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Reich writes: "I finally found a Trump supporter - this morning when I went to buy coffee. (I noticed a Trump bumper sticker on his car.) 'Hi,' I said. 'Noticed your Trump bumper sticker.'"

Former Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich. (photo: Steve Russell/Toronto Star)
Former Clinton labor secretary Robert Reich. (photo: Steve Russell/Toronto Star)


My Coffee With a Trump Supporter

By Robert Reich, Robert Reich's Blog

24 September 16

 

finally found a Trump supporter � this morning when I went to buy coffee. (I noticed a Trump bumper sticker on his car.)

�Hi,� I said. �Noticed your Trump bumper sticker.�

�Yup,� he said, a bit defensively.

�I hope you don�t mind my asking, but I�m curious. Why are you supporting him?�

�I know he�s a little bit much,� said the Trump supporter. �But he�s a successful businessman. And we need a successful businessman as president.�

�How do you know he�s a successful businessman?� I asked.

�Because he�s made a fortune.�

�Has he really?� I asked.

�Of course. Forbes magazine says he�s worth four and a half billion.�

�That doesn�t mean he�s been a success,� I said.

�In my book it does,� said the Trump supporter.

�You know, in 1976, when Trump was just starting his career, he said he was worth about $200 million,� I said. �Most of that was from his father.�

�That just proves my point,� said the Trump supporter. �He turned that $200 million into four and a half billion. Brilliant man.�

�But if he had just put that $200 million into an index fund and reinvested the dividends, he�d be worth twelve billion today,� I said.

The Trump supporter went silent.

"And he got about $850 million in tax subsidies, just in New York alone,� I said.

More silence.

�He�s not a businessman,� I said. �He�s a con man. "Hope you enjoy your coffee.�

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+28 # Walter J Smith 2014-10-04 10:49
We hardly need to "read more." Who among the US's highest regarded economists has not been in deep denial about the terminally depressed US economy for the last 7 years?

Who, among the US's highest regarded economists has not quietly approved of endless deficit spending for military adventurism around the globe, while aggressively restraining themselves from calling this horror show the global disaster that it is? Who among the US's highest regarded economists has loudly blown the whistle on the US economy's rapidly expanding ecological disaster while the narrowly defined "finance-centri c" economy rapidly expands from exploiting all of our natural and human resources, that financial expansion precisely due in every regard to that very same expanding ecological disaster?

As we have been far too patient and generous and restrained with our political elites, so we have been with our economic theory elites and our legal/judicial elites. Like the academics traditionally have increasingly become, those elites have allowed themselves to become too comfortable with & polite to others in their heartless "class" of elites to any longer imagine the urgently needed honesty and straight talk we all must practice for the planet to remain humanly inhabitable.
 
 
+30 # California Neal 2014-10-04 13:22
Paul Krugman and Robert Reich have consistently called this correctly. But Obama (I've voted for him twice) has governed like a moderate Republican, and he chose Summers and Geithner, who were part of the problem, over these two progressive economists. And he never has turned to them. Wall Street's call?
 
 
+20 # tclose 2014-10-04 17:57
Paul Krugman was one who has consistently, from 2002 on, criticized Geo Bush's "adventurism" in Iraq, and the massive spending it implied. He has consistently supported the Obama program to get out of Iraq and Afghanistan as early as possible. And he has consistently called for meaningful action on climate change.

His support of deficit spending, against a tidal wave of opposition from the right, has been to increase job creation and reduce the impact of the recession on working stiffs.

This guy should not be the target of your criticism, although I agree that your criticism applies to most other "economic theory elites".
 
 
-22 # Roland 2014-10-04 22:23
 
 
+22 # engelbach 2014-10-05 03:14
I doubt that you speak for "most people."

I think (but I don't know, of course) that most people wish the U.S. had never gone into Iraq in the first place, much less stayed there longer.

The world would be better off if the U.S. ruling class did not intervene wherever "U.S. interests (i.e., power and profit) were at stake.
 
