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Intro: "ARM the Syrian rebels! And, while we're at it, give the Israelis the tools they need - bunker-busters, refueling aircraft - so that if they decide to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, they'll get it right the first time. Both calls have resonated across Washington in recent days. The demand to level the playing field against the Syrian government - which is getting arms from Russia and Iran - came from Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Talk of increasing the credibility of Israel's threat to flatten Iran's far-flung nuclear facilities has arisen in many quarters."

Free Syrian Army fighters stand guard in Idlib, northwestern Syria, near the Turkish border, on February 20, 2012. (photo: Bulent Kilic/AFP/Getty Images)
Free Syrian Army fighters stand guard in Idlib, northwestern Syria, near the Turkish border, on February 20, 2012. (photo: Bulent Kilic/AFP/Getty Images)



Syria, Iran and the Obama Doctrine

By David E. Sanger, The New York Times

27 February 12

RM the Syrian rebels! And, while we're at it, give the Israelis the tools they need - bunker-busters, refueling aircraft - so that if they decide to strike Iran's nuclear facilities, they'll get it right the first time.

Both calls have resonated across Washington in recent days. The demand to level the playing field against the Syrian government - which is getting arms from Russia and Iran - came from Senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham. Talk of increasing the credibility of Israel's threat to flatten Iran's far-flung nuclear facilities has arisen in many quarters, from the Republican presidential candidates to think tanks that have charged that the Obama administration has not yet made "all options are on the table" a credible threat.

So far, the White House isn't biting on arms to the Syrian rebels, and it has been deliberately vague on what kind of technology it has shared with the Israelis. The strategic calculus in the two cases is quite different. A humanitarian intervention in Syria would almost certainly become synonymous with a move to engineer regime change, just as the military action in Libya did. The argument over aiding Israel comes down to managing the very public dispute between Washington and Jerusalem over what is the effective way - bombs, sanctions or covert action - to set back, once again, Iran's chances of getting the ultimate weapon.

In a post-Iraq, post-Afghanistan, post-Libya world, the White House reaction to both calls illuminates the conditions under which the 44th president is willing to use force, or see it used by others. But it also sheds light on that ill-defined concept that the administration refuses to call the Obama Doctrine.

Syria and Iran are hardly unrelated problems. In the minds of many on President Obama's team, nothing would undercut Iran's capability to cause trouble in the region faster than if the mullahs lost Bashar al-Assad, Syria's brutal president, as their only ally in the Arab world. The argument commonly heard inside and outside the White House these days is that if the Assad government cracks, Iran's ability to funnel weapons to Hezbollah and Hamas will be badly damaged - and its influence will wither accordingly. Similarly, if Iran's effort to walk up to the edge of a nuclear weapons capability can be set back with a few well-placed GBU-31 bunker-busters, the country's hopes of challenging Israel and Saudi Arabia to be the region's biggest power will be deferred.

Or so the theory goes.

Usually the appeal of providing arms and technology for someone else to do the fighting is undeniable. It's why Franklin D. Roosevelt invented Lend-Lease to provide planes, tanks and ammunition to the British in 1941 when they were broke, and it's how Ronald Reagan got into trouble in the Iran-contra deal, an effort to arm Nicaraguan rebels by diverting funds from a secret arms deal with the country Washington is now sanctioning and sabotaging. At a moment when polls show the country has had its fill of ground wars and the White House talks of "nation-building at home," there is something tempting about handing off weaponry to the rebels and the Israelis, wishing them good luck and reminding them to drop a line back to the White House if any of it works.

"If it was only that easy," one senior national security official told me last week.

The first question that White House officials say they are asking about the Syrian rebels is the same question they asked about Libya 10 months ago: Who are these guys?

In Libya, Mr. Obama took a pass on arming the rebel fighters, electing to join in a NATO air campaign instead. (As it turned out, the United Arab Emirates provided a large number of small arms to help overthrow Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi.)

