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Boardman writes: "By now (late Sunday November 19) the rush to Red Queen justice - 'sentence first, verdict after' - seems to have slowed, or perhaps expired. Always with accusations like this, their impact relies on others coming forward to support the credibility of the first accuser."

Senator Al Franken on Capitol Hill. (photo: Al Drago/NYT)
Senator Al Franken on Capitol Hill. (photo: Al Drago/NYT)


Al Franken’s Behavior Pattern With Women - Consistently Supportive!

By William Boardman, Reader Supported News

21 November 17


[AUTHOR’S NOTE: Game changer? Early on November 20, after this story was written, CNN reported that Lindsay Menz, 33, of Frisco, Texas, reached out to CNN to accuse Senator Al Franken of an incident in 2010 at the Minnesota State Fair, when her family lived in Minnesota. She was posing with the senator while her husband, Jeremy Menz, took their picture. Lindsay Menz told CNN: “… [he] pulled me in really close, like awkward close, and as my husband took the picture, he put his hand full-fledged on my rear…. It was wrapped tightly around my butt cheek.” Jeremy Menz did not see the grope, which is not illegal under Minnesota law, but Lindsay Menz reported the incident to family and friends at the time, and responded to a friend on Facebook: “Dude -- Al Franken TOTALLY molested me! Creeper!” Lindsay Menz said she voted for Trump in 2016 but also voted for Democratic senator Amy Klobuchar in the past, and believes she voted for Franken. Lindsay Menz said that reading about Leeann Tweeden prompted her to come forward with her own story, which she didn’t want to do on her own. Franken issued a non-denial denial, saying he didn’t remember the photo moment, which was one of thousands he’s done. This is the first accusation involving Franken’s behavior in the Senate, making any Senate Ethics Committee investigation more critical. For now, the Reagan principle applies: “Trust, but verify.” In time the principle of proportionality will be tested (unless further revelations change the game further). This is Day Five of the Franken story, which provides an unexpected lens through which to view the piece below, written at the end of Day Four.]

Leeann Tweeden “scandal” spends first four days shrinking in plain sight

ith a spurious “kissed and groped” meme, the Leeann Tweeden team of rightwing hucksters grabbed headlines Thursday morning, November 16, attacking Minnesota Democratic senator Al Franken with what seemed a credible sexual assault accusation. Credulous media across the political spectrum took the false framing at face value, even though Leeann Tweeden’s own version of a USO tour in 2006 made it clear that the “kissing” was part of a rehearsal momentarily gone out of hand and the “groping” was a sophomoric photograph of mock groping that she never felt (she was asleep and only saw the picture days later). Eleven years later she went public with the story, asking the world to believe she’s been nursing the hurt for all that time.

For two days, November 16-17, the story burned brightly as Leeann Tweeden went on an extensive media tour, starting with her employer KABC Talk Radio, followed by her longtime friend Sean Hannity. For most of that time, people were mindlessly reiterating the dishonest “kissed and groped” framing, reinforcing the impression that American public figures have a hard time looking at evidence, marshaling facts, drawing distinctions, articulating differences, and generally showing any ability to think clearly about hot button issues. In time it was revealed that the “kissed and groped” story was shopped around in advance by KABC. One of the first to promote the story as an attack on Al Franken was long time Trump-Republican operative Roger Stone, who teased the story as “next in long list of Democrats to be accused of ‘grabby’ behavior.” Responding lamely to CBS News about Stone’s involvement, KABC claimed on November 17, “We have no political agenda“ – which raises more questions than it answers.

By now (late Sunday November 19) the rush to Red Queen justice – “sentence first, verdict after” – seems to have slowed, or perhaps expired. Always with accusations like this, their impact relies on others coming forward to support the credibility of the first accuser [see Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, Roy Moore, Harvey Weinstein, et alia]. So far, no second shoe has dropped on Franken, even though Tweeden coyly invited others to come forward, while slyly implying that Franken is a current, active predator:

I’m telling my story because there may be others…. I want them, and all the other victims of sexual assault, to be able to speak out immediately, and not keep their stories – and their anger – locked up inside for years, or decades.

