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Kotkin writes: "Today's youth, both here and abroad, have been screwed by their parents' fiscal profligacy and economic mismanagement. How has this generation been screwed? Let's count the ways ..."

The children of the baby-boomers find little hope for the future. (photo: Shutterstock)
The children of the baby-boomers find little hope for the future. (photo: Shutterstock)



America's Screwed Generation

By Joel Kotkin, The Daily Beast

17 July 12

 

‘Boomer America' never had it so good. As a result, today's young Americans have never had it so bad.

oday's youth, both here and abroad, have been screwed by their parents' fiscal profligacy and economic mismanagement. Neil Howe, a leading generational theorist, cites the "greed, shortsightedness, and blind partisanship" of the boomers, of whom he is one, for having "brought the global economy to its knees."

What does 'generation screwed' think? Millenials weigh in.

How has this generation been screwed? Let's count the ways, starting with the economy. No generation has suffered more from the Great Recession than the young. Median net worth of people under 35, according to the U.S. Census, fell 37 percent between 2005 and 2010; those over 65 took only a 13 percent hit.

The wealth gap today between younger and older Americans now stands as the widest on record. The median net worth of households headed by someone 65 or older is $170,494, 42 percent higher than in 1984, while the median net worth for younger-age households is $3,662, down 68 percent from a quarter century ago, according to an analysis by the Pew Research Center.

The older generation, notes Pew, were "the beneficiaries of good timing" in everything from a strong economy to a long rise in housing prices. In contrast, quick prospects for improvement are dismal for the younger generation.

One key reason: their indebted parents are not leaving their jobs, forcing younger people to put careers on hold. Since 2008 the percentage of the workforce under 25 has dropped 13.2 percent, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, while that of people over 55 has risen by 7.6 percent.

"Employers are often replacing entry-level positions meant for graduates with people who have more experience because the pool of applicants is so much larger. Basically when unemployment goes up, it disenfranchises the younger generation because they are the least qualified," observes Kyle Storms, a recent graduate from Chapman University in California.

Overall the young suffer stubbornly high unemployment rates - and an even higher incidence of underemployment. The unemployment rate for people between 18 and 29 is 12 percent in the U.S., nearly 50 percent above the national average. That's a far cry from the fearsome 50 percent rate seen in Spain or Greece, or the 35 percent in Italy and 22 percent in France and the U.K., but well above the 8 percent rate in Germany.

The screwed generation also enters adulthood loaded down by a mountain of boomer- and senior-incurred debt - debt that spirals ever more out of control. The public debt constitutes a toxic legacy handed over to offspring who will have to pay it off in at least three ways: through higher taxes, less infrastructure and social spending, and, fatefully, the prospect of painfully slow growth for the foreseeable future.

In the United States, the boomers' bill has risen to about $50,000 a person. In Japan, the red ink for the next generation comes in at more than $95,000 a person. One nasty solution to pay for this growing debt is to tax workers and consumers. Both Germany and Japan, which appears about to double its VAT rate, have been exploring new taxes to pay for the pensions of the boomers.

The huge public-employee pensions now driving many states and cities - most recently Stockton, Calif. - toward the netherworld of bankruptcy represent an extreme case of intergenerational transfer from young to old. It's a thoroughly rigged boomer game, providing guaranteed generous benefits to older public workers while handing the financial upper echelon a "Wall Street boondoggle" (to quote analyst Walter Russell Mead).

Then there is the debt that the millennials have incurred themselves. The average student, according to Forbes, already carries $12,700 in credit-card and other kinds of debt. Student loans have grown consistently over the last few decades to an average of $27,000 each. Nationwide in the U.S., tuition debt is close to $1 trillion.

This debt often results from the advice of teachers, largely boomers, that only more education - for which costs have risen at twice the rate of inflation since 2000 - could solve the long-term issues of the young. "Our generation decided to go to school and continue into even higher forms of education like master's and Ph.D. programs, thinking this will give us an edge," notes Lizzie Guerra, a recent graduate from San Francisco State. "However, we found ourselves incredibly educated but drowning in piles of student loans with a job market that still isn't hiring."

More maddening still, the payback for this expensive education appears to be a chimera. Over 43 percent of recent graduates now working, according to a recent report by the Heldrich Center for Workforce Development, are at jobs that don't require a college education. Some 16 percent of bartenders and almost the same percentage of parking attendants, notes Ohio State economics professor Richard Vedder, earned a bachelor's degree or higher.

"I work at the Gap and Pacific Pak Ice, two jobs that I don't see myself working long term nor jobs that are specific to my major," notes recent University of Washington graduate Marshel L. Renz. "I've been applying to five jobs a week and have gotten nothing but rejections."

Particularly hard hit are those from less prestigious schools or with majors in the humanities, notes a recent Pew study. Among 2011 law-school graduates, half could not find a job in the legal field nine months after finishing school. But it's not just the lawyers and artists who are suffering. Overall the incomes earned by graduates have dropped over the last decade by 11 percent for men and 7.6 percent for women. No big surprise, then, that last year's class suffered the highest level of stress on record, according to an annual survey of college freshmen taken over the past quarter century.

The proliferation of graduate degrees also impacts those many Americans who don't go (or haven't yet gone) to college. High-school graduates now find themselves competing with college graduates for basic jobs in service businesses. Unemployment among 16- to 19-year-olds this summer is nearly 25 percent, while for high-school graduates between 2009 and 2011, only 16 percent have found full-time work, and 22 percent work part time.

Once known for their optimism, many millennials are turning sour about the future. According to a Rutgers study, 56 percent of recent high-school graduates feel they would not be financially more successful than their parents; only 14 percent thought they'd do better. College education doesn't seem to make a difference: 58 percent of recent graduates feel they won't do as well as the previous generation. Only 16 percent thought they'd do better.

This perception builds on the growing notion among economists that the new generation must lower its expectations. Since the financial panic of 2008, "the new normal" has become conventional wisdom. Coined by Mohamed El-Erian at Pimco, it's been used to describe our world as one "of muted Western growth, high unemployment and relatively orderly delevering."

The libertarian Tyler Cowen, in his landmark work The Great Stagnation, makes many of the same points, claiming that the U.S. "frontier" has closed both technologically and in terms of human capital and resources. He maintains that we've already harvested "the low-hanging fruit" and that we now rest on a "technological plateau," making any future economic progress difficult to achieve. Stagnation is not such a bad thing for people already established in college-campus jobs, think tanks, or powerful financial institutions. But it wipes out the hope for the new generation that they can achieve anything resembling the American Dream of their parents or even grandparents.

Inevitably, young people are delaying their leap into adulthood. Nearly a third of people between 18 and 34 have put off marriage or having a baby due to the recession, and a quarter have moved back to their parents' homes, according to a Pew study. These decisions have helped cut the birthrate by 11 percent by 2011, while the marriage rate slumped 6.8 percent. The baby-boom echo generation could propel historically fecund America toward the kind of demographic disaster already evident in parts of Europe and Japan.

The worst effects of the "new normal" can be seen among noncollege graduates. Conservative analysts such as Charles Murray point out the deterioration of family life - as measured by illegitimacy and low marriage rates - among working-class whites; among white American women with only a high-school education, 44 percent of births are out of wedlock, up from 6 percent in 1970. With incomes dropping and higher unemployment, Murray predicts the emergence of a growing "white underclass" in the coming decade.

