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Cory writes: "This has nothing to do with a war on religion or religious freedom. This is all about attacking, blocking, and otherwise hindering President Obama from accomplishing anything that could be interpreted as successful or popular with the people. This is politics, and politics trumps God in this country."

President Barack Obama in Tucson, Arizona, 01/12/11. (photo: Jewel Samad/Getty Images)
President Barack Obama in Tucson, Arizona, 01/12/11. (photo: Jewel Samad/Getty Images)



What It's All About

John Cory, Reader Supported News

15 February 12

 

Reader Supported News | Perspective

an we stop the nonsense about contraception and morality and call this crap what it is? Politics.

Attack Obama.

This has nothing to do with a war on religion or religious freedom. This is all about attacking, blocking, and otherwise hindering President Obama from accomplishing anything that could be interpreted as successful or popular with the people. This is politics, and politics trumps God in this country. Mitch McConnell made it perfectly clear when he said that the priority of the GOP was "for President Obama to be a one-term president." Everything else is just tinsel.

These people are shills for their own self-interests and political gain. It's all a scam, a game of Three-card Monte on the corner of Church Street and Pennsylvania Avenue run by Bible-thumping Bunco artists looking to fleece the voting public.

Maybe it's just me, but getting lectures on morality from the Catholic Church is like getting cooking lessons from cannibals. The broth smells so good until you realize that you are the prime ingredient.

Let's be honest, all these voices howling about "freedom of religion" are the same shrill voices that denounce mosques in America. These are the same folks who claim that the religion of a billion people in this world is not a "religion" at all, and see nothing wrong with allowing one group of citizens to vote on whether or not the other citizens should be allowed to build a house of worship in their city. Religious freedom? Really?

These are the Grand Poobahs of Piety and their sanctimonious Sisters of the Smelling Salts running hither and yon as they flap their lips and arms to draw nearer, not to heaven, but to the holy wallet of Our Lady of Campaign Cash in order to vanquish that heathen radical liberal centrist Obama.

This is shadow theatre - sleight of hand and misdirection - with a twofer value. While the holier-than-thou players shout and jump for Jesus onstage, the real show is backstage. Attack Obama and put women in their place. Is God great, or what!

These heroic hypocrites battle big government and valiantly strive to shrink it down to a size that will fit in your bedroom, or more importantly, in a woman's uterus or other lady parts. Of course, they fight equally hard (forgive me) to free penises everywhere in order to preserve a true manly America. Viva Viagra!

The right-wing Christian conservative movement has been courted and embraced by the GOP. United, they move forward to weaken the Violence Against Women Act, push state laws to loosen domestic abuse and defund Planned Parenthood. And, on a subtle and chilling note, consider how Ron Paul recently responded to Piers Morgan when questioned about rape and medical treatment to prevent pregnancy. Paul said: "No. If it's an honest rape, that individual should go immediately to the emergency room ..." And no, Piers Morgan never asked Ron Paul to define what he meant by "honest rape," or what constitutes an "honest rape."

Most Americans have more common sense than the holy trinity of politicians, pundits, and priests. Just look at what happened recently with the Ellen DeGeneres fiasco. If you saw Ellen defend herself on her show, it was a moment of class and humor and humanity. The audience roared approval. Damn those suburban lesbian housewives! Damn tolerance and equality!

JC Penney refused to buckle to the One Million Moms (not really one million), and publicly stated that Ellen shared their values and their employee's values and they looked forward to a successful partnership with Ellen. Fans inundated the One Million Moms with indignation and disgust, so much so that apparently that hateful group has now taken down its Facebook page and skulked off to dark coven meetings in search of their souls. (One Million Moms is not the same as or affiliated with Million Moms Challenge, which is a worldwide health-oriented endeavor to help moms around the world.)

Damn the free-market!

And what about Obama? He announced a compromise on this contraception brouhaha as of Friday. How's that working out? Everybody feel better? Didn't think so.

It doesn't matter what President Obama tries, concedes, or compromises on any issue. The hucksters of hypocrisy will turn out to cast stones because that's what they do. They think that the spelling of G-O-D and G-O-P is divine intervention and not merely the separation by ten letters of the alphabet. It is a heavenly omen that designates them as the only and righteous descendents of power over our world. No one else is ever allowed to touch the throne.

