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Greenwald writes: "The latest person to unwittingly reveal the real reason for viewing an Iranian nuclear capacity as unacceptable was GOP Senator Lindsey Graham."

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad touring an Iranian nuclear facility. (photo: Reuters)
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad touring an Iranian nuclear facility. (photo: Reuters)


The Real Reason the US Fears Iranian Nukes

By Glenn Greenwald, Guardian UK

03 October 12

 

GOP Senator Lindsey Graham echoes a long line of US policymakers: Iran must not be allowed to deter US aggression

n the Washington Post today, Richard Cohen expresses surprise that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is "starting to make some sense" and "wax rationally". Cohen specifically cites this statement from the Iranian president last week:

"Let's even imagine that we have an atomic weapon, a nuclear weapon. What would we do with it? What intelligent person would fight 5,000 American bombs with one bomb?"

Cohen's surprise notwithstanding, numerous Iranian leaders, including Ahmadinejad, have long made the same point. And it's a point so obvious it should not even need to be made. No rational person takes seriously the claim that Iran, even if it did obtain a nuclear weapon, would commit instant and guaranteed national suicide by using it to attack a nation that has a huge nuclear stockpile, which happens to include both the US and Israel. One can locate nothing in the actions of Iran's regime that even suggests irrationality on that level, let alone suicidal impulses.

That Iran will use its nuclear weapons against the US and Israel is rather obviously the centerpiece of the fear-mongering campaign against Tehran, to build popular support for threats to launch an aggressive attack in order to prevent them from acquiring that weapon. So what, then, is the real reason that so many people in both the US and Israeli governments are so desperate to stop Iranian proliferation?

Every now and then, they reveal the real reason: Iranian nuclear weapons would prevent the US from attacking Iran at will, and that is what is intolerable. The latest person to unwittingly reveal the real reason for viewing an Iranian nuclear capacity as unacceptable was GOP Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the US's most reliable and bloodthirsty warmongers.

On Monday, Graham spoke in North Augusta, South Carolina, and was asked about the way in which sanctions were harming ordinary Iranians. Ayman Hossam Fadel was present and recorded the exchange. Answering that question, Graham praised President Obama for threatening Iran with war over nuclear weapons, decreed that "the Iranian people should be willing to suffer now for a better future," and then - invoking the trite neocon script that is hauled out whenever new wars are being justified - analogized Iranian nukes to Hitler in the 1930s. But in the middle of his answer, he explained the real reason Iranian nuclear weapons should be feared:

"They have two goals: one, regime survival. The best way for the regime surviving, in their mind, is having a nuclear weapon, because when you have a nuclear weapon, nobody attacks you."

Graham added that the second regime goal is "influence", that "people listen to you" when you have a nuclear weapon. In other words, we cannot let Iran acquire nuclear weapons because if they get them, we can no longer attack them when we want to and can no longer bully them in their own region.

Graham's answer is consistent with what various American policy elites have said over the years about America's enemies generally and Iran specifically: the true threat of nuclear proliferation is that it can deter American aggression. Thomas Donnelly of the American Enterprise Institute and the New American Century Project has long been crystal clear that this is the real reason for opposing Iranian nuclear capability [my emphasis]:

"When their missiles are tipped with warheads carrying nuclear, biological, or chemical weapons, even weak regional powers have a credible deterrent regardless of the balance of conventional forces … In the post cold war era, America and its allies, rather than the Soviet Union, have become the primary objects of deterrence and it is states like Iraq, Iran and North Korea who most wish to develop deterrent capabilities."

He added:

"The surest deterrent to American action is a functioning nuclear arsenal …

"To be sure, the prospect of a nuclear Iran is a nightmare. But it is less a nightmare because of the high likelihood that Tehran would employ its weapons or pass them on to terrorist groups - although that is not beyond the realm of possibility - and more because of the constraining effect it threatens to impose upon US strategy for the greater Middle East. The danger is that Iran will 'extend' its deterrence, either directly or de facto, to a variety of states and other actors throughout the region. This would be an ironic echo of the extended deterrence thought to apply to US allies during the cold war."

As Jonathan Schwarz has extensively documented, this is what US policy elites have said over and over. In 2001, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld warned:

"Several of these [small enemy nations] are intensely hostile to the United States and are arming to deter us from bringing our conventional or nuclear power to bear in a regional crisis."

