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Kucinich writes: "The most consequential statement by Secretary Clinton in last night's debate was her pronouncement that a no-fly zone over Syria could 'save lives and hasten the end of the conflict,' that a no-fly zone would provide 'safe zones on the ground' was in 'the best interests of the people on the ground in Syria' and would 'help us with our fight against ISIS.'"

Dennis Kucinich. (photo: Facebook)
Dennis Kucinich. (photo: Facebook)


War or Peace?

By Dennis Kucinich, World Beyond War

22 October 16

 

he most consequential statement by Secretary Clinton in last night�s debate was her pronouncement that a no-fly zone over Syria could �save lives and hasten the end of the conflict,� that a no-fly zone would provide �safe zones on the ground� was in �the best interests of the people on the ground in Syria� and would �help us with our fight against ISIS.�

It would do none of the above. A US attempt to impose a no-fly zone in Syria would, as Secretary Clinton once cautioned a Goldman Sachs audience, �kill a lot of Syrians,� and, according to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Dunford, lead to a war with Russia. If the US has not been invited into a country to establish a �no-fly zone� such an action is, in fact, an invasion, an act of war.

It is abundantly clear from our dark alliance with Saudi Arabia and our conduct in support of jihadists in Syria that our current leaders have learned nothing from Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, and Libya as we prepare to plunge head-long into the abyss of a world war.

Our international relations are built upon lies to promote regime changes, the fantasy of a unipolar world ruled by America, and a blank check for the national security state.

As others prepare for war, we must prepare for peace. We must answer the mindless call to arms with a thoughtful, soulful call to resist the coming build up for war. A new, resolute peace movement must arise, become visible and challenge those who would make war inevitable.

We must not wait until the Inauguration to begin to build a new peace movement in America.

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+85 # giraffee2012 2011-08-13 22:39
I live under the Constitution and no right-wingNUT can make their bible the "rule of law"

With jobs floating off-shore, banks ripping us, and 2+ wars that suck up $$ -- all these GOP/TP can talk about is abortion, gay marriages, and even forbidding porn (or so I heard on Letterman last night) -- What a joke!

SEPARATE these religious ideologies from my rights as a Citizen of USA --- Are there really more people willing to go down (no work, unaffordable food, gas, energy, etc) on the basis of stopping people from abortions or marrying a person of same sex (can I marry my cat? - we're the same sex too) --

Now that corporations are persons (to buy our elections) can I marry a corporation? I'll have to consult with Rick Perry first? Or Romney? He was all over TV telling an older person "Corporations are people" --- this GOP/TP situation is almost funny except - it will kill our middle class and thus our democracy.

Register & get Mail-in Ballots -- so you can vote in 2012 - no matter how the Corporations try to screw with our elections (They have warned us that they will)
 
 
+46 # Barbara K 2011-08-14 07:12
Giraffee, they also screw with mail-in ballots. They hide the Dem ones. They did that in Ohio. They found 2 closets full, and the trunk of a car full of uncounted Dem ballots in '04. I live in Michigan, and at that time lived just over the border with Toledo, OH. Saw it all on the news, and the newspapers were full of the info. We need to get rid of the machines they are using and get some that cannot be rigged.
 
 
+21 # Hors-D-whores 2011-08-14 16:55
That is a funny image of a single person getting a license, (I hope somebody tries) marrying a corporation. There the bride or groom would stand, with an arm wrapped around an arm of the CEO of a corporation, (Watch out could be the wrong sex) and then ALL other people within the corporation, with interlocked arms, ALL happily getting married. Is that what Romney had in mind after all?

As for these fundamentalists , nut cases, they sure don't sound too much unlike fundamentalist Talibans. Perry is GWBush redux. God help us.:-O
 
 
+13 # giraffee2012 2011-08-15 01:52
I've decided "we" are giving too much time to these religious rhetoric -- which distracts from the real issues (jobs, for example + banks going ballistic with foreclosures, etc.) - so every time there's an article about abortion - gay rights - too much debt -- whatever the distraction from our problems -- we must respond with "ahh but ... and then talk about the real issues" - Maybe the Dems in Congress should be told to do the same. The TP / GOP who have signed with Norquist (as an excuse not to reform the tax code) -- are committing a crime - because they took an oath and it ain't to Norquist --

We and the Dems in Congress dn't have to play their game just bc they keep repeating themselves --

Ignore and repeat OUR mantra -- they people of USA want jobs and if a company goes off shore -- we want a tariff on the goods they sell here - etc

I remember hearing when very young that when you talk to a crazy person - you CAN go to their level if you "talk at/with them" --- and that is what we are doing.
I want more articles on "how to fix the problem of JOBS" -- and challenging the Supremes decison about "personhood" -- that is not a First Amendment right as the Supremes justified their 2010 decision. Scalia/Thomas: I'm talking to YOU.

