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Wasserman writes: "The Democratic party is teetering on the brink. The green/peace/social justice community needs a Plan C. The Republicans have one. The Democrats don't. The impacts could be catastrophic."

Paul Ryan. (photo: Alex Wong/Getty Images)
Paul Ryan. (photo: Alex Wong/Getty Images)


Are You Ready for President Paul Ryan? Why We Desperately Need a Plan C

By Harvey Wasserman, Reader Supported News

10 April 16

 

he Democratic party is teetering on the brink. The green/peace/social justice community needs a Plan C. The Republicans have one. The Democrats don’t. The impacts could be catastrophic.

Consider:

  • Both Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders have serious handicaps for reaching the presidency.

  • By her own admission, Hillary is an ineffective campaigner, with serious negatives among young activists and the general voting population.

  • Long considered an “ace in the hole” for her campaign, Bill’s presence on the stump has been problematic at best.

  • There are continual rumors of a pending Clinton indictment. About what remains unclear. But such an event could seriously impede or destroy a Clinton candidacy.

  • Bernie has catalyzed an amazing outpouring of activist energy, mostly young, but with a remarkably broad base that reflects the serious problems our nation faces.

  • But it’s unclear the Sanders campaign has been effectively focussed on organizing this energy into a long-term plus for social change beyond the election. If he doesn’t win the presidency, and this grassroots uprising is allowed to dissipate after November, the Sanders campaign must ultimately be judged a failure.

  • Bernie also has electoral negatives, most importantly his age. At 74, his stamina has been astounding. But he’s still five years older than Ronald Reagan was when Reagan became our oldest president. Even Trump, at 69, could make that an issue.

  • After a long stretch of welcome civility, the contest between Clinton and Sanders is on the brink of degenerating into deep negativity, which could seriously damage either candidate’s ability to win the White House in the fall.

  • Should both candidates be overwhelmed by their negatives, the Democrats have nobody waiting in the wings to pick up the torch.

On the other side:

  • The GOP clown car has trickled down to three contested candidates – Trump, Ted Cruz and John Kasich – all with serious negatives for a presidential campaign.

  • But it now appears likely that Trump will fall short of an outright majority at the Cleveland Convention, making the nomination a jump ball.

  • In contrast to the Democrats, the GOP DOES have a backup – Paul Ryan. The Koch Brothers, who may be the only GOP voters who really count, are now saying Ryan will be the nominee.

  • Though an apparent long shot, Ryan did emerge from a crazed Congressional food fight to become Speaker of the House. As such, he’s right behind Joe Biden in the line of White House succession. He says he doesn’t want the presidency, but he also said he didn’t want the Speaker’s job.

  • Despite his outward appearance of civility, Ryan is a vicious corporate reactionary, an Ayn Rand fanatic with a brutal far-right agenda that includes (though he denies it) destroying Social Security, Medicare, labor unions, environmental protections and much more. A Ryan presidency would be a global catastrophe on more fronts that can be listed here.

  • Ryan has plenty of negatives as a candidate. And the Kochs earlier pushed Scott Walker, who failed miserably. But at 46, Ryan is more than two decades younger than Hillary. He has a family, speaks reasonably well and comes off as deceptively sane. With unlimited dark billions at his disposal, a well-calibrated running mate could make Paul Ryan hard to beat.

  • The idea that a GOP denial of the Trump or Cruz candidacies will shatter the party’s ability to win the fall election has meaning only if the Democrats are unified behind a viable candidate, or if the Kochs and their cohorts suddenly lose the billions they could spend to patch up the problem. The same is true if Trump or Cruz or Kasich actually do emerge as the nominee.

  • With ploys like Voter ID and other modernized Jim Crow disenfranchisement techniques, the GOP has effectively stripped the Democratic base of – literally – millions of likely voters. Written with Bob Fitrakis, our upcoming STRIP & FLIP SELECTION OF 2016 provides the detail, as does the ongoing research of Greg Palast, Bev Harris, Brad Friedman, Mimi Kennedy, Mark Crispin Miller, Lori Grace, Jon Simon, Richard Charnin and others. (There’s an hour-long radio discussion of this with Mimi, Bob Koehler and John Brakey at prn.fm’s Solartopia Show.)

