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Kucinich writes: "As a result of 9/11, America has been trapped inside the heart of darkness, living a lie about a world full of enemies, which we have created, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria. Only when we know the truth will we at last be set free from endless war."

Dennis Kucinich. (photo: Facebook)
Dennis Kucinich. (photo: Facebook)


9/11, the Monstrous Lie, the Path Forward

By Dennis Kucinich, Dennis Kucinich's Facebook Page

12 September 16

 

s a result of 9/11, America has been trapped inside the heart of darkness, living a lie about a world full of enemies, which we have created, in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria. Only when we know the truth will we at last be set free from endless war. Only when we hold accountable those who lied to take us into wars will we be able to move forward courageously in the world. Britain had its Chilcot Commission on the Iraq War.

Where is our moment of reckoning?

As we observe the 15th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, the wrenching heartbreak of violent loss of loved ones and the utter devastation upon innocents of our nation, let us, too, observe that as a result of 9/11 an unjust war was visited on the people of Iraq who, at the hands of the US government, and leaders in political parties, have, in war, endured and continue to suffer from the equivalent of hundreds of 9/11s.

Top Bush Administration and Congressional officials possessed no credible evidence that Iraq had anything to do with 9/11, yet made the people of Iraq pay for it! Bob Woodward’s book, Bush at War, (Chapter 4, Page 49) makes it abundantly clear that 9/11 was immediately appropriated by the Bush Administration in the service of an ideological agenda destructive to the world.

The Bush Administration deliberately conflated Iraq and 9/11, to mislead the American people into thinking Saddam Hussein was behind 9/11. The Christian Science Monitor reported that when President Bush spoke to the nation in the run-up to the Iraq war he “mentioned Sept. 11 eight times. He referred to Saddam Hussein many more times that than, often in the same breath with Sept. 11.” See this CNN Transcript.

I did the research, the due diligence and subsequently led the effort against the Iraq war. At the time I was heavily criticized and dismissed for challenging what to me seemed an obviously false narrative imposed on America.

I again call for the creation of a 9/11 National Commission on Truth and Reconciliation, so that the America people can know the full truth of what happened on 9/11, who was responsible, and also what happened after 9/11, and who was responsible for voting for, funding and initiating a war based on a monstrous lie.


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+195 # grandlakeguy 2016-09-12 11:47
The official story is the real conspiracy theory here!
The voluminous 911 report did not even mention building 7!
Over 3000 architects and engineers have studied this event and determined that all three buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.

Go to:

www.911truth.org
...to really learn about this event...
the guilty parties are certainly living in this country!
 
 
-140 # thekidde 2016-09-12 13:32
Collapsed due to gravity and the laws of physics. This red herring won't die because of ignorance and a need for conspiracy.
 
 
+122 # twocents 2016-09-12 13:44
Nonsense. Tall building don't just fall down. Larry Silverstein has been accurately quoted as saying "Pull it" just before it came down.
 
 
+136 # REDPILLED 2016-09-12 15:07
Gravity and the laws of physics only work for the "pancake theory" collapse, which, in the cases of WTC Buildings 1,2, and 7, was ruled out by the speed at which the three buildings collapsed into their own footprints and the fact that the lower floors did not slow down the higher floors falling on top of them.

Speaking of the laws of physics (and chemistry, specifically thermodynamics) , no steel-framed building before or since 9/11/01 has ever collapsed due to fire alone. The Twin Towers were constructed to withstand collisions by jetliners, and the hardened core of each could only be collapsed by controlled demolition using military-grade thermal explosives such as thermite and thermate because jet fuel and office materials do not burn at high enough temperatures to melt steel.
 
 
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+117 # Questions, questions 2016-09-12 15:12
Quoting thekidde:
Collapsed due to gravity and the laws of physics.


If you really believe this, your ignorance of the laws of physics (several of which were violated on 9/11, according to the "official" theory) is truly breathtaking.

Just watch the videos - buildings simply CAN'T collapse at free fall speed (as even the government's NIST study on bldg.7 admits happened) without the supporting structures being cleared away by some other force (like explosives).

And look at the video of the south tower coming down - the top section twists and tilts as it drops, before disintegrating prior to the floors below it. This should have deflected/remov ed the downward force and stopped the crushing of floors below - but that isn't what happened. Just try this with a set of blocks or a tree you want to cut down, and it will become obvious that natural physics doesn't work the way the official theory claims it did that day. As Sherlock would say, "it's elementary!"

Oh, and there WAS a conspiracy that day - it's just an issue of who you believe conducted it, and what evidence exists for each particular conspiracy theory.

The physical evidence indicates the "red herring" is in the government's evidence-free and un-adjudicated theory - and it stinks to high heaven!
 
 
+75 # polfrosch 2016-09-12 15:22
"The laws of physics." Bold words.

"Europhysics News", a official publication of the "European Physical Society" founded in 1968, consisting of the physical societies of 42 member states, just published an article voicing strong doubts about the official 911 collapse version.

http://nsnbc.me/2016/09/12/europhysics-news-published-report-questioning-official-911-building-collapse-narratives/ (this is not MSNBC, but the article is quite comprehensive.)

http://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/09/09/the-tide-is-turning-the-official-story-is-now-the-conspiracy-theory/

Here is the original article.
http://www.europhysicsnews.org/articles/epn/pdf/2016/04/epn2016474p21.pdf

Be careful with bold words like "ignorance" and "need of conspiracy" in the 911 context. As you can see above they can be applied to your argument as well, probably making more sense.

Waving the flag with "right or wrong, my country" on the lips obstructs the clear sight.

Pride goes before a fall.

In connection with the three collapsed World Trade Center buildings the phrase could be modified to:

Lies go before the fall.
 
 
+50 # polfrosch 2016-09-12 15:50
Ah, a thumbs down. From "thekidde" I presume?

Reality will not go away, even if you decide to close your eyes as hard as you can.
 
 
+72 # Helen Marshall 2016-09-12 16:00
Two key quotes from the article you cite:

The collapse mechanics discussed above are only a fraction of the available evidence indicating that the airplane impacts and ensuing fires did not cause the collapse of
the Twin Towers.


Instead, the evidence points overwhelmingly
to the conclusion that all three buildings were destroyed by controlled demolition. Given the far-reaching implications, it is morally imperative that this hypothesis be
the subject of a truly scientific and impartial investigation by responsible authorities."

The chances of the USG doing this are zero.
 
 
+49 # Questions, questions 2016-09-12 16:27
Quoting Helen Marshall:

The chances of the USG doing this are zero.

And that's why we need an INDEPENDENT investigation (and/or a new government...), not a fact-free whitewash by a bunch of cronies of Bush and Condi!

I think "responsible authorities" in the article quote may be referring to, you know... honest, un-conflicted and scientifically literate folks(admittedl y in short supply these days in the US!) - not the responsible parties for the crime.
 
 
+40 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 17:02
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Just because the U.S.G. is quite unlikely to carry out an independent investigation of 9-11; which, concerning them, is an oxymoron [as, have they ever, TRULY, conducted a TRULY independent investigation about anything (rhetorical question)?]; doesn't mean that we shouldn't fight for one! That's the whole raison d'être of Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth and the many other 9/11 Truth organizations' existence; with the understanding that, even if it never happens, we have got to (continue to) try and bring one about, and get to the bottom, and the top, of what really happened on 9-11, and who was truly responsible for it.

Just because the government won't do it, doesn't mean that we should give up and not keep up the good fight for 9/11 Truth, and that EVERYONE in the world, except for the most diehard avoiders and deniers of that truth, comes to know the real truth about 9-11 beyond question and/or truly logical doubt, that it was definitely an inside job carried out by factions of the U.S. government, some of its allied governments [Saudi Arabia, Pakistan (the ISI---Pakistani intelligence and military), Israel (the Israeli government and their intelligence agency, Mossad), the U.K., etc.], the global(ist) deep state shadow government, "al CIAduh(!)", the Bush family, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, other neocons, those who hold top-down control of primary / mainstream global and U.S. media, and no doubt key "military-indus trial 'liberals'" as well, etc.

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+19 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 23:34
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But, having said all of that, there was undoubtedly a great deal of purposeful compartmentaliz ation so that many people who were unknowing participants would have truthful plausible deniability. In other words, many people who were indirectly involved were never informed of everything, and only what they needed to know, in order to become the dupes that they invariably became. There were also many who were informed that it was coming, but were intentionally, and willingly, kept in the dark about the particulars for the same reason(s). The less they knew, the better; for them and for the success of the entire conspiracy.

And, before you ask why some, or at least one, of those latter people hasn't come forward to blow the whistle, it is because they know without any doubt(s) whatsoever that their lives, and the lives of their entire families, would be forfeit. Many of them are also very loyal to the cabal, and wouldn't divulge the truth for that reason alone, even under torture.

Look at the JFK assassination, the "al CIAduh(!)" co-conspirators , with the exception of only one of them, took the truth of JFK's assassination to their graves; and the one who cracked, only did so on his deathbed and didn't divulge much at all, only that he [and therefore "al CIAduh(!)" for which he worked] was [and/or were] involved [E. Howard Hunt to his son, St. John Hunt (yes, believe it or not, that is his real name), on tape, as the former lay dying].

