike Obama but neither do I like him. He lost my positive opinion when brought in economic advisors from the very sector that took down our economy. Compared to Bush's serial blunders, I see nothing comparable. Obama's jobs, jobs, jobs initiatives have been stonewalled by the House, House, House. What is it that Obama has done that has earned him the seething emnity of the right? I don't need to hear about the crime of being Black while president. Obamacare did it? Extending healthcare using a Republican governor's model? I'm going to rip the tongue out of the next person that talks about his birth certificate. McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone. Romney's dad was born in a polygamist community in Mexico established by the grandfather who emigrated so that he could have multiple wives. I truly don't get it. I don't consider Obama a Democrat. He is what moderate Republicans used to be. So was Clinton. Is it just because Obama actually has room in his mind for something besides corporations? Wall St. has turned on him and let the fox in the hen house. Your thoughts please.
That said, this country has never healed or removed the attitudes that resulted in the Civil War. Much of what is happening is the result of the underlying ugliness that has always existed in this country.
Sorry kids but the myth of American "exceptionalism " is just that, a myth. There are many remarkable things about this country but until we truly become what we claim to be, the hate, prejudice, narrow mindedness, and ignorance continues to diminish what we have the potential to become.
The blind and ferocious hatred the Right has towards Obama is just a symptom of our national malaise.
But does anyone else find it conspicuous and strange that these authors have omitted naming Obama as one of the chief moving forces behind these efforts? Does anyone think that W's name would have been omitted if it were his administration pushing for the extradition and trial and punishment of a journalist for doing his job extremely well?
As much as anyone, I love Michael Moore for the work he's done over the years exposing greed and bigotry and criminal irresponsibilit y by our most powerful politicians and businesspeople. But Obama's role in the persecution of WikiLeaks has been blatant and shameful, and election year or not, it's inexcusable for Moore and Stone to pull their punches as they've done here.
I do not appreciate them discussing the supposed rapes, like thy might not have been.
If Moore and Stone want some Changes maybe they should start in the USA with the Media, Congress, Republicans. With their money they can do investigations and start a dosier on all of Congress and Senate. Let see Moore and Stone do a Clean up on DC.
Assange took information like good Journalist of the Past, Woodwards etc and ran with it. It is too bad Journalists of TV and Papers did not stand up for his rights. Exposing what Wikki exposed is exactly what is missing in the World today.
Rape...Take him to Ecuador and try him...
If the Victims are truly Victims let them show their Bank Accts. But I believe there are two problems both evolve around the Truth. It is time we and Assange stops avoiding that.
Rape is a Crime. Exposing War Crimes is not. Hitler and his crimes were exposed now we condone Nazi behavior?
Perhaps the rest of the info is not interesting like "that" video, , but in event that Assange does get brought to the US and imprisoned, I seem to remember a thinly veiled threat to release more damning evidence of official misdeeds on the part of a few governments.
You really don't understand the concept behind a democratically elected representative republic do you? What you describe is that of an autocratic totalitarian regime. Of course that is what we're headed towards at an increasingly rapid rate.
I like and support RSN, but these are interesting articles - not investigative journalism.
I see another group - Gawker has published some of the Romney offshore information. Much more of this is needed especially information on the backroom negotiations of the large corporations, of backroom negotiations between politicians and lobbyists.
It is about time that the hypocracy and lies are exposed. If those Diplomats and Officials had not said such boorish and stupid things and done things behind the backs of other countries, the publication of such documents would not have been a problem.
Shanti
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