The prospect of downward mobility is most evident in recent discussions about the future of the housing market. Since World War II the expectation of each generation was to own property, preferably a single-family house. The large majority of boomers became homeowners during the Reagan-Clinton era. Yet it is increasingly fashionable to insist this "dream" must be expunged. If millennials ever move out of their parents' house, they will live in apartments they don't own. There's a lot of talk about a "generation rent" replacing a primarily suburban ownership society with a new caste of city-dwelling renters. "I'm hoping that the millennial generation doesn't set its sights on homeownership as a benchmark of economic stability," sociologist Katherine Newman suggests, "because it's going to be out of reach for so many of them."

No doubt the prospects for homeownership will be tough in the years ahead. But it's delusional to believe millennials don't desire the same things as previous generations, note generational chroniclers Morley Winograd and Mike Hais. Survey research finds that 84 percent of 18- to 34-year-olds who are currently renting say that they intend to buy a home even if they can't currently afford to do so; 64 percent said it was "very important" to have an opportunity to own their own home.

And where do millennials see their dream house? According to research at Frank Magid Associates, 43 percent describe suburbs as their "ideal place to live," compared with just 31 percent of older generations. Even though big cities are often preferred among college graduates in their 20s, only 17 percent of millennials say they want to settle permanently in one. This was the same percentage of members of this generation who expressed a preference for living in rural or small-town America.

So far, the Great Recession has driven young people around the high-income world to the left. Generations growing up in recessions appear more amenable to arguments for government-mandated income redistribution. And since so few young people pay much in the way of taxes, they are less affronted by the prospect of forking over than older voters, who do. This left-leaning tendency has been on display in recent European elections. In France, 57 percent voters 18 to 24 supported the Socialist François Hollande, one of the reasons why the conservative Nicolas Sarkozy lost. Similarly, 37 percent of those in that age category voted for Syrizia, the far-left party in Greece.

But Winograd and Hais - and Democratic strategist Ruy Teixeira - say it's not just economics working for the Democrats. Social issues such as gay marriage, women's rights, and immigration - a large proportion of millennials are children of newcomers - tend to drive younger voters toward the Democrats. Half of millennials, for example, favor gay marriage, compared with a third of boomers, and some predict the Republican embrace of draconian social conservatism will serve to harden the Democratic tilt of millennials for the foreseeable future.

Yet Republicans may take heart from some of the more conservative values embraced by the young. As a group, millennials appear to be very family-oriented - being good parents is often their highest priority - and roughly two thirds claim to believe in God. And since their long-term aspirations are not so different from those of earlier generations - they still want to own a home in a nice, secure neighborhood - Republicans could make a case that their economic model will work better with their personal goals.

Right now, politics is just another place where American millennials are getting screwed. Republicans want to deport young Latinos while cutting investments, such as roads and skills education, that would benefit younger voters. Democrats, meanwhile, seem determined to mortgage the future with high spending on pensions, predominantly for aging boomers; cascading indebtedness; and economic policies unfriendly to the rapid growth necessary to assure upward mobility for the new generation.

This suggests millennials need to force the parties to cater to them and play hard to get. Being taken for granted, as African-Americans have been, does not always produce the best results for any demographic grouping. Politicians target "soccer moms," "independents," and suburban voters precisely because they are not predictable. Millennials should not want to be in anyone's hip pocket.

Wanting the next generation to succeed is in everyone's long-term interest. Eventually they will constitute the majority of parents, potential homeowners, and workers. This year they will comprise 24 percent of voting-age adults, up from 18 percent in 2008; by 2020 they will amount to a third of all eligible voters. And if, by then, they are still a screwed generation, they won't be the only ones suffering. America will be screwed, too.

 

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+92 # walthe310 2012-07-17 13:24
When we conquer the Great Recession for good and all, there will be good jobs again for all. However to return to a state of full employment with good paying jobs for everyone, we must get rid of the TEA Party and its influence on the GOP.
 
 
+57 # John Locke 2012-07-18 05:22
"Today's youth, both here and abroad, have been screwed by their parents' fiscal profligacy and economic mismanagement"

I disagree completely with this statement. It was not the Baby Boomers but the government that screwed the people by aiding corporations to rip off the Nation over political and financial greed! The public had NO responsibility for corporate outsourcing, and environmental waste or the extensive bank fraud that has gone on and has been allowed for multiple generations, or the irresponsible acts of Clinton in deregulating the Banks!!!

To Blame the people who have no control over government irresponsibliit y is like blaming the victom for being robbed!!!
 
 
+19 # ABen 2012-07-18 09:12
Locke; I would remind you that Phil Gramm, Jim Leach, and Tom Bliley were all Republicans. Yes, Clinton signed the bill, to his everlasting shame, but please give credit where credit is due. Republicans had been trying to repeal Glass-Steagall since Reagans first term and finally were able to gut the most important provisions in '99.' All but one or two Senate Dems voted against the original bill, and one senator gave an impassioned speech about the potential damage this act would cause to our banking industry and economy . Don't kid yourself that this wasn't a wholly Repub bill that was signed in '99' by a politically wounded Bill Clinton.
 
 
+7 # John Locke 2012-07-18 11:40
ABen: I appreciate your comment, however I would have had more respect for Clinton had he vetoed the Bill! That would have shown where he stood, But he signed it didn't he!
 
 
+13 # politicaleconomist 2012-07-19 11:43
"It was ... the government that screwed the people by aiding corporations"

Good comment but you got the causation reversed. The government is not independent of corporations or more generally of the "1%"!
It is right now simply an arm of the 1% and as you have implied there is little difference between TweedledeeDem and TweedeldeeRep.
 
 
+6 # edwin_ 2012-07-19 18:48
yes John, one problem is the corporate welfare given to the banks and hi tech firms is the H1b visas that allow them to hire overseas workes to come here & take american jobs. There are over one million of them . This keeps salaries down & prvents grads from finding jobs
 
 
+10 # Capn Canard 2012-07-20 11:56
John Locke, I had the same reaction to that sentence. The government failed us and our children. I have been complaining about the reckless spending on DoD since the early 1980's and yet now we have a Wealthy man(Mitt Romney) promising us austerity and at the same time he would increase defense spending! If people don't wake up and take action, it can only get far worse.
 
 
+4 # Hey There 2012-07-20 12:24
GOOD ONE.I AGREE WITH YOU!**********
A lot of older people lost their homes while many have to take out a reverse mortgage.
 
 
+51 # MidwestTom 2012-07-17 20:06
Right now graduates of the the local vocational classes have jobs waiting for them. We have one young certified welder who is paid $22/hr. and we cannot find another one at that level. The local Electrical union is almost desperate for intelligent young people to enter their training program. This while we turn away applicants with exotic expensive college degrees on a regular basis. American has lost much of it's skilled labor force/
 
 
+15 # Cliff 2012-07-17 23:07
So maybe those more menial jobs should be paid even more. Then people might not borrow themselves into forever debt to educate themselves. For a long time the only well-paying jobs required years more of education than public school provides.
 
 
+20 # Billy Bob 2012-07-18 04:45
There you go again with the welding panacea. Luckily fields like welding are immune to layoffs, right?

NOTE: SARCASM

Welders and electricians not only occupy a field not everyone can do (a talent), but are in a field that is usually in a "boon" or "bust" mentality like the construction industry.

In this economy, I'd tell a welder to stay in school and get more education in an unrelated field.

America has lost much of its demand for this kind of skilled labor outside your local area, because most of our country is now in a stagnant bust.
 