Who is funding Norquist? Al Quaeda?

VOTE 2012.
 
 
+55 # wwway 2011-08-13 23:03
Cosidering the Republican Party went to bed with the religious right in the early 1980's so we can all expect a spectical to pulpit pounding campaign speaches and rhetoric that will make the culture war rhetoric sound tame.
 
 
+75 # Debbie Grey 2011-08-13 23:05
"In Texas, they engage in elaborate ceremonies involving branding irons, plumb lines and stakes inscribed with biblical passages driven into the earth of every Texas county."

Sorcery and Witchcraft, plain and simple, sez I. [And yet they elaborately condemn the ceremonialism of the Catholic Church.]
 
 
+10 # Wolfchen 2011-08-14 10:32
 
 
+3 # giraffee2012 2011-08-14 13:21
Wolfchen - If your post is meant as sarcasm - you did well. But until the last sentence - it was unclear!
 
 
0 # Wolfchen 2011-08-17 14:51
'twas done for dramatic effect, sweetkins...and the devil made me do it.
 
 
+3 # PaganPriestess 2011-08-14 18:19
Not sorcery or witchcraft-rath er it seems reminiscent of the ceremonial FreeMasons in some ways-but they are not sorcerers or witches either. The Texans with their plumb lines and stakes OTOH, might be geomancers!
 
 
+20 # maheanuu 2011-08-13 23:36
If there is anything I know it is the xtian fundie nuts that are running around out there. From the time I was old enough to realize that Religion was a totalitarian form of control, I used to have a belt taken to me every Sunday Morning to force me to go to church. That Spare The Rod Spoil The Child didn't work and I have the scars to prove it. I despise xtians with a white hot hate. The are the lowest forms of life on the planet. I personally would like to see them taxed out of existance and their so called holy books put in museums as a study in ignorance and superstition. I doubt that will happen though. The trailer trash out there who is ignorant to the extreme would not allow it... Perhaps we could give the heartland their own country and make sure that none of the maggots managed to squirm into the blue states..... Lots of ideas on how to combat this tyranny but most of them are bloody.
 
 
+50 # teineitalia 2011-08-13 23:49
Why does Texas spawn some of the worst weirdos in America?

Is it too late to let them secede from the Union?
 
 
+13 # giraffee2012 2011-08-14 13:33
 
 
0 # giraffee2012 2011-08-14 13:43
Quoting teineitalia:
Why does Texas spawn some of the worst weirdos in America?

Is it too late to let them secede from the Union?


Interesting opinion on Gov Rick Perry -- & comments on Constitutionali ty -- and apparently there is no "path to secede"

http://timpanogos.wordpress.com/2009/04/18/no-texas-cannot-secede-no-texas-cant-split-itself/
 
 
+51 # angelfish 2011-08-14 00:10
If this Right-Wing Religious Lunacy isn't nipped in the bud, we're headed for deep trouble! These Loons are the equivalents of Al Queda and the Taliban, imposing THEIR religious imprimatur on America! We were founded on Freedom OF and FROM religion. There is, as there SHOULD be, separation of Church and State. WHY would they march us back to the days of discrimination and accusation (see: WITCH HUNT) if one doesn't march Goose-step in line with THEIR definition of America? We of ALL Faiths have a home here in what USED to be the REFUGE of the World! God gave us FREE WILL to choose our own life's path. Having the Government say WHO and WHAT to believe in is a "Brave New World" in which I don't want to live! They want EVERYONE to look, talk, and believe as THEY do! That's NOT what we EVER will stand for in this Country! Beware, the "ME FIRSTers" with their Fascist leanings toward Dictatorship is imminent if we don't educate ourselves to what their TRUE agenda is for America! Saying they're Christian doesn't mean they are! Most of them probably couldn't give an accurate definition of one if they had the Bible open in FRONT of them! Americans don't need to be Christians, there are thousands of wonderful Americans of EVERY faith and ethnicity, including NON-Believers, who have made our Country a Beacon for diversity of Religion, Thought, and Intellect! Vote accordingly in 2012!
 
