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Adams writes: "Republicans worship a Nazi Jesus, not the Christ of the Bible. They picture a Jesus bearing a sword riding a white horse to slay millions of unbelievers. Revelation is where they lay claim to the view, but the Gospels' depiction must be discarded in order to arrive. A judgmental 'God' justifies a judgmental following. Thus, it's condoned to hate and kill gays, Muslims, aliens, liberals, and all others not of their belief-system. Jesus' Number One principle must be suspended in order for them to condone bigotry: 'Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength; and love others as you do yourself.'"

Thousands attended 'The Response,' a religious event organized by Republican Gov. Rick Perry in order to pray for God to help save America: 'a nation in crisis,' 08/06/11. (photo: Brandon Thibodeaux/Getty Images)
Thousands attended 'The Response,' a religious event organized by Republican Gov. Rick Perry in order to pray for God to help save America: 'a nation in crisis,' 08/06/11. (photo: Brandon Thibodeaux/Getty Images)



Republicans Worship a Nazi Jesus

By Loren Adams, TPJ Magazine

19 December 11

 

ow you view God is how you see man. An individual's concept of "God" determines how one treats others. The same principle applies for a culture, nation or movement. If one envisions a vengeful, wrathful superior being, wrath and retribution are levied against "others" outside the "chosen." The religion justifies prejudice with all its ugly manifestations: verbal abuse, theft, deceit, injustice, violence, and the ultimate - "final solution." Religion was the foundation for Nazism which gave birth to Holocaust.

This is another law of human nature oft overlooked - which coincides with Voltaire's cardinal truth: "People who believe absurdities will soon commit atrocities."

It is a massive cult gripping America spinning it to hell. The current gridlock has its roots in right religion. Remove the religious right's powerful influence over America, a measure of sanity may return. Imagine a world without religion, as found in John Lennon's lyrics:

Imagine there's no heaven

It's easy if you try

No hell below us

Above us only sky

Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there's no countries

It isn't hard to do

Nothing to kill or die for

And no religion too

Imagine all the people living life in peace

You, you may say

I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one

I hope some day you'll join us

And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions

I wonder if you can

No need for greed or hunger

A brotherhood of man

Imagine all the people sharing all the world

You, you may say

I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one

I hope some day you'll join us

And the world will live as one

I am not stating all religion is bad, because it's in human nature to invent such philosophical mindsets as a security blanket for an torrid unexplainable existence. I'm just saying the distorting of Jesus' image and words is the sacrilege that destroys individuals and nations - or, for that matter, the perversion of other revered theological figures.

America's religious right loathes the concept of a Jesus who speaks of humility, meekness, generosity, compassion and sacrifice. Somehow these virtues de-masculinize the Messiah. And Republicans loathe a feminized Jesus, because humble characteristics are feminine, in their view.

Nazis had the same distorted reasoning in that the Jesus of the Gospels didn't fit their ideology. So they had to mold "God" into their own image, culminating in a Holy Bible re-write of 1938, approved by the Fuhrer, which were loaded with anti-semitic passages.

Republicans worship a Nazi Jesus, not the Christ of the Bible. They picture a Jesus bearing a sword riding a white horse to slay millions of unbelievers. Revelation is where they lay claim to the view, but the Gospels' depiction must be discarded in order to arrive. A judgmental "God" justifies a judgmental following. Thus, it's condoned to hate and kill gays, Muslims, aliens, liberals, and all others not of their belief-system.

Jesus' Number One principle must be suspended in order for them to condone bigotry: "Love God with all your heart, mind, soul, and strength; and love others as you do yourself."

But in their view, this cardinal command must be set aside for the End Times prophecies to be completed - when a wrathful, vengeful "God" re-appears to annihilate the billions. This eschatological element is what drives America's religious right to insanity and what is driving America off the cliff - since the religious right is such a significant segment of society. The culture war is here and now, and it has its roots in religion - albeit counter to Jesus' teachings.

America's religious right needs to return to its "first love."

 

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+29 # coffeewriter 2011-12-19 15:49
While I agree with the author about the idiocy of (extremist) religious views, I'm not sure on what information he(?) bases his statement that "Religion was the foundation for Nazism which gave birth to Holocaust [sic]".

The Nazis were mostly very anti-Christian, and of course anti-Semitic. While some promoted an aggressive, militant Christianity, most of the history between the Nazi party and the church was fraught with tension and mutual mistrust.

Martin Bormann (private secretary to Hitler) "believed Nazism was based on a "scientific" world-view, and was completely incompatible with Christianity Bormann stated:
When we [National Socialists] speak of belief in God, we do not mean, like the naive Christians and their spiritual exploiters, a man-like being sitting around somewhere in the universe. The force governed by natural law by which all these countless planets move in the universe, we call omnipotence or God. The assertion that this universal force can trouble itself about the destiny of each individual being, every smallest earthly bacillus, can be influenced by so-called prayers or other surprising things, depends upon a requisite dose of naivety or else upon shameless professional self-interest." " - Wikipedia

This is not to say there aren't similarities between, say Glenn Beck and Adolf Hitler. But I'm not sure they're completely religious associations.
 
 
+73 # PGreen 2011-12-19 17:26
Though I have little fondness for the later (especially) writings of the late (atheist) Christopher Hitchens, he had some interesting things to say about Nazism and the Catholic Church. He has some insights here:

"The way I put it is this: if you're writing about the history of the 1930s and the rise of totalitarianism , you can take out the word "fascist", if you want, for Italy, Portugal, Spain, Czechoslovakia and Austria and replace it with 'extreme-right Catholic party'.

Almost all of those regimes were in place with the help of the Vatican and with understandings from the Holy See. It's not denied. These understandings quite often persisted after the Second World War was over and extended to comparable regimes in Argentina and elsewhere."

It is certainly true that particular figures in the German Nazi Party disliked religion, and Hitchens admits that German Nazis were "all mixed up with Germanic myths about superiority," which certainly colored their perspective on Christianity. (Didn't the Nazis approve an anti-semitic version of the Bible?)

I believe that religion (and Christianity) is by and large a force for good ethical behavior. But here is no denying that institutionally it can go wrong, or be distorted and misused by unscrupulous officials.
 
 
+37 # Artemis 2011-12-20 01:46
It seems that Christianity, Judaism, and Islam have gone massively wrong within certain groups, corrupting and distorting the original teachings, which are forcefully interpreted in ways that can be called fanatical and fascist. Hate, superiority, intolerance, propaganda, dissemination of misinformation, fear of the other, mistrust, and racism (all symptoms of behaviour in Nazi Germany in the thirties) are evident in these radical forms of so-called religion. It is truly depressing to see how youngsters are brainwashed, easily then following their role models in behavior that is quite frightening.
Invasion of the Body Snatchers" reminds me of these groups - no comparison to individuals who follow the teachings of kindness, generosity, love and respect for others.
 
 
+30 # John Locke 2011-12-20 07:12
Religion is used and abused, different groups use it to generate a following and from that following money and power, for Hitler the religious right helped to bring him to power, and they were the same element that leads the religious right here in America, different people, different time but the same crackpot theories. any extreme is hazardous to the health of a nation!!
 
