Cole writes: "Mitt Romney may want to rethink his 'visceral' reaction to the US embassy in Cairo's tweet condemning the group's hate speech."
Young Egyptian holds sign apologizing for the Benghazi attack. (photo: Reuters)
Romney Jumps the Shark: Libya, Egypt and the Butterfly Effect
13 September 12
he late science fiction writer Ray Bradbury authored a short story about time travelers. They were careful, when they went back to the Jurassic, not to change anything, but one of them stepped on a butterfly. When they got back to the present, the world was slightly different.
When scientists studying complexity put forward the idea that small initial events could have large effects in non-linear, dynamic systems like the weather, they chose the term 'butterfly effect." One of the images students of weather instanced was that a butterfly flapping its wings might set off minor turbulence that ultimately turned into a hurricane. (In the older model of Newtonian physics, small events have small effects and large events have large effects, so you wouldn't expect a minor action to produce big changes).
So the Associated Press did a careful investigation of the 'Sam Bacile' who supposedly directed the hate film, 'The Innocence of Muslims.' And AP found that probably he does not exist, but is a persona used by a convicted Coptic Egyptian fraudster, Nakoula Bassely Nakoula.
But the story gets more complex. Nakoula had Coptic and evangelical associates in the shooting of the film, including Steve Klein, a former Marine and current extremist Christian who has helped train militiamen in California churches and has led "protests outside abortion clinics, Mormon temples and mosques." My guess is that most of the Egyptian Copts involved are converts to American-style fundamentalism.
The Egyptian Coptic church has roundly condemned the hateful film they made smearing the Prophet Muhammad.
Anyway, the bigotry of the edited film, directed at Muslims, is part of a movement of religious prejudice that also targets . . . Mormons.
Mitt Romney may want to rethink his 'visceral' reaction to the US embassy in Cairo's tweet condemning the group's hate speech.
Then it turns out that the film was shot in such a way that there was originally no mention of the Prophet Muhammad in the script, and the cast had no idea what they were getting themselves into, and then the name of Muhammad was clumsily dubbed into the final edit.
So, the film was from the beginning a fraud. It was directed by a fraud. It was promoted by a militia trainer. And Nakoula marketed it fraudulently as the work of a fictitious Israeli-American Jewish real estate agent, 'Sam Bacile,' and falsely said it had been funded by "a hundred Jewish donors."
The group behind the film, in other words, managed to evoke all the classic themes of anti-Semitism as a way of disguising the Coptic and evangelical network out of which the 'film' came. When they weren't busy picketing Mormons and defaming Muslims they were trying to get Jews killed for their own smears of Islam!
Of course, given the strident hatred of Muslims promoted by a handful of Jewish American extremists such as Pamela Geller, David Horowitz, Daniel Pipes and others, in which they gleefully join with white supremacists and Christian fundamentalists, it was only a matter of time before their partners in hate turned on them and used them.
The bad, dubbed 'film' only had one theater showing in some dowdy place in LA. Then in July the group had the trailer for it dubbed into Arabic with subtitles as well, and put it on Youtube, where it was found by strident Egyptian Muslim fundamentalist Sheikh Khaled Abdallah, who had it shown on al-Nas television and caused the sensation that led to Tuesday's demonstrations in Cairo and Benghazi. As I argued yesterday, the vigilante extremists or 'jihadis' have been left on the garbage pile of history by the democratic elections in Egypt and Libya, and are whipping up the issue of this film in a desperate attempt to remain relevant.
Aware of the building sensation about the film, an employee of the US embassy in Cairo condemned it as hate speech before the rally began outside its premises.
In other words, this is a non-film and a non-story, a fraud, promoted by the worst people in each culture.
In Cairo, the rally allegedly got out of hand because the Ultras or soccer ruffians joined in, and they were probably the ones who tore down the American flag and ran up a black Muslim-fundamentalist one. Ultras are not fundamentalists but they are mischievous and resent authority, so a superpower that backs the army and police they hate might be a target of their wrath. There may have also been a handful of al-Qaeda supporters there, not surprising on the anniversary of September 11. The crowd at the American embassy was tiny by Egyptian protest standards.
