Boardman writes: "Scalia's concerns are manifestly racial, if not racist. He uses the phrase 'racial entitlement' and repeats it, not only for emphasis, but to argue that this racial entitlement to voting is a reality."
Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia at Wesleyan University in Connecticut, 03/08/12. (photo: AP)
Is Scalia a Troll?
03 March 13
Why does Justice Scalia hate the Constitution? And is he a troll?
15TH AMENDMENT TO THE U.S. CONSTITUTION
[Ratified February 3, 1870]
Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.
ongress's 2006 renewal of the 1965 Voting Rights Act was the subject of 76 minutes of oral argument before the U.S. Supreme Court in February, although Associate Justice Antonin Scalia, 77, gave the impression that he thought the legislation was really called the Voting Entitlement Act.
Early in the hearing on a frequently non-compliant Alabama county's appeal of the Voting Rights Act, Scalia tried leading Alabama's counsel into agreeing to a specious conclusion by citing the 1965 Senate vote of 79-18 to pass the act, compared to the Senate's 2006 unanimous 98-0 vote to renew the act.
"It must have been even clearer in 2006 that these States were violating the Constitution," Scalia said. "Don't you think that's true?"
"No," said the Alabama counsel, "I think the court has to --"
Associate Justice Elena Kagan, 53, interrupted, tongue in cheek: "Well that sounds like a good argument to me, Justice Scalia. It was clear to 98 Senators, including every Senator from a covered state, who decided that there was a continuing need for this piece of legislation."
"Or decided that perhaps they'd better not vote against it," Scalia answered, "that there's nothing, that there's no -- none of their interests in voting against it."
Justices Avoid Discussing Psychic Powers
"I don't know what they're thinking," said Associate Justice Stephen Breyer, 75, as he changed the subject from Scalia's speculation based, apparently, on retrospective, paranoid mindreading of those voting Senators in 2006.
But Scalia was back a few minutes later, this time trying to lead the government's counsel, Solicitor General Donald Verrilli: "You could always say, oh, there has been improvement, but the only reason there has been improvement are these extraordinary procedures [the Voting Rights Act] that deny the States sovereign powers which the Constitution preserves to them. So, since the only reason it's [voting non-discrimination] improved is because of these procedures, we must continue those procedures in perpetuity."
Verrilli: "No."
Scalia: "Is that the argument you are making?"
Verrilli: "That is not the argument. We do not think that --"
Scalia: "I thought that was the argument you were just making."
Verrilli: "It is not...."
Chief Justice John Roberts Jr., 58, jumped in here to state that Massachusetts "has the worst ratio of white voter turnout to African American voter turnout," but that the best ratio is in Mississippi. It wasn't clear what point he was making.
Massachusetts Rebuts Roberts's Slur
Roberts's assertion was apparently false, according to Massachusetts secretary of state William Galvin, who commented on WBUR radio on March 1:
"I'm disturbed, first of all, that he is distorting information. You would expect better conduct from the chief justice of the United States. I'm a lawyer, he's a lawyer, lawyers are not supposed to provide disinformation in the course of a case. It's supposed to be based on truth.
"What's really distressing is the deeper we looked into the facts, the more of a distortion his comments are. The only reference that we can find of any kind in any statistical chart is a Census Bureau study from 2010 where, if you included non-citizen blacks, then you would come up with a lower number. That's the only way he could get to even make the bare-face claim that he made."
Roberts later asked Verrilli, "Is it the government's submission that the citizens in the south are more racist than citizens in the North?"
"It is not," Verrilli said, going on to add something fuzzy about "congruent and proportional" - rather than just pointing out that it's irrelevant how racist your feelings are, constitutionally, as long as you're allowing all citizens an equal opportunity to vote.
Does Scalia Want to Pre-empt Congress or Not?
Moments later, Scalia was back making the contradictory argument that began: "This Court doesn't like to get involved in -- in racial questions such as this one. It's something that can be left -- left to Congress."
