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Timm writes: "If you look at the numbers, Bernie Sanders is the most popular politician in America - and it's not even close. Yet bizarrely, the Democratic party - out of power across the country and increasingly irrelevant - still refuses to embrace him and his message. It's increasingly clear they do so at their own peril."

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont talks to supporters during a rally at the University of Washington, in Seattle. (photo: Joshua Trujillo/Seattlepi.com)
Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont talks to supporters during a rally at the University of Washington, in Seattle. (photo: Joshua Trujillo/Seattlepi.com)


Everyone Loves Bernie Sanders. Except, It Seems, the Democratic Party

By Trevor Timm, Guardian UK

18 March 17

 

A new poll found he is the most popular politician in America. But instead of embracing his message, establishment Democrats continue to resist him

f you look at the numbers, Sanders is the most popular politician in America – and it’s not even close. Yet bizarrely, the Democratic party – out of power across the country and increasingly irrelevant – still refuses to embrace him and his message. It’s increasingly clear they do so at their own peril.

A new Fox News poll out this week shows Sanders has a +28 net favorability rating among the US population, dwarfing all other elected politicians on both ends of the political spectrum. And he’s even more popular among the vaunted “independents”, where he is at a mind boggling +41.

This poll is not just an aberration. Look at this Huffington Post chart that has tracked Sanders’ favorability rating over time, ever since he gained national prominence in 2015 when he started running for the Democratic nomination. The more people got to know him, they more they liked him – the exact opposite of what his critics said would happen when he was running against Clinton.

One would think with numbers like that, Democratic politicians would be falling all over themselves to be associated with Sanders, especially considering the party as a whole is more unpopular than the Republicans and even Donald Trump right now. Yet instead of embracing his message, the establishment wing of the party continues to resist him at almost every turn, and they seem insistent that they don’t have to change their ways to gain back the support of huge swaths of the country.

Politico ran a story just this week featuring Democratic officials fretting over the fact that Sanders supporters may upend their efforts to retake governorships in southern states by insisting those candidates adopt Sanders’ populist policies – seemingly oblivious to the fact that Sanders plays well in some of those states too.

Sanders’ effect on Trump voters can be seen in a gripping town hall this week that MSNBC’s Chris Hayes hosted with him in West Virginia – often referred to as “Trump country” – where the crowd ended up giving him a rousing ovation after he talked about healthcare being a right of all people and that we are the only industrialized nation in the world who doesn’t provide healthcare as a right to all its people.

But hand wringing by Democratic officials over 2018 candidates is really just the latest example: the establishment wing of the party aggressively ran another opponent against Keith Ellison, Sanders’ choice to run the Democratic National Committee, seemingly with the primary motivation to keep the party away from Sanders’ influence.

They’ve steadfastly refused to take giant corporations head on in the public sphere and wouldn’t even return to an Obama-era rule that banned lobbyist money from funding the DNC that was rescinded last year. And despite the broad popularity of the government guaranteeing health care for everyone, they still have not made any push for a Medicare-for-all plan that Sanders has long called for as a rebuttal to Republicans’ attempt to dismantle Obamacare.

Democrats seem more than happy to put all the blame of the 2016 election on a combination of Russia and James Comey and have engaged in almost zero introspection on the root causes of the larger reality: they are also out of power in not the presidency, but both also houses of Congress, governorships and state houses across the country as well.

As Politico reported on the Democrats’ post-Trump strategy in February, “Democratic aides say they will eventually shift to a positive economic message that Rust Belt Democrats can run on”. However: “For now, aides say, the focus is on slaying the giant and proving to the voters who sent Trump into the White House why his policies will fail.”

In other words, they’re doubling down on the exact same failing strategy that Clinton used in the final months of the campaign. Sanders himself put it this way in his usual blunt style in an interview with New York magazine this week – when asked about whether the Democrats can adapt to the political reality, he said: “There are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats.”

In the long term, change may be coming for Democrats whether they like it or not. Sanders loyalists are quietly attempting to take over many local Democratic party positions around the country. While Ellison lost the race for the DNC chair, it was incredibly close – closer than Sanders came to beating Clinton. And Sanders’ supporters are already organizing primary challenges to incumbent Democrats who aren’t sufficiently opposing Trump.

One thing’s for sure: Democrats who refuse to change do so at their peril.