 
+35 # John Locke 2011-12-20 07:20
I would add that the bible is not the work of "god" but of man, and is a story book that attempts to give us guidence. it is written in symbolic stories mostly that never really happened, for example the old testiment stories of Moses, there is NO evidence such a man ever lived...and the new testiment, it was created by Augustine at the counsel of Nicea many writers were excluded form the bible because they did not convey the message that the Emporor of Rome and the Bishops wanted their followers to believe...the book was created with the code of justice accepted at the time, which included stonings and homophobic phobias, perhaps this is where those phobias that these people have today stem from...
 
 
+1 # lobdillj 2011-12-20 05:22
Take a look at http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/hrj/iss16/gunn.shtml#Heading60.

I think you are taking a specific definition for the term "religion" that is not necessary to an understanding of the message in this piece.

To argue about the definition of "religion" is a diversion in this case.
 
 
+14 # kyzipster 2011-12-20 06:42
I don't believe a person or organization has to be religious in nature to be influenced by religious prejudices that dominate a society. Jews were subjected to centuries of persecution in Europe prior to Nazism by both the Catholic Church and protestant religions. Hitler himself was influenced by this history, it helped to justify his own views. The Nazis used the anti-Semitic writings of Martin Luther in their propaganda.

I'm not putting the struggle for equal rights by LGBT people in the US on the same level as the Holocaust but it's a good comparison for this discussion. A gay basher might be an atheist but is still influenced by the anti-gay propaganda that's produced by the religious right.
 
 
+39 # maddave 2011-12-20 07:18
Right & wrong, coffeewriter!

For example, take present-day America where we have a church on nearly every corner: Every hack politician invokes God somewhere in his speechs and invariable asks God to bless America as his closing remark. This group includes people who hate gays & minorities; promote wars; destroy civilizations (eg, Iraq); install and support egregious dictators worldwide; institute torture and whose works generally pander to several of the baser instincts of man . . . And in all cases they "believe" that God is on Our Side.

You don't think that - in their hearts of hearts - these ubiquitous charlatans, regardless national or political stripe - give a big rats ass about any religion other than mammonism, do you?

There are exceptions such as Jimmy Carter, and look what WE did to him.
 
 
+14 # reiverpacific 2011-12-20 09:04
"coffeewriter"; You are right to a certain extent but the Nazis used (especially) the Catholic church and some collaborative priests in a manipulative sense to advance their hold on that part of their target demographic -like so many other institutions both religious and secular, until they had served their purpose, then ruthlessly discarded or destroyed them.
There was also a deep Wagnerian mystical element in Nazism (unlike Mussolini's pragmatic "Corporate State" Fascism and Franco's Church dominated medievalist version) which led them to believe that they were the heritors of Valhalla with it's perceived Teutonic "look" and aggressive, even fanatical physicality (although Hitler and his henchmen were all physically insignificant nonentities) and thereby their patriarchal superiority, whilst the female was relegated to a meekly supportive "hausfrau" and birthing machine for breeding young, preferably blonde, God-like creatures.
What I'm getting at is the generally perceived vision of a blonde, blue-eyed hippie-looking fantasy Jesus by not just the Repugs but the "average" Americans they manipulate so successfully.
It's all very much in the name of seeking power over others and forcing the symbols thereof down their throats.
I wonder if the likes of the Koch Bro's, Boehner, et al watch "Christmas Carol" or the "Little Drummer Boy" with any emotion but "Bah-Humbug"; I mean, the ancient message is hardly "Lassez-Faire", what!?
 
 
+11 # Erdajean 2011-12-20 11:37
Much agreement, reiverp. But may I clarify ONE thing: This old slop of linking Wagner to Hitler is just that -- the slop of half-knowledge. If one can't invest about 17 hours in seeing or hearing Wagner's much-accused "Ring of the Nibelung," then please find a decent synopsis and see where this epic was going -- with its "Teutonic" blonde heroes. It was going, precisely, where OUR tragic follies of lust, greed, hatred,deceptio n and fallen morality are taking us this very day.
What HAPPENED to the Teutonic gods and their Valhalla? Read to the end, my friends. The whole mess was destroyed, for its evil, by the one honorable and decent person left -- a WOMAN -- who went into the fire herself, to clean up the earth of every vestige of the gods and their perfidy.
Though not the sweetest man in history, Wagner, dead many years before the rise of Hitler, would have HATED the jerk. And the Nazis would have murdered Wagner.
The last scene of the Ring is the best depiction I know of, of Republican sentiment. The burned world is flooding, the arch-villain Hagen is drowning. His dying words: "Give me the RING!" Still after all the wealth and power, in his last gurgle!
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2011-12-22 18:33
Quoting Erdajean:
Much agreement, reiverp. But may I clarify ONE thing: This old slop of linking Wagner to Hitler is just that -- the slop of half-knowledge. If one can't invest about 17 hours in seeing or hearing Wagner's much-accused "Ring of the Nibelung," then please find a decent synopsis and see where this epic was going -- with its "Teutonic" blonde heroes. It was going, precisely, where OUR tragic follies of lust, greed, hatred,deception and fallen morality are taking us this very day.
What HAPPENED to the Teutonic gods and their Valhalla? Read to the end, my friends. The whole mess was destroyed, for its evil, by the one honorable and decent person left -- a WOMAN -- who went into the fire herself, to clean up the earth of every vestige of the gods and their perfidy.
Though not the sweetest man in history, Wagner, dead many years before the rise of Hitler, would have HATED the jerk. And the Nazis would have murdered Wagner.
The last scene of the Ring is the best depiction I know of, of Republican sentiment. The burned world is flooding, the arch-villain Hagen is drowning. His dying words: "Give me the RING!" Still after all the wealth and power, in his last gurgle!

Absolutely -no argument. Hitler used R.W. like he used everything in his bent perception of what was "Truly German".
Current parallels are obvious. My personal view of Wagner is that of Mark Twain: "(His) music isn't as bad as it sounds"!
 
 
+10 # Kootenay Coyote 2011-12-20 09:43
Nazis dominated German churches & held their own pseudo-Nordic cult beliefs: that's 'religion'.
 
 
+45 # DaveM 2011-12-19 21:02
Christian fundamentalists worship the same God as Muslim fundamentalists . They just put slightly different words in his mouth, and presume He is a white Republican.
 
 
+2 # mwd870 2011-12-21 05:35
Perfect statement for a placard in an Occupy action. Unfortunately, it would have about as much effect as arguing politics.

I like aznvlefty's quote as well, though I wonder how many different ways a fundamentalist would *literally* interpret these words?

"You cannot serve God and wealth (Matthew 6:24)."
 
 
+36 # wrodwell 2011-12-19 21:20
The First Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;....... " It's clear that no religion or cult should assume primacy or attempt to manipulate an exception to this injunction even though the contrary is currently being practiced by politically active Christian fundamentalists in concert with the agenda-constipa ted Republican party. The "free exercise thereof" indicates that one can "practice" one's religion as long as one does not meddle in or try to influence secular politics or society at large with belief-based religious dogma. By thus respecting the First Amendment, society will be spared an unhealthy dose of fascistic self-righteousn ess. Once a religion adopts an active fundamentalist outlook, doctrinaire fatalism and irrational rigidity lead to frightful intolerance. (The contemporary examples that come to mind are Iran's and Saudi Arabia's theocracies.) It would be better to relieve human beings of all religious tyrannies in order for our species to follow the paths of rational humanism and sanity.
 
