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Moore writes: "The ACA has never been more popular and you can see it at town halls across the country."

Rep. Paul Ryan. (photo: Getty Images)
Rep. Paul Ryan. (photo: Getty Images)


Republicans Are Still Lying About Obamacare and Americans Aren't Having It

By Jack Moore, GQ

12 February 17

 

The ACA has never been more popular and you can see it at town halls across the country.

or years, one of the dogmas of the Republican party was that Obamacare needed to be repealed. Forget for a second that many of the most controversial sections of Obamacare (like the individual mandate) began their life as ideas from the Republican party; Republicans have spent the years since the ACA was passed spreading lies about the bill. Paul Ryan has said that it's bankrupting Medicare, when in fact the truth is just the opposite. This comes from FactCheck.org.

As for Ryan’s claim that Obamacare had worsened Medicare’s financing, that’s not the case, either. In fact, the law both expanded Medicare funding—adding a 0.9 percent tax on earnings above $200,000 for single taxpayers or $250,000 for married couples—and cut the growth of future spending. Additional revenue and savings actually extend the life of the trust fund. The trustees’ 2010 report estimated that the ACA had added 12 years to the life of the Part A trust fund.

That's right! Literally the exact opposite is true. The ACA has PROLONGED Medicare's life. But the worst of the lies that Republicans have trotted out is the trusty old "Death Panels.", or the idea that a government panel would decide if elderly people weren't worthy of care anymore. (It's funny how Obamacare has now been in place for years, and yet there have been no death panels. It's almost like it was never true at all. Oh right, that's because it wasn't even a little bit.)

Well, that's not stopping some GOP officials from trotting that idea out in the debate over the potential repeal of Obamacare, and this time Americans aren't buying that shit. Take for instance this amazing moment from a town hall in Florida when local Republican official Bill Akins tried to use "Death Panels" as an argument for the repeal of a law that gives 20 million people healthcare. The reaction? Angrier than you can imagine! We're talking angrier than Donald Trump is every time he looks at Sean Spicer levels of anger.

And then the guy had the gall to be offended by being called a liar for, well, lying about something that has been debunked over and over again SINCE 2009! That's eight solid years of debunking and this guy still is trying to sell this shit.

Americans are done with the same old tricks from the same old snake oil salesmen. This is what an effective resistance looks like. Show up at town halls. Make your voices heard. Let them politicians know that there's a reason why Obamacare is more popular today than it has ever been before.


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+12 # mashiguo 2017-02-12 16:32
Republicans are always lying.
Now they are caught in their own lies, but in fact it is a win-win situation for them.

Either they destroy Obamacare, which is their own invention, or they put the rest of us in the uncomfortable position of having to defined a massive corporate give-away to the health insurance industry.

Meanwhile, they get the best of both worlds and can indulge their native racism by smearing hatred over their own plan because a black democrat pushed it through.

Win/win for the republicans and lose/lose for everyone else.

Who says america ain't great?

Progressives are going to have to stop bringing soap bubbles to a tank battle. The other side is playing for keeps, and we are whining about popularity? Time to wake up.
 
 
+17 # CDMR 2017-02-12 17:22
This is good. Repulicans opposed Obamacare for two very bad reasons:

1. republicans wanted to make Obama's signature legislation a failure or seem like a failure,

2. republicans hate poor people and simply do not think they deserve healthcare or foodstamps or any kind of social support at all.

Most of these republicans like Ryan also claim to be Christians. Ryan is a catholic and a Randian. One cannot be both. they are two opposite philosophies. They each revile the other. To me, Ryan is a Randian and he uses Calthoicism as a campaign front, just as he talks about smaller government and lower taxes.

"Americans are done with the same old tricks from the same old snake oil salesmen. This is what an effective resistance looks like. Show up at town halls. Make your voices heard. "

Yup. We've been sick of these hypocritical snake oil vendors for a very long time.
 
 
+9 # Jaax88 2017-02-12 23:34
All the GOP arguments for better government like lower taxes will improve the economy, global warming is a hoax and to do something about it is a waste of taxpayers' money and more need to be viewed as lies by the wealthy and GOP. No reason to trust them.
 
 
+9 # PeacefulGarden 2017-02-13 01:46
My best guess here is that they will not stop lying. What they will do is start fabricating town hall meetings where they show "people" agreeing with them.