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+77 # CDMR 2017-03-18 09:13
I've been saying this since last November when Trump trounced Hillary and I've been getting either censored or thumbed down for trying to say it. Maybe now it is so obvious that even the Hillaryites at RSN can no longer ignore it. Maybe RSN will go back to being a Sanders-site as it was last summer when there were very compelling discussions.

As time goes on, more and more Trump voters who wanted and outsider, populist, and change in Washington will go over to Sanders. By 2018 and 2020, Sanders will be a certain winner in the presidential race -- if the Democcrat party will even allow him to run on "their" ticket. My bet is that they won't. They'll put up Corey Booker or some other puppet of banks and big pharma and Trump will get a second term.

This is serious. The popular demand for change, democratic socialism, and an end to the permanent war is becoming overwhelming. Trump capitalized on that movement, but he's quickly betraying it.

Sandeers understands the seriousness of the situation:

“There are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats.”

Are you listening -- Clintons, Podestas, Perezs, Schumers and the rest.
 
 
+51 # wrknight 2017-03-18 13:30
No, the DNC is not listening. That's exactly what the author is telling you. The DNC only listens to the big spenders and that's not you or me.

There needs to be a revolution in the Democratic Party or there needs to be a new party. I will try to help the revolution, but until the DNC starts to recognize the 99%, I will vote GREEN.
 
 
-1 # newell 2017-03-19 14:23
Vote "GREEN" and give Trump a second term--cause there may be another war or some clean water left or more CO2 that he can put in the air. Instead why don't you work at the local level to change the Democratic Party--the only real chance to take back the country from the crazies. No matter how green the Green Party is--it won't matter a damn if they can't get even close to being elected--and we don't have proportional voting or a parliament..... .thanx but I'll stick with bernie.
 
 
+28 # vicnada 2017-03-18 19:57
According to the HuffPo Trend Chart linked in this article, a year and a half ago Bernie's negative and positive polls were tied at about 30%. Just after July 2015, it seems, people finally paid enough attention to Bernie to split the equal rise. Negatives continued to rise but peaked at about 40% in summer last year before falling back again to 30%. Meanwhile, Bernie's favorability rating has risen steadily for almost three years to it's current 56%. The establishment Democrats should understand that this steady lift comes from not being weighted down with corporate gold.
 
 
+16 # wrknight 2017-03-19 08:01
Bear in mind, MSM discounted Bernie and gave him little coverage until nearly the end.

Also bear in mind MSM gave Trump all the coverage they could each time he spoke, tweeted, burped or farted.

So don't forget to give MSM due credit for the pickle we're in. The DNC, with the help of MSM, screwed us royally.
 
 
+11 # Ruth Steinberger 2017-03-19 13:07
Excellent point. How was Trump treated as a candidate -- he had no experience and was a reality TV clown-- while Sanders was not treated as the serious candidate that he was and got barely a TV glimpse. Heck of a pill we are in now.
 
 
+6 # RLF 2017-03-19 05:40
It is funny how during the election, the same people that don't ever want to have their gender affect anything, wanted Hillary's gender to be the reason to vote for her...they didn't want any one to look past that at the pro-corporate, pro=1% candidate that would have made no difference to the working class.
 
 
-4 # ericlipps 2017-03-19 08:55
There's plenty of demand for "change." That's how Trump got to be anything more than a joke candidate in the GOP primaries. (Well, that and his appeal to raw bigotry.)

There is virtually ZERO demand for "democratic socialism"--cer tainly under that name. The label "socialist" has been poison in U.S. politics for a hundred years and more. If you can show me an avowedly socialist candidate for president who got more votes than Norman Thomas did in 1936 (187,971), I'd be much obliged.
 
 
+7 # Salus Populi 2017-03-19 13:55
First, whatever he may call himself, Sanders's policy proposals fit squarely in the tradition of those of Roosevelt Democrats -- an endangered species primarily due to the machinations of the DLC and its corporate clients.

As to your question, you might look up the campaigns of Eugene V. Debs, an avowed socialist who ran for president from jail as the Socialist Party candidate after being imprisoned by the altogether vile sociopath Woodrow Wilson -- an icon to the neo-libs, by the way -- for calling the draft unconstitutiona l at a public meeting, which netted him a ten-year sentence. He received almost a million votes [913,000 plus] at a time when the total voting population was around one-tenth what it was last fall.

Note that the article you are commenting on itself shows Bernie Sanders, who is still altogether up-front about his political orientation, to be -- according to Fox News, no less -- by far the most popular politician in the U.S. today.
 