Tweeden reprised this shtick on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” where her innuendo of present victims waiting to come forward was even stronger:

Because if he did this to somebody else, or if anybody else has stayed silent, or anybody else has been the victim of any kind of abuse, maybe they can speak out and feel like they can come forward in real time and not wait a decade or longer.

That bit of slippery slamming, lacking any supporting evidence, is just a smear. Until such evidence is available, mindless believing of an unsupported claim is credulous and unwarranted. We shall see where the facts lead, but so far they are trending away from Franken-as-predator in the direction of Tweeden-as-political-character-assassin. Here’s a sampling of some of the straws in the wind:

Senator Franken mentioned Tweeden on Senate floor in 2010: The reference in full to an unspecified USO tour: “I was kind of a co-host with a beautiful woman named Leeann Tweeden….” More interestingly, in the same floor speech, Franken described the members of his eclectic tour: “Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. Country western artists. Almost all of them were very right-wing, and we love each other, because we went on the tours.” On these USO tours Franken took on the military’s stay-in-the-closet policy for non-heterosexual troops, in decided opposition to traditional right-wing homophobia:

So I got to my Don’t Ask Don’t Tell material. “One thing I don’t get,” I’d say, “is Don’t Ask Don’t Tell. The bravest serve. Take your commander, for instance. He’s one of the bravest men ever to serve in the U.S. military. And he’s also one of the gayest. General, stand up, thank you!” The troops loved this, they thought it was hilarious, everyone was cheering and laughing – maybe especially those female soldiers up in the bleachers.

Franken apologized at least three times: Franken first issued a short apology on November 16, then later in the day a much longer, seemingly heartfelt one, while also saying he supported a Senate Ethics Committee inquiry and would cooperate with it. He also sent a private, personal apology to Tweeden, which she read aloud when she appeared on “The View” in the midst of her media tour:

“I want to apologize to you personally. I don’t know what was in my head when I took that picture, but that doesn’t matter. There’s no excuse and I understand why you could feel violated by that photo. I remember that rehearsal differently, but what’s important is the impact it had on you and you felt violated by my actions and for that I apologize. I have tremendous respect for your work for the USO and I am ashamed that my actions ruined that experience for you. I am so sorry.”

By the time she was on “The View,” Tweeden was softening the harshness of her original KABC accusation. No longer implying that Franken had a closetful of skeletons, Tweeden told her TV audience rather disingenuously:

I’m not calling for his resignation, nor am I calling for his career to end. I just want to shine a light and stand on the shoulders of these other women to say, “This is not right, and this is not what should be happening in our society.”

Women start coming forward about Franken: The November 17 Washington Post had a story based on reactions of eight women who had worked on Senator Franken’s staff. They were unanimous in their opinion:

In our time working for the Senator, he treated us with the utmost respect. He valued our work and our opinions and was a champion for women both in the legislation he supported and in promoting women to leadership roles in our offices.

What does the photo prove? According to Leeann Tweeden, the photo proved that Franken “grabbed my breasts while I was sleeping.” That characterization has been challenged. The photo itself does not support a charge of “grabbing,” and maybe not even of touching Tweeden at all (one hand is in mid air, the other throws a shadow) – the evidence is not dispositive. But it is tasteless, tacky, sophomoric, pick your pejorative. Snopes has examined a supposed quote from the photographer – not identified – that the photograph was staged by Franken and Tweeden in collusion. Franken has not said that. Tweeden has said she was asleep and there is no credible evidence to the contrary. On the other hand, Tweeden was not present for the event. Whatever the full reality may be, all the photo proves is that a 55-year-old comedian had himself photographed doing a Saturday Night Live type gag.

Has Leeann Tweeden been slut-shamed? Some say so, and perhaps mention of her long history of posing scantily clad or nude (in Playboy) is a form of slut-shaming. But it IS her history and is relevant to her purported outrage over the “groping” photo. Interestingly, the Google images page demonstrating this history (linked to in this story) has been cleaned up to a hilariously fastidious extent, making it seem that she almost never wore a bathing suit – in other words, Google has created a structural lie.