After reciting a brief legislative history, Scalia returned to his concern that the Voting Rights Act had passed with so little opposition in 2006, leading up to the remarks that have since earned him such widespread, mostly hostile comment:
"Now, I don't think that's [the favorable vote] attributable to the fact that it is so much clearer now that we need this. I think it is attributable, very likely attributable, to a phenomenon that is called perpetuation of racial entitlement. It's been written about.
"Whenever a society adopts racial entitlements, it is very difficult to get out of them through the normal political processes.
"I don't think there is anything to be gained by any Senator to vote against continuation of this act. And I am fairly confident it will be re-enacted in perpetuity unless -- unless a court can say it does not comport with the Constitution. You have to show, when you are treating different States differently, that there's a good reason for it.
"That's the -- that's the concern that those of us who -- who have some questions about this statute have. It's -- it's a concern that this is not the kind of a question you can leave to Congress. There are certain districts in the House that are black districts by law just about now....
"Even the name of it is wonderful: The Voting Rights Act. Who is going to vote against that in the future?"[emphasis added]
Scalia Opens Constitutional Confrontation with Congress
In the space of a minute or two, Scalia argued that (1) racial questions like the Voting Rights Act should be left to Congress and (2) that renewal of the Voting Rights Act "is not the kind of a question you can leave to Congress." But he doesn't acknowledge that inherent contradiction, never mind make an attempt to explain and resolve it.
Why not?
Perhaps because "There are certain districts in the House that are black districts by law just about now...." which is factually false and seems to reveal the kind of irrational fear that rarely comes in the form of concern over "white districts by law," even though white districts are far more common and numerous than any other kind of district.
Scalia's concerns are manifestly racial, if not racist. He uses the phrase "racial entitlement" and repeats it, not only for emphasis, but to argue that this racial entitlement to voting is a reality, and that it's "difficult to get out of" ... and implying that the country should get out of it, even if that takes the Supreme Court to tell the Congress what it should have been thinking seven years earlier. And there's a certain specious appeal to Scalia's argument, especially to those who would prefer to see racist politics work without having to think of themselves as racist.
What's specious at the core of Scalia's riff is his characterizing voting rights as "entitlements." Voting rights are rights, unless one wants to go down a logical path that would also disenfranchise women because their right to vote is really just a "gender entitlement."
What Does the Supreme Court Owe to Reality?
Scalia sketches a legal and political wonderland in which as many as five justices may be wandering, untethered to the reality in which most of the country continues to live. In that reality, the Congress made a factual record before voting to renew the Voting Rights Act in 2006. That record included some 20 hearings and 15,000 pages of evidence, all of which supported the conclusion that, while the country has made progress under the Voting Rights Act, voting rights in America remain subject to frequent abridgement or denial.
Responding carefully to Scalia's desire to correct Congress's earlier state of mind, Solicitor General Verrilli said:
"I do -- I do say, with all due respect, I think it would be extraordinary to -- to look behind the judgment of Congress as expressed in statutory findings, and -- and evaluate the judgment of Congress on the basis of that sort of motive analysis, as opposed to --"
At which point Scalia interrupted to make a distinction without much difference: "I'm not talking about dismissing it. I'm -- I'm talking about looking into it to see whether it makes any sense."
Shelby County, Alabama, which initiated this challenge to the Voting Rights Act in 2010, is both a recent and chronic offender, where state legislators were caught on tape referring to African American voters as "illiterates" and "aborigines." Shelby County lost its case in federal district court and lost again on appeal. Even the dissent in the appeals court decision acknowledged that "It goes without saying that racism persists," and later added:
"None of this [dissent] is to suggest that the country need for a minute countenance deliberate voting rule manipulations aimed at reducing the voting impact of any racial group, whether in the form of restrictions on ballot access or of boundary-drawing."
Justice Sotomayor Counterbalanced Scalia's Views
Early in the oral argument, Associate Justice Sonia Sotomayor, 59, noting the flawed voting rights record of both Shelby County and the state of Alabama, commented to the Alabama counsel, "You're asking us -- to ignore your record and look at everybody else's." She continued, getting little response:
"... there's no question that Alabama was rightly included in the original Voting Rights Act. There's no challenge to the reauthorization acts... It's a real record as to what Alabama has done to earn its place on the list....