In Syria, where the death toll is already above 6,000 by most estimates, there is no equivalent NATO operation; so far, a limited intervention to spur a coup or create a "safe zone" for Syrian civilians near the Turkish border is all still talk. So at first glance, providing arms looks like the next-best option. But the worry is that what started as a protest movement has morphed into what Steven Heydemann, a Syria expert at the United States Institute of Peace, described as "a dangerous and uncoordinated array of armed opposition fighters." While there is an entity called the Free Syrian Army - not to be confused with the civilian Syrian National Council - it is less an army than bands of free-form militias. Some are tribal; some are linked by regional or ethnic bonds; there is no real command structure.

THE lesson of past conflicts is that while providing weaponry may help overthrow an odious government, the weapons are often later used to settle scores. The weapons provided to the mujahedeen in Afghanistan helped drive out the Soviets and made for great cinema in "Charlie Wilson's War." But some of those weapons were turned on United States troops after the 2001 American-led invasion.

The concerns about providing high-tech arms to the Israelis are entirely different. There is no closer American ally, and its military is deservedly regarded as among the most disciplined and tightly commanded on the globe. But President Obama now faces the same decision that President George W. Bush did in 2008, when the Israelis sought the bunker-busting bombs and refueling capability they would need for a truly broad, sustained attack on Iran's far-flung nuclear sites.

Inside the Bush White House the Israeli request incited a huge fight. Vice President Dick Cheney, who by his own account advocated an American strike on a nuclear reactor in Syria (the Israelis did the job when Mr. Bush demurred), urged that the Israelis be given everything they needed. The majority of the Bush national security team, however, concluded that if the Israelis were given the technology, it greatly heightened the chances they would use it - and risk another Middle East war. The Obama team has come to the same conclusion.

"This is all about guiding the Israelis to a choice that is most likely to delay the Iranian project without prompting the blowback of an airstrike," one senior member of Mr. Obama's team said after a delegation led by Thomas E. Donilon, the national security adviser, returned from Israel last weekend. The administration argues, publicly and privately, that a mix of sanctions and covert action will be more effective. Which takes us to the Obama doctrine. When it comes to the use of force, it seems to boil down to this: Mr. Obama is willing to use unilateral force when America's direct national interests are threatened - the bin Laden raid is the most vivid example. But when the threat is more diffuse, more a matter of preserving global order, his record shows that he insists on United Nations resolutions and the participation of many allies.

This explains why the Israelis are straining so hard to make the case that in a few years Iran could have a missile capability that could reach the United States - they want to fit Iran into that first category. And it explains Mr. Obama's hesitance to enter a civil war in Syria, where the daily scenes are horrific but American interests are indirect, at best.

David E. Sanger is the chief Washington correspondent for The New York Times.

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+29 # Merlin 2015-11-04 19:08
Thanks for this insider's historical perspective. I look forward to your new book!
 
 
+54 # wrknight 2015-11-04 19:31
Someone recently said to me that Vladimir Putin is the greatest threat to world peace. I had to object saying that, as a threat to world peace, Vladimir Putin is a mere shadow compared to Robert Kagan. Kagan and his illustrious spouse Victoria Nuland will happily set the world on fire for fun and profit.
 
 
+26 # reiverpacific 2015-11-04 19:58
Christ all-amighty with knobs on.
Irving Krystol ONLY cosseted and cajoled the two most clueless, inward-looking and in Dimwits' case at least, vapidly-incurio us -plus Reagan's accelerating Alzheimer's, was the ideal breeding ground for the coven of brain-damaged patsies listed in the article and their spawn, still pushing endless war!
What an achievement!
 
 
+7 # bmiluski 2015-11-05 11:09
Since saint ronney was nothing more than a B-list actor playing the role of president, no cajoling was needed. Kristol was part of the neo-con cabal that ran the U.S. during saint ronny's and Georgie's reigns.
 
 
+4 # Billsy 2015-11-05 15:53
Indeed, and he begat a fast-talking pundit son who continues to receive airtime in spite of the fact that every time he opens his mouth with a prediction about anything he's proven wrong.
 
