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Excerpt: "The election of 2016 may well have been stolen - or to use Donald Trump's oft-repeated phrase - 'rigged,' and nobody in the media seems willing to discuss it."

Voters cast their ballots. (photo: Getty)
Voters cast their ballots. (photo: Getty)


A Massive Election-Rigging Scandal Gave Trump the White House. But the Media Has Ignored It.

By Thom Hartmann and Richard Greene, Alternet

12 January 17

 

In 27 states, a program called the Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck suppressed and purged minority votes

he election of 2016 may well have been stolen — or to use Donald Trump’s oft-repeated phrase — “rigged,” and nobody in the media seems willing to discuss it.

The rigging was a pretty simple process, in fact: in 27 Republican-controlled states (including critical swing states) hundreds of thousands (possibly millions) of people showed up to vote, but were mysteriously blocked from voting for allegedly being registered with the intent to vote in multiple states.

Greg Palast, an award-winning investigative journalist, writes a stinging piece in  Rolling Stone magazine (August 2016 edition), predicting that the presidential election had already been decided: “The GOP’s Stealth War Against Voters.” He also wrote and produced a brilliant documentary on this exact subject that was released well before the election, titled The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.

He said a program called the Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck had been quietly put together in Kansas and was being used by Republican secretaries of state in 27 states to suppress and purge African American, Asian and Hispanic votes in what would almost certainly be the swing states of the 2016 election.

Crosscheck was started by Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach back in 2007 under the guise of combating so-called voter fraud. In the ultimate thumb in the eye to the American voter, the state where Crosscheck started was the only state to refuse to participate in a New York Times review of voter fraud in the 2016 election, which found that, basically, there wasn’t any fraud at the level of individual voters. Turns out, according to Palast, that a total of 7 million voters—including up to 344,000 in Pennsylvania, 589,000 in North Carolina and up to 449,000 in Michigan (based on available Crosscheck data from 2014)—may have been denied the right to have their votes counted under this little known but enormously potent Crosscheck program.

Yes, that’s way more than enough votes to swing the 2016 election to Hillary Clinton and the Democrats. But no one seems to care.

Not Hillary Clinton, not the DNC, not the New York Times, not the Washington Post, not even MSNBC. In fact, on November 26, MSNBC Host Joy Reid ended her interview of Greg Palast by saying, “I wish more people would listen to what you have to say.”

But he was never asked back, by Joy or anyone else at MSNBC.

Why?

Why wouldn’t the media and lawyers swoop in to every swing state and demand that every single purged, provisional or uncounted vote either be counted or verified to be illegitimate?

Why is it more relevant to focus on a crazed and completely unsubstantiated and untrue allegation about 3 million “illegal aliens” voting, but not a claim by a fellow journalist that 7 million American citizens weren’t allowed to have their votes counted?

Yes, Hillary was insistent that we must accept the results of the election, but doesn’t that require legitimate, verified or verifiable results? A coach who questions a call on the field is not challenging the system, he just wants to make sure the result is accurate.

So maybe investigative journalist Greg Palast is completely wrong. Completely inaccurate. Maybe there weren’t 7 million voters who were at risk of being excluded, with millions of them being handed “placebo” ballots (provisional ballots) that almost never get opened or counted. Maybe it’s only a million or two citizens. The problem is that the Republican secretaries of state are refusing to say, and the press has dropped the topic.

What we do know is that there is a program called Crosscheck implemented in 27 states that serves to disqualify voters who are not qualified to vote, trying to vote multiple times, or trying to defraud the electoral system. And if Palast’s reporting (and interview of Kobach) is accurate, that system is primarily being used to disenfranchise large numbers of African American, Hispanic and Asian voters.

In 2000, the United States Supreme Court wrongly ruled that America was not allowed to count the votes that were cast in Florida that determined the presidency of the United States.

In 2016, the Democratic Party and the American media and American people have wrongly decided that America should not count the votes that were notcast in Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and so many other places that determined the presidency of the United States.

The DNC and the press need to get on this story now.

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+100 # Magginkat 2017-01-12 10:58
"The DNC and the press need to get on this story now."
Good luck with that. I have been sharing the link & a blurb about Greg Palast's investigation for several months. So for the third time in recent years we have unqualified, self-serving frauds to be president...Bus h & trumP. The only difference is that trumP makes Bush look like a saint in comparison. Crosscheck is a fraud, designed to keep We the People from voting. That's it's only purpose.
 