"Discrimination is discrimination. And what Congress said is it continues, not in terms of voter numbers, but in terms of examples of other ways to disenfranchise voters...."
Reinforcing this point, Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, 80, pointed out that the dissent in the district court decision had said, "If this case were about three States, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Alabama, those states have the worst records, and application of Section 5 [of the Voting Rights Act] to them might be okay."
Near the end of the hearing, Sotomayor directly asked Alabama counsel, "Do you think that the right to vote is a racial entitlement in Section 5?"
Alabama counsel side-stepped, referring to the Fifteenth Amendment to the Constitution. Sotomayor tried again: "I asked a different question. Do you think Section 5 was voted for because it was a racial entitlement?"
When Alabama counsel still gave no direct answer to the question, Sotomayor asked a related question: "Why do you think we [the Supreme Court] should make the judgment, and not the Congress, about the types and forms of discrimination and the need to remedy them?"
Again, Alabama counsel had no direct answer, but after a minute or so of meandering, he said: "I think the problem to which the Voting Rights Act was addressed is solved...."
Alabama Counsel Avoids Giving Direct Answers
Moments later Justice Kagan came back to that: "You said the problem has been solved. But who gets to make that judgment really? Is it you, is it the court, or is it Congress?"
Alabama counsel, after brief banter: "... it is up to the Court to determine whether the problem indeed has been solved and whether the new problem, if there is one --"
Kagan, jumping in: "Well, that's a big, new power that you are giving us, that we have the power now to decide whether racial discrimination has been solved? I did not think that that fell within our bailiwick."
Alabama counsel immediately denied he'd meant what he'd just said, Justice Breyer spoke up to smooth things over, and the hearing was soon over.
Associate Justice Anthony Kennedy is widely thought to be the swing vote in the case, deciding whether it was constitutional for Congress to extend the Voting Rights Law to address a problem it found still existed, albeit in sometimes new forms. Kennedy was active in the hearing, but his comments were far less pointed than some of his peers, although at one point he asked about applying the law to all the states and not just the ones with an overt record of voting rights discrimination.
But Kennedy also inquired, in effect: How is Shelby County hurt by the formula in the law when the county's record of voting rights discrimination would be caught by almost any rational formula?
Although Associate Justice Clarence Thomas, 65, has benefitted from the Voting Rights Act, as well as actual racial entitlements, perhaps more than any other justice, he had nothing to say during the hearing.
So Is Justice Scalia Just Being Provocative?
In the midst of initial reaction to Scalia's comments about the "perpetuation of racial entitlements" and other jibes, MSNBC commentator Rachel Maddow compared the justice to an internet troll. Maddow, who was in the audience for the Supreme Court's oral argument February 27, appeared as a guest on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart the following day, where she said: "It's weird to see Antonin Scalia in person. It's weird."
Then she explained, with a little mindreading of her own as to what the mindreading justice was up to with his choice of words:
"... it's not a real vote. It's a racial entitlement now. Voting is a racial entitlement, something that you are entitled to on the basis of your race.
"Wait a second. Do you know how that sounds?
"But I think he does know how that sounds, and that's the neat thing about being there in person because you can see oh, actually, he's a troll. He's saying this for effect.... He knows it's offensive and he knows he's going to get a gasp from the courtroom which he got. And he loves it.... He's that kind of guy."
Is he that kind of guy? Is he a troll?
It's possible he goes out of his way to offend, given Scalia's behavior over the years. But if he's just "saying this for effect," he'd be likely to end up voting to uphold the constitutionality of the Voting Rights Act. Anything's possible.
But if he's not "saying this for effect," if he's saying things because he means them, then it's more likely that he'll vote to hold that the 1965 law has outlived its constitutional expiration date. That, too, would be consistent with his behavior over the years as something of a racist royalist whose divination of the Constitution's original meaning might well include the realities that non-whites were mostly slaves, and voters were all white male property-owners.
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Time for term limits and a recall provision.