 
+17 # stonecutter 2011-08-14 10:20
Once in while someone sums it up with virtual perfection. Perfectly said, Angelfish.
 
 
+11 # Terrapin 2011-08-14 11:49
 
 
+39 # chinaski 2011-08-14 00:47
There's no better way to drown out the voice of God than to be continuously speaking for God. Baby-souled Christians, forever putting words in the mouth of God. God said this, God wants that, God intends this, God has a special plan for you. Every sentence starts with God. Resulting in a continuous stream of pious white-noise that effectively drowns out the slightest possibility of self-awareness. Conscious thought replaced with a high pressure stream of funnel-fed dogma.
Sam Kinison had a funny bit wherein God would wake up Pat Robertson at 3 in the morning, "Pat...PAT, wake up, it's God" "Yes Lord?" "I want you to go outside into your driveway and check your tire pressure."
Perhaps the solution here is just a matter of programming. "Psst....psst.. .hey...Rick...R ICK...it's God...I want you to go home, open up a beer and sit in front of your television set and wait for further instructions."
 
 
+3 # tahoevalleylines 2011-08-14 01:43
And T-Bone warns of Oilfield depletion bringing on Federal Executive Emergency Orders for Motor fuel allocation by mid-decade. Trains will be back!

But we were talking prophecy and to stay on topic, lets try some quantum physics: see "Isabel Piczek Image Formation". Throw in some Mormons and Muslims, stir well...
 
 
+13 # CragJensen 2011-08-14 02:12
These sorts of people have been at this for a long time. Yet - they only get just so far and then fizzle out.
If they ever do control, however, you can kiss freedom (as we know it) goodbye.
In fact - you might just have to kiss your life goodbye if you don't agree with their theological viewpoint if they ever really did cease control of our government.

Still - I wouldn't worry too much about these idiots just yet. Just know that they exist and may, at some point in history, present a real problem to those of us who do not "think" the way they do.
 
 
+25 # Isar 2011-08-14 02:25
The struggle to keep separation of church and state will always be at the forefront of American politics. However, those of us who believe that separation is important to our democracy's survival are losing out to the Mega-churches who brain wash their members and tell them how to vote. Also, don't forget the huge amounts of money these Mega-Preachers can give to any campaign. Rick Perry is a perfect Mega-Church candidate. He's handsome, "presidential" and invokes the name of God and Jesus whenever possible. As our conservative "friends" lean more toward the conservative Christian political philosophy, so will their candidates be more like Rick Perry. He knows a good "gig" when he sees one. He's an opportunist filling a hole that needs to be filled by the Republican right-wing Christian fanatics. However, we must always fight these extremists. They are dangerous to themselves, and certainly to the moderate Christian population, as well as the other religious communities...a s well as the growing atheist population that quite simply wants religion out of poltics. But then again, our President ends every speech with "God Bless the American People and the United States of America." Using "God" is always a safe bet, right?
 
 
+13 # minniemouse 2011-08-14 05:40
I don't care if it rains or freezes,
Long as I've got my plastic Jesus,
Strapped to the dashboard of my car.
 
 
+18 # Rita Walpole Ague 2011-08-14 05:44
Greed and power addiction is, tragic and then some, not confined to the wealthiest of the wealthy in this country and throughout the world today. I call them our villainiare ruler

Sad beyond belief, this group's use of a man/God named Jesus, also known as the Prince of Peace, to justify their power control grab. Sorry, but Jesus is the Holy One who booted the money grabbers out of the temple, and preached his sermon on the mount, clearly directing us to love more, care more, give more and share more. Does not jive with ripping away the the programs (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaide) that keep us all from suffering and starving, sick, shelterless, etc.

Then, recall this same Jesus turning down the devil's offer to give him control of all the world and all in it? Recall also the man/God clearly condemning hatred and violation of those who walk a different path sexually (i.e. let those among you without sin be the first to throw a rock).

