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Carl Gibson gives Rush Limbaugh a call to correct him on the issue of US job creation. "When I called Rush to correct the record, I reminded him that the private sector is still hiring like clockwork while Republicans are killing public-sector jobs with relentless budget cuts."

Carl Gibson called in to Rush Limbaugh to correct him about US job creation. (photo: Independent UK)
Carl Gibson called in to Rush Limbaugh to correct him about US job creation. (photo: Independent UK)

"Government Doesn't Create Jobs"

By Carl Gibson, Reader Supported News

09 November 11

Reader Supported News | Perspective


onservative politicians and pundits love to parrot that patently false statement as many times as they can, despite some of those same politicians getting their paychecks from ... the government. For example, Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) oversaw 47% of all government jobs created in his own state between 2007 and 2010, while he was in charge. Public employee Rick Scott (R-FL) has handed out 15,000 pink slips to his fellow public employees since he's been governor, with the nerve to lament about Florida's rising unemployment in the same breath. Though in his defense, Rick Scott now says he doesn't have to create any jobs. This is surprising, considering Scott's campaign slogans of "Let's get back to work," and "Jobs, jobs, jobs."

Congressional Republicans (re: public employees) aren't any different. They've shamelessly voted down creating hundreds of thousands of good-paying jobs for their own constituents - like teachers, police officers and firefighters - because of a 0.5% tax surcharge on incomes exceeding $1,000,000. Republicans claim they'll outright refuse raising taxes on anyone during the recession, yet Republicans have come out in favor of raising taxes on Americans lucky enough to even have a job.

So cue Rush Limbaugh, the de facto leader of the Republican Party, taking to the golden EIB microphone to tell his millions of listeners that it's the private sector, not the government, that does all the job creation. Now, he's partially right in that the latest lackluster jobs report showed 104,000 private-sector jobs gained and 24,000 jobs lost in the public sector. Yet his claim that providing public-sector jobs somehow harms the private sector is the epitome of economic illiteracy.

As a small business owner myself, the thing holding me back from creating jobs in this economy isn't taxes or regulation, but slow demand. Whether private or public sector, when more people are out of work in a consumer economy, demand for goods and services inevitably goes down. And with less demand, businesses have no choice but to lay off workers. We need jobs to fully recover, but jobs won't come about until demand picks up. Demand won't pick up until people have money to spend. So why are our leaders hell-bent on cutting public-sector jobs when we need them most?

75 years ago FDR put 8.5 million Americans to work rebuilding our cities with an $11 billion investment, or $1.7 trillion adjusted for inflation. The jobs created through the Works Progress Administration put nearly a quarter of America's unemployed back to work in the middle of a crippling depression. During the WPA's 8-year stint America's unemployment rate decreased from 20% to 4%. We could generate the revenue for a similar jobs program by simply levying a $0.03 tax on speculative Wall Street transactions, something embraced by everyone from the Occupy Wall Street movement to Bill Gates. How's that for public-sector job growth?

When I called Rush to correct the record, I reminded him that the private sector is still hiring like clockwork while Republicans are killing public-sector jobs with relentless budget cuts. Rush flipped out, hurled a few ad hominem attacks my way, and hung up.

Me: If George Bush wrote a jobs bill, and it happened to increase taxes on millionaires by a half-percentage point to create 450,000 jobs, would you support that bill?

Rush: No, because there's no ... it's impossible. There's no federal spending that creates private-sector jobs ... There is no way that government spending is gonna increase hiring at any private-sector firm. It isn't possible. You cannot take money out of the private sector - you just can't - and have people hired. It just doesn't work that way.

Me: Well actually, the last few jobs reports, Rush, the private sector had created jobs in line with what's expected in an economic recovery. The real job losses have been in the public sector, because of crushing budget cuts -

Rush: You know, I have to -

Me: - all this bill would try to do is relieve some of that.

Rush: If I were you, I would be embarrassed. You are such a tool. You are a mind-numbed robot, programmed to spew a bunch of absolute garbage. Illogical garbage. You're just flat-out wrong, embarrassingly so. Reading from a script! Incapable of critical thinking on your own. You're a sponge. And you're soakin' up stuff from the wrong side.

You can view the Dittocam's record of our discussion below. And check out Media Matters' dissection and fact-checking of the whole conversation here.

Carl calls Rush Limbaugh as "Keith from Galveston, Texas."

Carl Gibson, 24, of Lexington, Kentucky, is a spokesman and organizer for US Uncut, a nonviolent, creative direct-action movement to stop budget cuts by getting corporations to pay their fair share of taxes. He graduated from Morehead State University in 2009 with a B.A. in Journalism before starting the first US Uncut group in Jackson, Mississippi, in February of 2011. Since then, over 20,000 US Uncut activists have carried out more than 300 actions in over 100 cities nationwide. You may contact Carl at This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it .