 
+16 # PatriotPaul 2011-12-19 22:10
These folks are PLIFs*


*People Living In Fear:

A reference to conservative or fundamentalist followers of any religion that leads them to be fearful of any questioning of their religious doctrine or to be open to creative, new ideas. Because psychologically fear is such a crippling emotion, psychologically healthy people tend to try and control and recognize this in themselves. Those who don't tend to rely on more dictatorial or authoritarian leaders whether they be in the form of a political leader or their own chosen God.
 
 
+15 # wwway 2011-12-20 09:33
Fear is the purpose of religion. The simple message of Jesus isn't enough of a purpose.
 
 
+36 # CL38 2011-12-19 22:16
"People who believe absurdities will soon commit atrocities."... It is a massive cult gripping America spinning it to hell."

Just as the right distorts religion for its own demented purposes, it's also remaking and reinterpreting our laws and Constitution for the benefit of corporations and the rich, at the expense of the middle class and poor.

The religious distortions go hand in hand with the intentional destruction and distortion of our laws and Constitution.
 
 
-45 # n7ekg 2011-12-19 22:23
This is complete libel - to paint all Republicans with a broad brush is idiotic and libelous.
 
 
+23 # Jim Rocket 2011-12-20 10:19
I don't hear any Republicans speaking out and denouncing the toxic effects of the twisted Christians. Can you point us to a prominent Republican who who stands against this?
 
 
-40 # justAnotherPinko 2011-12-19 22:29
The title of this piece is so hysterically over the top that it makes me think that the author is possibly just as goofy as his subject. A title like that would be great for a bit of performance art, but I support this site in order to get news. Journalism. Something rational, you know... This is neither art nor journalism. It's a rant.
 
 
+12 # CCB5er34 2011-12-19 22:31
Amen, I agree, either that or everyone be a Unitarian, a general seeking non-creedal system, where people can beleive what they want and agree to disagree. As for me, I just believe in the Golden Rule, and what I feel God is, which is a positive force of energy. That's about it.
 
 
-4 # Okieangels 2011-12-19 22:41
This is news???
 
 
+20 # ccccostello 2011-12-19 22:56
Karen Armstrong's book, The Bible,(pp 155 - 158 gives a clear history of it's origins and speaks of how anti-Semitic the Christian right is 'In the USA, Protestant fundamentalists had evolved the Christian Zionism that was paradoxically anti-Semitic. The Jewish people had been central to the 'Rapture' vision of John Darby. Jesus could not return unless the Jews were living in the Holy Land. Support for Israel was mandatory. But Darby had taught that the Antichrist would slaughter 2/3's of the Jews living in Palestine in the end time, so fundamentalist writers looked forward to a massacre in which Jews would die in ghastly numbers.67 She goes on about the Re constructionist 's beliefs that there is a 'tight relationship between wickedness and poverty'. She goes on to say 'they have produced a religious version of militant capitalism.74
 
 
+38 # wwway 2011-12-19 22:58
Do you have to be a Republican to be a Christian or a Chrsistian to be a Republican? Yes and yes.
I grew up in the Baptist Church and spent the first few years of my adult life as the wife of an evangelist and participated in the rise of Jerry Falwell, James Dodson and others who have led the movement to invade politics. Michelle Bachmann and I came from the same religious education. I left that scene in 1976 with a prediction of a future that has certainly come true for the church, the Republican party and the demise of civil liberties. If the Democratic Party had embraced the religious right I'd be a Republican.
The Jesus I was taught to beleive in was most certainly a liberal in the context of his time and is still a liberal today. Jesus doesn't exist in the church and hasn't for most of it's history.
I'll complete my thought with something a young German soldier said to his grandmother about his opposition to Hitler's final solution. It was in a novel I read. "You don't kill God to take his place."
 
 
+9 # Erdajean 2011-12-20 11:05
[quote name="wwway"]Do you have to be a Republican to be a Christian or a Chrsistian to be a Republican? Yes and yes.

OH, HELP! Quite the contrary, I fear it is IMPOSSIBLE to think like a current-day Republican and believe one word of the Gospel of Jesus Christ, other than "and" and "the."
All we need do is read the four Gospels and the Book of Acts (New Testament, mind, most of which the Right has yet to discover) to find the Right-Wing Religion a total, disgusting mockery.

Wasn't it G.K. Chesterton who said, "it is not that Christianity has been tried and found wanting -- but that it has never been tried." Interestingly, whatever creeds are actually represented, after Gandhi the OWS folks most closely exemplify the teachings of Jesus. And they WILL prevail.
 
 
+29 # cherylpetro 2011-12-19 23:14
I have long noticed the hypocrisy of the so-called, "Religious Right" and find them highly distasteful! If what they do is inextricably linked with the term "Christianity" then I want nothing to do with it! Many of the people, like Huckabee, Perry, Palin, etc, claim to be Christian, hold prayer rallies, yet back groups in Uganda who are trying to pass a bill that will make being gay a death sentence (and a death sentence to anyone who knows a gay person, but who fails to turn them in). THAT kind of thinking doesn't even sound REMOTELY like the Christianity of Jesus! Now I find it repugnant to hear people profess their Christian faith, because I fear the terrible deeds it is hiding behind that cover! When did it become so necessary to wear your religion like a badge? Hmmm, I guess the Nazis did force some to do that; didn't they?
 
 
+31 # aznvlefty 2011-12-19 23:15
You cannot serve God and wealth (Matthew 6:24).
 
 
+12 # racetoinfinity 2011-12-19 23:31
See Ken Wilber's work for developmental Levels of the Sacred as iterated by man from caveman days to now, and how those levels (essentially from religion to agnosticism/ath eism[the death of the mythic God]-to-Spiritu ality) have unfolded in history and how they unfold in individuals. The right-wing are stuck back on medieval (or worse, ego-warrior of wrath-a magical culture level) a pre-rational mythic membership level (mindset); they're basically fighting the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. The Sacred is expressed through Spirituality in the Return and Reunion of The Feminine into a greater whole, and in Love and Unity as well as truth and justice. It's too bad Christianity has not developed (power and repression have thwarted it) to the higher stages externally on a large scale socially, in churches, although there are exceptions such as Unity and the Unitarian/Unive rsalists, as Buddhism and Vedanta have. The options to mainstream Americans is to either dive below your rationality or be an atheist and a materialist (unless you discover yoga and Buddhist meditation). We need a higher, deeper, bigger Christianity.
 