  • In Wisconsin, significantly more votes were counted in the GOP primary than for Bernie and Hillary. The New York Times and others have estimated the number of Wisconsin citizens stripped of their right to vote at 300,000, comprising a margin easily large enough to deny the Democrats a victory in the fall.

  • Bob Fitrakis, Greg Palast and others have calculated the number of voters already stripped in Ohio in the hundreds of thousands, more than enough to cover this fall’s likely margin of victory in this crucial swing state.

  • Tens of thousands of likely Democratic voters were denied their ballot due to long lines in Arizona, which were set up with the stripping of precincts in urban areas and the denial of sufficient voting machines (and back-up ballots). As we did in Florida 2000, Ohio 2004 and elsewhere ever since, we can expect more of the same primarily in black, Hispanic and college town precincts throughout the country this coming fall.

  • Bernie spoke angrily about this after the Arizona primary, and Hillary has also mentioned these Jim Crow assaults – but nothing concrete has been done to blunt the massive disenfranchisement that is now defining the fall election.

  • Well over half the nation’s votes this fall will be cast on electronic voting machines that date back a decade and can be easily flipped. In key swing states like Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Michigan, Iowa and Arizona among others, GOP governors could have a free hand to shape the vote count with a few keystrokes in the deep night after the votes are cast. There is no accountability.

  • Those who consider this “conspiracy theory” must face one simple question: “How will the electronic vote count in the fall 2016 election be verified.” Right now there is only one answer: “It can’t be.”

  • Since the thefts of the 2000 and 2004 elections, the Democrats have been deafeningly silent about the specter of another presidential election being stolen. Numerous US Senate and House seats, governors’ mansions and statehouses have been lost in the interim. The usual Democrat dodge is that they don’t want to discourage voter turnout. But, as above, that is already being guaranteed by the new GOP Jim Crow laws.

The Democrats’ abject failure to deal with the stripping of the voter rolls and the flipping of the electronic vote count could doom their chances this fall, no matter who their presidential nominee. With that loss will go control of the Congress, governorships, state legislatures and countless other elective offices at all levels.

But in the interim, the Democrats’ hopes for winning the White House now rest on two candidates with serious handicaps that could cost either of them any reasonable chance for victory in the fall, especially amidst the dark tsunami of Koch cash.

The time to start at least considering potential backup alternatives is very much now.

Likewise the need to guarantee that the immense grassroots energies ignited by Bernie Sanders become an organized, tangible force for long-term change.

And – 16 years after the stolen election of 2000 – we at long last must confront the strip and flip “selectoral” realities that have turned our government into an utterly corrupt, globally lethal corporate subsidiary.



Harvey Wasserman’s America at the Brink of Rebirth: The Organic Spiral of US History can be had via www.solartopia.org. The Strip & Flip Selection of 2016: Five Jim Crows & Electronic Election Theft, co-written with Bob Fitrakis, is at www.freepress.org.

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+48 # reiverpacific 2016-04-10 09:39
Jeezeus McSporran almighty!
Ryan(d) is Worse that Drumpf by a long way and on a par with "Crazy Cruz" in pure anti-populist meanness!
My Democratic 'Plan C' alternate would be Allan Grayson or Russ Feingold (except that he's running for a seat in Wisconsin), Al Franken? Elizabeth Warren?
Maybe the Canadians are right in expecting a rush to the northern Border and some have even posited a Drumpf-style wall along't
I dunno if this is a bit o' scare tactics by the author to wake up "undecided" voters, in putting out the unthinkable scenario of this villain, viper with his spotted soul in a suit lurking in the shadows waiting to be sprung by "Gawd's Own Piffle" but my UK/EU passport's coming up for renewal so it's another incentive to get 'er done, much as we love where we live!
BTW, not a word about Bernie Sanders (Except a hint that both Dem' Candidates having "Serious handicaps -Clinton MK 2 for sure but what would Bernie's serious H'caps be, prithee?) in the entire article; has the author written him off already? Is it just possible that he could run with another very prominent progressive like Grayson or Warren?
O' thou of little faith!
 