What this article describes is anything but holiness - this type of spiritual masturbation for power seeking purposes is anything but good and Godly. And two of the 'worst governors in the U.S. today' - Perry of Texas and Scott of Arizona - jumping onboard says it all.

Our Prince of Peace in step with 'Hate' and 'Hate Groups'? Duh!
 
 
+12 # Glen 2011-08-14 06:27
The concerns of many of us, for decades, has not only been the insistent take over by so called Christians, but WHICH Christians. Considering the number of churches and the squabble over which tenets are correct and what god really is/means one cannot but be aware of the possibility of the most militant among them, not to mention downright terroristic, would take the podium in D.C.

These groups are proving the case for worry. Whether they win out at this time or not, they are creating chaos, which has worked nicely in wrecking this country.
 
 
+29 # Barbara K 2011-08-14 06:27
He has screwed up Texas so much that they can't wait to get rid of him. We certainly don't need him screwing up the country any more than they've already done. The GOP was once a fairly respectable party,then they teamed up with the crazy teabaggers and have become as nutty as they are. They don't want to help America, they want to destroy America, especially the citizens; by taking away the programs we paid for like Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid. They got theirs, now they want ours.
NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN if you are not a Billionaire.
 
 
+19 # humanmancalvin 2011-08-14 06:39
Be afraid, be very afraid.
 
 
+5 # Merschrod 2011-08-14 07:06
Ah, but you have missed the point - the movement that Perry is tapping into is a VAST network of true believers. The opposition that you cited is, of course there, but it is the small mainstream of organized religion and politics.

Read the Spider and the Starfish. The Apostalic Movement is based on beliefs and not structure. It is quite Protestant in the sense of diverse charasmatic leaders. Key slogans or words ring bells that supposedly cansolve the ills.

This is a serious movement that conservative elites can tap to keep the focus on evil government - but watch those slogans about repentenent corporations and wealth. They are potentially "progresive" thoughts.
 
 
+3 # Peacedragon 2011-08-14 07:24
Holy pancakes!
 
 
+7 # hoffhort 2011-08-14 07:38
This is why RSN is worth contributing to. This is a great article, really important. I plan to save it and refer back to it as things go from crazy to insane to bonkers. Thank you, RSN!
 
 
+20 # erogers 2011-08-14 08:09
Eight years of one crazy Texan was quite enough. No one will tell me what deity to worship, or what prayer is proper or what church to attend. This guy is nothing but a religious zealot who also has every major corporation solidly in his pockets.
Why can't people think beyond their bibles and realize just what our Founding Fathers were attempting to form. Perry is clueless with regards the foundations of this country.
 
 
+14 # Ed Hutchinson 2011-08-14 08:35
Somebody should test the water in Texas. What are they drinking?
 
 
+3 # foxtrottango 2011-08-14 13:31
It's got to be the lead in the water. There is no other explanationb.
 
 
+16 # in deo veritas 2011-08-14 08:35
Seperation of church and state is fundamental to the Constitution. I would like to see an amendment prohibiting any and all clergy from holding public office. If these loonies really followed their bible they would know that you cannot serve both God and mammon. Mammon is the corporate fascist state that the enemies of America (Wall Street, etc.) want and what the Republican Party has fallen in servitude to. NO REAL American is going to let these charlatans force their brand of "religion" on them and I am one of those. They must be resisted by all means at hand. The voice they hear is not that of God- guess whose?
 
 
+11 # in deo veritas 2011-08-14 08:40
There are plenty of good Americans in Texas who denounce Perry and his harmful policies while in office. One can hope that they will arise and not only prevent him from getting in the White House but run him out of Austin. I hear that the Bushes hate him so he can't seek political asylum in Dallas. There are other asylums more suited to deal with him and his psychophants but NOT at the taxpayers' expense.
 
 
+13 # GeeRob 2011-08-14 10:36
The 47% of Texans who did not vote for Perry despise him.
I look forward to seeing him in a debate, something he refused to do in 2010. I want these topics brought up:
Cameron Todd Willingham execution
Texas' Emerging Technology Fund
The "purchasing" and "selling" of his home in Horseshoe Bay
The debacle of his Trans Texas Corridor
I can't explain or understand the ignorance of the 53% who voted for him in 2010. But Perry is politically saavy. He's no radical fundamentalist; he's actually worse. It's the votes and adoration he wants. Beware this man.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2011-08-15 18:26
Actually he got 39% of vote, you all were so busy wanting to show change must be made, he slinked thru
 
 
0 # karenvista 2011-08-17 20:03
Quoting GeeRob:
I can't explain or understand the ignorance of the 53% who voted for him in 2010.