In Benghazi, Hadeel Al Shalchi got the story. She talked to Libyan special forces members who explained that there were three stages to the events there. First, there was a demonstration. Then when the police and consulate guards tried to curb it, the demonstrators got angry and some of them went for guns and a rocket propelled grenade, so that the consulate was set on fire and looted. It was at that second stage that US ambassador Chris Stevens and another diplomat were killed (Stevens inhaled too much smoke in the fire and the other man was shot). Stevens' death is a great tragedy and irony, since he was liaison to the transitional national council during the Libyan revolution and many Libyans lionize him. Why in the world he was in an insecure minor consulate in a provincial city on September 11 is a mystery to me.
Then 37 embassy personnel escaped to a rural safe house. The Libyan special forces commander charged with evacuating them to Tripoli at first was stymied by not having enough vehicles for so many people. Then the safe house came under fairly precise mortar fire from members of an al-Qaeda affiliate operating in Benghazi, which must have been surveilling consular personnel. Finally, the Libyan government forces got the Americans to the airport and they flew back to the capital of Tripoli.
It should be remembered that Libyan forces fought and risked their lives to protect Americans. In opinion polling in Eastern Libya, the United States has a 60% favorability rating, while the Salafis or hard line Muslims stand at only 28% favorable.
It was while all that was going on in Cairo and Benghazi that Mitt Romney took it into his head to condemn Barack Obama for the tweet issued by the Cairo embassy before the demonstration. He alleged that Obama had *reacted* to the embassy attacks by showing some sympathy for the attackers. This allegation is untrue and absurd, but Romney and his running mate Paul Ryan went on repeating it all day Wednesday.
Romney was caught on camera walking away from that shameful performance with a shark-like grin on his face. Since he was talking about matters of life and death, the expression was inappropriate. But a darker theory is that he was grinning about having stuck it to Obama.
Romney's politicization of September 11 and of the horrible events in Benghazi was poorly received among opinion leaders, including prominent Republicans, and some observers suggest that this miscalculation may have been a decisive nail in the coffin of his sputtering campaign.
Meanwhile, the Libyan government apologized for and vehemently condemned the attack on the consulate and the killing of its personnel. And, on Wednesday Libyans staged pro-American demonstrations in several cities.
In Egypt, in contrast, small demonstrations were held again in front of the US embassy, until police pushed the activists back. When, on Thursday morning, protesters set two cars afire with Molotov cocktails, police arrested 12 of them. The police have the embassy surrounded and have closed the roads leading to it in Garden City.
Egyptian President Muhammad Morsi, a leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, fell short of strongly condemning the Cairo and Benghazi attacks. Late on Wednesday the Muslim Brotherhood finally retweeted comments of one of its other leaders, Khairat al-Shater, in condemnation of the attacks. Nevertheless, the Brotherhood is sponsoring rallies protesting the film on Friday, a 'day of rage.' Morsi is no doubt worried that religious and political currents to his right will outflank him on the issue of the blasphemous film and its American provenance. But Morsi has a Ph.D. from the US and surely knows that the US government cannot suppress films, and it is shameful that he did not condemn forthrightly the killing of Ambassador Stevens and the others.
In Tunisia, Salafis rallied on Wednesday in front of the US embassy, but were fairly quickly dispersed by police deploying tear gas. Tunisian president Moncef Marzouki denounced the killing of Stevens and the others as an "act of terrorism."
So the Butterfly Effect set off by a low-budget bad propaganda film gotten up by two-bit frauds and Christian supremacists, and then promoted by two-bit Egyptian and Libyan fundamentalists, has provoked some squalls and cost the lives of four good men.
The storm provoked by this butterfly has revealed character on an international scale. The steely determination of an Obama to achieve justice, the embarrassing grandstanding of a Romney, the destructive hatred of a handful of extremists in Cairo and Benghazi, and the decency and warmth toward the US of the Libyan crowds, all were thrown into stark relief by the beating of the butterfly's wings.
In the end, the violence and extremism of the hardliners on both sides is a phantasm of the past, not a harbinger of the future. The wave of democratic politics sweeping the region has left the haters behind, reducing them to desperate and senseless acts of violence that will gain them no good will, no popularity, no political credibility.