 
+20 # Jim Rocket 2016-04-10 11:02
Scare tactic or wake-up call? Wasserman raises a bunch of good points.
 
 
-37 # rocback 2016-04-10 11:40
If Bernie Sanders keeps on the nasty talk about Clinton, she will be so wounded by the end of the primary, any Republican could beat her. Stop the insanity!
 
 
-28 # revhen 2016-04-10 12:02
Quoting rocback:
If Bernie Sanders keeps on the nasty talk about Clinton, she will be so wounded by the end of the primary, any Republican could beat her. Stop the insanity!

Amen!
 
 
+61 # Texas Aggie 2016-04-10 12:03
Why is it that Bernie is being blamed for negativity while Hillary's nastiness gets a free ride. Is it because that is expected of her?
 
 
+11 # CL38 2016-04-11 02:01
The MSM and DNC spin that HE'S to blame any time she goes into attack mode...or if she freaks out because he's winning. Guess they think this is the best way to Deflect the conversation away from Hillary's rages and whopping sense of entitlement.

This Presidency belongs to her! "MY TURN"!
 
 
+1 # Billy Bob 2016-04-12 13:00
Yes. It's always been part of her playbook in the past. Why should this time be any different?
 
 
+27 # Anonymot 2016-04-10 12:41
Sorry, but she was wounded in Wellesley and hasn't recovered since. Hillary Clinton has so much bad baggage (revealed or not yet revealed) that her chances of defeating whoever the Republicans put up are close to nil.
 
 
+13 # Street Level 2016-04-10 19:59
She's coming in under sniper fire!
 
 
+2 # Billy Bob 2016-04-12 13:00
Is Hillary Clinton keeps on the nasty talk about Sander, he will be so wounded by the end of the primary, any Republican could beat him. Stop the insanity!
 
 
0 # ljslotnick 2016-04-10 17:04
Sanders should start a dialogue with VP candidates and my first pick would be former Michigan democratic governor Jennifer Granholm. The was defeated by the infamous current governor Rick Snyder. She served 2 terms...she's 57 y.o. UC Berkeley and Harvard Law grad. Yes...she has been supporting Clinton but I don't think that matters. She would make a great President someday.
 
 
+3 # bmiluski 2016-04-11 11:22
Wow...ljslotnic k...why the re thumbs? I wish these people would at least have the guts to explain their reaction.
 
 
+1 # Caliban 2016-04-11 11:37
"Yes...she has been supporting Clinton but I don't think that matters". Sorry, bmiluski, but on RSN, "that matters".
 
 
+29 # danireland46 2016-04-10 09:52
Woeful is the state of Wisconsin. What used to be a land of progressive movements consider the following points from the article:
1,) "Ryan has plenty of negatives as a candidate. And the Kochs earlier pushed Scott Walker, who failed miserably. But at 46, Ryan is more than two decades younger than Hillary. He has a family, speaks reasonably well and comes off as deceptively sane. With unlimited dark billions at his disposal, a well-calibrated running mate could make Paul Ryan hard to beat."

2) "In Wisconsin, significantly more votes were counted in the GOP primary than for Bernie and Hillary. The New York Times and others have estimated the number of Wisconsin citizens stripped of their right to vote at 300,000, comprising a margin easily large enough to deny the Democrats a victory in the fall."
 
 
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+73 # fletch1165 2016-04-10 09:55
Reagan was 74 when he was ELECTED to his 2nd term. Stop with the deception please. And Sander's brain is a Hell of a lot sharper at 74 than that clown Ronald Wilson Reagan at 34.

Plan C: Can we just replace Hillary with Elizabeth Warren now, an actual progressive? Had they done the right thing to begin with and acknowledged Clinton's fallacies as a Democrat we would not be here.

So the writer of this article thinks they only steal elections for Republicans and not for Goldman Sach's Clinton? What does he think we are smoking?
 
