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Scahill writes: "A story published this week by the Daily Beast about the nine months Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine spent working as a volunteer in a Jesuit community in Honduras in 1980-1981 has been making the conservative rounds. The Beast's tabloid headline is a cheap exercise in red-baiting: 'Tim Kaine's Time with a Marxist Priest.'"

Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine. (photo: Justin Sullivan/Getty)
Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine. (photo: Justin Sullivan/Getty)


Tim Kaine, John Negroponte and the Priest Who Was Thrown From a Helicopter

By Jeremy Scahill, The Intercept

05 October 16

 

story published this week by the Daily Beast about the nine months Democratic vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine spent working as a volunteer in a Jesuit community in Honduras in 1980 and 1981 has been making the conservative rounds. The Beast’s tabloid headline is a cheap exercise in red-baiting: “Tim Kaine’s Time with a Marxist Priest.”

That priest, Fr. James Carney, was indeed a revolutionary and, as a practitioner of liberation theology in Latin America during a period marked by populist movements fighting against death squads and murderous regimes backed by the U.S., an avid student of Marxist theory.

After years spent among the poor and oppressed in Latin America, Carney renounced his U.S. citizenship and joined the armed guerrilla struggle against U.S.-backed death squads and governments. He also left the Jesuits because, he explained, the order would not condone his involvement in an armed struggle. Whatever one thinks of that decision, Carney sacrificed his privilege and status to join the people he was ministering to as a priest. In the eyes of the Reagan administration, that made him a terrorist. In the eyes of the peasants and revolutionaries Carney joined in struggle, he was a hero. (For a look at the roots of Jesuits joining indigenous struggle in Latin America, check out the film “The Mission.”)

The scandal that the Beast claims “may cause trouble” for Kaine is that he once met Fr. Carney, 35 years ago. The right-wing group Catholic Vote has done its best Joe McCarthy imitation on the issue. “That Kaine made the effort to seek out and spend time with Carney is troubling,” according to a memo published by the group with the headline “Tim Kaine’s Radical Roots in Honduras.” It claimed that “the Soviets created liberation theology to undermine the Church and advance the Soviet cause against the United States. In Honduras, the phony Marxist-tinged theology was planted to manipulate poor Catholics, instigate terrorism, and stir up a violent revolution in Honduras — then the key ally of the United States opposing Communism in the region.”

“There’s some serious questions here,” Catholic Vote’s spokesperson told the Beast, speaking about the one meeting Kaine had with Carney 35 years ago. “What was your relationship to this guy when you were down there? What did he teach you?”

What is entirely absent from Catholic Vote’s “history” is the context of what was happening in Latin America during the 1980s — particularly to Catholics. Archbishop Oscar Romero of El Salvador was assassinated by graduates of the U.S. Army School of the Americas as he performed mass. Catholic nuns and laywomen, including four from the U.S., were raped and murdered. Jesuit priests were executed by death squads. The U.S.-backed Honduran army’s secret police unit, Battalion 316, committed systematic massacres — all while John Negroponte was the U.S. ambassador to Honduras. Negroponte was very close to 316’s commander, Gen. Gustavo Álvarez Martínez, and met with him frequently.

Declassified cables from Negroponte’s time in Honduras reveal no evidence Negroponte ever expressed even a mild objection to Battalion 316’s systematic murders and human rights abuses. According to the National Security Archives: “The Honduran human rights ombudsman later found that more than 50 people disappeared at the hands of the military during those years. But Negroponte’s cables reflect no protest, or even discussion of these issues during his many meetings with Gen. Álvarez, his deputies and Honduran President Robert Suazo. Nor do the released cables contain any reporting to Washington on the human rights abuses that were taking place.”

And what became of Father Carney?