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+14 # Caliban 2016-09-12 18:26
But the real question remains; How were the necessary amounts of explosive -- of whatever sort -- inserted into the internal structures of these busy buildings without anybody noticing?

So, of all the theories, which gives the most reasonable scientific answer?
 
 
+26 # Observer 47 2016-09-12 19:52
The CIA carried out the assassination of a US President, in front of the entire world, and got away with it. After that, moving explosives into the bowels of a building should be fairly easy.
 
 
+20 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 22:18
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As you have undoubtedly been told (many?) times before, but conveniently "forget", there WERE people who noticed. Several if not many witnesses have reported that they observed many unusual workers going in and out of the Twin Towers, and many other unusual things going on, in the weeks immediately prior to the morning of 9-11. And remember too, those people worked for Marvin Bush's security company that was in charge of the WTC complex at that time, and at the time of 9-11. Very convenient, eh?

Recall also that one of the primary pro-Hitler, pro-Naziism Americans, along with other Yale Skull and Bones, "al CIAduh(!)" deep state shadow government players, who illegally and traitorously funded Hitler's regime, was G.W., Jeb and Marvin Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, who was and/or were protected by Congress and got away with it scot free [and is how the Bush family first became millionaires, and G.H.W. Bush became a major player in "al CIAduh(!)", eventually became its director, and finally became a POTUS, a founder and leader of the Carlyle Group, and a major player in the Bilderburg Group and in global government, the choosers of U.S. and other national presidents, and those who are now bringing about the enslavement of the U.S. and the world under one-world government and one-world religion (all of the world's religions combined under Catholicism, the most evil cult of counterfeit "Christianity" on the face of the planet)].

(Continued below)
 
 
+17 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 22:19
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You think these "most-evil-powe rful-and-riches t-people-in-the -entire-world" couldn't perpetrate 9-11, especially with admitted trillions of dollars missing from the Pentagon at the time (which Rumsfeld literally made a joke out of---me thinks many "Congresscritte rs" pockets were lined with millions if not billions of dollars to start with, because they all laughed along with him and thought it was very funny)? Think again.

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+15 # laborequalswealth 2016-09-13 09:50
Totally agree. The media has tried to slander truth-seekers by calling them "conspiracy theorists." Meaning what? That there are no conspiracies?

The older I get, the more convinced I am that conspiracies-of -silence by the ruling classes are not the exceptions but the norm.
 
 
-7 # Caliban 2016-09-13 12:44
"Meaning what"? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the phrase "conspiracy theorists" in relation, for instance, to 9/11 and to the JFK assassination mean theorists who blame the US government for despicable acts committed by others?
 
 
+9 # WPOH#1 2016-09-14 11:29
Quoting Caliban:
"Meaning what"? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the phrase "conspiracy theorists" in relation, for instance, to 9/11 and to the JFK assassination mean theorists who blame the US government for despicable acts committed by others?


No. "Conspiracy theorists" was a meme created by the FBI right after the JFK murder and it was to be used to discredit anything but the official story. (Look it up, the document is available). Actually it isn't a nefarious term meaning horrible things it is where ever two or more people plan something. That is a conspiracy. Happens every day. That is how things get done in the world. Some are secretive and covert conspiracies, some are just ordinary every day things.
 
 
-4 # Caliban 2016-09-15 14:31
Thanks for the response, # WPOH#1. I do know what a conspiracy is.

But "conspiracy theory" in our post -- Dealey Plaza world -- carries the added implications of "bogus [conspiracy] theory" or "foolish [conspiracy] theory", as you surely must know.
 
 
+14 # laborequalswealth 2016-09-13 09:48
The chance 9/11 WASN'T a false flag operation? I'd put the odd at at least 10:1. Our buddies the Saudis did the dirty work for the American Fascist Party, AKA the Republicans AND Democrats.

Does anyone seriously think that even a phalanx of lawyers could come up with a detailed almost 600 page "Patriot Act" (a beyond Orwellian name) in a mere SIX WEEKS?

The Cheney/Bush/Rum sfeld et al. TRAITORS had this piece of democracy-destr oying crap prepared for the "right time."

As we know, the neocons have unabashedly advocated the American descent into criminal wars as a way to "unify" the country. And, as is virtually always the case with neocons, they were dead bang WRONG. But then, it wasn't their friends, children or loved ones being slaughters.

These people are just plain EVIL.
 
 
0 # Jim at Dr.Democracy on Facebook 2016-09-17 23:56
Much of what you write, John Browne, might well be true.

But all the world's religions combined under Catholicism? How many millennia, John Browne, is the Bilderburg Group willing to wait for THAT part of their plan to occur? They must be very, very patient.

And, while on the topic, to what end? Religions seem already to be pretty adept at keeping people looking down or up or left or right...and so unable to see straight. I can't even imagine the reason the global MIC would want to combine all the world's religions under Catholicism when there's so much benefit to keeping people in many religious tribes that distrust and cannot cooperate with each other.

Finally, in all genuine concern for your well-being and, if you believe you have one, perhaps your soul, is there any chance that your awareness of actual and incredibly evil real-world sleight-of-hand tricks to promote the financial interests of a few have become mired in the murky subconsciousnes s of your extreme and weird religious bigotry?
 
 
0 # John S. Browne 2016-09-18 04:52
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Are you a Catholic? Sounds like it. Come on, open your eyes. The Vatican already controls most of the world, other than the Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist countries, though they have their footprints in at least the latter two as well. The only real holdout they were concerned about, the U.S., where they were NEVER supposed to be allowed to gain a foothold, AT ALL, is now already almost completely controlled, if not already essentially completely controlled, by them. They have created false religions in the U.S. through their Jesuit army [their version of "al CIAduh(!)", made to look "benign" on the surface by their Jesuit priests, etc.], including the Mormons and the Jehovah's Witnesses. They have infiltrated all of the "Protestant" churches with ecumenism, and essentially "Catholicized" many if not most of them. They and the ecumenical "Protestants" already control the U.S. government, through the deep state shadow government [watch the movie, The 'Good' Shepherd, with open eyes, with discernment, and without allowing yourself to swallow the false-propagand a that this "al CIAduh(!)" propaganda film was meant to get most viewers of it to do].

(Continued below)
 
 
0 # John S. Browne 2016-09-18 04:53
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Anyway, I can tell that it's probably a total waste of time to attempt to reason with you, so I will leave this reply "at this"; because, in truth, besides your being clearly and deeply brainwashed, you are the one who is a religious bigot. I completely believe in TRUE Christianity, and am ONLY against ALL false religion(s) and counterfeit-"Ch ristianity", so I am NOT a religious bigot AT ALL; and, in reality, not a bigot AT ALL, either.

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+23 # bettysdad@yahoo.com 2016-09-13 03:47
The weekend before 9/11 the bldgs were closed so techs could make adjustments to phoine lines
 
 
+4 # crispy 2016-09-13 21:10
Caliban,
the fireproofing of part of the towers in 2001 could have easily sprayed the layers of nanonized thermite found in remains of WTC. I think this is in one of Richard Gage's lectures on Utube. they show a triple layer material w thermite embedded in it.there was also closing of the towers shortly before for "maintenance"
 
 
+2 # davidschandler 2016-09-22 16:13
Quoting Caliban:
But the real question remains; How were the necessary amounts of explosive -- of whatever sort -- inserted into the internal structures of these busy buildings without anybody noticing?


This question has an answer. Take workers in any urban environment wearing typical coveralls, wave them through security (as the security guards have been instructed to do), set out orange cones to close down the elevators, one at a time, and you have complete access to the core columns of the building. The amount of explosive/incen diary material would have measured in the tons, probably hundreds of tons. As Neils Harrit answered the question by a reporter, "How would they get the explosives in there", he answered, "On pallets."
 
 
+12 # anarchaos 2016-09-12 16:42
thekidde ----definitely projection by you!
 
 
-15 # jcdav 2016-09-12 21:01
And a helping hand from some pyrotechnics? Gee, how could anything remain standing in your world?
 
 
+9 # jussayin 2016-09-13 10:44
Actually, the laws of physics won't allow nearly free-fall acceleration through the path of greatest resistance. Google images of the twin tower construction to see what the core column structure was like and then contemplate the ridiculousness of the official story that a fire 90 floors up caused all that steel to collapse. In fact, it doesn't even address the core structure collapse, just the floors which went around the core structure. I suggest everyone listen to episode 311 of the Corbett Report podcast.
 
 
+4 # John S. Browne 2016-09-14 03:05
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Yes, and not just collapsed, but disintegrated, almost all pulverized to dust in mere seconds at nearly free-fall speed. Without controlled demolition, that is physically, and totally, impossible.

And, if there was nothing at "the crime scene(s)" to hide, why quickly "disappear" all of the evidence, including the steel beams that were obviously cut at an angle by controlled demolition cutting charges (there is still at least one photograph online of one of those obviously-cut beams sticking up out of the rubble before the PTB were able to ship the evidence off and get rid of it forever---which , obviously they had to do in order to avoid the obvious, as well as some of the truth being gotten to from the start, if a true crime scene investigation had been allowed to be carried out)?

