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Moore writes: "We are but ten weeks old, yet we have already changed the national conversation. This is our moment, the one we've been hoping for, waiting for. If it's going to happen it has to happen now. Don't sit this one out. This is the real deal. This is it."

Michael Moore visited Occupy Oakland three days after the crackdown, 10/28/11. (photo: KQED News)
Michael Moore visited Occupy Oakland three days after the crackdown, 10/28/11. (photo: KQED News)



Where Does Occupy Wall Street Go From Here?

By Michael Moore, Open Mike Blog

22 November 11

 

Occupy Wall Street: Take the Bull by the Horns

 

his past weekend I participated in a four-hour meeting of Occupy Wall Street activists whose job it is to come up with the vision and goals of the movement. It was attended by 40+ people and the discussion was both inspiring and invigorating. Here is what we ended up proposing as the movement's "vision statement" to the General Assembly of Occupy Wall Street:

We Envision: [1] a truly free, democratic, and just society; [2] where we, the people, come together and solve our problems by consensus; [3] where people are encouraged to take personal and collective responsibility and participate in decision making; [4] where we learn to live in harmony and embrace principles of toleration and respect for diversity and the differing views of others; [5] where we secure the civil and human rights of all from violation by tyrannical forces and unjust governments; [6] where political and economic institutions work to benefit all, not just the privileged few; [7] where we provide full and free education to everyone, not merely to get jobs but to grow and flourish as human beings; [8] where we value human needs over monetary gain, to ensure decent standards of living without which effective democracy is impossible; [9] where we work together to protect the global environment to ensure that future generations will have safe and clean air, water and food supplies, and will be able to enjoy the beauty and bounty of nature that past generations have enjoyed.

The next step will be to develop a specific list of goals and demands. As one of the millions of people who are participating in the Occupy Wall Street movement, I would like to respectfully offer my suggestions of what we can all get behind now to wrestle the control of our country out of the hands of the 1% and place it squarely with the 99% majority.

Here is what I will propose to the General Assembly of Occupy Wall Street:

10 Things We Want
A Proposal for Occupy Wall Street
Submitted by Michael Moore

1. Eradicate the Bush tax cuts for the rich and institute new taxes on the wealthiest Americans and on corporations, including a tax on all trading on Wall Street (where they currently pay 0%).

2. Assess a penalty tax on any corporation that moves American jobs to other countries when that company is already making profits in America. Our jobs are the most important national treasure and they cannot be removed from the country simply because someone wants to make more money.

3. Require that all Americans pay the same Social Security tax on all of their earnings (normally, the middle class pays about 6% of their income to Social Security; someone making $1 million a year pays about 0.6% (or 90% less than the average person). This law would simply make the rich pay what everyone else pays.

4. Reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act, placing serious regulations on how business is conducted by Wall Street and the banks.

5. Investigate the Crash of 2008, and bring to justice those who committed any crimes.

6. Reorder our nation's spending priorities (including the ending of all foreign wars and their cost of over $2 billion a week). This will re-open libraries, reinstate band and art and civics classes in our schools, fix our roads and bridges and infrastructure, wire the entire country for 21st century internet, and support scientific research that improves our lives.

7. Join the rest of the free world and create a single-payer, free and universal health care system that covers all Americans all of the time.

8. Immediately reduce carbon emissions that are destroying the planet and discover ways to live without the oil that will be depleted and gone by the end of this century.

9. Require corporations with more than 10,000 employees to restructure their board of directors so that 50% of its members are elected by the company’s workers. We can never have a real democracy as long as most people have no say in what happens at the place they spend most of their time: their job. (For any U.S. businesspeople freaking out at this idea because you think workers can't run a successful company: Germany has a law like this and it has helped to make Germany the world’s leading manufacturing exporter.)

10. We, the people, must pass three constitutional amendments that will go a long way toward fixing the core problems we now have. These include:
a) A constitutional amendment that fixes our broken electoral system by 1) completely removing campaign contributions from the political process; 2) requiring all elections to be publicly financed; 3) moving election day to the weekend to increase voter turnout; 4) making all Americans registered voters at the moment of their birth; 5) banning computerized voting and requiring that all elections take place on paper ballots.

b) A constitutional amendment declaring that corporations are not people and do not have the constitutional rights of citizens. This amendment should also state that the interests of the general public and society must always come before the interests of corporations.

c) A constitutional amendment that will act as a "second bill of rights" as proposed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt: that every American has a human right to employment, to health care, to a free and full education, to breathe clean air, drink clean water and eat safe food, and to be cared for with dignity and respect in their old age.

Let me know what you think. Occupy Wall Street enjoys the support of millions. It is a movement that cannot be stopped. Become part of it by sharing your thoughts with me or online (at OccupyWallSt.org). Get involved in (or start!) your own local Occupy movement. Make some noise. You don't have to pitch a tent in lower Manhattan to be an Occupier. You are one just by saying you are. This movement has no singular leader or spokesperson; every participant is a leader in their neighborhood, their school, their place of work. Each of you is a spokesperson to those whom you encounter. There are no dues to pay, no permission to seek in order to create an action.

We are but ten weeks old, yet we have already changed the national conversation. This is our moment, the one we've been hoping for, waiting for. If it's going to happen it has to happen now. Don't sit this one out. This is the real deal. This is it.

Have a happy Thanksgiving!

 

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+99 # Kayjay 2011-11-22 17:32
Hey Michael, have a happy turkey day yourself! I really like your 4th and 5th demands. We really need Glass-Steagall back to horse collar out of control corporate practices. And prosecuting the rats that caused the '08 crash. Until some of these greedy SOBs do jail time, they're not gonna stop raiding the nation's vaults. Thanks Michael....chan ge can indeed happen. Just think of what's possible if we get 50 percent of the 99 percent, more involved in their own future. I am a OWS supporter at this moment and forever.
 
 
+36 # Virginia 2011-11-22 22:42
Michael, I gave you more credit than you showed in this post. There are over 24 million families that have lost their homes to foreclosures and evictions - these are the people we need to save. Many of them are homeless, living in their cars or tents because their stellar credit was trashed by the banks in a Ponzi scheme. Sure, we want the fraud exposed and the culprits to go to jail and Wall Street to be regulated - but first let's save the hard working American families that lost their American Dream.

OWS wouldn't be there if it wasn't for the fact that the mortgage-backed securities were the prime focus of the Wall Street Ponzi scheme. Now, we have foreclosures and lost pensions for almost every state and federal government worker, union and corporate 401k beneficiary - the retirement funds are gone. Acknowledge these people - this is their plight, not carbon emissions or universal healthcare. Save the American family - the core is their home. The rest is worthless without stability.
 
 
+2 # dorianb@fuse.net 2011-11-23 18:10
You said it, Virginia!!!
 
 
+1 # fernly2 2011-11-27 13:57
Virginia, perhaps we must protect Main St from Wall St to stop the bleeding first, put in place the NAWAPA jobs, second. With these 2 measures taken global warming ( or cooling), health care, education, shelter and nutrition will be possible because our national budget will be supported by a tax base. We can do this. We were factory equipped to meet these challenges.
 
 
+16 # Rita Walpole Ague 2011-11-23 09:54
Yes, Kayjay, Michael (St. Michael to me) deserves thanks on top of thanks on top of thanks. Great suggestions Mike's given us on what and where to CHANGE.

Please spread the word, far and wide. Time to be givers and then some to the OWSers. For example, no big suprise, the cops in Colorado Springs, without proper notice, shut our OWSers down this past Sunday night, destroying tents, taking survival clothing, etc. evil etc..

The following afternoon, I heard of what had happened the night before as I stopped at the OWS park. I immediately invited any and all in need of a place to stay to escape the bitter cold and going hungry, to ride with me and others, and come up to the ranch I own. Let's open our doors and hearts, and give our sooooo brave brother and sister OWSers all the help and support we can.

Many thanks this Thanksgiving to all who are so strongly determined to win.....
liberty and justice and peace for all.
 
 
+14 # TrueAmericanPatriot 2011-11-23 11:33
Quoting Kayjay:
Hey Michael, have a happy turkey day yourself! I really like your 4th and 5th demands. We really need Glass-Steagall back to horse collar out of control corporate practices. And prosecuting the rats that caused the '08 crash. Until some of these greedy SOBs do jail time, they're not gonna stop raiding the nation's vaults. Thanks Michael....change can indeed happen. Just think of what's possible if we get 50 percent of the 99 percent, more involved in their own future. I am a OWS supporter at this moment and forever.