In 2002, State Department official Philip Zelikow said that if Iraq were permitted to keep its WMDs, "they now can deter us from attacking them, because they really can retaliate against us." In 2008, Democratic Senator Chuck Robb and GOP Senator Dan Coates wrote an incredibly hawkish Washington Post op-ed all but demanding an attack on Iran, and wrote:

"[A]n Islamic Republic of Iran with nuclear weapons capability would be strategically untenable. It would threaten U.S. national security … While a nuclear attack is the worst-case scenario, Iran would not need to employ a nuclear arsenal to threaten US interests. Simply obtaining the ability to quickly assemble a nuclear weapon would effectively give Iran a nuclear deterrent."

The No 1 concern of American national security planners appears to be that countries may be able to prevent the US from attacking them at will, whether to change their regimes or achieve other objectives. In other words, Iranian nuclear weapons could be used to prevent wars - ones started by the US - and that, above all, is what we must fear.

(Graham's questioner said that she believed Iran was not committed to developing a nuclear weapon, and Graham responded that Israeli leaders had reached the opposite conclusion. That is simply false.)

Whatever one thinks of Iran, the signal the US has sent to the world is unmistakable: any rational government should acquire nuclear weapons. The Iranians undoubtedly watched the US treatment of two dictators who gave up their quest for nuclear weapons - Iraq's Saddam Hussein and Libya's Muammar Gaddafi - and drew the only reasoned lesson: the only way a country can protect itself from US attack, other than full-scale obeisance, is to acquire nuclear weapons. That is precisely why the US and Israel are so eager to ensure they do not.

 

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+49 # Activista 2012-10-03 12:55
One of the FIRST clear, logical article on Iran I read - hope that my "friends" marking this down - are fair enough and give US the fact what is their reality and not:
"every warmonger is the glorious reincarnation of the brave and resolute Winston Churchill. And one who opposes or even questions any proposed war becomes the lowly and cowardly appeaser, Neville Chamberlain. For any and every conflict that arises, the U.S. is in the identical position of France and England in 1937 – faced with an aggressive and militaristic Nazi Germany, will we shrink from our grand fighting duties in appeasement and fear, or will we stand tall and strong and wage glorious war?"
glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2006/04/fighting-all-hitlers_17.html
America - wake up - stop US sanctions against Iran, stop war on Iranian people.
 
 
-40 # brux 2012-10-03 21:24
It would indeed be great if we could war just on Ahmadinejad and his radical terrorist leaders ... but he is hiding behind his innocent civilian people just like the typical terrorist so we cannot.
 
 
+21 # Kootenay Coyote 2012-10-04 06:25
You mean like W Bush?
 
 
+21 # Phlippinout 2012-10-04 07:37
What about the radical leaders in the US? Lets fight them first!
 
 
-1 # brux 2012-10-08 17:04
i'm saying as long as the so-called radical leaders of the US kept the social contract which they are not right now i would be less worried about imperialistic tendencies because competition hegemony and imperialism has been going on ever since there were people.

if we are going to fight for power then we should live up to the example of its civilized use.
 
 
+56 # George Kennedy 2012-10-03 13:30
So, the questions for the American voter are: How important is it that only the U.S. have the capability to launch wars of aggressor or regime change at will? What has 2-decade-long wars of choice brought us? Are we less vulnerable today? Unilateralism only spawns more enemies that do not fear American power. If we accept the notion of an economy in a perpetual state of war, how do we generate the resources to finance other needs when fewer jobs are being created and corporate greed is unconstrained. If we don't ask the questions, we will continue to accept unacceptable outcomes. Just a thought.
 
 
+37 # Activista 2012-10-03 16:33
yes - it is so clear - an economy in a perpetual state of war! What values we are creating? It is like a drug/alcohol addiction - in case of USA fatal disease - not curable.
 
 
-72 # brux 2012-10-03 16:25
Stupid article. These kinds of articles always use some made up scenario to frame the debate in, usually a screwy situation that will not happen and no one is thinking about anyway.

Yes, the Iran regime needs to go. That is what's being disagreed on here, as well as the manner in which it should be removed.

A few major failures of radical Islam and it will start to change all over the world. We can start to see it know with the Arab Spring, but a lot more needs to be done.

This thing of Liberals hanging with and support radical Islam is a real loser - and if we looked far enough I think we'd see the CIA disinformation in there trying to make Liberals look stupid and bad - a precursor for calling them evil and associating liberalism with terrorism ... we liberals/progre ssive should not let that happen.
 
