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Pilger writes: "As the U.S. government plunges toward war with nuclear-armed Russia and/or China, there is an unsettling silence - or unnerving consensus - regarding the potential extinction of human existence."

The Russian military. (photo: Picture Alliance)
The Russian military. (photo: Picture Alliance)


Eerie Silence About a New World War

By John Pilger, Consortium News

28 May 16

 

As the U.S. government plunges toward war with nuclear-armed Russia and/or China, there is an unsettling silence — or unnerving consensus — regarding the potential extinction of human existence, as John Pilger observes.

eturning to the United States in an election year, I am struck by the silence. I have covered four presidential campaigns, starting with 1968; I was with Robert Kennedy when he was shot and I saw his assassin, preparing to kill him. It was a baptism in the American way, along with the salivating violence of the Chicago police at the Democratic Party’s rigged convention. The great counter revolution had begun.

The first to be assassinated that year, Martin Luther King Jr., had dared link the suffering of African-Americans and the people of Vietnam. When Janis Joplin sang, “Freedom’s just another word for nothing left to lose,” she spoke perhaps unconsciously for millions of America’s victims in faraway places.

“We lost 58,000 young soldiers in Vietnam, and they died defending your freedom. Now don’t you forget it.” So said a National Parks Service guide as I filmed last week at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington. He was addressing a school party of young teenagers in bright orange T-shirts. As if by rote, he inverted the truth about Vietnam into an unchallenged lie.

The millions of Vietnamese who died and were maimed and poisoned and dispossessed by the American invasion have no historical place in young minds, not to mention the estimated 60,000 veterans who took their own lives. A friend of mine, a Marine who became a paraplegic in Vietnam, was often asked, “Which side did you fight on?”

A few years ago, I attended a popular exhibition called “The Price of Freedom” at the venerable Smithsonian Institution in Washington. The lines of ordinary people, mostly children shuffling through a Santa’s grotto of revisionism, were dispensed a variety of lies: the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved “a million lives”; Iraq was “liberated [by] air strikes of unprecedented precision.” The theme was unerringly heroic: only Americans pay the price of freedom.

No Debate about Endless War

The 2016 election campaign is remarkable not only for the rise of Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders but also for the resilience of an enduring silence about a murderous self-bestowed divinity. A third of the members of the United Nations have felt Washington’s boot, overturning governments, subverting democracy, imposing blockades and boycotts. Most of the presidents responsible have been liberal – Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter, Clinton, Obama.

The breathtaking record of perfidy is so mutated in the public mind, wrote the late Harold Pinter, that it “never happened. … Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening it wasn’t happening. It didn’t matter. It was of no interest. It didn’t matter.”

Pinter expressed a mock admiration for what he called “a quite clinical manipulation of power worldwide while masquerading as a force for universal good. It’s a brilliant, even witty, highly successful act of hypnosis.”

Take Obama. As he prepares to leave office, the fawning has begun all over again. He is “cool.” One of the more violent presidents, Obama gave full reign to the Pentagon war-making apparatus of his discredited predecessor. He prosecuted more whistleblowers – truth-tellers – than any president. He pronounced Chelsea Manning guilty before she was tried. Today, Obama runs an unprecedented worldwide campaign of terrorism and murder by drone.

In 2009, Obama promised to help “rid the world of nuclear weapons” and was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. No American president has built more nuclear warheads than Obama. He is “modernizing” America’s doomsday arsenal, including a new “mini” nuclear weapon whose size and “smart” technology, says a leading general, ensure its use is “no longer unthinkable.”

James Bradley, the best-selling author of Flags of Our Fathers and son of one of the U.S. Marines who raised the flag on Iwo Jima, said, “[One] great myth we’re seeing play out is that of Obama as some kind of peaceful guy who’s trying to get rid of nuclear weapons. He’s the biggest nuclear warrior there is. He’s committed us to a ruinous course of spending a trillion dollars on more nuclear weapons. Somehow, people live in this fantasy that because he gives vague news conferences and speeches and feel-good photo-ops that somehow that’s attached to actual policy. It isn’t.”

Obama’s Legacy

On Obama’s watch, a second Cold War is under way. The Russian president is a pantomime villain; the Chinese are not yet back to their sinister pig-tailed caricature – when all Chinese were banned from the United States – but the media warriors are working on it.

Neither Hillary Clinton nor Bernie Sanders has mentioned any of this. There is no risk and no danger for the United States and all of us. For them, the greatest military build-up on the borders of Russia since World War Two has not happened. On May 11, Romania went “live” with a NATO “missile defense” base that strengthens the ability of first-strike American missiles to strike at the heart of Russia, the world’s second nuclear power.

In Asia, the Pentagon is sending ships, planes and special forces to the Philippines to threaten China. The U.S. already encircles China with hundreds of military bases that curve in an arc up from Australia, to Asia and across to Afghanistan. Obama calls this a “pivot.”

As a direct consequence, China reportedly has changed its nuclear weapons policy from no-first-use to high alert and put to sea submarines with nuclear weapons. The escalator is quickening.

It was Hillary Clinton who, as Secretary of State in 2010, elevated the competing territorial claims for rocks and reef in the South China Sea to an international issue; CNN and BBC hysteria followed; China was building airstrips on the disputed islands. In its mammoth war game in 2015, Operation Talisman Sabre, the U.S. practiced “choking” the Straits of Malacca through which pass most of China’s oil and trade. This was not news.

Clinton declared that America had a “national interest” in these Asian waters. The Philippines and Vietnam were encouraged and bribed to pursue their claims and old enmities against China. In America, people are being primed to see any Chinese defensive position as offensive, and so the ground is laid for rapid escalation. A similar strategy of provocation and propaganda is applied to Russia.

A ‘Feminism’ of Bloody Coups

Clinton, the “women’s candidate,” leaves a trail of bloody coups: in Honduras, in Libya (plus the murder of the Libyan president) and Ukraine. The latter is now a CIA theme park swarming with Nazis and the frontline of a beckoning war with Russia. It was through Ukraine – literally, borderland – that Hitler’s Nazis invaded the Soviet Union, which lost 27 million people. This epic catastrophe remains a presence in Russia. Clinton’s presidential campaign has received money from all but one of the world’s ten biggest arms companies. No other candidate comes close.

Sanders, the hope of many young Americans, is not very different from Clinton in his proprietorial view of the world beyond the United States. He backed Bill Clinton’s illegal bombing of Serbia. He supports Obama’s terrorism by drone, the provocation of Russia and the return of special forces (death squads) to Iraq. He has nothing to say on the drumbeat of threats to China and the accelerating risk of nuclear war. He agrees that Edward Snowden should stand trial and he calls Hugo Chavez – like him, a social democrat – “a dead communist dictator.” He promises to support Clinton if she is nominated.

The election of Trump or Clinton is the old illusion of choice that is no choice: two sides of the same coin. In scapegoating minorities and promising to “make America great again,” Trump is a far-right-wing domestic populist; yet the danger of Clinton may be more lethal for the world.

“Only Donald Trump has said anything meaningful and critical of U.S. foreign policy,” wrote Stephen Cohen, emeritus professor of Russian History at Princeton and NYU, one of the few Russia experts in the United States to speak out about the risk of war.

In a radio broadcast, Cohen referred to critical questions Trump alone had raised. Among them: why is the United States “everywhere on the globe”? What is NATO’s true mission? Why does the U.S. always pursue regime change in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine? Why does Washington treat Russia and Vladimir Putin as an enemy?

The Trump Hysteria

The hysteria in the liberal media over Trump serves an illusion of “free and open debate” and “democracy at work.” His views on immigrants and Muslims are grotesque, yet the deporter-in-chief of vulnerable people from America is not Trump but Obama, whose betrayal of people of color is his legacy: such as the warehousing of a mostly black prison population, now more numerous than Stalin’s gulag.

This presidential campaign may not be about populism but American liberalism, an ideology that sees itself as modern and therefore superior and the one true way. Those on its right wing bear a likeness to Nineteenth Century Christian imperialists, with a God-given duty to convert or co-opt or conquer.

In Britain, this is Blairism. The Christian war criminal Tony Blair got away with his secret preparation for the invasion of Iraq largely because the liberal political class and media fell for his “cool Britannia.” In the Guardian, the applause was deafening; he was called “mystical.” A distraction known as identity politics, imported from the United States, rested easily in his care.

History was declared over, class was abolished and gender promoted as feminism; lots of women became New Labour MPs. They voted on the first day of Parliament to cut the benefits of single parents, mostly women, as instructed. A majority voted for an invasion that produced 700,000 Iraqi widows.