Happy Thanksgiving to you to, Kayjay! I am in total agreement with you and Michael Moore. I'll even go as far to suggest amending these (all ten of them) to our U.S. Constitution. BTW; HAPPY THANKSGIVING MICHAEL MOORE!
 
 
+3 # dorianb@fuse.net 2011-11-23 18:09
Michael, You missed something VIP. You and OWS need to go to Obama and protest the use of Cluster Bombs. Whle you are there tell him Single Payer System is the only Universal HC plan for the US.
 
 
0 # fernly2 2011-11-27 13:47
Ditto. HR1489 to reinstate Glass-Steagall has 52 co-sponsors last time I looked. I say twist the tails of your representatives like a cow pretending to be asleep. WWW. has ended the charade; we all know what's up. They're not to big to jail says Matt Taibbe. And Lyndon LaRouche says it's do or die (like the dinosaurs). Then on to NAWAPA to get 6 million productive jobs and "Presto!" the Wall Street water boy resigns in disgrace.
 
 
+73 # pernsey 2011-11-22 18:25
I love it all, everything you listed seems right on to me.

Happy Thanksgiving to you too Michael!

I am for OWS and I agree with all written here. Its finally happening, they went to far, and its finally happening!

GO OWS GO!!!
 
 
+56 # ReyHinckley 2011-11-22 19:05
I think you doing a great job working with the occupy movement. All of your points would this country better place to live and safer than we have been for a long time.
 
 
+41 # andreyo 2011-11-22 19:32
Frankly, the list is way too long.
There's lots of great items on it; but there's a bucket full of other good ideas from a thousand and one points of view; and the general population is overwhelmed by words, statistics, etc.
We need something really, really simple; something the vast majority of Americans can hear ONE time and go, "yeah, I agree with that."
Micheal mentioned them. Here are the two points I suggest:
1) Prosecute the bailout banksters, (name names).
2) Eliminate Corporate Campaign contributions

That's a beginning, nothing more. It gets the negotiation started.

Remember: such demands will not be met until there's a revolution. They merely serve as a mechanism of negotiation.
 
 
+12 # mwd870 2011-11-23 06:47
I'm not sure the list is too long because it is inclusive. This does not mean the general population needs to understand and opt in to every proposal right now. Your two main suggestions for action are the same as mine. A majority of Americans already agree the banksters should be prosecuted and corporate contributions/ lobbyists who bribe politicians must be eliminated. So these measures have a better chance for success in the short-term. (In fairness, this should apply to Unions as well. I support Unions, but not necessarily the leadership with large salaries who use Union money to influence elections).

Others may choose to negotiate/ advocate for other Movement proposals.
 
 
+5 # andreyo 2011-11-23 11:51
In my view, the understanding of the general population is the whole purpose of a list of demands, right now. There's plenty of time for the movement to debate the whole list of demands. But right now, the OCCUPY movement needs to reach out to the wider population... the masses who are generally sympathetic but are NOT going to get involved until they can see we're capable of agreeing on SOMETHING. That's why I say, simplify, simplify, simplify, or the masses will continue standing on the sidelines.
 
 
0 # ejf3 2011-11-25 11:14
I agree that we are at the verge of a well-needed peaceful revolution (hopefully), but I'd hate to see such a once-in-several -generations opportunity (last serious one was in the 1860s) be wasted on a couple sub-points. If we the people could actually build up enough momentum to make a difference, I suggest it get spent at a level that will make essential broad change that will form a new basis for our government. Mickael's suggestions are simply bandages for a system that only values materialism, consumerism and money. We need essential change. We need new values. And to acheive that, we need to affect change as fare upstream as possible. That means constitutional ammendments.
 
 
0 # ejf3 2011-11-25 11:18
All the nuanced greivnances on everyones lists would take years to acheive. And we should achieve many of them. But first we must have a constitutional basis to support new laws. Let's get the new foundation laid with the 99% momentum and then use that basis over the next several years to work out the details (stuff on the big list) in many new laws and limits on government and its processes.
 
 
+51 # Cactusman 2011-11-22 20:56
All of the ideas are good. I love them all.

Frankly, for a democracy to work, it needs to have some layers like this. It's not overly-complex, nor overly-simple to start. It needs to be embraceable by most people and hard to argue with by opponents who for whatever reason refuse to join it at first. It needs to be modifiable as well when necessary.

A great starting list, to be sure!
 
 
+17 # WLawpsh 2011-11-22 21:44
All of the items on Michael's wish list and many more equally good ideas are subsumed by the Constitution's declaration of its intent in its Preamble, i.e., to establish Justice, Tranquility, defence, Welfare and Liberty. That's why the Constitution's commerce, defence and treaty clauses withheld from the government of the United States the imperialist jurisdiction to encroach upon the territorial sovereignty of "foreign Nations and Indian tribes." The federal imperial statutes the Appropriations Act of 1871 and the War Measures Act of 1973 unconstitutiona lly reversed the constitutional policy first as to the Indian tribes and more recently as to foreign Nations too. The legal remedy provided by the Constitution for apprehending the imperialist crimes-in-progr ess of wars and genocides for commercial advantage is the complaint to the Supreme Court of genocide-in-pro gress by the Mahican and Mi'kmaq Tribes under the Constitution's original jurisdiction clause that the Clerk and presumably the Chief Justice of the United States are refusing to permit the Justices to adjudicate. There is no need for Occupy Wall Street to reinvent the wheel here by trying to re-draft a better Constitution. That is never going to happen, anyway. Why can't OWS just publicize and shame the Supreme Court into doing its constitutional duty? Please read the Tribes' "Might Is Not Right" website! Help!!!
 
 
+21 # peggym 2011-11-22 21:50
Yes!! I agree with the entire list.
 
 
+19 # bluebluesdancer 2011-11-22 22:01
Read the book "Web of Debt". You don't have to have a 'barter system', just a debt-free system. Back in the Middle Ages they used it, and for a period of time England had great wealth and the workers had leisure-time. All those 'pilgrimages' were because the common man actually had time to go. It took approx 14 weeks of work for a man to support his family for a year! In US, Lincoln had a debt-free system during the Civil War. He created 'Greenbacks' a currency actually made by the US instead of the bankers. It was the only war where we ended-up with no debt at the end of it. He was trying to make it permanent when he was assassinated.
We MUST get away from the system that we all use now. The "Fed" is nothing to do with the Federal Govt. it is just a private company that charges interest for the priviledge of creating US money from 'nothing' (i.e. on a computer). The IMF is the same, and the B of E is based on the same debt-system. Read the damn book!!
 
 
+39 # florencew 2011-11-22 22:02
THIS is the America my grandparents believed in. THIS is the America my father died to defend in World War II. THANK GOD there is someone who can articulate our goals and aspirations. MAY IT COME TO PASS. Amen.
 
 
+26 # Max Marin 2011-11-22 22:09
Thank you Michael Moore for stating succinctly some of the best starting places for the Occupy Movement. My two cents worth: ban the use, manufacture or sale of depleted uranium weapons world-wide.
 
 
+23 # Tom Atlee 2011-11-22 22:11
Personally, I love your list, Michael. But I cannot support it as THE agenda for Occupy.

The drive to unify around ANY set of demands will split the movement along fault lines of people's disagreements about those demands.

The unity we need is the agreement that citizens can shape our nation and our future. The innovations we need are innovations that help citizens who share policy goals to act powerfully together to achieve those goals.

It is not the job of Occupy to tell citizens what they should advocate together.

It is the job of Occupy to push the national conversation and expand citizens' capacity to take effective action on WHATEVER they are passionate about.

We must not forget that the 99% is not homogenous. It is diverse. We must must must honor and empower that diversity - in practice - or it will tear apart our efforts to generate unity.
 
 
+15 # CL38 2011-11-22 23:17
I don't see the list as "telling citizens what they should advocate together". Rather I see it as the beginning of documenting some of the most pressing issues that are holding us back now. I see it as a living document that evolves as our needs change, to which we can always add, modify and delete in an egalitarian, inclusive way.
 
 
+9 # CL38 2011-11-22 23:37
Michael and OWS,

You've done a wonderful job of beginning to name the country's -- and our -- most pressing concerns and needs.

We need a constitutional amendment for women's full equality that addresses the many forms of discrimination women and their families still face in employment, pay equity, reproductive rights, and the enormous disparity in both costs and benefits for women for insurance, pensions and social security.

Nearly 75% of the nation's 4 million elderly poor are women. Older women have just over half the income of older men, and women of color have significantly less income than older white women. The disproportionat e poverty of older women is created by a lifetime of low wages intensified by sex discrimination in pensions, retirement insurance, and social security.
 
