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Turse writes: "It won't be long until the screaming begins. Shrieking. Moaning. Tens of thousands of victims at once."

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in his office, 07/22/12. (photo: Getty Images)
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in his office, 07/22/12. (photo: Getty Images)


Nuclear Terror in the Middle East

By Nick Turse, TomDispatch

13 May 13

 

n those first minutes, they'll be stunned. Eyes fixed in a thousand-yard stare, nerve endings numbed. They'll just stand there. Soon, you'll notice that they are holding their arms out at a 45-degree angle. Your eyes will be drawn to their hands and you'll think you mind is playing tricks. But it won't be. Their fingers will start to resemble stalactites, seeming to melt toward the ground. And it won't be long until the screaming begins. Shrieking. Moaning. Tens of thousands of victims at once. They'll be standing amid a sea of shattered concrete and glass, a wasteland punctuated by the shells of buildings, orphaned walls, stairways leading nowhere.

This could be Tehran, or what's left of it, just after an Israeli nuclear strike.

Iranian cities -- owing to geography, climate, building construction, and population densities -- are particularly vulnerable to nuclear attack, according toa new study, "Nuclear War Between Israel and Iran: Lethality Beyond the Pale," published in the journal Conflict & Health by researchers from the University of Georgia and Harvard University. It is the first publicly released scientific assessment of what a nuclear attack in the Middle East might actually mean for people in the region.

Its scenarios are staggering. An Israeli attack on the Iranian capital of Tehran using five 500-kiloton weapons would, the study estimates, kill seven million people -- 86% of the population -- and leave close to 800,000 wounded. A strike with five 250-kiloton weapons would kill an estimated 5.6 million and injure 1.6 million, according to predictions made using an advanced software package designed to calculate mass casualties from a nuclear detonation.

Estimates of the civilian toll in other Iranian cities are even more horrendous. A nuclear assault on the city of Arak, the site of a heavy water plant central to Iran's nuclear program, would potentially kill 93% of its 424,000 residents. Three 100-kiloton nuclear weapons hitting the Persian Gulf port of Bandar Abbas would slaughter an estimated 94% of its 468,000 citizens, leaving just 1% of the population uninjured. A multi-weapon strike on Kermanshah, a Kurdish city with a population of 752,000, would result in an almost unfathomable 99.9% casualty rate.

Cham Dallas, the director of the Institute for Health Management and Mass Destruction Defense at the University of Georgia and lead author of the study, says that the projections are the most catastrophic he's seen in more than 30 years analyzing weapons of mass destruction and their potential effects. "The fatality rates are the highest of any nuke simulation I've ever done," he told me by phone from the nuclear disaster zone in Fukushima, Japan, where he was doing research. "It's the perfect storm for high fatality rates."

Israel has never confirmed or denied possessing nuclear weapons, but is widely known to have up to several hundred nuclear warheads in its arsenal. Iran has no nuclear weapons and its leaders claim that its nuclear program is for peaceful civilian purposes only. Published reports suggest that American intelligence agencies and Israel's intelligence service are in agreement: Iran suspended its nuclear weapons development program in 2003.

Dallas and his colleagues nonetheless ran simulations for potential Iranian nuclear strikes on the Israeli cities of Beer Sheva, Haifa, and Tel Aviv using much smaller 15-kiloton weapons, similar in strength to those dropped by the United States on the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945. Their analyses suggest that, in Beer Shiva, half of the population of 209,000 would be killed and one-sixth injured. Haifa would see similar casualty ratios, including 40,000 trauma victims. A strike on Tel Aviv with two 15-kiloton weapons would potentially slaughter 17% of the population -- nearly 230,000 people. Close to 150,000 residents would likely be injured.

These forecasts, like those for Iranian cities, are difficult even for experts to assess. "Obviously, accurate predictions of casualty and fatality estimates are next to impossible to obtain," says Dr. Glen Reeves, a longtime consultant on the medical effects of radiation for the Defense Department's Defense Threat Reduction Agency, who was not involved in the research. "I think their estimates are probably high but not impossibly so."