I hope CNN doesn't believe the bullshit, and yep, Fox news will roll out the red carpets for the bullshit, in fact they may even stage, direct and write the drama for the GOP.
 
 
+3 # sean1303 2017-02-14 02:12
CNN was already "spinning" the BS in the first video: The male anchor alluded that it was "Democrats and Progressives" invading a "Republican Town Hall". First off, aren't "town halls" supposed to be for all constituents, regardless of party affiliation? Second, why the assumption that these were not Republicans who sat politely by, probably for an hour before this, before reacting to the obvious lie and continued defense of the lie.
 
 
+3 # vitobonespur 2017-02-13 02:00
You're either a liar or you're simply as dumb as an overcooked pot roast. Six of one, a half-dozen of the other.
 
 
+9 # joejamchicago 2017-02-13 04:44
The Democrats, for decades, have had a lock on stupidity. The Act should have been called the "Comprehensive Care for All Americans" Act, NOT the "Affordable Care Act." Because Democrats believe we are all part of the same American family, the ACA spreads the costs around so that ALL are covered. The rich and superrich can still fly to Switzerland to their private clinics if they don't want to wait an extra week for a procedure. The rest of us actually get to live, not die!
 
 
+9 # vt143 2017-02-13 07:28
It IS heartening that some segments of America are seeing through the lies but the Republicans are still trying: it's a tactic that works.
What I find most disturbing is that in a recent survey of 2000 people, over 30% thought that Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act were two distinct plans (As in, "I really want Obamacare repealed but I'm glad I have the ACA"). WOW!! And many of these people used their "hatred" of Obamacare to vote for Trump. Now you see why politicians keep lying: works pretty damn well.
 
 
+11 # maverita 2017-02-13 08:11
My local politicians do not do town hall meetings. Now I know why.
 
 
-22 # lnason@umassd.edu 2017-02-13 08:14
The ACA is still favored by fewer than half of all Americans. No one has seen the promised cost improvements let alone the $2500 per year in savings that President Obama cited. And millions of Americans have lost the healthcare plans they liked and the doctors they trusted. Many people getting taxpayer subsidies are well-to-do or even wealthy since there is no asset test for getting subsidies -- we thus have poor Americans subsidizing wealthy Americans under the ACA rules. Jobs have been lost -- 27,000 due to the medical device tax alone according to government studies. There is plenty to be unhappy about with the ACA and many Americans remain unhappy with the law.

Lee Nason
New Bedford, Massachusetts
 
 
+14 # Bourbaki 2017-02-13 10:18
Lee,

I for one have seen tremendous savings and I feel my healthcare is actually better than the Kaiser I had before when I had to negotiate all by myself as a small business owner.

Could you please refrain from your broad generalizations . "No one has seen....... is in face the exact opposite of my experience with the ACA.

Bart Dickens
 
 
+4 # MidwestDick 2017-02-13 10:32
This is a strange comment to add to an article about some conservative lying about the ACA and being pilloried for it.
Is red your favorite color, and you just like seeing it?
 
 
+6 # reiverpacific 2017-02-13 10:58
Quoting lnason@umassd.edu:
The ACA is still favored by fewer than half of all Americans. No one has seen the promised cost improvements let alone the $2500 per year in savings that President Obama cited. And millions of Americans have lost the healthcare plans they liked and the doctors they trusted. Many people getting taxpayer subsidies are well-to-do or even wealthy since there is no asset test for getting subsidies -- we thus have poor Americans subsidizing wealthy Americans under the ACA rules. Jobs have been lost -- 27,000 due to the medical device tax alone according to government studies. There is plenty to be unhappy about with the ACA and many Americans remain unhappy with the law.

Lee Nason
New Bedford, Massachusetts


So; what's YOUR suggestion for an improved alternative.
You're being your usual obtuse self.
My alternative improvement; UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE!!!!
 
 
0 # sean1303 2017-02-14 02:14
wow, I wish there were no income verifications.. . did you just pull this 'ALTERNATIVE FACT' out of your nether regions?
 
 
+1 # awen 2017-02-13 17:58
That arrogant jackass called his constituents children - and he meant it as an insult. Time for a recall.
 
 
0 # Sisko24 2017-02-14 14:41
Yes, I noticed him calling those constituents 'children' as well. It shows he considers himself the adult in the room. How condescending of him! Maybe they're the adults and he's the child?
 

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