The equivalent in the U.S. is the presence of politically correct warmongers on the New York Times, the Washington Post and network TV who dominate political debate. I watched a furious debate on CNN about Trump’s infidelities. It was clear, they said, a man like that could not be trusted in the White House. No issues were raised. Nothing on the 80 per cent of Americans whose income has collapsed to 1970s levels. Nothing on the drift to war.

The received wisdom seems to be “hold your nose” and vote for Clinton: anyone but Trump. That way, you stop the monster and preserve a system gagging for another war.

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+138 # grandlakeguy 2016-05-28 12:26
I am convinced that, based on her past record and her overbearing need to show the world how tough she is, Hillary Clinton will set forces in motion that will lead to a catastrophic nuclear exchange.
As far as Bernie Sanders is concerned one has but to look at his impassioned speech on the Senate floor urging his colleagues to vote no on an Iraq war authorization. This shows us Bernie's sensibilities.
Hillary famously supported the attack on Iraq!
My theory regarding his evasiveness on the topic of military adventurism in this primary season is that he is sensitive to being labeled as "surrendering to the terrorists" or other such charges from the hyped up militarists (such as HRC) that he is opposing.
We already know Clinton's inclinations when it comes to unleashing our military might on foreign populations (remember that she referred to the impending attack on Iraq as a "business opportunity") and what Trump might do militarily is unknown as he seems to change his mind frequently on any given subject.
I fear that Hillary's saber rattling would spiral out of control.
Clearly Bernie Sanders is our best bet to survive the next Presidential term!
He seeks to better the lives of Americans not to turn our country into a smoking radioactive ruin.
 
 
+119 # Radscal 2016-05-28 13:49
I am betting the farm on your idea that Sanders would govern even more progressively anti-war than he is campaigning.

I always get some down votes and/or criticisms when I point out the spottiness of Sanders' voting record on foreign policy/war. John Pilger is more adamant in his criticisms than I, but we on the progressive left need to at least recognize these criticisms from the real left or "extreme left" if that makes one feel better.

But I have watched Sanders' rhetoric evolve even since his campaign began. He still wants to fight ISIL (instead of cutting off its funding sources and halting all weapons sales/deliverie s to the region). But he has softened on Assad.

He still wants Muslims to be the "boots on the ground," but is now criticizing Saudi Arabia's US-sponsored war in Yemen.

His long-stated hope for a "two-state solution" in Palestine/Israe l is now buttressed by openly calling out Netanyahu as a right wing extremist and requiring Israel to leave at least most of the occupied territories.

I like to believe that this evolution has been encouraged by the contacts with strong lefty and anti-war activists he's meeting and working with in his campaign.

I don't believe it helpful to hammer him on these issues, but I do believe we must keep ourselves, and therefore him honest and growing.
 
 
+49 # lfeuille 2016-05-28 19:10
"I am betting the farm on your idea that Sanders would govern even more progressively anti-war than he is campaigning."

There was an article on Truthout right after Bernie's rather mild rebuke to Israel at the NY debate. I don't remember the author, but among others he interviewed someone who had been following Bernie since he was mayor of Burlington. This person remembers him using much stronger language to criticize Israel aggression back then. But once he got to Washington he apparently decided that it was a lost cause and would just distract from everything else he wanted to do. It may be that he has been self censoring and now feels it's ok to at least raise the topic. This might explain why his foreign policy isn't totally coherent in some cases.
 
 
-18 # rocback 2016-05-28 19:27
Obama and Clinton have done pretty good pushing back our clock.
Their deal with Iran reduces Irans nuclear capability substantially. They will reduce their uranium by 98%. We get unfettered comprehensive inspections. Iran gives up most of its centrifuges. It reduces it's "breakout" time from 90 days to more than a year.

We get unfettered comprehensive inspections.Rus sia and China have agreed in advance we can immediately reimpose sanctions if they don't comply.

They negotiated a new START Treaty, signed by presidents Barack Obama and Dmitry Medvedev in April 2010, which was an important achievement. A follow-on to the 1991 START treaty, New START commits both countries to substantial reductions in their nuclear arsenals.

There is still much work to be done and its tough with a hawkish Republican Congress but to say they have done nothing is wrong.
 
 
+70 # Radscal 2016-05-28 20:13
1. If ONLY we could reinstate JFK's similar requirement from Israel to inspect their nuclear facilities.

2. I worry about HRC's stated plan to work with Netanyahu to decide when Iran has "broken" the treaty sufficiently for them to bomb/invade Iran. Israel was NOT a signatory of the treaty, and should have NO input as to when or if it was broken, let alone what the appropriate reaction should be.
 
 
-24 # kalpal 2016-05-29 11:23
Did Israel make the statement or did HRC? Your antipathy towards Israel is based in your parental role models' contempt for Jews.

Israel has never threatened to eradicate any nation. Can you say the same for the members of the Arab League?
 
 
+25 # Radscal 2016-05-29 16:02
There are Jews in my family. I have already voted for one Jew to become President of the US, and will be doing so again this year.

So take your false self-righteousn ess somewhere else.

HRC said she looks forward to establishing the parameters for bombing or invading Iran with Israel. Israeli leadership has threatened to bomb Iran over and over again. Don't pretend you don't know that.

Here's Netanyahu threatening as the P5+1 Agreement was nearing completion.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4643822,00.html

Israel's ruling coalition has most certainly stated that they will never permit a Palestinian State to ever even exist. Meanwhile, all members of the Arab League, and the PA, Fatah and even Hamas have all agreed to recognize the State of Israel. But you know that, too and are merely here to confuse others with your Hasbara.
 
 
+43 # politicaleconomist 2016-05-28 20:40
It was not Clinton but Kerry who pushed the Iran deal back on track and completed it.

More to the point of the article, you say the "New START commits both countries to substantial reductions in their nuclear arsenals" but the main point of the article is that Obama is doing the EXACT OPPOSITE OF THIS.
 
 
-34 # rocback 2016-05-28 20:52
Wrong, Hillary started it and did the heavy lifting.
 
 
+22 # Nominae 2016-05-28 23:42
Quoting rocback:
Wrong, Hillary started it and did the heavy lifting.

Sayin' it ain't *provin' it, windbag ! ;-D
_
 
 
+5 # Nominae 2016-05-28 23:40
Quoting crocback:
Obama and Clinton have done pretty good pushing back our clock.

Only to a sniveling, dissembling, empty-headed Troll like our own RSN Baghdad Bob (crocback) would a *TRILLION DOLLAR NUCLEAR BUILDUP seem to be : "pretty good [at] pushing back our clock." ;-D *GAWD ! ;-D

More like "pretty good at *STOPPING our flippin' clock", crocback ! These freakin' weapons are *NOT the M-80s you used to make yourself feel Macho in High School, Scooter ! ;-D

I FLEW Nuclear Weapons for the Navy from 1967 to 1971, Slick, and you know absolutely *LESS THAN *NOTHING about this subject.

Of course, abject ignorance of a topic has never shamed a vapid and inane TROLL into shutting his/her pie hole in the *PAST, Precious, but you *Seriously need to get BACK to your freakin' Chuckle-Numbers , charts, graphs, and "fuzzy math".

*THIS is a subject for real, no-sh!t grownups, My Precious, and *you simply do *NOT QUALIFY to opine among *that group.
_
 
 
+2 # jimmyjames 2016-05-28 19:30
Israel is not the problem. The USA is the problem.
 
 
+45 # dbrize 2016-05-28 19:57
Quoting jimmyjames:
Israel is not the problem. The USA is the problem.


Well, parsing aside, the Likudniks are most certainly a problem.
 
 
-13 # kalpal 2016-05-29 11:27
While I abhor the likudniks, they do not vote in any elections in the USA. Perhaps you don't either. The mythical power of RW Jews at manipulating the USA is still mythical and always will be.
 
 
+16 # dbrize 2016-05-29 11:56
Quoting kalpal:
While I abhor the likudniks, they do not vote in any elections in the USA. Perhaps you don't either. The mythical power of RW Jews at manipulating the USA is still mythical and always will be.


"Power" and "influence" are relative terms. The power of Lukudniks and their allies in AIPAC to influence policy makers in the US is in no way "mythical".
 
 
+15 # A_Har 2016-05-29 16:07
$3.1 billion in aid to Israel this year is no myth.
 
 
+11 # Nominae 2016-05-29 20:43
Quoting A_Har:
$3.1 billion in aid to Israel this year is no myth.