According to Paul Carroll of the Ploughshares Fund, a San Francisco-based foundation that advocates for nuclear disarmament, "the results would be catastrophic" if major Iranian cities were attacked with modern nuclear weapons. "I don't see 75% [fatality rates as] being out of the question," says Carroll, after factoring in the longer-term effects of radiation sickness, burns, and a devastated medical infrastructure.

According to Dallas and his colleagues, the marked disparity between estimated fatalities in Israel and Iran can be explained by a number of factors. As a start, Israel is presumed to have extremely powerful nuclear weapons and sophisticated delivery capabilities including long-range Jericho missiles, land-based cruise missiles, submarine-launched missiles, and advanced aircraft with precision targeting technology.

The nature of Iranian cities also makes them exceptionally vulnerable to nuclear attack, according to the Conflict & Health study. Tehran, for instance, is home to 50% of Iran's industry, 30% of its public sector workers, and 50 colleges and universities. As a result, 12 million people live in or near the capital, most of them clustered in its core. Like most Iranian cities, Tehran has little urban sprawl, meaning residents tend to live and work in areas that would be subject to maximum devastation and would suffer high percentages of fatalities due to trauma as well as thermal burns caused by the flash of heat from an explosion.

Iran's topography, specifically mountains around cities, would obstruct the dissipation of the blast and heat from a nuclear explosion, intensifying the effects. Climatic conditions, especially high concentrations of airborne dust, would likely exacerbate thermal and radiation casualties as well as wound infections.

Nuclear Horror: Then and Now

The first nuclear attack on a civilian population center, the U.S. strike on Hiroshima, left that city "uniformly and extensively devastated," according to a study carried out in the wake of the attacks by the U.S. Strategic Bombing Survey. "Practically the entire densely or moderately built-up portion of the city was leveled by blast and swept by fire... The surprise, the collapse of many buildings, and the conflagration contributed to an unprecedented casualty rate." At the time, local health authorities reported that 60% of immediate deaths were due to flash or flame burns and medical investigators estimated that 15%-20% of the deaths were caused by radiation.

Witnesses "stated that people who were in the open directly under the explosion of the bomb were so severely burned that the skin was charred dark brown or black and that they died within a few minutes or hours," according to the 1946 report. "Among the survivors, the burned areas of the skin showed evidence of burns almost immediately after the explosion. At first there was marked redness, and other evidence of thermal burns appeared within the next few minutes or hours."

Many victims kept their arms outstretched because it was too painful to allow them to hang at their sides and rub against their bodies. One survivor recalled seeing victims "with both arms so severely burned that all the skin was hanging from their arms down to their nails, and others having faces swollen like bread, losing their eyesight. It was like ghosts walking in procession... Some jumped into a river because of their serious burns. The river was filled with the wounded and blood."

The number of fatalities at Hiroshima has been estimated at 140,000. A nuclear attack on Nagasaki three days later is thought to have killed 70,000. Today, according to Dallas, 15-kiloton nuclear weapons of the type used on Japan are referred to by experts as "firecracker nukes" due to their relative weakness.

In addition to killing more than 5.5 million people, a strike on Tehran involving five 250-kiloton weapons -- each of them 16 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Hiroshima -- would result in an estimated 803,000 third-degree burn victims, with close to 300,000 others suffering second degree burns, and 750,000 to 880,000 people severely exposed to radiation. "Those people with thermal burns over most of their bodies we can't help," says Dallas. "Most of these people are not going to survive... there is no saving them. They'll be in intense agony." As you move out further from the site of the blast, he says, "it actually gets worse. As the damage decreases, the pain increases, because you're not numb."

In a best case scenario, there would be 1,000 critically injured victims for every surviving doctor but "it will probably be worse," according to Dallas. Whatever remains of Tehran's healthcare system will be inundated with an estimated 1.5 million trauma sufferers. In a feat of understatement, the researchers report that survivors "presenting with combined injuries including either thermal burns or radiation poisoning are unlikely to have favorable outcomes."