 
+6 # mwd870 2011-11-23 04:59
Your comment is insightful in clarifying potential issues with the Occupy Movement. I personally agree with the "vision statement" and list of proposals. Defining the ideals of the movement and proposing solutions is the necessary next step for OWS.

Occupy is already pushing the national conversation and beginning to expand citizens' capacity to take action. If any of the proposals can be advocated by the majority of the 99% and effectively enacted, this will be the beginning of success.
 
 
0 # DrChiMED 2011-11-27 22:02
Dear Tom Atlee,

I think you hold excellent standards of consideration. Your consideration of the fact that the 99% is not homogenous but is diverse is an excellent point to make!

The way that we must honor and empower that diversity, in practice, is by funneling this energy from the Occupy Demonstrations into an organization that has the ability to create a "unity in diversity" of the 99%.

Our needs are to establish true democracy on a global level. This level of organization already exists in the World Constitution. This is a level of organization that would be achieved through the establishment of a World Parliament that would greatly expand our earthly citizens' capacity to take effective action on WHATEVER they are passionate about through a true democracy in the World Parliament.

We the people of the world could organize this agenda for Occupy as a movement & call for ratification of the World Constitution by the 99% to establish a global social democracy for the betterment of all mankind.
 
 
+11 # Eagleman 2011-11-22 22:35
As always, Michael, you are thinking and expressing comprehensively and clearly. I don't abide the "it's too long" mentality. As the I Ching counsels, the beginning is important.
 
 
0 # andreyo 2011-11-23 19:46
As one of the "it's too long" mentality, I would encourage you to look at the length of the suggestions posted here in response. This is exactly what few people seem to understand these days: everybody wants to talk, we've all got ideas; but we need to get it into our heads to talk less, clear space, get ourselves on the same basic page, so we can ACT.
As a student of the I Ching, I agree that the beginning is important. My point is that this is a beginning to more talk, which just keeps repeating itself.
Or, perhaps we could have two lists: a comprehensive one; and a list of one or two demands on which to act.
 
 
+18 # Riley1 2011-11-22 22:40
What do i want for Christmas?
My letter to Santa.

Dear Santa, Please bring Michael's proposals to fruition.To save the country i love.

Do you think it will happen?

I live in hope..
 
 
+15 # Bill Smirnow 2011-11-22 23:24
All large banks need to be broken up permenantly. Besides Glass-Steagal, The Commodities Future Trading Act Must Be Reinstated. The Commodities Future Modernization Act Must Be Repealed. There Must be a Manhattan Project For Renewable Energy and the necessary ddefensive acts to protect the public and other species as it's already too late to prevent massive environmental damage due to climate change, see: http://www.heatisonline.org Abolish all nuclear power plants and all nuclear weapons. Aboloish poverty and institute a law or laws that will allow an individual or economically connected group of people from owning more than a certain amount of $$, liquid and otherwise. Cut the military budget by at least 75% and institute a true national defense in the form of environmental, educational, health, housing, infrastructure, public parks and beaches programs that will be there to benefit all. Before nuclear weapons are abolished have them all de-alerted so that an accidental nuclear war cannot happen as has almost happened several times.
 
 
+16 # Morgaine 2011-11-23 00:02
I agree with everything Michael has proposed, but I think there needs to be on important addition. Include the ERA : Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.
 
 
+1 # Rebelmamma 2011-11-23 00:06
I love it Michael! All very important stuff. I would like to add that the real changes that need to be made with regard to distribution of wealth must include the following:

All company profits/losses shared EQUALLY among it's workers -all of them.

All un-occupied housing used to house the homeless.

Prisons changed into hospitals where criminals are treated as patients who are ill or addicted, and drug offenders are treated and released.

All drugs legalized.

Like Denmark, (which boasts the highest human development index in the world) we need a floor on how poor we let folks get and a ceiling on how rich we let them get.

Citizens use consensus to decide local issues where everyone votes online and cut out the politician/middleman.

Dissolve the federal government and Federal Reserve. Give power back to individuals who can come together in Bioregional Affiliations based on sustainable practices for preserving, trading in and renewing native flora and fauna.

Thank you for all you do Michael.
 
 
+6 # jimking 2011-11-23 00:08
The "vision Statement" when realized will get us back all the rights and privileges we had at one time. Our rights and privileges were given up, co-opted, privatized, or stolen, over decades, while "we the people" sat idol. When we reclaim our rights we must Wage Democracy everyday or history will repeat...
 
 
-2 # Scott Griffith 2011-11-23 02:16
Tom Atlee's right, Michael. Your list is superb but it's not the place of OWS to advocate specifics. That's the place of what he calls citizens. OWS can let them, and everyone, know whether they're doing a good job.
 
 
+9 # backbonebill 2011-11-23 02:49
I think that an important, just and movement expanding addition is to call for Automatic Principal Reduction for Underwater Mortgages to Actual Value. 28.9% of American mortgages are "underwater". It would stablize housing prices by stopping the flood of foreclosed homes onto the market. It would keep people in their homes and relieve a huge psychological and economic burden on millions of people and free up money to be spent in the economy. Banks can't sell foreclosed homes for more than they are worth,so why put the people through this hell?

AND - WARNING analysts from Morgan Stanley were recently quoted as saying the "Rentership society is upon us". Wall street is actually trying to get the Federal Housing Finance Administration to let Freddie Mac and Mannie Mae sell them their foreclosed properties and make Wall Street the new landlords. AND they are asking for additional tax incentives in order to rob us of our most important tool for building equity and wealth!

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac hold more than 50% of American Mortgages - whatever they do, others will likely follow - AND they are semi-public entities and accountable to US citizens who bailed them out.

It's time to Bail Out America - NOT Sell out America. PLEASE ADD Automatic Principal Reduction for Underwater Homes to the list of demands.

Forward together!
 
 
+14 # bking 2011-11-23 03:13
Corporations are not job creators!
The people are.
They create jobs by their demand for goods and services.
Corporations are attracted to that demand like moths to a flame, not out of altruism or benevolence, but for profit.
As the peoples' representative government should be in the business of protecting our core values not creating "business friendly" environments; that is corruptions.
Businesses must operate within the confines of our values.
Those that can, survived.
Those that cannot, die and are replaced by those that can.
The notion that corporations are job creators is a scam to secure our deference to them as putative masters of the universe.

Bill
 
 
+9 # animas 2011-11-23 03:54
Nice start...I would like to see the corporations, like exxon and others, be footed the bill for cleaning up much of the environment... they've lobbied hard to cast doubt on any science that would curtail their/our slaughter of the planet.

AND, that we make reparations to the other beings that we share this planet with, who we are wiping out at an unprecedented rate. We owe it to them.. they are our brothers and sisters too.
 
 
+9 # tapelt 2011-11-23 04:09
Change #5 to read:

5. Investigate the Crash of 2008, bring to justice those who committed any crimes, and enact appropriate legislation to ensure that it never happens again.

This should be our top demand, the one we can all agree on. Can you imagine anyone saying the crash was a good thing? That it should not be investigated? That those who have committed crimes should not be prosecuted (provided there is sufficient evidence and due process)?

Some of the other demands may not be received well by others in the 99%, even if you are totally right. Let's not push hard for something that will tear us apart. Let's speak with a voice that is as unified as possible.
 
 
+8 # cracker 2011-11-23 04:41
Suggestion- Require the some % of goods sold in America be created in America, or taxed accordingly.
I don't care if this constitutes totally free trade or not. We must make decisions that preserve American jobs and improve the standard of living at home first.
 
 
+9 # walt 2011-11-23 04:49
Wonderful!

We want the government and country to represent the people and not the money powers!

What an inspiring idea!

Now if we could end our insane military occupations, we might be able to do even better.
 
 
+11 # Dale 2011-11-23 05:06
Add to the list the nationalization of banks, regulation will not work the financial oligarchy can always find a way around it. Banks and investment agencies must serve public purposes of economic and social development, just as education and health care must serve the general good.
 
 
+1 # pwortman 2011-11-23 05:30
I would add to the list the following crucial economic and political reforms missing from Moore's excellent list:

Use the money from #1,2, and 6 to pay-off ALL mortgages in default due to corporate culpability in the housing meltdown and to refinance ALL student loan at the lowest current rate OR have them totally forgiven forgiven for four years of public service.

Reinstate a mandatory universal draft. The all-volunteer army has given Presidents and the military freedom to wage a series of useless, expensive wars. We, the people, have to assume responsibility and this is the way to do it.
 