 
+28 # dbriz 2012-10-03 17:53
Maybe you are the plant...sent to inject a bit of war mongering and global policing neocon disinformation disguised as "liberal/progre ssive.
 
 
-34 # brux 2012-10-03 21:20
Where do you see war mongering in my post?
Do you realize just how ridiculous you folks are here supporting the ugliest most intolerant regimes in the planet and pretending to be Liberals? I am way more honest than you are - if there is a plant her, it is you or the clueless faux Liberals here than think they are supporting human rights by crying for Ahmadinejad.
 
 
+35 # guyachs 2012-10-04 05:52
Brux, you know nothing about liberals. We don't support their regime but do support their right to exist. If we make war against every nation with whom we disagree, we'd never stop being at war. I guess I've just summarized our policy for the last 11 years. You guys think we can control and run the world. That's a naive position that's ruining our economy.
 
 
+23 # Glen 2012-10-04 05:59
brux brux brux. Nobody is "supporting the ugliest most intolerant regimes in the planet". But I must differ with you on that statement. Studying dictators over the years, and even today, you surely cannot imagine Iran's leaders to be their equal. Should the U.S. attack and kill just because a leader is a dictator? The U.S. put a bunch of them in place, after all. I don't recall the U.S. stopping most of them when they proceeded to kill thousands of their own people.

I assume you prefer war and aggression on the part of the U.S. even if it bankrupts the country totally.
 
 
0 # brux 2012-10-08 17:06
that's just flat untrue, the US has supported and kept in power one of the the most repugnant regime on the planet - saudi arabia.
 
 
+11 # reiverpacific 2012-10-04 19:08
Quoting brux:
Where do you see war mongering in my post?
Do you realize just how ridiculous you folks are here supporting the ugliest most intolerant regimes in the planet and pretending to be Liberals? I am way more honest than you are - if there is a plant her, it is you or the clueless faux Liberals here than think they are supporting human rights by crying for Ahmadinejad.

Oh, you mean like Saudi Arabia, the most primitive and medieval of the major oil producing nations we pal up to? Remember Dimwits-minor holding hands with prince Al Saud in a supreme piece of theater for the oil conglomerates clustered there, makin' whoopee whilst the Saudi people, especially women, lose limbs and their heads in Riyadh for minor theocratic violations.
Even Terahn is space-age compared to that crowd and many other regimes but as long as they are "Our bad guys" they're just dandy (like Saddam Hussein for a while).
Please open yer eyes to the selectively-pre sented facts that facilitate profits for the corporate state and empire.
Morality, however well-intentione d, has no place in the larger world of the corporate acquisitionist quest for power and profit.
War-mongering is the means to instigate conflict by threat or action and if you support any suggestion of it, then you make it so by default.
BTW. Amedjinidad is not the core power in Iran but the prime minister serving at the whis of the Mullahs. And internal resistance is building.
 
 
0 # brux 2012-10-08 17:06
yeah, case in point, i don' tthink it is war mongering to say we should change there regimes ... including saudi arabia.
 
 
+21 # RMDC 2012-10-04 02:25
I say it is the US regime that needs to go. It is the real curse of the whole planet. The US regime sends out its CIA to run the world's heroine and cocanine trade, it CIA corrupts government officials in every nation. The US regime send out greedy and corrupt corporations all over the world to destroy environments and abuse people.

As far as I am concerned, Iran is fine. I personally don't like theocratic run nations, but I understand how the Islamic revolution came about in Iran and I terrifically support Ayatollah Khomeni. Iran is evolving and growing. It has a great and noble history and a bright future -- if the US/Israel would just leave it alone.

The US is armed to the teeth. It has the most powerful and vicious military in all human history. It is a dying empire and trying to prove that it is not dying by crushing nations and murdering millions of people. the sooner the US regime dies, the better will be life on earth for 99% of the people, animals, and indeed the earth itself.
 
 
+6 # dkonstruction 2012-10-05 07:40
Brux, Iran has not attacked another country in more than 200 years (and have said repeatedly that they would only engage in military actions if they are attacked first). And, they have never attacked nor threatened to attack the US (something we cannot claim since the US overthrew their democratically elected gov't in 1953 and were responsible for installing the Shah which was ultimately what was responsible for bringing to power an Islamic gov't since the Shah banned all secular political opposition). As others have already commented, one can be against US military intervention in Iran (including covert intelligence and covert military "black ops") without in any way supporting the current Iranian gov't.
 
