Greenwald writes: "The latest person to unwittingly reveal the real reason for viewing an Iranian nuclear capacity as unacceptable was GOP Senator Lindsey Graham."
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad touring an Iranian nuclear facility. (photo: Reuters)
The Real Reason the US Fears Iranian Nukes
03 October 12
GOP Senator Lindsey Graham echoes a long line of US policymakers: Iran must not be allowed to deter US aggression
n the Washington Post today, Richard Cohen expresses surprise that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is "starting to make some sense" and "wax rationally". Cohen specifically cites this statement from the Iranian president last week:
"Let's even imagine that we have an atomic weapon, a nuclear weapon. What would we do with it? What intelligent person would fight 5,000 American bombs with one bomb?"
Cohen's surprise notwithstanding, numerous Iranian leaders, including Ahmadinejad, have long made the same point. And it's a point so obvious it should not even need to be made. No rational person takes seriously the claim that Iran, even if it did obtain a nuclear weapon, would commit instant and guaranteed national suicide by using it to attack a nation that has a huge nuclear stockpile, which happens to include both the US and Israel. One can locate nothing in the actions of Iran's regime that even suggests irrationality on that level, let alone suicidal impulses.
That Iran will use its nuclear weapons against the US and Israel is rather obviously the centerpiece of the fear-mongering campaign against Tehran, to build popular support for threats to launch an aggressive attack in order to prevent them from acquiring that weapon. So what, then, is the real reason that so many people in both the US and Israeli governments are so desperate to stop Iranian proliferation?
Every now and then, they reveal the real reason: Iranian nuclear weapons would prevent the US from attacking Iran at will, and that is what is intolerable. The latest person to unwittingly reveal the real reason for viewing an Iranian nuclear capacity as unacceptable was GOP Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the US's most reliable and bloodthirsty warmongers.
On Monday, Graham spoke in North Augusta, South Carolina, and was asked about the way in which sanctions were harming ordinary Iranians. Ayman Hossam Fadel was present and recorded the exchange. Answering that question, Graham praised President Obama for threatening Iran with war over nuclear weapons, decreed that "the Iranian people should be willing to suffer now for a better future," and then - invoking the trite neocon script that is hauled out whenever new wars are being justified - analogized Iranian nukes to Hitler in the 1930s. But in the middle of his answer, he explained the real reason Iranian nuclear weapons should be feared:
"They have two goals: one, regime survival. The best way for the regime surviving, in their mind, is having a nuclear weapon, because when you have a nuclear weapon, nobody attacks you."
Graham added that the second regime goal is "influence", that "people listen to you" when you have a nuclear weapon. In other words, we cannot let Iran acquire nuclear weapons because if they get them, we can no longer attack them when we want to and can no longer bully them in their own region.
Graham's answer is consistent with what various American policy elites have said over the years about America's enemies generally and Iran specifically: the true threat of nuclear proliferation is that it can deter American aggression. Thomas Donnelly of the American Enterprise Institute and the New American Century Project has long been crystal clear that this is the real reason for opposing Iranian nuclear capability [my emphasis]:
"When their missiles are tipped with warheads carrying nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons, even weak regional powers have a credible deterrent regardless of the balance of conventional forces … In the post cold war era, America and its allies, rather than the Soviet Union, have become the primary objects of deterrence and it is states like Iraq, Iran and North Korea who most wish to develop deterrent capabilities."
He added:
"The surest deterrent to American action is a functioning nuclear arsenal …
"To be sure, the prospect of a nuclear Iran is a nightmare. But it is less a nightmare because of the high likelihood that Tehran would employ its weapons or pass them on to terrorist groups - although that is not beyond the realm of possibility - and more because of the constraining effect it threatens to impose upon US strategy for the greater Middle East. The danger is that Iran will 'extend' its deterrence, either directly or de facto, to a variety of states and other actors throughout the region. This would be an ironic echo of the extended deterrence thought to apply to US allies during the cold war."
As Jonathan Schwarz has extensively documented, this is what US policy elites have said over and over. In 2001, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned:
"Several of these [small enemy nations] are intensely hostile to the United States and are arming to deter us from bringing our conventional or nuclear power to bear in a regional crisis."