 
+5 # danpottervia 2011-11-23 05:39
Thanks, Michael
for a good clear voicing
of our desires, demands
and current search
for ways and means
with love
d
 
 
+9 # angryspittle 2011-11-23 05:51
How about treating ALL income the same for tax purposes? No more lesser capital gains taxes for trust fund slackers than for the plumber or teacher.
 
 
+6 # turtleislander 2011-11-23 05:53
I agree with your list Michael! Thank you for using your megaphone to shouto ut the things many of us cant shout louder than huge money and power.

I would add one point. Number 11.

The United States of America formally and publicly apologizes for every wrong and horror perpetrated upon the original inhabitants of this continent, and set aside a new kind of Thanksgiving or Columbus day to honor those who died in the seizing of the richest lands on earth. Further, we, present day Americans, try to make amends for the crime by stewardship of the continent to be the envy of the world. That is the highest respect for nature and our environment.
 
 
+5 # tswhiskers 2011-11-23 06:01
Michael, I think these are are fine ideas. Each of these 10 items is important to maintaining the equality of all Americans. The only down side I see to this is the same one that occurred to the Founding Fathers: namely that we need an informed and participatory electorate for these ideas to work. A Constitutional amendment containing some of these concepts would also be a good idea. Right now the American public is strongly engaged in politics because there is so much difference between the parties and because more and more people are realizing what desperate straits the country is in both politically and economically. It took a very long time and a lot of political damage to awaken Americans to these realities.
 
 
-47 # Martintfre 2011-11-23 06:17
Michael Moore.

A capitalist fat cat getting rich off of stupid communist who buy his stuff - gotta love that free market.
 
 
+11 # feloneouscat 2011-11-23 07:31
Quoting Martintfre:
A capitalist fat cat getting rich off of stupid communist who buy his stuff - gotta love that free market.


What "stuff" am I buying? I must have missed that part...
 
 
+7 # Bruce Gruber 2011-11-23 08:10
Maybe he means you watched some movies Michael produced and directed ...
 
 
+8 # Bruce Gruber 2011-11-23 08:08
A continuing litany of Foxspeak name calling and angry, misdirected frustration. It's a real shame that all that energy and concern seem directed at maintaining and justifying a system which EVEN YOU, Martinfre, seem to admit isn't working too well. Do you identify yourself as within the 1% or the 99%?
 
 
+5 # reiverpacific 2011-11-23 08:46
Quoting Martintfre:
Michael Moore.

A capitalist fat cat getting rich off of stupid communist who buy his stuff - gotta love that free market.

Got any shining alternatives instead of y'r usual spiteful, fantasy-based crap? C'mon facts for a change or shut the Hell up! (I'd love to meet you in a pub sometime).
 
 
-19 # Martintfre 2011-11-23 12:38
//or shut the Hell up! (I'd love to meet you in a pub sometime).//

Why - would you beat me up?

Is that your intellectual prowess?

Michael Moore has made millions selling various films, Fahrenheit 9/11 - last I read he was in additional law suit to get another $29 million for that, Bowling for Combine,Capital ism a love Story, Sicko, Stupid White men and others - and that is fine with me.
That is how freedom and a free market work. People choose to buy or rent his movies and he gets rich - and other people like me ignore him and do other things.


The irony of getting rich by pitching collectivism and anti-individual anti-freedom anti-capitalism to communist who are ignorant of economics is amusing.
 
 
+4 # dorianb@fuse.net 2011-11-23 21:09
Martinfre: I am sorry you feel like you do. Your heart is narrow. Your spirit is mean, and your "intellectual prowess" is over-inflated in your tiny, little mind.
 
 
+5 # Bruce Gruber 2011-11-24 04:56
It may well be true that a significant number of people have viewed Moore's documentary expose' films. Some may even have purchased them. He has made, as he admits, lots of money from that success. It's a real example of the individual, free expression of American capitalism you seem to feel is under attack from him. Moore's success does NOT suggest he opposes the concept. However, that success does demonstrate a significant amount of support for his interpretive views among your fellow citizens.
He does not 'pitch' some 'collectivist' committee determining what is an appropriate use of his profits. Michael freely and individually has determined how he wants to invest his largess - apparently in support of universal education, health care and citizen participation. While you may interpret those egalitarian goals as communist or socialist, they are also Christ-ish, Muhammed-ish and Buddha-ish.
If Michael Moore has invested his efforts to expose what he feels is the hypocrisy of capitalism's justification of job-shifting to slave labor resources OR environmental destruction requiring public cleanups, OR nuclear power constructs with citizen responsibility to solve and pay for waste disposal, so be it. His freedom to express his opinion may offend what you believe is freedom and the American Way, but it is his right.
 
 
+1 # reiverpacific 2011-11-24 08:24
Quoting Martintfre:
//or shut the Hell up! (I'd love to meet you in a pub sometime).//

Why - would you beat me up?

Is that your intellectual prowess?
The irony of getting rich by pitching collectivism and anti-individual anti-freedom anti-capitalism to communist who are ignorant of economics is amusing.


No I wouldn't beat you up; I'm gettin' too old for that stuff and I hope, a bit more sane with it.
And don't even get me stared on intellectual prowess; yours appears to be atrophied and blinkered -and that's puttin' it nicely as I can manage in print.
A good pub is a fine, relaxed, neutral ground for a healthy debate for those of us who don't have public platforms. I find that people like you often turn tail if asked or challenged to engage me in a fact-based discussion face-to-face in public after making snide or spiteful remarks from the shadows without making any constructive alternatives, or "declaimers" rather than debaters -and you seem to fit that profile nicely from your classic reactionary babble!
So, Moore -having been poor- made money HONORABLY, helps GOOD causes with it as an open, truly altruistic philanthropist -and had to hire a navy seal security squad after release of F- 9-11 as COWARDS of many stripes were TRULY challenged by it; sound familiar??? Can't stand that can you?
 
 
+7 # noitall 2011-11-23 15:58
Quoting Martintfre:
Michael Moore.

"A capitalist fat cat getting rich off of stupid communist who buy his stuff - gotta love that free market.
"
We can always depend on this duck to come up with some air-headed cliche. Thanks again Martintfre. I think its capitalists that have been buying a bill of goods. You old teabagger you.
 
 
+8 # jon 2011-11-23 17:16
It is nice to see someone making money from STANDING UP for the common man, rather than enslaving him.

Martintfre, do you have something against the common man?
 
 
+3 # dorianb@fuse.net 2011-11-23 21:03
Martinfre:
Real human beings care about other human beings and have empathy for those in need and believe in equality for men and women and all races and religions. Because a person is a humanitarian does not mean he or she is a communist or a member or advocate of any particular party or political idealogy. It simply means that person is an authentic human being in the highest sense of the word.
 
 
+14 # Travlinlight 2011-11-23 06:40
Greetings and peace to you, Michael. Ever since the age of 11, when I had an experience of transpersonal consciousness, I have known that all the benevolent and democratic impulses human beings are capable of come out of some sense of wholeness and connectedness to all living things and all people. I am not an advocate for any form of religion or even spiritual practice; people have to make up their own minds about choosing a path toward enlighenment.

What I see in all your ideas and proposals is an unspoken, implicit sense of what human beings may be moving toward: a general enlightenment of the race that enables a transpersonal sense of identity. I am no pollyanna, Mike; I know that what I'm talking about is a long time distant, if it happens at all.
However, a society that embraces the kind of ideas and principles you're discussing would create a social environment that would begin to enable such an enlightenment. We have to begin somewhere, and you and the Occupy folks seem to have the right sense of where and how to begin. May it happen, in peace, in justice and in compassion.
 
 
+1 # dorianb@fuse.net 2011-11-23 21:23
Why do you call yourself "Lone Wolf" when you understand so well that we are all interconnected and have a mission to make the world a kinder, safer and more humane place for all it's inhabitants.
We are moving toward a state of general enlightenment. It often does not seem that way because some are moving so much slower than others who have an innate sense that spirituality and compassion is more important than material goods and real power comes from internal empowerment, evolving as a person and transpersonal consciousness.
 
 
+1 # Travlinlight 2011-11-24 06:42
Hi, dorianb,

You're right; "Lone Wolf" is something of a misnomer. I picked that as a user name because I am a published writer--mosty poetry some cultural analysys--and writing tends to be a lonely craft. I have thought better of it since I chose that name. I would like to be known as "Travlin' Light," since that is part of the book title of my published volume of verse. However, I can't find a way to change my user name on this site. If you know how to do it,let me know.
 