A little-noted major event of Wednesday was the democratic selection of a new prime minister in Libya for the first time in the country's history. Mustafa Abushagur defeated the Muslim Brotherhood candidate handily. Abushagur for a long time taught college in the US, at the University of Alabama Huntsville. Libyans again showed themselves nationalist and non-fundamentalist. This remarkable achievement, and what it portends for the shape of Libyan politics, will be drowned out by the atrocity in Benghazi, but it is the development that is likely to be marked by future historians as a turning point in Libya and in the Middle East.
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Oh they haven't crawled under a rock yet, Rick. They've retreated for the moment waiting for Rmoney and Ryan to cook up other stupid conspiracy theories that they can espouse in these posts. And, for sure - as services for the fallen diplomats are being carried out at Andrews AFB - the cowardly R & R boys have gone on the campaign trail doubling down on their original statements that the President somehow supports the groups that are attacking embassies.
The Regressives know full well how to turn their problems into yours. With the exception of the attack on the Libyan embassy, all the other demonstrations were in response to the Right-Wing video meant specifically to inflame Muslim societies. Rmoney's chief adviser says it wouldn't have happened if Rmoney were the Commander In Chief. I agree! If Rmoney were in charge, we'd have troops on the ground in all of these countries, and especially in Iran. Remember he wants to add 100,000 troops to our military - for what he hasn't yet said.
And, during this sad moment for our country, it's business as usual for Rmoney. I haven't seen any respite from attacks on the President, nor any time taken for expressions of grief from the the Regressive "leader" - the man who would be president, or, better yet, KING.
NJnevtS, thanks for your comment. I have no problem with honest disagreements and never assume or believe that this means the other person is not genuine or somehow a bad person because of it. Depends on what they have to say and how it is said.
I have been dismayed at the number of comments i have seen recently on RSN in response to the recent events in the middle east (and including the recent anti-islamic video) that i have taken to be sometimes veiled and sometimes not so veiled examples of anti-semitism.
I would always hope that i live up to your description of me as (perhaps) "an independent thinker who speaks his mind and conscience"...i would surely accept the moniker.
Well, I for one am right here.
I wouldn't have been surprised had the filmmaker turned out to be Jewish, even Israeli, despite the anti-Semitic element: there is, after all, such a thing as misdirection.
But I remember Oklahoma City, and how in the first few days right-wingers gleefully attributed that bombing to Muslims. When it turned out that home-grown "Christian" crazies were responsible, the response of some of them (yes, former Rep. Helen Chenoweth of Idaho, I'm talking about you) said President Bill Clinton had done it to divert attention from Whitewater. I don't recall any apologies being issued to anyone on that occasion either.
One can only hope that intelligent, informed people of all political persuasions will see Romney's actions for what they are: pure political grandstanding with no regard for the consequences to the people of the US and the people of the entire world.
My wish is that we can all join together in hopes of healing for the survivors and their loved ones; and in hopes of bringing to justice the multiple perpetrators of these atrocities.
Obama is so much better than Romney, but Obama should know better and understand much better than he does.
Carter got an October Surprise, and the attempt to give it to Obama didn't work.
Obama has no business talking about freedom of religion, any more than praising freedom of expression if some Republican hired ear plugged porn stars in front of bright lights to have sex on a highway ramp causing a traffic jam preventing the Libertarians from turning their ballot petitions in on time,
http://readersupportednews.org/pm-section/212-212/13706-insulting-muslims-contrasted-with-the-n-word-and-shouting-vicious-p-at-a-police-officers-funeral
Bottom line, does this mean that Mitt Romney is planning to go water skiing real soon, and proceed at full speed up an inclined plane that is floating in the water, with the intent of making that jump into space while the cameras are rolling, the perfect photo-op?
Am I the only person who sees the evil hand of Karl Rove behind this YouTube film?
How many times have we seen this shit (in Israel & US in particular): people in the middle begin having peaceful dialogues, the warmongers, murderers, & haters on BOTH sides feel left out, so they do everything possible to restart a war, any war.
such people are the mire of the world.
No, the David Horowitz to whom he is referring is an ultra-conservat ive academic who has been going after "liberals" particularly in academia for years (since he abandoned his early left perspective as shown in his first book The Free World Colossus...stil l a very good book despite the fact that Horowitz now disavows it).