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and when the stupid faux reporter Kelly on Fox said he & the other justices have to vote their 'conscience' when they make decisions she doesn't have the faintest idea what the purpose of SCOTUS is! they are to deal with facts not their personal beliefs! she is a fooletta...
Probably only got through it because her father was on staff there and she was a legacy. OTOH, bad lawyers don't get to work at Jones, Day. But good lawyers can also be fools and at least it wasn't Liberty Universith she went to. 8^)
Hmmm..... a challenge. Well, she IS kinda CUTE ! That may have helped.
No term limits - that would be like throwing the baby out with the bath water - we need to keep the good, objective ones as long as possible! (Especially if they are left of center(but not to much))
We need a simple method of firing justices who show, by their aberrant rhetoric and actions(both in the court and out), that they are no longer suitable for the position they hold.
http://www.wanttoknow.info/electionsfraud
Another notable Votescam criminal can now be found sitting on the bench of the highest court in the nation. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, while still a Federal Appeals Judge, single handedly destroyed what would have been an historic lawsuit filed against Justice Department lawyer Craig Donsanto, who had refused to prosecute the extensive vote fraud evidence brought to him by the Colliers. The evidence included videotape of the League of Women voters tampering with ballots in a close door vote "counting" session. The women were illegally punching holes in already cast ballots.
For requiring the candidates to actually debate something meaningful, instead of standing up there like empty-headed morons, the LWV decided to no longer lend its prestige to the pretennce they were debating.
Good for the LWV. Too bad the national bipartisan majority of voters followed their bipartisan 'leaders' into that stupidity. Now they only pretend to be leading anybody anywhere, when in fact the have cooperated to lead us all into a steadily stagnating, imploding, non-governing paralysis.
And the bipartisan majority of voters can only cheer them on as we all are forced thereby to to follow them into more stupidities that we can count and explain compellingly.
Good grief, your comment is not dripping sarcasm,....it is running all over the place. What did you want the LWV to do?? They obviously can not dictate anything to the presidential candidates and their "handlers", THEY, the handlers, are the ones deserving your contempt.
They are scared stiff that any kind of honesty should creep into the "debates" And I certainly would not be party to that farce either, which is why LWV pulled out. I was a member of LWV a few years ago and they absolutely ARE non bias.
They are not 'PRETENDING to lead anybody anywhere". They inform voters about measures on the ballot, the issues and where the candidates stand, leaving the VOTERS to decide which candidate's views they agree with. So PLEASE hold the MISPLACED sarcasm.
Bush Sr. appointed his puppet, Clarence Thomas.
Two valid reasons those two presidents were among the nation's worst.
His latest perversion--cal ling the Voting Rights Act an "entitlement"-- shows his vicious ignorance of history. People of color were being beaten, savaged, and slaughtered when they tried to vote--criminals were crushing a fundamental right that serves as the foundation of our nation. His words disgrace the truth, our memory of that truth, and the courage of countless magnificent souls who stood up to such deadly, criminal suppression and opposition. Through his words he spits on their graves and all they stood for.
We need people of wisdom and social goodness on the supreme court. Not vicious racists who twist and pervert history. Obama, put someone on the court who will intellectually stomp this bastard.
He did. Sonya Sotomayor.
Thank you for calling a spade a spade. Your comment is spot on. Scalia and Thomas ARE bastards, who sure do NOT belong on the highest court of the land.
We also KNOW they are tools of the Koch Bros. and other powerful trolls. They take part in the Koch's secret "covenants" in Palm Springs. That should be illegal. and we remember how Scalia was cozy with Cheney.
They sure are NOT impartial, as judges MUST be.
A: Yes. Need you ask?
This is the same man who gave us the "quack quack" bon mot. Brilliant legal mind that.
And, of course, we hear nothing from St. Thomas.
"Citizens United" was calling B and S ??
NO it was BS and is destroying the country with all that, now totally out of control corporate money.