 
+20 # fredboy 2011-11-23 06:41
Excellent list of concepts. I add "Make it a criminal felony to in any way deny any registered voter his or her right to vote." IN 2000 Florida deceptively challenged the vote of more than 90,000 qualified voters, mainly black, and not one soul was punished. This makes the act of voting and our election system a nullified process, awarding corruption and related criminal acts. If the vote and elections are not pure, the system, indeed the nation, dies. Without trust, there is mayhem.
 
 
+6 # LessSaid 2011-11-23 06:52
'Michael Moore.

A capitalist fat cat getting rich off of stupid communist who buy his stuff - gotta love that free market.'

---------------------------------------

Okay, but after the name calling, what is it that you agree or disagree with.

Also we don't have a free market, the 1% have made sure of that.
 
 
+5 # lk138 2011-11-23 07:16
The list looks great to me. Perhaps more on environmental issues like The government will support energy that does not rely on oil, coal, nuclear energy and gas. It will seek the development of forms of energy without a toxic side effect.
 
 
+6 # EKVT 2011-11-23 07:32
It is vitally important to have one broad, inclusive idea that anyone in the 99% can adopt. From there, we can construct the specific building blocks to build a society that serves and nurtures human beings.
The prerequisite to accomplishing any of the demands is this:
Get corporate influence (esp.money) out of electoral politics. Put more simply: One person, one vote.
Corporations need not apply.
Obviously, what Michael Moore has written is a proposal, not a final draft. It gives the movement something substantial to work with as we move from bringing attention to the injustice to crafting a just world.
 
 
+4 # JoanWile2 2011-11-23 07:35
MICHAEL, YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD/I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH EACH WORD YOU SAID/THIS IS THE WAY FOR THE COUNTRY TO STEER/FROM YOUR WORD PROCESSOR TO GOD'S (OR WHATEVER'S) EAR!
 
 
+4 # pernsey 2011-11-23 07:44
Oh and one more thing, that loop holes must be plugged. You know as well as I that Corporations can hire scads of lawyers to work around any thing that is a regulation put on them. As soon as a loophole rears its ugly head it gets voted on and plugged. So corporations can no longer cheat their way out of paying taxes, or get out of anything that they are responsible for.
 
 
+1 # hsalzberg9 2011-11-23 08:00
MICHAEL,
DON'T FORGET THE GOAL OF ESTABLISHING UNIVERSAL SINGLE PAYER HEALTH-CARE. HOW COULD U FORGET?!
 
 
+5 # JoanWile2 2011-11-23 08:31
Quoting hsalzberg9:
MICHAEL,
DON'T FORGET THE GOAL OF ESTABLISHING UNIVERSAL SINGLE PAYER HEALTH-CARE. HOW COULD U FORGET?!


But he didn't forget! Note his 7th proposition:

7. Join the rest of the free world and create a single-payer, free and universal health care system that covers all Americans all of the time.
 
 
+2 # dorianb@fuse.net 2011-11-23 21:25
Tell Obama about this!
 
 
+1 # simonemwood 2011-11-23 09:40
#hsalzberg9
Ref: Michaels point #7
 
 
+1 # boudreaux 2011-11-23 11:33
Quoting hsalzberg9:
MICHAEL,
DON'T FORGET THE GOAL OF ESTABLISHING UNIVERSAL SINGLE PAYER HEALTH-CARE. HOW COULD U FORGET?!



Hey didn't you read it all, thats in there...next time read it all before you accuse him...
 
 
+6 # Bruce Gruber 2011-11-23 08:04
Consider incorporating into your proposed political Constitutional Amendment the FDR brain trust suggestion that Presidents may serve only one (1) six year term. The change would erase the effect of money on reelections, and reduce the divisive and personal nature of politicking. Additionally, it might give an administration enough time to organize, propose and demonstrate the effectiveness of policy changes. I feel that appointed and elected public servants should be considered 'volunteer' patriots serving their fellow citizens. No 'special' benefits (retirement accounts, medical care, etc.) should be entertained. Participation in Medicare, Social Security and other governmental programs would insure that our representatives have a stake in the outcome of their decisions. Congress should NOT have the right to increase compensation for themselves.
 
 
+5 # KDI 2011-11-23 08:07
Michael, You propose negotiating with the government which is owned and operated by the zombie banks. How far are you going to get negotiating with sock-puppets? Wouldn't you prefer to confront the puppeteers? That's what is great about OWS. They're going straight to these zombie banks. Not congress, not the supreme court and certainly not the president. The zombie banks don't like it that OWS is not drinking their kool-aid that .gov is at fault here. It isn't. Talk to Brian Wilson about negotiating with the government. He lost his legs trying to get .gov to do the right thing when .gov ordered a train carrying munitions to central and south american dictators to use on civilians to speed up rather than slow down when he and other protesters tried to stop it. This government fears the bankster syndicate that owns them. Not us. That's why negotiating with government will not work.
 
 
+5 # tenayaca 2011-11-23 08:07
Michael, terrific ideas. Don't forget the long-term, however. The real change will take place if and when ALL campaigns are financed by each governmental unit which has a candidate running for office. Even limit how much each candidate can spend on his own election, like, perhaps no more than the salary of the office or a few cents for each registered voter. Think about the last one: even Republicans would support voter registration!!
 
 
0 # KDI 2011-11-23 08:09
BTW. I forgot to add that your list is great. But, it reminds me of the carrot on the stick scenario. As you may recall, in that scenario the donkey never gets the carrot.
 
 
+2 # stannh 2011-11-23 08:20
Your list is my list. But one more big item! No corporation should be alliwed to become TOO BIG TO FAIL.
When corporations are small there is some economy of scale. But the only benefits of being huge are the gauranteed bailout, and being able to change our laws to suit the corporation.
S
 
 
+4 # ejf3 2011-11-23 08:24
The list could go on forever trying to incorporate everyone's grievances. That's like chopping off many bits of the snake's tail. But if you don't chop off the head, the tail will grow back. The essential problem is that we've allowed our government to give greater voice and more power to those with great wealth. That’s not democracy. If we want our democracy back, we cannot defocus on the many systemic transgressions. Instead, we must chop off the head of the snake. Otherwise, the perverted tail will eventually grow back. So what’s the head? It's the point in our system from which all laws flow... our constitution. Only a constitutional amendment or two can reestablish proper ground rules that level the playing field—prohibiti ng those with great wealth from having powerful access to a consequently corrupt body of lawmakers: who because of the current imbalance cannot be counted upon nor trusted to fix the problem from within. This must be a massive movement of the 99% that forces grass-root constitutional change upon the government-- one which they must honor or risk revealing to the world their illegitimacy and consequently making it clear what a fascist state this government has become. Only a massive grass-root movement has the potential to force constitutional change on this bought-and-paid -for government of ours. The Occupy movement has the potential to be that power.
 
 
+4 # heiderose1 2011-11-23 08:29
Re#9: Modern Germany's codetermination legislation that gave workers a decisive voice in the companies they worked in came into being partly because of the US-sponsored Marshall Plan. The Worker Councils that were abolished by the Nazis were re-established under the Allied Control Council (US, UK, USSR, France) during the reconstruction of Germany to aid the de-nazification process. And the US supported the Coal and Steel Codetermination Act of 1951 (the daddy of all later codetermination laws) because many of these companies had openly supported the Nazis. Codetermination was believed to insure against any recurrance of facism. So, Germany thanks you for your support in this, America. For more information, see this into to Codetermination : http://www.boeckler.de/pdf/p_arbp_033.pdf
 
 
+2 # 3402 2011-11-23 08:57
I'm surprised to not find a plan to engage in the Presidential and local elections. I humbly recommentd the OCCUPY local movements elect an independant Presidential and Vice Presidential candidate. I imagine these coulkd then present their candidacy and personal qualifications on the 'net, perhaps on YouTube, and viewers could vote on YouTube for the canadidate of choice: the winnner of the most YouTube votes would then work with local Occupy support to get on the ballots of states.
 
 
+1 # dorianb@fuse.net 2011-11-23 21:31
You hit the nail on the head. I don't know if OWS should do this but it's time the citizenry decided such things. At this time elections for POTUS are all about and dependent upon BIG MONEY which has to be stopped. It promotes lobbyists, bribes, owed favors and most of all INAUTHENTIC candidates who will promise anything to get the big money and promise something else to get elected and the billions spent on elections is shameful when people are in need. It promotes sophistry and rhetoric.
 
 
+10 # LessSaid 2011-11-23 09:18
I wish I had written the following, but I didn't:

-----------------------------------

Yes, there always going to be rich and poor. But we used to live in country where rich owned factory and make 30 times what factory worker make. Now we live in country where rich make money by lying about value of derivative bonds and make 3000 times what factory worker would make if factories hadn’t all moved to China.