Iranian government officials did not respond to a request for information about how Tehran would cope in the event of a nuclear attack. When asked if the U.S. military could provide humanitarian aid to Iran after such a strike, a spokesman for Central Command, whose area of responsibility includes the Middle East, was circumspect. "U.S. Central Command plans for a wide range of contingencies to be prepared to provide options to the Secretary of Defense and the President," he told this reporter. But Frederick Burkle, a senior fellow at the Harvard Humanitarian Initiative and Harvard University's School of Public Health, as well as a coauthor of the just-published article, is emphatic that the U.S. military could not cope with the scale of the problem. "I must also say that no country or international body is prepared to offer the assistance that would be needed," he told me.

Dallas and his team spent five years working on their study. Their predictions were generated using a declassified version of a software package developed for the Defense Department's Defense Threat Reduction Agency, as well as other complementary software applications. According to Glen Reeves, the software used fails to account for many of the vagaries and irregularities of an urban environment. These, he says, would mitigate some of the harmful effects. Examples would be buildings or cars providing protection from flash burns. He notes, however, that built-up areas can also exacerbate the number of deaths and injuries. Blast effects far weaker than what would be necessary to injure the lungs can, for instance, topple a house. "Your office building can collapse... before your eardrums pop!" notes Reeves.

The new study provides the only available scientific predictions to date about what a nuclear attack in the Middle East might actually mean. Dallas, who was previously the director of the Center for Mass Destruction Defense at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is quick to point out that the study received no U.S. government funding or oversight. "No one wanted this research to happen," he adds.

Rattling Sabers and Nuclear Denial

Frederick Burkle points out that, today, discussions about nuclear weapons in the Middle East almost exclusively center on whether or not Iran will produce an atomic bomb instead of "focusing on ensuring that thereare options for them to embrace an alternate sense of security." He warns that the repercussions may be grave. "The longer this goes on the more weempower that singularthinking both within Iran and Israel."

Even if Iran were someday to build several small nuclear weapons, their utility would be limited. After all, analysts note that Israel would be capable of launching a post-attack response which would simply devastate Iran. Right now, Israel is the only nuclear-armed state in the Middle East. Yet a preemptive Israeli nuclear strike against Iran also seems an unlikely prospect to most experts.

"Currently, there is little chance of a true nuclear war between the two nations," according to Paul Carroll of the Ploughshares Fund. Israel, he points out, would be unlikely to use nuclear weapons unless its very survival were at stake. "However, Israel's rhetoric about red lines and the threat of a nuclear Iran are something we need to worry about," he toldme recently by email. "A military strike to defeat Iran's nuclear capacity would A) not work B) ensure that Iran WOULD then pursue a bomb (something they have not clearly decided to do yet) and C) risk a regional war."

Cham Dallas sees the threat in even starker terms. "The Iranians and the Israelis are both committed to conflict," he told me. He isn't alone in voicing concern. "What will we do if Israel threatens Tehran with nuclear obliteration?... A nuclear battle in the Middle East, one-sided or not, would be the most destabilizing military event since Pearl Harbor," wrote Pulitzer Prize-winning national security reporter Tim Weiner in a recent op-ed for Bloomberg News. "Our military commanders know a thousand ways in which a war could start between Israel and Iran... No one has ever fought a nuclear war, however. No one knows how to end one."

The Middle East is hardly the only site of potential nuclear catastrophe. Today, according to the Ploughshares Fund, there are an estimated 17,300 nuclear weapons in the world. Russia reportedly has the most with 8,500; North Korea, the fewest with less than 10. Donald Cook, the administrator for defense programs at the U.S. National Nuclear Security Administration, recently confirmed that the United States possesses around 4,700 nuclear warheads. Other nuclear powers include rivals India and Pakistan, which stood on the brink of nuclear war in 2002. (Just this year, Indian government officials warned residents of Kashmir, the divided territory claimed by both nations, to prepare for a possible nuclear war.) Recently, India and nuclear-armed neighbor China, which went to war with each other in the 1960s, again found themselves on the verge of a crisis due to a border dispute in a remote area of the Himalayas.