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+97 # Capn Canard 2011-11-09 20:26
Rush Limbaugh has proven himself to be disreputable when Bill Clinton was still in the White House and then he was totally addicted to Hillbilly heroin. So he was average and only got progressively worse while on drugs. Perhaps that is why he is highly revered by conservatives.
+7 # Ken Hall 2011-11-11 21:54
The best comment I ever heard about RL came from Garrison Keilor, who said (I'm sure I haven't got it exactly right) "I wouldn't want to be Rush Limbaugh, because I'd wake up in the morning and be him." Imagine being so petty, mean-spirited, spiteful, small-minded, etc. Can't be much fun to inhabit that sociopathic brain, much less the bloated, unhealthy body. Mens sana in corpore sana.
+112 # Buddha 2011-11-09 21:34
Is the government not creating jobs when it contracts Boeing or McDonnell/Dougl ass to build a fighter plane, or some other company to build an IED-resistant Armored Personnel Carrier? Is the government not creating jobs when it funds NIH research grants...and those scientists order kits and equipment from biotech supplier companies? Is the government not creating jobs when it decides to build a road, or a dam? Rush and the GOP believe that if you just repeat something over and over and over, you will get enough people to believe it. And they could be right, a decade or more of denying Global Warming as a hoax has almost 1/2 of Americans calling themselves experts and actual climate scientists as frauds!
-49 # MidwestTom 2011-11-10 07:21
Is that repeating something "Hope and Change"?
+25 # Capn Canard 2011-11-10 14:29
MidwestTom, money spent in the economy, transactions does benefit the private sector regardless of the source of that money. The creation of jobs is a result of a great deal of transactions that creates demand. Jobs are created when money is spent by the largest of spenders and the largest spender is always the GOVERNMENT. This is true across all nations, if not then countries are privately owned and there is no such privately owned nations. On a good day, Rush Limbaugh is delusional on most other days he is painfully mediocre.
+5 # reiverpacific 2011-11-10 23:36
Quoting MidwestTom:
Is that repeating something "Hope and Change"?

Please expand on y'r rhetoric. I'm a bit slow on the uptake these days; seriously. Just flesh it out a wee bit so it is worthy of debate -a device Limp-blech avoids like the black death!
+15 # mwd870 2011-11-10 08:55
Everything Limbaugh said to Carl Gibson might just as well be describing himself. Collecting more tax revenue is important for so many reasons, including supporting all the government contractors who don't think they are dependent on the government, and all the politicians paid by the government who cry out against spending. Many more examples can be found in the article.

It does seem to be true that if you repeat something often enough people will believe it. This worries me.

I don't want to make this too long, but here is a great quote from a recent novel (this observation was just an aside within the context of the story). "Like most of his kind [extreme conservative wing of the Republican Party], his views on federal government could best be summarized as 'keep it as small as possible unless it's convenient for me and my friends to have it otherwise, and as long as I can still be part of it and stick my nose in the federal trough'; or, to put it another way, it's all waste except for the part that benefits me."

Does anyone happen to have a roll of duck tape - I can think of a good use for it.
+21 # Texas Aggie 2011-11-10 13:54
Actually the repubs are claiming that government spending on the military/indust rial complex DOES create jobs so you can't reduce military spending, but any other government spending doesn't create jobs unless, of course, the spending is in their districts.
+127 # DPM 2011-11-09 23:20
It took a while, but we got rid of Beck. Perhaps we should start working on Limbaugh.
+41 # mwd870 2011-11-10 09:46
It was so satisfying when Limbaugh was not allowed to become part owner of an NFL team because his own words came back to bite him.
+12 # ER444 2011-11-10 13:33
Beck got rid of himself.Limbaug h will undoubtedly do the same.
+8 # Okieangels 2011-11-10 19:35
We can only hope. But Beck was a part of a national television broadcasting company. "Rusty" has retreated to a safer haven, talk radio. It would be kind of hard to get rid of him now. He left TV shortly after his ridiculous statements about the Oklahoma City bombing.
+82 # Paul Scott 2011-11-10 00:04
Making the statement that the government does not create jobs simply reveals the level of ignorance of that person (republicans). Once that is understood then one can easily connect the dots as to who and what crashed the nation.
+17 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-11-10 11:49
Quoting Paul Scott:
Making the statement that the government does not create jobs simply reveals the level of ignorance of that person (republicans). Once that is understood then one can easily connect the dots as to who and what crashed the nation.