 
-62 # rocback 2016-04-10 11:42
There is no way the entire country is going to vote for a 75 year old socialist. Go make a point in a speech or protest but don't cut off your nose to spite your face.
 
 
+60 # Texas Aggie 2016-04-10 12:05
You do realize that Bernie beats all the potential repub candidates by much wider margins than Hillary does, don't you? And the entire country is not about to vote for a Dominionist or a PT Barnum with a big streak of nasty running right through him.
 
 
+29 # Cassandra2012 2016-04-10 16:02
'DEMOCRATIC" Socialist, dear. As in the entire Eurozone, Australia, Canada, UK and other sane, civilized countries.
Oh, and we already have democratic socialist institutions here in the US: starting with firefighters for all regardless of income, public libraries, infrastructure such as bridges and roads, Public Education (which venal Teapugs are TRYING to replace with profiteering charter schools), Medicare, Social Security (if Wall Street thieves do not succeeed in gutting it, and oh yes, the MILITARY ... .
 
 
+4 # newell 2016-04-11 15:30
Just so the rocbacks of the world can know how "good" the Ayn Rand America was: the fire departments used to be private. They did not put out a house on fire, unless they had a "firemark" on the outside of the house to prove you had insurance. They stood by and watched as many a house burned down because they didn't have money for insurance. This is what dog-eat-dog small government delivers.
 
 
+2 # CL38 2016-04-11 01:52
Just watch.
 
 
+42 # revhen 2016-04-10 12:04
And Reagan was already showing symptoms of Alzheimer's disease. Not a problem with Bernie.
 
 
+2 # newell 2016-04-11 15:19
good points, all
 
 
+60 # CarolinMexico 2016-04-10 10:11
I think Bernie is electable if he sticks to the issues. "THE ISSUES" really are nonpartisan in the sense that at their heart, they impact citizens -- whether R or D or I equally.
 
 
+15 # EternalTruth 2016-04-10 10:17
Back-up candidate? Seriously? The Hillary machine wouldn't let it happen if she was the winner, and Bernie's supporters would abandon the Dem party in droves if he were the winner. It's an idea that dies before it can even get half way out of your mouth.
 
 
+22 # Cappucino 2016-04-10 10:38
The Republican nominee will be Ted Cruz. It will not be Paul Ryan. Hear me now and believe me later. (I'm SERIOUSLY trying to find a way to bet money on this... (I think it's handled through sports betting, which is legal in my state.) I'm getting tired of the recent silliness about Paul Ryan-- maybe it's happening out of total denial of just how horrific Cruz would be.

But the point is that Republican voters will not accept Paul Ryan or anyone else suddenly introduced at the convention (as in fact they shouldn't.) If Trump doesn't get enough delegates outright, Ted Cruz is the only one that voters will accept, or they will stay home in droves in November. The entire Republican elite-- the Koch brothers and everyone else-- will look, and already are looking, at Ted Cruz and say, "Well, we don't like him, but voters do, so what does it really matter anyway? We can control him." But they can't, no more than President Paul von Hindenburg could control Hitler. Just wait and see.
 
 
+18 # Jim Rocket 2016-04-10 11:01
As I understand it, a relatively small portion of Republicans are voting in the primaries and those that don't bother to vote will accept whoever the party tells them to accept. I think Paul Ryan, unlike Drumph and Cruz, can be controlled which makes him very attractive to the lizard Lords.
 
 
0 # newell 2016-04-11 15:34
I have a bankroll if you give me 10 to 1 odds.
 
 
-66 # Shades of gray matter 2016-04-10 10:48
Hindenburg was a bit dead for controlling Hitler, but your point is well taken. Bernie's Achilles Heels go far beyond his age. Avowed atheist. Easily painted socialist. All pie, no delivery. Raise taxes. "Hello, you have reached VA-For All. We value your patience, comrade patient. The current wait time to see a government doctor, under orders to balance the budget, is one year. If your child has a cough, call 911 or GET YOUR ASS to the ER!"
 
 
+32 # Texas Aggie 2016-04-10 12:09
Not too long ago your posts just didn't make sense, but they at least had a veneer of sanity. Now you seem to have degenerated into total lunacy. Is that a necessary trait for supporting Hillary?
 