That's a stone cold *FACT, and it's over $3 Billion
(with a "B") *EVERY FREAKIN' YEAR !
_
 
 
0 # John S. Browne 2016-05-30 18:45
#

Oh, please! Look at Jew, David Rockefeller, admitting to treason against the U.S. as a Jewish, "New World Order (NWO)" U.S. citizen, thus proving that he and "RW" neoliberal, corporate-fasci st Jews DO have an inordinate influence on U.S. and global politics, and manipulate the U.S. and the world, seeking to illegally and treasonously overthrow national sovereignty, overturn human and civil rights, and liberty and freedom, and bring about global government and its enslavement, the opposite(s) of freedom and liberty (and, being that MANY OF THEM ARE U.S. citizens and/or dual-citizens with the U.S. and Israel, they DO vote in U.S. elections---thu s further proving that you live in la-la-land and don't know what you're talking about on this matter):

"...For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationali sts' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it..."! --David Rockefeller in and/or from his autobiography, 'Memoirs', page 405.

(Continued below)
 
 
0 # John S. Browne 2016-05-30 19:29
#

He can get away with admitting this treason because these people are "untouchable", and are protected by the "Fourth Reich" corporate-fasci st government that they were primarily-instr umental in erecting in the U.S. and around the world, thus additionally showing that they have considerable influence therein.

#
 
 
+6 # virtualaudio 2016-05-30 13:05
It is easy for people to see others through their lens of expectation & desire, but weighing all the statements, actions and general philosophies of both Sanders & Clinton, it seems to me that Sanders leans toward a peaceful solution and a less dangerous world; Clinton, on the other hand, subscribes to 'The Great Game' approach.. a geo-political philosophy more or less akin to PNAC: America is the exceptional, indispensable nation, and we should position ourselves to control both the course of other nations and the resources vital to keeping Americans happily driving their hummers across the land.. and damn the torpedoes. I prefer the former approach. The US has been pissing off (and pissing on) the rest of the world ever since the establishment dems replaced Henry Wallace with Truman in '44, and the Dulles brothers ascended to such powerful influence in foreign relations.
It is time for some sanity. We have been devoid of it for so long, a sane person sounds mad to many. Enough is Enough.
 
 
-3 # wantrealdemocracy 2016-05-29 22:43
How can you say that Bernie is our best bet to survive the next Presidential term? Bernie says wonderful stuff about our domestic affairs---but NOTHING about the coming war against Russia and China!! That is a war we will not win---no one will. It will be a nuclear war and that is END TIME FOR ALL LIFE ON EARTH.

Our only chance to save our nation and our lives is to NOT VOTE FOR ANY DEMOCRAT OR ANY REPUBLICAN. These two parties are really one and the SAME. Our only hope is to vote for minor parties or independent candidates. I think Jill Stein of the Greens is our best choice.
 
 
+29 # RicKelis 2016-05-28 13:01
There's a reason for the silence about a new world war. The "new" war that will be most consequential is the cyberwar currently underway. And that war is being conducted by stealth, in what the military minds call the Fifth Dimension: Information - Cyberspace.


The US Military recognizes at least five dimensions of warfare for which it is responsible:

1. Land
2. Sea
3. Air
4. Space
5. Information (probability space)

So it's easy to miss the war going on because it is happening primarily in the Fifth Dimension: Information - Cyberspace, which is a stealth dimension by nature. At least to the Pentagon. And that's where the wars of the future will be won.
 
 
+38 # Radscal 2016-05-28 13:55
That cyber war is already being fought. Remember Stuxnet?

For that matter, with the US either bombing or fighting to some degree in up to 130 countries in any given year, I would describe that as a "hot" World War.

Of course, both of those have plenty of room for escalation. But none of those can compare to tens of thousands of nuclear warheads exploding across the globe.

And THAT is a very real possibility. In fact, it appears to be a pre-ordained path that HRC would very likely take us down (both literally and figuratively).
 
 
-11 # kalpal 2016-05-29 11:28
The musical groups 5th dimension denies being involved in any military activities. Now go sing a few songs and stop wasting our time.
 
 
+13 # RicKelis 2016-05-28 17:26
As I said, " it's easy to miss the war going on because it is happening primarily in the Fifth Dimension: Information - Cyberspace, which is a stealth dimension by nature." That goes for the extent to which it is occurring -- right now.
Cyber command is concentrating mostly on Russia and China, although Obama just recently tasked them to handle the Syria-Isis-mide ast problem.

5th Dimension warfare goes after command structure and operation, with the goal of stopping any weaponry at the source, before the execution of the device, e.g., a nuclear bomb. And the military has all kinds of weapons not publicized that can be put into a operation to stop anything like a nuclear attack. There are space weapons like the "rod of god," for example - they can easily be deployed if necessary.
That's more than a real possibility. It's happening now, as Radscal has pointed out, just toa greater extent than commonly realized.
 
 
-30 # ericlipps 2016-05-28 17:41
Quoting grandlakeguy:
I am convinced that, based on her past record and her overbearing need to show the world how tough she is, Hillary Clinton will set forces in motion that will lead to a catastrophic nuclear exchange...
I fear that Hillary's saber rattling would spiral out of control.
Clearly Bernie Sanders is our best bet to survive the next Presidential term!
He seeks to better the lives of Americans not to turn our country into a smoking radioactive ruin.

I have a thousand bucks that says that if Hillary Clinton is elected we'll still be here in 2024 and the only smoking ruins will be tobacco addicts.
 
 
+28 # tedrey 2016-05-28 17:55
A fool's bet. If you're wrong, neither you nor we will be around to settle bets.
 
 
+18 # REDPILLED 2016-05-28 20:05
So catastrophic climate disaster and nuclear escalation will be curbed?

How nice to believe.
 
 
+2 # Nominae 2016-05-28 23:54
Quoting REDPILLED:
So catastrophic climate disaster and nuclear escalation will be curbed?

How nice to believe.


Damned *Skippy ! And 37 Vestal Virgins will *also sing me to sleep every night ? What the hell is there *Possibly "NOT to like" ? ;-D
_
 
 
-6 # kalpal 2016-05-29 11:30
The Guardians Of Privilege will be fuming if she is still living in the White House in 2024.
 
 
+5 # Radscal 2016-05-29 16:06
She clearly is a "Guardian Of Privilege."
 
 
-1 # John S. Browne 2016-05-30 19:44
#

Or a primary puppet and/or minion of the "Guardians of Privilege", the Rockefeller, Bilderberg and "al CIAduh(!)"/NSA (et al.) ilk, including all of the top additional Satanic movers and shakers in the multi-national corporate-fasci st, global government hegemony, run by many Jews like the Rockefellers, and many non-Jews as well, also known as "the New World Order (NWO)" and "the 'Fourth Reich'"; neo-Nazi corporatism, or corporate-fasci sm, on steroids, seeking global domination, and absolute subjugation and control, of everyone and everything the world-over.

#
 
 
0 # Phillybuster 2016-05-31 12:47
Satanists, Jews and Nazis all working together to rule zee vorld! Who'd have thunk it?
 
 
+4 # A_Har 2016-05-29 17:20
Quoting ericlipps:
I have a thousand bucks that says that if Hillary Clinton is elected we'll still be here in 2024 and the only smoking ruins will be tobacco addicts.

Yeah, a Flack for HRC is bound to say such things. Meanwhile the article RSN posted that we are commenting on notes this at the end:

"The equivalent in the US are the politically correct warmongers on the New York Times, Washington Post, and network TV who dominate political debate. I watched a furious debate on CNN about Trump's infidelities. It was clear, they said, a man like that could not be trusted in the White House. No issues were raised. Nothing on the 80 per cent of Americans whose income has collapsed to 1970s levels. Nothing on the drift to war. The received wisdom seems to be “hold your nose” and vote for Clinton: anyone but Trump. That way, you stop the monster and preserve a system gagging for another war."

And you ignore it.
 
 
+25 # Desiderata 2016-05-28 17:54
A very sobering article.
How does one go about stopping this madness ?

And Obama is in Hiroshima .
 
 
+18 # FIRSTNORN1 2016-05-28 19:13
Quoting Desiderata:
A very sobering article.
How does one go about stopping this madness ?

And Obama is in Hiroshima .

I fear there is NO WAY to stop it except by destroying the Military, Industrial Complex and getting money out of politics. Perhaps those states with some sense of decency (many, but not all, of which are in the "North") should begin to realize that the 'North' won the battle, but lost the War. Let those states who want to form a "Confederacy" go and do so. The capitol could be Montgomery or Dallas.
 
 
+6 # indian weaver 2016-05-29 07:09
Dream on.
 
 
+2 # Depressionborn 2016-05-30 07:03
careful FIRSTNORN1

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
 
 
+9 # Nominae 2016-05-28 23:56
Quoting Desiderata:
And Obama is in Hiroshima .

Yes. *Desperately sucking up to the Japanese in hope of getting them solidly onboard with the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

That in *addition to shoring up his new "Asian Pivot" Policy which is a ploy devised to militarily "corner" China.