While there is no doubt Romney and Rove are hateful cowards, I doubt Rove had anything to do with the film other than possibly inspiring it. It's so ineptly done and Rove puts out high quality garbage.
I concur. Comparing the extremes of Christian and Muslim fundamentalism, it would seem that the latter does far greater damage on an international scale when the "crazies" are unleashed. Where is the world-reach of Westboro Baptist Church, by comparison? But then I sit myself down and ask whether Mitt Romney's smirk isn't a reflection of the Smirking Chimp who preceded him in a bid for the Presidency. How may World Fires are still burning as a result of the "Christian" fundamentalism of Bush and his cronies?
Fundamentalism is fundamentalism and it serves no useful purpose to start saying in effect "their fundamentalism is worse than ours."
And, in an era that includes the internet and things like Facebook and Twitter "the world-reach of WEstboro Baptist Church" or those that made the recent anti-Islamic video are indeed world-wide as their hateful message is immediately transmitted around the world. So, it no longer matters how many official members or followers they have; their impact can and is still be felt globally.
Paula, Right-Wingers don't believe in nuance. Remember Bush, "I don't do nuance" in response to a Kerry statement. For these guys it's black or white, with me or against me. There is no in between for these Neanderthals, and Rmoney - in his efforts to shore up his creds with the Regressives - is all in, hook, line and sinker.
One of the great things that happened during the revolution was that Muslims came out to defend Coptics who were being attacked and Coptics participatedin the protests in Tahir Square and other places...hopefu lly, the right-wingers in both the Muslim and Coptic communities will totally destroy these alliances and continue to press for genuine economic, political and social democracy for all Egyptians.
This whole incomprehensibl e drama points to one clear fact, religion, all religions are a man-made curse on the entire human race. A human that had become civilized would band this rediculus foolishness, this waste of life. Each of these modern cults only serve a ancient male dominated subculture that contributes nothing to the advancement of mankind! But it actually does just the opposite, it try's at every turn to drag us back to a more primitive, cruel time and mankind.
It is also plain where all this fundamentalist rage comes from, the masses have been leaving the religions in droves for years as some civilazation has happend in spite of all the money and conspiracy's to stop it in the world and these cultists feel they have to force the end of mankind soon, to fit with the end of the human race that match their prophesy's.
And in the process take all of us, welling or not along. Killing men over a stupid movie constructed by clowns, so stupid, so wasteful, especially when the human race has so many real problems to solve and needs energy and modern thinking creatures to solve them. As someone, Shakespear in one of his roman plays related, "The trouble dear Brutus is not in the stars, but in us"!
Does your assessment of the "moslim religion" include the democratically elected, secular Mossadegh gov't in Iran (before we overthrew it in 1953) or what about Egypt under Nasser or the early days of the Quaddafi gov't in Libya where, among other things, a guaranteed national income was established and the revenues from their oil were distributed to the Libyan people? Your lumpting together of all Muslims is not better than those that lumb all Israeli's together or all Americans for that matter.
Let his days be few; and let another take his office
May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow.
May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes.
May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor.
May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children.”
BTW, this "prayer" (for the assassination of Obama) was sent out to all his Republican colleagues by Kansas Republican Speaker of the House Mike O'Neal.
In my community, some cars are sporting a bumper sticker which says "Prayer for Obama" and follows with a reference to this psalm. It's sickening.
This is not the entire text of Psalm 109.
"...His office" is just one translation. Others say "his charge" or "his hoarded wealth".
Both Hebrew and Christian Biblical scholars consider Ps 109 to be one of several "imprecatory" Psalms, that is, Psalms that wish for God to bring down terrible punishments on certain individuals. Most Jewish and Christian Biblical scholars believe that these Psalms serve as examples of an individual baring his or her soul to God -- just letting it all hang out. There's no saying that God agrees with the Psalmist's angry desires, but that God accepts that in their most desperate moments, people just fully open themselves up to God, "warts and all," as the expression goes.
When people try to interpret various scriptures -- Hebrew, Christian, Muslim, any others -- they may honestly reach different conclusions. I just hope that the guiding principle in their interpretations is to find the intended meanings rather than twist things to suit personal agendas.