 
-15 # CL38 2017-01-12 14:54
I don't in any way support what Trump and his campaign did, but my guess is their reasoning was something like, "If Hillary and the DNC can do it (to Sanders), why shouldn't we?
 
 
+55 # Skippydelic 2017-01-12 16:28
Except that the Republicans were doing it LONG before that 2016 election!

It goes back at LEAST to 2000, where the election was stolen from Al Gore by the Republicans!
 
 
+17 # CL38 2017-01-12 19:54
Yes, the GOP engaged in election theft for a long time, including during the George Bush years (both Sr. and Jr.). That said, I don't support Democrats doing it too, because the GOP did!!

Hillary Clinton and the DNC stole this election. Let's face that first. Let's deal with the corruption at the core of politics and elections that exists in the US, by BOTH Democrats, AS WELL as by the GOP.
 
 
+11 # California Neal 2017-01-12 23:53
The most urgent issue is to confront the issue of voter suppression in Republican-cont rolled states. This goes along with the fact of Trump's large loss in the popular vote on November 8--despite the unpopularity of the Democratic candidate--to establish Trump's lack of a mandate. This proves the fundamental illegitimacy of his government by the billionaires, generals and reactionaries, of and for the aforementioned. As George Lakoff wrote after the election, Democrats should characterize Trump as a minority president.

Trump's lack of a mandate goes hand in hand with his party's continuing efforts to--and successes in--stealing the presidency, accomplished by the suppression of minority voting, the primary civil rights era of our time.

As Shaun King writes, Democrats and progressives are in large part failing to present the powerful and unified protests needed at this disastrous and critical moment.

Meanwhile, back at the Democratic Party ranch, progressives must fight to insure that Democratic primaries--and the operations of the Democratic National Committee--are conducted following the principles of fundamental fairness and one voter, one vote. Never again should it be possible to undermine accurate claims against the GOP by saying the Dems did it too.
 
 
+8 # Radscal 2017-01-14 17:45
Had the DNC not rigged the primary, we most likely would have a President-elect Sanders right now.

There will be no "unified protests" with the corporate/Wall Street Democrats and actual progressives. They have their own goals, and they are not the same as progressives' goals.
 
 
+5 # laborequalswealth 2017-01-15 08:32
Exactly. As far as I'm concerned, there is only ONE reason for "President Trump": Hillary Clinton.

I was in Philly to protest the DNC. The protesters were corralled in FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT PARK. The delegates were in WELLS FARGO CENTER.

Need one say more?
 
 
0 # Cassandra2012 2017-01-13 15:45
Quoting CL38:
Yes, the GOP engaged in election theft for a long time, including during the George Bush years (both Sr. and Jr.). That said, I don't support Democrats doing it too, because the GOP did!!

Hillary Clinton and the DNC stole this election. Let's face that first. Let's deal with the corruption at the core of politics and elections that exists in the US, by BOTH Democrats, AS WELL as by the GOP.

Face it yes, but not 'first' First' we expose the dirty dealings that have been going on for years with the Teathuglican!
 
 
+3 # John Puma 2017-01-15 02:40
To Cassandra2012:

The Dem had over a decade to deal with the blatant election fraud of the GOP in the 2000 election (and after).

It did nothing to end the practices but INSTEAD adopted similar tactics in its own primaries.

It, but mostly we, will now pay the price.
 
 
0 # Skyelav 2017-01-15 22:45
Quoting CL38:
I don't in any way support what Trump and his campaign did, but my guess is their reasoning was something like, "If Hillary and the DNC can do it (to Sanders), why shouldn't we?

The other thing that pops into my head is where did Hillary get all those votes when she couldn't fill even a small bakery on the campaign trail. So if one side is stuffing, the other side probably is too. We know by the primaries that the DNC rolled votes to their fav. What's the point of acusing one side or the other anyway. We all know voting in the USA is pathetically easy to fix. What we need is a policing body like a federal election policing body. Then hon hackable paper ballots and armed guards to keep watch so errant boxes don't spring up days later. We also need laws that provide regs on re-counts, not just some judge doesn't like it.. etc etc etc.
 
 
-11 # CL38 2017-01-12 14:57
NEVER a Trump supporter, by my guess. Their reasoning went something like this: "If Hillary and the DNC could cheat to win (over Sanders), why shouldn't we?"
 