You know - not like China and *JAPAN have *any ingrained animosities that go back literal THOUSANDS of YEARS, or anything ! ;-D

Obama's trip also implicitly lets Japan off the hook for the "Rape of Nanjing"
in China, an event as recent as WWII.

*That Japanese atrocity is almost a "baby grudge" to the Chinese, who, like most Asians, have a concept of time that runs more in terms of *Dynasties elapsed than in mere *years elapsed. ;-D

The Asian countries BRUTALIZED by Japan during WWII *definitely do *NOT see Hiroshima as placing Japan in *any kind of "victim" status. ;-D

Obama is selling Japan an International *Image Make-over in exchange for *Them backing *HIS new depredations into the Far East.
_
 
 
+7 # Kootenay Coyote 2016-05-29 13:59
& remember, the Japanese WW II brutalization was a direct descendant of the West(esp. US & Britain)'s manipulation of Japan in the late 19th C to help pummel China & Korea into trade with the West.
 
 
+5 # Nominae 2016-05-29 19:58
Quoting Kootenay Coyote:
& remember, the Japanese WW II brutalization ...

*Excellent point, Coyote ! Absolutely *so !

But the human mindset (even among High Schoolers in re: Freshman "Initiations") that seems to take the position that "It was done to *ME,
so now I *GET TO do "IT" to someone *ELSE" is something that
*must be outgrown among our Species.

Our *brains are still *wired to the program: "Caveman One point 0".

*NO new "upgrades" in literal *EONS ! ;-D

Our *technology has improved in leaps and bounds, but if we *honestly observe our *social "development" we are *still BACK in the Caves.

After all, what *IS a Nuclear Weapon but just *another (albeit *vastly more expensive, *incredibly hi-tech) CLUB with which to beat our neighbor over the HEAD - just as we *DID while still inhabiting the Caves - but *then, simply with *lower tech stock ?

Therefore : "They" did it to *ME, So now I *GET to do it to *THEM" is a justification that has been GOING *ON throughout history SINCE we were all occupying caves, and *That is what must *now be outgrown.

*THAT is what this "new paradigm" which many people speak of, is *Really "all about".

And, before anyone enters the objection out loud - YES, what we call "human nature" *CAN CHANGE.

It is even *NOW doing so with amazing speed and alacrity, and yet I *sincerely sympathize with the perspective that it does NOT *seem
to be changing *NEARLY fast enough !

But, "changing" it *IS.
_
 
 
+8 # Radscal 2016-05-29 16:12
All absolutely true. But as I mentioned on another thread, history has no specific start point. As you suggest here, Chinese people brutally invaded the Japanese many times over the centuries.

The cycle must be stopped because it is harmful. Affixing blame on a "race" or culture is likely not helpful in ending that cycle.
 
 
-8 # kalpal 2016-05-29 11:33
You could pull a Harry Truman on Obama so long as he still there. Then you can apologize profusely and call it an accidental event since you meant to drop it on Kim Jung Un
 
 
+13 # reiverpacific 2016-05-28 18:16
It's as if the US (shadowed obediently by mini-me UK under Blair and now Gawd-'elp-us, Cameron) spends it's time, like the schoolyard bully and it's shadow clipe (Scottish for fink or tattle-tale) moving about the world poking countries in the chest to provoke a response as an excuse to lash out at someone -anyone-using "all means necessary" including nukes, Obama's recent declarations at Hiroshima whilst allegedly re-arming with a trillion $ worth of "smaller" warheads notwithstanding.
The iron fist in the velvet glove with knobs on.
And Clinton MK11 approves wholeheartedly, rubbing her already blood-soaked hands, reminding me of poor Hastings in Richard 11 after being condemned to summary execution without trial by the "Bloody Boar" Gloucester (Richard) with the resigned and enigmatic phrase, "Lead me to the block, bear him my head; they smile at me who shortly shall be dead!"
 
 
+34 # SenorN 2016-05-28 18:27
Today, I've read this article on RSN which basically makes Obama sound like an unprincipled mass murderer and a second article on DailyKos which asks whether he is just a "great" president or the "greatest" ever!
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/7/21/1404343/-Barack-Obama-Great-President-or-the-Greatest-President
As Paul Simon sang, "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest."
 
 
+30 # lfeuille 2016-05-28 19:14
Daily Kos is a lost cause. My upsetting to me is that Mother Jones has joined the Bernie bashing. I didn't bother to read the crap that published about him today.
 
 
+35 # Anonymot 2016-05-28 19:38
From time to time I'm attracted to a Daily Kos headline & read it. They used to be progressive, but they've completely sold out to the official line and the Clintons.
 
 
+23 # Radscal 2016-05-28 20:24
I posted this the other day:

Bear in mind that Kos, Markos Moulitsas Zúniga was in "training" for CIA from 2001 to 2004, at which point he embedded in the Howard Dean Campaign.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Markos_Moulitsas_Zúniga

In this interview, "Kos" calls CIA "a very liberal institution."

http://kos-cia-transcript.blogspot.com/2010/05/markos-c-alberto-moulitsas-zunigas-cia.html
 
 
+13 # Nominae 2016-05-29 00:23
Quoting Anonymot:
From time to time I'm attracted to a Daily Kos headline & read it. They used to be progressive, but they've completely sold out to the official line and the Clintons.

Kind of like Paul Krugman, whom I *also never read anymore for *exactly that same reason.
_
 
 
+35 # Radscal 2016-05-28 20:21
The loss of Mother Jones to the Democratic Party Machine is especially troubling to me. It really was a progressive, leftist muckraking publication.

And my Grandfather had fought alongside the real Mother Jones in unionizing the coal mines. So, I feel a particular sense of treason from the magazine that took her name.
 
 
+9 # librarian1984 2016-05-29 07:45
Yea, what is that about?

I have to think Mother Jones herself would be quite upset by how her name is being used.
 
 
-32 # rocback 2016-05-28 19:02
This author is concerned about silence but he is totally silent about Crimea when unmarked Russian soldiers seized the Crimean peninsula in Ukraine. Despite denials from Russian President Vladimir Putin at the time that the troops belonged to Russia, he later admitted that he deployed them.

Then he is silent about Putin escalating support to separatists in eastern Ukraine that resided in areas with a majority of ethnic Russians. Reserve officers in the Russian military, who also had ties to the Russian military intelligence agency known as the GRU, commanded the rebels in attacks. He is silent that Russia massed more than 40,000 troops on Ukraine’s border and deployed about 7,000 to 10,000 Russian soldiers inside Ukraine.

While Ukrainian forces achieved some victories early in the conflict he is silent about a profusion of Russian-supplie d advanced weapons that helped the separatists gain the upper hand by the summer of 2014. These included T-64 and T-72 battle tanks, shoulder-fired anti-aircraft missiles known as MANPADS, and the Strela-10 armored vehicle with surface-to-air- missiles and machine guns.

Additionally he is silent about the sneaking into Ukraine of the Russian-supplie d Buk, a long-range anti-aircraft missile system, that shot down Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 in July 2014, killing nearly 300 people.

Why would he write on this subject and not even mention Crimea?
 
 
+32 # jimmyjames 2016-05-28 19:39
rocback - you are nothing more than a MSM mouthpiece....I hear enough of that propaganda bullshit on the TV not to hear it again on RSN.....OMG, we are hearing from a perfectly brainwashed, brain-dead American right in front of our eyes! God help us!!
 
 
-14 # rocback 2016-05-28 20:55
Rather than just name call why not address Crimea?
 
 
+26 # Aliazer 2016-05-28 21:38
Rockback, Crimea was merely a response to the naked coupe d'etat aided and abetted by Hillary, Newland and, of course Obama, as well as others in the U. S. power structure who had decided that a regime change was necessary in Ukraine, and to unseat a popularly elected president who was not following orders from the West.
 
 
+3 # Nominae 2016-05-29 00:31
Quoting rocback:
Rather than just name call why not address Crimea?

That' right, jimmyjames, rather than exercise your *OWN Freedom to post the comments that *YOU choose to air here on RSN, why not allow our resident Hillary "Correct The Record" Troll to *DIRECT and *CONTROL *you into having the discussion that *HE wants to have ? ;-D

crocback, did you get stuck with Weekend Duty @ the
"Correct the Record" Shop ?

You Trolls *usually take the weekend off !
So no slack for the *REST of us this weekend, huh ?

That's O.K., Powder-puff, we are *ready to rumble ! ;-D
_
 
 
-7 # rocback 2016-05-29 13:28
third grade must have let out early today.
 
 
+1 # A_Har 2016-05-29 16:18
Quoting rocback:
third grade must have let out early today.

Yeah, and YOU are in it.
 
 
-1 # Nominae 2016-05-29 20:17
Quoting rocback:
third grade must have let out early today.

Isn't that just adorable ? This is a crocback "cut and paste", to which *I always "cut and paste" the reply: "Oh, then THAT'S
why you now have the time to be posting here."