 
+7 # newell 2017-03-19 14:35
you need to talk to somebody under 40. they don't care about the label--it's just those older that have a real phobia of sharing and believe it is ok for someone to have billions while others have neither home nor food.
 
 
+4 # heartofnests 2017-03-20 06:34
Anyone but Hillary or Corey Booker—she's been without a soul for many decades, but Booker, my Lord, how quickly he tasted of the flesh and succumbed. We knew he was bought out when Sarah Palin came to one of his rallies to stump for him! Sarah Palin and Corey Booker? Really Corey? You are Sad!
 
 
+2 # librarian1984 2017-03-20 10:11
That was a remarkably rapid plummet, wasn't it? I think he's lost his shot. He's been building to this point so brilliantly but totally blew it .. short term gain got him! I wonder if he lost an important advisor. All his careful preparation and a chance at the presidency for some dirty pharma money? Not too smart. I'm not going to forget it -- or our Sen. Casey, either -- up for re-election next time. Buh-bye, Bob!
 
 
+22 # Timshel 2017-03-18 09:47
"And Sanders’ supporters are already organizing primary challenges to incumbent Democrats who aren’t sufficiently opposing Trump."

The article is very good, but this ending statement is significantly inaccurate. The challenge is to Democrats who are not sufficiently opposed to Trump's POLICIES (and those of Ryan et al.) It is not about personalities, it is about policies that will hurt the A
 
 
+2 # newell 2017-03-19 14:39
When you oppose a politician, it is understood that it is their policies you are opposed to. Seems you are splitting hairs.
 
 
+29 # Timshel 2017-03-18 09:55
"Sanders’ supporters are already organizing primary challenges to incumbent Democrats who aren’t sufficiently opposing Trump."

This is a very good article with a significant error at the end. The challenge is to Democrats not sufficiently opposed to those Trump (& Ryan et al) POLICIES that hurt the American people. Attacking Trump, just so, is really the usual narrow approach used by establishment Democrats to divert us away from criticizing them for primarily favoring wealthy donors to the detriment of the rest of us.
 
 
+47 # chrisconnolly 2017-03-18 10:01
“There are some people in the Democratic Party who want to maintain the status quo. They would rather go down with the Titanic so long as they have first-class seats.”

We need you Bernie. If we don't get to have your brand of true representation we will crash harder than any civilization in history. And soon I fear we could get a first hand look at famine and police state fascism.
 
 
+56 # danireland46 2017-03-18 10:13
Bless the millennials! I hear a lot of criticism towards this era, but my kids are millennials and they're bright, hard working and still hopeful, AND they discovered Bernie.
I've liked Bernie for a long time. He was the voice crying in the wasteland for reform and major changes in America. I especially liked his Single Payer health care plan. He was the millennial choice for POTUS. an old white haired independent politician from Vermont who made sense to them. After the DNC scuttled his aspirations, and put HRC up against Trump, even though polls showed that Bernie would beat the donald, not HRC; we got what we deserved - Trump POTUS.
Even now, Sander's supporter and friend, Keith Ellison, is denied the DNC leadership he deserves. The neo-liberal DNC still can't see the direction it needs. It appears we need a new party reflecting the wishes of the people.
 
 
+54 # Woratnac 2017-03-18 10:20
Good article. It explains why Americans like me hate the Democratic Party as much as we do the Republicans. This is a hack-driven machine. It is responsible for the mess we're in and no one in the so-called establishment party wants to admit that.
 
 
0 # newell 2017-03-19 14:42
Then you disagree with Senator Bernie Sanders. He believes there is a lot of difference between the two parties.
 
 
+13 # Wise woman 2017-03-18 10:34
Instead of repubs and dems, this is DUMB & DUMBER!!!
 
 
+22 # bbaldwin2001 2017-03-18 10:43
The country miss the boat when they did not vote for Bernie for President. He certainly is far more adept at holding this position than the present one.. We must really think hard to get someone else in the Presidency, even if it means impeaching DJT.
 
 
+49 # Jayceecool 2017-03-18 10:44
Isn't it obvious yet that Democratic Party elites are as corrupt and venal as Republicans? Both parties support corporate welfare and never-ending war. As Bernie might say, real political change comes only from the grass roots...
 
 
+2 # newell 2017-03-19 14:43
And yet Sanders favors one party much more than the other.
 