The PTB committed multiple crimes by corrupting a crime scene and destroying evidence, and including obstruction of justice, that no one whatsoever has been held accountable for at all. Imagine if a non-corrupt 9/11 Commission (which the 9/11 Commission was NOT) had had that uncorrupted crime scene evidence; it would have been obvious that controlled demolition was used, and that Arab workers could not have planted the explosives so precisely for weeks prior to 9-11.

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+6 # John S. Browne 2016-09-14 03:21
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As a few people with architectural and/or engineering experience noticed right away, the news footage of the Twin Towers running non-stop on 9-11 and for a while thereafter, made it obvious that the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition; but most of us were in such deep shock at the time, that we didn't notice the obvious, or we wondered about it but forgot about it soon thereafter.

Yet, if most of us who are not in deep avoidance and denial of the truth, any truth, who realize that conspiracies are perpetrated, including large ones, and who have any real sense and open eyes, go and look at the news footage now, it is more than obvious that controlled demolition(s) took place. Many people have woken up and faced the truth concerning 9-11 just on that alone, by having gone back and again looked at the news footage, looking at it much more closely and with open "post-shock" eyes, and recognizing what they missed or forgot before, because that footage clearly shows explosions taking place sequentially as the towers collapsed, just below the collapse zones, removing all of the resistance to the almost free-fall collapse as if there was nothing in the way of, and resisting, that collapse.

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+3 # John S. Browne 2016-09-14 03:22
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Many people have died, and are still dying, or will die, from cancer(s) due to the WTC dust; but I wonder how many people have died, are dying, or will die from cancer(s) due to RADIATION in the explosives, because it also appears that mini-nuclear-ex plosives were additionally used, along with the (steel beam) cutting charges. What else logically and scientifically, completely obeying the laws of physics, explains almost everything being pulverized into dust in a matter of only a few seconds?

I'll bet the cancer rates in and around NYC have gone up exponentially since 9-11, DUE TO RADIATION EXPOSURE, but no one(?) has connected the dots, simply thinks that it's a coincidence, and/or believes that it was only caused by the dust itself if they face what Christie Todd Whitman covered up and came out later, leading to her completely-disi ngenuous "apology".

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+7 # crispy 2016-09-13 21:02
just go to architectsanden gineersfor911ru th ()richard Gage) among other reliable sites and study what Dr Jones (not alex Jones) and Jim Fetzer, Pat Shanan have submitted as PROOF the official theory does not stand. OR keep your head in the sand
 
 
+4 # Capn Canard 2016-09-15 08:11
"Laws of physics?"

What "laws"? Most important is the cited
"laws of physics" as you purport are counter to the U.S.A.'s official story. This is mildly complicated so I'll take it slowly:

Steel doesn't burn or melt from kerosene (jet fuel) fire in mere seconds. That would take well over 2000 degrees F. The most popular theory suggests a Thermitic(Al and Ga) reaction heats up to over 3500 degrees F which would cut down WTC 1 and 2 very quickly as is what happened.

There are other theories that would apply as well, but are far less commonly known. Long story short, the official story is a lie, a contrived piece of propaganda to foment endless war.

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED

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+2 # John S. Browne 2016-09-15 13:14
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"...(T)o foment endless war..." AND TO "JUSTIFY" TURNING THE U.S. AND THE REST OF THE WESTERN ALLIED COUNTRIES INTO CORPORATE-FASCI ST TOTALITARIAN MILITARIZED POLICE STATES; OVERTHROW AND/OR OVERTURN LIBERTY(IES) AND FREEDOM(S); LOCK THOSE COUNTRIES DOWN UNDER INCREASING-DRAC ONIAN-OPPRESSIV E-AND-REPRESSIV E LAWS AND INCREASINGLY-BR UTAL, MASS-MURDEROUS NATIONWIDE MILITARIZED POLICING; TURN THEIR CITIZENRY INTO MORE AND MORE DUMBED-DOWN, BRAINWASHED, PASSIVE, AND EVEN WILLING, SLAVES (AS WELL AS SPIES AND INFORMANTS ON AND AGAINST THEIR NEIGHBORS); AND TO FURTHER TURN MUCH OF THE WORLD THAT ISN'T ALREADY SUCH, INTO A UNITED CORPORATE-FASCI ST TOTALITARIAN MILITARIZED POLICE AND ENSLAVEMENT STATE UNDER GLOBAL GOVERNMENT DICTATORSHIP, AND ONE-WORLD COUNTERFEIT- "CHRISTIAN" AND/OR FALSE RELIGION [ALL RELIGIONS COMBINED INTO ONE ULTIMATE FRAUDULENT RELIGION (AS DEPICTED IN THE END OF THE "LOST" TELEVISION SERIES), HEADED BY ROMAN CATHOLICISM, THE MOST EVIL CULT OF COUNTERFEIT/FAL SE-"CHRISTIANIT Y"/RELIGION ON THE FACE OF THE ENTIRE PLANET].

Yes, the mission is being accomplished.

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+5 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2016-09-15 16:49
If course, you did forget to mention those creditable witnesses who stated "We heard very loud blasts. I know an explosive blast when I hear one." That comment made by an on-duty fireman, including others.
 
 
+44 # 666 2016-09-12 14:31
What we need more than any of this is a war crimes commission to put all those responsible for the war on terror, from Herr W to Herr Obama and all their minions and lying pundits, in jail forever or at the end of very short rope. May justice be done on you all!
 
 
-14 # economagic 2016-09-12 15:54
# grandlakeguy 2016-09-12 11:47

I don't place a lot of faith in 911truth.org, and all of the "explanations" have some shortcomings, though few as great as those of the official version. As with the Kennedy assassinations (at least two), we will probably never know with certainty what really happened. David Ray Griffin's 2004 book, "The New Pearl Harbor" (a reference to a comment in the neoCON (PNAC) manifesto, "Rebuilding America's Defenses"), laid out the critical questions and some possible answers in a fairly unbiased way, though not according to the CIA!
 
 
+21 # Navigatio di Brendani 2016-09-13 07:29
I don't have total faith in any ONE forensics theory re building collapses, Economagic. But if you examine the hundreds of separate events before, during and after 9/11, they add up to conspiracy and coverup.

It was not an auspicious sign when W first wanted NO investigation and then acceded under pressure, funding it with only $4 million at first, versus $100 million Rep Congress spent on a blow job Bill Clinton got. W stonewalled requests for documents from 9/11 Comittee til last minute, then literally BURIED them in a large cargo van of useless documents investigators had to waste hundreds of hours digging thru.

Planes' black boxes "not found," then made public after being in possession of NSA and its 17 acres of supercomputers for years. Gonna trust THAT data?

All surveillance tapes around Pentagon confiscated and not shown for several years until computer generated graphics got so sophisticated they can now fool ANYONE.

ENTIRE "Investigation" was pre-scripted, with a "minder" from Cheney/Bush present with veto power over evidence and witnesses.

The list of manipulations, stonewalling, and lies is fucking ENDLESS.

You have a LOT of homework ahead of you before you can offer intelligent input on this subject. You are like a blind man making a final conclusion about the elephant in the room by examining only its tail.
 
 
+4 # crispy 2016-09-13 21:13
watch interviews of Richard Gage economagic
 
 
+33 # anarchaos 2016-09-12 16:41
Most of the rest of the world does know the truth about 9/11. A top magistrate in Spain WILL arrest Cheney or Bush if they step onto Spanish soil. Another excellent source is: ae9/11truth.org (the 3000+ architects & engineers site), will also direct you to other coordinated sources. Dr Jill Stein has called for an independent, authoritative 9/11 investigation too. 'reject the lesser evil for the greater good!' Stein/Baraka in 2016. 1 more; "Conspiracy theorist" = 'One who questions the statements of known liars !!' (anonymous)
 
 
+118 # tomslockett 2016-09-12 11:55
And now Hillary Clinton is making the same kind of numerous references about Putin and Assad. There is no limit to the appetite of the military industrial congressional complex. Dennis's voice is desperately needed in Congress.

What is ominously lacking in this 2016 Presidential campaign where the candidates are busy apologizing for voting for the Iraq War or straining to prove they were against it is any discussion about body counts of those killed by the "mistake". Why does the press not care? Shouldn't Commander in Chief wannabe's demonstrate awareness of the death the wars they "mistakenly" cheerled for then repeated and now want to repeat once more in Syria?

We have environmental impact requirements for federal projects. Should presidents who advocate invading additional sovereign nations be able to state how many casualties they expect resulting from current and additional military actions they favor?

The Nobel Prize winning Physicians for Social Responsibilty (PSR) have the definitive report on casualties entitled "Body Count" in which they state a determination they characterize as being "conservative" that 1.3 - 2 million men, women and children were killed in the impoverished, defenseless third world countries we attack in the Middle East where half the population consists of children and the young.
 
 
+77 # wrknight 2016-09-12 13:52
"We have environmental impact requirements for federal projects."

Interesting point. Has anyone ever assessed the environmental impact of a bombing campaign? Perhaps we should require presidents to prepare detailed environmental impact statements before they go bombing the crap out of some poor country.
 