He was thrown from a helicopter in 1983. A whistleblower who deserted Battalion 316 reported that Carney “was executed by order of the battalion’s commander, Gen. Gustavo Álvarez Martínez, who along with several other members of 316 had received training in counterintelligence from U.S. forces at the School of the Americas.” The deserter also asserted that “Álvarez Martínez gave the order for Carney’s execution in the presence of a CIA officer, known as ‘Mister Mike.’” The Los Angeles Times reported that Negroponte failed to report a “U.S.-backed operation that resulted in the execution of nine prisoners and the disappearance of an American priest.” The year Carney was murdered, Negroponte praised Gen. Álvarez Martínez’s “dedication to democracy.”

Catholic Vote’s justification for Fr. Carney’s death: “Carney died during an invasion of Honduras with a group of approximately 100 fellow communist insurgents, trained by communists in Nicaragua and Cuba.” That is how Ronald Reagan and Negroponte preferred for these events to be publicly explained. That propaganda is necessary for Kaine’s meeting with Fr. Carney 35 years ago to be manufactured into a controversy.

John Negroponte, who went on to become George W. Bush’s director of national intelligence, has endorsed Kaine’s running mate, Hillary Clinton — a fact the campaign has proudly promoted. Perhaps that should be the focus of any scandal involving Fr. Carney and the Clinton campaign — and not some meeting Tim Kaine had as a law student three decades ago.

That may be difficult for Clinton. She engaged in the same kind of red baiting against Bernie Sanders over comments Sanders made about the Nicaraguan Sandinistas, who fought the Contra death squads passionately supported by Clinton’s endorser Negroponte.

Awkward.

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+47 # Activista 2016-10-05 14:04
I traveled in Central America in 1980 - respect Tim Kane activity - he sure witnessed horrors of Reagan's "contra" war.
And respect Hillary Clinton for choosing Kane as V.P.
That sick John Negroponte endorsed Hillary Clinton - sick, years of anti-Clinton propaganda is irrelevant -
http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/?p=30990
" Fox News has been a perpetual Clinton-bashing machine for years. They have turned the tragedy in Benghazi, Libya into a serial melodrama that never seems to end. Even though every investigation, including those conducted by Republicans in Congress, has found no wrongdoing by Clinton, President Obama, or any other government official, the obsession to cultivate a narrative that indicts Clinton for imaginary crimes remains in effect."
 
 
+47 # Activista 2016-10-05 21:38
www.nytimes.com/2016/09/03/us/politics/tim-kaine-honduras-jesuit.html
It also gave Mr. Kaine a new, darker view of his own country’s behavior. “It was a very politicizing experience for me because the U.S. was doing a lot of bad stuff,” he said. “It made me very angry. I mean I still feel it.”
....Instead, Mr. Kaine was worried that he was rushing through life. While at Harvard Law, he arranged to volunteer again in El Progreso.
He acted - lived his conscience - read, do not make sick ideological statement.
 
 
+24 # dipierro4 2016-10-05 22:26
What has been written about Sen. Kaine is encouraging, and I want to be hopeful. But so far, I see none of this in what he projects now. Not in his manner, or in the content of what he says. I don't see anything but a totally conventional, middle-of-the-r oad-on-every-is sue politician, almost a caricature of one, who has no convictions except those that were planted by consultants and focus groups, and no personality of his own. Maybe even more so than Ms. Clinton, if that is possible. It seems those things must have been written about another guy with the same name. I hope I am wrong, but watching him is really, really discouraging.
 
 
+25 # Activista 2016-10-05 23:52
I have been in Central America at the same time as Kaine was. My experience/refl ection were the same as his:
“It was a very politicizing experience for me because the U.S. was doing a lot of bad stuff,” he said. “It made me very angry. I mean I still feel it.”
trust me and trust him/his experience. He learned Spanish and is informed -
 
 
+33 # jdd 2016-10-06 05:43
Then there is the bigger issue of John Negroponte, who is backing Clinton, along with most of the CIA crowd. The same guy who organized death squads in Honduras, and then devised the "counterinsurge ncy" plan in Iraq (Anbar Awakening) to arm the Sunnis for religious warfare against the Shiites, leading to creation of ISIS. Now he is encouraging confrontation with China over the South China Sea. Part of the Hillary team from hell.
 