This is about power and greed and the hypocritical call of freedom to force others to live and think and do as instructed by those who have elected themselves as the Chosen. Obey without question. God only speaks to me, and those who fund my politics. You have freedom of choice - as long as you choose the right way.

The fear of true democracy, equality, tolerance and choice has never been so obvious as it is today. There is panic in the golden streets of DC.

Washington State just passed marriage equality. The California courts ruled Prop. 8 unconstitutional. More and more Americans don't believe that one group of citizens has the right to limit the unalienable rights of other citizens or to define them as less than. The military has overturned Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Churches are opening their doors to gay members and allowing marriages.

Women are slowly winning the battle for equal pay for equal work. They are uniting in the belief that they own their own bodies, not the state or the church or the man in the gray flannel suit. Women are finding ways to run for public office and to become part of the political process so they can have an equal say in how this country works.

Let's face it, women have power and should be feared. It was Ida Tarbell who exposed the unfair market practices of Standard Oil and helped force the Trust-Busting of President Roosevelt. Emma Goldman took on the causes of poverty and child labor and union issues. Suffragettes brought women the vote. Harriett Tubman, Rosa Parks, Betty Frieden, Germaine Greer and Gloria Steinem and Angela Davis and Billy Jean King and Oprah. >From 1900 to the present, women have moved American politics and culture and art. Woman Power is real.

And this sends a ripple of fear through the great patriarchal order of things. That is why these yahoos of masculinity and righteousness push so hard for the spiritual enslavement of women while pretending to be the protectors of the feminine citizen.

Power and politics. That's what all this mess is about.

I think America still has more good, more empathy and compassion and tolerance than these guys want us to know. Knowledge is a dangerous thing, my friend.

And there is nothing worse than someone with enough knowledge being able to point at the naked emperor in all his shortcomings and say: That guy is naked! And he's no emperor!

-PEACE-


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+18 # Cliffard 2012-02-15 14:54
I look at this issue a little differently. I look at it more as the church's organizational rights (big gov't) versus those of their practitioners (the people).

It's funny how all of those against big gov't and for personal rights when it comes to government, are so willing to abdicate those rights to the 80 year old men who run the church.

Why not let those getting the insurance decide
 
 
+56 # bugbuster 2012-02-15 15:30
Being 80 years old is an asset, not a liability. Wait until you have proved yourself smart enough to stay alive that long before you judge 80 year olds.

Being a high official in the Roman Catholic, however, *is* a liability because you have never raised a child, sweat out a job interview, scuffled to make a loan payment, divorced, remarried, and so on. In other words, your knowledge of life is all vicarious and theoretical and based on dubious scriptures written by committees of God-intoxicated Semites in the forever insane Middle East.
 
 
+11 # Cliffard 2012-02-15 23:01
being an 80 year old man is not asset in deciding whether or not a woman can or should take contraceptives unless that man is in the medical profession and is involved for those reasons
 
 
+9 # Regina 2012-02-16 12:36
And even then she'd be better served by a 40 year old woman with her well-earned M.D.!
 
 
+5 # Billy Bob 2012-02-16 13:36
Being an 80-year-old man OR woman is an asset to society. Let's not turn away alies. Yes, there is such a thing as wisdom with age. Believe me. I've seen it first hand, and I'll be very surprised if people currently under 65 will ever reach it no matter how old they get.

Remember, the generation that is currently over 80 is the last generation to produce and follow through on successful liberal policy.

I agree with bugbuster's comment 100% and I think it was taken out of context. There are good guys and bad guys in every age group. Right now, our side needs more alies and fewer divisions between us and voters.
 
 
-9 # RLF 2012-02-16 06:36
Seems to me that most of the 80 year olds have abdicated thinking and that is how they can stand this country going to shit. They are just concerned that their retirement (which none of us younger folk will enjoy even though we work longer hours for less thanks to you) is not touched in any way.
 
 
+57 # maddave 2012-02-15 16:19
Regarding those 80 year-old men: Ed Butts, bless his soul, said it better than anybody before or since. In his best Italian he summed the contraception issue thus:
You no playa da game, you no makke da rules.

It is my firm judgement that in attacking contraception and women's health issues, the GOP & the Catholic Bishops have trod firmly on their collective dick.

Good on you, guys! Bravo!
 