And other video has surfaced that make her Franken-focused outrage seem perhaps contrived for political consumption. Appearing with Robin Williams, Tweeden mock-smooches him, wraps a real leg around him, and pats his bum. In a USO tour photo, Tweeden appears to grab a healthy handful of a guitar player’s butt. Another USO tour photo shows Tweeden apparently kissing a surprised-looking soldier full on the mouth.

More women speak out about Franken: The November 17 New York Times talked to three women who were on Saturday Night Live with Franken. Jane Curtin said, “I have never seen him in a situation where he has been sexually aggressive with anybody.” Victoria Jackson said he told her “he was troubled she acted like ‘a ditz’ in meetings when he knew she was smart, a comment that unsettled her but one that she ultimately did not feel was harassment.” Her stock in trade on the show was acting like a ditz.

On Real Time With Bill Maher on November 17, Bill Maher defended Franken, which is not a surprise. Maher also drew the necessary distinction between Franken (with one accuser) and Judge Roy Moore (9 accusers) and President Trump (16 accusers):

So, how about another #MeToo campaign, where it’s: I can tell two unlike things apart #MeToo. I know the difference between a man who once acted like a dick and a man who is a dick #MeToo. I know the difference between someone who behaved like a high-schooler and someone who targeted high-schoolers #MeToo.”

The women on the same show, Rebecca Traister and Chelsea Handler, were articulate and incisive (especially after the 29-minute mark) on the difference between Al Franken and actual monsters. No wonder a spokesperson for Franken said November 19 that Franken has no intention of stepping down. Leeann Tweeden has said she accepts Franken’s apology and “it’s time to move on.”

Trump weighed in with lying tweet: On November 16, Trump first tweets fake news about Franken photos that don’t exist, but which echo his own famous quote about pussy-grabbing. But then Trump says of Franken: “And to think that just last week he was lecturing anyone who would listen about sexual harassment and respect for women.” Wait a minute, that’s a defense of Franken. He has a history of supporting women; he has women throughout his life attesting to his character. Trump has nothing even close. Trump’s record with women is consistently self-condemning. That’s one reason there are at least 14 sexual assault claims against the president, one of which involves his raping a 13-year-old (allegedly). We don’t know how many other victims he has silence with settlements. Trump has publicly called his accusers liars. Privately he has famously said:

… I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her and I failed. I’ll admit it. I did try and fuck her. She was married…. And I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping…. I moved on her like a bitch, but I couldn’t get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look….

[As another woman approaches] Yeah, that’s her, with the gold. I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. I just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything…. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.



William M. Boardman has over 40 years experience in theatre, radio, TV, print journalism, and non-fiction, including 20 years in the Vermont judiciary. He has received honors from Writers Guild of America, Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Vermont Life magazine, and an Emmy Award nomination from the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences.

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-48 # librarian1984 2017-11-21 15:06
My thoughts on this are known and I have a T'giving dinner to prep so I'll be brief:

Franken and the Ds have handled this well and I am not calling for Franken to resign (unless more surfaces). I am not practicing false equivalency. I don't believe what he did was as bad as Trump, Moore, Spacey et al. But it wasn't good either, and I hope it ends his run for president in 2020.

The thing that prompted me to comment though is this:

"You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- I just start kissing them .. I just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it .. You can do anything."

That sounds exactly like what Franken did.
 
 
+51 # Tweedy 2017-11-21 16:16
The thing that prompted me to comment though is this:

"You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- I just start kissing them .. I just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it .. You can do anything."

That sounds exactly like what Franken did.

Then you had better reread the article.
 
 
-19 # librarian1984 2017-11-21 19:21
Okay, I reread it. It is irrelevant to my point.

I am saying Trump's quote sounds eerily like what Franken did, and there they are, side by side, with liberals saying Trump is evil for saying it but Franken, who allegedly actually did the exact thing, is excused.

That is all independent of the content of this article, which is STILL based on guesswork. Maybe she IS a huckster. I don't know. Neither do you. Neither does Mr. Boardman. Senator Franken hasn't said so. He hasn't said she's lying.

He's actually apologized, implying he acknowledges he did something wrong -- so why do WE, who DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH, continue to demonize the accuser -- contrary to all the high-minded ideas we've been spouting for years?