Could that *BE more precious ? It is like crocback and I are
singing a vapid and brain dead *duet !

Rock OUT, crockback ! ;-D
_
 
 
+6 # A_Har 2016-05-29 16:17
Quoting rocback:
Rather than just name call why not address Crimea?

The Crimeans overwhelmingly VOTED to JOIN Russia, you moron! Yet another FACT FREE comment.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/crimeans-vote-overwhelmingly-to-secede-from-ukraine-join-russia/

Most of the population there are ethnic Russians, and they saw that the Neonazis wanted to ethnically cleanse parts of the Eastern Ukraine of Russians and wanted no part of it. They wanted to KILL Ethnic Russians in the east of the country and they voted themselves OUT of that by joining Russia.

Christ--get a clue!
 
 
+31 # Anonymot 2016-05-28 19:47
I don't mind your being a Clinton knee-jerk troll, but really uniformed, not to say a hs sophomore. But most of the readers of RSN have followed the Clinton plans since she and the CIA unleashed Nuland who unchained Nazi Ukranian groups and the Ukranian public cuckolds on Maiden Square. They thought they could get away with making the Ukraine an armed American state on Russia's border. Again they and your ilk were wrong. If you can't add something intelligent to a discussion, learn to quietly listen - to all sides.

The unworkable Ukranian coup has cost us tens of billion.
 
 
-28 # rocback 2016-05-28 20:56
Would you rather have them under the Russian boot?
 
 
-27 # rocback 2016-05-28 21:33
Are you against the missile shield for Europe? Would you prefer them to not have it?
 
 
+13 # Nominae 2016-05-29 01:04
Quoting rocback:
Are you against the missile shield for Europe? Would you prefer them to not have it?

What a *screamingly hilarious bunch of warmed-over Cold War Bullshit *THAT IS, crocback ! ;-D

That *whole "Missile Shield" sh!t was a fucking DODGE even *during the latter half *OF the Cold War, you gullible RUSTIC ! ;-D

"The Missile Shield" is *OUR pusillanimous cover to *KEEP our BASES and *our NUKES *in every freakin' country *IN Europe ! And it *WORKS.

Even *IN the *shadow of our missiles and our myriad bases, Europeans walk around blithely thinking that they *are
SOVEREIGN Nations !

Remember when the U.S. *forced a flight *down OUT *OF "Sovereign" European airspace containing the freakin' PRESIDENT of "Sovereign" Bolivia, Evo Morales, just bcuz we *thot that Edward Snowden *MIGHT be ON BOARD ?

RIGHT ! When was the *last time you heard of *ANY freakin' foreign government forcing planes carrying Sovereign Leaders *DOWN OUT OF U.S. AIR SPACE ??

Yeah.... *THAT'S the difference between BEING the Country that *runs the Rackets v.s. being a fully controlled European "Satellite Subsidiary" *OF that Country.

The euphemism "Missile Shield" was a freakin' *LAUGHING STOCK in Naval Nuclear Aviation Circles even back when
*I was flying for the Navy, Nimrod, and I have been *OUT
of the Navy for 45 flippin' *YEARS ! ;-D
_
 
 
+2 # kalpal 2016-05-29 11:36
The missile shield has kept me from attacking Europe so I guess it does its job.
 
 
+1 # Nominae 2016-05-29 20:36
Quoting kalpal:
The missile shield has kept me from attacking Europe so I guess it does its job.

Dang, kalpal, in a case like *that, I hereby stand most *humbly and abjectly *corrected ! ;-D

*I thank ya, and I gotta believe that *Europe thanks ya as *well ! ;-D

It actually *did start out as a "Missile Shield", but then in what all of us who remember Viet Nam will recognize, a condition called "Mission Creep" set into Europe, *also during the 60s-70s, turning the phrase "Missile Shield", like the term "Military Intelligence", into an *absolutely hilarious oxymoron ! ;-D
_
 
 
+11 # Nominae 2016-05-29 00:38
Quoting rocback:
Would you rather have them under the Russian boot?

Yet *ANOTHER *scaremongering and *absolutely ridiculous rhetorical question, crocback !

The so-called "Russian Boot" has *NO INTEREST IN THOSE AREAS, you simple RUBE ! That whole *game is just *more Hillary Horseshit ! ;-D

The Cold War Is OVER ! Take a tranq and go back to bed, My Precious ! ;-D
_
 
 
+2 # kalpal 2016-05-29 11:35
No an American Boot made by craftsmen in Italy is much better.
 
 
+2 # Nominae 2016-05-29 20:40
Quoting kalpal:
No an American Boot made by craftsmen in Italy is much better.

It truly *IS hard to beat that fine Italian craftsmanship when it comes to leatherwork, to be *certain ! ;-D
_
 
 
+1 # kalpal 2016-05-29 11:34
Why is it imperative that anyone mention Crimea?
 
 
+6 # Billsy 2016-05-29 12:10
Crimea is ignored because Pilger, unlike rocback, realizes that to the Russians, this strategic naval base is much like Gitmo is to the U.S. When last I checked, neither you nor Clinton nor Obama promised to cede this illegally held territory back to Cuba. So, why should Russia roll over when threatened by Sec'y Clinton's CIA backed incursion into Ukrainian affairs, joining hands with neo-nazis to overthrow a democratically elected leader. He also understands that the peninsula was given to the Ukraine by a complacent Kruschev in an era when the national state was a soviet. You really need to bone up on your history.
 
 
+8 # Radscal 2016-05-29 16:20
Yep. Crimea had been a part of Russia since before there was a U.S. up until 1954. And even then, it was still part of the USSR until 1991.

So really, Crimea was only part of independent Ukraine for 22 years. And it has had a majority Russian population far longer than that.
 
 
+2 # Kootenay Coyote 2016-05-29 14:01
"Additionally he is silent about the sneaking into Ukraine of the Russian-supplie d Buk, a long-range anti-aircraft missile system, that shot down Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17 in July 2014, killing nearly 300 people."

if the Russians shot down MJ17, where's the US satellite evidence? Its lack is, for me, clear evidence of collision between the present Ukrainian fascist government & the USA.
 
 
+6 # Radscal 2016-05-29 16:25
Exactly. In addition to the undoubtedly careful surveillance the US had going on over the battles against our coup regime, NATO was running TWO separate military "drills" in and around Ukraine at the very moment MH17 was brought down.

And NATO PR releases before those drills specified that they were going to carefully monitor all commercial flights during the drills since they planned to have warplanes in the air and would be using live fire.

The day after the crash, Secretary Kerry said he had surveillance images of both the rocket launch and crash. And yet, those were never released. Instead, they relied on a couple of images and videos anonymously posted to social media.
 
 
+26 # Anonymot 2016-05-28 20:07
Well put, Mr. Pilger, although I've noticed a disturbing quietness about Iran which only Trump mentions - in the violently negative. Hillary and the DOD already had war plans for them when she was Secretary.

Our Generals are like firemen who don't become firement just to polish red trucks in the station house. Both groups need their adrenalin to run. The Generals only risk the lives of others. They need war to increase their power and pay. They have now escaped civilian control and they know that the only Deep State candidate going is Hillary and her occasional spouse. All of them are cocksure of their brilliance and their success in all ventures even though the Clintons, the Deep State, and the Generals have lost every war they started since WW II.
 
 
+21 # Radscal 2016-05-28 20:30
Spot on.

Or, as President Clinton's Secretary of State, Mad Albright said to Bush II's Secretary of State, General Colin Powell:

"What's the point of having this superb military you're always talking about if we can't use it?"
 
 
-9 # rocback 2016-05-28 21:30
Pilger erroneously states above that:

" No American president has built more nuclear warheads than Obama." I dont know if that is true but we have less than ever before the 50's.

Actually, there are less nuclear warheads than the 50's. Less than under Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon,Ford,Cart er, Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush.

We topped out under Johnson with over 30,000 warheads.

Under Bush it went down to just over 5,000. As of 2014 we were down to 4766.
 
 
-9 # rocback 2016-05-28 21:32
So it has gone DOWN under Obama.
 
 
+9 # Desiderata 2016-05-28 21:47
Quoting rocback:
So it has gone DOWN under Obama.


same same only different .....

" In 2009, Obama promised to help “rid the world of nuclear weapons” and was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. No American president has built more nuclear warheads than Obama. He is “modernizing” America’s doomsday arsenal, including a new “mini” nuclear weapon whose size and “smart” technology, says a leading general, ensure its use is “no longer unthinkable.”
 
 
-3 # kalpal 2016-05-29 11:38
Strange that Congress did not apportion any funds for these nuclear warheads, or is nucular warheads as they say in Texas.
 