 
+14 # Phillybuster 2014-10-05 11:11
No, the situation in Iraq would be much better if the U.S. had left Saddam Hussein in power. Saddam was no threat to the U.S., had no WMD, would not have allowed Al-Qaeda into his country, there would be no ISIS, 4000 U.S soldiers would still be alive, tens of thousands more U.S. soldiers would not have been grievously wounded, and the U.S. Treasury would have saved one trillion dollars. Yes, Saddam was a psychopathic killer but I wager far fewer Iraqis (and others) would be dead or displaced under Saddam than have been since the U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003.

Now the U.S. decries the lack of strong leadership among the "moderate" Islamic factions. If Saddam could see the U.S. stuck in the quicksand of the Middle East at present and likely continuing for decades to come, he'd be laughing his ass off.
 
 
+8 # Old4Poor 2014-10-05 20:06
[quote name="Roland"]M ost people, including myself, think that the situation in Iraq would be better if we had left troops there.

Who are these "Most People" Kemo Sabi?

I never wanted us there in the fist place and do not want us going back.

And, why are you ignoring the Status of Forces Agreement in which the US HAD to leave Iraq when we did. (Signed by Geroge W)
 
 
+10 # RLF 2014-10-05 05:17
Asking "highly regarded" economists about the economy is like asking a doctor who works for a drug company what drug to take. Economists are paid by industry and thus are highly corrupt.

My seat-of-the-pan ts is that inflation is way more than is pretended by the government. Their stats have not been trustable since Raygun. For one...they leave out everything that people with very little money buy almost exclusively...
 
 
+6 # RicKelis 2014-10-04 11:28
 
 
+5 # RicKelis 2014-10-04 11:29
 
 
+6 # RicKelis 2014-10-04 11:30
 
 
+12 # Texas Aggie 2014-10-04 12:01
Thank you again. I appreciate what you do.
 
 
-26 # Roland 2014-10-04 13:39
 
 
+24 # REDPILLED 2014-10-04 18:23
Do you understand the difference between the U.S. debt and the budget deficit?

Look at the high budget deficit after World War II ended, and how high employment not only drastically decreased it, but also expanded and enriched the U.S. middle class until the Chicago school economists took over under Nixon and then dominated under Reagan.

Deficit spending is the way out of an economic depression such as the one we are in, if it creates jobs (yes, government jobs as FDR created). Those newly-employed workers will then spend and pay taxes, which will bring down the deficit.

There is work to be done in repairing, rebuilding and modernizing our crumbling infrastructure; making our homes and businesses more energy efficient; expanding sustainable, non-greenhouse gas-emitting energy sources; and educating and hiring more teachers and doctors and nurses.

Neither major political party is interested in learning from the New Deal, because they have both been taken over by Wall Street and corporations.

But a Manhattan Project for sustainable, non-greenhouse gas-emitting, non-nuclear energy sources is what we need now, not wasting tens of billions of dollars bombing ISIS in Iraq and Syria to fulfill the neocon dream of regime change throughout the Middle East (except in Israel).
 
 
-6 # Roland 2014-10-04 22:00
 
 
+12 # engelbach 2014-10-05 03:25
 
 
+10 # RLF 2014-10-05 05:25
The spending is problem is not unemployment or welfare...it is the corporate dicks with their hands in the kitty stealing the country blind. For instance...priv ate contractors in Iraq...since when has it been cheaper to higher privately for hundreds of thousands of dollars...a truck driver...rather than use an army one who gets low 6 figures?
 
 
+6 # engelbach 2014-10-05 03:21
If you take the debt (or the deficit: I'm not sure to which you are actually referring) in isolation, of course it means eventual bankruptcy.

But if you take into account using debt as an instrument of investment, eventually you pay it off and make a profit; i.e., the return in tax revenues from a stimulated economy pays you back.

Given the current economic policies of the administration, the economy is unlikely to be restored in the near future. Nothing is being done to boost wages or create jobs for the chronically unemployed, who are not figured into the current official unemployment figure, which is way too low to be believable.

You seem to count on this worst-case scenario for your prognostication of doom. That covers only one of many possibilities, depending the next couple of elections and government action.
 
 
+6 # RLF 2014-10-05 05:21
The unemployment numbers are crap. The largest industry in the country, the construction industry, is half paid on 1099s and not considered unemployed when they don't work. Unemployment insurance is only for corporate workers...not the self employed.
 

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