Such hypocrisy -- and for what? All we have to do is wait, and not rush to judgment. How is that so difficult, particularly when so much depends on it -- a continued safe space for victims, our credibility, justice?

This is a bit surreal, as if someone might, at any moment, say this was a joke, because I cannot believe the people here, supposedly tree-hugging, open-minded, tolerant liberals, are acting like this and saying these things.
 
 
0 # WBoardman 2017-11-27 22:21
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11948736&ref=rss

Why woman approached The Washington Post
with dramatic, false tale about Roy Moore

This story is especially relevant to those who think accusers deserve automatic, unquestioning belief.

As Reagan once said: Trust, but verify

The journalistic right is a snakepit of deception....
 
 
-17 # Saberoff 2017-11-21 17:01
"... and I hope it ends his run for president in 2020."

Come on, Lib.. You can't expect the Democrats to let him bow out of 2020; he's a television star for Christ's sake.
 
 
+10 # Brice 2017-11-22 05:19
Now wait, it the logic here that Franken did not harass
women enough to live up the previous standards and
precedents set by other politicians?

As described, I think Franken would be good enough of
a President that this would not dissuade me to vote
for him, and any Progressive that would let this put them
off is a FOX News manipulated chump!
 
 
+3 # ericlipps 2017-11-22 05:35
And what makes you think Franken will make anything more than a comedy-gag run for president in 2020? Or ever?

On the other hand, Roy Moore just might, especially if he beats the rap his dealing with right now. And Donald Trump, of course, IS president.
 
 
-6 # librarian1984 2017-11-22 13:19
Well he's written a book, and other signifiers suggest he's thinking about it. I remember him refusing to join in calls for W's impeachment. Many Air America listeners were upset with him about it.

He was also a superdelegate who ignored the vote of Minnesotans. Those are MY problems with Franken.

Imo he might have a chance, but it'd be slim. He's too corporate for the times.

But Moore wouldn't have a chance. He probably couldn't win their primary but who knows, the way they're going. But imo he couldn't win a general. Not unless he ran against Hillary.
 
 
-8 # librarian1984 2017-11-22 10:01
True enough.

I recently heard a pundit try to make the case that politics is becoming more celbrity-based and the most trusted liberal celebrities, and potential POTUS candidates from the left, included Tom Hanks and Oprah.

Personally, I'd opt for Susan Sarandon :-)

Have a great holiday, S.
 
 
+21 # giraffee23 2017-11-21 19:42
Trump said "You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- I just start kissing them .. I just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it .. You can do anything."

Not Franken.

Lib - reword your comment -- you made a big mistake
Senator Franken was in a comedy thing and this is not who he is.
.....
 
 
-13 # librarian1984 2017-11-22 10:05
That is my point. Trump said it and we, correctly, condemn him for it. Franken actually did this but we excuse him.

Trump SAID it. Franken DID it.

We do not KNOW this is not who Franken is. We need to find out. And until we find out we need to stop attacking the accuser. That is ALL I'm saying and I can't believe it's controversial.

I don't have an opinion yet. Neither should you.
 
 
+1 # kyzipster 2017-11-24 10:59
You're cherry picking Trump, it was the 'grab 'em by the *&%%$' comment that got the bigger reaction.

Now he's defending a guy who was banned from a shopping mall for trolling teenage girls.

I laughed when I first saw that, not to laugh at the seriousness of the issue but our culture is beyond redemption, we may as well be entertained. "Of course he did!" The bigger surprise would have been Trump condemning the pedophile.

Franken ain't no Trump. He's not getting a break on this and that's a good thing but we do need some perspective, I don't think he should be forced out of the Senate.
 
 
-1 # librarian1984 2017-11-25 09:22
No, I am referring to the quote Mr. Boardman closed his article with.

Two more women have come forward against Franken now, Democrats who supported him. One was twenty-one when he grabbed her. He was in his 50s.

How many until our hypocrisy sloughs off? Or is he allowed unlimited butt grabs? If so, let's tell his other victims not to bother with the trauma of coming forward.

This women have chosen to remain anonymous, probably because of the way they've seen the first two treated.

I suppose that was the point, yeah? Mission accomplished.
 