 
+24 # bmiluski 2016-04-10 12:54
WRONG ... Shades. I was a recipient of National Health Care. Not only was there very little wait time,(no longer than you spend waiting in a doctors office) the doctors actually made house calls.
 
 
+19 # reiverpacific 2016-04-10 16:36
Quoting Shades of gray matter:
Hindenburg was a bit dead for controlling Hitler, but your point is well taken. Bernie's Achilles Heels go far beyond his age. Avowed atheist. Easily painted socialist. All pie, no delivery. Raise taxes. "Hello, you have reached VA-For All. We value your patience, comrade patient. The current wait time to see a government doctor, under orders to balance the budget, is one year. If your child has a cough, call 911 or GET YOUR ASS to the ER!"


I've waited way longer to see any private doctor OR dentist in the US than I ever did in the UK, Australia (my late ex-wife), Singapore (ditto), France or Spain -and in the US, have been asked for my insurance card before what was the problem (even in the ER!!!!).
Get out into the world a bit and get y'r gray matter jiggled about.
 
 
+1 # newell 2016-04-11 15:40
Shades, of course is almost always wrong, and sometimes trolls, but is entertaining, creative and smart for a closet conservative. But don't tell him--like Hillary, he think's he's a progressive.
 
 
0 # tswhiskers 2016-04-10 10:59
I hope Cappucino is right that Reps. will not accept Ryan as their presidential candidate. All we need is this Ayn Rand acolyte in the WH. Actually not one of the Rep. candidates would be good for the country, not even Kasich, the most sober of the entire bunch. I think Bernie's chances are slim at best of winning. So it seems to me that we'd all best hope that Hillary will make at least a stab at reading Wall St. the riot act and at taking on the Reps. generally. Would be nice if the Dems could win back the Senate too.
 
 
+17 # Anonymot 2016-04-10 13:03
I understand your wish, but it makes me wonder if you have really grasped Hillary's activities when she was the key figure in America's foreign affairs. As Secretary of State she gave complete and total control to the triumvirate that runs America: the CIA/FBI/DOD and their various acolytes and paymasters. Hillary had zero grasp of world politics (also Obama's case.) She had no perspective or background in our foreign policies. I presume she was named Secretary in a deal with Obama to let her set up their continuity by her becoming President after him. So, like Obama, in matters of foreign policy she became a rubber stamp for the Deep State.

Given that, why would she defy the other arm of Deep State, Wall Street?

Most politicians of our time have no vision or perspective beyond their state or our borders, but they do have one real area of expertise: getting votes. And Hillary has certainly mastered that. Reading Wall St. the riot act? Only enough to get the Demo nomination. That's why she won't reveal her speeches to the likes of Goldman Sachs.
 
 
+15 # Caliban 2016-04-10 10:59
Paul Ryan? This unlikeable twit sure didn't help Mitt Romney much in 2012. I doubt if he'd do any better on his own.

In any case, leaving aside possible ballot tampering (still unproven), the Dems will have trouble aplenty with Trump or Cruz, a pair of dreadful presidential wannabes who have, nevertheless, shown surprising campaign trail appeal.
 
 
+14 # bmiluski 2016-04-10 13:00
Ryan made me want to vomit when he ran with Mitt....and he still manages to do it to me again.
 
 
+2 # Robbee 2016-04-10 11:35
seems to me dems only need a plan c if the repug party, including rump and his plurality, unite behind lyin' kasick, lyin' ryan or lyin' crud!
 
 
+31 # djnova50 2016-04-10 11:36
Bernie Sanders has said that he is in the race to win. He has not gone negative; but, he is more willing to bring up Hillary's past efforts in public office. He acknowledges that they have different ideas on the issues. He writes that it is because of his supporters that his opponent has changed her mind on some issues.

Bernie has a plan; but, will not elaborate until he wins the nomination. This is like not counting your chicks until the hatch.

For an in depth analysis on where Bernie stands on the issues, go check out feelthebern.org .
 