 
+4 # Glen 2012-07-18 10:22
Welding is just an example of the type of jobs and careers young people could get into, but if you are going to be picky, welding has many uses outside construction. Then there are LPNs, private janitorial services, carpentry (also used outside general construction), plumbing, paramedics, paralegals, computer techs, and so on. The list is long when it comes to skills and labor requiring no college. A great many good secretaries have done nicely for themselves.

America has not lost a demand for this type of labor. Those skills have merely been looked down upon by those same college educated folks who now cannot get a job themselves.
 
 
+6 # Billy Bob 2012-07-18 10:56
Non-union dime-a-dozen labor that can easily be replaced by an increasingly cheaper labor force will ALWAYS be in demand.
 
 
0 # Glen 2012-07-18 16:22
Better than nothing in a struggling economy, Billy. But not all are without a union.

This reminds me of the time I needed a job and only one was available. Folks would tell me not to take it because it didn't pay enough. There were no other jobs. None. So - do you take the low paying job or continue with nothing, with food and rent running very very low.

Gotta be realistic about what's available, regardless of education or skill level.
 
 
+9 # Billy Bob 2012-07-18 17:29
I think you're missing the point. This isn't an article about people unwilling to work. It's about people who's job skills are not being used because our economy has undervalued a college education and is becoming increasingly like a 3rd world economy.

OF COURSE there are still some jobs available. You can still pick fruit!

That's not the point. In the race to the bottom with the 3rd world, we should be getting off the track and re-assessing our national values. Instead we're bickering over whether someone who has a masters degree should have become a plumber.
 
 
-3 # Virginia 2012-07-19 03:14
Billy Bob - Do you think it was easy for women in the 60's to find jobs other than teachers, nurses or secretaries? You make your way in this world. Stop thinking that you or anybody else are owed a job. Education doesn't give you a right to employment. Women of the 60's had to prove they could be sales people, editors, mechanics and that they had a brain and desire beyond Susie homemaker (not that there is anything wrong with that too).

This generation (that is so abused - boo hoo) has been confronted with drugs - more prevalent than what we faced 50 years ago...more like the heroin crazed days of the 1920s and 30s with cocaine, acid and pot. People are looking to take the "edge off of the depression" caused by a laissez faire government with it's hand caught in the till. What a great example it's setting.

Bottom-line stop sugar coating life and tell this generation to get creative and make a job - not just sit on their ass and wait for one.
 
 
+4 # Billy Bob 2012-07-19 16:57
This really isn't about a generation gap, as much as people want to lay the blame on each other, rather than where it actually belongs. People really haven't changed. Our situations have.

But, if you want to blame your children and grand children, go right ahead. It's not going to fix anything, but it might make you feel self righteous.
 
 
+2 # Virginia 2012-07-20 08:51
I'm not blaming the children. I'm blaming the government for allowing the drug cartel aka bankster money laundering that enables these suppliers to infect our schools and communities. They have depressed the economy, dumbed down the media and created a society with very little ambition. Our political leaders are not setting the example we need for a stronger America. Letting gangsters slide and taking their bribes with no punishment sends a very bad message.

We need to organize locally and support each other to get out of this drug and financially induced depression. Recognizing it is the first step. Calling the community together is next. Eliminating the blood sucking, lazy, bribe taking politicians is essential (locally, state and federal).
 
 
+7 # Hey There 2012-07-20 12:54
Like musical chairs where chairs are being removed one at a time until there is only one chair left with one winner,this is what's happening to jobs. First there was automation,then jobs were sent overseas, then Nafta, then eliminating public sector jobs,importing more goods, and the losers are the ones who couldn't snag a chair shall be called workers and the winner shall be called the Super Rich.
 
 
+5 # Glen 2012-07-19 03:47
What is your suggestion for improvement or to correct the government or economy? How about the social manipulation that the government and the media have dumped on those who followed the rules and now are realizing no fruits for their labors?

I understood the point and have lived long enough to understand how the country bounced into this situation. The power of corporations and governments are rather much beyond us.

We were warned, but very few listened. Citizens do not determine "national values".
 
 
+3 # Billy Bob 2012-07-19 17:00
My only suggestion is for the only chance we have, which is to not give up and vote anyway. If your view is so glum that it doesn't matter what citizens do it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. I plan to vote for the best viable candidates that are offered. I plan to vote next time and the time after that as well.

I also plan to get involved even more during the next primary season to do my part in making sure that the Democratic candidate isn't another repug lite.

That's all I CAN do, but I don't plan on giving up.
 
 
+2 # Glen 2012-07-20 03:59
Citizens can count locally, and in a particular territory, but they have no control within the federal government or corporations. It isn't a matter of giving up, it is a matter of being realistic in a country of way over 300 million people and in which there are very serious issues that citizens did not cause.

Candidates, as we have all witnessed, are chosen heads, not decided on by citizens. Even candidates for congress are not without the knowledge of the actual workings of the government.

Personally, I, and a random number of folks in this area, are preparing for the future while working with the community. During weather related events in which many lost electricity for a week or two, or similar collapse, hundreds of people panicked, many became borderline nuts. That is what happens when folks are not prepared for even a weather event.

A depression and thousands of lost jobs makes it much worse, and the federal government cannot and will not take care of so many people, no matter who leads. Think local.
 
 
0 # Billy Bob 2012-07-20 07:46
You can choose your strategy. I'll choose mine.
 
 
0 # edwin_ 2012-07-19 18:13
Ya ever think that maybe you need to pay more than $22???
 
 
+81 # wantrealdemocracy 2012-07-17 20:13
It's not a recession, it is a major Depression. Things will not get good until we face the fact that tea party and the GOP worked with the Democrats to create this disaster. It was not the baby boomers that brought this on, it was the very wealthy top 1% that purchased our elected 'representative s' to work for them and screw us, working people of all ages. Those old folks are not continuing to work so many years to cheat the young. They need a place to live and food on the table. Look up, Americans, at the people in the income level over you. There is the problem.
We will have good times again when we change the government and end the wars and tax the rich. Don't vote for anyone in Congress now. Kick them out!
 
 
+27 # Cliff 2012-07-17 22:53
I always hear this from Republicans. Kick them all out. But after the election, my brother always admits that he voted for incumbents. Why not really look at how they voted. If you disagree, vote them out. Too many people vote like sheep.
 
 
+11 # ABen 2012-07-18 09:14
Well said Cliff!
 
 
+17 # John Steinsvold 2012-07-17 20:18
An Alternative to Capitalism (if the people knew about it, they would demand it)

Several decades ago, Margaret Thatcher claimed: "There is no alternative". She was referring to capitalism. Today, this negative attitude still persists.

I would like to offer an alternative to capitalism for the American people to consider. Please click on the following link. It will take you to an essay titled: "Home of the Brave?" which was published by the Athenaeum Library of Philosophy:

http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/steinsvold.htm

John Steinsvold

“Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result."~ Albert Einstein
 
 
+8 # Cliff 2012-07-17 22:50
John,

I read and like the enjoy the Home of the Brave. Nice thinking outside the box.

I have always been a liberal capitalist, but I am re-thinking the capitalist part. I no longer believe competition will produce better products. Just as often greed produces dangerous goods.

Not saying communism is the way to go, but surely it is not all bad. And why shouldn't any idea be open for discussion?

Isn't that what the U.S. was founded on?
 