 
+2 # Michael Lee Bugg 2012-02-16 14:17
Cliffsrd, you are in the right pew with a good observation about those wanting "freedom" from 'Big Government' willfully giving up their freedom to a different organization, but you named the wrong church. The Fascist denomination of the Curch of Infallible Almighty Capitalism is the true church and power through wealth is the One True God! But the people who run this church know that to be free of Big Government interference in the practice of their religion know that they must control Big Government before they can Exorcise it. To do this they must have millions of the unwashed masses conned into the belief that only the Republican denomination has the true Conservatives and that Conservativenes s is next to Godliness, and they need the Church of the Lesser God of Jesus to convince the unwashed masses of this by carefully selecting or rearranging His Words! So, the unwashed masses are really fighting against Big Government "oppression" in favor of Big Business oppression! Amen.
 
 
+40 # humanmancalvin 2012-02-15 15:04
Another trumped up controversy aimed to discredit President Obama. The right wingers know exactly what they are doing, feeding red meat to their wingnut base. Tomorrow there will be yet another faux-anger issue ginned up at the presidents expense. As long as there are suckers willing to buy this nonsense, there will be republican voters.
 
 
-10 # RLF 2012-02-16 06:40
Poor Obama! The republicans and the churches are forcing him to compromise constantly before it is even asked of him. They forced him to hire all of these Chicago school, trikle on me economists for his cabinet. They forced him to hire a balless wonder as AG, forgiving war crimes because it is good politics. He is right where he asked to be...except he is pretending to be one of, and for the 99% now that he needs reelected...wha t a laugh! Obama is the Republican front runner!
 
 
+3 # Michael Lee Bugg 2012-02-16 14:27
Some people just can't handle the truth! This is why I have said for years that Bill Clinton was the best Republican president since Eisenhower! The last truly Democratic President was LBJ because even the otherwise good fellow Carter moved decidedly to the "center". He has done far more good for the common man since he left the White House and rejoined the common man. I suspect Obama will do the same, hence his too often repeated statement, "Now you have to make me do it," usually followed by the statement, "We just didn't have the votes".
 
 
+43 # Betty Lou 2012-02-15 15:08
I totally agree. The CHURCH represents MONEY and POWER neither of which were preached by Jesus.
 
 
+50 # MEBrowning 2012-02-15 15:17
Bravo once again, John Cory, for speaking truth to power with clarity and eloquence.

Now, someone please tell me how the Virginia legislature could pass a bill requiring all women seeking an abortion to submit to a trans-vaginal ultrasound — without their or their doctor's consent! — and Virginia's governor, Bob McDonnell, says he will sign it. The FBI, by the way, defines any vaginal penetration without consent as rape. Virginia is therefore about to legalize a form of rape.

And who pays for this big-government fiasco? Tea Partiers should be screaming in self-righteous indignation, but where are they? They're the ones who love to shout, "Get the government out of our lives." Really? What a bunch of hypocrites.

Bob McDonnell is seriously being considered as a front-runner for the Republican Vice Presidential nomination. I've given up trying to understand anyone who votes Republican.
 
 
-4 # bugbuster 2012-02-15 17:02
People who vote Republican do so because of their selective awareness and sensibilities. They filter out anything that would bother them.

Their distaste for the left is just as strong as that of the left for the right. In that sense, we are all the same, just mirror images of each other.

The blinder for both sides is ideology itself. It is the real enemy. It doesn't matter *what* ideology. Ideology is a selective fact filter that makes all ideologues selectively ignorant. Clear thinking can only go on in its absence.
 
 
+28 # MEBrowning 2012-02-15 19:30
I disagree that by and large, people to the left of center are blinded by ideology. Nonpartisan peer-reviewed research has borne out time and again that there are fundamental differences between the conservative and the liberal brain. Talk to a liberal and you get someone who can consider different perspectives on an issue, who tends to at least tolerate conflicting points of view, and who understands that life is not all black and white. Talk to a conservative —if you can without being interrupted or demonized — and you get someone who covers their ears, scoffs at nuance and regurgitates the lies they heard yesterday from Limbaugh, Hannity and Drudge. The fact that the Republican political platform is so at odds with what the majority of Americans, Republicans included, say they want and need — and yet they *still* vote in lockstep for Tea Party madness, for ever-more-intru sive government and against their own economic self-interest — that's what I find so mind-boggling.
 
 
+11 # Billy Bob 2012-02-15 21:21
You're right. But, eventually you do have to pick a side. That doesn't mean you close your mind. It just means that you no longer try to pretend there's no difference between the two.