In 2002, State Department official Philip Zelikow said that if Iraq were permitted to keep its WMDs, "they now can deter us from attacking them, because they really can retaliate against us." In 2008, Democratic Senator Chuck Robb and GOP Senator Dan Coates wrote an incredibly hawkish Washington Post op-ed all but demanding an attack on Iran, and wrote:
"[A]n Islamic Republic of Iran with nuclear weapons capability would be strategically untenable. It would threaten U.S. national security … While a nuclear attack is the worst-case scenario, Iran would not need to employ a nuclear arsenal to threaten US interests. Simply obtaining the ability to quickly assemble a nuclear weapon would effectively give Iran a nuclear deterrent."
The No 1 concern of American national security planners appears to be that countries may be able to prevent the US from attacking them at will, whether to change their regimes or achieve other objectives. In other words, Iranian nuclear weapons could be used to prevent wars - ones started by the US - and that, above all, is what we must fear.
(Graham's questioner said that she believed Iran was not committed to developing a nuclear weapon, and Graham responded that Israeli leaders had reached the opposite conclusion. That is simply false.)
Whatever one thinks of Iran, the signal the US has sent to the world is unmistakable: any rational government should acquire nuclear weapons. The Iranians undoubtedly watched the US treatment of two dictators who gave up their quest for nuclear weapons - Iraq's Saddam Hussein and Libya's Muammar Gaddafi - and drew the only reasoned lesson: the only way a country can protect itself from US attack, other than full-scale obeisance, is to acquire nuclear weapons. That is precisely why the US and Israel are so eager to ensure they do not.
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America - wake up - stop US sanctions against Iran, stop war on Iranian people.
if we are going to fight for power then we should live up to the example of its civilized use.
Yes, the Iran regime needs to go. That is what's being disagreed on here, as well as the manner in which it should be removed.
A few major failures of radical Islam and it will start to change all over the world. We can start to see it know with the Arab Spring, but a lot more needs to be done.
This thing of Liberals hanging with and support radical Islam is a real loser - and if we looked far enough I think we'd see the CIA disinformation in there trying to make Liberals look stupid and bad - a precursor for calling them evil and associating liberalism with terrorism ... we liberals/progre ssive should not let that happen.
Do you realize just how ridiculous you folks are here supporting the ugliest most intolerant regimes in the planet and pretending to be Liberals? I am way more honest than you are - if there is a plant her, it is you or the clueless faux Liberals here than think they are supporting human rights by crying for Ahmadinejad.
I assume you prefer war and aggression on the part of the U.S. even if it bankrupts the country totally.
Oh, you mean like Saudi Arabia, the most primitive and medieval of the major oil producing nations we pal up to? Remember Dimwits-minor holding hands with prince Al Saud in a supreme piece of theater for the oil conglomerates clustered there, makin' whoopee whilst the Saudi people, especially women, lose limbs and their heads in Riyadh for minor theocratic violations.
Even Terahn is space-age compared to that crowd and many other regimes but as long as they are "Our bad guys" they're just dandy (like Saddam Hussein for a while).
Please open yer eyes to the selectively-pre sented facts that facilitate profits for the corporate state and empire.
Morality, however well-intentione d, has no place in the larger world of the corporate acquisitionist quest for power and profit.
War-mongering is the means to instigate conflict by threat or action and if you support any suggestion of it, then you make it so by default.
BTW. Amedjinidad is not the core power in Iran but the prime minister serving at the whis of the Mullahs. And internal resistance is building.
As far as I am concerned, Iran is fine. I personally don't like theocratic run nations, but I understand how the Islamic revolution came about in Iran and I terrifically support Ayatollah Khomeni. Iran is evolving and growing. It has a great and noble history and a bright future -- if the US/Israel would just leave it alone.
The US is armed to the teeth. It has the most powerful and vicious military in all human history. It is a dying empire and trying to prove that it is not dying by crushing nations and murdering millions of people. the sooner the US regime dies, the better will be life on earth for 99% of the people, animals, and indeed the earth itself.
You mean... like attacking Iran?
Have you been paying attention to the news, lately?
Additionally, Iran has Iraq on its Western border (occupied by Americans), Afghanistan on its Eastern border (occupied by the Coalition) and the U.S. declared Iran part of the Axis of Evil.
Why should all foreign policies make Israel more important than anything on this earth. It seems like all nations must submit their crowns to the feet of Israel to be considered legitimate. I think the worst Holocaust that existed upon this earth is in what happen to the Blacks of America in Chattel Slavery and 100 years of lynching under Jim Crow laws. Millions were thrown overboard on the slave ships and they were packed on them like sardines. They suffered a physical Holocaust as well as a psychological Holocaust. .