Roberts is a shill for the big corporations, and the wealthy, that is who he is going to protect at any cost. Being the Chief Justice, makes him a lot more dangerous, than Scalia
When I heard his statements while I was driving home from work this Friday, I was literally shaking in anger so bad I had to pull over. That a jurist in our highest court in the land could be such an overt racist filled me with a rage I have not felt in a long while. This is a sad indictment on how terrible our SCOTUS has become, and future generations will likely consider it one of the worst in our history relative to the time it existed.
Like Dimwits, he is too easy to make a mockery of -almost with every snide remark that falls from his big ,ever-flapping trap but I appreciate that this article includes some arguments from some of the other members which, apart from Roberts' puerile interjections, give us some light into a few thinking minds on the super-bench.
"Uncle" Thomas is, of course silent after briefly breaking a four-year hiatus from utterance with an incomprehensibl e phrase of "sound and fury signifying nothing" -without the sound and fury; that's Scalia's role, still signifying nothing but given credibility by his falsely elevated status and a general populace that has been led so far down the path of non-reason that it just ignores it all or goes along, like it's soundbyte, content-starved -directors, the US owner-media (I know, I know, I'm always hammering on them but it's all related and very valid if you look at the foreign press in this light).
BTW, what's the general definition of a "Troll" here?
I tend to look at Tolkien's model from his novel "The Hobbit", that a Troll is a largely dim-witted creature who devours the flesh of unwary creatures including humans, lives in a cave during the day and turns into the solid rock it was originally culled from if exposed to sunlight.
So following that model, I guess we have a current Congress full of 'em, led by the Tea Bag Super-Trolls -and come to think of't, the NRA too, what?
The slippery slope is Scalia's POV. I remember that my great- grandfather, Italian, was told he had to pay to walk on the sidewalks in New York, usually by an Irish Cop.My great- grandfather was considered what is now called a person of color in those days.
And as with Prohibition a new Amendment would have to revoke the previous Amendment and I can only imagine how that would read.
Even their Supreme Court Justices are apparently on board that one.
But, of course, it doesn't stop with racism against the African Americans. It never stops, even with race.
It is pure white apartheid they want. And we all may be getting it.
The task of the Supreme Court is to rule on whether a law (or enforcement of same) violates the United States Constitution. Nothing else. Editorializing is supposed to be left at the door.
Now, it seems, that whole party, starting with Rush Limbaugh, has no loftier goal in mind than to elicit a rise from the other side.
Well, they succeed with me and here's my rise for today. What is it you want, people? No government because all government is bad? Will we wear loincloths and hit each other over the head for our food?
Will "conservatives" live in medieval castles and pour boiling oil on anyone who comes up to the walls?
Weeper of the house Boehner stated today that all Americans know that we need to cut expenses. I do? Did austerity work in Europe? Should we keep a good household budget-- is that what he means? And apply that notion to the whole country? How quaint! Have Republicans had a single workable idea in the last 10 years?
Can we de-construct this phrase or headline: DITTOHEADS' PUTRID VERSION OF KUMBAYA SWELLS UP TO HEAVEN?
Oh well, I only have 197 symbols left. Another time.
The "troll" appellation came to Scalia by way of Rachel Maddow on the Daily Show. There may well be other applications of the term to Justice Scalia, but I'm not aware of them.
As I understand Maddow's usage, it is a metaphorical application of a metaphor. The first metaphor being the internet "troll," an inherently pejorative usage referring to the deliberately unpleasant and probably insincere presences one may come across in chat rooms, etc. Maddow applies this metaphor to Scalia metaphorically, even suggesting that he doesn't mean what he says.
Make of it what you will, Scalia is still the guy who took communion, then came out of church to flip off his critics (the exact gesture is in dispute, it's meaning not so much).
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1604059/posts
In theory, the people should benefit and the checks and balances should root out unfair practices.
Unfortunately, in practice, we see a culture of 'beholden' bought and paid for representatives and appointed justices.
A transparent election process is key to a functioning democracy. Period.
We have three branches of government to ensure this transparency. Let's hope Kennedy gets it right.
If they were not looking to do so, why would they ever have elected for the court to take the case - especially one from a county which, over the last ten years, has not been able to bail out under the law (ie.avoid having its voting manipulation tactics overturned by the Justice Dept).