Actually he only won the last election with 39% of the votes. There was another Tea Party backed candidate who made the mistake of saying that there should be a thorough investigation of 9/11 so she only got a few percent of the votes.
 
 
+2 # karenvista 2011-08-17 20:07
Perry is known in Texas as "the Ricktator."

Included in the list of "accomplishment s" of Gov. Rick Perry is his appointment to the Texas State Finance Commission of William White, a "Senior Executive" of the largest payday loan and pawnshop company in the state, CashAmerica.

From the Texas Finance Commission website:

"Since June of 2004, White has served as a board member on the Finance Commission of Texas, which is the oversight and policymaking body for the Texas Department of Banking, Texas Department of Savings and Mortgage Lending, and the Office of Consumer Credit Commissioner."

In March of 2009, he was named Chairman of the Commission by the Governor of Texas (Perry).


http://www.fc.state.tx.us/fcmember.htm

http://www.fc.state.tx.us/memberbios/white.htm
 
 
+2 # karenvista 2011-08-17 20:09
And, make note of Perry's budget balancing by robbing the poor! Texas has a program called LITE UP TEXAS which imposes $1. fee on electric bills in all deregulated parts of the state which we are told goes to help the poor and indigent elderly pay their electricity bills.

Instead of passing it all on to the needy Texans who are dying in their houses in this, our hottest year in history, the State of Texas steals the vast majority of the money from
the poor but still defrauds the citizens by saying it is collecting money to help our poor neighbors.

As the Houston Chronicle says in the following editorial, "There's a special place for people who behave like that. And it's a hot one.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/7686419.html#ixzz1Uwr5nS00

People need to know what kind of "good Christian" Rick Perry really is!
 
 
+2 # karenvista 2011-08-17 19:56
Perry cut the mental health services in Texas so I don't think we have an asylum to send him to anymore. That's why we're exporting our sociopaths now.
 
 
+5 # Diane Johnson 2011-08-14 09:36
whats that line in revelations(?) that says there will be in the end times, many false proghets?
 
 
+9 # Chris Connolly 2011-08-14 10:13
How can we turn this tide of zealotry in our government when our elections are more tainted every day by money equals speech and big money owned voting machines. The 200 years of Holy Inquisition was absolutely not about spirituality, morality and righteousness. It was not about helping those who cannot help themselves, ie seniors, sick, poor. It was about self-righteousn ess, self-indulgence and self-aggrandize ment. Sound familiar?
 
 
+17 # ABen 2011-08-14 10:17
As one who was raised in a Christian tradition (Friends) and has read the Bible several times and in several different forms (yes, there are differing versions of this holy book), I find what Perry and the fear-mongers he associates with are doing offensive on many levels. One thing that this group of authoritarian thugs is NOT is Christian!
 
 
+13 # wfalco 2011-08-14 10:21
The religious fanatics could gain control of government with Perry leading the way.One factor is a rallying of their masses. These folks do well in an authoriatarian structure, such as their fundamentalist church leaders. They will follow their leaders and do what they are told. There is no rational/critic al thinking mechanism to prevent them from doing otherwise.In a sense they have no internal "checks and balances."

A second factor that might allow this to occur is voter apathy. Obama has angered the leftists(rightf ully so) by not fighting back strongly enough against the current coup of hatred that he has faced from Tea Party backed Republicans. Certainly a critical error by Obama.So he may lose votes by failure to show up or votes for a third party candidate.

Lastly are the so called "independents." These are the people that the Obama Admin has most feared. Obama has attempted to be the great appeaser-all intended to show himself as the ultimate compromiser. The handlers (with Obama's agreement)inten ded to create this mythical African-America n for all people.The fear being he might seem too liberal for "mainstream America." A man undefinable with the exception of his willingness to agree to all viewpoints. He has lost these independents-pe ople with no core belief system. Now we may all lose.
 
