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Excerpt: "As the 2016 election approaches, we must remember that our electronic voting system as it currently stands is thoroughly rigged. The entire outcome can be flipped with a few late night keystrokes, as was done in Ohio 2004."

Voting booths. (photo: Flickr)
Voting booths. (photo: Flickr)


Why We Must Now Adopt the "Ohio Plan" to Prevent the "Strip & Flip" of American Elections

By Bob Fitrakis and Harvey Wasserman, Reader Supported News

21 January 16

 

s the 2016 election approaches, we must remember that our electronic voting system as it currently stands is thoroughly rigged. The entire outcome can be flipped with a few late night keystrokes, as was done in Ohio 2004.

This year, at least 80% of the nation’s votes will be cast on electronic machines whose outcome can be altered by a governor and secretary of state with just a few keystrokes, and without detection.

There is a way – we call it “The Ohio Plan” – by which we can attain a fair and reliable vote count.

The Ohio Plan is this: 

  1. Voter registration must be universal and automatic for all citizens as they turn 18.

  2. Electronic poll books are banned, with all voter registration records maintained manually.

  3. All elections happen over a 4-day weekend – Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday – which together comprise a national holiday, preferably around Veterans Day in November.

  4. All voting happens on paper ballots, using recycled or hemp paper.

  5. All vote counting is done manually, with ballots preserved at least two years.

  6. Polls are run and ballots are counted by the nation’s high school and college students, who will get the days off and be paid a “scholarship” for their work at $15/hour.

Part One of the Ohio Plan is to guarantee all citizens are registered to vote when they turn 18. Postage-free mail-in forms are available at schools, post offices, driver’s license bureaus, etc.

Today millions of Americans, mostly of color, are being wrongfully denied their right to register, with decisive partisan impacts dating at least to Florida 2000.

Part Two of the Ohio Plan requires that these registration records be maintained on paper logbooks that will be present at the voting precincts on election day.

The great investigative reporter Greg Palast has reported that a proprietary computer program being used by the GOP is center stage in the purging of countless voters in more than a dozen states as you read this. Those being stripped of their right to vote are mostly African-American and Hispanic, as well as students and the elderly.

Stripping at least 90,000 such voters in Florida 2000 was key to putting George W. Bush in the White House for the first time. His official margin was less than 600 votes. More than 300,000 voters were stripped from electronic logbooks in urban, largely Democratic areas of Ohio prior to the 2004 election, which was officially given to George W. Bush by less than 119,000 votes.

Under the Ohio Plan, all voter registration rolls must be maintained on paper files with double-blind multi-partisan supervision (to include Greens and other minority parties as well as the Democrats and Republicans) to guarantee they are not illegally purged in the lead-up to Election Day.

Part Three of the Ohio Plan requires our elections include extensive voting hours over a full four-day weekend, including Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday. Vote counting should begin as the polls close on Tuesday.

The Constitution requires voting happen the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November, i.e. sometime between November 2 and November 8. But Tuesday is a work day, and millions of working Americans are deprived of their vote due to employment requirements. By extending access to the polls over a four-day holiday weekend we guarantee access to the millions who work as well as those who don’t.

Part Four of the Ohio Plan is to require all voting be done on paper ballots.

Electronic machines as currently constituted are virtually all corporate-owned. Courts have ruled the software is proprietary, meaning even the election boards that buy or lease the machines cannot verify the outcome. Internet voting is also impossible to verify. Thus our elections can be easily flipped with a few keystrokes by shadowy operatives, and without open public verification, as happened in Florida 2000, Ohio 2004 and elsewhere.

Germany, Ireland, Romania, Japan and Canada all conduct their elections on hand-counted paper ballots. Ours should be printed on recycled paper or paper made with hemp grown in the United States.

Part Five of the Ohio Plan requires that the ballots be hand-counted and preserved under federal protection for at least two years. Recounts are automatic, no matter what the apparent margin of victory, at public expense.

Part Six of the Ohio Plan provides for the nation’s polls to be run by our high school and college students, and for them to do the vote counting. They will be given time off from school to participate in this great civics lesson, and be paid at the level of any American city or state’s highest minimum wage, at this point $15/hour.

The provision for universal automatic voter registration has been endorsed by Democratic candidates Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Sanders has endorsed the requirement of universal hand-counted paper ballots, as has more than 90% of the American public.

It should be understood that the ongoing electronic stripping of our poll books, as reported by Greg Palast, has already eliminated hundreds of thousands of American voters, most of them people of color.

The way things stand in 2016 with electronic vote counting, there is no paper trail, no transparency and no public verification. The Information Technology companies with the state contracts to tally most US elections have full control over the outcome, with no public scrutiny or recourse.

Thus the election of 2016 is likely to be decided by a tiny handful of governors, secretaries of state and computer operators in the deep hours of election night, with no verification or recourse available to the public, and no necessary connection to how the public actually voted.