For Roberts is has been a 30 year plus effort to tear down the Act. As Chief Justice of the SCOTUS he sees this as his last opening to do so.
Indeed, based on his history relative to the ACT, Roberts should recuse himself from the case. But the ethics of the law when it comes to recusing one's self means nothing to the likes of Scalia or Roberts.
So Roberts gets to interject untruthful, irrelevant supposition (re: MA). Scalia gets to make racially negative, activist judge comments (re: the law is a racisl entitlement and the court not Congress should make decisions on this subject) as his arguments.
Then there is Thomas who cannot help but lap at the feet of the party who put him on the court.
These judges are doing all they can to stir up racial animosity to justify their ruling.
Roberts will go down in history as the Chief Justice who worked tirelessly to encourage and support the dismantling of the Voting Rights Act.
From this perspective, Scalia is just another cheesy provocateur, a troll, if you will, in the Rush mold, and, like Rush, his concern is entirely with the success and victory of his political team whatever the goals. In pursuit of that, he has no shame.
The Fourteenth covers everyone when it says "no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States" and adds "nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Voting is a privilege.
Section 5 gives the power to Congress to enforce the provisions of the amendment through legislation so it could outlaw any thing any state does to make voting harder for any group of people than it is for other groups.
That means lines at an urban polling place must not be inordinately long compared to those at an affluent suburb. Each polling station must have the same number of voting machines as it relates to the number of registered voters.
Get with it Congress and outlaw the dirty tricks Republican state politicians have done to make voting harder, if not impossible, in Democratic areas. Make voting a protected activity nationwide. Put some teeth into voting laws and require mandatory jail time for some of these haters of democracy so it is they who will never vote again.
And there is a difference.
Privileges are rights in which government has some oversight; immunities are rights in which government has no say. Many of our problems are that those in government or the general population can't tell the difference.
Examples:
A prisoner has the immunity right of his own religion but he doesn't have the privilege right of owning a gun.
Opening a business is a privilege because government has some regulatory power. Buying at any store you wish is an immunity because government cannot regulate that.
Voting is a privilege, who you vote for is an immunity.
By not knowing the difference we have government intruding into what should be immunities, such as: a woman should have the immunity of managing her own pregnancy (no government wanted), choosing your lover or marriage partner is an immunity, displaying patriotism or lack of such is an immunity, what we inhale, ingest or insert into our bodies should be recognized as an immunity. There are many more that I don't have time or space to mention.
The Fourteenth Amendment sets this out very clearly when it says no state can make or enforce any law abridging the privileges and immunities of citizens of the United States.
And voting in a free, transparent election is a right.
A transparent election process is key to a functioning democracy. Period.
Translation: legislators are just too intimidated by the n-----s and n-----lovers who have taken over the land. It takes us justices to come to the rescue.
Ouch!
He is FAR more dangerous than Adam Schwartz(was)Br adley Manning, and Julian Assange!
a : the state or condition of being entitled : right
b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract" (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/entitlement), the word does not refer to privilege; it refers to rights. Just as we all are ENTITLED to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, we, as citizens of this country, are all ENTITLED to vote in its elections--with out having to fight restrictions clearly aimed at certain ethnic, economic or political groups.
This has got to rank among the most ignorant statements made by a federal judge, not to mention a Supreme Court justice.
An Amendment (starting with the first ten, the Bill of Rights) sets down in THE CONSTITUTION, the near-absolute RIGHTS the PEOPLE grant themselves AND the limits such Amendment imposes on our Government. It is up to the COURTS to enforce such Amendment when either the STATES or the US Congress overstep their powers in this area. The Constitution is NOT "self-enforcing ." Sworn judges assume the professional obligation and responsibility to stand up and speak for this social contract and the rights of the individual. Ordinarily, judges do so by declaring a law either Constitutional or else one that violates the Constitution and strike it down.
If Scalia is not up to the task because he dislikes getting involved in "racial questions" the man can do one of two things: he can recuse himself or, better yet, resign and let a real judge assume responsibility for making a reasoned analysis and making the tough decisions. Heck, I volunteer to replace the man.
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