 
+6 # John Steinsvold 2012-07-18 07:30
As I envision a way of of life without money, we will gain economic freedom in addition to and without infringement on our present freedoms. The ONLY common denominator between a way of life without money and socialism/commu nism/Marxism is economic equality which, in my opinion, we desperately need here in the USA. Economic equality will eliminate poverty. It will also eliminate materialism which warps our sense of value and corrupts our system. It will also reduce crime dramatically. Otherwise, our government will remain the same. The Democrats will still do battle with the Republicans. Our free enterprise system will still exist as it does today.

Perhaps for the first time in history, we, as a nation and as a people, have the ability to conduct our internal economic affairs without the need to use money. We have the necessary democratic government, we have the abundant resources, we have the educational facilities and also the technical knowledge to do so. In light of what is happening in our economy today, should we not, at least, explore this possibility?

John Stensvold

"The free market is indeed free. Its free of responsibility and accountability. Owners are free to ignore the future, free to act in ways that generate short term gains for themselves and push long term costs onto other people, the environment and the future."
-Lloyd Ireland
 
 
0 # Capn Canard 2012-07-20 12:07
John, read Home of the Brave and would like to see such come to fruition, I was wondering if you ever heard of Fleming Funch? Here is a web link:

http://www.newciv.org/ncn/moneyteam.html

All this stuff is from about 1995. If you have any other info, please share...
 
 
+2 # thomachuck 2012-07-20 14:04
There is a great discussion going here. There is also another overarching issue: the clear underperformanc e of the United States in matters like unemployment, education, job training, health care and social issues. The Republicans keep talking about the "failed Socialist states of Old Europe" but most of the industrialized rich European countries are way ahead of us in these areas. Check out Harold Myerson's good article in The Washington Post from this week (July 16-20); haven't got it at my fingertips. These should be our priority issues, not the "unentitled-nes s" of the president to be in the job he's in or how many hundreds of millions of dollars Romney is worth. If there were true bi-partisan WORK doing on in Congress, we would be in a lot less trouble than we are.
 
 
+2 # abdullahiedward 2012-07-18 02:50
Sounds awfully familiar to what Gaddafi put together in Libya, which, contrary to common public opinion, was working quite well before the US decided to eliminate him and his idea of social justice.
 
 
+10 # lark3650 2012-07-18 03:51
Alfred Lawson, founder of the Direct Credits Society back in 1931, offered an alternative to capitalism.... capitalism with improved finance. Captialism can be made to work but not until interest on money is abolished. Money is supposed to be a medium of exchange for the convenience of everybody. "Interest is the thief of everybody. It robs the government, it robs the merchants, and it robs workmen. It robs everybody except a few financiers who control the money, and by its control, gain the power to stifle governments, industry, trade and employment."
Unless interest is abolished, nothing else counts.

"There are thousands hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." - Henry David Thoreau
 
 
0 # Capn Canard 2012-07-20 12:09
If possible, would you please post any links that may be helpful, thanks.
 
 
+26 # LonnyEachus 2012-07-17 20:28
You can't blame this entirely -- or even mostly -- on the "boomers", because they have mostly just continued the bad practices of two generations that came before them.

What you CAN blame them for, is the outrageous level of corruption in business and government (and BETWEEN business and government) that has bled our economy so badly. There has always been some, but never before has it been this bad. THAT, you can safely say, is a change that came with the Boomers.
 
 
+6 # RLF 2012-07-18 04:07
You can blame this college generation for being spoiled...havin g to go to the expensive school because it has a better football team or exercise facility...thei r demands for more and more technology toys to do dumb ass stuff on fartbook...etc. , etc. When ever you turn you find this generation feeling like their self esteem is a good enough reason to get what ever they want when they suck at everything but creating computer games. Time for this generation to grow up and head down to their local Occupy Demonstration.
 
 
+5 # Glen 2012-07-18 08:16
RLF, who is it that instilled that attitude in this generation? They were not born with a sense of gimme and technology. The generation prior to the so-called boomers, or at least the leaders, began the movement toward forcing college and careers on the young. Once the push began to best the rest of the world, citizens took on that attitude and passed it along to the kids.

When technology and a job motivated education is instilled in pre-schoolers, the result is that attitude you describe. The rest, unable to afford an education or all that technology, are left with resentment and disappointment that they are not "acceptable" in U.S. society. The lucky ones have parents that raise them with realistic expectations.
 
 
+14 # Glen 2012-07-18 04:54
Don't be too quick to blame all Boomers. (Actually I hate generational labels. Originally, the Baby Boomer generation began during WWII, but then the years were changed.) Most so-called boomers are hardworking, had to go to Vietnam, protested Vietnam and much else, lost their jobs/careers so therefore lost their retirement, and so on.

The corruption in the U.S. began a long time ago, including economic corruption. It was inevitable that many were going to pay for the sins of past generations.
 
 
+9 # Anarchist 23 2012-07-18 18:14
Quoting Glen:


The corruption in the U.S. began a long time ago, including economic corruption. It was inevitable that many were going to pay for the sins of past generations.


A great book to read is Marty Jezer's 'The Dark Ages Life In the United States 1945-1960' It details how corporations took over much of the private and public space-very informative and certainly documents how we got here! It was published in '82. Lots of us have long looked on what has been going on with great dismay but so few ever saw it. Certainly not those in power!
 
 
+3 # Glen 2012-07-19 03:50
Thanks, Anarchist23. I'll read it.
 
 
+23 # John Locke 2012-07-18 05:24
LonnyEachus You are blaming an entire generation for the irresponsible acts of only a few at the top...You can't blame the people for the acts of 1% of them!
 
 
+22 # rblee 2012-07-17 21:21
How about blaming it on corporate and political sociopaths--the elites of whatever generation bred by this American Empire?
 
 
+6 # Ken Carman 2012-07-18 09:36
Quoting rblee:
How about blaming it on corporate and political sociopaths--the elites of whatever generation bred by this American Empire?


Absolutely. That's what Roosevelt did.
 
 
+7 # Rainphase 2012-07-17 21:51
I would be interested in seeing a study on how the dynamics described in this article play out within families themselves, between boomer parents and their 20-something children, especially where the parents are Republicans. I imagine, based on my own experience, there might be a lot of frustration/sha me/anger/stress going on, especially in cases when parents fail to understand the situation their kids are in and don't understand how much more difficult it is to get a high-paying job and to afford to buy a home now compared to when the parents were young adults.
 
 
-13 # anarchteacher 2012-07-17 22:02
Watch "Ron Paul - 2002 predictions come true"

http://www.youtube.com/embed/jQ0mLRzCY_M

or

"Fraud - Why The Great Recession" at YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/PTpKGiVwKHY

People who out of willful ignorance ignore Ron Paul, Professor Jesús Huerta de Soto, or Peter Schiff (who predicted this economic crisis) do so at their own serious peril.

Actions have consequences.

It was Fed Chairmen Alan Greenspan and Ben Bernanke and the elite economic advisors surrounding Bush, Obama -- and now Romney -- who caused (and then callously prolonged) this financial meltdown.

Relying upon them for viable policy solutions is the sheerest of follies.

The chickens have come home to roost, and we are the omelet being devoured by the power elite 1% of Wall Street and DC.

No War But The Class War!
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-07-18 07:11
Let's hope Paul didn't predict his own presidency.
 