 
+24 # klondikekitty 2011-12-19 23:47
I don't need to compare the religious views of the Republican Party to those of Hitler and the Nazis . . All i have to do is go to my Bible to see how they have distorted religion to fit their radical agenda . . John 3:16, 17: "For God so loved the world (that means EVERYBODY in the whole world, not just the people who agree with them) that He gave His only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. God did NOT send His Son into the world to condemn it, but that THE WORLD through Him might be saved." Or how about Luke 6:35,36? "Love your enemies! Do good to them! Lend to them! And don't be concerned that they might not repay. Then your reward from heaven will be very great, and you will truly be acting as children of the Most High, for He is kind to the unthankful and to those who are wicked. You must be compassionate, just as your Father is compassionate." But the best of all is Jesus' answer to the teacher of religious law, recorded in Mark 13 (verses 30 and 31), who asked Jesus what He thought was the most important commandment from God: " . . . You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, all your mind and all your strength. And the second is equally important: 'Love your neighbor as yourself. ' No other commandment is greater than these."

How can the Republican Party say they are following divine directions from God when they ignore His own Son's words? How can they even claim to be Christians?
 
 
+17 # davehaze 2011-12-20 02:00
I can't remember the exact quote but Hitler said, As a Christian it is my duty to fight for truth and justice.

The Germans were for the most part Christians. Wasn't Hitler Catholic? Christians want to have it that the Germans all became atheists for the duration of the war and then magically back to God-loving Christians.
 
 
-2 # Mirkka 2011-12-20 03:11
This writer is wrong. Nazism was anti-chistian and anti-catholic ideology, it's religious site beleaved in old german and even scandinavian pre-christian beliefs. Nazism persecuted catholics.
 
 
+12 # maddave 2011-12-20 07:46
Then why did they, like we, declare that God was on their side?
 
 
+16 # cvm79 2011-12-20 03:12
The KKK is a better analogy because it operates right here in America.

"Presidents who were members of the KKK:

President Warren G. Harding, President Woodrow Wilson, President McKinley, President Calvin Coolidge, and President Harry S. Truman.

Supreme Court Justice members: Hugo Black.

Other notable and downright important men were: President Warren G. Harding. He was actually sworn into the Ku Klux Klan in a Klan ceremony conducted inside the White House by Imperial Wizard Colonel Simmons.

President Woodrow Wilson and President McKinley were members of the KKK, little is known of their Klan membership however. There is at least one book that documents they were actual members, but it only mentions they were members, that's all. McKinley was a Union officer, but many Union men joined or affiliated with the original First Era Ku Klux Klan during the Radical Republican's anti-white Reconstruction Era. Union General Hardee was another Union man who later joined the Klan. President Wilson would have been a member of the Klan under the Command of Imperial Wizard Colonel Simmons.

President Calvin Coolidge was a noted Klansman and was well known to be an active member of the Ku Klux Klan. He allowed cross lightings on the Capitol steps and reviewed the giant Klan parades of 1925 and 1926 in Washington D.C."
 
 
+3 # Martintfre 2011-12-20 08:00
President Wilson had the first moving picture ever aired at the white house - the Birth of a Nation - a Klan's man propaganda piece ..
 
 
+8 # cvm79 2011-12-20 03:14
"President Harry S. Truman was a minor ordinary Klansman from 1920 - 1922. His two year membership was not notable and somewhat lacking. He eventually had a major falling out with the KKK over his desire to appoint RomanCatholics to key political positions; something which all of the KKK opposed at the time. Some Klans now not only accept Roman Catholics but actively recruit them. The true Ku Klux Klan is however traditionally and rightfully opposed to Roman Catholicism and Papists influence over America. President Harry S. Truman was currying favor with Roman Catholic voters and was more interested in his political career than the Klan or the good of America. He severed all ties with the KKK and openly repudiated them. They didn't call the arrogant upstart "give them Hell Harry", for nothing. His family has tired to deny his KKK membership ever since, but has failed miserably since it is a well established fact of documented history.

Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black was a Klansman, his Klan Robes complete with his name in them were found in an old Klan Klavern Hall in the 1960's. Unfortunately under intense political pressure he superficially repudiated the Klan during its notorious period of scandals."
 
 
+6 # cvm79 2011-12-20 03:14
"Gutzon Borglum the artist who carved Mt. Rushmore, Stone Mountain, and also did work on the base of the Statue of Liberty was a prominent Life Member of The Ku Klux Klan. He sat on the Imperial Koncilium in 1923, which transferred leadership of The Ku Klux Klan from Imperial Wizard Colonel Simmons to Imperial Wizard Hiram Evans. Later while under intense pressure and scrutiny, both public and media pressure worked their wicked results and he superficially repudiated The KKK."

The list continues:
http://kelticklankirk.com/KKK_Wizards_and_Prominent_Klansmen.htm

URL: http://able2know.org/topic/99462-1
 
 
-21 # Martintfre 2011-12-20 07:58
so Gutzon must of been a democrat - since the Klan was a democrat institution
 
 
+19 # Morris Townson 2011-12-20 03:37
Unfortunately, there is a young black man that just landed in Afganistan who is a "Nazi Jesus" believer. He brags that he is doing the "Lords Work" in wiping the entire race of Afgan Muslims off the face of the earth.

Remember: A good man will always do good, an Evil man will always do evil. BUT it takes religion to make a good man do evil.
 
 
+1 # maddave 2011-12-20 07:43
What does "black" have to do with your comment, Morris?
 
 
+1 # Martintfre 2011-12-20 10:06
//Remember: A good man will always do good, an Evil man will always do evil. BUT it takes religion to make a good man do evil.//

So when Atheist Stalin's purges killed about 36 million Russians or Atheist Mao's purges and cultural revolutions killed over 30 million that was not evil?
 
 
+11 # jabo13 2011-12-20 04:02
To paraphrase a couple of wise people: Evil is being against life and truth, in the guise of being for life and truth; all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

For "pro-life" conservative Republicans, life begins at conception and ends at birth, which tells you all you need to know about their love for their fellow men and their love of life and truth. And, sadly, many otherwise good people couldn't be less concerned about that.
 
 
+7 # thew 2011-12-20 04:12
ah, but they do love others as the love themselves. they just happen to loathe themselves
 
 
+5 # 666 2011-12-20 04:17
How about some facts and references here? Where's the argument? Just because you have an axe to grind doesn't mean you should write an article. If this article were a reader comment it would a) be too long, and b) probably get censored as too extreme by RSN - so why make it an article?

The author says "how you view man is how you see god"; it's probably more accurate to say: "how you feel about yourself, will be how you construct your god." "If you are disempowered and live in fear and insecurity, he will be probably be tyrannical and vengeful" "If you view yourself with peace & love, you are far more likely to believe in a god of peace & love"
 
 
+7 # maddave 2011-12-20 07:41
Religion and religious fervor are the products of emotion and logic, both of which are most often incompatible.
 
 
+13 # FrederickStecker 2011-12-20 04:36
I see the problem as one of "critical" vs. "uncritical" religion. In critical religion one applies knowledge of history, linguistics, archeology, sociology to get to (something like journalism's 5-w: who, what, when, where, why) critique of scripture. For students of critical religion scripture is always open to new interpretation, insights and learnings. Most main line religions train their students for mininsty in this method of discernment - scripture is tthe shared story of a people trying to understand the will of their God; scripture for them is "truth", not fact.