 
+4 # Radscal 2016-05-29 16:32
The $1 Trillion dollars is spread out over 10 years.

"The Pentagon’s fiscal 2017 budget keeps all its nuclear modernization programs on track..."

"...will spend roughly $3.2 billion on programs to modernize and recapitalize the service’s nuclear submarines, bombers, Intercontinenta l Ballistic Missiles (ICBM) and nuclear equipped cruise missiles in 2017."

"In addition, the National Nuclear Security Administration (NNSA), a Department of Energy organization that handles development of nuclear warheads, requested $12.9 billion in funding."

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/policy-budget/budget/2016/02/10/pentagon-requests-322-billion-nuclear-weapons-17/80166570/

Though, the Government Accountability Office found the Pentagon budgets to underestimate the actual costs substantially:

http://www.gao.gov/assets/670/664004.pdf
 
 
+7 # Nominae 2016-05-29 07:03
Quoting rocback:
So it has gone DOWN under Obama.

From the article : "No American president has built more nuclear warheads than Obama." Dear me, *what a dilemma ... whom to
BELIEVE ??

A reporter with *impeccable credentials who has been studying these phenomena since 1968, or some wet-behind-the- ears Internet Troll hired by Hillary Clinton to *DOWNPLAY her WarMongering negatives...

Sssshhh now - I'm still *THINKING ! ;-D ;-D
_
 
 
-4 # rocback 2016-05-29 13:42
Actually between '64 and '69 we had over 30,000 nuclear warheads, the most ever.

If your hero really was that good he would know that.
 
 
+4 # Nominae 2016-05-29 22:57
Quoting rocback:
Actually between '64 and '69 we had over 30,000 nuclear warheads, the most ever.....

crocback, My Precious, please hold *VERY still so that I can *carve the following words into your forehead in *reverse order so that you *yourself can go read them in the freakin' *MIRROR ! ;-D

*ANY numbers applicable to U.S. Nuclear Stockpiles *available to civilians WITHOUT the CLEARANCE LEVEL *and the "*Proven NEED TO KNOW" (like, say, POTUS) are simply (slowly now) b u l l s h i t*.

I don't care *where they came from, I don't care *WHO is talking. If those numbers were *REAL, *YOU would be bunking in Leavenworth Federal Penitentiary simply for *Printing them ! ;-D

Even when repeated as if Echoing off of the walls of the Grand Canyon by an uncleared *CIVILIAN, with *no LEGAL "Need To Know" those *same numbers will *STILL *BE *b u l l s h i t !

Freakin' get *OVER IT, and get the hell *ON WITH IT,
Mister Lie, Repeat, Rinse, Repeat. ;-D
_
 
 
+8 # Nominae 2016-05-29 01:42
Quoting rocback:
.. we have less than ever before the 50's.

So, back to Chuckle-numbers and Hillary Horseshit I see.

Do you know how many Nukes we had in 1945 ? Or, as you put it, "before the 50s"? We had *TWO weapons, genius. The one dropped on Hiroshima and the one dropped on Nagasaki. If Japan had *NOT SURRENDERED, we would have been caught "S.O.W." (Shit Outta Weapons).

Pretty embarrassing for the Country that threatened to "continuously bomb" Japan with nukes until the day it *DID Surrender, huh, crocback ? ;-D

[Get a bright kid to look up "Manhattan Project" for you, Slick.]

Yeah, our bluff actually worked on that one.

Your numbers regarding stockpiles are *ALL full-force BULLSHIT, My Precious. How do I *know that ?

Because, even at *THIS late date, *ALL of those numbers *REMAIN HIGHLY CLASSIFIED ! U.S. Nuclear Capability in *ANY age and time is *NOT something that goes "de-Class" to the general public.

You know *less about Classified Materiel Control than you do about *Nukes, Troll-meister, and your knowlege of Nukes is down in the *seriously negative numbers, just like your employer Hillary's favorability ratings. ;-D

All of which is *why, along *with your egregious demonstration of Trolling lies, Bullshit, fuzzy math, and funny numbers to *date, we *KNOW that you are pulling the numbers ABOVE *straight out of your "Correct The Record" rectum ! ;-D

Thanks for "pulling out all of the stops" on *this one, Slick ! ;-D
_
 
 
+5 # Nominae 2016-05-29 06:47
Well, who knew ? That it was *possible to embarrass crocback into *revising the *knee-slappingl y *outrageous nuke numbers in his comment beginning "Pilger erroneously states ..."!

crocback's Chuckle-numbers are *still gut-bustingly *inaccurate, but
he did make an effort to revise them such that they would not APPEAR *AS glaringly ridiculous as his "first draft" comment had them as being. ;-D

To be *fair, accurate numbers are *not obtainable, bcuz *accurate numbers remain highly classified *WELL beyond: "Internet Troll
Need To Know" basis ! ;-D
_
 
 
-5 # rocback 2016-05-29 13:37
These are easily checked hard numbers. You don't have to take my word or his. It in the record. We have fewer warheads as of 2014, the last time I could find that we did under Bush. It went from over 5000 in Bush's last year to 4766 in 2014.

You are making yourself look foolish. You should check the record.
 
 
+5 # Nominae 2016-05-29 07:53
Quoting rocback:
Actually, there are less nuclear warheads than the 50's. Less than under Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon,Ford,Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton and Bush.

We topped out under Johnson with over 30,000 warheads.

Under Bush it went down to just over 5,000. As of 2014 we were down to 4766.

RIGHT ! Well that THREE TRILLION DOLLAR shot in the arm for new Nukes from Obama should take care of THAT oversight, huh?

The TRUTH, when it comes to U.S. Nuclear Stockpiles, is that *Any number available from an *UNCLASSIFIED Source is just plain horseshit.

And crocback has *neither the "CLEARANCE" *nor the "Proven Need To Know" that would both be *required BY *LAW to access *ACCURATE data on this subject.

crockback is simply pimping the proposal that "YEAH ! We NEED *MORE Nukes !" ;-D

Besides, look at his numbers. crocback would have us believe that the U.S. NOW has fewer Nukes than freakin' *Israel ! ;-D

Tough sell, there, My Precious, *Very Tough sell ! ;-D

Time to come down off of that bad *Acid ! ;-D
_
 
 
-6 # rocback 2016-05-29 13:39
so I guess you must have looked it up and found I was right so now you need to claim "yes, but.."

This is too easy. :-)
 
 
-6 # rocback 2016-05-29 13:53
Figure H: U.S. Nuclear Weapons Stockpile, 1962-2013
Since the late-1960s, the United States and Russia have signed a series of nuclear arms treaties that have
led to steep cuts in their nuclear warhead stockpiles.
35,000
30,000
25,000 Cuban Missile
Crisis
20,000 15,000 10,000
5,000 0
NPT
July 1968
SALT I
May 1972
SALT II
June 1979
INF START I
Dec. July 1991 1987
START II
Jan. 1993
SORT
May 2002
NEW START April 2010
Dissolution of Warsaw Pact
USSR Disbands
1962- 1966- 1970- 1974- 1978- 1982- 1986- 1990- 1994- 1998- 2002- 2006- 2010- 1965 1969 1973 1977 1981 1985 1989 1993 1997 2001 2005 2009 2013
Source: U.S. Department of Defense, Arms Control Association
 
 
-6 # rocback 2016-05-29 13:54
Apparently the U. S. Dept of Defense, Arms Control Assn didn't get Nominees memo. :-)
 
 
+5 # A_Har 2016-05-29 16:27
Rockback advocates the end of the world and human extinction....a s if having nukes will "SAVE" us when blowing off even a fraction of the stockpile is suicide.

Great....just Great!
 
 
+4 # Nominae 2016-05-29 23:47
Quoting rocback:
Apparently the U. S. Dept of Defense, Arms Control Assn didn't get Nominees memo. :-)

You poor, naive and gullible child, crocback, do you *really BELIEVE what the freakin' GOVERNMENT *tells you ABOUT the U.S. Nuclear Stockpile ? ;-D ;-D ;-D

I suppose you *ALSO BELIEVE whatever the hell the *NSA tells you when James Clapper holds up his right hand and full-out *LIES TO CONGRESS ! ;-D

One last time, my idealistic little Pollyanna - as a person formerly *IN "the business", as one who *did have the required Clearance AND the Legally PROVEN "Need to Know", I am telling you *straight *OUT that *ANY numbers that you *CAN FIND, are *JUST as *reliable AS James Clapper's testimony before Congress.

Now go get into yer jammies, My Precious, it is time for
night-night. ;-D
_
 
 
+4 # A_Har 2016-05-29 16:29
Quoting rocback:
so I guess you must have looked it up and found I was right so now you need to claim "yes, but.."