 
+28 # munza1 2015-11-04 20:17
Fascinating piece. Apparently we Americans have no sense of history so this does give needed historical perspective. The truth of historical amnesia is that no one has been held accountable for the Iraq disaster and if Rubio say gets elected we'll have the same neo-con line up and heaven knows if Hillary is elected it's not impossible the same crew will show up.
 
 
+22 # Radscal 2015-11-04 22:16
 
 
+24 # Radscal 2015-11-04 22:17
 
 
+24 # Radscal 2015-11-04 22:18
 
 
+15 # geraldom 2015-11-05 01:03
Radscal, you know what I believe. With the actual physical and visual evidence, I know beyond the shadow of any doubt that 9/11 was a false-flag event, an inside job by the Bush/Cheney administration to falsely justify to the American people and to the world that the United States has been given the full right and justification to do whatever it feels like doing in the world, including massive violations of international law, and massive violations of war crimes and crimes against humanity, not to mention the complete destruction of the U.S. Constitution and the U.S. Bill of Rights, and they along with the Obama administration have succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.

As long as people continue to believe that 9/11 was perpetrated by Osama Bin Laden and al Qaida, the world will continue on its path to its own self-destruction.

(Continued)
 
 
+6 # geraldom 2015-11-05 01:04
 
 
+4 # geraldom 2015-11-05 10:38
Radscal, if you can get a chance, I'd suggest that you watch today's Democracy Now program, November 5th. As usual, the first 15 or so minutes are dedicated to the news highlights of yesterday, but the rest of the program is an interview by Amy Goodman of Viggo Mortensen, one of the stars of "The Lord of the Rings."

I first noticed Viggo Mortensen when he was interviewed by Charlie Rose in 2002 on his upcoming debut of "Lord of the Ring - The Two Towers." Reference the following URL:

http://www.brego.net/viggo/viggo-politics.php

I don't remember how I caught this program since I generally don't watch Charlie Rose, but I did. It's one of the things that sticks out in my mind, almost like September 11th, 2001. He wore a T-shirt on which he wrote using a sharpie, "No More Blood for Oil." This was a year before Bush illegally invaded Iraq. Viggo already knew at the time of this interview that Bush was planning on invading Iraq in 2003. If you watch Democracy Now, Amy plays a portion of the video from that interview.

I especially liked the ending of his movie entitled "Hidalgo" because of his support for the wild mustangs which are being systematically destroyed by the U.S. government via the BLM.

In any case, Radscal, I would suggest that you watch his interview with Amy Goodman on Democracy Now today.
 
 
+1 # geraldom 2015-11-05 11:33
I found the full Charlie Rose interview of Viggo Mortensen that took place in late 2002. You really have to listen to it. It was apropos then but even much more apropos in today's world under Obama. Reference the following URL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3vbTuo47VQ&list=PLFCF256772039511C&index=33

He was under constant attack by Charlie Rose for his wearing of the T-shirt. I wonder how Charlie Rose feels today about what he did in 2002 when he interviewed Viggo Mortensen?
 
 
+3 # Radscal 2015-11-05 18:44
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2015-11-05 17:57
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2015-11-05 17:59
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2015-11-05 18:00
 
 
+1 # Radscal 2015-11-06 02:39
ps. I finally got around to watching that episode of DemocracyNow!

You're right. That was an incredible interview with Mortensen. I haven't seen any of the Rings/Hobbit flicks, and so was unaware of this actor, but I'm really impressed with him as a human being.

Thanks.
 
 
0 # geraldom 2015-11-06 22:41
As I stated earlier, I enjoyed the movie "Hidalgo" where he played a real character, a cowboy that existed in the late 1800s who was a half-breed. He was working for the U.S. calvary and delivered to his superiors at Wounded Knee in 1890, at least according to the movie, the secret order that caused the massacre of the Indians there, but that's not why I bring up the movie.

The title of the movie, "Hidalgo," is actually the name of his horse which is a wild mustang which together run many cross-country races.

The main plot of the movie which is supposed to be a true story was that he signed up to run a cross-country race in Arabia across the ocean in which the prize money was $100,000, a lot of money at that time. Until the very end of the movie, no one viewing the film really knows why he did this. I like to protect the wild animals that roam the open areas of our nation, and one of them is the wild mustang who are quickly becoming an endangered species if the BLM can get its way.