 
+11 # Gordon K 2012-07-17 22:21
Generational analyses of moral rectitude are pointless. People are people. Some are kind; some are greedy, and so it goes. The only thing that has changed is the rapid technological advances that have enabled a few greedy manipulators to screw up the world, rather than screw up just a town, or city, or state.
 
 
+13 # sjporter 2012-07-17 22:26
I hate to say it but we're all screwed - keeping up with what's happening with Global Warming/Climate Change, it's clear that the devastation coming to our beautiful planet has already started. And yet what do they want to do now? Shell, and our other Big Oil companies want to drill into the Arctic Ocean, and they, along with China, Russia, Canada and the other countries that circle the Arctic are actually thrilled that the ice is shrinking each year. Not only can they drill, but they will finally have the Northwest Passage that money makers have been wanting for centuries. We're not just talking about heat, drought and rising food prices, we're talking rising sea level, vastly stronger storms/hurrican es/tornado systems, both here but also around the world on the coasts. We'll have climate refugees pushing up from Southern Asia, Indonesia into India, Pakistan and China - hey, what could go wrong? Climate change is getting pushed aside as if it were a separate issue that the media is sorry to bore you with. Time to DEMAND attention to at least lessening the worst of the environmental catastrophes to come.
 
 
+4 # hd70642 2012-07-17 22:47
Well if they can salvage anything from a situation they had no fault is recognizing that a greater sense of community is worth far more than over valued sense of self . In addition this down ward trend actually began with the manufacturing decline during the Ford Adminstration ,and was picking up in steam during Saint Ronald Ronald' reign ,and by the time GW came along this decline was going by so fast is it any wonder folks finally began to take notice they beeing left behind ,and yes I feel occupy was more than a little over due ,but better late than never !!!Those that fail to remember history are condemed to repeat it and those who control the past control the future. Those same elitest dinglings decided to repeat history are trying to scapegoat Rosevelt who cleaned up the mess left by Hoover .
 
 
+10 # cordleycoit 2012-07-17 22:55
Watch them play off the generations. It is so easy to do. And it means that there will be no reform while the bicker goes on and on. I do not see much of future for reform because it will be crashing again and again until we throw the crooked system out.
 
 
+3 # Ken Carman 2012-07-18 09:35
Quoting cordleycoit:
Watch them play off the generations. It is so easy to do. And it means that there will be no reform while the bicker goes on and on. I do not see much of future for reform because it will be crashing again and again until we throw the crooked system out.


Good point. Classic Rethug trick. Get the have nots and the screwed fighting, making accusations, then continue to stick in the shiv.
 
 
+20 # angelfish 2012-07-17 23:43
Todays Youth have NOT been Screwed by their parents. They HAVE been screwed by the profligate Mega-wealthy and Banksters who think that rules and the Law are only for "the little people". They have bought our SCOTUS and had the rules changed to favor THEM and Pissed on the "little people" til most of us have just about drowned! They will NOT like what will happen in November. Americans are tired of being Pissed on and it will ALL change on Election Day! Never, EVER vote ReTHUGlican! The People, United, will NEVER be defeated!
 
 
+16 # Ralph Averill 2012-07-18 00:36
I disagree with the basic premis; we boomers didn't "screw" the millenials. We didn't get together and plot to steal it all. That was done by a handful of the very wealthy who, one could easily argue, screwed the millenials more than they screwed the rest of us.
 
 
+14 # Virginia 2012-07-18 00:39
Don't start with me about what "our" generation left to our children. It's moronic not to acknowledge the fact that the government leaders for the past 40 years have played a major role (both parties) in destroying America. We've allowed cartels to run our economy - whether on Wall Street, environmental, and/or farming.

Maybe our children will find the balls that we left behind after Viet Nam and eliminate the sons of bitches that ruined The United States.
 
 
+8 # Ken Carman 2012-07-18 00:48
I'm sorry, but articles like this piss me off. Those who write them know less about baby boomers than they think they know. While early boomers did well, later ones had the same problems: as bad, or worse. Early 70s: no jobs, college loans banks refused to work with us on etc. etc. They are very much the same, though intensity varied on an individual basis. WE WERE SCREWED TOO. Ever wonder why so many college grads simply gave up trying to find work in my generation? We were treated much the same. Though I think our fathers gen treated us poorly due to the idea their revulsion @ the 60s, for the most part this is caused by the previous generation being full of itself and a bit sociopath-ic. Yes, the "greatest generation" qualifies here. Many may have been heroes, but far too many sank into the same kind of "I got mine and screw them" Right Wing moon bat-ery that's so prevalent now among my generation. We seem to have a hell of a time learning from past generations as a species.
 
 
+18 # PaineRad 2012-07-18 00:54
The basic premise of this article is pure, unadulterated BS. The problem is not generational. It is the problem of power, concentrated wealth and propaganda.

All those boomers are holding onto their jobs because their salaries (productivity gains) were stolen beginning about 1973. In other words they, too, are victims of the 0.01%, just as their kids and grandkids are. If the boomers are responsible for anything, it is being human in the face of concerted campaigns by Madison Avenue and the PR flacks who have all seduced and confused the American public, pretty much as they have done across the globe.

Actually the problem goes back to the 30s and 40s when trying to reform the economic order, officials did nothing to change corporate governance and left in place incestuous boards of directors.

You can also point directly at a few specific acts that led to this catastrophe: The Taft-Hartley Act, the creation and staffing of the CIA with hard line supporters of Hitler and the fascists, the conversion of currency into a commodity and the lack of enforcement and failure to strengthen the Sherman Anti-Trust Act, labor and environmental law and the merger & acquisition and the deregulation manias of the late 70s and the 80s. All of these acts were begun by prior generations.

The boomers' failure was in believing the BS that rained down on them during the Cold War.
 
 
+22 # OldLady 2012-07-18 01:31
By pitting generations against each other this article feeds into the Republican attempts to dismantle Social Security and end public sector pensions. Middle class millennials should recall that many of their parents' expenditures were for them--did you live in a nice house/neighborh ood? have a room of your own? go to a good school? take expensive vacations? receive a car as a gift? have excellent health car? braces? cosmetic surgery? Boomers also spend considerable amounts on their children's college expenses. Also, millennials should remember that if parents do not have enough savings to last through retirement, thay will become an additional burden on you--and $170,000 is NOT enough.

Others have pointed out the corruption of our political system that has transferred wealth from the poor and middle class to the very wealthy. All young people need to learn what's happened and help turn the country around, rather than buy into an ageist argument that will come back to bite them.
 
 
+10 # Susan1989 2012-07-18 03:09
Although the is merit to much of what is said here, I am asking myself why I encounter so many seemingly rude and over-entitled young people in the work force. I am over 65, have a masters degree, and managed a large fundraising department. I avoided hiring young people because they had poor writing and people skills and were unwilling to work as hard as their 50 and over counterparts. Who ever said a college education guaranteed starting at the top?
 
 
+3 # Virginia 2012-07-20 09:35
We all recognize there is a problem - but we want to lob it all on the back of a presidential position to correct. While that leadership quality, if found, is important - we need to realize that the problems are much more locally grown.

If you are watching the news you are seeing drug cartel money laundering in the billion$ through Chase, BofA, Wells Fargo, etc. That money comes from our kids and community members buying and selling drugs - much of which are radically mind altering. Believe it or not even the teachers make buys from the students.

This depression isn't just financial - it's drug related as well in order to dumb down a society that won't rise up against the money lords. It is a very serious problem. Drugs are on Wall Street, in the corporate sector, within our government and political offices, in the schools and easily accessible on the street.