We support strict regulation of campaign financing. But without the mechanics of reliably registering our citizens to vote and guaranteeing an open, public, verified vote count, all else is moot.

We hope at least that much can be dealt with by Election Day 2016, lest it more accurately be known, once again, as Corporate Selection Day.



Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman are election protection activists. Bob & Harvey’s “The Sixth Jim Crow: Electronic Election Protection & The 2016 Strip/Flip Selection” is available at www.freepress.org., along with six other books on election protection.

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+83 # tswhiskers 2016-01-21 15:23
Thank you Mr. Fitrakis for reminding us of the criminal methods used by state republicans to corrupt the 2000 and 2004 elections. Greg Palast reported extensively on these corrupted voting machines manufactured by Diebold and other companies in 2004. These suggestions which would use only manual methods to vote, record and count votes seem the best way of keeping elections honest. I suppose Reps. will again bray about "voter fraud" as an excuse to tamper with voter rolls. Therefore we need poll observers located in minority polling spots, just as they do in 3d world countries. We all must remember just how important state secretaries of state really are; it is they who control the placement of voting machines and how voting is organized and handled in each precinct. I strongly hope that groups like the Southern Poverty Law Center and the ACLU will keep their eagle eyes on precincts esp. those run by Rep. Sec'ys of State. Also, those who intend to vote, REGISTER TO VOTE NOW and then be sure to vote in Nov.
 
 
+39 # Radscal 2016-01-21 20:54
Diebold was sold and now goes by the name "Dominion Voting Systems."

That's Dominion as in the Christian Taliban who believe that the US should be a theocracy ruled by Biblical Law. And yes, the owner of the company is a Christian Dominionist, so it's no coincidence.

While it's true that the elections that we've heard about that were likely thrown by computer voting were won by Republicans, the Democrats have done nothing to stop it.

In 2004, Howard Dean was shown a computer voting machine have its votes flipped. He then became chair of the DNC, but never tried to fight to get rid of these machines. I think that's telling.
 
 
+7 # RaW 2016-01-22 07:43
That is some truly "Holy Shit!"
 
 
+12 # vicnada 2016-01-23 13:53
Yes, and being reminded of the criminal methods leading to Bush v Gore, shouldn't we resolve now how Bernie, under similar circumstances must not concede, fold his tent and go home like Gore did? He claimed this was to avoid a Constitutional crisis. But haven't we lived 16 years of Constitutional crises since? So what are we going to do differently WHEN (not IF) the votes are flipped in the final seconds of this election?
 
 
+5 # pewtergod 2016-01-26 22:51
We will do nothing, and most Americans will not even be aware that anything has happened, as usual. I fear things will have to get much worse before Americans revolt against their prison. Many still harbor the belief that this is a free country. Even as our 'Free Trade Agreements" give our national sovereignty to corporate boards, and send our jobs overseas and wealth to the top .01 percentile. The real question now is will we reclaim our natural rights in time to prevent an apocalypse?
 
 
+93 # elizabethblock 2016-01-21 18:05
Yes. Canada votes on paper ballots. In Toronto we have machines to count the vote for municipal elections, where we vote for mayor, councillor, school trustee, and sometimes for a resolution or two; but the machines count paper ballots, so if there's a problem the machine can be checked.
If Canada can do it, the US can do it.
 
 
+19 # Jim Rocket 2016-01-22 09:08
Also, if there's any dispute, the paper ballots are hand counted.
 
 
+18 # tswhiskers 2016-01-22 10:25
It's not a matter of if we can, but if we will do it. For a long time, the Dems. tried to "disappear" rather than make a fuss about Rep. behavior re. voting machines. Radscal's example of Howard Dean's apathetic refusal to oppose those corrupt machines makes that clear. Even now the Dems aren't doing as much as they could to combat Rep. shady behavior. Sometimes they even seem bent on colluding with the Reps. in small ways; e.g. Wasserman-Schul tz's insistence on scheduling only 4 debates, and putting them on weekend TV. I have asked why the Dems. behave in this way esp. during the Bush II years and have never received a decent answer.
 
 
+4 # pewtergod 2016-01-26 23:03
The debates were scheduled against football games to keep viewership as small as possible, so Schultz, a personal friend of Clinton, could guarantee no other Dem would have a chance to do to Clinton what Obama did last time. Most of the Democratic Party would be considered Right-wing in most other advanced western countries. Both parties have their corporate pay-masters that they are beholden to. What really bothers me is that their job is more important to them than the future of their children.
 
 
+9 # GreenBee 2016-01-22 14:05
Well, of course we can do it. But most of the populace here in the U.S. doesn't have a clue about any of this, and many of those likely don't give a damn.
 