 
+25 # REDPILLED 2016-09-12 15:16
See this: Environmental effects of war
http://www.lenntech.com/environmental-effects-war.htm
 
 
+87 # tomslockett 2016-09-12 12:27
In a softball pandering question Hardball moderator Chris Matthews asked Hillary about the wars in which he stated 100,000 were killed with no attribution or source given, an outrageous lie.

In a Democracy how can the voters evaluate the performance of the President and Congress if the media has no curiosity and refuses to ask the tough questions?

Will history conclude that this extermination of mostly brown skinned impoverished people half way around the world has similarities to the Holocaust where the public was afraid and in denial and the media and the government colluded to cover it up?

The candidates should be required to say what they think the number is and if it differs from the PSR report, say why. And if the number will grow under their proposals, they have an obligation to provide the estimate and justify it before the voters give them permission. And that includes Aleppo Gary Johnson (says it all, doesn't it?). We deserve to know why this carnage is being carried out in our names and we must demand strong rationals.

If the media refuses to provide us this information they have an obligation to tell us why. Have they been told it will infuriate terrorists and cause additional attacks on the homeland? If so we need to know that so we can examine the legitimacy of the rationale.

We must demand to stop being kept in the dark about the expenditure of the six trillion dollars of our tax money the Pentagon was recently reported to have no documentation.
 
 
+98 # grandlakeguy 2016-09-12 13:09
We will never get any real questions or honest coverage from our mainstream media as they are mostly owned by companies involved in the sordid business of war.
Hillary is given special treatment because she will be great for business for those in the military industrial complex.

When she voted for the criminal attack against the defenseless and innocent people of Iraq Hillary Clinton showed the world exactly who she was.

We cannot afford 4 years of her warmongering madness or of Donald Trump's dangerous fascism.


The DNC can fix this right now by retiring HRC for health reasons and putting all efforts into promoting the election of the actual winner of the primaries!

BRING BACK BERNIE!
 
 
+46 # Ted 2016-09-12 15:22
Or bring forward Stein.
 
 
+32 # sus453 2016-09-12 15:48
Quoting Ted:
Or bring forward Stein.


Yes!
 
 
+35 # WPOH#1 2016-09-12 16:01
Dr Jill Stein still speaks the truth and has integrity. The others are shills. When was the last time this country had a president who WAS NOT a millionaire, if ever? Can't happen because for all practical purposes it is ILLEGAL.
 
 
+3 # bettysdad@yahoo.com 2016-09-13 03:51
What's wrong with being a millionaire?
 
 
+5 # djnova50 2016-09-13 08:50
There's nothing wrong with having millions of dollars if you are willing to use your money for the greater good. The only millionaire I ever knew as a man who lived in our fair city of Fairborn, OH. He was one my my borther's newspaper customers and also lawn mowing customers. Because my sister and I sometimes helped our brother with his paper route, Mr. Layne gave us all bonuses at holidays. It was because of Mr. Layne that my brother's lawn mowing list of clients grew.

But, there are those millionaires whose only goal is to become billionaires and will do anything to reach that goal, no matter who they might hurt in the process.
 
 
+8 # laborequalswealth 2016-09-13 09:56
Working hard at a job the produceds useful goods and services or starting your own business providing those needed goods and services are honorable ways to become affluent.

Sitting at a computer terminal on Wall Street moving electrons around or giving $300K/hour speeches to the people who crashed the world economy is NOT. It is just plain thievery.
 
 
+4 # WPOH#1 2016-09-13 11:45
Quoting bettysdad@yahoo.com:
What's wrong with being a millionaire?

The question should be "What is wrong with a president NOT being a millionaire?"
 
 
+15 # anarchaos 2016-09-12 16:54
YES !!
 
 
+5 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 17:06
#

Yah, frack "Military-Industrial-Burnished-Fools-Gold-Sanders"!

#
 
 
+86 # f f skitty1947 2016-09-12 13:13
thanks, dennis.

i call your attention to the quote attributed to the scumsucking fascist dog rudi 'benito' giuliani as reported in today's rsn headlines:

'in war, anything is legal'.

that explains why we have been mired in constant 'war' since 9/11.

'war' (undeclared, natch) allows the ruling criminal class to run amok with impunity while simultaneously granting their buddies (and future employers) in the 'war' industry carte blanche.
 
 
+61 # grandlakeguy 2016-09-12 13:51
Let us hope that someday Mr. Giuliani will be standing before the World Court Tribunal in the Hague and THEY will be deciding both the legality of that statement AND his fate.
 
 
+17 # WPOH#1 2016-09-12 16:04
I would be so delighted to hear that little scumbag Giuliani was just run over by a NYC bus. Makes me feel really warm and fuzzy just to think about it.
 
 
+105 # RMDC 2016-09-12 13:23
Kucinich for President. I always like Kucinich better even than Sanders. But the Demo party redistricted him out of congress. He's one of the really best elected officials.

Kucinich is exactly right. In order for the US to heal the deep wounds created by 9-11 and the onslaught of neo-con policies following in the aftermath, we need to be honest and prosecute those who lied. We need to make amends with the nations we have bombed and destroyed. We need to withdraw all US troops from around the world. The US needs dramatic changes.

The real fundamental problem and the root cause of nearly all other problems in the world right now is US imperialism. It is the cause of the epidemic of heroin and cocaine. It is the cause of the tens of millions of refugees and displaced people.

End US imperialism and the quality of life for everyone on earth will improve, even for those who profit from the military industrial complex.
 
 
+43 # David Starr 2016-09-12 14:01
@RMDC: Yes. The U.S., as an empire, has gotten bolder since the dissolving of the USSR, and thus the changing of the international situation.
 
 
+4 # djnova50 2016-09-13 08:53
I voted for Dennis Kucinich in each primary race he was in. Now, I am supporting Jill Stein and the Green Party.
 
 
+83 # jimmyjames 2016-09-12 13:39
I always admired Dennis for his calling for a "Department of Peace". He was a true maverick when it came to calling for a peaceful world and to stop US intervention all over the world. This call for 9/11 truth is a call for the US to stand up and take blame for killing and causing to be killed millions of men, women, and children. Our fascist government needs to switch gears fast to avert the blow back by the rest of the world.

9/11 was an inside job and everyone who is paying attention knows this....the whole world knows this!
 
 
+28 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 16:21
#

Yah, but Kucinich isn't really calling for 9/11 Truth. He's really only calling for "Iraq truth", or simply for how 9-11 was used to lie us into Iraq. He clearly still believes the official 9-11 conspiracy theory, and/or he doesn't have the courage to say that he doesn't, and that we need to get to the bottom, and the top, of what REALLY happened on 9-11 and who was REALLY responsible for it.

And let's not leave out Afghanistan, too; which is glaringly absent from this article and discussion (in the comments section of same), as if the, truly-unprovoke d (since the Afghanis had little or nothing to do with 9-11 as well) attack, occupation and war of aggression ["the supreme international (AND U.S.) crime" according to both U.S. and international law(s)] against Afghanistan was "justified". "Al CIAduh(!)" just wanted more M.E. pipelines, control of the M.E. oil, and ALL of the profits from the Afghan opium production and sale, etc.

#
 
 
+31 # RMDC 2016-09-12 19:02
John Browne -- correct. And any investigation into the lying that got the Iraq war started would unravel the whole damn thing. Justice needs a crack to drive its wedge into. Iraq is generally the easiest, since Saddam was doing everything he was required to do by the UN. Too many people don't understand Afghanistan or the Taliban who offered to turn Osama and his group over to an international court if the US would produce some evidence or even a probable cause. The US would not do that.

It is clear that Bush and his neo-con masters were determined to start a world war -- and a war that could never have an end until the US was exhausted and bankrupt. We are well on the way.
 
 
-2 # Caliban 2016-09-13 13:10
I'm confused again. Why would Bush and his "neo-con masters" want "a war that could never have an end until the US was exhausted and bankrupt"?

Neo-cons want wealth, dominance and mastery, don't they? But exhaustion and bankruptcy? Never heard that before.
 
 
+3 # WPOH#1 2016-09-14 11:22
Quoting Caliban:
I'm confused again. Why would Bush and his "neo-con masters" want "a war that could never have an end until the US was exhausted and bankrupt"?

Neo-cons want wealth, dominance and mastery, don't they? But exhaustion and bankruptcy? Never heard that before.


Check the bank accounts of all the major players, and their Swiss accounts if you could, and I would bet my eyes that they have all personally hugely profited from activities, knowledge, books & speaking tour, lucrative university jobs and expanding investment assets... all since and through the depletion of the US treasury by means of their "endless war" doctrine. As usual, follow the money. These people, in spite of their rhetoric, are NOT PATRIOTS.
 
 
-1 # Jim at Dr.Democracy on Facebook 2016-09-18 00:16
Caliban, what you're overlooking is that, if you were a global financial player, nations are meaningless. In the process of heaping debt on the backs of the American people, these people are free to put the money they suck out of us and our children to work anywhere and in any way they wish. Kuwait? Qatar? Dubai? Monte Carlo? London? Hong Kong? Singapore? New York?

In short, for the super wealthy, it doesn't matter a whit whether one nation's treasury or another's is plundered by these endless wars to control financial assets.
 