It not about rich people having more money. It about how they got money. It about how they take opportunity away from rest of us, for sake of having more money. It how they willing to take risks that destroy economy — knowing full well what could and would happen — putting millions out of work, while creating nothing of value, and all the while crowing that they John Galt, creating wealth for everyone.

"Cookie Monster"
 
 
+7 # sandylillie 2011-11-23 09:24
Michael Moore, you are a national treasure. Thanks for some great ideas I've never even heard before. I love your whole list. And I am so grateful to have you among us in this struggle.
 
 
0 # albert shanker 2011-11-24 09:41
PLEASE LOOK at GLASS SEAGALL act(no 4). REPEALED in 1999 by WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON!!!!! The biggest criminal in the modern era
 
 
+3 # giraffee2012 2011-11-23 09:38
Michael, your list is great.

How about we prioritize it and go after "the American Democratic List" a few demands at a time.

Too much usually results in chaos and inactivity for many reasons.

I vote for #1 repeal the Supremes' "person hood" for Corporations to BUY our elections. That decision does not comport with "my" U.S. constitution in any way, shape, or etc.

Go Wisconsin, OWS and NEVER vote Republican. I believe those who sign with Guber Norquist belong to some sort of cult whose aim is to move the $$ to the top 1%

Register early, get mail in ballots and help minorities, etc to do the same. The GOP are rigging our elections against our privilege to vote as Democrats
 
 
-2 # simonemwood 2011-11-23 09:38
Bravo Michael,

The movement needs desperately to come together with a specific mission statement and goals. The question is, How can this best be achieved by vote of all supporters?

Despite what many say we do need a singularly recognized OWS website (be that OccupyWallStree t.org or not) where voting can take place on line. Where mass rallies can be organised with marches on Washington etc. Someone needs to set this up. (maybe Dr. Shelksohn will offer up OWS.com ?)
I vote for you Michael to offer to set this up and bring ALL together.
 
 
+5 # tohora 2011-11-23 09:42
Michael Moore / OWS... come to Nantucket Island, MA. Great place to holiday. 56 billionaires (last count), on island during the summer. B. Madoff, R. Scafe (Mellon banking, oil, and aluminum fortune), D. Kozlowsky, etc... You know the type. Yep, some of them are already in jail. Those culprits who blew their Gatsby cover too overtly. Rocked the yacht -- so to speak. But, most aren't. Most are enjoying the pleasures you attempt to confront with your list. Just being themselves. Riding their private jets (busiest airport in MA. during periods of the summer), to this social enclave.

One little island, so many big players. They drink, relax, spend their spare change on $10+ million dollar homes they spend a summer week in. Getting away from it all... the stress of being so rich and so powerful. What fun to have a Mr. Moore show pop over. Say "hello," and shed some light on the life style of the .01%.

Just a thought...
 
 
+6 # scudder626 2011-11-23 10:04
We don’t need to rewrite the constitution, we need to vote and hold our legislators accountable to their voting records. If you think they are beholden to the corporate dollar, then organize, offer serious potential alternative candidates and vote the sitting office holders out. Of all the interests that legislators hold dear, I have to believe getting re-elected in #1.

Ultimately, two things need to happen. We need to vote, Not just for the guy or gal whose sound bites sound good at the moment – but whose track record is consistent with the ideals we would like to see come to fruition. 30% voter turnout is indicative that most folks are indifferent or feel they have no say. How many Occupiers voted in the last election? How many occupiers are registered to vote?

And even more important, we need to vote with our wallets, do you know when you go shopping whether you are buying a Koch product? Do you buy gas from the closest or cheapest station without consideration as to what that company has done to the environment? We have tremendous power is a buying power. If your dollars were channeled into companies that supported the causes you believed in how would that impact the discussion?
 
 
+3 # jwb110 2011-11-23 10:32
Imposing leadership on OWS and a wish list is not the answer. Don't give the opposition a "single" target.
The genius of OWS is its horizontal hierarchy. That is what a real Democratic-Repu blic looks like. If a problem arises someone steps forward, assists in the solution and then steps back. The original system of the Founding Fathers was, representatives came to Washington with questions and seeking answers. When the round was finished and solutions were reached the House and Senate went home and went back to WORK to bring in their crops or mill their cotton or whatever actual WORK that they did for a living. The recess for the Federal Legislature provided no public trough from which to feed.
That is where we need to be again. The list of demands already exist and is called the Declaration of Independence and the answer to the declaration is the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Stopping asking for your America back! It's yours! Just take it. Demand that those who do not protect and defend the Constitution of the US and The BIll of RIghts be held accountable. Simple stuff really.
Lets not play out this OWS on a battleground of our enemies making. We the People can bring them down in ways that are legal and Constitutionall y guaranteed.
When they General Strike and the Tax Payers Strike happens, we will win the day.
 
 
+1 # bobby t. 2011-11-23 11:07
Mike,
You write of a sane society. We are, at present, an insane society, one based on a very old human impulse, that of hoarding food for the winter. That is the origin of greed. Ninety thousand years ago, when we came out of Africa, it made sense. It does not now. Now our motto is to lie, cheat and steal until you get caught. One reads about this every day, without fail, in our daily newspaper. When it comes to survival, all bets are off.
I can offer, on top of a free education, the right of all men to learn how to read. And the sacred obligation to help children learn how to read by using the instant sight words from the fry word list. All fifth graders must know these words. If not, they must not advance but instead go to a special school where all you learn are these words. only six hundred words and you are literate. I did it with 25 out of 25 students who were in the fourth grade, and on free lunch.
Also, along with single payer, single buyer of drugs and single seller of medicines other than over the counter products. Drug stores, not drug companies, are the ones that fix prices in this country. They are an enemy of the state.
 
 
+2 # panamericans 2011-11-23 11:36
10 Principals it is!

What a Country of awe if this could come to be?

Now let' find a Presidential Candidate (other than Obama)who will not compromise these principals...
 
 
+5 # Tom Atlee 2011-11-23 11:57
I view the further comments as evidence of my earlier statement. By specifying what Occupy should focus on, Michael has drawn out the dozens (soon to be hundreds and thousands) of people who want Occupy to focus its power on THEIR issue or proposal which may not be included in Michael's list.

What if instead of picking a specific list of demands, OWS created forums where people who have favorite demands (which I call "policy options") can find people who agree with them, and help them build alliances with others who have similar agendas and generate grassroots lobbying power. In other words, democratic forms that empower citizens to take action together on what they believe in.

Pushing a specific "united" agenda will, paradoxically, divide us. Our most powerful (and sustainable) unity lies in our ability to connect up with each other around issues and solutions and visions that matter to us. Out of such a generative process, the issues, solutions, and visions we ACTUALLY most share in common will EMERGE. No one has to sort them out and nail them down into an agenda.
 
 
0 # mwd870 2011-11-24 05:10
I'm not sure I see a conflict between what you are proposing as the means of action and the OWS list of goals. It is not necessarily an agenda in the sense that everyone must accept or not be part of the Occupy Movement. (Is it?)

OWS divided into forumns to discuss and implement actions from the time they began to occupy Zuccotti Park.

People connecting up around policy options they share in common, taking action together, and generating lobbying power sounds like the way to achieve positive change in the issue(s) they believe are most important.

I think I understand your point that considering everything in the OWS agenda at once can be overwhelming. Have you expressed these ideas to Michael Moore?
 
 
-2 # bobby t. 2011-11-23 12:47
why reading? 70% of all prisoners are illiterate.
 
 
+1 # AlexGarcia 2011-11-23 12:47
Dear Mike;
Is a very good start but....

is very much just that, a "facelift" that won't last long, and won't go too far...

What We need is a Complete Regime Change...
Including the drafting of a new Constitution !!!
(e.g. ICELAND...)

Also is important to send to prison and to punish, all the Traitors, CEO's, Banksters, Mining and Oil Barons Destroying our environment, Politicians on a pay-roll of Corporate entities. and all their accomplices, etc etc, to show next leaders and elected officials, that crime won't pay...
Is simply not enough to do a "band-aid fix", on our Nation...
This is a Revolution, not a "protest" for some ten only, changes...

Obama did those same Promises around 2008 and Look were we are now...

All Congres, all Senate, All Supreme Court, Ministeries, and ill elected Public Servants, should be fired, investigated for treason and replaced by new elected by General Assembly CITIZENS Choices.
Anything less is just like an "eye-filler", and it won't do the job...
 