This is too easy. :-)
You are "right" Yes--FAR RIGHT in the political sense. YOU LIKE WAR. War is a "solution."
 
 
+4 # Nominae 2016-05-29 23:23
Quoting rocback:
so I guess you must have looked it up ...

As usual, crocback, you are talking thru your hat. I haven't looked up *any of your Chuckle-numbers . Those Chuckle-numbers are as shaky as Aspen leaves in a hurricane ! ;-D

The difference in what *happens in the Nuclear Control Program and what civilians *hear about that same program, is like night and day.

I didn't *have to "look that up", Slick, I was *THERE !

If these facts *scare you (and they probably *should) then go back to the faux comfort of your chuckle-numbers . Just stop trying to shove those delusional digits down the throats of people who are *NOT afraid of raw reality, thank you very much ! ;-D
_
 
 
-1 # rocback 2016-05-31 13:04
so I guess that is your response to the U S Dept of Defense Arms Control Assn? No countervailing source, just name calling.
 
 
+5 # librarian1984 2016-05-29 07:52
@ Anonymot

Oh amen a thousand times.

My mother used to tell me not to confuse the Pentagon/Joint Chiefs with the working military, nor the officers with the soldiers.
 
 
+14 # jwarndt 2016-05-28 22:21
With 20% of the population on psychiatric drugs, (and a much higher percent among "progressives" and college kids,) no wonder it seems nobody cares about preventing The Worst Thing That Ever Happened. The collective blunting effect of all those brain poisons has silenced the Left like no fascist coup ever could.
And there are mountains of evidence that selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor antidepressants like prozac cause violence. Lilly Pharmaceuticals ' own studies found that 23% of young men and teenagers on prozac exhibit hostility or aggression. It's only a matter of time before someone with access to nuclear weapons goes berserk on psychiatric drugs and sets into motion something that no power on Earth can stop.
Go ahead, thumb me down. I don't care. Somebody had to say it.
 
 
+11 # elkingo 2016-05-29 00:04
Dear George Orwell;

"The breathtaking record of perfidy is so mutated in the public mind, wrote the late Harold Pinter, that it “never happened. … Nothing ever happened. Even while it was happening it wasn’t happening. It didn’t matter. It was of no interest. It didn’t matter.” Wuddaya think of that?

But the principal world "leaders" Pootie, Obomber and uh, "Chan Kai Shek - the biggies but not the only ones with nukes are posturing again like at the inception of WWI.
Nuclear saber rattling. When will they ever learn?

The article is correct. Imagine, Hillary is more dangerous to global survival than narcissist asshole Trumpkin.

The whole of world culture needs radical, revolutionary revision. Nobody can fix it now with the current world capitalist stranglehold matrix. Not even Bernie.
 
 
+9 # Radscal 2016-05-29 16:39
I agree that no ONE can "fix it," including Bernie.

You know who agrees? Why, Bernie.

Bernie is far from "perfect" but he and his policies are definitely HUGE steps in the right direction. If our votes are tallied accurately, it might still be possible to have peaceful, but revolutionary change for the better.
 
 
+1 # John S. Browne 2016-05-30 22:10
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Keep dreaming... NOT! You think "al CIAduh(!)" and the global-governme nt-controllers would let "Bernished-Fool s-Gold-Sanders" or anyone else truly do what's right and stop the former from continuing to take over and subjugate the entire world? Remember JFK, et al. It wouldn't be allowed to happen, AT ALL. And besides, well before they even tried to make changes for the true good of a sovereign U.S., West and the world, he and/or they would be taken down into the "Situation Room" deep under the White House and read the riot act that they better bow down to those who really run things, and only be the good little puppet that is all they are allowed to be, or they're dead, period, end of story.

Or, like Reagan, they would be taken to an "al CIAduh(!)" hospital to be "Manchurianized " (look at how completely different, and totally subservient to the military-indust rial complex, Reagan was after he came out of the hospital following his having been shot), and they would come out the other end, like Reagan, a completely-cowe d servant of the "al CIAduh(!)" and globalist status quo, business as usual, and timetable for destroying the U.S. and all other Western and other national sovereignty and bringing about global subjugation, hegemony and enslavement, just as planned and not off-schedule by one iota.

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+2 # John S. Browne 2016-05-30 22:11
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The rabbit hole goes very, very deep, much deeper than you realize; and, if anyone seriously tries to curtail it, "off with their heads" one way or the other. The making of Orwell's '1984' into "real-life" will not be stopped by any wanna-be U.S. and/or world leader. They all answer to the global(ist) corporate-fasci sts, with absolutely no true- independence or exception(s) whatsoever.

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-4 # indian weaver 2016-05-29 06:56
Great article in details but same ole same old really. The sooner a nuclear holocaust gets started and over, the better off will be Mother Earth. Hopefully most humans will die. Hopefully most animals will survive. Then, Mother Earth has a chance. Until then, and unless we see a worldwide nuclear holocaust, the Great Mother is doomed along with the rest of all life. With nuclear meltdown worldwide, at least the planet has a chance, and animal / plant life will survive enough to replenish our planet with beauty again. All She needs is some protozoa and bacteria. She'll be set back maybe a million years, better than nothing. Yes, much / most of her will be poisoned to death in her water, air and ground, some of her will remain poisoned for millennia, if not "forever". But enclaves of life will remain. Those areas, even if miniscule, are where the planet's rebirth will begin. Hope for nuclear holocaust asap. It's life's only hope on this planet. Don't think of yourself. Don't be so selfish and self-centered. Pray for your Great Mother. She must survive, as well as at least a little bit of life. Nuclear worldwide meltdown will give Her a chance. Pray for Obama / Clinton / Trump to start attacking Russia and China with nuclear missiles today. Trump is our best hope for our beautiful Great Mother's survival in the long / short run. But, in any case, it's coming, sooner than ACD knocks her out of the running for most incredible planet in the cosmos, I hope.
 
 
+16 # librarian1984 2016-05-29 08:06
@ Indian weaver

Oh dear. I hear you and I have been through this phase of my thinking. I guess it was when I had children I became less willing to see the planet destroyed before we had the chance to export our rapacity past the bounds of our own atmosphere.

NOW I would rather stop the SOBs, educate the masses and change the leadership. It is a monumental task but it's not impossible, and I so want a better world for my future grandchildren.

I refuse to give up and lay down. These greedy power hungry monsters don't desrve to 'win'.
 
 
-1 # jeffsyrop 2016-06-02 12:04
Quoting librarian1984:
@ Indian weaver

NOW I would rather stop the SOBs, educate the masses and change the leadership. It is a monumental task but it's not impossible, and I so want a better world for my future grandchildren.

I refuse to give up and lay down. These greedy power hungry monsters don't desrve to 'win'.


A simple thought experiment PROVES we we could make Earth a pretty good place in about a month. It was spelled out in a 1950's paperback by Arthur Clarke, "Childhood's End".

Hella strict aliens come RIGHT as the missiles are being readied for launch between the Soviet Union and USA and FORCE humans to behave. ALL armies are INSTANTLY disbanded, all military ships instantly repurposed.

With a gun to our heads, we humans could do it! And we DO have a gun to our heads. It might take India and Pakistan nuking each other out of existence for us to realize this.
 
 
+5 # kalpal 2016-05-29 11:39
Humanity need not use nuclear warheads to commit suicide. Simple stupidity will do the job.
 
 
+4 # A_Har 2016-05-30 12:07
It really really is a sad state that humanity is in as it looks like society is unmoored and is getting crazier and crazier.

I find myself in mourning from time to time. One friend of mine is a therapist, and I told him about the awful things I am witnessing. He said to me, "Well, how does that help you?" As if it is bad to acknowledge it.

I had no answer at first, but I do now. *It is legitimate to grieve these disasters.* Methinks that it amounts to situational awareness for OUR TIMES. I do not fault you for your sense of total discouragement. It is all so tragic, really!

Anyone who is paying attention would feel likewise.
 
 
+1 # jeffsyrop 2016-06-02 22:43
Quoting A_Har:

I find myself in mourning from time to time. One friend of mine is a therapist, and I told him about the awful things I am witnessing. He said to me, "Well, how does that help you?" As if it is bad to acknowledge it.

I had no answer at first, but I do now. *It is legitimate to grieve these disasters.* Methinks that it amounts to situational awareness for OUR TIMES. .... It is all so tragic, really!

Anyone who is paying attention would feel likewise.

Wow, I cried all day after I read this. It's true. The people who have some inkling into what is actually going on are really in a state of MOURNING. They HAVE to be if they're logical. When you go to the store, the nice young woman ringing up your groceries is probably among the 80 percent of our fellow Amerikans who supported Bush in 2003 when he dropped missiles and bombs into crowded Baghdad. We're basically rubbing shoulders with murderers. It's hideous and incredibly depressing.
 