 
+52 # tedrey 2016-09-12 13:40
A large section of our administration, military, economy, and media have been so committed to the mideast bloodbaths that they cannot give them up. Discussing ending the wars would publicly reveal the full catalogue of what they have done. They can't allow that. So they will disguise their guilt under new evils they will call necessary.

Shakespear recognized what I call the "MacBeth Syndrome." They are "in blood Stepped in so far that, should [they] wade no more, Returning were as tedious as go o'er".
 
 
+39 # bardphile 2016-09-12 13:50
Yes, and like his wife, many Americans are still sleepwalking as the forest advances.
 
 
+38 # REDPILLED 2016-09-12 15:19
And this entire election charade is "full of sound and fury, signifying nothing" but the absence of democracy here.
 
 
+21 # RobertMStahl 2016-09-12 13:42
Yes! Speak out.
 
 
+53 # wrknight 2016-09-12 13:46
"...let us, too, observe that as a result of 9/11 an unjust war was visited on the people of Iraq who, at the hands of the US government, and leaders in political parties, have, in war, endured and continue to suffer from the equivalent of hundreds of 9/11s."

Not hundreds - thousands, if not tens of thousands.
 
 
+25 # economagic 2016-09-12 15:39
One thousand 9/11s would be about 3 million deaths, probably in the ball park.
 
 
+36 # Blackjack 2016-09-12 13:47
So, who in power now (or then) wants us to know the truth? No one that I know of. Until the powerful make the demands for truth, it will likely never happen because their means of deception is so large and has so many tentacles that it is nearly impossible to penetrate. I say "nearly" because I must hang onto some shred of hope.
 
 
+29 # Ted 2016-09-12 15:24
Those in power know the truth, it's US they want to keep in the dark.
 
 
+16 # tedrey 2016-09-12 22:00
The rest of the world has long known.
 
 
+38 # Auteur47 2016-09-12 13:56
Still no wider discussion of the Saudi connection to 911 and their involvement with extreme groups like ISIS. The West has been covering for them long enough.
 
 
+42 # jdd 2016-09-12 14:03
C'mon Dennis, the answer is right in front of you. On Friday, the House unanimously voted to pass the JASTA bill allowing the families of the victims to sue Saudi Arabia for its role in the 9/11 attack. The vote came after intense lobbying efforts by the 9/11 families, and by former Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL), who headed the Joint Congressional Committee whose 800-page investigation of 9/11 in 2002 produced the 28-page chapter.

JASTA —unless vetoed by Obama, as he threatens—will allow the plaintiffs to finally present their evidence against Saudi Arabia, a right which had been denied under the claim of "sovereign immunity." Saudi funding and support for the 9/11 terrorists was publicly exposed when President Obama was forced to release the "28 pages" on the funding of the attack, which had been classified by Presidents Bush and Obama for 13 years. The lie of 911 is, as you say, the big lie upon which all the others are based. Obama's role, like Bush's, in supporting the terrorist organizations created and funded by the Saudis, which include ISIS as well as Al-Qaeda in order to achieve the goal of regime change against countries considered outside of U.S. and British control, now stands exposed. Discovery requests can make public the hundreds of thousands of additional pages collected by the FBI which, as Senator Graham has openly stated, were denied and then suppressed. The genie is already out of the bottle.
 
 
+36 # Questions, questions 2016-09-12 15:48
Yes, the Saudis were likely involved at some level - as they have been involved in all sorts of terrorist/jihad ist activity over decades - but let's not forget other likely actors here.

How about the Pakistanis, who seem to have harbored almost every supposed major player in Al-qaida, from Sheik Khalid to Bin Laden himself, and who's intelligence agency (ISI) chief reportedly wrote a check to Mohammed Atta for 100K?

Or the Israelis, who evidently had agents all around NYC that day (but curiously, none in the WTC vicinity itself, despite being home to several Israeli companies), several who turned out to be Mossad operatives getting caught (and later released home) after being seem videotaping and celebrating the WTC destruction.

Yes, there were likely several foreign governments in on and contributing to the 9/11 deception, but the evidence indicates the folks WITHIN our own one had to be pulling the strings to make it happen successfully.

Here's hoping that Dennis' truth commission gets instituted someday, to get to the bottom of all this subterfuge and mayhem - before they continue to kill millions more, and subjugate the rest of us in a tightening police state!
 
 
-16 # dascher 2016-09-12 16:56
I suppose your source for the Mossad agents having celebrated the WTC destruction is Donald Trump? He probably confused the imaginary Palestinians celebrating in New Jersey and your Mossad agents celebrating in Manhattan.

I am pretty sure I saw footage of Dick Cheney celebrating with his oil industry buddies in Houston.
 
 
-16 # dascher 2016-09-12 18:00
Hmmm. I suspect the same 3 folks who gave this a thumbs down gave my other posts the same 3 thumbs down. This baloney about Mossad agents and no Israelis being in the WTC is just pure anti-semitic bullshit and nobody shouldn't fall for it. Plenty of Jews were killed in the WTC ... how does that fit your conspiracy?
 
 
+20 # Questions, questions 2016-09-12 19:59
Actually, one source for this odd story is ABC News, which cited sources in the FBI and elsewhere. As I've posted elsewhere on this site, perhaps this is where Mr. Trump got the idea - confusing Israelis with Muslims of course (he is rather confused/mixed up generally,no?), though he got the location (NJ) right. You can still read the story here: http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=123885&page=1
And here's more coverage of it, from a source RSN readers might appreciate:
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/2/8/cheering_movers_and_art_student_spies

As for whether any Israelis (I didn't say Jews - you did) were killed at ground zero, as someone who descends from a long line of Rabbis I can spot anti-Semitism as well as anybody, but I think it's pathetic when anybody automatically conflates any criticism of Israel or Israelis with that particular charge.

Records show that there were 2 Israeli companies, Zim Shipping and Clear Forest, leasing space at WTC on 9/11 - though curiously Zim had moved almost all their operations and personnel to Norfolk, VA - just one week prior to 9/11. Apparently, neither co. had any employees injured or killed on 9/11. So that's why I said no Israelis were killed (yes, many US Jews have dual citizenship, but that's a different matter). Even more oddly, employees of another Israeli co. in the area (Idigo) reported getting prior warnings on 9/11, which you can read here:
http://www.haaretz.com/odigo-says-workers-were-warned-of-attack-1.70579
 
 
+19 # Questions, questions 2016-09-12 20:19
And just to be clear, I'm not suggesting at all that Israel was somehow "behind" 9/11. But there is good evidence that Mossad had prior knowledge (as several foreign intel outfits later said they did) and likely acted on that info when it could affect their agents or citizens - as any such agency hopefully would. I'd like to think they might have warned counterparts working for their key ally as well, but maybe someone in US intel just forgot to pass it along (right....).

BTW - there were several reports that key Americans (ex. AG John Ashcroft and SF Mayor Willie Brown) were warned not to fly that day, and Mr. Silverstein (the WTC lease holder) didn't show up for work as usual at the twin towers that day. Even odder, there was supposed to be a meeting of his property outfit that morning to discuss possible terrorism threats (recall they'd been bombed before), but the meeting got cancelled due to someone's (Silverstein's? ) absence.

As Alice said, "curiouser and curiouser..."
 
 
+24 # jdd 2016-09-12 18:11
Maybe, but the verifiable evidence available so far has implicated the Saudis, but that's the point of pre-trial discovery. They are they only suspects but there are leads to their collaborators, We know the FBI and CIA are sitting of vast amounts of suppressed data. One place to look is the Al-Yamamah deal worked out between the Saudis and the British by Margaret Thatcher, an oil for arms barter deal in the hundred billion dollar range. Part of it was a $2 billion slush fund controlled by Bandar bin-Sultan (aka Bandar Bush )from which some of the hijackers were paid. Also we can look at the role of Cheney, who immediately demanded to attack Iraq and repeatedly quashed any attempts at following leads pointing to the Saudis.
 
 
+15 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 16:33
#

"...(F)unded by the Saudis [AND 'AL CIAduh(!)---in other words, U.S. government and U.S.-allied involvement in perpetrating and covering up 9-11]'..."!!!!!

#
 
 
-23 # dascher 2016-09-12 16:53
whoa!!! Now the Saudis brought down the towers with controlled demolition charges? And they put all those guys on the plans as a diversion?

I guess we'll have to wait for the testimony of all the people who saw lots of Arabs roaming up and down the towers planting the charges.
 
 
+17 # Questions, questions 2016-09-12 20:45
No, no, no - that was likely done by the WTC security outfit, Securacom, just prior - headed up by none other than GW Bush's little brother Marvin and cousin Wirt Walker (you just can't make this stuff up!). And several WTC workers reported that power outages and evacuations took place in the weeks prior to 9/11 - plenty of time to plant high-energy explosives like nanothermite and thermate (residue of which WAS found in ground zero dust). A nifty short video on how this could have been done can be found here:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/30205.html

And as far as the "guys on the plan[e]s" go, you might have heard that a whole bunch of them were Saudis - or at least folks posing as Saudis, as several by the same name and face have turned up alive since, claiming their IDs were stolen. Can you say "patsies?"

The truth (or at least a whole lot of incriminating evidence!) is out there - just a short google search away....
 