 
0 # Granny Weatherwax 2012-10-05 11:50
Quoting brux:
...usually a screwy situation that will not happen and no one is thinking about anyway.


You mean... like attacking Iran?
Have you been paying attention to the news, lately?
 
 
+30 # LeeBlack 2012-10-03 20:12
It seems to me that Iran feels that with a nuclear weapon they will be free from attack from the Western Nations - it's certainly true in the case of North Korea and Pakistan.

Additionally, Iran has Iraq on its Western border (occupied by Americans), Afghanistan on its Eastern border (occupied by the Coalition) and the U.S. declared Iran part of the Axis of Evil.
 
 
-27 # brux 2012-10-03 21:22
There is a reason Iran is at the center of US pincer action against Islamic radicalism. But I guess you just ignore all that so you can feel sorry for a country with a leader who holds Holocaust denial conventions and talks about destroying another country, and people.
 
 
+8 # MidwestTom 2012-10-04 13:19
Iran may have a nut case in the second most powerful potion in the country, but they are not the country where Muslims that have attacked us have come from. All recent attacks have come from Saudi citizens. The Saudi's are funding the Mosque construction in this country. Obama has increased Muslim immigration into this country to over 350,000 per year. Iran hold the third largest Jewish population on earth. There are twelve Jewish Temples in Tehran. Iran is far more liberal than Saudi Arabia. Iran's citizens are more like us.
 
 
+1 # Linwood 2012-10-05 16:24
Where did you get that bit about the third-largest Jewish population? Patent nonsense. A quick look on Wikipedia disproves your assertion.
 
 
0 # brux 2012-10-08 17:08
good to call him on that it was nonsense.
 
 
0 # brux 2012-10-08 17:08
the muslims who attack "us" come from all over the world including western countries. saudi arabia and iran both send lots of money around the world to support violent jihad.
 
 
+11 # ascertainthetruth 2012-10-04 15:54
Just bomb somebody for exercising their free speech to question the Holocaust. You talking about Isalamic radicalism, you are really a radical. All Ahmedinajad has said in the form of a question, if Europe was responsible for the Holocaust why are the Palestinians paying for it having their land occupied. He is saying, how come Europe did not give them land on their soil to establish a jewish state? That's the context in which he questions the Holocaust. There have made it a criminal offense in some parts of Europe to even raise questions about it. Its okay to bash Islam, mock Islam, ridicule Islam and all Muslims are suppose to accept it. But as soon as someone says anything that the Israelis or Jews don't want to hear they are accused of being an anti-semite, they loose their jobs (Helen Thomas & others) & jailed. Muslims are not stupid, Ahmedinajad is not stupid - they see the double standards.

Why should all foreign policies make Israel more important than anything on this earth. It seems like all nations must submit their crowns to the feet of Israel to be considered legitimate. I think the worst Holocaust that existed upon this earth is in what happen to the Blacks of America in Chattel Slavery and 100 years of lynching under Jim Crow laws. Millions were thrown overboard on the slave ships and they were packed on them like sardines. They suffered a physical Holocaust as well as a psychological Holocaust. .
 
 
-1 # brux 2012-10-08 17:11
> Just bomb somebody for exercising their free speech to question the Holocaust. You talking about Isalamic radicalism, you are really a radical.

Yeah, whatever you say.

Just ask yourself what you would be saying if it was the American president saying stuff like this.

> Why should all foreign policies make Israel more important than anything on this earth.

Oh, come on.

> They suffered a physical Holocaust as well as a psychological Holocaust

yeah, as i said imagine if an American president denied that ever happened? do you think that is a president's job as the representative of his country?
 
 
+4 # dkonstruction 2012-10-05 11:19
Quoting brux:
There is a reason Iran is at the center of US pincer action against Islamic radicalism. But I guess you just ignore all that so you can feel sorry for a country with a leader who holds Holocaust denial conventions and talks about destroying another country, and people.


You seem to have a double-standard ...on the one hand in other posts you have talked about the problem with "radical islam" physically attacking people who criticize Islam (e.g., the recent attack in Libya) and talk about the need to defend freedom of speech but then on the other you seem to be trying to justify an attack on Iran because their President deny's the Holocause (i.e., speech...pretty horrendous speach but speach nonetheless)? Seems you want to have things both ways i.e., they should chill when we criticize them but we should bomb them when they say something we disagree with. And, Iran has been clear that they will only use military force if attacked first a principle we seem to have totally abandoned.
 