 
+2 # kyzipster 2017-11-25 12:33
You're turning this around as if I'm suggesting that Franken should be given a break or a free pass. I think he should be held accountable and that's happening. Where's the hypocrisy?

I'm simply saying that he doesn't have the same lack of character as Trump. Franken's reactions so far to these accusations would suggest that.
 
 
0 # WBoardman 2017-11-27 19:25
Why does librarian 1984 rush to judgment on Trump?

He's got more accusers than Franken saying he DID it,
and WORSE....

On the other hand, librarian1984's earlier comments here
deserve up-votes.
 
 
+16 # wleming 2017-11-21 17:23
Colberts equation of Franken with the predator Moore was an outrage....real Fox News tactic, and a false equivalency coupled with perhaps a little bit of revenge on Franken, a successful senator who started as a comic.
 
 
-1 # Henry 2017-11-21 21:15
Colbert is and always has been an idiot. He would never have gotten anywhere without Jon Stewart. Furthermore, he is not funny, not at all. And he has "no credibility" on anything.
 
 
-9 # librarian1984 2017-11-22 10:07
I remember when people thought he was brilliant when he went after Sanders progressives. The wheel always turns.
 
 
+8 # elkingo 2017-11-21 18:06
There are indeed personal distinctions to be made about the relative severity of these offenses, alleged or obvious. But the real matter is the virtual tsunami of women coming forward, which may herald a cultural/histor ical change of consciousness the depth and extent of which is impossible to conceive, yet crucial, not only to our very survival, but also to our turning into human beings - which we have never been, due to history and it's most arrived and deep pathology, capitalism. Seem like a lot? Puzzle about it.
 
 
-5 # librarian1984 2017-11-22 10:27
I'm sad to hear about Conyers but waiting to hear more. Kasie Hunt, one of MSDNC's bright lights, said he's twice arrived at House meetings in his pajamas recently, and the one accuser I heard about seemed to be from last year (?) so dementia might be a factor. Conyers is 88, the oldest member of Congress I believe.

Hunt also raised the point that exit polls and political operatives suggest that the key to the VA sweep -- and future elections -- may very well be women, who are more engaged in politics now (many are running for office too) and 'feel as though there is more at stake for them with every passing day'. Amen!

Remember Susan Sarandon saying that Trump, for all his faults, just might hasten the revolution? I think that is what we are seeing.

Up until recently I have seen Sanders progressives as the only potential saviors of the US but it seems a women's coalition might also do the trick. The problem with THAT though is reconciling Hillbots with female Bernie Bros AND independents

And we haven't started on academia yet! That is going to be a can of worms. I do worry that if we politicize this movement it might be used by the GOP to leverage even more influence on US higher education.

We need to be brave and honest, including me. My instinct is to believe the women but I know there will be false accusations too, because people are complicated. This is going to be painful --but on the other side it might be wonderful.
 
 
-9 # LionMousePudding 2017-11-21 19:34
With the second accusation--- and three people she told at the time who corroborated in separate police interviews-- I am HEARTBROKEN.

BUT it shows how ALL men are encouraged by our rape culture to think women are theirs for the taking. Of course he knew she would not squawk because he is a celebrity and a public figure.

This does NOT excuse him and it is time for him to find a good successor, a woman, who he will support to take his place rather than run for re-election. I hope that is soon.

In other words, let's not be idiots and let the governor appoint a Republican.

SO frustrated.
 
 
-11 # LionMousePudding 2017-11-21 19:44
Put on your I AM PART OF THE PROBLEM T-shirt, Mr Boardman.

This is no different than "what was she wearing" in a rape trial.

CONSENSUAL is NOT the same as FORCED WITHOUT CONSENT.

I have had sex many times but that does not mean I can have sex forced on me. Let's look at this idiot's idea of which women are or aren't able to be sexually harassed:

"Has Leeann Tweeden been slut-shamed? Some say so, and perhaps mention of her long history of posing scantily clad or nude (in Playboy) is a form of slut-shaming. But it IS her history and is relevant to her purported outrage over the “groping” photo. Interestingly, the Google images page demonstrating this history (linked to in this story) has been cleaned up to a hilariously fastidious extent, making it seem that she almost never wore a bathing suit – in other words, Google has created a structural lie.