 
+65 # JCM 2017-01-12 11:12
Thank you Scott Galindez for this! We need to wake this country up to the republican cheating or the democrats will find it harder and harder to win due to the Interstate Crosschecking System, Gerrymandering, and voter disenfranchisem ent. With the republicans in near complete control now, they could create legislation to further cheat the system and we would have little recourse to stop them. Certainly, the new attorney general won't do anything about it. What is it going to take to wake this country up? We had more votes in the Senate and the House and almost 3 million more for President. The country is being ruled by the minority and my guess is even they won't be to happy about what's coming if they’re paying any attention.
 
 
0 # HowardMH 2017-01-12 12:49
https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?.rand=fh3t9b0m1jnjb#3183654843

Pick just one or two or maybe all of them. Great articles by Daily KOS on the Orange Headed Monster. The fun has yet to really get started, and it is going to be really good.
 
 
+18 # Jaax88 2017-01-12 14:39
Sorry there Howard, but "fun" is not the word I would use. "Disaster" is what is happening.
 
 
-6 # Robbee 2017-01-12 15:02
Quoting Jaax88:
Sorry there Howard, but "fun" is not the word I would use. "Disaster" is what is happening.

- are you not entertained?

"The election of 2016 may well have been stolen - or to use Donald Trump's oft-repeated phrase - 'rigged,' and nobody in the media seems willing to discuss it."

than repugs stealing elections - rump's antics are so much more entertaining
 
 
0 # HowardMH 2017-01-13 12:36
I agree Jaax88.

The fun will be watching the people take down Trump, by forcing the Congress to Impeach the Orange Headed Monster and with a little fines convict him of treason along the way.
 
 
+11 # CL38 2017-01-12 19:57
The DNC ignored the people's voice and choice and this is the RESULT!

I want Democrats to take responsibility for their own cheating and revamp the party to represent the 99%!
 
 
+21 # norman markowitz 2017-01-12 11:15
They do but they won't. We need to send it out far and wide
 
 
+55 # Old Uncle Dave 2017-01-12 11:17
If the DNC and their supporters in the msm had not rigged the primary for Hillary, we'd be awaiting the inauguration of Bernie Sanders.
 
 
+5 # Jaax88 2017-01-12 14:48
How is that going to help WE the people now?
 
 
+12 # CL38 2017-01-12 20:16
Corruption has to be faced and exposed to prevent it repeating in the future.

GET INVOLVED! Make a difference.
 
 
-2 # Robbee 2017-01-12 16:44
Quoting Old Uncle Dave:
If the DNC and their supporters in the msm had not rigged the primary for Hillary, we'd be awaiting the inauguration of Bernie Sanders.

- dems "rigged" the primaries by requiring voters to register as "dem" - that was too much of a strain - registering to vote in a party's primary - for too many of bernie's so-called "supporters" - so bernie lost

when repugs refuse to count 7 million votes - dave - that's altogether a different kind of "rigging!" - not enabled by the prospective voter him/herself - sorry!
 
 
+36 # MDSolomon 2017-01-12 11:25
The red and blue parties are both owned and operated by the Anglo-Euro-Amer ican banking cartel and its corporations, which also controls the media, polling organizations, and electronic voting machines.

Voter suppression, gerrymandering, registration switching, electronic voting machine hacking, etc., are used to manipulate the candidacies and elections of persons from both parties.

For example, at least 12 states were hacked for Clinton in the blue party primary, and all the swing states were hacked for Trump in the general election. http://coloradopublicbanking.blogspot.com/2016/11/the-2016-selection.html

The problem with this analysis by Thom Hartmann and Richard Greene is that it does not recognize the power structure for what it is. http://coloradopublicbanking.blogspot.com/2014/05/the-view-from-top-of-power-pyramid.html
 
 
+33 # Jim Rocket 2017-01-12 11:25
The DNC's complacency on this is simply bizarre. The coach's analogy apt. What coach doesn't push for video replay on the tough calls? I can only guess that they are happy with their payoffs.
 
 
+4 # CL38 2017-01-12 20:18
My guess is that they calling the kettle black when their hands are also dirty.
 
 
+60 # Linda 2017-01-12 11:30
Let's go back to the primary where election fraud first started.Let's not forget how many disenfranchised Bernie supporters were denied having their votes count in AZ ,NY as well as other states! Let's go back to the caucuses that threw out the rules in order to make Hillary the winner . Let's go back to those coin tosses ,the votes left uncounted in CA and even after it was proven that Bernie Sanders won that state nothing was done to change the outcome ! Nothing about the 2016 primary or general election was decided by the voters and down deep inside we all know that, so why are we talking about Trump and the Russians stealing the general election and not one word about the entire 2016 election heist ? Why aren't we talking about a flawed election system with no checks and balances and why are we using the same voting machines that were proven to have been hacked in previous elections ? Why aren't we demanding that voting machines be replaced with paper ballots , the end of electoral college and superdelegates ? We should be reforming the entire voting system to a one person one vote verifiable system of voting !
 