In uncritical religion, scripture is frozen in time and understood as the exact word of God. It contains what happened in the past as well as what will happen in the future - God said it, I believe it, that settles it! The fact that there are two creation stories, talking turtles, and the stoning of children doesn't seem to matter because it is the word of God and therefore true and contradictions to reason are beyond our understanding. Those who correctly understand scripture are self-selected. Fact is defined by them as their inerrant transmission of the literal word of God.

I am the author of The Podium, the Pulpit and the Republicans: How Presidential Candidates Use Religious Language in American Political Debate, an ordained Episcopal Minister of 40 years, and a student of the havoc caused by this divide.

Frederick Stecker
 
 
+9 # CandH 2011-12-20 04:42
This is refreshing to see on paper, as it is my local experience that this is in fact, most assuredly the case in a large swath of this group. Some would even go so far as to admit such a connection, but most are not well enough informed in history of Nazism to understand/comp rehend the spot-on similar Nazi-like behavior they exhibit.

This time of year their behavior can be especially egregious. Think "War on Xmas" mindsets permeating their views of all peoples not conforming to their idealized holidays notions, coupled with the aggressive proselytizing mindset, and one has an explosive combination of hate/bigotry/ag grandizement/su periority/egoti sm all wrapped into one brutish loud-mouthed American Christian during Christmas (although, when is a right-wing American NOT brutish really.)

I thank RSN for bravely publishing this honest piece, especially during a time of year when so many, outside the described fold, are annually so pummeled and demoralized by this gross behavior that surrounds them, that they just need a little "sane humanity check" like this piece to make it through until January when behaviors begin to quiet down to a tolerable level once again.
 
 
+5 # naomipinson 2011-12-20 05:00
The nazi's combined pagan mythology, Der Volk, with Social Darwinism, a misconstruction of Darwin's theory of evolution if there ever was one. Hitler was a meglomaniac who could never have put "god" or any ilk above himself. The article is interesting but seems truncated. While I believe there are some parallels between what is going on in the USA and what happened in Germany in the thirties, I think USA historical cycles of Great Awakenings fit better. I would be interested in a history that tracked these with political swings to the right or left.
 
 
+10 # michael.feikema 2011-12-20 05:16
It is necessary to trace the historical inversion of Christianity from a popular movement of non-violent resistance to the Roman empire to the state religion of the empire. This complete inversion in its social role involved turning the whole religion and its mysteries inside out and upside down. A utopian movement that de-legitimated empire and all forms of domination became the anti-utopian legitimation for the most violent and aggressive expansionism in history, at first the Crusades and later the Conquest of the Americas and the world.
The Latin American liberation theology movement was the beginning of a process of turning the dominant anti-utopian Christianity on its head by recovering the social core of the Christian tradition. It is a mistake to throw the bay out with the bath, that will only leave the inverted violent version of Christianity intact and dominant. In Latin America, there was and is a struggle over how the Christian mysteries are to be understood. In the US this has barely begun. Jesus occupied the temple in Jerusalem. The temple was the center of the religious, political and economic life of Israel. In the modern age we tend to be fooled by an undialectical conception of the sacred and the secular. Christianity has been displaced by the real religion of the present era, the religion of the market, but the inverted form of Christianity payed a crucial role in bringing this about and is an important support to its continued dominance.
 
 
-16 # pekinghomonculus 2011-12-20 05:21
Although I do believe that religion and the fanatics who use religion to have caused more war and death to people from the beginning of human history, I object to the use of inflammatory words to describe your opponents. You claim that it's conservatives who are intolerant and name call. I have seen more name calling here at this site than anywhere else. The hypocrisy undercuts your positions.
 
 
+17 # Barbara K 2011-12-20 05:30
Personally, I think these rightwingers worship nothing but themselves and money and lies.


NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN !!
 
 
+13 # angelfish 2011-12-20 05:44
I believe that MOST organized religion is a sick joke. Most "Christians" run to Church but wouldn't recognize Christ if he bumped into them on the street. They run to Church out of fear, NOT faith, and "Do it TO others BEFORE others do it TO them"! All ANYONE need do, in truth, is practice the Golden Rule. Do UNTO others as you'd have others do UNTO you. Sadly, that hasn't taken hold with many. Our Congress is a good case in point. The majority of them profess to be "Christians" yet, have No love for ANYONE who earns less than a Million dollars a year! MONEY is their God. Happily, in the end, God will repay them in kind.
 
 
+19 # BishopAndrew 2011-12-20 06:04
I have preached for years that the so called Evangelical movement in general and in the Republican Party in particular is a counterfeit and prostituted "brand" of Christianity that bears no resemblance to the Gospel of Jesus what so ever. As I have oft quoted "the Bible in the hands of some people is far more dangerous than a loaded shotgun in the hands of a drunk!"(To Kill a Mockingbird) Just remember evil always commits evil in the name of good so that good is discredited if such evil goes unchallenged and unexposed!
 
 
+12 # Capn Canard 2011-12-20 06:08
I suggest that we would be better off is we could discard these notions of "religion" and instead focus on our own direct experience of consciousness. Okay, that's a mouthful but we are talking about our personal relationship with the world. Power and Control is why religion is used to great effect at convincing people to fall in line and behave accordingly. I feel that religion is the simplest of means to control the people. I would say that Nazism worked as well as Catholicism or Islam or Judaism or Communism or Capitalism or Fascism, etc. I believe that all of these "cultures" (religion/socia l groups-includin g governmental systems) has shown tremendous fear of anything that might alter or effect in any way our experience of consciousness and will use any means necessary to destroy any and all competition. It seems to me that control of group consciousness is the deepest form of control. It is a Gordian Knot that needs to be cut, but is this a problem that can be solved?
 
 
+6 # in deo veritas 2011-12-20 06:14
The ultimate goal of the Nazis, in the vision of Alfred Rosenberg, a man who fashioned many of Hitler's behaviors, intended to replace the crucifix with a swored and the Bible with Mein Kampf. The vermin who are described in this article are total idiots if they believe that the God they use for their own ends will ever forgive them for perverting everything that he sent His son to us to teach us and scrifice himself for. Their actions will condemn them to spend eternity with Hitler and others they idolize.
 
 
+8 # tswhiskers 2011-12-20 06:16
It's amazing the ends to which religion can be put. The world is learning that fact in a big way right now from the corruption of Islam by Middle East terrorists. And Christianity has a long history of mixing uncomfortably with politics as well. Today's reality is that the Reps. are as religious as my kitchen table. But there has been a resurgence of evangelicalism and fundamentalism in America, Mormon and Christian, and like all opportunists the Reps have used them for their own ends. That's human nature. The only remedy for this is to hope that more people will become a bit skeptical when a politician "finds Christ." GW was laughable in his Christianity. It has been pretty easy for me to discover hypocrisy in religion, esp. when "Christians" plug war (e.g. the Iraqi War) and wealth at the expense of the general populace. Maybe in time more Americans will learn to view politicians with more suspicion esp. when they wear religion on their sleeves.
 
 
+7 # in deo veritas 2011-12-20 06:20
By the time the Nazis cama along, anti-semitism was already well established in the mindset of not only Germans, but in many peoples. Martin Luther was the most virulent hater of the Jews until Hitler arrived, declaring them all to be devils. The Nazis were simply alert enough to build upon institutions and attitudes already existing that served their purposes.
 