"And other video has surfaced that make her Franken-focused outrage seem perhaps contrived for political consumption. Appearing with Robin Williams, Tweeden mock-smooches him, wraps a real leg around him, and pats his bum. In a USO tour photo, Tweeden appears to grab a healthy handful of a guitar player’s butt. Another USO tour photo shows Tweeden apparently kissing a surprised-looki ng soldier full on the mouth."

Have you had sex, Mr. Boardmann? Because if you have, it is ok (if you are straight or gay) for a man to rape you. Sex is sex, after all. Have fun.

There is much more garbage in your article... cont
 
 
-9 # LionMousePudding 2017-11-21 20:22
More to show how well Mr Boardman's I AM PART OF THE PROBLEM T-shirt fits so well.

Sexual harassment or assault is very hard to admit. It is CRUCIAL that women have support and encouragement. This is a GOOD thing to say. It is NOT a character assassination as she stated IF:

"Because if he did this to somebody else, or if anybody else has stayed silent, or anybody else has been the victim of any kind of abuse, maybe they can speak out and feel like they can come forward in real time and not wait a decade or longer."

If there are (and there is at least one) other women he has abused in this way, we NEED to SUPPORT them.

And a man rarely has just one incident like this. If he felt OK forcing a kiss on her, he felt OK forcing kisses on other women. He felt it was his right. There is no reason to practice a kiss and she had already refused. He forced her. It was not just an unwanted, unwelcome kiss, it was one she had REFUSED. He had also WRITTEN her into the scene with this kiss. Whose hands was this in?

Now Mr. Boardmann thinks this means Franken could never have sexually harassed Tweeden:

"Senator Franken mentioned Tweeden on Senate floor in 2010: "I was kind of a co-host with a beautiful woman named Leeann Tweeden…”

Rather than mention her talent or character, what he noticed was that she was beautiful. This is more of an indication of Franken's character than wrapping herself around someone she WANTED to wrap herself around, is of Tweeden's character.
 
 
-6 # librarian1984 2017-11-22 10:54
Agreed. I don't see Tweeden's statement as trying to elicit a political witch hunt. If we give her the benefit of the doubt, that she genuinely believes it's a good thing for ALL victims to come forth, how is she supposed to word that in a way that can't be construed as political?

I take her at her word, and agree that part of this growing awareness is precisely because women are finding courage by realizing they're not alone. It is inexcusable if WE, the left, close that safe space and end reform by attacking conservative accusers.

It betrays our principles for political gain -- and the WAY we're attacking! EXACTLY in ways we've said FOR DECADES is not right -- calling up her history, photos and looks.

Many men have no idea how saturated women are in abuse. It's time for it to end but we don't accomplish that this way. They should talk to their mothers, sisters, friends and colleagues.

Another factor is that men who abuse women abuse power generally. Chances are they're bullies, and abusive to men too. It behooves us to oust abusers NO MATTER WHAT PARTY THEY'RE IN, no matter what position they hold. If I found out Sanders harassed women and it was proven, I wouldn't support him anymore -- and I'm pretty sure someone from the DNC is already working on this.

In addition to being morally abhorrent, it's also noticeable how people have to contort their principles and words to justify this -- when all that's required is waiting.
 
 
-11 # LionMousePudding 2017-11-21 20:29
Now let's look at Boardman's character.

First, as previously, he thinks if a woman has ever given anyone sexual attention, she is fair game.

Second, he thinks this is OK:

"..the “kissing” was part of a rehearsal momentarily gone out of hand"

Out of hand-- out of Tweeden's hand. No one forced Franken to do what he did; he had the situation very well in hand.

This will lead us right to "The rape was part of sexual interest that got out of hand"

So Boardman thinks that it is ok for a man to force a woman if.. if what? What did Tweeden do that swept Franken's passion into something uncontrollable that led to a kiss as she refused? This is another part of the rape society that Boardman likes to live in. Men can't control themselves sexually. They get out of hand. We can't blame them.

This is why rape is a woman's fault and anything she wears, has done, or does, can result in, say, sexual interest gotten out of hand. Those men can't help themselves.