 
+1 # PaulK 2016-05-29 07:45
We're going to set up our own corruption-resi stant planetary government. It may not have that much political power at first, but that will grow.

As a rule, if the people in a certain country are unable to speak for themselves, we are morally obligated to honestly poll the free speakers that we can identify to find authentic representatives for that group.
 
 
+11 # RMDC 2016-05-29 07:54
Pilger is so right. The ruling elite of the US have designed a sort of disneyland for all Americans to live in. Nothing unpleasant is allowed in theme park USA, except for the stereotyped villains that pop out of rock caverns to scare the kiddies. There are always plenty of these -- Putin, a nameless chinese, a Arab with a beard.

The reality of the horror created around the world by the US military and plunderers is just not mentioned in the US. Official histories leave out the suffering of the Vietnamese at the hands of the US.

US soldiers DID NOT fight to keep us free in Vietnam. They fought to enslave all americans.

To quote the Bible which is always quoted in america --

"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free"

John 8:32

When will Americans know the Truth? Probably never, so they will never be free.
 
 
+5 # A_Har 2016-05-29 16:36
Quoting RMDC:
Pilger is so right. The ruling elite of the US have designed a sort of disneyland for all Americans to live in. Nothing unpleasant is allowed in theme park USA, except for the stereotyped villains that pop out of rock caverns to scare the kiddies. There are always plenty of these -- Putin, a nameless chinese, a Arab with a beard.

Yep....RMDC you've got it.

Chris Hedges wrote about this a year ago:

Our Mania for Hope Is a Curse
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/our_mania_for_hope_is_a_curse_20150524


Posted on May 24, 2015

By Chris Hedges

"The naive belief that history is linear, that moral progress accompanies technical progress, is a form of collective self-delusion. It cripples our capacity for radical action and lulls us into a false sense of security. Those who cling to the myth of human progress, who believe that the world inevitably moves toward a higher material and moral state, are held captive by power. Only those who accept the very real possibility of dystopia, of the rise of a ruthless corporate totalitarianism , buttressed by the most terrifying security and surveillance apparatus in human history, are likely to carry out the self-sacrifice necessary for revolt."

It is rather interesting that we never see his articles on RSN.
 
 
+4 # Nominae 2016-05-30 01:45
Quoting A_Har:
It is rather interesting that we never see his articles on RSN.

GREAT post, A_Har, simply Primo ! Thoughtful, insightful and
*important to all readers.

In re: Hedges, however - Chris has been frequently featured here on RSN
as they used to print his article *leads that would then link away to TruthDig.

I will admit, tho, that I haven't seen one here recently.

In fact, it was via RSN that I first became *aware of Chris Hedges !

BTW, Good having you on the comment Q !

Cheers !
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+3 # A_Har 2016-05-30 11:47
Quoting Nominae:

In re: Hedges, however - Chris has been frequently featured here on RSN
as they used to print his article *leads that would then link away to TruthDig.

I will admit, tho, that I haven't seen one here recently.

In fact, it was via RSN that I first became *aware of Chris Hedges !

Yes, I remember those articles, but it seems like it has been a very long time since anything of his has been on this site, and I wonder why.

Quote:
BTW, Good having you on the comment Q !

Cheers !_
Well, thanks.
 
 
-1 # jeffsyrop 2016-06-02 12:11
Quoting A_Har:

It is rather interesting that we never see his articles on RSN.

Yeah, why is that??
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-1 # John S. Browne 2016-05-30 22:36
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And people think I'm cynical and without hope, "RMDC". The truth IS knowable, or God's Word(s) wouldn't say it is; and not only say it, but PROMISE it. All we have to do is believe Him and that He WILL keep his promise(s). I've been set free by the truth and am no longer part of the "matrix" at all, so it is not only possible, it is probable. My being completely out of the "matrix" and set free is why so many people here hate me. They don't want to hear the whole, real truth and believe it, and they sense that I no longer fit in with them, with they who are still not set free and are still part of and controlled by the "matrix", so they are led by the evil(s) that control(s) them, to try and get me to fit in to the "matrix" again, or to want to destroy and/or harm me one way or another for not rejoining the "matrix".

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We may never, on this earth, be set free as a nationwide and/or worldwide group of people; but if we have strong enough belief in God and really want to be, we WILL be set free INDIVIDUALLY, and will be made into Truly Free and Independent True Individuals, which NO ONE, even if they murder us for it, and for not bowing down to Evil's enslavement, can take away from us. So, be set free individually, then seek for others to be set free individually too, and then work for national and global True-Freedom. We have the duty(ies) to try, even if it doesn't succeed. But wake yourself up completely first, and then seek to wake up the world, or at least as many people as you can.

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+1 # Robbee 2016-05-30 13:47
the eerie silence that concerns me is the author's failure to review rump's verbal attacks on chinain the context of dismissing, as he calls it, The Trump Hysteria

rump desperately itches for a tariff, currency and sabre-rattling war with china - to show them who's boss - and constant bickering among the world's two economic superrivals tend to end badly - as in WWI and WWII
 
 
+1 # John S. Browne 2016-05-30 19:21
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Thank you John Pilger for some of the true perspective that we rarely ever "hear" (or read), unless it is on and/or in alternative and/or progressive media. So many of the commenters on RSN and other "liberal" sites, and in this and other RSN threads, show how effective the level of brainwash- ing of the American populace has been in getting them to believe in and defend the empire-building militarism of the U.S. government, its military and its Western allies, which they of course don't see as empire-building or wrong, and/or don't know the level of or truth about. Thus, you must sound absolutely insane to most "liberals", or at least "overboard" in your viewpoints, and they must think you as insane and/or overboard. (I'm nothing but a constitutionali st, and neither "liberal" or "conservative" in any way, shape, form or fashion whatsoever.)

What an extensive mass-murdering warmonger the U.S. government, its military and its allies have been... on steroids, with well over ten million innocent-civili an deaths (aka, murders) including and since World War 2! And as you so correctly point out, truth-be-known they want much more of it, going on perpetually, including nuclear war (that's how increasingly insane they are!), seeing as its made some millionaires, billionaires; and making many more, if not billionaires, otherwise obscenely rich (many into first-time millionaires, including many in Congress, etc.).

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+1 # John S. Browne 2016-05-30 19:22
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Thank you for pointing out the True History of U.S. warmaking and its outcomes, particularly in the extent of innocent peoples' deaths/murders, and for making clear that the madness is only escalating and the warmaking increasing.

As I've said before, "welcome" to Orwell's '1984' made reality, being that the endless war is being used to "totaliterroriz e" and "totalitarianiz e" the U.S., the West and the entire world, eliminating all True Human and Civil Rights, and all True Liberty and Freedom, locking us all down and enslaving us under global corporate-fasci st government, very much like the dystopian and draconian totalitarian government in Orwell's '1984'.

Yep, most "liberals" will vote for "the (so-called) lesser of two evils" yet again, by voting for insane and mass-murderous "'Hitlery' Clinton", repeating the same insanity over and over and over again ridiculously expecting a different outcome, which is the very definition of their own insanity made absolutely and abundantly clear.

The U.S., the West and the world are fracked, and it's all over but the nuclear holocaust "singing" (unless, and only if, God Himself literally prevents it from happening, because that is our only True Hope).

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0 # rocback 2016-05-31 13:07
John Browne, 95% of all the nuclear warheads in teh world are owned by the U S and Russia. They actually have a few more than us. I would love to have all nukes eliminated. Would you think it wise for us toe do so unilaterally?
 
 
-1 # jeffsyrop 2016-06-02 13:10
Mr. Pilger,

I am humbled by this fine essay. I am envious of your knowledge and your writing skill. Like Chris Hedges, you lay out reality for us in very clear and frightening terms.

We Americans are in such incredibly dire straits and yet the poor are likely to be obese rather than thin. Who doesn't have a smart phone and a TV? We care about sports on TV, Disneyland, the best pizza place.

We are victims of our fellow Americans more than we are victims of the ruling elites. 80 percent of us supported Bush in 2003 when he dropped bombs and missiles into crowded Baghdad for absolutely no reason.

As Paul Simon sang, "A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." A Hillary or a Trump would be laughed off the stage almost immediately by an awake public. But how do we wake people up? LSD in the water system? If we wait until the comfort level for Americans is significantly diminished, the population waking up will be out of the question. People will hate and react; they will support bombing whoever they are taught to hate by the almost seamless mass media.

I watched a comfortable population begin to change in peaceful and constructive ways almost overnight, starting approximately when the Beatles first landed in New York in 1963. I think your task and mine, as writers, should be to figure out how to light a fire in the minds of people who have allowed their political and metaphysical awareness to go dark. And we'd better figure this out quickly!
 

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