No Paul, he is not ignorant; the correct word is STUPID!! He is the repugs' "public poison pellet" for those who are mindless enough to believe him (and there are quite a few, sadly). The mammoth-sized money-whore knows FULL WELL what he is doing! LYING TO NO END! I can describe RL in three simple words; GREAT FAT FOOL!!!! 'Nuff said, for now.
+50 # cestronach 2011-11-10 00:17
Rush Limbaugh is a graduate of the Joseph Goebbels School of the Big Lie.
+52 # davidwseattle 2011-11-10 00:55
Obviously Rush never drove on a street or highway, went to a park, went to public school, walked on a sidewalk, had to call the police or fire department, used the internet, took a train or plane; all of these were either created or continue with government support, either with support of the private sector or creating jobs in the public sector.
I'd also like to see if Rush will accept being on Medicare or will take Social Security from the days he made less than the cap.
+51 # Cactusman 2011-11-10 03:04
Rush Limbaugh goes beyond ignorance into the terrain of dangerously, damagingly, and willfully wrong. He must go because he's actively harming our country with his particularly odious brand of know-nothing conservatism.

I second DPM's comment above that we ought to get rid of Rush the way we eventually got rid of Beck. Rush is a lot more entrenched and doesn't pander to the crazy in the same way that Beck did, so dislodging him will likely prove to be more difficult. But sometimes difficult things to do are best done without worrying about how long it will take, as in civil rights, GLBT equality, women's liberation, etc. You just get started down the path and eventually you'll find that the landscape has shifted. I would like to see a landscape without Limbaugh's bloated shadow casting darkly across it.
+27 # Fight the Reich 2011-11-10 04:26
This blob of bull elephant butter is the Reagan-deregula ted M.I.C. / Amairka Inc. brainwashing machine at it's best; Straight out of the annals of M.I.C. psyops. Pretty sick, sad and telling when this talking-head icon is the best they have. Oreilly and Hannity et al only wish they could reek so badly.
+6 # Okieangels 2011-11-10 19:41
Hannity comes awfully close.
+23 # andreyo 2011-11-10 07:05
Limbaugh is a complete and utter (willing) tool of the powerful. He has sold his soul to his corporate enablers.

However, this article is quite lame; and does nothing to challenge the character of the PHONY left/right debate, (i.e. played out between the hypocrites in the Democratic and republican parties).

The writer talks about FDR investing a huge amount of money during the depression; but he neglects to remind us that FDR BORROWED this money from private banks, (AT INTEREST!!).

It was a temporary rescue of monopoly capitalism, passing the bill onto future generations. Now we are that future generation and the status quo wants "its" money back.

This whole "debate" about "government-cre ated jobs" is going nowhere because even Dems are buying into the slogan of "deficit reduction." They want our social-security .

Rather than more "gov't investment" (a temporary ruse at best) we need to simply overthrow the one war-party with two faces.

Then you'll see Limbaugh squirm like a baby with a 40lb diaper.
+22 # motamanx 2011-11-10 09:20
"Government Doesn't Create Jobs" No--it gives them tax breaks for sending the jobs overseas!
+28 # motamanx 2011-11-10 09:44
Rush has a perfect record: He's wrong 100% of the time. As long as people realize that his whole act is a goof, we're OK. When they take his word for the truth, we're in trouble.
+22 # AndreM5 2011-11-10 10:04
The 25%-ers absolutely take it for truth. And the tripe continues to be broadcast over Armed Services Radio and our expense.
+15 # artful 2011-11-10 10:03
Everyone knows that Rush is just a fat dope addict. Why does anyone care what he thinks, when he patently thinks so ineptly?
+18 # panhead49 2011-11-10 10:04
motamanx - millions DO take his word as truth and we ARE in a lot of trouble.

One of my friends divorced her husband because she just couldn't take having to listen to Rush anymore because it would get her ex so angry. He was retired career LE and was quite scary when all foamin' at the mouth ditto heading.
+27 # pernsey 2011-11-10 10:20
Rush Limbaugh is a hypocritical greedy sociopath. He will say anything if he thinks the sheeple will follow and he can collect his millions of dollars for the lies he tells. I doubt he even believes his over bloated blow hard nonsense!

Thats what the right wing doesnt understand, hes an idiot and a liar! Making money off of their stupidity.

+6 # historywriter 2011-11-10 11:29
So that's where some of the off-the-wall commentators I read on some posts get their ideas!
+8 # ericlipps 2011-11-10 16:24
"There's no federal spending that creates private-sector jobs ... There is no way that government spending is gonna increase hiring at any private-sector firm. It isn't possible. You cannot take money out of the private sector - you just can't - and have people hired. It just doesn't work that way."

Ahem. What about all the jobs at private firms creatd by massive defense spending, Rush? Don't they count? Do you think the government owns these companies?

And if it works with military spending, why wouldn't it work with civilian spending?