 
-41 # rocback 2016-04-10 11:45
Not going negative? are you kidding? I just saw him on TV saying "Bill Clinton owed the country an apology for defending his wife".

This is right after he called Hillary "unqualified" and his lame excuse was a third grade excuse because "she called me that first" (which was BS because she never called him unqualified).
 
 
-13 # bmiluski 2016-04-10 12:57
Oh rocback....have n't you noticed, you're not allowed to defend Hillary on this site. But thanks just the same.
 
 
-1 # newell 2016-04-11 15:45
If you two would do it intelligently, we wouldn't mind, but neither of you is very informed.
 
 
+7 # Anonymot 2016-04-10 13:12
You would seem to have either a case of tunnel vision or faulty ear hairs, depending on whether you read it out of context or heard it wrong. If my wife called America's blacks "superpredators " I'd give her more than a dressing down!
 
 
+3 # Caliban 2016-04-10 14:07
Actually, HRC called LA gangbangers "superpredators ". No ethnicity was specified.
 
 
0 # Ken Halt 2016-04-10 18:22
Cal: "No ethnicity was specified." So how do you know HRC was specifying LA gangbangers? Logical fallacy...
 
 
+2 # Caliban 2016-04-11 00:35
Not sure what you're getting at, Ken. "LA" is not an ethnic descriptor; it is a big city.

Gangs in Los Angeles may be white, black, Latino, or mixed, right? In the Clinton statement being referenced, she used the term "superpredator" (1) specifically about Los Angeles gangs but (2) did NOT specify an ethnicity for said gang members.

So--no logical fallacy at my end (not this time, anyway), but there's certainly some sort of fallacy at yours.
 
 
+6 # Billsy 2016-04-10 14:09
OK your troll status is now fully acknowledged Rocbac. You've poisoned the well with your intemperate uninformed and ad hominem attacks From now on may you be ignored. You get an orgasm each time someone responds to your taunts. No more.
 
 
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-21 # MidwestTom 2016-04-10 11:55
Uncle Joe Biden would beat everybody.
 
 
-5 # bmiluski 2016-04-10 12:58
Now there's a guy I'd love to have a beer with.
 
 
+6 # Cassandra2012 2016-04-10 16:09
Perhaps you never watched the judiciary committee hearings on Clarence Thomas, and their outright sexist attacks on Anita Hill?
 
 
+4 # JJS 2016-04-10 17:48
# bmiluski 2016-04-10 12:58
Now there's a guy I'd love to have a beer with.

As long as Joe's Buyin'.
 
 
0 # bmiluski 2016-04-11 11:26
Oh, absolutely.
 
 
+1 # PABLO DIABLO 2016-04-10 12:04
HUMP the TRUMP
Vote for THE DONALD
and get the USA over with now.
 
 
0 # bmiluski 2016-04-10 12:59
Dear sweet Jesus brother comrade .....sigh.
 
 
-23 # revhen 2016-04-10 12:06
My dream team: Hillery for prez, Bern for veep. He'd be the conscience for Hil.
 
 
+11 # Anonymot 2016-04-10 13:13
Are you suggesting that the Hillbilly has no conscience? Hmmmm... You may be righter than you think.
 
 
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+3 # lfeuille 2016-04-10 19:42
Get real. She'd ignore him. HE is too smart to fall for that. He and we would be better off with him in the senate, but I still think he will win.
 
 
0 # jcdav 2016-04-11 09:32
I rather doubt she could either grow a conscience or listen to one added on any more than she has traditionally listened to advisers.
 
 
+19 # Blackjack 2016-04-10 12:35
Bernie's negatives seem a bit contrived to me. Nothing said about him is anything new, yet he continues to win. What does Wasserman make of this? And, really, do you want to write a piece like this, then offer no alternatives yourself? Cowardly crap as far as I'm concerned!
 
 
+3 # lfeuille 2016-04-10 19:44
I agree. The article seemed a bit over the top to me.
 
 
+8 # pupdude 2016-04-10 12:38
This post seems nonsensical, characterized by gross exaggeration. Try not to be so afraid.
 