In an ideal world, perhaps, we would have people searching for "intended meanings," but that wouldn't generally be anyone in the GOP, the Tea Party, or Evangelical Christians.
However you would be over qualified by a ton.
As someone who is frequently accused of being anti-Semitic, because of my determination to expose zionasty racially motivayed murder, (genocide),I am concerned by your post. I am sensitive to your repeated attempts to confuse people about the nature of criticisms about zio-thugs, with racial motives.
The fact that involvement of a Copt has been exposed in this instance, does not diminish the points about hypocrite supporters of state practititioners of racially motivated murder, (natzis), who defend Israel. Critics of racially motivated are not being anti - Semitic.
Ok, let's break down your comment and reaction to my post.
1) you claim that i have made "repeated attempts to confuse people about the nature of criticisms about zio-thugs with racial motives." How so? In my other posts i have identified myself as an anti-zionist jew who is completely opposed to the policies of Israel regarding its treatiment of the Palestinians as well as the indingenous Sephardic Jews and have opposed any attack on Iran (as well as opposing all US military intervention in the Middle East as a whole (including the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and now Syria).
To be continued....
still more to come...
4) So, clearly, i have never said that critics of Israeli state policies are anti-semitic -- in fact, i have pointed out that due to my own views and the fact that I am Jewish, consersavtive Jews here in the US label me as either a "self-hater" or an "anti-semite."
5) At the same time, I am fully aware that much of the left here in the US has not critique at all of the Arab gov't's and thus their criticisms are levelled only at the policies of the Israeli gov't and not at the samet time of the anti-democratic , repressive and reactionary Arab gov't's (though i have also been clear that there have been exceptions including the democratically elected gov't in Iran which we overthrew in 1953; Nasser's Egypt and Libya in the early days of Quaddafi). do you have any anaysis or critique of the Arab gov't's or only those of the Israeli gov't.
So, again, what is your "concern" and how am i trying to confuse people. It is all to easy to make unsustantiated accusations and to appear to be the "voice of reason" but it takes more than just calling folks natzis (sic) or accusing everyone who disagrees with you as being "hypocrite supporters of state practitioners of racially motivated murder".
Sadly, it is very telling that your comment regarding anti-semitic elements/perspe ctives in the American left has received (as of when i'm writing this) 6 thumbs downs. It is also telling that these thumbs down come with no response or comment regarding the substance of what you wrote. I think this proves your point.
I agree with what you write though, while I believe that there are many Israeli's that oppose the policies of their gov't (even today polls show that 20% oppose any attack on Iran and up until the suicide bombers went inside the "green zone" the majority consistantly supported the two-state "land for peace" solution along the lines of the pre-1967 borders) i don't think that there has ever been an israeli gov't (i.e., either Labor or Likud) that has genuinely sought peace along these lines or to put it another way there has never been a serious "offer" from Israel to create a viable contiguous Palestinian state in the West Bank despite the propaganda regarding the "generous offer" that Barak supposedly made and which Arafat rejected (rightly and understandably in my view).
But scratch a critic of Israel who uses who uses terms like zionazi and you will likely find a Jew-hater underneath.
Another tragedy here is that Ambassador Chris Stephens was a friend to the Libyans, the people we helped to overcome a tyrant dictator.
There are two serious needs here: 1. People claiming to be "Christians" need to stop spreading hatred; and 2. Muslim fundamentalists need to stop killing innocent people because of actions of a shameful few.
It's time that reason prevailed and some real Christian charity along with it.
Just today, Romney (the liar-in-chief), accused the President of the United States of being a liar, and he further predicted that Obama will be using the well placed lie in all the upcoming debates. Hollywood can't come up with anything close to the things Mitt and his 'home crew' have created.
I think this guy has been a little prince his whole life, and now he's stepped in the ring for the first time. He appears scared shitless.
Romeny's comment was hardly just a "mistake" since it was claiming that the statement put out by our Embassy in Cairo regarding the video was in response to the violent reaction of people in Egypt and the attack on the Embassy in Libya when in fact the comment put out by the Embassy was before any of this happened. This was hardly an "innocent" mistake but rather a calculated attempt to make the current administration appear to have been making excuses for violent attacks that in fact had not even yet occured.