In a world awash in nuclear weapons, saber-rattling, brinkmanship, erratic behavior, miscalculations, technological errors, or errors in judgment could lead to a nuclear detonation and suffering on an almost unimaginable scale, perhaps nowhere more so than in Iran. "Not only would the immediate impacts be devastating, but the lingering effects and our ability to deal with them would be far more difficult than a 9/11 or earthquake/tsunami event," notes Paul Carroll. Radiation could turn areas of a country into no-go zones; healthcare infrastructure would be crippled or totally destroyed; and depending on climatic conditions and the prevailing winds, whole regions might have their agriculture poisoned. "One large bomb could do this, let alone a handful, say, in a South Asian conflict," he told me.

"I do believe that the longer we have these weapons and the more there are, the greater the chances that we will experience either an intentional attack (state-based or terrorist) or an accident," Carroll wrote in his email. "In many ways, we've been lucky since 1945. There have been some very close calls. But our luck won't hold forever."

Cham Dallas says there is an urgent need to grapple with the prospect of nuclear attacks, not later, but now. "There are going to be other big public health issues in the twenty-first century, but in the first third, this is it. It's a freight train coming down the tracks," he told me. "People don't want to face this. They're in denial."


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+23 # RMDC 2014-12-23 13:42
While I agree that we don't want dead cops, it is also true that a cop who goes to prison for shooting a black kid will not live very long. So he'll probably a dead cop anyway. Still I think the cops who kill African Americans should go to prison and take their chances.
 
 
0 # backwards_cinderella 2014-12-24 05:13
you're talking out of both sides of your mouth.
 
 
+10 # Radscal 2014-12-24 14:53
I agree that murderous cops should go to prison, but I wonder about your presumption of their fate. Do you have any evidence that police officers who serve time in prison are likely to be killed?

In all of the cases I could find of cops being convicted and sent to prison for murder, the victim was white. But none of them were killed in prison.
 
 
-1 # Chop chop 2014-12-26 06:40
http://reason.com/archives/2014/12/24/how-liberals-put-black-america
 
 
+36 # PABLO DIABLO 2014-12-23 14:12
THANK YOU Carl for a reasoned plea. We are ALL in this together. We need NOT fight each other.
 
 
+28 # ljslotnick 2014-12-23 14:20
Would the editors of the NYC tabloids even consider printing a piece like this...or an abbreviated version. Would the Times even consider?
 
 
+19 # dyannne 2014-12-23 16:40
Thank you, Carl. My hope is that your voice and those like you - I have heard others on NPR make similar arguments - will be heard by those who are operating right now on thought-less gut reactions. I have a friend on FB, normally a reasoned person, but she lives in NYC and she is not thinking straight on this issue. It feels like those like her are inciting themselves into a frenzy. They can't see the reality of the situation because they are so upset. And on and on it goes. Hopefully, they will calm down soon and listen to reason, which is the only way we're going to survive this.
 
 
-33 # lewagner 2014-12-23 19:41
Still "Sandy Hook".
Nobody will do any research on it, just keep on quoting Anderson Cooper and the grinning -- excuse me, GRIEVING -- parents about "Sandy Hook".
It's just sickening.
 
 
-33 # futhark 2014-12-23 21:48
Thank you lewagner. The whole Sandy Hook incident appears to have been a hoax perpetrated on the American people. Investigate it yourself. No one died there. The officials were all wearing color-coded FEMA tags. Someone ordered Port-A-Potties delivered in advance to the school. There were signs on campus directing the participants to sign in. Many of the same "witnesses" appeared on CNN weeks later as "witnesses" to the Boston Marathon bombing under different names. Find out what professional school safety and security expert Wolfgang Halbig has to say about this incident.

http://www.sandyhookjustice.com/

You can't rely on government officials or propaganda organs like CNN to be telling the truth since 9/11 and Saddam Hussein's WMDs. They have an agenda and it is not in the best interests of your liberty, truth, or justice to accept uncritically the version of events they are propagating.
 