 
+10 # in deo veritas 2011-12-20 06:26
An interesting parallel here. These malignant characters described in the article want a militant Jesus with sword in hand to smite their enemies. Because jesus preached love and tolerance and did not lead the people in battle against the Romans they turned on him and crucified him. The same thing is done to the true Jesus by these modern day psychotics using their demented concept of religion for their own criminal ends. If they had an ounce of sense or decency, they would know that the real Jesus would not condone the things they stand for.
 
 
+6 # pekinghomonculus 2011-12-20 08:36
"Modern day psychotics" -

Constantius, the roman emperor, commanded his troops to adorn their shields due to a dream he had, with a Christian symbol (the Chi-Rho), and thereafter they were victorious.

Who is the greater psychotic? One who walks around preaching who needs medication or one who bases his actions on his dreams. Chritianity became the dominant religion due to roman politics.

Religion is based on fear and superstition from the days of the cave man and the belief that someone or something must be doing these things.
 
 
+11 # mwd870 2011-12-20 06:38
All extreme religion is dangerous. Personally, I agree with the author's assessment of the religious right.

"The current gridlock has its roots in right religion. Remove the religious right's powerful influence over America, a measure of sanity may return."

Religion is a personal choice and freedom, but the religious right believe theirs is the only true form of Christianity. People believe what they want to believe. Taken to an extreme, it leads to intolerance or worse.

Having said this, I agree with PGreen that, "religion (and Christianity) is by and large a force for good ethical behavior. But here is no denying that institutionally it can go wrong, or be distorted and misused by unscrupulous officials."
 
 
+12 # maddave 2011-12-20 06:38
We humans re-created God - and by implication Jesus- in OUR own image, thus proving conclusively that far more blasphemous images are graven with pen-and-ink than with hammer-and-chis el.
 
 
+11 # RCW 2011-12-20 06:59
Mr. Adams, While I certainly agree with your assessment of the ultra-conservat ive distortion of Christian teaching, your attributing this mind-set to "Republicans" shows that you need to do more research. I am a Democrat, but have in my parish Republicans who are aghast at the behavior and beliefs of the people you correctly criticize. Be careful about your generalizations , which perpetuate a 'them/us'
approach to issues.
 
 
+10 # Lolanne 2011-12-20 07:07
PGreen, the institutional church has gone wrong since the earliest days of Christianity. As soon as men decided there had to be a hierarchy of leadership (read 'power') so they could control the people, the church of Jesus was corrupted. A leader with a strong, charismatic personality could easily sway the people, and so it is today. I think the rise of fundamentalism stems from the fact that great masses of people just do not want to think for themselves and take responsibility for what they believe. They want a sure thing, so they fall under the spell of whatever 'leader' is the most persuasive. It must come from a deep-seated, maybe subconscious, fear of eternal damnation and hellfire. It feels safer to toe the line per the fundamentalist preachers than to look into one's own heart and mind and see what is there. It's a frightening state of affairs, but I do believe -- hope! -- a change in consciousness is at work in the world. We can only hope it comes clearly enough here to effect a turn-around in our country before it is too late.
 
 
+4 # frharry 2011-12-20 07:08
"I'm not sure on what information he(?) bases his statement that 'Religion was the foundation for Nazism which gave birth to Holocaust [sic]'."

Actually, the destructive understandings of the Jews which reach their ultimate expression in the Holocaust have a long pedigree in Christian thought. Beginning with the Gospels themselves, the polemical expressions of an early Jesus-following Jewish movement which was being expelled from the synagogues are found in references to "the Jews" vis-a-vis Jesus' crucifixion. Of course, Jesus and all of his followers at that point were Jews. The gospel writers reflect the developing church's antagonism toward their former correligionists . The gospels also reflect a desire to let the Roman Empire - who actually crucified Jesus - off the hook and appeal to an increasingly gentile movement.
 
 
+15 # fredboy 2011-12-20 07:13
The worst, most untrustworthy, selfish, and backstabbing colleagues I have known were people "of faith" who went to church every time the door was open. Liars, phonies, awful souls.
 
 
+8 # Travlinlight 2011-12-20 09:06
fredboy, that's what can happen when some people are force-fed a very aggressive, militant form of relgious observance. They either pay Sunday-morning lip service to it, or they breakdown into loud hypocrites who secretly hate and betray the religous system they follow, but are unable to get free of it.

Standard brand religion, with its perfect, judgmental and demanding deity and perfect son--what a goodie goodie pain in the ass he can be, at least as imaged and presented by some childish religious sects--drives some people into resentment and rejection, if only in their everday behavior.

True spirituality, which recognizes the divine in all of us and in the natural world as well, does not lead to hypocrisy, resentment and ultimately rejection of all notions of a sacred dimenson to life. However, that kind of sprituality has to be confirmed by personal experience to be stable and sustainable; otherwise it is just a temporary feel-good idea that has no lasting effect.
 
 
+6 # Travlinlight 2011-12-20 07:35
One can argue about how much if any real influence orthodox Christianity had on Nazism, but Nazism was more a religion than a secular philosophy. The Nazis had blood rituals and symbols that were very similar in emotional tone and psychologial impact to religion. Nazism also had a revered leader (Hitler) who took on the mantle of a god, an angry, vengeful and hateful god whose master race was no different from the concept of a "chosen people."

What Hitler believed and espoused was no different in its essentials from what the Old Testament Jehovah proclaimed. If one reads the intemperate and absurd nonsense put forth by Rousas John Rushdoony (a major influence on present-day Christian dominionism/rec onstructionsm), one finds, in his vile utterances the notions of kinism and white Christian male dominance, ideas that are thoroughly compatible with Nazi ideas.

The International House of Prayer, an extrme rightist Christian org, was a major organizing force behimd Rick Perry's "The Response." One of the IHOP leaders is on record as saying that Hitler was sent by God to drive the Jews out of Europe, making Der Fuhrer a divine hunter of the Jews, according to this lunatic.

The Nazis created what was a crypto-theocrac y that didn't need to be explicitly religious in the conventional sense; in all major respects and elements it was exactly the same kind of system.
 
 
+5 # Glen 2011-12-20 08:35
The comments concern Jesus' masculinity. Notice the difference in the depiction of the Buddha in India, China, and elsewhere.

The masculine once again is rearing its ugly head in favor of control and the appearance of strength. Christians are being swept up in paranoia and therefore aggression. The most militant among them are the rear guard of the death of the original beliefs.
 
 
+1 # Travlinlight 2011-12-21 08:40
Glen, the goddess is coming back, after over three thousand years of repudiation and dismissal. The male sky god system, with its command and control pyramid is dying. It will take some time and, tragically, some loss of blood and treasure, but she will make a comeback in the form of a network system of small independent regional or continental settelements, interacting cooperatively but with no overriding central authority. Keep in mind that when I speak of a goddess, I am using a metaphor for a cosmic womb of consciousness out of which all things come. We human beings will get back to that idea someday. Until then, keep the faith.
 
 
+6 # phishna 2011-12-20 09:00
Good job Loren bringing this to attention, judging by the lengthy passionate comments you hit the nail of the head.