 
+31 # soularddave 2017-01-12 13:11
Your list is quite complete, but I would add that the egregious system of gerrymandering by the party in power within each state, should be included. Usually, there's no substantive oversight of the practice or the result.

Please read the other article here, today.
 
 
+5 # California Neal 2017-01-13 00:02
Linda, or anyone else: I voted for Bernie in the CA primary, and always suspected that we were prevented from knowing the full outcome of that primary. I would be grateful for any citations of where it was established that Bernie actually won.
 
 
+26 # johnborksales 2017-01-12 11:33
It'sdefinatey a program that needs to head to the Supreme Court to determine it's legitimacy and methodology. As Greg Palast previously reported votes have been eliminated across states only because two people in 2 different states had the same name like "Charles Johnson". without looking deeper at date of birth, info, etc.
 
 
+20 # Emmanuel Goldstein 2017-01-12 13:10
Problem is, the Supreme Court will once again have a 5-4 conservative tilt and therefore will not "determine the legitimacy" of Crosscheck or any other GOP scheme.
 
 
-1 # Cassandra2012 2017-01-13 15:50
Quoting Emmanuel Goldstein:
Problem is, the Supreme Court will once again have a 5-4 conservative tilt and therefore will not "determine the legitimacy" of Crosscheck or any other GOP scheme.

Not if they block any 'conservative' [ read: rightwing radical extremist] attempt appointments!
 
 
+2 # Jaax88 2017-01-12 23:56
There is a case now in the federal court system that may have a good chance to get to the Supreme Court with good scientific facts. That could get the court to rule on the constitutionali ty of gerrymandering
as is now hobbling our election system. This
was just on a Internet news site.
 
 
+9 # Tim Leonard 2017-01-12 11:41
As a Conservative, I would be willing to support an "impeach Trump movement" on two conditions:
1. Full public investigation & exposure of the "fake news" purveyors AND legitimate news media:
AND....
2. Indictment and trial of HRC criminal activities for perjury to Congress, sales of weapons to US enemies; 'pay for play' access sales, .... dare I go on at this location ??!!
 
 
+40 # Dust 2017-01-12 13:17
Sure. But why stop with HRC? You need to include Bush Jr, Cheney and Rumsfeld for war crimes, perjury, and weapons sales. Add Reagan and Bill in there as well.
 
 
+4 # mighead 2017-01-13 11:34
I would add CIA-Clapper and all other government lies to Congress to your 2nd point...includi ng the Pentagon and including all CIA payments to media and governments worldwide.
This Wikipedia article says the CIA media operation ended years ago...but according to a German ex-magazine editor...it was ongoing in all the recent years that he was running his magazine. I've forgotten his name and the name of his book...but it should be an easy search. The government 'ownership' of the global MSM is well enough known here that there's not much need to repeat it all here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
 
 
+1 # Cassandra2012 2017-01-13 15:52
Quoting mighead:
I would add CIA-Clapper and all other government lies to Congress to your 2nd point...including the Pentagon and including all CIA payments to media and governments worldwide.
This Wikipedia article says the CIA media operation ended years ago...but according to a German ex-magazine editor...it was ongoing in all the recent years that he was running his magazine. I've forgotten his name and the name of his book...but it should be an easy search. The government 'ownership' of the global MSM is well enough known here that there's not much need to repeat it all here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

And obviously, Comey since he violated the Hatch Act!
 
 
-22 # punditalia 2017-01-12 12:05
Clearly, Russian efforts to corrupt our elections go much deeper than reported by the CIA. Putin's agents just strong-armed Kris Kobach and other good men in those twenty-seven GOP-run states into doing their dirty work. More sanctions!
 
 
+2 # California Neal 2017-01-13 00:19
I suppose this is an attempt at sarcasm. However, even Trump now admits the Russian hacking. He just pretends the intelligence chiefs said the Russian intervention did not affect the outcome of the election, when in fact the intelligence agencies did not attempt to evaluate that issue.
 