 
+19 # Working Class 2014-12-24 12:43
You are one sick puppy Futhark. You are reading and listening to sources of information who have you feeding off your own feeling of insecurity. There are real kids who died at Sandy Hook and by the way we have had 42 school shooting this year alone in the US. Just for the record I am a gun owner and avid shooter, so I am not anti-gun. I am pro-mental health. Get yours checked.
 
 
+13 # Radscal 2014-12-24 15:04
I don't claim to know what all really transpired in the Sandy Hook case. One thing that has troubled me since the day of the tragic event was that the police never permitted EMTs to enter the school.

My wife was a pediatric critical care nurse in Oakland, CA for almost 2 decades, and the thought of all those children, shot and bleeding out without any emergency medical professionals being permitted to try to save some is both heartbreaking and shocking.

Finally, more than an hour after police knew the shooter was dead, the Medical Examiner's Staff went in and simply declared each and every one of them dead.

The police knew the shooter was dead within 10 minutes of first arriving on the scene. The school was taken off lockdown and the children allegedly evacuated within a half hour. And yet, medical workers were not granted access.

That is troubling, especially to anyone who has experience in emergency medical care.
 
 
+6 # Buddha 2014-12-24 16:55
As someone with training in emergency care, you should know that in cases like this, EMTs and paramedics are not allowed into the scene until the area has been deemed to be secure of further threat. Police knew a shooter was down, but still have to secure the area in case there may be multiple shooters. In the meantime, wounded themselves were evacuated to receive medical care. Why do Americans always put on the tinfoil hats?
 
 
+7 # Radscal 2014-12-24 19:16
As I wrote, it's my wife who has that training and experience, not me.

The police considered the scene secure enough to let hundreds of children walk down the halls, out of the building, through the parking lot and down the street, and yet refused to let medical staff in.

At the Aurora Theater scene, EMTs were allowed in even while the police were searching for the shooter's accomplice that many witness/survivo rs reported seeing.

For that matter, why are there no photos or videos of these hundreds of children walking to the Fire Station?

We all saw the one famous photo of a dozen or so kids in the parking lot, but that's all.

"Why do Americans always" believe whatever the corporate media tell them to believe?
 
 
+5 # lewagner 2014-12-24 19:39
""Why do Americans always" believe whatever the corporate mediate tells them to believe?"

Thank you!
I have another question. Why do so many of these comments sections have comment rating numbers that don't show how many pluses and minuses, but only the running total?
 
 
-2 # Radscal 2014-12-24 20:44
Yeah, what's up with this change to only showing either the up votes or the sum of ups and downs?
 
 
-4 # lewagner 2014-12-24 19:36
They tore the building down, and EMT's and paramedics had STILL not been allowed into the building. The very name of the company that did the hazardous material cleanup of all the gallons of blood is secret information, for Christ's sake. Why do Americans always believe the ridiculous government stories?? Do you even know that Anderson Cooper worked/works for the CIA? Read his Wikipedia page.
 
 
+2 # skylinefirepest 2014-12-24 23:32
As a current medical responder and fireman in N.C. it is sog for some medical intervention as soon as a "small area of safety" is established...t o take hours to clear an area is not professional and costs us victims.
 
 
+4 # lewagner 2014-12-24 19:32
You do mental health diagnoses right over the Internet? And you saw the "real kids" who died at Sandy Hook right on your TV. Get your own mental health checked, dude.
 
 
+23 # fredboy 2014-12-23 19:54
The NYPD press conference was disgraceful.

Totally ignoring the police gang murder of an innocent, unarmed man who was not breaking the law--and the fixed grand jury that refused to indict the killer cops.

And ignoring that raging injustice could set off extreme anger.

When the grand jury refused to act, I knew they were going to get cops hurt or killed. And they did.

Time to face the music. Bad cops have ignited national rage.

And NYPD and Giuliani, don't castigate the public or protestors as the enemy. You are just making the situation worse--and shredding any semblance of respect we once had for you.
 
 
-14 # The Buffalo Guy 2014-12-23 21:39
Quoting fredboy:
The NYPD press conference was disgraceful.

Totally ignoring the police gang murder of an innocent, unarmed man who was not breaking the law--and the fixed grand jury that refused to indict the killer cops.