 
+2 # goldie62 2011-11-23 13:03
Michael: I don't get it!! The 99%declaration people have already set up a structure by which we can proceed to petition for grievances and yet no one is talking about their efforts . What did they do to piss everyone off or are you all just trying to grab the power?
 
 
+2 # rtrues54 2011-11-23 14:31
YES!!!!!!! I TOTALLY agree with ALL of them. I hope we adopt this as "OFFICIAL" VERY SOON.

P.S. We need to move Obama to the LEFT and we need to get rid of ALL Conservatives.. . no matter whether they are DEMS OR REPUGS...
 
 
+3 # trilemmaman 2011-11-23 15:04
Love these. Please add one more. A financial transaction tax on all international financial transactions... to generate funds for universal access to water, sanitation, primary health care and education, and adequate nutrition.
 
 
+3 # fishmother 2011-11-23 15:04
The preamble to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is the perfect document offering up the full spectrum of rights to which every human being on earth is entitled. Even our country, which pretends to be of the people, by the people and for the people, falls woefully short of its promise. And the Occupiers of Wall Street want to make it perfectly clear that that actual Wall Streeters in concert and collaboration with corporate executives and banks have deliberately thwarted anything that smacks of the equality of regular Americans. These Wallstreeters have a gross sense of entitlement which allows them to climb on the backs of "regular" Americans in order to make inordinate amounts of money ~ they scam, sham, cheet, obscure and run over the rights of the 99%. Greed is their motivator ~ and in the end, should the governement &/or voters come to their senses, they will reap the whirlwind. Slime usually rises to the top, thus it becomes easy to skim them from the vibrant real life of America. Some of these grabbers need to be forced to do community service, to make appropriate financial reparations, &/or others jailed, still others a combinations of the above while the rewards of their greed are used to support the neediest of Americans.
 
 
+2 # Aussieken 2011-11-23 15:21
Martinthinkshe' sfree - wake up boy or are you awake but you just like stirring the pot and playing devil's advocate?
 
 
+3 # mrgrtmorris 2011-11-23 15:41
Good agenda.

How about some actions?

Modest proposal--30 large, profitable corporations paid not taxes. How about boycotting them this xmas? Ahem, one of them was Mattel.

I'd also like more ecological goals such as protecting natural forests from "harvesting". protecting soil and water from destruction from bad ag. practices, labeling all GM organisms so that consumers have a choice and humanity's 10,000 year heritage of biodiversity is not diminished.
 
 
+4 # noitall 2011-11-23 15:52
10d, under Constitutional amendments. I'd suggest an amendment (if that is what it would take) that would enforce ethics rules on the Supreme Court or at least that they be held to the same standards as other federal court officers. It is insane that the highest court in our land is allowed to carry on like Clarence Thomas and a couple others that come to mind. His arrogance and dishonesty does not honor his important role in our system of justice nor do the decisions of the majority of the SC pay due respect to how these decisions impact the rights and lives of Americans.
 
 
+8 # Joan Manning 2011-11-23 16:49
Let's add one more amendment:

"The State has no interest in or jurisdiction over the unborn."
 
 
+6 # StPete 2011-11-23 18:00
I agree with the whole list.

Now cut it down to about 3 things we can focus on...
 
 
0 # dorianb@fuse.net 2011-11-23 21:38
You said it! Simplify. Too much for people to focus on or agree on. An agenda is needed but less is more.
 
 
-3 # cypress72 2011-11-23 19:41
11.) Full disclosure of all contributions to #OWS and a full disclosure of who is in control of this money and where has it been deposited. We have a right to know where our contributions are going and if they are being spent for the movement or to enrich some invisible faux organizers.
 
 
0 # MrBetpower 2011-11-23 21:15
Good list of demands, but I would definitely add a solution to the mortgage/forecl osure crisis. I do feel the Occupy Movement lacks focus and is squandering its political & social capital by not voicing a specific demand or demands. What are the people getting pepper-sprayed for, exactly? In the 1960s, we sat in and protested with one demand: End the War in Vietnam Now! And it was effective. So now, Michael, you'll have to get your demands approved through the consensus method of OWS, no small feat. And then how exactly would any one of your excellent demand move through senators and congresspeople who do not care one whit about what the American people want?
 
 
0 # barbaratodish 2011-11-24 00:18
Until we r free from ego&drama we r hardly living at all. Only when we r ABSOLUTElY & HUMANLY internally valid can we BEGIN to communicate from a BASE of an emotionally vulnerable self,then we'll have the consciousness 2 comprehend the difference btween life & death issues instead of mistaking life & death issues 4 QUALITY of life issues. Until we know the difference between relative quality of life issues & absolute life & death issues, instead of authentically living, we are, at best, PRACTICING to live & we r illusions instead of real. Until we r free from ego and drama,CONSTRUCT ED identities, we r closer 2 being mindless zombies instead of human beings with any agency. We need 2 know that OWNING land and property is, at best, premature b4 we own our own unique personalities, & now mostly even our personalities own us. Proof that owning land, etc., is a joke on us is that when we die we all return back to the land, either in the soil, or if we are cremated, we go up in "smoke" and return back to the ground in rain, so the reality is that the land owns us! We need 2 risk enjoying our lives by feeling that we all DESERVE pleasure, instead of being repressed & repressing others. Then instead of being angry we may all become joyful enough 2 b free from the anger that causes symbolic to actual violence, war, greed and other limitations 2 absolute cooperation and love.
 
 
0 # barbaratodish 2011-11-24 20:28
Correction: Only when we are ABSOLUTELY and HUMANLY internally valid can we even begin to authentically communicate at all, (either to just our self and/or to others) because we need an ABSOLUTE BASE an ABSOLUT HUMAN BASE instead of a limited constucted identity "base". We all need an ABSOLUTE BASE that is free from defensiveness. Only then can we BEGIN to have the consciousness to know the difference between the drama and ego involved in RELATIVE QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUSES and the TRAUMA involved in ABSOLUTE LIFE AND DEATH ISSUES! We need to RISK being and feeling that we are INTUITIVELY and INSTINCTIVELY valid and can only do this when we give ourselves enough pleasure and satisfaction from life's possibilitites (i.e., life comforts and enjoyments, basic needs must be met and meaning needs(meaning, that is BEYOND money fame power, sex, etc.,) must be at least pursued. In other words joy, instead of mere existence within the range from just relative survival to relative happiness, needs to be ones goal. If we deny ourselves the possibility of achieving absolute joy and just accept survival, etc., as the best that we can expect, we will deprive ourselves of the EXQUISITE energy that is needed to risk confronting the existential angst and anxiety of the reality of life's ambiguity.
 
 
0 # susienoodle 2011-11-24 08:42
if we can't bring back the fairness doctrine since the blogosphere makes it unmanageable, how about a liars fine? Maybe not an Occupy WS item, but we need to hold liars accountable and fining them would be a start in that direction. Haven't thought it through on how it could be implemented, but just putting it out there as one more thing we need to do to reclaim our democracy. We need facts, not lies, to inform the electorate. Of course folks like Koch bros and Limbaugh could afford to pay any fine, but at least their money would be going to a better cause than it is now.
 
 
-6 # Robt Eagle 2011-11-24 09:06
You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.

... Abraham Lincoln
 
 
+4 # reiverpacific 2011-11-24 09:33
Dear me, what a crock of misinformation!
Read on;
"These words are often attributed to Abraham Lincoln, but according to the book "THEY NEVER SAID IT: A Book of Fake Quotes, Misquotes, & Misleading Attributions", they are not from Lincoln.
The quotes were published in 1942 by William J. H. Boetcker, a Presbyterian minister. He released a pamphlet entitled "Lincoln On Limitations", which did include a Lincoln quote, but also added 10 statements (including the ones you quote so tritely) written by Boetcker himself.
You must work or be a shill for the FOX fact-benders pal!
WRONG AGAIN!
 
 
+3 # tedrey 2011-11-24 10:46
This is falsely attributed to Lincoln. According to Wikipedia:

"An outspoken political conservative, Rev. Boetcker is perhaps best remembered for his authorship of a pamphlet entitled The Ten Cannots that emphasizes freedom and responsibility of the individual on himself. Originally published in 1916, it is often misattributed to Abraham Lincoln."

Some conservatives use it because they have no interest in verifying things they want to believe. Ronald Reagan used it.
 
 
0 # albert shanker 2011-11-24 09:38
Glass-Segall act was repealed by WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON in 1999. It set the stage for the 2008 collapse, by giving free reign to the banking industry. Time to be men and hold him 100% accountable. The biggest criminal of our time. WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON.
 