 
-6 # Activista 2016-10-06 14:09
"Part of the Hillary team from hell. John Negroponte - Republican?"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Negroponte
... Negroponte was one of 50 signatories of a statement concerning 2016 Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in which Trump was called "reckless" and stated that he would "put at risk our country’s national security and well-being.”
where did you get the LIE that Negroponte is "Part of the Hillary team from hell"
Please provide information, not propaganda/lies .
 
 
+6 # laborequalswealth 2016-10-07 15:24
Thanks - that's the best description I've heard of Kaine so far. He seems like a place-holder. Truly irrelevant and chosen mostly because he blends in with the furniture and won't upstage charisma-less Hillary. (Not that I think "charisma" should be given much weight in politics - tho it seems to matter the most.)
 
 
+3 # Skyelav 2016-10-08 15:04
Activista: Hillary is an employee of the very people who have taken over your pocketbook and plan to do whatever they want with your blood, sweat, and pocket book. That's the point. Her lawless past, beginning in Arizona, long before Whitewater, may never get her in jail. But you and yours are stupid to call the allegations false. If that were true then why didn't the same smear campaign happen to Obama, the most hated president of all by the right wing??? Probably because they couldn't find anything. Hello.
 
 
+3 # bmiluski 2016-10-08 16:58
Probably because the right wing has been hating Hillary for a lot longer. They've been smearing her ever since she continued to use her maiden name even though she was married. She refused to behave like their version of "the little lady". It threatened their paternalistic world view.
 
 
+26 # RMDC 2016-10-05 16:46
I doubt that Fr. Carney taught Kaine anything. I think anyone who has come in contact with Liberation Theologians in Latin America would not have swung around 180 degrees to become a supporter of US imperialism. He would have remained committed to social justice.

Probably a lot more about Kaine's time in Honduras will come over the next year or so. No one paid much attention to Obama's campaign autobiography until he became president. Then on close examination it was very clear that he was a CIA recruit in college and his career was managed by the CIA. Obama spent a year following college working for Business Consultants International. This looks similar to the time Kaine spent in Honduras, which was and still is crawling with CIA.

If he met Negroponte then, we would have a lot to be suspicious about.
 
 
+3 # Activista 2016-10-05 21:42
This looks similar to the time Kaine spent in Honduras ...
again sickness and hate - please read, learn, and then judge:
www.nytimes.com/2016/09/03/us/politics/tim-kaine-honduras-jesuit.html

What Tim Kaine Learned on His Mission Trip to Honduras
www.nationalreview.com/.../tim-kaine-catholic-faith-liberation-theolo...
National Review
1 day ago - Vice presidential candidate Tim Kaine is a Roman Catholic, and also a liberal Democrat—which has caused him to break publicly with the ...
 
 
-9 # Salburger 2016-10-06 05:54
the tin hat brigade is out with RMDC
 
 
+31 # PaulK 2016-10-05 21:06
The original Christianity was born under the thumb of Roman military rule, in conjunction with the usual type of wealthy local collaborators. Our word “zealot” comes from the Hebrew “zeal”, a long knife used to assassinate lone Roman soldiers at night. Roman governors were faced with constant guerrilla warfare from their first invasion in 63 BCE until Rome decided to exterminate every last Jew in Judea by 73 CE.

Within this context, Jesus and followers preached an active, nonviolent rebellion -- refusing to use Roman coins or Roman courts, making a mockery of certain Roman laws, causing riots to illustrate the corruption of the Jewish elite -- married with a strong push for Hebrew unity, plus some outreach to individual Roman citizens. The Roman governors saw little difference between nonviolent organizing and violent rebellion. Both types of activists were equally tortured to death in public. Occasionally nonviolent disciples such as Peter could be pulled from their discipline to acts of violence.

Christianity established a priesthood of volunteers willing to live and probably to die for their faith.

Archbishop Romero’s assassination on his altar should be seen as a man carrying out his original job. Father Carney went over to the modern zealots.

Senator Kaine? He seems to have gone over to the wealthy side.
 