If this generation is screwed - it stems from a drug induced haze at all levels that mere fines levied on banks for money laundering won't stop. We need to wise up and start helping our communities clean up. It's hard to pay law enforcement when the municipal trust funds have been gambled away on Wall Street who does the laundry for the drug cartels - see the connection?
 
 
+13 # davidhp 2012-07-18 03:48
The enemy is unbridled free market capitalism, trying to blame the boomers for this is recession is bs, many boomers are strugglng try to make it on social security and savings that have been lost due to the greed of free market capitalist manipulating the investiments.
 
 
+13 # turtleislander 2012-07-18 04:04
This article is divide and conquer and to believe it only benefits the very very few, not necessarily born between 1945 and 1965 who brought this economic disaster upon us. I was born in 1951 and have lost half a lifetime's savings, and my career to this economic mess. The decline began when the people in charge back in the Reagan era began dismantling US prosperity.
 
 
0 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-18 09:29
Here Here, Reagan may be created with bringing down communism and capitalism
 
 
+3 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-19 12:55
Why the thumbs down...some right wing nuts in denial. Reagan deserves the credit for screwing the masses.
 
 
+10 # economagic 2012-07-18 04:29
It IS a depression, it IS the banksters (and some others), and it's NOT "the boomers," many of whom have been fighting the banksters and the military-indust rial complex (which Eisenhower himself facilitated) since before the first of us came of age nearly 50 years ago.

With all due respect to Mr. Steinsvold, his fantasy is just that--the Marxian workers' paradise without the revolution. For an example of the way the alternative to capitalism is actually being created from the ground up, read Gar Alperovitz's latest article ("A New Era of Worker Ownership?"), posted today on RSN. Then google his name, also "new economics," and check out slowmoney.org.

There is a grain of truth in the comments of the "conservative analysts" quoted above, including those of Tyler Cowen--but not much. Unmet needs abound, yet we are swimming in underutilized resources. The challenge is to get off our butts and learn to create not just jobs but livelihoods and lives for ourselves and others, before one of the many crises magnifies our needs beyond our ability to meet them.
 
 
+7 # video4315 2012-07-18 04:49
Blaming everyone in the Boomer generation is certainly an overgeneralizat ion. Just as there were are many greedy people in this generation (Abramoff, Boesky, Milken, Lay, Dimon, Diamond, Maddoff, and on and on), there were and are people whose ideals and good will from the sixties and seventies are yet intact. Those who served in the Peace Corps have inspired many thousands with whom they have come in contact. Many Boomers find themselves in debt because of tuition payments for their children. Many of us as Boomers would gladly settle for less in our lives if it would get our children and our country back on track. We were brought up to believe the stories that ended in "...and they lived happily ever after," but the sad truth is that life has never been this way. The TV commercials with the smiling newly-retired couples enjoying the good life betray the realities which most will face. The point is that we label our generations and that labeling is divisive. We are all in this together and must work together to find our way through it. The future is not going to be the same as in the past. The promises of technologies and healthcare breakthroughs will be countered by exploding populations, climate change, and more. May all of us appreciate what others have to offer.
 
 
+18 # gleeindc 2012-07-18 04:55
Are things difficult for younger Americans? Yes. Are things difficult for boomers who are retired or nearing retirement and have seen their retirement funds plummet? Yes. Let's not make it a generational war when the problem is class, not age.
 
 
+11 # GreenBee 2012-07-18 05:27
As a Boomer and I can tell you all is not rosy for me and many of my Boomer friends. The wealth gap is affecting my generation very significantly, and a generalization that an entire generation "never had it so good' hides this reality.

I graduated from college in 1973 the housing market was experiencing the greatest bubble of inflation we've ever seen AND the mortgage interest rates were 11, 12, and 13%. I also had a college debt to pay off then too. Some boomers with money made a killing in money markets funds during this time, but those of us from working class backgrounds had college debts and had to take on our first home mortgages with those astronomical interest rates. Many of us divorced due to the culture of free sex(extra marital) and drug habits that started in the 60's and found ourselves as single parents, with no equity and insecure jobs.

The only Boomers I know that are very secure had parents who helped them with trust funds, business start-ups, college tuition payments, inheritances, or were MBAs or MDs. Those of us who chose helping professions, in social services, education or small business of our own are really struggling. Many of us do not even have health insurance and those that do are now having major health costs and are finding that their out of pocket costs are enormous.

My parents generation had free college(GI bIll) and jobs that lasted 30 years and mortgage rates of 4%
 
 
+2 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-18 09:29
Rate went up to 20% in my area, vredit cards were well over 22%...boomers my age that have had kids...I see two primary results...paren ts involved enough to teach the kids about ethics and hard work and helped thier kids through school...and the neglected kids who never gave a damn about school. learning or anything but themselves.
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-07-18 17:46
Your parents also toughed out the Depression. The real one. The one with a 25% unemployment rate and serious talk of a violent revolution in the air. Those facts are lost in the mists of time because your parent's generation are either dead or too old to argue about it any more.

Believe me. I know them well, and they worked their asses off for everything they earned. They also didn't destroy Social Security. They fought for it while the boomer generation was buying into the privatization myth.

The only thing any generation is ultimately responsible for in all of this is EVERY generation since WWII for not fighting to keep the New Deal intact and for not fighting to keep our unions, and for not fighting all the cuts to public funding for all of the things that actually dragged us out of the last depression. And don't give me that bullshit that WWII ended the Depression. If it did, why was the economy so strong in the '50s and '60s?
 
 
+4 # ritaague 2012-07-18 05:28
Oh yeah, it's a terrible, evil mess we're passing onto our kids, grandkids, and future generations. That's why I, an old 'Grandmothers for Peace', does and says all I do and say (a.k.a. raises Irish hell re. all the greed and power addiction that has so taken us and the world over, leaving anything goodly/Godly far behind - a thing of the past).

Lots and lots we gotta do to...

UNDO THE EVIL COUP !
 
 
+17 # coberly 2012-07-18 06:06
I hope you are aware that this is propaganda created by the people who are trying to destroy Social Security by creating a "war between the generations."

In the first place, it's stupid to blame your "parents." The forces that have created the current situation were not created by ordinary people. So look for the folks who actually have some effect on "the economy." The politicians and central bankers would be a good place to start.

In the second and most important place, try to remember that Social Security it you paying for your own eventual retirement, NOT you paying for some greedy geezers retirement. The old folks already paid for their retirements. And if you are too dumb to understand that part, then you are probably too dumb to save yourself from the politicians of both parties who are indeed creating bad times ahead.

But don't feel too sorry for yourself. Your parents worked hard to create a better, easier, world for you than they found for themselves.

Do you think you are having a harder time than the young..now old...peope who faced the real Great Depression and World War 2, and the "peacetime" draft, and Vietnam, and the "Reagan recession"?

Times are hard, but no harder than for past generations. Your parents are not to blame. But if you let yourselves be fooled by "generational war" times are going to get a lot harder.
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-07-18 17:38
WELL SAID.
 
 
+10 # mrbadexample 2012-07-18 06:27
Put the blame for this mess where it belongs--the repubs who consistently voted for the Bush Tax cuts and the unfunded Medicare prescription plan. Apparently, none of them had a desk calendar for figuring out when the Boomers were going to stop being taxpayers and start being SS and Medicare recipients. We will *never* have another generation as big or as prosperous, and all the long-term projects we coulda/shoulda undertaken in the Aughts (energy conversion to solar, ramping down a cold-war sized Pentagon, reform of the way we pay for healthcare) were thrown under the bus for tax cuts for the wealthy and a few Trillion-dollar wars.