Were it only true.
8^)
The main functions of diplomats revolve around the representation and protection of the interests and nationals of the sending state, as well as the promotion of information and friendly relations.
It would be self-destructiv e to employ your isolationistic ideas.
the last president who served in our armed forces was George Herbert Walker Bush. Service provides a perspective that is unique. These missteps may continue forever. Service is more important than being a Harvard lawyer like Mitt Romney or Barack Obama. Setting a minimum standard such as two years service might be considered unfair to some. It is worth considering.
Exellent point DerProfessor to which I would add the expulsion of "heretics" and "infidels" such as the the Jews from Spain and England or the persecution of the Puritans in England (who, of course, once they escaped persecution in England then wanted to force others here to conform to their views).
Having now read some more of your stuff, I must admit you don't seem to be such a rabid zio-nasty as some. But a few times now I have come across imitation liberals, who are right on the freedom thing,(even about Israel), until someone exposes zio-thug brainwashing, imitation democracy and eagerness to label people, as in your post,
"and then got all uppity when some raised the anti-semitic language/implic ations/tone of some of the posts"
Such as where ?
I don't believe my initial post was in any way "indicative of a zionasty looking to pin the anti-semitic slur" on anybody. I was responding both to the many comments over the last few days by people who were so quick to say essentially "see, we knew a jew/the jews/israel had to be the ones that made this video" (which i believe betrays anti-semitic assumptions and belief) and then to the very noticable lack of posts to the new article saying that in fact this was not the case.
If i read a comment i think is racist against any group i say so so it's not about pinning anything on anyone but rather responding to what people say and how they say it.
As for those that i thought "got all uppity" when the issue of anti-semitism was raised just go back and read the posts in the articles on this stuff over the last several days. you will also see there that i have as many posts responding to and criticizing those that were bashing Islam or Muslims as i did to those making comments that i thought were anti-semitic.
Finally, since you now believe that i am not "such a rabid zio-nasty as some" i take it that you think i am still a "zio-nssty" (though just less so than others) so if you would please tell me in what way(s) am i in any way a "zio-nasty"?
"The pretext for the demonstrations/ attacks was a youtube film by Muslim-hater Sam Bacile, an Israeli-America n ‘produced' by provocateur Rev. Terry Jones, he of the Qur'an-burning fame."
He choose to not even use the term "alleged" The anti-semites on this site jumped on his bandwagon and accused the Israeli government of all sorts of conspiracies. Your readers deserve a more objective writer than Cole has proven himself to be. His biases are obvious.
I disagree with the Catholic bishops about birth control and women's rights, but I am not anti-Catholic.
I disagree with Pat Robertson, Jim Robison, the late Jerry Falwell and their fundamentalist beliefs, but I am neither anti-Christian nor anti-Protestant.
I disagree with European nations about austerity as the cure for recession, but I am not a Europhobe.
AND, I disagree with the government of Israel about its unwillingness to negotiate in good faith for peace with the Palestinians and their building settlements in the West Bank, AND no way am I anti-Semitic or anti-Israeli.
These are not difficult distinctions. It is baffling to me that so many people conflate disagreements about policy with hatred of peoples.
When the Israeli government is run by fanatics like Bibi, then it's hardly anti-semitic to rail against their actions. I care deeply about the people of Israel who have to be some of the bravest on earth with what they have to deal with. And if Romney is elected (proving there is no God) I won't hate the American people of which I am one. But I will justifiably detest the government under him.
This was nothing but hate and deceit, even the actors did not know what was going on, the hate comments dubbed. The 100 Jewish donors didn't exist. Nakoula Basseley the so-called director never was involved in photographs much less an entire film, who specialized in fake Social Security accounts and probably was paid well for lending his name. He may not have know he was the only real name on the film trailer and that the people calling him with offers of money might have been using a cell phone near his house.
If Basseley is assassinated we will never know which group had the most to gain and Romney's election might be assured.
In Syria there is a rash of atrocities committed in such a way as to seem the other side did it. Now the whole world is unsafe from provocateurs pretending to be what they are not. Charles Manson was charged with ordering the murder of several people not in trying to sponsor a world-wide catastrophe, perhaps he should face new charges.
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