Conason writes: "Long disappointed by Obama's overly solicitous attitude toward banking, defense and national security interests - at the expense of economic justice and civil liberties - these disappointed critics find a satisfying echo in Paul's assaults on the banks, the Federal Reserve System, the military-industrial complex, and indeed the entire American super-structure, including the miserably failed war on drugs."
Ron Paul, seen here leaving an Iowa campaign event, has not ruled out a third party run should he fail to capture the GOP nomination. (photo: Joshua Lott/Reuters)
Will Ron Paul Become the New Ralph Nader?
31 December 11
ven as Barack Obama gradually climbs in national polls, more than a handful of the president's once-ardent admirers suddenly seem more attracted by Ron Paul. Long disappointed by Obama's overly solicitous attitude toward banking, defense and national security interests - at the expense of economic justice and civil liberties - these disappointed critics find a satisfying echo in Paul's assaults on the banks, the Federal Reserve System, the military-industrial complex, and indeed the entire American super-structure, including the miserably failed war on drugs. As a libertarian, he doesn't actually share the liberal perspective on these issues, but sometimes sounds as if he does.
For some people, perhaps, that is enough.
As a seasonal fad unlikely to persist beyond Iowa, a minor liberal flirtation with Paul wouldn't matter at all. While he has provided much entertainment over the past few weeks, scaring the Republican establishment with his anybody-but-Romney climb in the polls, he undoubtedly understands that he will not be the nominee of their party (and in calmer moments, so do they). His prescriptions for government and the economy may be misguided, to put it kindly, but his passionate support for the Bill of Rights is refreshing, especially because so many Republicans and too many Democrats are prepared to snip or even scrap that document. So is the consistency of his current stands on such issues as narcotics, marriage, and military engagement abroad. Which are only the most obvious reasons he will always be rejected by the GOP, even as his dedicated supporters occasionally win a momentary victory in a straw poll or a pseudo-convention.
But what if Paul should decide to run on the Libertarian Party ticket next year? He ran for president as a Libertarian in 1988, and he has coyly hinted that he might do so again in 2012, with that party's leaders practically begging him to accept their nomination when the Republican primaries end. He could either defeat former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson, who recently announced that he has left the Republican Party to seek the Libertarian nomination - or ask Johnson, who supported Paul in 2008, to join the ticket as his vice presidential candidate. In many respects, Ron Paul for President is as much a family business as an ideological crusade, so the incentives for him to continue into November will be powerful.
For liberals who are drawn to Paul as an outspoken critic of the Federal Reserve, the military budget, and the wars on terrorism and drugs, that would pose a challenge. Like Ralph Nader in 2000, Paul could offer them a tempting opportunity to express their weariness with compromise and complexity; once more they could vote their conscience and voice their frustration. The moral hurdle would be much higher than with Nader, a genuine American icon who carries none of Paul's embarrassing baggage. At the very least, Nader upheld traditional progressive ideals for government, the economy and the environment - while Paul would eagerly repeal a century of advances on all those fronts, if he could.
But for those willing to overlook the racist, homophobic, anti-Semitic, and paranoid Ron Paul newsletters - as well as their putative author's feeble, implausible, and changeable explanations for them - the Texas Congressman might claim to be an alternative to that tired-old-two-party, lesser-of-two-evils ballot choice.
That would appeal only to progressives who suffer from historical amnesia, the chronic affliction of American politics, and were thus unable to recall the consequences of Nader's third-party candidacy. One of those consequences, ironically enough, was the war in Iraq, which probably would not have occurred if Al Gore hadn't forfeited the electoral votes that Nader threw to George W. Bush. Another consequence was the abandonment of the US commitment to mitigate climate change, which dwarfs even the economic debacle of the past few years in its potential toll on humanity. A third consequence was the spike in economic inequality encouraged by Bush tax, spending, and regulatory policies - which will someday seem moderate in retrospect, if Obama loses next year to Mitt Romney with Republicans controlling both houses of Congress.
The Nader supporters of 2000, a fraction of the liberal electorate, didn't get the policies they so urgently desired, of course. They didn't even get a viable Green Party or a lasting movement for change. Instead, they helped to inflict a political disaster from which America has scarcely begun to emerge. In the new year, we may discover whether they wish to revive that nightmare.
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Obama was the one who insured that American citizens and legal immigrants were included in the NDAA as possible targets for rendition, detention without charges or trial or possible execution, at home (on the "homeland battlefield") or abroad.
See the Senate debate between Levin and Udall, wherein Levin makes it perfectly clear that citizens were added to the NDAA at the request of the administration.
So what makes you think that he would appoint people who are against his obvious inclinations toward increasing Administration power over the citizens?
I would have agreed with you before this betrayal.
suffocating framework, though one can obviously both participate in OWS and build a third party and/or support decent candidates. The latter(electora l) strategy on its own seems entirely inadequate at this juncture.
I generally enjoy your pieces Mr. Conason, but on this recurring point, simply repeating it doesn't make it true. Ralph Nader pulls more weight and pushes the political spectrum farther to the progressive end than nearly any other political figure, certainly of those still active.