I'm not accusing you of squishiness, by the way. I just notice that a lot of people make the mistake of taking what you said to the next level and coming to the conclusion that it doesn't matter, or that there's no difference between the choices we face.
 
 
+1 # RLF 2012-02-16 06:45
There isn't and the sooner this country gets the right wing insanity out by turning itself into a 3rd world nation with a few rich overlords with death squads, the sooner we can get on track again. I'm convinced that the present state of the nation is such that it can no longer be sustained but that no politician can do it, only the people and the vast majority of them are asleep to depravity of the ruling class.
 
 
+3 # Billy Bob 2012-02-16 13:30
Are you suggesting that there's no difference between liberalism and conservatism, or are you suggesting that there are no liberals?

There's a HUGE difference between agreeing with the Seperation of Church and State and disagreeing with it. If you can't see that difference, there's no point in arguing.
 
 
+3 # MEBrowning 2012-02-16 22:41
I think what RLF is suggesting is that the pendulum has to swing even farther toward oligarchy in order to wake up the sleepers among us (there are many) so we can recalibrate this severely off-balance society and move forward again. That's my take, anyway.
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-17 08:54
He may be right. The problem with that, is that if the pendulum swings much farther we won't be able to recalibrate. It's an ongoing discussion we've had. My belief is that, once it reaches that point, there's very little we could do to fix it short of a bloody revolution. A bloody revolution would fail. In the meantime, life for the rest of us would get unbearably worse. I still love my children and I'm unwilling to gamble with their ability to speak without being sent to a death camp or their ability to eat without having to kill someone for the food. If the North Korean government had the might of the American government, it would be unstoppable. For that reason, I don't want to see our country fall further down the slippery slope to absolute totalitarianism . That's what the right wants to create in the disguise of "personal freedom".
 
 
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-02-17 12:40
I didn't finish my thought for some reason. That last sentence should have been:

"That's what the right wants to create in the disguise of 'personal freedom' and I don't think it's wise to give another inch, because gaining liberty is usually done through a much bloodier process than losing it was"
 
 
+8 # Alice 2012-02-16 11:22
Sounds like a good argument for CNN News, which pits two people with opposite arguments on every issue. The problem with that argument is that everything is not black and white, but the Right is unwilling to accept anything with even the smallest tinges of gray in it.
 
 
+5 # Regina 2012-02-16 12:40
They are all characterized by ignorance -- no knowledge of history, government, logic, science,.....th e list is long. They just keep regurgitating the party line as expounded on Fox Noise.
 
 
+26 # karenvista 2012-02-15 15:34
Do men understand that they will be forced to pay child support for all the unwanted children resulting from the Republicans' ban on contraception, if they succeed?
 
 
+4 # RLF 2012-02-16 06:47
Tell those babies to get a job!
 
 
+10 # Don Thomann 2012-02-15 15:43
John, you are right on!!
 
 
+8 # Doubter 2012-02-15 19:45
Perfectly stated and passionate article. I just wish it had wider diffusion as telling you and me about it is like Preaching to the Choir. (except for fuster cluk and robt eagle and a few other retrogrades)
 
 
+32 # angelfish 2012-02-15 15:44
These Cretins who CLAIM to be Christians do NOT know the meaning of the word! Jesus said, "If a man asks for you to walk a mile with him, go with him TWO", and, "If a man asks for your shirt, give him also your coat". Everything and ALL the EGREGIOUS Bast**ds do is ANATHEMA to the teachings of Christ! If they think our good God will praise them on Judgment Day, they are SADLY mistaken! There are none so blind as those who WILL not see. They have been blind for FAR too long and need to open their eyes to the "fruits" of their inaction and obstruction! The damage they have caused, and continue to inflict on America will be felt for generations! They despise our President because he is black and intelligent, two attributes these old, bigoted, "ME firsters" can't abide! They prefer the likes of a Reagan or a shrub like "dubya", fools who are easily led and eager to do the bidding of others. Most of them have become Multi-Millionai res while in our Congress. How so, you might ask? By "Rigging" the system in their OWN favor and manipulating the SCOTUS and Laws to fulfill their OWN personal agenda! Remember on Election Day and FREE us from these Greedy Old Pigs before the damage they do is irreversible! P.S. This President could WALK on Water for these Creeps, but again, they would say, "Yes, but can he dance"? Not only would they not recognize Christ if he were to make a second coming, HE wouldn't recognize THEM! Even so, come quickly, Dear Lord.
 