Yeah, whatever you say.
Just ask yourself what you would be saying if it was the American president saying stuff like this.
> Why should all foreign policies make Israel more important than anything on this earth.
Oh, come on.
> They suffered a physical Holocaust as well as a psychological Holocaust
yeah, as i said imagine if an American president denied that ever happened? do you think that is a president's job as the representative of his country?
You seem to have a double-standard ...on the one hand in other posts you have talked about the problem with "radical islam" physically attacking people who criticize Islam (e.g., the recent attack in Libya) and talk about the need to defend freedom of speech but then on the other you seem to be trying to justify an attack on Iran because their President deny's the Holocause (i.e., speech...pretty horrendous speach but speach nonetheless)? Seems you want to have things both ways i.e., they should chill when we criticize them but we should bomb them when they say something we disagree with. And, Iran has been clear that they will only use military force if attacked first a principle we seem to have totally abandoned.
but Iranians don't feel this way. All Iranian leaders have condemned nuclear weapons as immoral. they have said over and over that they are not building an nuclear weapon. It is only us -- Americans -- who think this way. We would build the ultimate weapon just to scare everyone else away. That is our culture and mentality. It is not the mentality or culture of Iran or any Muslim nation.
Lindsey will be well to the back!
When Iran wanted to nationalize IT'S OWN OIL!!! We sent CIA in to depose a LAWFULLY elected prime minister, and put in the SHAH, who was hated by his subjects.
After the revolution, when Saddam attacked Iran. WE gave him CHEMICAL WEAPONS, which he used to kill thousands of Iranians, and later the Iraqi Kurds.
After 9-11 when we started the Afghan war, the Iranians offered to help train the Afghan police.....AND THEN Bush made the stupid AXES OF EVIL speech.
VERY clear message. North Korea has nukes, Iraq had not. IRAQ was ATTACKED.
Korea was not. Conclusion: GET NUKES IN A HURRY, I certainly think the Iranian Regime is a bad one...But I sure understand them. We are the bully of the world.
Why - because it doesn't bow down to the mighty USA? Because they threw out an American planted dictator (The Shah)?
Because they are Islamic? (unlike the bible bashing buggers in the capitol)?
or - just because they are un-american.....
Liberalism associated with terrorism.....o bviously the rest of the worlds terrorism - not american terrorism..
The whole scenario just fills me with disgust and contempt for all purveyours of "might is right"
I think the Sen. Graham rhetoric is more aimed at scaring people, so the anti-Iran view is put across by U.S media and so more sheeple believe sanctions should be aimed at Iran.
It's really sad and disturbing that America, after all the chaos it caused in Iraq, now looks to be heading towards beating up Iran, steered by the likes of Graham and that war-mongering gang.
Perhaps an 'Occupy' movement should be started in support of Iran- if that went Worldwide like the Occupy movement went last year, then perhaps millions more people might realize which direction things are heading.
Iran is TRADITIONAL enemy of al Qaida - from Reagan times back when we/alCIAda spent billions to put them in control of Afghanistan.
Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program, Israel has.
Post WW II the US got involved in colonialist wars. It wanted to take over and dominate nations in a master-slave relationship. That was possible in the period of the 1500s to the 1900s but it is just not possible any more. All people on earth are wise to colonialism and no people will submit. They will struggle forever, as is the case with N. Korea, Cuba, Latin America, Iraq (which the US first began invading in the 50s).
The US will never win a war again unless it simply kills all the people there. US wars are now deliberately genocidal and they do intend to kill a large part of the people. this is officially called the Salvadoran Model or Option. Cheney invoked it many times when he ran the US regime. In El Salvador in the 80s, the found that if it could kill or drive into exile about 1/3 of a population it could control the state. Think about Iraq from 1991 on -- 4 mil dead, 4 mil refugees. That's pretty close to 1/3. And it is the plan and it is genocide.
Iran nuclear program and US/Israel war PROPAGANDA (csmonitor)
1. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad never said that Israel should be "wiped off the map." - correct: "this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."
2. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons.
3. Iran has a legitimate need for more energy, which is driving its nuclear efforts.
4. The US and Israel both say Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.
CSmonitor supports the same conclusion ..Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.
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