Indeed, Ron Paul is no good for the Republican party (or the country but for different reasons).
The symptom of which you note has its root in winner-take-all voting. A simple change to instant-run-off , that is ranked choice, voting would immediately cure the problem.
As a side benefit, it might even make people think a little bit more about voting. But of course it will never happen as the current 1% in politics are happy with what they have.
And so it goes in our "democracy". At least Nader is willing to stand-up for the people.
However, as Joe points out, we've been here before. Ralph Nader, whom I still love,was a disaster, and changed history for the worse by his ill-fated presidential run. We mustn't make the same mistake again. Sure, Obama's been a disappointment, he's no FDR or even a Lyndon Johnson, but, funny enough, if re-elected he may turn out to be one of the truly great presidents in that he will have the opportunity to completely reform America from the Supreme Court to climate change and socialized medicine, and maybe even prosecute some of the Wall Street fraudsters. It does look as if the Republican Party is imploding and will be out of commission for at least four years. Bottom line, we have no choice whatsoever but to energetically support Obama. Enough of the leftwing purity and shortsightednes s!
So you do believe in the toothfairy...an d Santa Claus. too.
2) It is no longer about Democrat vs. Republican, both parties are corrupt to the core. Ron Paul is the only major candidate that isn't taking any corporate contributions, is honest and is not corrupt. This country is doomed if they don't wake up and see that most of what the corporate media feeds us is propaganda (RSN is one of the few that usually reports factual based stories).
Gee, could that be because they aren't corporate media?
Most of the stories that I read that actually tell it like it is, are coming out of the foreign press, because America's corporate media won't report anti-corporate viewpoints. RSN gets a lot of their material from the foreign press.
Stop militarism ($1.3 trillion /year) - get USA from the Middle East - these are the priorities NOW.
Support Ron Paul!
Read Ron Paul's official campaign website and budget
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/
and you will see that what he says would be impossible since he would do away with all funding for the U.S. government within 3 years (taxes.) You can't have a government with no funding, so there would be no government. Also, there would be no money to replace the Fed and the U.S. Mint so there would be no money, therefore no commerce except for bartering. How well would that work?
We would have no Federal agencies (I won't burden you with the entire list) for instance, the Department of Energy, which maintains the safety and disposal of our nuclear weapons. We'll just leave them sitting in their silos and hope for the best.
If you think you are for Ron Paul, you'd better read his website and seriously think about what it means.
Also, his newsletters and policies tie him to his closest advisors (Lew Rockwell and Gary Davis) who are Christian Reconstructiona lists and Theocrats. Chew on that for a while.
*Just looked up his website again and he has taken down his "Budgets" because they belied his other promises.
What we should be doing is watching closely to see that the Democrats don't snatch defeat from the jaws of seemingly certain victory, make sure that they get a bunch of TRULY PROGRESSIVE people elected, hold their feet to the fire of "Change" via mass involvement like OWS, and watch out for 2016 (Jeb Bush?? Horrible prospect but at least viable for the reactionaries) as the next U.S. election cycle starts on inauguration day, more's the pity!
Nader might even help with intercessions focusing on common-sense in solidarity with true progressives and helping to purge blue-dogs like the allegedly retiring Ben Nelson of Nebraska who may as well have been a Repug', so their votes REALLY count!
A 'supermajority' ? How about a working majority and the guts to fight for some decent policies? It's a myth that the Democrats couldn't enact anything because they didn't have 60 votes. They really needed only 50 (and Biden's tie-breaker). They simply didn't have the integrity to do anything. Harry Reid is a joke.
The only thing Obama can claim is that he's smarter than whoever the GOP picks, but his policies have for the most part been a continuation of Bush. He has forfeited my vote and many others.
The Democrats are headed for trouble in 2012 and have their leaders to blame, not Ron Paul, Rocky Anderson, or anyone else.
Are you a Republican pretending to be a Progressive? If you were a real progressive, you would know that not voting for Obama is a vote for Republicans. All you have to do is look at what happened in Wisconsin to know why we must vote for Obama.
Obama is a moderate. Face it and stop belly-aching.
The first clause of Article I, Section 8 reads: "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;"
So what is it that is supposedly unconstitutiona l about a tax established by Congress?
Guess how many pieces of legislation he has sponsored that actually got passed?
ONE:
"To authorize the Administrator of General Services to convey a parcel of real property in Galveston, Texas, to the Galveston Historical Foundation."
Wow, what a great legislator. This really shows that he "plays well with others." I'll bet he could get a lot of legislation passed as President.
Don't you??
Ron Paul hasn't changed his tune in decades. He's the same fool he's always been. There are a _very_few_ things on which I can agree with him, but for the most part, he's way out in deep right field ... up against the foul line.
it is basic Human Right to chose place to live
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2011/12/29/ron-paul-and-the-future-of-american-foreign-policy/
1. He knew what those newsletters contained, and was willing to look the other way and pander to racist supporters, or
2. He actually paid no attention to what was published in those newsletters under his name as Editor in Chief, and is therefore not someone able to keep his own house in order much less the nation's business.