 
+24 # lorenbliss 2016-10-06 02:02
@PaulK: One of the many reasons I can no longer call myself "Christian" is because of the extent to which Christianity has become a tool of capitalism, hence precisely what Marx eternally damned as "the opiate of the masses." But if I could, for what you said here I would give you 10, 100, even 1000 thumbs up. Thank you for reminding me of a poignant truth I too often ignore.
 
 
-6 # Activista 2016-10-06 14:26
Marx eternally damned as "the opiate of the masses."
it is pathetic to follow Marxist ideology/religi on for some - now after millions died because of 'Dictatorship of the Proletariat' - ideology.
Even in Russia the Communist Party has like 13% - "The Communist Party lost 50 seats, to 42 from 92" in the latest election ... Putin rules ...
 
 
-23 # 666 2016-10-06 05:14
Without taking the time to reply there are numerous errors of fact in the above post
 
 
+22 # Anonymot 2016-10-06 06:26
Well, take the time. Otherwise it's a non-comment.
 
 
+6 # jsluka 2016-10-06 14:20
"The beast" (666, the devil) would say that, wouldn't he (LOL).
 
 
+19 # RMDC 2016-10-06 07:43
PaulK -- but you are talking about the pre-Augustine and pre-Constantine Christianity and pre-Roman catholicism. Christianity moved its headquarters from Alexandria, Egypt, and from Syria/Lebanon to Rome where it joined up with the Roman Empire and because an imperial political and religious force. The so-called "decretals" fraudulently claimed to have been written by Emperor Constantine giving over Rome and the Roman Empire to the Christain Church and the Pope were the political blueprint for well more than 1800 years. In many ways, they are still.

St. Augustine is a really interesting guy, but I think he would be judged today as a Hitler-type or a psychopath. And yet he is really the "founder" of Christianity. I could add in a few more names of people just like him. Maybe St. Jerome.

The Christianity you are talking about really does not exist in the west. It is preserved more in the Eastern Orthodox faith. Strange that Eastern Orthodox christianity is so little discussed in the west and so generally distrusted.
 
 
+14 # DaveM 2016-10-05 21:43
"Politics is not an exact science" --Otto Von Bismarck.
 
 
+54 # Jim Rocket 2016-10-05 22:38
It claimed that “the Soviets created liberation theology to undermine the Church and advance the Soviet cause against the United States.

Liberation theology was started by that troublesome socialist by the name of Jesus. Not to be confused with the gun-toting businessman that Mike Pence worships.
 
 
+44 # JayaVII 2016-10-05 23:47
I'd never previously heard this story about Father Carney, the American Jesuit murdered by American-suppor ted Honduran death squads, apparently under the control of the CIA and the murderous fascist John Negroponte. Thank you, Mr. Scahill for bringing it back from the black hole of repressed national memory. It's an amazing tale and it deserves more room than this. As at least one other reader has noted, it is a crucifixion story for our time. People like this redeem religion from those like Catholic Voice, who bring dishonor to their so-called faith. You shall know the tree by its fruits, as somebody once said.
 
 
+36 # dipierro4 2016-10-06 00:55
What matters is whether, the next time Negroponte and his ilk -- like Victoria Nuland and the various other neocons surrounding Hillary -- want to do something really bad, whether Kaine will stand up and say: "Not. On. My. Watch." But nothing I've seen of Sen. Kaine this year indicates that he will, or even may.
 
 
+26 # John Puma 2016-10-06 04:05
Agreed. HRC may be vile but she is not so stupid as to pick a VP with even the merest taint of populist propensity.
 
 
+6 # RMDC 2016-10-06 07:45
dip -- don't hold your breath. It sounds more like Kanie was on Negroponte's side in Honduras, though there is no evidence they met, at least so far.
 
 
+4 # Activista 2016-10-06 14:37
Quoting RMDC:
dip -- don't hold your breath. It sounds more like Kanie was on Negroponte's side in Honduras, though there is no evidence they met, at least so far.