This gasbag and others like him don't have a clue.
+4 # KDRmerica 2011-11-11 13:15
What about all of the government-crea ted jobs like the MILITARY? Or all of the redundant security state jobs? Rush loves to stoke the war fever and clearly his role as a mouth-piece has helped spread fear & hate which has clearly led to more soldiers DIRECTLY paid by the government.

Are these not jobs Mr. Limbaugh?

This doesn't even take into account all of the private firms that benefit from all of the war lust either which several other responses have touched on above.
+4 # Larry 2011-11-12 02:38
Herr Rush Limbaugh is the Republicans' Joseph Goebbels, Minister of Propaganda. No right-wing lie is so odious that Limbaugh will not repeat it ad nausiam. No opposing view is so reasonable that Limbaugh will not villify it. No truth is so compelling that Limbaugth will not deny it. And, no political adversary is so credible and sincere that Limbaugh will not demonize him/her.

Be shocked at nothing Limbaugh says or does. Truth has nothing to do with his mission. Hate mongering and hypocricy are his stock-in-trade. His job is simply to keep the lies endlessly echoing back and forth, just as for decades the industry-owned Tobacco Institute repeated the lie that cigarettes don't cause cancer. It only mattered that regulators were held at bay and smokers kept smoking.

Like smokers looking to their nicotine vendors for reinforcement, his followers will believe whatever he says, no matter how absurd; it is convenient, comfortable, and gratifying for them to do so.

If you think "it" couldn't happen here, think again. The architects and the actors are already in place, waiting for their cue. A cue that Rush Limbaugh is only too happy to deliver.
0 # Fight the Reich 2011-12-11 22:44
Pointedly; The success of Rush Limburger cheese is not of his intelligence nor truth (but quite the contrary), but is the remarkable success of the M.I.C. / Amairka Inc. literal brainwashing machine; High tech, Black ops social psychology script outlines Rush et al ad-lib from simultaneously. Those scripts target, glorify and inflate highly addictive primordal animal traits in the 'dinosaur' core of humans brains, particularly the traits of greed, bigotry, self-importance , and self-image therein. When those human animal traits are stimulated they trigger secretions of the highly addictive brain hormone dopamine, and the more they are stimulated the more dopamine is secreted and the more a person sucking it up becomes elatedly addicted as long as they can get those dopamine fixes; And reich-wing media is their feeding trough; As is very apparant by the seemingly perplexing addiction so much of Reich-wing media's audience exhibits to the very irrational, bigoted and lying elephant dung Rush gushes from his golden cheese microphone with devastating effect upon his disciples ability to differentiate deception and even blatant lies from elementary truth and common sense. Dopamine is also what addictive drugs trigger to cause their addiction. Adrenaline / endorphine also triggers dompamine; ...voila dope junkies, adrenaline junkies, Reich-wing junkies, etc. Rush's gibberish rants and addiction to hillbilly heroin are extensions of his own ego's insatiable addiction to dopamine.
+3 # phrixus 2011-11-12 07:36
It is a well documented fact that oxycontin, when abused at significant levels, is ototoxic and undoubtedly contributed to Mr. Limbaugh's hearing loss. Based on the absurdity of his comment that government doesn't create jobs (e.g. what about civil service?) one can only speculate on the possibility of oxycontin having a deleterious effect on higher brain functions as well.
+5 # phrixus 2011-11-12 08:43
What I find most disturbing is not Rush Limbaugh's vitriol, factual errors, racism, etc. He is one man. No, the frightening piece of the Limbaugh saga is that he has a loyal listening audience of approximately 15 million. One out of every 20 Americans listen to his rubbish every day. THAT, is scary.
+6 # 2011-11-12 10:31
Some time ago, I took (and later left) a contracting job with a large Washington beltway contractor helping to design an electronic archival system for the US National Archives (NARA), critical for historians and decision makers.

The contractor in question was very much entrenched Republican at the top level, and held the attitude that in point of fact, NARA's role in any decision making should have been negligible, and were there solely to rubber-stamp any and all decisions that the contractor made. After five years and three reboots, the contract expired. The software system built had been scaled back to a tenth of its original functionality, was incapable of handling the volume, and cost $2.2 billion dollars. When NARA tried to protest, the contractor's pet (Republican) senators would bring out the canard that the public sector doesn't create jobs.

The irony was that the public employees at NARA were actually well on their way to creating a shadow system that DID do what they needed, at 1/1000th the cost, before the contractor got wind of it and had it shut down.

It is not that the public sector isn't perfectly capable of creating good jobs that enhance the general economy, it is that the private sector is terrified that they will lose the profits from providing shoddy services and hiring cheap labor to pad the books. It's not just banks.
0 # cypress72 2011-11-13 15:37
If you're fortunate enough to have a job, when do you have the time to listen to RL ?? He should be ignored like Hannity, Levin, Gallagher, ad nauseum. Don't let them get to you !!!

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