Personally,after listening carefully to his positions on a number of issues, I have to go with the first possibility. I don't believe he is a fool. I think he is a racist or, at the very least, is willing to pander to them. But what I think doesn't really matter in this case, because in this day and age of 24 hour news and internet their really is no room for either "documented" racism, or "documented" gross incompetence (of this magnitude) in the oval office. End of story, and it WILL be the end of the story. There really is no way his candidacy can fly in the face of those documents.
Obama is in trouble now, NOT because issues are complex but because he has systematically betrayed virtually every promise he made. It is not his policy 'failures' which are costing him but his failure to fight for fundamental policies. For example, the systematic abandonment of the Bill of Rights in the face of a growing 'security state' is more than troubling. For example, his extension of the Bush tax cuts for the rich is more than annoying. For example, his authorization of political assassination, continued rendition, drone attacks, these are hallmarks of a right-wing presidency.
Conason's error is similar to Obama's in calculation. He has so badly abandoned basic human rights, environmental concerns, and civil liberties as to permanently alienate many, many voters.
He is losing his base and, with it, the election, and he is evidently too removed from what's happening out here to realize it.
In any case, Ron Paul would be the ideal republican candidate. Probably he is unelectable but, most importantly, his nomination would tell the parasitic elite, who have spent years conditioning the republican voter, that very tough times lie just ahead if they don't back off because their favorite stooges were bolting and voting for their nemesis. Certainly they still would have BHO and their property in Congress, but the message that the American sleeping bear might be awakening would be clear and loud. Just by being nominated, RP might do America much good. Otherwise we're still stuck with the same choice of no choice.
But whatever we do, our first act should be to repeal the treasonous 'patriot act' and break up 'homeland insecurity'. No?
For example, since my post, Obama has signed into law the arrest and detain on American soil bill. He pays the appropriate lip service to you Nell, he says he signs it with "reservations." Oh, thank god he's a democrat! a republican would have said he was doing it to protect us and that would have been that. The important thing to understand is that the corporate bosses don't want an American Spring, and so they have directed their stooges to pass a law that will allow them to turn our military against us, should we grow too restless. It is a joke, Nell, and you want to vote for one of the two corporate mouthpieces so the other corporate mouthpiece doesn't get in. Nonsense.
http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/29/ron-pauls-world/?pagemode=print
This is an unconscionable slur upon Paul's character and integrity as a physican who takes his Hippocratic Oath serious.
It is one thing to differ with someone's policies or beliefs. It is another to put forth baseless and unscrupulous lies. The Birthers and those who attack President Obama as a secret Muslim traitor have nothing on your savage lies and distortions.
Be honest about it. The Kochs do not control Paul and they do not agree with him on many things. Whether one supports Paul or not, he is entitled to respect as someone who has stood by his principles for many years.
As for the racist, crazy remarks which turned up in his 'newsletters' some 20 years ago, I doubt that he wrote them, and he was probably at fault for not stopping them at the time. But his philosophy, carefully examined, is not racist. By the way, I probably won't vote for him. I hope to find a better candidate. But he's got more brains than the rest of the GOP field, and more integrity than Obama.
http://phillyimc.org/en/ron-paul-and-churchill-echoes-blood-sweat-and-tears%E2%80%9D
PS googling links often better than clicking them,
So you do believe in the tooth fairy...and Santa Claus too!
if gore had won, they would have had to get him assassinated. so much easier to just fix the election!
we have to let go of this primitive notion that a 2 party election is somehow sacred and anything else mucks up the system. many countries who have better democracies than ours have 3, 4 or even more parties. people can vote for whoever best represents their views and not merely "the lesser of two incompetents"
That being said, Gore won in Florida anyhow, but the next level of fraud (the courts) stole it from him. That being said, Gore would not have been much different than Bush; the two had almost identical family histories and positions. If someone supposedly so different than Bush, like Obomber, can turn out to be BushIII, Gore, the warhawk of the Clinton administration, might have been MORE eager than Bush, even to have reacted when the Chinese got one of our planes more bellicose than Shrub did.
I think the republican party is about to split in two. The two factions are the neo-cons on one side and the teaparty/libert arians on the other. They really have nothing in common other than silly myths like St. Ronald Reagan and low taxes.
I might vote for Ron Paul over Barak Obama because Obama is a neo-con. He pretends to be a progressive and he is on social issues, but on the economy and foreign policy he is a neo-con. At least Ron Paul is not that. He is a social darwinist and all that silliness but he will soon find that the free market does not solve anything. Ebay isn't even a free market.
I just want the US empire and all its military bases and drone terrorist bombing to end. Ron Paul is the only one saying that. He'd have to go up against the CIA and Pentagon and he'd end up just like the last president who tried it did -- Kennedy -- with a bullet in his head. But it would be worth a try.
"It seemed that the notion of justice – economic justice, social justice, environmental justice – that’s what the people in this country want," he said. "They want an equal playing field. They want the laws to apply to everyone equally. And they don’t want our Congress and our president simply serving the interests of the economic aristocracy in this country any longer."
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