 
-16 # Shades of gray matter 2016-04-10 13:20
We have several models of actual public healthcare systems in AMERICA. This AIN'T Finland. Medicare does amazingly well, on its currently limited mission, but is in fact going broke. Medicaid covers broadly, with generally positive but MIXED results. The Support Our Troops, Support Our Veterans SOCIALIZED medicine system is an unmitigated catastrophe. YUUGE failure, deadly waits, etc., etc., etc. We need to be on high alert, cautious, modest, and not blow up Employer Provided Insurance + Obamacare after a 45 year STRUGGLE.
 
 
+4 # barryg 2016-04-10 20:15
Sorry but I am in the VA system and it is wonderful. Sure there are a few problems, like the for profit system has none? VA care in most places is great. There are a few locations with problems. And a definite attack on it, cause this country does not like vets.
 
 
0 # jcdav 2016-04-11 09:36
I concur I'm in the VA system and it serves me well, providing preventative medicine and fixing my old bod...Our national helthcare costs could be cut by 10% (the difference between insurance co. overhead 17% & VA overhead 10%) by adopting a similar plan.
 
 
-20 # Shades of gray matter 2016-04-10 13:28
Why would secular (Religious people despise "secular") Jew, avowed atheist, BS leave NY primary race to go to an utterly insignificant, until now, academic conference in Rome? Because he knows his self avowed atheism is a direct affront to Holy Believers. And he knows that could sink him in CA, etc., as it did in FL, SEC primaries. You GO, Bernie. Buy you cannot avoided being thoroughly painted a Godless Socialist, identities you yourself chose. You never considered yourself a Democrat; now pay the piper. I hope you win the Faithful over, but that will be a miracle, and you don't believe in those.
 
 
+9 # reiverpacific 2016-04-10 16:39
Quoting Shades of gray matter:
Why would secular (Religious people despise "secular") Jew, avowed atheist, BS leave NY primary race to go to an utterly insignificant, until now, academic conference in Rome? Because he knows his self avowed atheism is a direct affront to Holy Believers. And he knows that could sink him in CA, etc., as it did in FL, SEC primaries. You GO, Bernie. Buy you cannot avoided being thoroughly painted a Godless Socialist, identities you yourself chose. You never considered yourself a Democrat; now pay the piper. I hope you win the Faithful over, but that will be a miracle, and you don't believe in those.


He's already got his "faithful" -not all atheists or agnostics, especially among the younger voters, amongst whom I've never seen or felt so much excitement in my lengthy residence in and out of the country.
 
 
0 # jcdav 2016-04-11 09:37
If the Pope invited YOU, wouldn't you go see the man?
 
 
-1 # bmiluski 2016-04-11 11:29
The Pope did not invite him. The conference did. Bernie is not meeting with the Pope.
 
 
-17 # Shades of gray matter 2016-04-10 13:32
In sheer desperation, Bernie's campaign manager said, "Bernie is WORKING WITH the POPE on moral economics." I bet that's news to Fran given Bernie's self avowed atheism, gay marriage & abortion stands. I'm NOT criticizing Bernie, just pointing out an obstacle, a YUUGE obstacle.
 
 
+15 # tedrey 2016-04-10 14:21
Shades, no one here believes you when you say you support Bernie. For one thing, the only commenter who is making a huge racket about atheism and socialism is you.
 
 
+5 # reiverpacific 2016-04-10 16:40
Quoting Shades of gray matter:
In sheer desperation, Bernie's campaign manager said, "Bernie is WORKING WITH the POPE on moral economics." I bet that's news to Fran given Bernie's self avowed atheism, gay marriage & abortion stands. I'm NOT criticizing Bernie, just pointing out an obstacle, a YUUGE obstacle.


it's YOU who are gettin' desperate bringing THAT up.
 
 
+4 # lfeuille 2016-04-10 19:48
Have you actually looked at the polls on gay marriage and abortion. The majority favors both. The republicans try to stir up hatred, but it just not working outside a rapidly shrinking core.
 