 
-5 # kyzipster 2016-09-13 23:13
I think I've learned all that I need to know about this forum in this 9-11 thread. Sheesh.
 
 
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+11 # wrknight 2016-09-12 20:37
So, did the Saudi airline grease the skids for the hijackers to gain access to the Boeing 757 flight trainer? (We are not talking Microsoft Flight Simulator here.) Those trainers are reserved for the airlines and not just any numbnuts can walk into them with a bag of cash and request training. They are extremely expensive devices that normally have full schedules training prospective airline pilots. There's a lot of logistics that goes with that kind of training and someone (usually an airline) has arrange it, pay for it (usually by contract) and schedule it in advance.

So who arranged for the hijackers to get through the gate, past the receptionist and guards, into the training facilities and convince the training crew to let them "fly" one? If it was arranged by some airline (the most plausible explanation), I can guess which one.
 
 
+2 # Questions, questions 2016-09-13 18:31
Actually, it was probably the CIA, or folks within the CIA, or CIA contractors (the one Mohammed Atta and perhaps others trained at in FL was long suspected to be CIA-affiliated. And Atta's best drinking buddy there was a self-admitted CIA agent.

Of course, it's possible some of the supposed hijackers were operating under false identity/false pretenses (some by that name/face evidently are still alive - and at least one as I recall was employed by an airline, probably Saudi - as he is a Saudi citizen).

But it's even more likely that NO ONE was really trained and flying the hijacked planes, as they were all remote control-abled, and professional pilots say NO ONE could have done the maneuvers these plane appear to have done, especially amateurs/flunki es like Hani Hanjour (the supposed flight 77 pilot).

So again, the Saudi connection may turn out to be more circumstantial/ financial than operational, until we learn more about it than the 28 pgs./existing research.
 
 
+42 # walt 2016-09-12 14:27
We continue to live with the shame of an illegal, preemptive, needless and criminal invasion of Iraq. How long will Americans remain silent and refrain from demanding accountability??
4500 military deaths, tens of thousands of injuries, tens of thousands of civilian deaths, a destabilized Middle East, and a deficit of $3 to 7 trillion are not minor matters.

That invasion was thirteen years ago. It's long past time to demand answers especially as we see the same war hawks lobbying and controlling the government while pressing for more war.

Let's act now and not live with the shame.
 
 
+10 # John Puma 2016-09-13 01:16
More like a couple million civilian deaths (certainly if you include WJ Clinton's 8-yr maintenance of Poppy Bush's "economic sanctions" on Iraq that were used to "soften up" the target and which, presumably, were supported completely by HR Clinton.

There will be more atrocities to come, for quite a long time, due to the effects of depleted uranium-the gift that keeps on giving.

Add, also approximately 5 million refugees.

Did anyone notice the ghoul Madeleine "half-million dead Iraqi children were worth it" Albright in the Clinton entourage at the Dem convention?
 
 
+25 # jazzman633 2016-09-12 15:06
I agree with Walt. Where do I sign a petition calling for the criminal indictment of Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Feith, and the other war criminals?

And to you you 9/11 conspiracy theorists -- if it was an inside job, then what happened to the planes and passengers?
 
 
+30 # Ted 2016-09-12 15:29
"...what happened to the planes and passengers?"

Let's find out. I second the motion that Kucinich has called for, "a 9/11 National Commission on Truth and Reconciliation" .
 
 
+11 # jdd 2016-09-12 18:38
We don't need to start all over. The Saudis are now on the hot seat. Let's see where it goes.
 
 
+14 # Radscal 2016-09-12 22:59
I have little doubt that "the 28 pages" was a deliberately-pl anted "limited hangout."

No doubt Saudi Arabia wrote some of the checks, but they couldn't have prevented FBI from knowing that NSA and CIA had tracked terrorists into the US. They couldn't have caused airport security to fail 19 out of 19 times. They couldn't have shut down fighter aircraft interception.

They couldn't have shut down the Pentagon's defense systems, or convinced investigators that an airliner buried itself into a quarry in PA with nary a scrap around the crater, nor even burnt grass around it.

And they couldn't have caused the Federal Government and Corporate Media to cover up the whole thing for all these years.
 
 
-12 # economagic 2016-09-12 15:42
Uh, with the exception of whatever hit the Pentagon, we KNOW with certainty what happened to the planes. The remains of one were scattered on the ground.
 
 
+18 # Ted 2016-09-12 16:21
We do???

Are you saying that after 15 years someone finally found verifiable wreckage that actually matches the specs (unlike the lone engine "found" impossibly positioned on a manhattan street corner) of the planes claimed to be lost?

This is big news!

Last I heard two of the planes were still listed as working assets of the owners!
 
 
-20 # dascher 2016-09-12 16:58
And the live footage watched by millions of the 2nd plane hitting the towers was obviously computer generated. Just watch it on any High Def TV and it will be as clear as watching Star Wars and seeing that it was shot on a sound stage.

Where do people come up with this crap from??
 
 
+41 # WPOH#1 2016-09-12 15:43
Yeah.... you are right. What happened to the alleged plane at the pentagon and the one at Shanksville PA? According to the government conspiracy theory, the Shanksville plane completely disappeared into a hole in the ground leaving no trace of an airplane. The one at the pentagon allegedly disappeared into a 16 to 20 foot hole in the pentagon and left no trace of anything resembling a plane. Official conspiracy theory says it was completely consumed in a super fireball but if you look at all photos the building inside and out show no trace of any such inferno. In addition, no one can produce a single frame of a photo of any plane hitting the pentagon. And where was the air force on 9/11? Who turned off the surface to air missile batteries that surround the pentagon? All just coincidences, of course. I mean who are you going to believe? Your own eyes or some politicians who have a strong vested interest to cover their criminal asses?
 
 
-9 # Caliban 2016-09-12 18:39
There were multiple eyewitnesses plus citizen videotape showing the airliners hitting the Towers. Are you suggesting all that was faked?
 
 
+5 # WPOH#1 2016-09-13 11:06
Quoting Caliban:
There were multiple eyewitnesses plus citizen videotape showing the airliners hitting the Towers. Are you suggesting all that was faked?


You misread my post. NO PHOTOS OF ANY PLANE HITTING THE PENTAGON have been released. The pentagon is surrounded by multiple surveillance cameras from every angle.
 
 
0 # Caliban 2016-09-13 13:21
Sorry. I did misread you.
 
 
-6 # carytucker 2016-09-13 07:31
Quoting WPOH#1:
. . . if you look at all photos the buildingIn addition, no one can produce a single frame of a photo of any plane hitting the pentagon. I mean who are you going to believe? Your own eyes or some politicians who have a strong vested interest to cover their criminal asses?


My sister-in-law works for Army Materiel Command, and on that sad day in September lost three friends to your 'phantom' plane. I recall a seminar with Hannah Arendt too many years ago at the University of Chicago, addressing perennial issues of political thought, and one of my classmates wrote a piece claiming that such discussions were pointless until we'd established who killed Kennedy and who killed King: politics as conspiracy.This discussion reminds me of that. Those claiming, e.g. that what occurred was actually a product of master conspirators armed with Los Alamos supplied weaponry, show the same lack of imagination characterizing the Bush gang, though with a comic book sensibility that borders on the contemptible. Lunacy.
 
 
+4 # WPOH#1 2016-09-13 11:48
So it is best to stick to facts. Not hearsay or official doctrine, just facts based in reality. If one does that then the official conspiracy story falls apart instantly.
 
 
+16 # Questions, questions 2016-09-12 21:40
Hey folks - you know it really doesn't matter to the gist of the insider conspiracy theory (as opposed to the demonstrably false "official" conspiracy theory) what ACTUALLY happened to the planes.

The "smoking gun" physical evidence of nano-thermite explosives coupled with the impossibility of the building collapses due simply to gravity, and the absurd flight path of flight 77 (supposedly flown by an amateur pilot, no less) through the most protected airspace anywhere, into the pentagon's least important (unless you're an accountant looking for that $2.3 trillion they couldn't account for!) and least vulnerable spot (it had just been reinforced against blasts) SHOULD be plenty enough to suggest something screwy was going on that day!

The refusal of gov. agencies to produce any physical confirmation of the plane wreckage or video of the pentagon crash (we know it existed - and was confiscated) is certainly troubling, but we also know that existing crash photos/video were doctored or misinterpreted (the guy who had proposed the hologram/no-pla ne idea at WTC recently admitted he was wrong, and other claims have been debunked).

For all we know (and we know they do it!), these more outlandish accounts re: 9/11 could be simply psy-ops projects and trolling designed to throw us off and make "truthers" look foolish. So lets just stick to the "known knowns" and question the "known unknowns"(as Rummy would say) rather than getting distracted by the "unknown unknowns," OK?
 
 
+4 # WPOH#1 2016-09-13 11:50
"For all we know (and we know they do it!), these more outlandish accounts re: 9/11 could be simply psy-ops projects and trolling designed to throw us off and make "truthers" look foolish."

Exactly. That stuff happens all the time too. Why wouldn't it? It's part of framing the discussion and managing perception.
 