 
+29 # Elroys 2017-03-18 11:16
Time to give sanity a chance. The nearly complete lack of vision on Hillary's and the Dems' part handed the country over to the jackles and hyenas. They are raping and pillaging the 99% of our country for the benefit of the 1%. With only 2 months into the Trump reign, we are already seeing what happens when an conman without competence where it matters in today's world can get us - pretty scary. We have elected a corrupt and extraordinarily greedy nut job who cares only about gold - and only for himself and his cronies. This is not America. Trump is a lesson in "never again" - I hope we've learned our lessons already. Now, we organize and mobilize for 2018 and 2020. Get prepared.

Bernie is one of the most honest and vibrant political leaders in America today - perfect? certainly not. Elizabeth Warren. Corey Booker. There truly are people - political leaders who care about and work for the well being of the 99%. Time to build the coalition that matters for all the people. I believe Bernie, Elizabeth and others - including those outside the crazy world of politics - must come together - get ready.

Get these disgusting people running OUR government out of power
ASAP.
By the way - to those few remaining thoughtful people under the Repub banner, please join us Dems and Independents and let's take back our country - for the people this time.
 
 
+34 # FIRSTNORN1 2017-03-18 11:28
The Dems are *Dead in the Water* until they embrace Ellison over "what Perez represents". Long live Bernie and the movement toward Democratic Socialism. Do not give the *old guard* Democrats another nickel until they have been forced into oblivion.
 
 
+16 # Saberoff 2017-03-18 11:31
To all Democrats around the liberal hotbed I call home: Get out now before your own Trumping (coming quickly to your next election).

I would suggest you announce that the Democratic Party obviously no longer represents your vision for the country. That you regret not lending Your support to Bernie, when it mattered. That you "Didn't know what you were thinking" withholding your Super Delegates "When Sanders had just carried your state by 13 points!" That the Democratic Party, unfortunately, has long been corrupted and that you are, starting now, openly and actively! seeking others who are interested in forming a new (progressive) party (articulate your policy positions here).

Stand up! Turn around! Walk away!

Or stay in the party and fall into obscurity. Join Russ Feingold in the unemployment line and consider it a once noble career.
_________________________________________

"We shall be waiting for your answer; the decision rests with you."

(Klaatu: The Day the Earth Stood Still, 1951)
 
 
+1 # newell 2017-03-19 14:49
Gee-whiz--I wonder why Sanders is putting so much effort into the Democratic Party. Please list all the elections third party candidates have won?
 
 
+15 # discus 2017-03-18 11:35
Preferring HRC to Bernie would be analogous
to preferring the Bitch of Buchenwald to
FDR
 
 
+32 # librarian1984 2017-03-18 11:44
THANK YOU, Trevor Timm. I already like you.

The Politico article cited quotes SC's last Democrap governor as saying 'The more liberal base .. makes it dicey. That certainly presents an opportunity for candidates WHO WANT TO MAKE A POINT RATHER THAN WIN ELECTIONS.' (emphasis mine)

Are they REALLY that idiotic, or are they just willing to appear that way? There is plenty of data to back up the advantage of adopting a progressive agenda.

The article goes on to say that establishment Dems are worried about the prospect of 'grueling primaries or policy litmus tests'. Bingo! GET USED TO THE IDEA!

This from a party that hasn't practiced a 50-state strategy since Dean left the DNC, that just writes off rural areas and southern states without a care. In the last election hundreds of counties didn't even have a DP challenger.

We already know Obama is planning to work against progressives at the state level in upcoming elections, and the DNC transition team of 20+ members has ONE Sanders supporter!

GA House minority leader said 'My hope is Our Revolution .. will understand that purity to a progressive ideal doesn't (necessarily) mean purity in service of the community.' Huh?

But the attitude, while ubiquitous, is not universal. The article says some party chairs and leaders are embracing the Sanders wing, and Justice Democrats have 70 candidates they're mentoring so far.

How can anyone defend the DP? They deserve the coming rout.
 
 
+31 # solartopia.org 2017-03-18 12:30
the corporate demon-crats were happier to elect trump to president than bernie to vice president.

the problem in this country is the democratic party, which the clintons sold to wall street.
 
 
0 # Caliban 2017-03-18 13:27
My memory isn't what it used to be, but it tells me that Bernie was not interested in the vice-presidency in 2016.

Anybody with better info, please correct me.
 