 
-1 # bmiluski 2016-04-11 11:31
Bernie is NOT working with the Pope nor did the Pope invite him. He is not meeting with the Pope, he's just attending a conference.
 
 
+1 # newell 2016-04-11 18:29
Pope Francis is not bothered by atheism--but you seem to be. Francis seems more interested in people that care about others. All the politicians I know are more concerned with their bank accounts and legacy--except Bernie. Like the Pope, he seems concerned with others. And I'm guessing since this Pope actually likes and tries to follow the teachings of Jesus--he probably knows that the net worth of the Clintons is 150 million, while the Sanders' is 400k.
 
 
+13 # dusty 2016-04-10 16:31
I'm really tired about hearing that the Bern is 74. I am 76 and could easily live to be 100+ and so could Sanders. This crap about being young is just crap. The younger Democrat has suffered from frozen ability to think strategically for peace for years and yet no one talks about her age. Let's talk about issues, not ages.
 
 
+8 # JJS 2016-04-10 16:36
Plan C for Dems should focus on how to assure Dem votes are counted in the general election?

Will it take early or absentee voting to make lines shorter for those who can't use alternatives?
How can this be encouraged and facilitated?
"Get out the Ballot!" movements in every state that has enacted voting restrictions in any form. Mostly they are Republican controlled states (AZ, WI, FL, OH, on and on) Primary election problems can be an indicator of where to focus community organizing.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/absentee-and-early-voting.aspx
 
 
+8 # ljslotnick 2016-04-10 17:06
Sanders is perfectly electable. Labels such as "socialist" won't stick ... his message of addressing ...above all...income inequality by making college more accessible and rolling back the trade deals that are sending middle class jobs overseas are what resonate. A less interventionist foreign policy that keeps more money in our own treasury for investment in US infrastucture, and a green-energy focused economy will also resonate. His more likable to women than Trump or Cruz by a wide margin, too.
 
 
+5 # Doc Mary 2016-04-10 17:40
SO WHERE IS THE MOVEMENT TO SHIFT TO PAPER BALLOTS IN NOVEMBER? WHERE IS THE MOVEMENT TO REGISTER VOTERS? WHERE IS THEIR WEBSITE? We know all this. But I can't start a movement, and I don't see one to join. As I've said before, where is the League of Women Voters now that we need them?
 
 
+4 # JJS 2016-04-10 18:18
Call your local chapter of LoWV and ask them! You can have an impact.

Do you have access to internet and a printer?
To register to vote in MD (your state may differ) go to http://www.elections.state.md.us/voter_registration/application.html
Download/print a few instructions and links to online registration and a few applications that can be mailed in.
Get/print absentee voting info and forms http://www.elections.state.md.us/voting/absentee.html
Print early voting location lists. Time and place.
http://www.elections.state.md.us/voting/early_voting_sites.html

Bring a few copies of this info with you to the grocery store, parks, work (follow workplace rules) and other places where you interact with people.
Inform and give out needed materials.
If you really want to stretch yourself offer to provide transportation. Use common sense safety precautions, of course.
 
 
-2 # lfeuille 2016-04-10 19:49
It is too late for November. Legislation does not move that fast.
 
 
+2 # JJS 2016-04-11 04:52
There is no time like the present. Start now for the next rounds.
 
 
0 # bmiluski 2016-04-11 11:32
Amen to that Mary.
 
 
+2 # tapelt 2016-04-11 03:50
"Likewise the need to guarantee that the immense grassroots energies ignited by Bernie Sanders become an organized, tangible force for long-term change."

Very important! Join a local permanent political group in your area, and if there isn't one start one. It would be very sad to see Bernie's revolution fade away after November, even if he becomes President.
 
 
0 # spenel334 2016-04-11 13:26
All this is true and scary as Hell, but doesn't answer the question,
what can we do to prevent voter suppression that has't already been affirmed by new unethical laws?

If we assume, for convenience sake, that Hillary wins the nomination (I am a Bernie fan), both she and Bill have to be concerned about voter suppression. They must have some ideas. Anyone have any ideas how we and out?
 
 
0 # spenel334 2016-04-11 13:27
oops--Hw we find out!
 

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