 
+8 # pwarren 2011-08-14 10:25
These creatures are straight out of the Malleous Malaficarum. Remember that period in time of about 300 or so years when this book was on the every pulput and magistraights desk. It was the Law. The neo-reconstruct ions are followers of the contents of this book. 12th century, flatworlders and belivers in tyrany, every one of them. The founders clipped them pretty well and I don't think power ever forgets a slap like that. These creatures have been after this nations government structure ever since, and they never lack for money now with the debt as money policy and it's mighty immortal paper person, with citizens rights. The perfect get out of jail card for it's adherants.
 
 
+16 # Keith Barrand 2011-08-14 10:40
These folks are way more frightening to me than the Taliban or Al Queda.
 
 
+13 # Midwestgeezer 2011-08-14 10:48
Funny, I was just talkin' to "God" the other day and he looked me square in the eye and told me that these right-wing folks in this here Aposlolic Movement are full of shit. Actually, what I heard was bleep of bleep but he mouthed the words so I knew what he meant. Now I ask you, in HIS name, would "God" lie to me? Think about it...
 
 
+6 # CragJensen 2011-08-14 10:58
A couple of years ago I produced a video concerning the topic of whether this is a "Christian nation" or not. And while the video is entertaining as well as informative - it's the viewers comments listed below the video that really tell the story about how Americans feel about this video - i.e. the fact that the Founding Fathers never meant for the United States to be a "Christian nation."
If you have a spare minute or two - check it out: A Christian Nation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eQazNUNO2w
Thanks...
 
 
+13 # stonecutter 2011-08-14 11:02
The NAR is, at its core, a cult. The infamous People's Temple congregants transported themselves back in 1978 from San Francisco to a jungle commune in Guyana, only to end up in tragic mass suicide (More than 900 "drank the Kool Aid") and murder. They were "Christians" too, mostly poor and minority.

The NAR, and cult of "Dominionism" that drives it, are mostly White Pentacostal "Christians". These extreme cultists want to exercise "dominion" (read: CONTROL) over ALL aspects of American life, the so-called "Seven Mountains" (just google it, and make the hair on the back of your neck stand up).

Perry may just be a cynical hack; but if he's piggy-backing on these very disturbed people, of which Palin and Bachmann and their ilk are leading "prayer warriors", he's as toxic as Fukishima.

How the NAR has avoided more scrutiny so far is just another pernicious example of the rightward lurch of red-state media, the lack of investigative zeal, except for a handful of real journalists, and revelations that aren't broadcast by mass outlets and therefore receive limited exposure, let alone in-depth analysis.

A cult is a cult is a cult. This outfit is using the Bible and Jesus Christ to mask their warped conception of the U.S. and their totalitarian comfort-zone; Perry is doing us a favor by shedding light on this evil movement.
 
 
+13 # BishopAndrew 2011-08-14 11:29
It is clear that the warning that Jesus sounded about people claiming to be his followers in the gospels is very well founded! these are dangerous people and they are just as dangerous as the jihadists of other religions who want to rule in a theocratic nation with all the attending slaughters and genocide committed by such disciples of darkness. For sane folke it is enough to expose them for what they are but for the very gullible and easily threatened it is important to use the language they employ against them. They have been around for thousands of years generally claiming a religious ideology though not always, remember the Nazis and the Communists, and always surface in times of economic crisis.
 
 
+7 # Lulie 2011-08-14 11:49
It is truly amazing what people will do out of FEAR. It's also amazing how far other people will sink to take advantage of it.
 
 
+2 # jcadams 2011-08-14 12:42
God has been kind to the Democrats in the past week. God has given us both Michele Bachmann AND Rick Perry. We are truly blessed.
 
 
+6 # foxtrottango 2011-08-14 13:34
Both Bachmann and Perry are proof that evil arises from the ashes of the Dark Ages everyonce in a while.

...and the Republican Party gets to keep them! It's God's answer to the evils of mankind.

December 21, 2012, anyone?
 
 
+8 # David Starr 2011-08-14 13:42
Here we have yet more proof of an even more fanatical fringe of the Christian Right that, in all, appears willing to live in a second Dark Age, while trying to drag the rest of us with them. They are clinging to an antiquated past.