 
+16 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 15:11
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Is that so, Dennis? You're right-on about Iraq, but what is your idea of what "...the full truth of what happened on 9/11, and who was responsible..." means? When you did due diligence on Iraq, did you also do due diligence on 9-11 and investigate 9/11 Truth? No, you didn't, did you; and you still haven't, after fifteen frigging years, investigated the real truth concerning 9-11, have you? So, you haven't truly, fully and completely done due diligence on 9-11. Otherwise, you would be speaking up for, including right here in this present article, 9/11 Truth. But, on the contrary, you still believe the government's official story [/lie(s)], aka the official conspiracy theory and fairy tale, of what allegedly happened on 9-11 and who was allegedly responsible, don't you (as if I didn't already know the answer; which is, yes, you DO still believe the 9-11 lies)?

So, Dennis Kucinich, though you caved to the "Kool-Aid" about "'Odrona''Care' " and to the official 9-11 conspiracy theory foisted on us to this day by the U.S. government, covering up the entirety of the real truth concerning 9-11, you did face the truth about and stood up against Iraq. Well, enough of your allowing and supporting the (continued and continuing) obfuscation concerning 9-11, and stand up for the whole, real truth concerning 9-11.

ARCHITECTS & ENGINEERS FOR 9/11 TRUTH

http://www.ae911truth.org/

AND NOW THE APOCALYPSE!: Living In A World Full Of Lies

http://www.form-legal.org/

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-4 # Robbee 2016-09-12 15:35
dennis, for a path forward, thanks!
 
 
+11 # Gord84 2016-09-12 15:44
Check this one out regarding a need for another "Pearl Harbor"
http://www.newsofinterest.tv/video_pages_flash/politics/misc_neocon_globalist/wolfowitz_pnac_nph.php
 
 
-13 # janie1893 2016-09-12 15:52
John Browne--did you ever ask why and how many Vietnamese were killed by American troops and armaments?

Lordy, we are selective about what raises our ire, are we not?
 
 
+14 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 17:23
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What, "rhetorically-q uestioning", are you talking about?! The article, and ostensibly "we", are talking about 9-11 and the illegal wars that STEMMED FROM it, NOT those illegal wars of aggression PRIOR TO 9-11. But, to answer your disingenuous, attempted-obfus cation question, OF COURSE I have asked, and investigated, "...why and how many Vietnamese (Cambodians and Laotians) were (murdered) by American troops and armaments...", but that is NOT the topic of discussion here.

Are you also going to claim that the author of this article should have discussed Vietnam in light of 9-11?! Stop seeking to sidetrack from the real subject matter in question here, as well as attempting to sidetrack from the truth, particularly and/or especially 9/11 Truth. We aren't fooled by your idiocy.

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+19 # jockey 2016-09-12 16:14
kudos to everybody's comments except for kiddie (I wonder how much trolls get paid?) John Browne is right about Dennis Kucinich always ducking the 9/11 inside job issue. I met him once and asked him about it, and he ducked the question then by saying "it's about the oil isn't it". Anyway...perhap s he values his life? I always thought that was the reason he caved on single payer health care.

BTW, Jill Stein, green party presidential candidate just announced if elected she would launch a legitimate 9/11 investigation:
https://sputniknews.com/us/20160911/1045184973/jill-stein-truth-september-11-attacks.html
Pipe dream I know, but wouldn't it be something if the people finally had enough and voted her in? Of course if she won, we'd have to finally deal with the rigged no paper trail voting machines because you know the controlling elite would flip the votes. Oh and then there is the electoral college...anoth er convenient mark against true democracy.

As far as "bringing Bernie back" -- don't forget he declined the green party's offer to be presidential candidate (and WHO he threw is support to).
 
 
+16 # AshamedAmerican 2016-09-12 17:53
"Anyway...perha ps he values his life? I always thought that was the reason he caved on single payer health care".

Interesting. I have been wondering for several months why I have not seen his name. Normally, Kucinich is all over my inbox. The wait then ended with 15 sentences from his facebook page. I guess that he was informed that he should avoid this election cycle altogether. Otherwise he should be persuading Willie Nelson, Ed Asner and everyone he could to get behind Stein as visibly as possible...so goes part of my pipe dream. If he is enlisted to help defeat Trump, I will donate a bucket of vomit to the Clinton campaign.
 
 
+23 # Aliazer 2016-09-12 16:33
What amazes me from this blog is that most people, indeed, know deep in their heart, that a governmentally aided and abetted conspiracy occurred on September 11, 2001.

It was planned and implemented by policy makers and neocons while being supported by a corrupt ruling establishment(w all street, military/indust rial complex, zionists, globalalists,al ong with the media) who will, singly or together, subvert America for profit, personal wealth and/or devotion to another foreign power.

Realizing all of the above, it still amazes me how thoughtful and knowledgeable folks, spend valuable time and continue taking sides with a political process whose principal participants have been part of that establishment, while assuring their continuing power and political control!!
 
 
-12 # dascher 2016-09-12 17:03
all the usual commenters could not possibly be mistaken about the clever controlled demolition engineered by the gang that couldn't do anything else halfway right.

And do you really think the corruption of the US political system began on 9/11? and that Wall St., MIC, Zionists, media barons suddenly started running things when GWB took the Presidential oath?
 
 
+20 # futhark 2016-09-12 17:27
No, that started way back, probably at least as far as the Truman administration, which created the CIA. By the Eisenhower years this organization was using assassination routinely as a way of eliminating foreign leaders that presented potential obstacles to the exploitation of resources by American companies. This was working so well that they may have started using it domestically, perhaps beginning on November 22, 1963.

See Russ Baker's book "Family of Secrets", which traces the community of Wall Street bankers, petroleum extraction and refining companies, military contractors, Russian emigres, and the state surveillance apparatus through a complex net of relationships, eventually resulting in domestic assassinations, the Iran-Contra affair, and the promotion of two Bush family members into the Oval Office.
 
 
+16 # Observer 47 2016-09-12 20:11
Also suggest L. Fletcher Prouty's book, THE SECRET TEAM, about the beginnings of the CIA and the crimes it committed through the '60s.
 
 
+8 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 17:34
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"Dascher", STFrackUp you either extremely-deep- in-avoidance-an d-denial-of-tru th idiot or agent provocateur, disinformation shill-troll idiot!!

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-14 # dascher 2016-09-12 17:50
are you referring to my post? what specific misinformation and/or denial of truth do you see in my post? Naaah... you must be talking about futhark's response with which I have no problem agreeing.

By the way, theories are not facts.
 
 
-7 # dascher 2016-09-12 17:57
all those thumbs down for what? Of course, the official story is bullshit. That does not make every theory anybody can imagine "the truth". I do not happen to believe that the cabal represented by the Bush family nor the other oligarchs could have secretly demolished the WTC buildings nor that it would make any sense to bother sending Saudis in planes into the WTC and the Pentagon and the whatever the 4th plane was supposed to hit just to get the American people whipped into a frenzy to justify an invasion of Iraq. The U.S. press was happy to beat the anti-Saddam drums without all that mess - and millions of people around the world and even in the U.S. of A. were able to see the complete lack of connection between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks... so why bother? At least put one Iraqi into one of the planes.

NO gummint commission is ever going to find and/or tell us the truth about what happened on 9/11 and why. If that is not obvious, then you have not been paying attention for the past 100 years or so.
 
 
+13 # Questions, questions 2016-09-12 22:12
Quoting dascher:
The U.S. press was happy to beat the anti-Saddam drums without all that mess - and millions of people around the world and even in the U.S. of A. were able to see the complete lack of connection between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks... so why bother? At least put one Iraqi into one of the planes.

yeah, that's what Noam Chomsky said too (why no Iraqis?) to a friend of mine who pressed him. Hey, even the CIA can't always manufacture exactly the lies they might want (or as Rummy said, "you go to the war with the army you have, not the one you'd want.")

And you clearly haven't the read the PNAC report on America's future (referenced above), which stated that the public wouldn't buy something as outlandish as an unprovoked war in the Mideast without "a new Pearl Harbor." And all the "shock and awe," along with a bunch of phony intel, sure worked wonders. Yes, millions didn't buy into a 9-11/Iraq connection even then, but many millions more (especially the poor gullible military recruits) did, or simply looked the other way in the face of such flimsy/phony evidence.

You did get the last part right - that's why we need an INDEPENDENT commission (you know, like a special prosecutor), instead of a fake one headed up by Henry Kissinger (the original offer) or Condi's crony.
 
 
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+11 # Questions, questions 2016-09-12 22:17
See my first response to "dascher" above.

Video on how they could pull it off:
http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/30205.html
 
 
+9 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 22:33
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Again, as you have undoubtedly been told (many?) times before, but conveniently "forget", there WERE people who noticed. Several if not many witnesses have reported that they observed many unusual workers going in and out of the Twin Towers, and many other unusual things going on, in the weeks immediately prior to the morning of 9-11. And remember too, those people worked for Marvin Bush's security company that was in charge of the WTC complex at that time, and at the time of 9-11. Very convenient, eh?