The Occupy struggle should be across multiple generations--a nation of Walmart greeters and bartenders is not going to be able to support the Boomers or keep carrier groups and airborne divisions on standby so the oil keeps pumping in Saudi Arabia. I understand why the kids took over Zuccotti Park. I don't understand why their parents didn't join them.
 
 
+1 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-18 09:26
They have not joined them because THERE HAS NOT BEEN A "kent state" MOMENT YET!
 
 
+6 # panhead49 2012-07-18 06:46
Mr. Kotkin - I sure hope you have health insurance, perhaps you can get your severe analcephalic impaction cleared up. Hubby and I are what you refer to as 'boomers' and are scared feckless everytime our 401k statement shows up. No pension checks around here (but a helluva lot of crossed fingers). The sons are doing pretty darn good, been working, been saving as much as possible and been going to school to get useful degrees (in lieu of degrees in Underwater Navel Gazing/Basket Weaving). The glut of law degrees coming down the pipeline has been evident for at least a decade. Most will never have a successful private practice, some will get government gigs and most will find out that since the law changes annually (if not more frequently) and after a spell what they learned will become moot. Unlike their student loan debt.
 
 
+4 # rumisonqo 2012-07-18 19:07
I agree on most levels but also think it is sad that we decide our entire life course in terms of where the jobs are, as if that is the only point of all our education. That is what makes us nothing more than corporate cogs. What universities should step up and do better is in teaching us how to forge our own path and not expect some company or firm to give us a living when we graduate.
 
 
0 # cristpd 2012-07-18 06:51
Joel Kotkin is correct on almost every measure in this well written article. The only point on which I would differ is hi characterizatio n of "...huge public-employee pensions now driving many states and cities - most recently Stockton, Calif. - toward the netherworld of bankruptcy.."

Public employees in some European countries do have generous, though not huge pensions. US public employees, by comparison, are treated rather shabbily. Still, most public employee pensions have been adequate to keep retired workers comfortably in the middle class. But Kotkin has bought into the notion that pensioners are to be blamed for having it a little better than the rest of us.
 
 
-2 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-18 09:24
I find that most public bureaucrats treat those at the counter rather shabbily...and if they worked for me they would have been fired long ago. Not an incident... but 25 years of dealing with bureaucrats living on the lard of the government hand outs and guareentees.
Shuffling mostly useless paper and making up rules, fees and regulations that are not codified until a dumbass council or government body rubber stamps without thought or serious public comment (have you attended a public "hearing" where the matter has been pre-decided?).
 
 
+8 # mdhome 2012-07-18 07:05
For every Romoney, Adleson, Kochs there are several thousand homeless living out of dumpsters and not all are young. Many of the "boomer" generation are also getting screwed by the mega-wealthy.
 
 
+2 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-18 09:20
Way too many boomers in "retirement" supplimenting thier Soc Sec packing bags like I did when I was a poor teenager.
 
 
+2 # rumisonqo 2012-07-18 07:14
To those of you who are claiming the boomers also had it bad, remember that mortgages are not some kind of god given right just because we were born American. There is nothing natural about them. Mortgages have really only existed as we know them post WWII (and even then they were mostly for white men). Why is house in the suburbs our norm when that was really only a reality for one or two generations in the history of humanity, at most?

https://sedonaweb.com/attach/schools/NCBEfaculty/attach/chapter-297.pdf
 
 
0 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-18 09:20
Because we are not a wilderness any more where we can just build a cabin and farm...and survive if abble.
 
 
0 # Billy Bob 2012-07-18 17:36
Would you prefer us to be a society of renters?
 
 
+1 # rumisonqo 2012-07-18 18:55
Quoting Billy Bob:
Would you prefer us to be a society of renters?


I am saying that tying up all our resources and our energy in this ideal of homeownership is misguided. The post WWII suburban housing boom was an experiment that worked for the medium term, and for those who happened to be in the ideal position to take advantage. Homeownership seems to be loosing its viability as a standard for younger people now. I`m just saying that Gen X and millenials shouldn`t feel bad for not attaining what was an exception and something just workable for the baby boomers generation because they were lucky.
 
 
+1 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-19 13:16
Let our government throw the bankers all for a loop and just have them write off all first/primary residences as "PAID IN FULL"...that would change soime dynamics.
 
 
0 # Billy Bob 2012-07-19 17:04
I don't honestly know a time when most people rented in this country. Do you have pre-20th Century statistics that most people did?
 
 
+7 # fredboy 2012-07-18 07:15
Yep. It's over.
American went from "we" to "me".
And that's all she wrote.
The nation's soul has been hollowed.
Everyone is self focused, all tough guys and girls, everyone hating everyone else.
And no hope for improvement.
No one believes anymore.
Thus, no one gives a shit.
Will make a hilarious movie one day.
 
 
+15 # Hobbes 2012-07-18 07:51
You state the public debt "will have to pay it off in at least three ways: through higher taxes, less infrastructure and social spending, and, fatefully, the prospect of painfully slow growth for the foreseeable future." I'm glad you hedged your prediction by saying "at least three ways," because the number one way (conspicuously absent) is to cut military spending by 20, 30 or even 40 percent. We have plenty of money in this country. We're spending it on the wrong damn things.
 
 
+6 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-18 09:18
Could not agree more. The military waste is unreal. It is not about DEFENSE...
money spent on all the wrong causes.
 
 
+6 # Billy Bob 2012-07-18 17:35
Spending more on the military than all the other countries on Earth combined is ITSELF a waste. This has nothing to do with "defense". It's about world domination for the fossil fuel industry and having the American tax payers foot the bill.
 
 
+8 # granny6 2012-07-18 08:42
I was a pre-WarII baby. What my parents taught us was to work hard, give your employer a days work for a days wages. Don't think you can have it all at once. They were married 30 years before they bought a new couch. There was always someone who had furniture for sale. My bedroom set, which I still have, is solid mahogany. It was a barter my father made for a job he did for someone. I am still cooking in the pots and pans I bought 50 years ago. Second lesson buy quality items. Especially shoes, you only are issued one pair of feet. Be as self sufficient as possible I learned to garden as a small child. respect your elders even if you don't agree with them. Never stop learning. Most people thought my father was a college grad when in fact he left school at 16. He subscribed to National Geographic, Scientific American, Consumers Report, Mechanics illustrated, and others. We all learned to read them too. We had to go to church even though he didn't. " How else can you make an intelligent decision about something if you don't know about it's principles. He was right. The Christian religion has some very good principle, too bad people don't follow them. They twist them to suit themselves. Hurrah for the "Nuns on the Bus" for reminding us. I will never be rich, have had a lot of struggles in my live but I also was given a basis to live by. Most of all I can live with myself.
 
 
+3 # Bodiotoo 2012-07-18 09:16
I do not agree with the premise.
The coddled generation. Have every toy and gadget under the sun but do not know how to dig a hole, fit a pipe, hammer a nail...thumbs are good texting and that is about it.
Sorry but I had to work through High School. ten years od factory rat, builders helper etc before college.
I didn't have 4K in assets when I was 35...I was working for myself figuring out how to...with no family or parental aid to fall back on.
I do not think I am particulary gifted, but I have always gotten back up, dusted myself and started again.
If governemnt has to srep in...lets try limiting the jobs and the wages to encourage people to think and do for themselves...he lp yes, life time rides no way!
 