 
+13 # lynnK 2012-02-15 15:57
Cliffard--when you get boobs then you'll be qualified to give your opinion on this matter!! By the way the church and the insurance companies don't have boobs either.
 
 
+33 # xflowers 2012-02-15 16:00
John, I agree. It's all about power. The GOP wants it; the Catholic bishops want it. And how do they define it? Religious freedom? You and I both know that's a ruse. Their "freedom" as Orwell so aptly put it, is my slavery. I'm furious that my freedom, and the freedom of every woman in the country, is even up for debate in 2012.
 
 
+11 # bluepilgrim 2012-02-15 16:06
I have no doubt that much of this is politically motivated, but I don't dismiss all those who are 'true believers' and authoritarians who really think it's OK for them to limit the rights of other people (especially women and others they consider inferior). The latter are, of course, recruited by and used by the political manipulators -- and even some of these politicians have their own personal neuroses or weird beliefs to deal with.
 
 
+28 # giraffee2012 2012-02-15 16:08
John Cory always hits the nail squarely on the head.

If we get out and vote in 2012 (unlike sitting home as we did in 2010) to vote in Democrats and Independents - I believe some big changes will bring us back to square one. As Clint Eastwood said on Super Bowl Sunday "let's start the second half" (I know his ad was about cars and taken out of context by the GOP - and their rhetoric hurt them)

Contact your local Democratic headquarters and find out how YOU can get people to vote (etc) -

For those who are disappointed in the President to date - re-read this article and also go on the W.H. Web site to see "what" the President has accomplished rather than listen to the lame street FAUX (etc) news.

It is not the right time to think about voting 3rd party - a vote for a 3rd party is deducting a vote from President Obama (in simple terms - it's a give away TO THE GOP/TP)

Notice that it is "men" who are screaming about women's issues and rights. They don't offer ideas to fix the economy BECAUSE they have no intention to do so. Norquist publicaly stated that Mitt will "do as he's told"

The GOP/TP should use their time fighting for tougher outcomes to rapists and to those who abuse women and children - for these people have (UNBELIEVABLY true) lighter sentences (consequences) than even drug users (especially black people who get 2x the sentence for same crimes committed by a white) -
 
 
0 # Doubter 2012-02-19 00:41
"do as he's told"
They are ALL puppet clowns hanging by their strings.
Figureheads; bought servants of the REALLY powerful. Politics is a meaningless side SHOW. A game for us to play at. Just like the entertainment industry; another "opiate of the people."
Religion and even religious arguments too.(I've practically given them up) All distractions so we don't even wonder who's pulling OUR strings.
 
 
+30 # walt 2012-02-15 16:12
Well, duh!

Anyone who has not observed the GOP's conduct for the last three years has to be oblivious. The GOP's main goal is to prevent any and all Obama successes. They care not about success for the people and the country, and focus on discrediting the President at all costs. They would even have let the country default last August when they created that shameful scene over the debt ceiling.

From the Affordable Care Act to the Payroll Tax Cut issues, the Republicans continue on the one path that Mitch McConnell so shamefully and unprofessionall y declared--to "make President Obama a one term president."

They deserve to be voted out en masse in November!
 
 
+2 # angelfish 2012-02-16 15:17
Bravo, Walt, BRAVO!!!
 
 
+23 # lneidhold 2012-02-15 16:12
I think Mr. Cory has nailed this one. Well said.
 
 
+14 # cordleycoit 2012-02-15 16:15
Finally some one who can write the way people see and feel the constant fleecing by the masters of spectacle. Every6 four years all the spare change in the country is sucked up by the political process and dumped into the hands of corporate media and redistributed to the deserving rich who place the bots in office to continue the process. I have listened to a conlave of bishops who are unsafe at any speed attempt to unseat pols. We get to watch two brothers fpap out of their tombs in Kansas sucking the life out of a reeling republic and a press with bloated pockets and eyes taped shut beg the undead for a kiss to their necks. The people are being submerged in excrement.
 
 
+14 # lcarrier 2012-02-15 18:20
John Cory shows how out of tune the current GOP is. The election in November will bear that out.
 