 
+15 # Texas Aggie 2017-03-18 17:11
Whether he was interested or not is irrelevant. The point of the statement is that the neoliberals running the Democratic party opposed him at every turn and are quite happy to work with drumpf when it suits their goals Hint - Their goals are not at all progressive.
 
 
+4 # RLF 2017-03-19 05:49
The Neo-Libs are just Repulicans that don't want to take the blame!
 
 
-2 # ericlipps 2017-03-19 09:04
Oh, please. "Progressives" here were cheering Trump on; one moron even gushed after the election that Trump had "saved the world" from Hillary.
 
 
+24 # librarian1984 2017-03-18 13:05
An election night poll conducted by Democracy Corps on behalf of the Roosevelt Institute found that voters wanted 'an economic policy message that favored bold action over the messages they heard from Hillary Clinton and President Obama, which focused on national unity and INCREMENTAL progress'. (emphasis mine)

The survey also found that while economic concerns were core to Trump voters, Clinton did not succeed in getting her economic message across.

http://rooseveltinstitute.org/poll-rewrite-rules-winning-economic-message-voters-didnt-hear/

The sellout corporate DP establishment is the problem -- and they'd better join us or get out of the way -- and that includes Obama. I don't see progressives rising up by the millions only to be shut down by the same old crew that DOESN'T WIN elections.

The total wipeout of Democrats from state and national legislatures and executive offices can be traced in no small part to Obama, who sucked up DNC funds and starved state party offices, a president who often didn't bother to communicate with Americans, even when he had a good message, and who often didn't have a good message.

My guess is people resent someone who gives them hope and then yanks it away more than someone who talks straight. (Trump will have the same problem.)

The SAME people cannot be allowed to run the 2018 and 2020 elections.

Check out Justice Democrats, Brand New Congress and Our Revolution. Let's get rid of DINOs.
 
 
-32 # mblockhart 2017-03-18 13:15
Surely Republicans and Trumpsters and Russians alike must love to read this divisive and erroneous nonsense.
 
 
+10 # Texas Aggie 2017-03-18 17:16
The divisiveness you mention is on the part of the DNC neocons and, like the electoral losses at all levels, can be laid right at their feet. They were the ones who follow the Rahm dictum that liberals need to toe the neoliberal line and forget about people in general. So don't criticize this article for pointing out where the problem lies.
 
 
+6 # librarian1984 2017-03-18 23:57
You're SO right! Let's unify .. behind Bernie Sanders, the most popular politician in DC. That's the logical thing to do, right?

Behind the guy who has the support of the young and who can free us from that filthy Wall Street lucre. That's what you mean, right?
 
 
+31 # mediasavvy 2017-03-18 13:42
Sanders is right, the Democratic leadership would rather have first class tickets on the Titanic than to win an election by acting like New Deal Democrats, instead of the elitist, neoliberal swine that they are.

Sadly, these miscreants think they can sleaze back into office by just complaining about Trump.

But here's the rub: 27% voted for Trump. 28% voted for Clinton. 3% voted third party and 41% didn't vote.

Those last two groups are the margin of victory for any election going forward. But they won't be browbeaten into voting for garbage. You want their vote?

Earn it.
 
 
+27 # shulie 2017-03-18 13:46
The cry among Democrats is that we don't know who we are anymore. And there's Bernie, standing there with a list of passionate beliefs as long as your arm that could answer that question for us.
It isn't enough to be against Trump, or Trump's policies, or Trump's cabinet. We have to be FOR some things, and we have to sell those somethings to the voters.
So let the millennials go to work indeed, but not on primarying candidates who are not sufficiently against Trump but candidates who are sufficiently FOR the issues that Bernie has been shouting about.
 
 
+19 # reiverpacific 2017-03-18 13:49
The Democrats are now officially "The Wanker's Party". And it's making them blind!
 
 
+3 # Texas Aggie 2017-03-18 17:18
Very good!
 
 
+9 # djnova50 2017-03-18 15:53
I heard Jimmy Dore quote Bernie Sanders regarding the Democrats would go down with the Titanic as long as they had first class seats.

I'm not so sure that they would do that. I think it was Ron Placone who responded that he thought that the Democrats would rush to the lifeboats and make sure they had seats on the lifeboat before they'd let anybody else on.

What do the Democrats stand for, anyway? The new head of the DNC, Tom Perez, can't even give a straight answer.

One of the first things Tom Perez supported after he was elected DNC chair was to continue to allow corporate money to influence the Democrats policy.