... RMDC ... PLEASE STOP THIS sick lies/propaganda.
Hera are the links:
www.nytimes.com/2016/09/03/us/politics/tim-kaine-honduras-jesuit.html
It also gave Mr. Kaine a new, darker view of his own country’s behavior. “It was a very politicizing experience for me because the U.S. was doing a lot of bad stuff,” he said. “It made me very angry. I mean I still feel it.”
....Instead, Mr. Kaine was worried that he was rushing through life. While at Harvard Law, he arranged to volunteer again in El Progreso.
Kaine acted - worked/lived his conscience - it was risky task to be helping poor in Central America under Reagan's Contra terror.
Murder of UCA scholars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_UCA_scholars
Wikipedia
The massacre of six Jesuit scholars/priest s, their housekeeper and her daughter took place ... The Pastoral Centre of José Simeón Cañas Central American University (UCA) in San Salvador ... After lieutenant Guerra gave the order to kill the priests, Fathers Ellacuria, Martín-Baró and Montes were shot and killed by private ...
 
 
+4 # lfeuille 2016-10-06 15:27
I think if he were so inclined, he never would have agree to be Hillary's running mate and Vice President if elected. He knows what he signed on for.

It is somewhat amusing to see the Hillary campaign being unfairly red-baited.
 
 
+31 # Navigatio di Brendani 2016-10-06 02:35
A few random observations: Tossing Viet Cong prisoners out of helos was SOP in 'Nam. 6 captured, 3 introduced to law of gravity, 3 willing to talk. This is why our Army only counted prisoners that actually arrived at an American base.

Hard to say who or what Kaine may be once in largely powerless office of Vice Prez. 1980 was a long time ago, and a LOT of old hippies have sold out, probably on the order of 99 percent, most of necessity and economic realities. We are, after all, dealing with a military industrial financial media academic congressional judicial executive complex these days:

Rad profs can't get tenure, if they can get a teaching post at all. Who the hell does not work for a company that is owned by a company that is owned by a giant corporation that does horrific shit?

So who knows who Tim Kaine will be in a year or two? Or Hillary? Or US? Life is a gamble,and one thing for DAMN sure is we are gonna roll dem bones on November 8!

But don't over think this shit - NO prez is gonna immediately jerk the MIFMACJE Complex off course. He/she may slowly, eventually alter its course but it sure as hell won't be a rapid radical change, unless events cause the entire Complex Beast to change, like the Great Depression did in forcing our leaders to become Progressives because there was a real possibility of America turning Socialist or Communist like many starving nations did or very nearly did in the 1930s. Enviro tipping points are game changers, tho.
 
 
+24 # Tigre1 2016-10-06 08:35
Thanks, yes, for reminding about Central and South America in the late 70's and 80's. Feeling some shame being reminded that I have forgotten so much.

My little office was across the old Parade Grounds from the Hq of School of the Americas. I am sure I heard stories of 'introducing folks to gravity' via chopper.

I am lucky I only got close to the belly of the beast. All these years later I may have recovered some feeling of trust for other humans.

I always have had a sense of right and wrong, and became politically involved for immigrants...an d got some stories from the refugees from all over the
southern Hemisphere. What shocks my memories now awaken in me!

Thanks for your observations... I think.
 
 
+14 # Navigatio di Brendani 2016-10-06 13:48
You are welcome, even for slightly hesitant thanks. I am not a cheerleader, or a follower of any one doctrine that I am aware of, except perhaps right brain feminism, in its purest sense of nurturing our planet.

My dad was a very accomplished Cold-Warrior, one of the world's foremost military jet propulsion engineers, so I was born inside the belly of the beast... an interesting perspective, indeed.

But he, like me, was a complex man, learning, evolving, and adapting in a rapidly changing world. He read 5 books a week and subscribed to several high-brow mags, so dinner table discussions with 7 of us were lively and varied. I learned way more at home than I ever did at school.

My point, via an old bumper sticker from 70's: "Don't Let Your Dogma Get Run Over By Your Karma!"

WAY too easy to become rigidly dogmatic! "HISTORY, not HYSTERIA!"
 
 
+37 # walt 2016-10-06 04:45
Reading this reveals more of the corruption US foreign policy has been infected with for decades. That includes some of the same players who carry on with impunity while trying to convince the world of America's "exceptionalism ." It will slowly destroy the country unless it is stopped.
 