 
+3 # diacad 2012-02-15 18:27
I agree with Cory concerning the Catholic Church with its backward official position on birth control. But why does he support PPACA? The real point is that Obamacare (PPACA) stepped in a cowpie because it is largely tied to subsidizing employer-provid ed private insurance. Why does Cory defend another typical Obama backslide from his pre-election support of single-payer, essentially an improved Medicare expanded to all age groups and conditions? Be sure to look at the Lawrence O'Donnell video link http://www.pnhp.org/news/2012/february/lawrence-o'donnell-msbnc-host-if-we-had-single-payer-we-wouldn't-be-in-this-mess . Many Catholic women are way ahead of the hierarchy and accept birth control when needed. The problem arises if they work for a church-affiliat ed organization and can't get coverage for that reason. That goes for certain other denominations besides Catholics. If Medicare would cover it, religious employers would not be involved - it would be up to the individual. In fact, the "fix" that Obama (or Biden) came up with does something like that - allows an "end run" for those who wish to get birth control coverage opposed by their employer. Too late, the Catholic hierarchy and other reactionaries are making a lot of demagoguery about Obama being opposed to "religious freedom", when they are the ones opposing the freedom of women to choose whatever their conscience allows in these delicate matters. Most of the loudest voices are male...
 
 
+15 # margpark 2012-02-15 20:17
It is perfectly plain to my 75 year old mind that the GOP thinks the government belongs to them. When a Democrat wins a presidential election they go bat shit and immediately start attacking the president. God help the democratic president who has failings i.e Clinton. But they haven't been any easier on Obama, they just can't find his failings.
 
 
+9 # Rick Levy 2012-02-15 20:26
It's not exclusively males who are anti-women's right's and equality. Think such prominent personages as Michele Bachmann,and Karen Handel. Also see
http://feministsforchoice.com/womens-history-month-anti-choice-women.htm

Homophobia is also not a male-only domain as the above One Million Moms organization domain attests, even if the numbers of this organization is far less.
 
 
-13 # lnason@umassd.edu 2012-02-15 21:09
Cory claims that the same folks who are currently objecting are the folks who objected to the Islamic Center near Ground Zero. This is patently false.

The Catholic Bishops not only did not object to the mosque but they actually supported President obama's health care act.

I am secular and pro-choice so I have some sympathy for Obama's values and I certainly think the Catholic Church does not take the correct position with regard to abortion, but the complaint of the Catholic Bishops (and some Jews, fundamentalist Protestants and others) clearly has nothing to do with "politics" and everything to do with their religious beliefs and their defense of the first amendment.

Saying otherwise is a smear.

Lee Nason
New Bedford, Massachusetts
 
 
+18 # Billy Bob 2012-02-15 21:29
Ms. Nason - maintenence supervisor at U. Mass.:

You had me until you claimed that forcing others to agree with your opinions is a First Amendment right. This isn't about being required to use rubbers. This is about being ALLOWED to make personal decisions. Right-wingers, such as yourself, want to take away that choice from other people, because it offends you.

Pretending this is about anything other than taking away the First Amendment rights of people who want access to the family planing options their insurance pays for is disingenuous

Billy Bob
USA
 
 
-4 # pbbrodie 2012-02-15 22:13
Good grief. You don't really believe this tripe, do you?
 
 
+7 # angelfish 2012-02-16 15:27
Excuse me, Mr. Nason, but it has EVERYTHING to do with "Politics"! The Bishops were all for President Obama's solution until they were swayed by the Ultra-Right Wing Nut-Jobs who REFUSE any and ALL Legislation by this President, EVEN things THEY formerly presented and beat the drum FOR! We STILL have separation of Church and State in this Country and I'll be DAMNED if I'll see MY Tax dollars go to ANY institution that prohibits a woman from seeking out the Health Care she wants and needs! Let the "Church" fund their schools and hospitals! The Conservative Nazi/Fascists have gone too far this time and will soon meet their "Waterloo" at the Ballot Box come November!
 
 
0 # Doubter 2012-02-19 00:47
Once you start going down the slippery slope of aiding and abetting religious institutions, you'll be lucky if it doesn't end in a Theocracy.
 
 
+23 # Billy Bob 2012-02-15 21:15
Because I send one of my kids to a Catholic school, I was subjected to yet another political email from my archdiocese. This one was brazenly anti-Democratic and brazenly dishonest about the facts of this controversy.