And ignoring that raging injustice could set off extreme anger.

When the grand jury refused to act, I knew they were going to get cops hurt or killed. And they did.


fredboy, your posting is a good example of what our problem is in this country.In the 2nd paragraph you say he wasn't breaking te law but he had multiple priors for the same infraction...se lling loosies. And for the grand jury to act, they would had to find them at fault and they didn't.
Then you call it a raging injustice. Well if you start with that extreme anger, and the grand jury didn't, it follows that you would presume injustice and would only see what you wanted to see. And calling it racism stokes the flames even higher. I could ask why there isn't any uproar over Dillon Taylor, an unarmed white boy shot & killed by a black cop in Utah. That cop wasn't indicted either. The real problem isn't race but that we put guns in the hands of cops and depend on them to keep the law using their own judgement. You can mitigate this problem but it will not disappear because of the poor gun control in this country. And cops don't take chances. I remember a plumber being shot & killed by police when he crawled out from under a house where he was working. OOPS wrong guy.
 
 
+17 # Buddha 2014-12-24 17:04
And your post really shows what is wrong with America, total ignorance combined with certainty you know what you are talking about. No, a grand jury's responsibility isn't to determine "fault" or guilt, it is to determine if there is enough evidence to warrant the case being brought to trial, a very low bar to be met provided you have a DA who wants the case to go to trial and a grand jury that takes their responsibility seriously. This is why something like 99.9% of cases a DA takes to Grand Jury get that indictment, as has been said before a DA if he wants can indict a ham sandwich. But what we see in Ferguson and NYC and Ohio, over and over across America, is how DAs DON'T want cases against their colleagues the police to go to trial, and how easy it is to fix the Grand Jury process to achieve that constant exoneration of police.
 
 
-12 # arquebus 2014-12-24 17:45
If the innocent man you refer to was Garner, he was breaking the law...he was resisting arrest. Last I looked, that is illegal. If the arrest is not valid, the place to resolve that is in court not the street.
 
 
+13 # lewagner 2014-12-24 19:41
He was talking back. That is not an offense to be summarily executed for, except maybe in Nazi Germany or the old USSR. Or in modern day America.
My father fought against fascism in WWII. I'm sure as hell not going to start supporting it now.
 
 
-1 # ctcarole 2014-12-24 11:12
We need to be careful when we use the word "justice." Many, or even most, of those protesting and calling for justice are really calling for conviction and punishment. The grand juries that have heard evidence and called police justified in this recent spate of killings felt they were giving justice. If Darren Wilson, for instance, went to trial and was found innocent, would protesters consider that justice? When George Zimmerman was found innocent at trial, did that satisfy protesters? Let protesters stop asking for justice and start demanding conviction. At least their intention will be clear. Justice is in the eye of the beholder. Conviction and punishment aren't.
 
 
+8 # Radscal 2014-12-24 15:15
Had there been actual trials where the physical evidence and witness testimonies would have been analyzed critically, then we'd know how the public would have responded.

Since there weren't, you're just hyping your fantasy.

These are not a "recent spate of killings." I find no evidence that the rate of police killing people (specifically black males) has increased this year. For some reason, the corporate media has made them "news" this year, and that is an interesting phenomena.

The Zimmerman case was not a police killing. Still, though many of us feel that the case was bungled, and justice was not served, there were not the types of protests you berate after the verdict.
 
 
-1 # ctcarole 2014-12-24 16:01
Radscal,

I agree with your comments about actual trials but disagree that people would be satisfied with anything other than conviction. I brought up the Zimmerman case because protesters are still calling it no justice (as you just did). I'm not sure what you mean by "hyping my fantasy." All I said was that people are calling for justice but will not be satisfied with anything less than conviction and they should say what they mean.
 
 
+1 # Radscal 2014-12-24 16:04
I didn't pretend to know how people would have responded had there been trials. You are the one who writes what you imagine would have happened to be factually evident.

That is hyping your fantasy.
 