 
+21 # RMDC 2012-10-04 02:28
"It seems to me that Iran feels that with a nuclear weapon "

but Iranians don't feel this way. All Iranian leaders have condemned nuclear weapons as immoral. they have said over and over that they are not building an nuclear weapon. It is only us -- Americans -- who think this way. We would build the ultimate weapon just to scare everyone else away. That is our culture and mentality. It is not the mentality or culture of Iran or any Muslim nation.
 
 
-1 # LeeBlack 2012-10-07 08:54
RMDC - I take your point, but I'm not sure 'all' Iranian leaders have condemned nuclear weapons - it's my understanding that it is the religious leaders that condemn. It appears that the underground facilities for enriching uranium do exist and that there is only one reason for their existence. Do you have doubts about the underground facilities?
 
 
+16 # Phillybuster 2012-10-03 21:37
In case of any attack,
Lindsey will be well to the back!
 
 
+37 # X Dane 2012-10-03 22:55
We have certainly done more to hurt Iran over the years, than most Americans know,

When Iran wanted to nationalize IT'S OWN OIL!!! We sent CIA in to depose a LAWFULLY elected prime minister, and put in the SHAH, who was hated by his subjects.

After the revolution, when Saddam attacked Iran. WE gave him CHEMICAL WEAPONS, which he used to kill thousands of Iranians, and later the Iraqi Kurds.

After 9-11 when we started the Afghan war, the Iranians offered to help train the Afghan police.....AND THEN Bush made the stupid AXES OF EVIL speech.

VERY clear message. North Korea has nukes, Iraq had not. IRAQ was ATTACKED.
Korea was not. Conclusion: GET NUKES IN A HURRY, I certainly think the Iranian Regime is a bad one...But I sure understand them. We are the bully of the world.
 
 
+3 # Granny Weatherwax 2012-10-05 11:53
10 thumbs up.
 
 
+33 # spercepolnes 2012-10-03 23:18
"Yes, the Iran regime needs to go."

Why - because it doesn't bow down to the mighty USA? Because they threw out an American planted dictator (The Shah)?
Because they are Islamic? (unlike the bible bashing buggers in the capitol)?
or - just because they are un-american.....
Liberalism associated with terrorism.....o bviously the rest of the worlds terrorism - not american terrorism..
The whole scenario just fills me with disgust and contempt for all purveyours of "might is right"
 
 
+16 # stiver-aloha@hawaii.rr.com 2012-10-04 00:00
I admire Glenn Greenwald always and this article in its overall excellence. However, I might quibble with his last paragraph: I'm still not convinced that, despite all the reasons given to do so, Iran is driving toward a nuclear-weapons "capability" or "arsenal." The Ayatollah Khamenei has ruled that nuclear weapons are not to be had by Iran. I can't pretent to understand his deep and storied culture, but maybe, just maybe, he's hoping that some sane person might come up with, and make happen, a nuclear-free Middle East FOR ALL. If that's not his intention, then, for the valid reasons GG gives, I wouldn't blame Iran a bit for wanting that nuke as a deterrence to those upstarts seeking control and domination of the region and the world.
 
 
+18 # Youtube-GlobalPrison 2012-10-04 04:02
A great article which details the comments and propaganda of U.S Senator Graham and similar types of people who are actually announcing that their intention is to focus on a time of their choosing to attack Iran. People should make sure they have read this article because the sentiments of U.S politicians like Sen.Graham are straight out of the 'command and conquer user manual'.
I think the Sen. Graham rhetoric is more aimed at scaring people, so the anti-Iran view is put across by U.S media and so more sheeple believe sanctions should be aimed at Iran.
It's really sad and disturbing that America, after all the chaos it caused in Iraq, now looks to be heading towards beating up Iran, steered by the likes of Graham and that war-mongering gang.
Perhaps an 'Occupy' movement should be started in support of Iran- if that went Worldwide like the Occupy movement went last year, then perhaps millions more people might realize which direction things are heading.
 