 
+2 # scherzo 2011-11-24 12:13
OCCUPY

It is too late
For revolution
So rise up not simply
To justice but to radical
Clemency:

Even those
Who have impoverished
And betrayed us

Gently
Take their hands
Walk them
From their towers
From their banks

Call them
From their yachts
Their second homes

Interrupt them
As they celebrate
Hanging from diamonds

To allow a forest
Where boulevards
Had been

To allow the tears
Of strangled rage

To allow the fear
Of the powerless
Allowing a heart
Too big to fail
 
 
+1 # jthand 2011-11-24 19:44
Michael, please add to your sixth item that some of the money now going to the military should be used to help the deveoping nations.
 
 
+2 # Mirkka 2011-11-25 01:15
Kayjay and some others, stop calling those evil people rats, I am Occupy Wall Street supporter and also pet rat owner and lover. I dont like animal terms used when the worst of people are actually ment. Let,s call those greedy people just greedy people or 1%.
 
 
+1 # publiusinnyc 2011-11-25 18:29
It's a great list. The key is to disribute this and many others like it to millions of people until there is a buzz in the whole country about the need for dramatic democratic change.
 
 
+1 # Bayer 2011-11-25 20:39
ON VISION: A vision statement is not a strategy. It is "what the world will look like as a result of our actions." Vision Point 2 changes our form of government from a Republic to a direct democracy.
ON GOAL 2: Why can't a company do what it wants with its assets? Isn't there private property? The idea that jobs are "the most important national treasure" seems to say that money is what gives life meaning. That is questionable. Seems to me that what you should be driving at here is the practice of placing corporate assets earned in America into off-shore accounts.
On 6: Glad that the wars have been mentioned. However, this is framed as a one-time fix. The structural problems leading to this situation include the failure of the President to gain permission from Congress before going the war, the corporate/milit ary revolving door, lack of adequate auditing of the military, etc. Focus on the underlying structural problems. This one needs serious work.
COMMENT: As others have noted, you haven't addressed the manipulation of debt or the foreclosure mess--just as significant as the deregulation of the banks in the current crisis. Read Ellen Brown. Consider abolishing the Fed and creating both a National Band and/or State Banks. Consider specific relief for those whose homes are in foreclosure.
 
 
0 # Elliot 2011-11-26 11:27
CENTRAL PARK OCCUPATION & CONCERT

The movement took off and maintained vigor owing to the physical occupation of Zucotti Park. Now it is suffering from the lack of such a central space.

We need some really big musical talent to step up and create anthems for the permanent Occupation of Central Park. This would give the NYC movement back what it needs and help rekick-start things nationwide. This could be epic and go down in history.

We need Phish, Neil Young and others NOW.
 
 
0 # MarieF13 2011-11-26 14:10
WOW !!! Right on...no need to add anything to that!!
 
 
+1 # BRV 2011-11-26 14:19
Where does Occupy Wall Street go from here? Why can't we hit Wall Street where it really hurts by taking all our $ out of stocks and put it in small banks and credit unions? Or at least pull our $ out of certain stocks.
 
 
0 # williamofthetrees 2011-11-26 18:36
Occupy wall street does need to organize itself in every sense of the word. It must have as much legitimacy and backing as any other institution with the difference that in it, every individual must respond for the whole: the whole of life, including corporations and every human being inside of them. We are ALL responsible for having allowed some to take advantage of situations. We are ALL responsible for each other. It is a question of consciousness.

OWS must concentrate on actualizing the civil rights present in the constitution towards real democracy. It must expand world wide and its banner could be: "For a human world"

Every individual is responsible for being more human and having "humaneness" actualized in practical life where ever his or her life develops. The responsibility must not be left to a few leaders, everyone must know themselves responsible for "life".
 
 
0 # williamofthetrees 2011-11-26 18:37
It IS a struggle for "life" because the trend we are in is self-destructiv e. The "whole" needs to be "shared" and sharing it wisely is what is at stake. It is a world wide movement or the small pockets trying to push it forward will be hurt in their particular nation. It must involve every nation, every human being.

It is important to not be naive about protecting people from the unconsciousness in power which is why the movement must organize and real work be assigned.
 
 
+1 # Electricrailwaygod 2011-11-26 22:47
RAILWAY ELECTRIFICATION ! NOBODY is talking about it! This creats JOBS! starting an electric locomotive industry ((and other forms of electrically powered rolling stock) has been a high priority in virtually every civilised and industralised country on this planet (with exception to North America (Yes! this is inclusive of Canada and México as well!). India being a so-called "Third World" country has been electrifying all of her railways, Japan, Europe, even New Zealand and parts of Australia has been doing likewise! THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO VALID EXCUSE not to do likewise in North America!

Let's get on the bandwagon! Not only for high-speed trains, but for ALL forme of intercity rail such as cargo as well! Let's bring the railway industry out of the 1940's and into the 21st Century!

Further the need is also dire for GREEN power plants for this purpose as well with RENEWABLE energy!

Thank you!
 
 
0 # James Marcus 2011-11-27 10:39
I love it all! But 'Who' is going to bring all this about? The same gals & guys we now have, who rent us asunder?
I think not........
 
 
0 # sesut 2011-11-27 14:35
The proposed second amendment should include housing as a human right. What good is education and health care if you are homeless?
 
 
0 # Dan Gallin 2011-11-28 11:53
A fourth constitutional amendment is missing:


(d) A constitutional amendment declaring that labor is not a commodity; that everyone has the right to form trade unions and to join the trade union of his/her choice, subject only to the rules of the organization concerned, for the promotion and protection of his/her economic and social interests; that the right to collective bargaining shall be effectively recognized and that the right to strike is a fundamental human right; that the life and health of workers in all occupations shall be protected; that trade unions have the right for establish national federations and that the latter have the right to form or join international trade union organizations;
 
 
0 # MizKatz 2011-11-29 15:59
Regarding item 10-B, if the Supreme Court has declared that corporations are people, then why has no law enforcement official or grand jury stepped forward to arrest or indict those at Pacific Gas and Electric whose wreckless decisions resulted in the deaths of 8 innocent people and the destruction of 38 homes in San Bruno, California? "People" serve time in prison for involuntary manslaughter, and so if corporations want to be people, then they should be subject to the same laws and criminal prosecutions as "people" are!!
 
 
0 # djjohnthomas 2011-12-02 21:10
This is one of the best laid out documents I have read; However my hope all along has been that this effort not just be on a local or even national level, but a true fight for the rights of all people around the world. If we have to start from just here, I would at least like to see the stipulation that there be ABSOLUTELY NO dealings with any country that does not uphold basic human rights.
 
 
0 # Promoting Peace 2011-12-05 08:43
I read the proposal and love what Michael included. And, being that this is so crucial, I do feel it needs to be pretty inclusive from the beginning, while of course not being overly extensive or vague. "The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step". So, we need to take our time and truly make this first step as clearly, and wisely, as possible.

My only possible addition, which I hadn't seen listed, is to limit any and all lobbyists. Possibly preventing them from meeting with political figures in person, and limiting their petitioning to only: one, two, or just a few, well written, well-thought out petitions, where they have fair opportunity to present their position as best they can. (only one lobbyist, per issue, per company/corpora tion) And absolutely no gifts "of any sort" being allowed to be transferred, in any way, shape, or form!

I believe everyone, (as an individual), and every group, should have an equal right to present their position in such a fair way, diminishing as much chance of corruption as possible. And, of course, any petitions that go against the constitution and against the health and well-being of the citizens of this country, and our environment, should be immediately eliminated.
 
 
0 # Promoting Peace 2011-12-07 18:49
I read the proposal and love what Michael included. And, being that this is so crucial, I do feel it needs to be pretty inclusive from the beginning, while of course not being overly extensive or vague. "The journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step". So, we need to take our time and truly make this first step as clearly, and wisely, as possible.

My only possible addition, which I hadn't seen listed, is to limit any and all lobbyists. Possibly preventing them from meeting with political figures in person, and limiting their petitioning to only: one, two, or just a few, well written, well-thought out petitions, where they have fair opportunity to present their position as best they can. (only one lobbyist, per issue, per company/corpora tion) And absolutely no gifts "of any sort" being allowed to be transferred, in any way, shape, or form!

I believe everyone, (as an individual), and every group, should have an equal right to present their position in such a fair way, diminishing as much chance of corruption as possible. And, of course, any petitions that go against the constitution and against the health and well-being of the citizens of this country, and our environment, should be immediately eliminated.
 

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