 
-37 # lnason@umassd.edu 2017-01-12 12:05
This article accurately outlines Palast's charge but Palast's charge is largely baseless. For instance, he considers registration purges in some states to be voter suppression but ignores even more rigorous voter purges in other states (e.g., Massachusetts) to be fine. Many county registries are not maintained and that should indeed be corrected systematically (and not just before elections as has been done in many of the states Palast criticizes), but this does not constitute fraud and it certainly is not a racist ploy since the purgers have no way of knowing the race of the voters being purged in most states.

Democrats don't challenge the laws since the existing system of leaving dead and relocated and non-citizen voters on the registry often benefits them.

It would be useful if people on both sides of the aisle actually learned more about voter fraud and how it is perpetrated and developed a consistent strategy for preventing dead and relocated and non-citizens from voting but no one seems interested except a few (often misguided) folks in conservative circles.

Lee Nason
New Bedford, Massachusetts
 
 
+28 # IAMMe 2017-01-12 13:04
Democrats don't challenge the laws since the existing system of leaving dead and relocated and non-citizen voters on the registry often benefits them.

It would be useful if people on both sides of the aisle actually learned more about voter fraud and how it is perpetrated and developed a consistent strategy for preventing dead and relocated and non-citizens from voting but no one seems interested except a few (often misguided) folks in conservative circles.

Lee Nason
New Bedford, Massachusetts

"Voter Fraud" is largely non-existent. It is a made up cry from Republicans so that they have an excuse to rob black, brown and Asian people of voting. There were 6 known cases one year. Voter disenfranchisem ent is a much bigger and REAL problem.
 
 
+21 # Dust 2017-01-12 13:20
Please cite a decent, legitimate, confirmed, and generally truthful citation for this statement:

"Democrats don't challenge the laws since the existing system of leaving dead and relocated and non-citizen voters on the registry often benefits them."

You won't, I know, because: 1) It doesn't exist; and 2) You never support your assertions; and 3) You post and move on, leaving us with the result of the moving finger and yourself with a triumphant sense of accomplishment, having disbursed Truth to the mortals without ever having to defend or support it.

"It would be useful if people on both sides of the aisle actually learned more about voter fraud and how it is perpetrated and developed a consistent strategy for preventing dead and relocated and non-citizens from voting but no one seems interested.."

Physician, heal thyself.
 
 
+22 # RMF 2017-01-12 13:22
Crosscheck can filter effectively by statistical tagging; a lot of mischief can be done simply with name, address, race, and other personal data. You actually don't need to know that much in order to profile a subject.

Moreover there is very little documented evidence of voter fraud in the US. So ironically, as an enforcement measure against nonexistent voter fraud, Crosscheck helps to advance the GOP election fraud activity.
 
 
0 # Radscal 2017-01-14 18:03
I, too had believed that "voter fraud" was a non-existent problem. Until, that is I watched the Veritas videos in which the 2 heads of HRC SuperPacs bragged about how they committed mass voter fraud, and had been doing so for decades.

And both of those guys "resigned" after the videos were released, just as the DNC chair and 4 other leaders were removed from office, and the replacement acting DNC Chair was fired from CNN after the leaks were published.

After all, LBJ won his first election when, after the official count had him losing by a handful of votes, a box of ballots was "discovered" that just happened to all be for LBJ.

So, I've had to come to realize that large-scale voter fraud, just like Republican election fraud is a real thing.
 
 
+26 # Annette Saint John Lawrence 2017-01-12 12:11
Hillary isn't going o do anything because any investigation will show how down and dirty she went to win. She isn't going to say anything about Trump because he will seek revenge. The media is not a real media anymore. It is run by corporate and he anchors have their marching orders to what they can or can not say. No matter which way you look, the bottom line is the government is corrupt. We the people allowed this got happen by non engagement.
 
 
+19 # mighead 2017-01-12 12:19
IMO:
"The Massive-Electio n-Rigging" that gave Trump the White House was the MASSIVE ELECTION RIGGING that the DNC did in the DNC PRIMARIES!!!

They intentionally got rid of Bernie...
AND GAVE US A GOP GOVERNMENT!!!

Thanks a WHOLE BUNCH DNC!!!
and all of your rigging technologists!! !
 
 
+12 # Annette Saint John Lawrence 2017-01-12 12:23
Hillary doesn't say anything because any investigation will show how down & dirty she went to win. Also is she says anything about Trump he will go for revenge. The media is a bad joke. They are not real. They are owned by the company store and do their bidding. Without some exceptional investigative journalists we would know nothing.Then we have "We the people " who are complicit by their non engagement. Heaven forbid they don't want to be disturbed from their comfort zone. Well mark my words, the boulder is coming into your shoes and you'll be tearing your hair out. No sympathy here.
 