Recall also that one of the primary pro-Hitler, pro-Naziism Americans, along with other Yale Skull and Bones, "al CIAduh(!)" deep state shadow government players, who illegally and traitorously funded Hitler's regime, was G.W., Jeb and Marvin Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, who was and/or were protected by Congress and got away with it scot free [and is how the Bush family first became millionaires, and G.H.W. Bush became a major player in "al CIAduh(!)", eventually became its director, and finally became a POTUS, a founder and leader of the Carlyle Group, and a major player in the Bilderburg Group and in global government, the choosers of U.S. and other national presidents, and those who are now bringing about the enslavement of the U.S. and the world under one-world government and one-world religion (all of the world's religions combined under Catholicism, the most evil cult of counterfeit "Christianity" on the face of the planet].

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+11 # John S. Browne 2016-09-12 22:34
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You think these "most-evil-powe rful-and-riches t-people-in-the -entire-world" couldn't perpetrate 9-11, especially with admitted trillions of dollars missing from the Pentagon at the time (which Rumsfeld literally made a joke out of---me thinks many "Congresscritte rs" pockets were lined with millions if not billions of dollars to start with, because they all laughed along with him and thought it was very funny)? Think again.

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+16 # Radscal 2016-09-12 23:32
If the contractors were lugging boxes marked "EXPLOSIVES" then people would have noticed.

But with contractors constantly moving equipment around, doing major construction projects as new tenants moved in, etc. it wouldn't be hard to pull off.

And these explosives would have been placed inside the center of the core columns area, where access was not open to unauthorized persons.

Especially since there were planned power downs that shut off all cameras and alarms for many hours at a time.

Someone posted this. Spend 18 minutes and see some possible explanations:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/videos/the-911-files/911-wiring-the-buildings.html
 
 
0 # Capn Canard 2016-09-15 08:55
Radscal, agreed. I would submit that the workers doing such work were probably foreigners, then there is the benefit that such workers would be shipped out of country and protected by not being subjugated without some form of judicial extradition. Hence no American to see anything, hear anything, or say anything.
 
 
0 # John S. Browne 2016-09-15 13:30
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Not foreigners, but people who were probably eliminated [or, if it was foreigners, Mossad workers who have no desire to out the truth because of how much they love and celebrate its outcome, who have been forgotten (the "dancing-Israel is" across New York Harbor in New Jersey celebrating the whole thing) and faded into the woodwork, and who are so loyal to the cabal that they wouldn't out it under any circumstances anyway].

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+22 # futhark 2016-09-12 17:20
Green Party presidential nominee Dr. Jill Stein calls for a new investigation into the 9/11 attacks.

http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2016/09/jill-stein-calls-for-a-new-investigation-into-911-attacks/
 
 
+18 # ericlane 2016-09-12 17:42
Dennis Kucinich makes a critically important plea. Anyone with half a brain outside of Washington knew that the invasion of Iraq was a scam perpetrated by either a bunch of ideological wackos or, more accurately, money grubbing pieces of crap with no compete contracts like Dick Cheney. If I knew out here that this was all a bunch of lies what other explanation could there be? That Saddam had nuclear weapons? We know that's not true. We invaded a country with no justification and no one has paid any price. We need a commission. The problem would be who would be on that commission? And would it just be a whitewash?
 
 
+16 # Radscal 2016-09-12 23:15
"We invaded a country with no justification and no one has paid any price."

Which is why we were able to go on to destroy Libya, Sudan and Syria, etc.

We need to get rid of these warmongering Wall Street servants.
 
 
+24 # Logic 2016-09-12 18:55
I miss the better America that we once had.

In the 60s, 70s, early 80s, the US was becoming more like Europe. The society was becoming more open and interesting. We got policies that would benefit the public. We got the metric system. I tanked up in liters.

Then the lid came down. The sequence was (Dulles Bros), Bush Daddy, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Bush Daddy as Pres, and pretty soon the culture was lost.

They hammered it down. Right-wingers bought up almost all the radio stations in the US. The Music stopped. Law became more repressive.

We could get the spirit back if we opened things up to solve 911.
 
 
-5 # RnR 2016-09-13 17:27
I'm anticipating many thumbs down, but America *was* better under Bush - Russ Feingold and Dennis Kucinich were still in congress.

Barry O'Bomber is the one who got them out.
 
 
+3 # Radscal 2016-09-14 14:24
In that many things have continued to get worse under Obama, I agree. At least when Bush II was President, liberals openly opposed the actions of the US Empire. But once Obama moved into the White House, protests largely withered away.

And when the continuing neoliberal policies were protested by the nationwide Occupy Movement, the White House coordinated a brutal nationwide police crackdown that likely would have been widely criticized if Bush II had done the same.
 
 
+4 # RnR 2016-09-15 08:39
*And* the little Wall Street/Intellig ence Agency shill (O'Bomber) is trying to sneak the TPP through the lame duck session. He's such a role model isn't he?
 
 
-3 # Bryan 2016-09-13 20:41
Re: conspiracy theories

I also dont buy the official version of 911. But some people go too far in their theories, make them too big and involving too many people--which could not have been kept secret.

I am in the they 'let it happen' camp.... iow they did nothing about all the warnings coming out because they wanted a Pearl Harbor...they didnt set it up and manage it but they knew something was coming so they let it happen. An easy no finger prints way to commit the crime.

I am not saying there wern't a few people in certain positions/agenc ies that didn't 'help it along'. If you wanted to collapse a bridge for instance all you have to do is remove a few critical struts and wait for a heavy enough traffic to collapse it.

There were too many missing struts on 911---every single government agency 'failed' at the same time, on the same day, in perfect union.

What are the chances?
 
 
+3 # Floridatexan 2016-09-15 07:33
The chances get much more reasonable when you consider that the conspiracy began in the White House. Watch these two videos...here's the link to the first one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8y_qdw5pzU
 
 
+1 # Mike Palecek 2016-09-14 04:33
Consider this:

"America Nuked on 9/11"

jamesfetzer.blogspot.com
 
 
-6 # John Escher 2016-09-14 07:40
If all the conspiracists in this thread were more sure of themselves they would be able to make their case in a few rather than a billion words. One would also think that among their large numbers there would be at least one Pulitzer Prize calibre investigative reporter or forensic detective.

You can perhaps tell that I don't like these people even if they are correct. They blather and blather. One even wonders if they truly want to get the bottom of the matter. If the big questions were solved, would they still be able to blather?

Amazing how quickly the subject of Kucinich's essay-- investigation similar to that by the Brits-- shifted to technical questions associated with hoax. Again, people don't want investigation. They prefer blather.
 
 
+4 # Floridatexan 2016-09-15 08:03
It's been 15 years and I have never stopped investigating, sifting through tons of mis- and disinformation. Building 7 is a smoking gun, but so is Building 6, which was apparently gutted but left standing. What could do that except a directed energy weapon? So, BOTH explosives and DEW's were used...leaving nothing to chance. Why was Cheney in charge of air defense? Why did Rumsfeld hide in his office at the Pentagon? Why did Giuliani order the removal of the evidence? Why were New Yorkers told that everything was safe? This is a complicated event with many nuances. It doesn't lend itself to simple explanations.
 
 
+1 # Capn Canard 2016-09-15 08:31
Hear, hear.

Directed Energy Weapons look to be a frightening reality. After all, most of the WTC complex was mostly converted into dust which looks to be the source of continuing death among those ground zero workers following 9/11/2001.
 
 
+4 # Capn Canard 2016-09-15 08:42
Pulizter Prize? LOL!

How did winning a Pulizter for CIA involvement ins South Central LA crack epidemic work out for Gary Webb?

Nope, the so-called reputable newz organization wouldn't hire Webb, after he investigated the criminal actions of CIA and powerful government interests.

God forbid. Hence Webb career, and Webb himself, was destroyed.

Any MSM journalist who did such an investigation, would be assured that it would be the journalist's last investigation and their career path destroyed.

Until we comprehend how the carcinogen of money effects the outcome...

So an MSM investigation into 9/11 isn't gonna happen. Ever. We have to rely on ourselves.

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+1 # davidschandler 2016-09-22 16:17
Quoting John Escher:
If all the conspiracists in this thread were more sure of themselves they would be able to make their case in a few rather than a billion words.


http://911speakout.org
 
 
+1 # Capn Canard 2016-09-15 08:29
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Dennis Kucinich bravely stands alone.

I am shocked that after 15 years we are still surrounded by cowards.

Congress and the MSM are captured and corrupted by their alliance to the super wealthy.

They show little more than a gross incompetence and groveling, wormlike compliance to the will of parasitic banksters and the carcinogenic capitalist model.

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0 # stevee19304@gmail.com 2016-10-07 22:47
A few things that MIGHT be important:
1. PNAC wanted Clinton to invade Iraq.
2. LOTS of PNAC folks wound up in the Bush Administration.
3. They said they needed a "New Pearl Harbor" to get public support for the invasion.
4. It was over a year before the Bush Admin. would allow any investigation of the attacks.
5. The 9/11 Commission was not allowed to delve into what happened before the attacks. Their job was to prevent future attacks.
6. LOTS of folks in the Bush Administration got rich because of the attacks. Think Cheney and Halliburton.
7. We need a real investigation into what led up to the attacks and how to prevent future attacks
8.The FBI had NO proof that Sadam Hussein had anything to do with the attacks.
 

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