And poor, maligned Trump can't be blamed for grabbing a woman's pussy as a greeting gotten out of hand.

Men like Boardman are desperately clinging onto the right of men to continue sexually harassing women, by believing women deserve it and men can’t control themselves. This is why this is so common. This is about men like Boardman finally being outed as

PART OF THE PROBLEM.
 
 
+9 # bonehead3 2017-11-22 00:12
Yes, there is a difference between "frat boy" humor and obsessive pathology ostensibly based on neo-Christian values. Senator Franken has not been banned from shopping malls, likely has not asked for parental permission to date a girl half his age and in her teens and has not been accused of sexual manipulation based on position of power and influence. Definitely an attempt at diversionary "hit job" by the right wing-nuts! Just ask Roger Stone...
 
 
-2 # librarian1984 2017-11-22 13:33
This may very well be diversionary, but if the atmosphere encourages women to come forth we should be prepared for more -- and more bad news. Of course Democrats will be accused.

There IS a continuum of behavior that most of us can intuit, paedophilia worse than groping for example, but there is also a long painful road ahead in which we need to discuss and decide what the limits and consequences are -- and women should decide the limits.

I don't hear people saying what Franken and Moore did are equally violent -- but what Franken did is not right and he seems willing to accept consequences that don't take away his Senate seat.

There is going to be a lot of 'diversion' ahead so get used to it.
 
 
+11 # Brice 2017-11-22 05:15
We've been FOX'ed with FAKE NEWS ...

Technically, Leann Tweeden gave her consent for that
skit and rehearsal. I'd like to see a video of the skit
showing if to be funny it required an over the top kiss.

Her photo does not show her breasts being grabbed or
groped or touched. Tweeden lied to the public, and she is lying
for her employer, FOX News, and new we all again know
how much FOX really cares about women's rights.

It shows Franken's hovering hands over her chest, which is
PROTECTED BY A FLAK JACKET. A big NOTHING.

I say FOX is the one using women. I say this women is a
paid political operative.

Her claim is not in the same universe as Roy Moore, Weinstein
and others. What Republican operative came up with this ...
I'd bet Karl Rove who has such a taste for maggoty dirty tricks
like this before.

She worked for Hooters, posed nude, has no other skills except
her attractiveness, and I don't really care about any of that -
good for her, who cares. Except that she also has a total lack
of character to lie for FOX News.

What this is, is a working girl trying to make a living, and
Franken is an exploitable rung she had to step on to rise up
the ladder a bit to a bigger bank account. Are they even
now?

How many times in her life was Leann Tweeden truly sexually
harassed and where this honestly ranked in severity, ...
maybe last? Any settlements from FOX News Leann? ;-)
 
 
+12 # Brice 2017-11-22 05:21
I said it in a reply, I'll say it again ...

Al Franken is a competent enough worker and advocate
for the American people compared to most of what is
out there that any Progressive that would allow this story
as understood today to put them off voting for him again
or for President is a FOX News manipulated CHUMP!

Boo-yah! ( or whatever the hell it is)
 
 
-14 # babaregi 2017-11-22 05:51
Maybe you liberals should consider human nature a bit and be more realistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yy0eHuNOhCU&t=228s
 
 
0 # WBoardman 2017-11-27 19:32
babaregi seems to be condoning misbehavior and criminality
just because they're bi-partisan.

Who benefits from that?

His link to a clip of BenShapiro rightly jumping all over
the offenses of Charlies Rose and John Conyers,
is also hilarious (unintentionall y) when he attacks the awful
Congressional procedure for responding to and covering up
sexual harassment.

No telling how Congress came to adopt such a brutally
coercive and unjust procedure.

What we know – and what Shapiro never mentions –
is who has controlled Congress since 2011 and has
done nothing to change a corrupt policy.

That would be Republicans.

Not that Democrats were pushing for any change, to be sure.
 
 
+7 # MikeAF48 2017-11-22 14:11
We need more honest politicians like Al Franken. A successful comic writer for Saturday Night Live. He has many, many supporters you can tell by his character, his demeanor he is a stand up guy.
 

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