Religions are unproven complex memeplexes subject to corruption and reinterpretatio n. For instance modern Evangelical Christianity has been completely corrupted and discredited by its adherence to Zionist idealogy. They are so far gone that they are trying to manifest the Apocalypse as a way to prove the validity of their faith.

The situation is laughably insane, in recent debate Michelle Bachmann, the crypto Jew posing as a born again, is basing her entire campaign on nuking Iran. She is just like Sarah Palin and all the rest of the political whores, warmongering as the path to political power.
 
 
-5 # John Gill 2011-12-20 09:14
This article reminds me of a fairly well written rough draft of a freshman Writing 101 essay. Even though the piece is incredibly slanted, there are certainly plenty of sources out there that this writer could have drawn on, so why not? Why no quotes? Why no supporting information? Come on, RSN. True as much of what the writer asserts might be, his lack of any sources whatsoever makes this article typical of the kind of drivel one finds on right wing hate sites. Your readers deserve better.
 
 
+8 # Rabbi Bubba 2011-12-20 09:16
I will say that the squeaky wheel gets the oil and there are three other wheels in religion that may run smoothly although I don't believe anything. So the most virulent, nasty, hypocritical and hate filled Christians get most of the air time.
Me? I don't "believe" anything, which makes me an atheist but I have respect for people, who in the confines of a decent interpretation of Jesus' proposed words, do good things and act with loving kindness. But most of what I find are "Fox Christians" in that Fox "news" seems to contain what most American Christians believe and belief is poison when confronting items of macro importance are to be critically thought out. Also it seems to me that there are parts of the country that are bastions of religious hallucinations and mal-interpretat ions; The South, which wallows in the aftereffects of the Civil War and traditions and the Midwest, which seem to contain escapees of The South.
 
 
-2 # William Bjornson 2011-12-20 10:36
"Me? I don't "believe" anything, which makes me an atheist"

Not at all. Atheism is also a religion in asserting a completely unproveable thesis as a 'truth'. Are your gut bacteria 'aware' of YOU besides as their 'planet'? If there be a 'god' that made this Universe, even a cursory look at the scale of this Universe will tell you that the 'distance' between your gut bacteria and you in complexiity and 'understanding' can only be a fraction of the 'distance' between us, even as a species, and this 'creator'. Any 'book' attempting to define 'god' or what 'god' wants is just ignorance tending toward blasphemy. Studying the actual WORK of this presumed creator is the only 'true' religion, science. But, alas, science contains the same personalities as any other human endeavor and the same willful corruptions of perception occur. The difference is, unlike other religions, all assertions in science must tie back consistently to all other assertions in science and, unlike 'book' based religions, the god's hand can be directly observed. One's belief (faith) or disbelief in science is best contemplated at 30,000 ft (9100 m) and 540 mph (240 m/s) in a manmade tube of pure science. Would you, even as a zealot, give the same confidence to prayer? I don't think so. And, if someone stands up and says they are a scientist AND an Atheist, they lie in the first part whether consciously or unconsciously. There is no end to human self-delusion even in scientists.
 
 
+4 # soularddave 2011-12-20 18:15
Quoting William Bjornson:
Atheism is also a religion in asserting a completely unproveable thesis as a 'truth'.


Why are you arguing here with such a convoluted diatribe? Check your dictionary.

A (without) theism (belief in a deity). So we have to believe as you to not believe?

Say what you wish, but we do define OURSELVES in order to think and function. You define us by the way we function, but you really don't know what we think.
 
 
+7 # Feral Dogz 2011-12-20 09:30
The GOP understands, as did the Third Reich, that aligning itself with supernatural powers will secure the support and loyalty of a substantial, superstitious constituency. My belief is that the GOP, like the Nazis, has many members whose true beliefs have nothing to do with Christian teachings and practices. Many of those who do believe see Christianity as their Get Out Of Hell Free Card, not as a way to improve life among the living.

One of my relatives who fought in Germany in WWII brought back many trophies, including a belt buckle bearing a swastika and the words GOTT MIT UNS (GOD IS WITH US). If you Google NIGHT OF THE AMAZONS you can see some images of one of the pagan pageants staged during the rise of the Third Reich. They didn't limit their superstitions to Biblical tradition.
 
 
+3 # CandH 2011-12-20 12:11
Alas, a rental neighbor, recently from India, put a paper decoration around their front door of strung together swastikas, until someone told them about what these symbols actually symbolize in America, asking them to look up Nazism.

"The swastika (Sanskrit: स्वस्तिक) is an equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing (࿕) form in counterclockwis e motion or its mirrored left-facing (࿖) form in clockwise motion. Earliest archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates back to the Indus Valley Civilization of Ancient India as well as Classical Antiquity. Swastikas have also been used in other various ancient civilizations around the world. It remains widely used in Indian religions, specifically in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism, primarily as a tantric symbol to evoke 'shakti' or the sacred symbol of good luck. The swastika is also a Chinese character used in East Asia representing eternity and Buddhism." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
 
 
+3 # cynnibunny 2011-12-20 11:15
The original essay here has over-reached. While it may appear that there is an over-arching philosophy of the GOP, there really isn't. It is a marketing plan choreographed by Rove and Luntz and their ilk. I believe that this GOP 'religion' pushes too extreme (as it must - they want us to believe the rich and exploitive are good), and that GOP supporters are open game for a sincere and religious message for good.

The GOP/Corporation s purpose is not to 'have' a philosophy/reli gion but to manipulate people with it. As the movie, "A Face in the Crowd" so effectively shows, it is mass manipulation that the GOP is after, not the 'truth' and certainly not a belief in 'peace, justice, and a better world'. The GOP/Corporation s will use the symbol of a righteous Jesus to their advantage, if it works (if it sells product, if it wins votes). They don't care about what it may do to people's beliefs. They don't care if it starts any unravelling of morality. No, the GOP is faithless, and therefore reckless with the symbols of most people's beliefs.

If we 'Liberals' would understand the need for an appeal to people's religious beliefs (sometimes someone does: 'Audacity of Hope', Abolition of Slavery), we would understand how to communicate with 'the masses'. And we would gain their support.

But to write off the large amount of GOP supporters as faithless and evil is just plain STUPID!
 
 
+1 # bobby t. 2011-12-20 12:32
it is fitting that this discussion is on the shortest day of the year. (northern hemisphere of course)....reli gion evolved because of that fact. imagine (yes, i know) that you lived fifty thousand years ago during the ice age. the sun looked like it was leaving and the game was disappearing. starvation and death looked like a sure thing. fear grips you. anything that will alleviate that fear is welcome. so i guy makes up a story and a solution. set fire to a tree (sympathetic magic or voodoo) to fake the sun out to believing that the earth is "hot" for him. sun or son is always a man. guess what springs comes and so the day grows longer. it worked. let's do it again when the sun seems to want to go away. it worked again. bingo. religion...what a great business.
 
 
0 # Glen 2011-12-27 06:34
And then the Jews emerged from the desert and proceeded to kill off all those with an objection to their one god. Amazing they didn't try to convince everyone those seasonal changes were not real.
 
 
+1 # Anarchist 23 2011-12-20 16:50
I have always considered that Good and Evil are Equal Opportunity employers. It's your choice.
 