The most telling line in the email was this one:

"This mandate forces virtually all insurance plans to offer such services"

That just cracks me up. The operative words here are, "OFFER" and "SERVICES". The email heading was, "HHS Edict Will Force Catholics to Violate Conscience".

What we're discussing is "violating the conscience" of people who want to take away other people's ability to exercise THEIR conscience! No one is being forced to have an abortion. Non-Catholics who work in hospitals and universities are being allowed to make their own decisions.

By the way, I wish this wasn't perceived as an exclusively Catholic issue. Right-wing protestant groups are just as rabid as the Council of Catholic Bishops. In fact, the bishops are FAR to the right of the majority of actual American Catholics.

I would URGE my fellow liberals to NOT fall for the bait of attacking Catholics. If you can avoid it, PLEASE resist that urge. If Catholic lay people don't feel attacked, they will mostly vote Democratic in the next election, regardless of what the bishops want to shove down our throats.

Just think about it.
 
 
+12 # Majikman 2012-02-16 00:09
BillyBob, Speaking as a devout atheist, I haven't gotten the impression that liberals are attacking the laity...quite the contrary. Those dam bishops are another matter entirely.
Right wing fanatics have all kinds of sacred props: crosses, flags, guns, to drag out as needed.
 
 
+6 # Billy Bob 2012-02-16 13:28
I hope you're right. Attacking the bishops is one thing. Attacking "Catholicism" is another. The difference is the same as attacking right-wing lunatic phony "Christians", and attacking Christianity.

If santorum was an atheist, he'd find another excuse for many of his beliefs. The fault wouldn't be with his atheism, but with himself. Sometimes the agendas are not what they're presented to be. Organized religion in this country is under attack, but not from the people who believe in the REAL First Amendment, but from the right-wing that wants to hijack it for political purposes. Even atheism is affected, as you may be aware, if you've ever argued against a libertarian who claims to be an atheist.
 
 
+4 # Doubter 2012-02-16 13:24
Good advice, but as a 'devout Agnostic' (and having lived in Latin America) I find the church hierarchy a logical and perfect target for criticism.
 
 
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-02-16 18:26
Speaking as a devout Catholic (w/ strong tendencies toward Eastern mysticism) and with a few deacons in my immediate family, I agree.
 
 
+7 # soularddave 2012-02-15 22:40
Let me offer two thing with which we can consider, for ourselves, the pressures on formulating various laws in the USA. I'm making this ad generic as I can.

First:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Second:
es·tab·lish·ment (-stblsh-mnt)
n.
1.
a. The act of establishing.
b. The condition or fact of being established.

2. Something established, as:
a. An arranged order or system, especially a legal code.
b. A permanent civil, political, or military organization.
c. An established church.
d. A place of residence or business with its possessions and staff.
e. A public or private institution, such as a hospital or school.

3. often Establishment An established social order, as:
a. A group of people holding most of the power and influence in a government or society. Often used with the.
b. A controlling group in a given field of activity. Often used with the.
 
 
-2 # ojkelly 2012-02-15 22:53
The piece is red meat for the readers. I am unclear as to the basis for the claim that the Catholic Church is denouncing mosques, although the image of missionary stew is followed by a reference to "the same shrill voices" without identification.
During the epidemic that killed so many, that body was in the forefront of providing palliative care to the afflicted , while it's leaders denounced homosexuality. There is no black and white, much as one wants it.
I think the Catholic church in NYC actually has experience with mosques and the believers who attend as opposed to polemicists who have neither.
I believe Mr Nasson has the humanist view correctly, Christian, Jewish, secular, Muslim or otherwise, but humanist.
 
 
0 # freeportguy 2012-02-16 00:25
To GOP member, EVERY SINGLE position, decision, vote, bill and others comes down to ONE simple question in mind (and if they sometimes forget, they get remionded): WHO'S YOUR DADDY? (and I'm not talking about biological father)

Voters should consider that!
 
 
+9 # Pondering and Pandering 2012-02-16 06:21
This latest attack on the President should be good news for progressives. It shows Republicans to be desperate as they turn to social issues when a majority of us are concerned with jobs, healthcare, and foreign policy. Any real disciple of Jesus the Christ would not be acting this way at all. It is notable too, that even the oft criticized Catholic Church has come around to support the compromise offered so gracisouly by President Obama.