 
-8 # pb83 2012-10-04 04:40
I don't disagree with most of this article's points, but there is one throw-away line about passing nuclear technology to terrorist groups. Unlike a government that wouldn't willingly sacrifice its entire existence for a short-term goal (supposedly, but see Germany and Japan doping just that in the 1940s!), individual terrorists are out to cause as much collateral damage as possible no matter what the personal loss may be. I am far more worried about Iran or N. Korea giving a small amount of plutonium to an allied group that would construct a conventional dirty bomb than I am about either nation launching a suicidal nuclear strike on the US or Israel. As 9/11 and the Madrid bombings prove, terrorist cells are willing to do large casualty damage even at great personal cost, and the terror effect of adding radiation poisoning to the mix is frightening. So we may not have to worry about Teheran launching an ICBM at Washington, but we should worry about some group calling itself an al Qaida affiliate irradiating Miami.
 
 
+5 # Activista 2012-10-04 15:53
al Qaida affiliates are being armed by US/SAUDI/ISRAEL - in Syria, Libya and Iran.
Iran is TRADITIONAL enemy of al Qaida - from Reagan times back when we/alCIAda spent billions to put them in control of Afghanistan.
Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program, Israel has.
 
 
+14 # Phlippinout 2012-10-04 07:51
I believe change is possible but not from the US. I think the US is totally corrupt and helplessly misled by greed and power. Even reading through some of the opinions I find its troubling that so many people are fine with us deciding which leader is right for a country and who should go. Now our government is using drones to decide who should live and who should die . All these opinions coming from a society that has the most violence, the biggest prisons and the most imperialist intentions. The wonderful things that exist in the US were not gained from foreign wars they were fought here at home by its people. After all that fighting for equality we see it falling away. It looks like Americans need to focus on the home front and leave Iran to the Iranians. Our interference is partly to blame for some of the radical crap being shown to us.
 
 
+7 # cordleycoit 2012-10-04 08:53
Face it Americans are looking for a war we can win.Any war any where, with any one. The Senate is filled with murderers, the House with thugs and they all want to spread more death. Iran is the winner of this big door prize because they really do not like us and they have oil to attempt to steal. The Rethugs goofed off in Iraq leaving them with a dandy civil war but we are having trouble stealing the oil. "Kill kill Kill for peace." Tuli Kaufenberger
 
 
+3 # RMDC 2012-10-06 04:14
cord -- isn't that the problem -- "a war we can win." The US really has not won a war since WW II. It has created unbelievable destruction, death, suffering in about 50 nations but it has not been able to defeat their spirit and desire to be free. The US is still at war against N. Korea. It is still making the entire population suffer with blanket-like economic sanctions. But it cannot defeat them.

Post WW II the US got involved in colonialist wars. It wanted to take over and dominate nations in a master-slave relationship. That was possible in the period of the 1500s to the 1900s but it is just not possible any more. All people on earth are wise to colonialism and no people will submit. They will struggle forever, as is the case with N. Korea, Cuba, Latin America, Iraq (which the US first began invading in the 50s).

The US will never win a war again unless it simply kills all the people there. US wars are now deliberately genocidal and they do intend to kill a large part of the people. this is officially called the Salvadoran Model or Option. Cheney invoked it many times when he ran the US regime. In El Salvador in the 80s, the found that if it could kill or drive into exile about 1/3 of a population it could control the state. Think about Iraq from 1991 on -- 4 mil dead, 4 mil refugees. That's pretty close to 1/3. And it is the plan and it is genocide.
 
 
+8 # JNWesner 2012-10-04 09:16
brux, you're dangerous. You say "It would indeed be great if we could war just on Ahmadinejad and his radical terrorist leaders ... " as if war is great. It isn't, and in this case it isn't warranted. So Iran has a bad government? Many countries do, but it isn't our business to change their government. (We have enough trouble with ours.) When we, or others, topple a bad government, often a worse one sprouts in its place. Let's let Iran solve Iran's problems.
 
 
+9 # sapereaudeprime 2012-10-04 10:11
Aw, shucks. And Lindsey Graham is such a cute little gay bitch of Moloch, for someone who never wore a uniform in his life, much less saw combat.
 
 
+8 # Activista 2012-10-04 15:47
Again well documented and factual article -
Iran nuclear program and US/Israel war PROPAGANDA (csmonitor)
1. President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad never said that Israel should be "wiped off the map." - correct: "this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time."
2. Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons.
3. Iran has a legitimate need for more energy, which is driving its nuclear efforts.
4. The US and Israel both say Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.
CSmonitor supports the same conclusion ..Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.
 
 
0 # Namaimo 2012-10-07 17:22
France has nuclear weapons. Why are we allowing France to exist?
 

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