 
+16 # mmc 2016-10-06 14:45
I'm a Catholic, and firmly believe that "Catholic" Vote is a right wing extremist group no different than ISIS jihadists. they do not represent the teachings of Jesus. But they are ignorant enough to support someone as evil as Pence, who today said that our governments policies in the middle east are a failure, that have caused the loss of jobs in Pennsylvania. I'm not wild about our middle east policy(s), but only a republican politician would be so lyingly crass and ignorant to suggest than bombing or not bombing Assad has anything to do with jobs in Pennsylvania. But Pence is counting on the fact that that whether or not his base is deplorable, they are deplorably ignorant.
 
 
+1 # Robbee 2016-10-06 18:16
Quoting mmc:
I'm a Catholic, and firmly believe that "Catholic" Vote is a right wing extremist group no different than ISIS jihadists. they do not represent the teachings of Jesus. But they are ignorant enough to support someone as evil as Pence, who today said that our governments policies in the middle east are a failure, that have caused the loss of jobs in Pennsylvania. I'm not wild about our middle east policy(s), but only a republican politician would be so lyingly crass and ignorant to suggest than bombing or not bombing Assad has anything to do with jobs in Pennsylvania. But Pence is counting on the fact that that whether or not his base is deplorable, they are deplorably ignorant.

- i'm a progressive - and i believe that kaine - like bernie, warren and hill - is a good man who will be a progressive influence on gov't - on america - i'm excited about the prospect of having dems in charge of one branch of government - the executive - and another - the judiciary

we can help make this happen while some fox/faux progressives here - piss and moan about bernie not becoming prez - while doing everything they can to get rump elected instead

i invested my afternoon as a volunteer for "our revolution" at umichigan while bernie spoke to hundreds and hundreds of students about volunteering to get students to register to vote - by next tuesday's deadline

go bernie! and go dem!
 
 
+3 # Robbee 2016-10-06 18:20
Quoting Robbee:
Quoting mmc:
I'm a Catholic, and firmly believe that "Catholic" Vote is a right wing extremist group no different than ISIS jihadists. they do not represent the teachings of Jesus. But they are ignorant enough to support someone as evil as Pence, who today said that our governments policies in the middle east are a failure, that have caused the loss of jobs in Pennsylvania. I'm not wild about our middle east policy(s), but only a republican politician would be so lyingly crass and ignorant to suggest than bombing or not bombing Assad has anything to do with jobs in Pennsylvania. But Pence is counting on the fact that that whether or not his base is deplorable, they are deplorably ignorant.

- i'm a progressive - and i believe that kaine - like bernie, warren and hill - is a good man who will be a progressive influence on gov't - on america - i'm excited about the prospect of having dems in charge of one branch of government - the executive - and another - the judiciary

we can help make this happen while some fox/faux progressives here - piss and moan about bernie not becoming prez - while doing everything they can to get rump elected instead

i invested my afternoon as a volunteer for "our revolution" at umichigan while bernie spoke to hundreds and hundreds of students about volunteering to get students to register to vote - by next tuesday's deadline

go bernie! and go dem!

- let's see if the pope can sway catholics
 
 
+2 # AJNorth 2016-10-08 23:06
Tim Kaine is something the Catholic Vote members, followers, fellow travelers, allies and sycophants are not, and never will be: Christian -- by definition.

For the word literally means "Christ-like," a quality none of them even remotely possess. Everything else is dogma based on the lunatic ranting of ignorant, frightened and superstitious people from the Bronze Age who believed, amongst other things, that the Earth was flat -- and created to subjugate other ignorant, frightened and superstitious people, then and now.

Indeed, for these vile, ignorant, hateful and bigoted bible-beating bunko artists to call themselves "Christian" is not only a monstrous obscenity, but out-and-out blasphemy.
 
 
-1 # Robbee 2016-10-10 07:11
Quoting AJNorth:
superstitious people from the Bronze Age

- Bronze Age?
 

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