The religion itself historically appears to be rooted in blind faith and rigid abstractions, rather than actually relying on reason or logic, and thus is indeed a real kind of totalitarianism . Of course there are believers who use their obvious human capabilities to reason, unlike most of the fanatics. And they keep religion as a strictly private affair, as it should be.

Meanwhile, the fanatics, blinded by their zeal, claim that the U.S. is a Christian nation. This grossly contradicts the U.S. constitution and its founders. To paraphrase, e.g., a line in the constitution: Conress shall not establish a religion nor restrict the practice of one thereof. No mention of Christianity or any other religion is mentioned.
 
 
+14 # grannym 2011-08-14 16:35
I thought George Bush said God talked to HIM! Then why didn't God tell him how to prevent the 9/11 attacks? Why didn't God tell him how to respond better to Katrina? Why didn't God tell him how to prevent the economic collapse? ETC.

Now along comes another crazy and arrogant Texan and his handlers, proclaiming to be hearing God speaking to them.

HMMM!
 
 
+2 # karenvista 2011-08-17 20:46
Quoting grannym:
I thought George Bush said God talked to HIM! Then why didn't God tell him how to prevent the 9/11 attacks? Why didn't God tell him how to respond better to Katrina? Why didn't God tell him how to prevent the economic collapse? ETC.


Not that I believe that God talks to anyone but consider what you just said.

Bush and his corporate overlords profited from each one of those events both politically and especially economically. You'd almost think if they hadn't happened he would have planned them.

Remember, Katrina was NOT a natural disaster. It occurred because the Corps. of Engineers built a levee system that was plagued with flawed engineering and that the City of New Orleans had gone to court to try to prevent being constructed. The hurricane didn't destroy New Orleans, the collapsed levees did.

And when 80% of the city was underwater the Bush Administration didn't respond for 5 days. Then the privatization squad arrived and stole all the property they could. Oh, and then they made the entire school system charter schools, with vouchers.

Economic Collapse=Bailou ts for the "Too Big to Fail" Financial, Insurance (AIG) and Real Estate sectors.

9/11=Two unfunded wars for his Military/Indust rial friends and a whole new industry, the Homeland Security complex.
 
 
+10 # Mark Abbott 2011-08-14 21:28
I do believe those two pastors misunderstood what God told them -- Texas is the PROFIT State, not the Prophet State!

And Perry is indeed the instrument bringing about greater riches, literally, for the "blessed" -- i.e. the Haves.

Bless his heart (as they say in Texas and all over the former Confederacy when they want to politely say "I hope he withers").
 
 
+6 # Gurka 2011-08-15 01:57
The New Apostles have set themselves two important tasks: 1) To turn the USA into an intellectual banana republic and become the laughing stock of the Western world, and 2) To rewrite history, erasing parts of the Renaissance and the entire Age of Enlightenment.
Their minds and language heavily imbued with ideas of kingdoms and wars, show clearly who they are: the cruzaders and heralds of a proud new epoch: The Age of Gullibility.
 
 
+2 # KittatinyHawk 2011-08-15 18:32
You have to have brains to have an intellect..so that is not happening.
Must have and education to have used those brains, that ain't being shown live yet.
 
 
+11 # Eliz77 2011-08-15 17:01
Perry is America's whited sepulcher. He's not the only one. Several people and I, too, have been trying to alert the country about the danger from these "Christian/Tali ban" monsters determined to overthrow our government and turn this country into a Theocracy. W's coups moved us right along the path. Someone mentioned the machines -- in TN we worked very hard to put in machines that would scan a ballot and save it in a locked ballot box for back up if there were any questions about the vote. When the Republicans got into power they killed the bill that had been passed, and now we are doomed to vote with touch screen machines again.
 
 
+3 # midwegian 2011-08-15 20:11
Oh, man... what would Molly Ivins say about this?
 
 
+8 # midwegian 2011-08-15 20:24
I correct myself. Molly Ivins left many quotes appropriate to this situation. Probably the best: "Next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please pay attention." Molly, I miss you, girl!
 
 
+4 # fredboy 2011-08-16 11:47
A sick pup led by a sick group. The GOP best run him off.
 
 
+2 # MainLaw 2011-08-16 15:38
Is there a way to push rewind on history so that the north (ie, the US)can lose the civil war?
 

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