If Bernie Sanders runs for President in 2020, I will vote for him if he runs as an Independent. I understand why he ran as a Democrat in 2016. As an Independent, people just would not get to know him they way they did when he ran as a Democrat. Take a look at Jill Stein. The more the people heard her message, the more they liked her. But, Bernie's already had a chance to get his message out there. His message doesn't need to change; but, he could run as an Independent. After all, he is the Independent Senator from Vermont.
 
 
-1 # ronnewmexico 2017-03-18 16:46
Really???

"Really that is the problem we are confronting."

Good luck with that declining viewership thing.
 
 
+8 # virtualaudio 2017-03-18 17:57
Spot on article! With a few exceptions.
Yesterday I saw some vid of a town hall in Iowa with Jodi Earnst - everyone was chanting at her 'Medicare For All'!! At a Republican town hall no less.
Sanders has obviously penetrated into the consciousness of millennials, and some older people.. and I think Trump's wholesale adaptation of the most extreme Repub right wing policies are bringing the cultural choice (Federal Social Services vs Libertarian Free Market) into stark relief, as people throughout America realize he conned them.
My main reservation is that few if any Dems in congress have the credibility Sanders has. Even if you don't agree with Bernie, you sense he is honest. Perhaps some Dems in the power structure realize this, even if only subconsciously, and that makes it easier to justify ignoring Bernie and his ideas, however perilous a tactic that may be. Hell, if Howard Dean can sell out, who can you trust? And Trump will end up creating a cultural zeitgeist of 'pitchforks for the lot' when the full weight of his duplicity sinks in across the political & cultural spectrum.
We can only hope that another genuine & charismatic Dem leader emerges and moves the party (Warren? She is more articulate, but perhaps not as progressive across the board) - or that Bernie discovers the fountain of youth.
 
 
+12 # Moxa 2017-03-18 17:59
This is the perfect time for Bernie to start a new party. He could do it for two reasons: the country is extremely dissatisfied with the two parties we have, and Bernie is so very popular and trusted. The stars have not positioned themselves like this in a very long time. Please sign the petition at draftbernie.org.

Why should we have to fight the Democrats, who despise us, when we could get the old Bernie excitement back with a new party?
 
 
+3 # librarian1984 2017-03-19 00:09
I am done with the feckless Democrats, but there's room for people who want to make the effort as long as they're transparent so we know they haven't sold out.

It makes sense for Sanders to use his position and committee seats for now. But if the DP starts clotheslining progressives in the primaries .. he should lead the progressives and Independents and workers to a new party, like Moses.

I wish his parents could see how much he is loved and admired. They did good. The moment he and his brother shared at the convention was quite moving and sweet.
 
 
-9 # ericlipps 2017-03-19 08:44
If "nearly everyone loves Bernie," how did he lose the Democratic primaries? And DON'T say "massive fraud," since even Sen. Sanders has publicly rejected that claim. Those who insist on it he lost the popular election because three million illegal immigrants voted for Hillary.
 
 
+2 # heartofnests 2017-03-20 06:16
The thing we should work on is getting the Independent Party candidates having status for eligibility in the primaries. That would wipe the Democratic socialites off the map—worthless pond scum, the lot of them! And Hillary, please don't start campaigning again—you are a 1, 2, 3 strikes you're out politician. Scram!
 
 
-1 # newell 2017-03-20 12:42
Seems everyone at RSN is divorcing the Democratic Party. But Bernie is not. So what about his idea to get involved in local politics. You can run on in the Cumquat Party or Birthday Party for all Bernie cares---but get involved. And when you do vote in 2020 don't vote for a third party or we'll get 4 more years of Trump. And if you want to brag about how you voted your conscious in 2016 and gave us Trump because Hillary is just as bad as Trump---let's hear it. Tell us about Trump's/Clinton 's stance on climate change, the environment, the poor, public education, healthcare, the Supreme Court and how great this racist is. The lessor of two evils was a reality then and it is today and it will be in 2020.
 
 
0 # librarian1984 2017-03-20 23:22
Let's flip that around. We are NOT going to vote for corporate Dems -- so if the DP decides they actually want our votes this time around, THEY will accommodate US.

They will follow Sanders and a progressive agenda.

Everybody talks about 'holding their feet to the fire' -- What do you think that means? You put pressure on them, you don't capitulate twenty months before the election!
 

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