If they turn to Rick Santorum to do their dirty work his impression of a character in the movie The Hand Maid's Tale is not going to resonate with a lot of us too well.
 
 
+4 # Ray Kondrasuk 2012-02-16 09:18
G.O.P. = God's Own Party.

Ann Coulter said it: The religious right versus the secular left.
 
 
+4 # Feral Dogz 2012-02-16 11:39
My hope is that the Pres. is doing what Muhammad Ali(Cassius Clay)used to call the Rope-a-dope, where he would get up against the ropes and let his opponent deliver body blows, the force of which was absorbed mostly by the ropes. The opponent would thus exhaust himself. Then Ali, at the appropriate moment, would deliver the the coup de grace. The GOP seems to be foolishly co-operating with this strategy. Hopefully the Pres. has not taken the payoff to take a dive and will come out swinging soon.
 
 
+2 # Ray Kondrasuk 2012-02-16 14:55
G.O.P. = Greedy One Percent?

Or, since he says the top priority is to limit Barack to one term, maybe there's a plaque on Mitch McConnell's desk that says
G.O.P. = "Guillotine Obama's Presidency"
 
 
+2 # angelfish 2012-02-16 15:28
No Ray, it's Greedy Old Pigs!
 
 
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-02-16 18:29
I thought it was Grandstanding Oil Prostitutes!
 
 
+1 # angelfish 2012-02-16 20:21
You MAY be RIGHT, Billy Bob. That fits their persona as well. How about Grandiose Overbearing Prigs?
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-17 08:45
That's good too!

What about: Grouchy Oligarchy Promoters
 
 
+1 # angelfish 2012-02-17 10:40
I think we're on a roll! Then there's Grumpy Obstructionist Poops!
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-17 12:50
I'm almost running out. One I thought would be appropriate would be, Growing Open Pustules!

It's an analogy for their corruption and its drain on our collective freedom.
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-17 12:51
I'm pretty sure you can do better than my last post.
 
 
+1 # angelfish 2012-02-17 19:01
I'm running dry myself, Billy Bob, but I could probably come up with a few more, in time. Let's see,...Ghastly Obnoxious Pinheads...? Yes, I think I'm losing my Muse. Let me work on it awhile longer.
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-17 23:38
I came up with a few:

Giant Oppressive Piranhas
Gorging Offensive Predators
Greying Obnoxious Primates
Going-Out Party
Granting Open Pardons
Greatly Over-Played
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-17 23:40
Granny's On Prozac
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-17 23:44
Gravy Over Pork.
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-18 00:30
Guns Over People
Grabbing Other’s Paychecks
Guzzling Octane Pushers
Ghools Opposing Pleasure
Grifters Oozing Petroleum
Goofballs On Parade
Giving Out Poison
Grazing Off Public
Generating Obscene Prayers
Grooming Oval Poodles
Glad Ocean Poluters
Getting Only Pampered
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-18 09:11
That's "Ghouls Opposing Pleasure".
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-18 00:48
Growling Overcompensatin g Pugs
 
 
+1 # angelfish 2012-02-18 11:51
WOW! You didn't leave me much "wiggle room" but, I'll try. Gargantuan Overblown Procrastinators and Gumptionless Oligarchs Personified! I think I'm done in!
 
 
0 # Billy Bob 2012-02-18 18:01
I had an inspiration late last night. Now the trick is to keep using them. We could keep this going to every article where it's pertinent. Not only would it be fun, but if any of our insults take off with a life of their own we can pretend we're famous!

Someone had to be the first one to call them "repugs", or to call bush jr. "the chimp". Nothing like the satisfaction of a job well done. So, don't quit yet.
 
 
+2 # Billy Bob 2012-02-18 18:02
We can also, just keep using our favorite ones we've invented.

I'm partial to a few already.
 
 
+2 # angelfish 2012-02-18 20:52
I'm with you, Billy Bob. Here's another, Grubby Out-of-touch Psychos!
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2012-02-18 21:49
Another one for the ages! Nice use of the silent 'P'. I never would have thought of that!

What's your favorite one of mine? My favorite one of yours is probably "Grumpy Obstructionist Poops".
 
 
+1 # angelfish 2012-02-19 11:38
I'm kind of partial to that one too! Being a former Psychiatric R.N. gave me the inspiration! "Goofballs On Parade" really strikes my fancy! If EVER there were "Goofballs", THEY surely fill the bill!
 

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