 
+7 # epmorgan 2012-07-18 09:21
Any generational "explanation" of where we are today (or, for that matter, what happened in the 60s) is way off the mark and is basically a distraction from dealing with the forces that have produced the economy (and society) we now live with. It's actually an old, old pattern going back to the way mass media dealt with 60s movements from around 1964 up to the present. I document this in my book "What Really Happened to the 1960s: How Mass Media Cultured Failed [and fails] American Democracy" (U.Press of Kansas, 2011) if some are interested.
 
 
+7 # oakjoan 2012-07-18 12:13
I'm sure that many have posted this same thought, but I'll add my 2 cents anyway. When I went to UCLA, the tuition was something like $14 a semester. How did the tuitions at state schools and universities get so high (even adjusting for inflation since the mid 60's when I was in school). Have the funds diminished so much? It's truly horrifying.
 
 
+2 # anys4usa 2012-07-18 15:59
Okay, I want to thank you for bringing up the subject of inter-generatio nal challenges and differences, which has always interested me. As an x-er, I have always felt screwed by the boomer generation. After-all, when they lost their retirements between 2001- and 2008 they kept working, which kept me from getting a full time job in education, due to a saturated job market and high rate of cronyism in my state. My generation wasn't coddled by our parents, but are rather "free range" as I like to call it. We could actually go outside to play on the crappy playgrounds or bike all day, and no one cared. We always returned for meals. You guys were spoiled, sorry.
I myself have finally gotten a good paying job, and have paid my dues along the way--even becoming furloughed when the depression hit hard in 2009. Now at 43 I have hit my earning years, just before my kids enter college, themselves. When I complained years ago about the lack of jobs, I was told to wait and hang in there, and that's what I'll tell you too. Of course by the time you get yours, you'll be competing with x-er kids. Don't worry, employers like you better (except for the whole 'entitlement' bit.) Y'all have to drop it and drop it right quick!
 
 
+7 # granny6 2012-07-18 16:54
What "entitlement"? the Social Security I paid into? Medicare? I also had an IRA and a 401K. I paid my taxes every year, did not give my kids what ever they wanted. My car is old enough to vote. I also learned not to get an education with the thought of making big bucks. Do what your are good at. We all have talents. Sometime when you are with a group ask what the others what their talents are and what are their hobbies. You will be amazed at how talented they are as a group. Now if we can only translate into a nation like our forefathers did............ ......
 
 
+2 # Innocent Victim 2012-07-18 19:03
Joel Kotkin is selling generational warfare, when the culprits are not defined by age but by economic and social class. The corruption and fraud that has brought the US to its current state are from the careerism and irresponsibilit y of our politicians and the greed of the class of wealth that they serve. The baby boomers, as an age group, did not commit financial fraud. That was done by the executives of the major banks that freed to do whateve r they pleased by the repeal of Glass-Steagall and the de-regulation financial derivatives that Bill Clinton achieved as President. Combined with the non-feasances of those to whom the remaining financial was entrusted, Alan Greenspan, Timothy Geithner, Ben Bernanke, et al., the foxes were assured that the hen-house was unguarded.
Joel Kotkin is blaming the older generation, which has been victimized with the younger, for the moral depravity of our congresses and presidents since and including Bill Clinton.
 
 
+2 # inpectore 2012-07-19 04:37
How many of you hav read Paul Krugman's latest book, End This Depression Now?

Raise your hands.
 
 
+2 # The Saint 2012-07-19 06:44
For most 20-25 year olds, it's not the boomers--at least not us in our mid to late 60s--that are to blame. It's the 80s and 90s
crowd especially the Reagan, "Wall Street" crowd.They were not the working blue collar crowd that were screwed in the 80s. Elders and early boomers should be working with the young to change this greedy capitalist system--look at Krugman's article.The young and the old should unite in an "outsider" critique before more of the young are sucked into this machine. Check your facts.
 
 
+5 # coberly 2012-07-19 06:46
just to try to get the message out:

The current article by Kotkin is part of a billion dollar plan to destroy Social Security, in part by creating "generational warfare." Don't let them get away with it. You can have Social Security forever. Even "doing nothing" would not hurt Social Security. You might be wiser to raise your own tax one tenth of one percent per year to guarantee you will be able to retire at the same age with the same benefits as current. This is actually a big boost in benefits... higher real value and longer life expectancy. But if you don't force the Congress to listen, they will "fix" SS in a way that kills it so it won't work as retirement insurance for you.

most of you are not fooled, but even talking about "being screwed" instead of fighting to stop THEM from screwing you is giving them all the victory they need.
 
 
+3 # coberly 2012-07-19 06:51
that one tenth of one percent per year amounts to forty cents per week each year.

strictly speaking it is not "needed." but it would stop the Congress from other fixes... raising the retirement age, means testing, cutting benefits... that would absolutely destroy Social Security.

you will get that payroll tax increase back when you need it most. with interest. but you need to DO something. maybe look up coberly, social security, angrybear blog.. for a start.
 
 
0 # mcav 2012-07-19 07:51
I completely agree with your assessment Mr. Kotkin. Millennials were ill-advised to take out student loans and even to go to college if they were not academically prepared. Their grandparents are more sloppy and less grateful than they realize for living in a clean environment without the threat of global warming overshadowing their daily life. Acquisition became their mantra and a sense of entitlement developed on both sides of the political aisle. Unfortunately, the greedy out-number the ethical among us.

I encourage you to breathe new life into a stale and broken system and don't rely on institutions and rhetoric: Ethics and nobility have left the room. It's not 1955 any more and Glenn Miller is dead. It's your turn now. I am confident you can make it better.
 
 
+2 # Selwick 2012-07-20 15:36
And who voted Reagan and all the crooks in, back then? And who thought buying and having even more stuff is great and who overloaded the kids with material things instead of passing down some real values? (not the one we read hear also: I had to walk to school - uphill both ways)
I live in a retirement area - plenty of jobs are taken by boomers who do not have to work - or they have to work because they want to maintain a lifestyle they are used to from back then. A lifestyle that is not realistic anymore for younger people. And then they come to Starbucks and ask for Senior citizen discount.
I agree it's the corporations and banks that got us in the hole. Nevertheless, I consider the boomers as the Generation Me.
 
 
+1 # Salty 2012-07-22 11:45
America (and the world) has been screwed by International Criminals, who the Republican Party represents, and also many in the Democratic Party. Our great Ron Paul is a racist with fascist leanings. The Greens have been taken over by right wingers. Anyone with money can now manipulate America and the rest of the world via banking, oil, and military schemes. Unions are gone bye bye. Americans are not likely to seriously object, and are too ignorant (on purpose) to know what to object to. The Tea Party is simply the Right Wing of the Republican Party paid for by the Ultra Right Koch Brothers and others.
I don't blame anyone but the ultra rich and their followers.
I will never support them. I will not fight for their schemes. I will never advise my students to fight for them in any of their Iraq-Afghanista n-Iran schemes. They are world criminals as evil and crazy as any HItler or Stalin, and more greedy.
The rich will destroy us and our world, unless we all -- everyone in world -- work to suppress them. And I don't see that happening right now, or just the first little flames of it firing up in the Middle East and other oppressed areas, but not here at the center of the economic world.
 

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