 
+5 # anarchteacher 2011-12-20 17:13
Every criminal regime in history, from the ancient Sumerians to the present, has used (or abused) religion to bolster the legitimcy of the state. This is the concept of the alliance of "throne and altar."

The National Socialists in Germany were no different. They explicitly saw themselves as a religious movement.

They had two creedal variations: one esoteric faith (for the inner party elite such as the SS); and one exoteric faith for the masses ("Positive Christianity" under control of Reich authorities).

See the links below which outline these differences:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR4VO4JWwYw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q24zJmIF0zA

http://www.amazon.com/Nazism-Ideas-Have-Consequences/lm/3K8A4UAW2R4B0/ref=cm_srch_res_rpli_alt_1

http://www.amazon.com/Utopian-Nightmares-and-Gnostic-Political-Religions/lm/1E8UKBWSGZB5P/ref=cm_srch_res_rpli_alt_1
 
 
-8 # anarchteacher 2011-12-20 17:40
With its lyrical Aesopian language, Imagine is the biggest fraud ever put over on mindless sheep. John Lennon explicitly wrote it, he said, to "sugar-coat" the ideas of the Communist Manifesto, ideas responsible for the deaths of 100,000,000 people by their own brutal Communist regimes.

No heaven, No hell, No religion = Atheism

No countries = the international Communist proletariat

No possessions = no private property

Nothing to kill or die for = ethical relativism masquerading as pacifism

"I hope someday you'll join Us. ."

And just who the hell is Us?

The Communists!

"The revolutionary movement which began in 1789 in the Cercle Social, which in the middle of its course had as its chief representatives Leclerc and Roux, and which finally with Babeuf's conspiracy was temporarily defeated, gave rise to the communist idea which Babeuf's friend Buonarroti re-introduced in France after the Revolution in 1830. This idea, consistently developed, is the idea of the new world order."

This quote in full context) is from The Holy Family, the first joint collaboration volume of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels. It was written several years before their more celebrated (and originally anonymous) 1848 work, The Communist Manifesto.

So from Marx and Engels — the founding fathers of modern communism — we have it boldly stated: the communist idea = the new world order.
 
 
+4 # mebemo 2011-12-20 20:57
Quoting anarchteacher:


Nothing to kill or die for = ethical relativism masquerading as pacifism


Do you by any chance take yourself WAY too seriously?
 
 
+9 # leedeegirl 2011-12-20 20:53
one of my favorite lyrics from that lovely song, "Dear God" by the band XTC:

"Did you make disease, and the diamond blue?
Did you make mankind after we made you?
And the devil too!"

God is nothing but a manmade creation ... created to instill fear ...
 
 
+3 # bobby t. 2011-12-20 21:56
both. to instill fear of hell in order to control and get money and s special pass to heaven, and to quiet the fear of no sun to keep us warm and to make the crops grow. the sun or son as god seems to fit all the special effects..sunday is the day to pray. the sun's day. so both. to create fear and to alay fear. in both cases it is very effective and sells well to both cave man and modern man. all isms are bad when carried to extremes. and so are religions.
 
 
+6 # Margolicious 2011-12-21 15:46
Thank you Loren for explaining why I am at odds with my ultraconservati ve Republican friends and family. As a Christian I believe that Jesus's Sermon on the Mount and the Beatitudes are messages that tell Christians how to behave. However, I have found that ultraconservati ve so-called Republican Christians have rejected Jesus's messages of social and economic justice in favor of capitalistic greed and selfishness. I am going to have to check EWTN to see how they deal with the Occupy Movement to determine whether they get a donation. I am furious when modern Catholics marginalize/or ignore the teachings of the papal encyclicals of Pope Leo X111, Pope John Paul, and Pope Benedict to justify capitalism and depriving people of a living wage, single payer public option health insurance, affordable housing, and social and economic justice. Most Republican Party beliefs that are based on Social Darwinism are totally incompatible with the Gospel of Jesus. Additionally, thank you all for your opinions they are food for thought. May God Bless you all with a Merry Christmas or Happy Hanukkah, or Happy Holiday and a Happy New Year.
 
 
0 # mcthorogood 2011-12-21 17:28
God created human beings in His own image.

People see an image of God in the mirror each morning.

When people look upon each other, they don't always recognize Her.
 
 
+1 # Madrona 2011-12-21 23:40
Hitler began his rise to power in 1920's Germany with the slogan, 'kinder, kirken, and kuken.' (children, church and kitchen). Like the right-wing movements that began in the US in the 1980's the first people the Nazi's took power from were women. To read a complete history of the cooperation between the Catholic Church and the Nazi's read 'Hitler's Pope' by John Cornwall. Although some people say they have disproved much of what Mr. Cornwall wrote, no one has disproved his history that the Catholic church told Catholics not to vote in 1932, nor that the Church was in the process of becoming more authoritarian, similar to fascism.
 
 
+2 # Steve5551 2011-12-22 07:31
Hey,
Let's not forget that it was with the support of the fanatical Reformed "Christian" movement in the 1930's in Germany that was preaching Arian "Supremecy" that Hitler came to power. And if you think the Nazis were brutal with the Catholics, it was a super cozy relationship that Hitler enjoyed with the Vatican. By the way have you walked through the Vatican Museum? Much of that priceless art once belonged to European Jews. And it was the Roman Catholic Church that served as the Underground Railroad that brought at least 100,000 Nazis to the Americas.
 
 
+1 # Fi10Gale 2011-12-22 13:33
Loren (author)
Though there is much truth in your article it is all inclusive. All republicans are being attacked when the problem is the fringe element of the right wing. Perhaps next time you can call them the right wing or fringe element without being divisive?
I wholeheartedly agree that there is a problem with the mind set of the "fringe element" that needs to be addressed with shame but to include all republicans in that category causes your viewpoint to be categorized as fringe left.
 
 
0 # medusa 2011-12-22 15:55
Actually the New Testament was not put together or published by Augustine, or by the council of Nicea.
On the politics: Jesus Christ Superstar (the film) gives a pretty accurate view of how Jesus and his disciples ran foul of the powers. When it was released there were lots of conservatives who didn't like it at all.
 
 
+4 # GF4A 2011-12-22 16:46
I agree with the writer. These people are a sad bunch. They are so intent on 'saving' everyone. What IS there to be saved from? Nothing.

I have a big problem with the religious right and their influence in government, namely the abortion issue. What has happened to separation of church and state? Who are THEY to mandate what a woman should or should not do regarding abortion?

I have 4 words for these people:
IT IS NOBODY'S BUSINESS
and that should be the end of it.

They have taken the literal translation of the Bible, which does have some interesting 'stories.'

However, what they fail to realize is this book is like a big game of "post office."

The Bible has been handed down for centuries, edited by whatever ruler was in power at the time. It is a proven theological fact that there are many mis-translation s from the ancient language of Aramaic of Jesus and seeming omissions and additions in its history.

These are frightening people bent on saving us all from something that THEY believe in. I'm sorry - I don't believe their stories about damnation because that would mean that their all loving God is going to condemn billions to this mythical place called hell.

I just don't think that God is a cross between an angry parent and Santa Claus.
 

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