 
+12 # Radscal 2017-01-12 19:40
I've done voter registration drives and found that most people who don't vote make that choice, not because they are lazy or uninterested, but because they figured out the duopoly won't serve their interests.

Unfortunately, they have bought into the narrative that voting for alternatives is a waste of time.
 
 
+20 # IAMMe 2017-01-12 13:01
So, let's not discuss this and whether Hillary is to blame or DNC or whatever - let's do what we HAVE to do: contact the media and push them. That's what Republicans do. They ACT. It's a waste of time to JUST blame. Let's go! Get the emails and letters and phone calls going to MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC etc. Things won't change otherwise.
 
 
+14 # mmc 2017-01-12 13:39
If this is true, then we need to have a real revolution, where the thieving politicians are physically removed from office.
 
 
+21 # RLS 2017-01-12 14:25
Voter suppression has been a factor in distorting the political landscape. But it’s also the voting machines, stupid! These machines, tabulators, and electronic databases are owned by extreme right wing companies. They count the votes on “proprietary” software. No other democracy allows private companies to count the votes in secret.
 
 
+1 # Cassandra2012 2017-01-13 15:55
Quoting RLS:
Voter suppression has been a factor in distorting the political landscape. But it’s also the voting machines, stupid! These machines, tabulators, and electronic databases are owned by extreme right wing companies. They count the votes on “proprietary” software. No other democracy allows private companies to count the votes in secret.

Yes, remember DIEBOLD 'Promised' Florida to Jeb for his brother......
 
 
+3 # pro54 2017-01-12 19:20
"A Massive Election-Riggin g Scandal Gave Trump the White House. But the Media Has Ignored It."

Why will they not ignore it when there is a sexier story; the Russians did it.
 
 
-8 # Kropotkinesque 2017-01-12 19:51
The "rigging" was NOT Republican rigging done for Trump. It was was Democrat rigging done for Hillary.

See my comments posted at

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/40926-the-republican-sabotage-of-the-vote-recounts-in-michigan-and-wisconsin

AND

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/40853-focus-recount-killed-to-cover-up-75000-ballots-never-counted
 
 
+4 # ronnewmexico 2017-01-13 09:48
Well in a sense yes.

The dem primary was clearly rigged against Bernie in a similiar fashion. Why are the cotents of the emails never mentioned.l
 
 
-1 # JCM 2017-01-13 15:53
More fake news from Russian hacker.
 
 
+4 # ronnewmexico 2017-01-13 09:38
The electoral college itself prohibits the notion of one person one vote of equal force.

And historically as the initial document the constitution versed blacks as being only part worth of white human this is indeed consistent. Time to wake up really, you are sold a bill of goods which is not true.
 
 
+1 # Cassandra2012 2017-01-13 15:56
And the effect is to give a voter in a sparsely populated state such s Montana roughly 5 votes to one in other more urbanized states!
 
 
+1 # Radscal 2017-01-14 18:06
Yep. My CA votes for the President and Senate are worth 1/16 that of a voter in Wyoming.
 
 
+3 # vt143 2017-01-14 14:43
I'll tell you while this issue is being ignored...it's the same reason that when I see a piece on this topic that I often pass it by. IT'S THAT BIG. This is an issue at the very foundation of what we THINK America is. These people who wrap themselves in the flag and the constitution. Who weave the Fairy Tale of America. The land of the free, the home of the brave. To believe these stories of vote rigging is to accept that the idea and promise of America IS a fairy tale. That this shining city on the hill is no different from all the countries we look down our noses at. That this is a country run by a few for the benefit of a few. And despite the preaching of our elected officials, they will do ANYTHING to keep power, even subverting the very foundation of our country. ONE PERSON ONE VOTE. To accept this is to know that we are living a fraud. So we look away, we go on with our lives, and hope against hope that this cannot possibly be true because to believe it and to live with ourselves, we must realize that we simply do not have a democracy. That’s how big this is.
 
 
0 # Jaax88 2017-01-15 22:43
There is a case now in the federal court system that may have a good chance to get to the Supreme Court with good scientific facts. That could get the court to rule on the constitutionali ty of gerrymandering
as is now hobbling our election system. This
was just on a Internet news site.
 

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