 
+7 # loveandfeeling 2014-12-24 12:49
Excellent article. Truly articulates the feelings I have had over the weeks since the protests have started. Really points out the double standard of law enforcement and tries to help them and their supporters make the connection between themselves and those seeking justice. Well done.
 
 
+3 # a1231321o 2014-12-24 17:19
The police have tasers, mace and guns to disable or maim an unarmed suspect. If they shoot to kill an unarmed suspect, then they are willfully and consciously committing murder. Police do not have to shoot to kill just take out their knee caps then what are they going to do?
 
 
-7 # arquebus 2014-12-24 17:50
You've seen too many movies. Bet you even believe that one shot from a pistol will send the target flying across the room. Sometime get a toy pistol and let someone just walk rapidly across a room...see how well you do just keeping the sights on his knee.
 
 
+10 # lfeuille 2014-12-24 17:51
Quoting a1231321o:
The police have tasers, mace and guns to disable or maim an unarmed suspect. If they shoot to kill an unarmed suspect, then they are willfully and consciously committing murder. Police do not have to shoot to kill just take out their knee caps then what are they going to do?


They are trained to shot and kill. I think it is time to reevaluate that training along with teaching them not to draw their gun unnecessarily. If they are too scared to be in their assigned location without a gun in hand, they should not be cops.
 
 
0 # Floe 2014-12-25 17:34
There should be a total retraction by the NYPD on the stated wartime revenge they have deigned in the aftermath of the two NYPD shootings. They should be considered enemies of the people until that occurs.
 
 
-2 # Floe 2014-12-25 17:37
Isn't it always progressive leaders that are assassinated? I can't recall ever hearing of a Conservative getting assassinated. Cops are Conservative but I'm referring to leaders.
 
 
-1 # banichi 2014-12-25 18:09
Thank you for this article. I have been watching the news and the positional arguments on all sides with little hope that a sane voice would speak up - but maybe it would eventually. So again, thank you.

The roots of the problems here go back generations, not months, and tracing those roots would take more time and space than is allowed here. It comes from the divisiveness inherent in the 'us versus them' that is the core of the issues at this time. And the disintegration of the application of the law even handedly to all citizens, regardless of color or economic status.

What most of the people are missing, who line up with the position that the police are justified in shooting blacks - or anyone, for that matter - when they are unarmed, is that they are afraid of the real possibility that if this 'us versus them' mentality continues, it will not neglect them, either. They won't be immune to such sanctioned violence. This is the potential end result of the degradation of our rights under the Constitution and Bill or Rights. These rights of citizens apply to all of us; white, black, anyone - or they can be abrogated at will by anyone who has been given the power to do so. As the police are who swore their oaths to 'defend and protect'; as the NSA, CIA, FBI, SCOTUS, Congress, and the Administration swore the same oaths.

This divisiveness enhanced by 'security' excuses that override the oaths, will destroy our democracy. Is doing so. Remember.
 
 
-2 # Sage 2014-12-25 19:31
 
 
+1 # Chop chop 2014-12-26 06:39
http://reason.com/archives/2014/12/24/how-liberals-put-black-america
 
 
+1 # banichi 2014-12-26 14:23
Quoting Chop chop:
http://reason.com/archives/2014/12/24/how-liberals-put-black-america


Wow. Ugly. But reality of history often looks that way when brought into the present.

And who was it that first said that those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it?

Any aliens who show up in invisible starships to assess humanity's suitability to be allowed out into the rest of the galaxy would most likely conclude that we should be contained on this one planet to see if we manage to avoid self-destructio n from sheer willful stupidity. That's assuming such aliens don't have a vested interest in helping us along to said self-destructio n. Who knows?
 
 
-1 # RICHARDKANEpa 2014-12-27 01:37
I'm glad for your first paragraph. However everyone is leaving out that that the Sandy Hook murderer was enslaved day and night by the video game Call of Duty and so was the school murderer in France and the attacker of the Youth Camp in Norway.

Also must cops are veterans taught to shoot first and think later in Basic Training video games
 
 
0 # rradiof 2014-12-28 20:44
Hot town. Pigs in the streets. But, the streets belong to the people. Dig it! Over and out.
 

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