The race was long and hard, but, in the end he won the money. The scene then turns to his return to the U.S. at a remote location where the U.S. calvary is about to slaughter thousands upon thousands of wild mustangs that they had corralled. Mortensen rides up to the officer in charge and hands him a note in which he paid the U.S. government to allow these horses to run free. He and two Indians open all the gates and let all the mustangs run free including his own horse, Hildago.
 
 
+12 # lewagner 2015-11-04 23:30
"Libeling Jews or Zionists is old hat, and surprisingly popular among many would-be progressives. Just browse the comments here at Reader Supported News."

Could you give a specific example of such "libel", Mr. Weismann?
If any other country but Israel has profited from 9/11 and the resulting War on Terror, could you please name that country, Mr. Weismann?
 
 
+5 # Activista 2015-11-05 01:05
Thank you Mr. Weissman for the very factual "history" of neocons. I learned a lot. The US militarism is killing everything, including economy/existen ce of the USA.
Please write/educate US more.
 
 
+14 # Activista 2015-11-05 01:24
The Neoconservative Revolution: Jewish Intellectuals and the Shaping of Public Policy

https://books.google.com/books?id=DD8oNl63gBEC&dq=Perle+Reagan&source=gbs_navlinks_s

This book which will come as a surprise to many educated observers and historians suggests that Jews and Jewish intellectuals have played a considerable role in the development and shaping of modern American conservatism. The focus is on the rise of a group of Jewish intellectuals and activists known as neoconservative s who began to impact on American public policy during the Cold War with the Soviet Union and most recently in the lead up to and invasion of Iraq. It presents a portrait of the life and work of the original and small group of neocons including Irving Kristol, Norman Podhoretz, and Sidney Hook. This group has grown into a new generation who operate as columnists in conservative think tanks like The Heritage and The American Enterprise Institute, at colleges and universities, and in government in the second Bush Administration including such lightning rod figures as Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Perle and Elliot Abrams. The book suggests the neo cons have been so significant in reshaping modern American conservatism and public policy that they constitute a Neoconservative Revolution."
 
 
-1 # Salburger 2015-11-05 07:38
This sliding over from the actions of a small group of Jews to "Jews and Jewish intellectuals" is exactly what Weissman was referring to--lewagner take note.
 
 
+1 # Activista 2015-11-05 14:03
Quoting Salburger:
This sliding over from the actions of a small group of Jews to "Jews and Jewish intellectuals" is exactly what Weissman was referring to--lewagner take note.

I agree with you and Weissman - putting ANY label on Jews (blacks, Muslims) nationalism is simplistic/xeno phobic. Not all Germans were Nazis, not all Russians were/are communists etc.
 
 
+13 # harleysch 2015-11-05 08:48
I sought in vain any coverage in this piece of the role of the "liberal interventionist s," a grouping which has been in lockstep with the neo-cons, in pushing regime change wars.

The liberal imperialists, as they are better classified, also come from the Cold War Truman/CIA crowd -- that is their common root. Brzezinski, his spawn Albright, and the lying twins, Susan Rice and Power, are just as obsessively bent on achieving the goals of PNAC as the neo-cons, and are fully allied with them, e.g., with the Libyan intervention, Ukraine, and the anti-Assad mantra.

Sadly, other than a tease, Weissman gave them a pass in his article. Perhaps he will pick this up in a future article.
 
 
+4 # SusanBea 2015-11-05 16:42
It would be helpful for someone to develop and regularly update a list of conservative war-mongering and generally right-wing (actually hate-based) media outlets, "think-tanks", organizations, and personalities. In my mind, the ideological right wingers are more dangerous than terrorists. We can easily become our own worst enemies, individually and in groups.
 
 
+2 # Depressionborn 2015-11-06 02:28
WOW

"Big Money and the Corporate State: How Global Banks, Corporations, and Speculators Rule and How to Nonviolently Break Their Hold."

Gotta read that one. First time I couldn't find anything to disagree with!
 

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