 
+59 # reiverpacific 2016-01-21 18:14
Don't forget; in 2004, Ken Blackwell as OHIO Secretary of State, CYNICALLY and almost mockingly, rigged the election for Dimwits Bush and Catherine Harris as ditto for Florida under Jeb of the Shrubbery, did the same for him in the 2000 elections.
So how do you prevent this kind of nepotism state-by-state?
In Oregon, there is voting by mail, which seems to work pretty well but we don't have a bent Governor and S.O.S.
 
 
+6 # bmiluski 2016-01-22 06:53
Voting by mail is just as rigged. After all, they could get "lost".
 
 
+4 # reiverpacific 2016-01-22 13:02
Quoting bmiluski:
Voting by mail is just as rigged. After all, they could get "lost".


Well, it's worked very well in Oregon so far but as a mentioned, we don't have bent officials -at least on the dominant democratic party.
 
 
+6 # tapelt 2016-01-23 05:50
Quoting bmiluski:
Voting by mail is just as rigged. After all, they could get "lost".


1. How would they know which ones to "lose" and which ones to leave alone?

2. You would have to do something to large numbers of ballots to change all but the closest of elections. This would be very hard to pull off with the other side watching. Electronic voting machine fraud only takes a few minutes at most to change tens of thousands of votes, and can be done when no one is watching.
 
 
0 # bmiluski 2016-01-23 13:25
The votes have to be opened in order to be counted. Once open and read, the ones not voting "correctly" could be "lost".
 
 
+3 # Hooligan 2016-01-23 22:29
Quoting bmiluski:
The votes have to be opened in order to be counted. Once open and read, the ones not voting "correctly" could be "lost".

It is much harder & can only be done on a comparatively few votes. Votes on a machine can be changed en masse.
 
 
+38 # tr4302@gmail.com 2016-01-21 18:40
This is really staggering! What can I(we) do to bring pressure on our states to adopt this?
 
 
+34 # Emmanuel Goldstein 2016-01-21 19:14
Write a letter-to-the-e ditor of your local newspaper, for one. Seek out likeminded friends and acquaintances. Seek out a state legislator who might be sympathetic and provide him/her with copies of this article and others, urging them to lead the way with an appropriate bill.
 
 
+7 # Hooligan 2016-01-23 22:36
Many thanks to Debra Bowen. She was Calif. Sec. of State a while back. A small groupQuoting Emmanuel Goldstein:
Write a letter-to-the-editor of your local newspaper, for one. Seek out likeminded friends and acquaintances. Seek out a state legislator who might be sympathetic and provide him/her with copies of this article and others, urging them to lead the way with an appropriate bill.
Quoting Emmanuel Goldstein:
Write a letter-to-the-editor of your local newspaper, for one. Seek out likeminded friends and acquaintances. Seek out a state legislator who might be sympathetic and provide him/her with copies of this article and others, urging them to lead the way with an appropriate bill.

Many thanks to Debra Bowen who was Sec. of State in Calif. a while back. A voting rights group approached her before she was elected about this problem. She said she would decertify all machines in Calif. & test then independently for "hackability." She was elected & did so. All the machines pretty much flunked so with the exception of a machine for use by the disabled at polling places, all other votes could be by paper ballots which is why we now have that in Calif. Unfortunately we still have OCR machines to count the votes...so there's still more work to be done. THANKS TO ALL WHO ARE WORKING ON THIS. IT'S SO IMPORTANT.
 
 
+1 # SHK 2016-02-03 03:26
My husband and I vote by absentee ballot which we then hand deliver. It must be on paper because you can't vote on a machine by mail. Try it. You'll like it. ;D
 
 
+28 # intheEPZ 2016-01-21 18:54
"The way things stand in 2016 with electronic vote counting, there is no paper trail, no transparency and no public verification. The Information Technology companies with the state contracts to tally most US elections have full control over the outcome, with no public scrutiny or recourse." How can it be that after 2004, if vote flipping was proved, nothing was done to correct it? It makes no sense. Do both parties hope to gain from the lack of accountability and ease of cheating?
 
 
+21 # Lowflyin Lolana 2016-01-21 19:52
The "media" did not cover the hack, and no one knew about it, so there was no public pressure to change anything. Ask around: do people know what happened? Mostly, they don't.
 
 
+3 # Hooligan 2016-01-23 22:39
Quoting Lowflyin Lolana:
The "media" did not cover the hack, and no one knew about it, so there was no public pressure to change anything. Ask around: do people know what happened? Mostly, they don't.

You're right. Most of the media deliberately ignored it but Rolling Stone wrote a very good article about it and Brad Blog did extensive work on this.
 
 
+8 # economagic 2016-01-21 20:49
You're kinda new here, ain'tcha?!
 
 
+3 # Finnst1216 2016-01-22 09:17
Quoting economagic:
You're kinda new here, ain'tcha?!

Well, I think it's worth asking for the proof. I have believed that the 2004 Ohio results were falsified, but when I make my case for that to others and am asked for the proof, I have found little real proof to refer people to. Where can I send people to see this proof? Just repeating it over and over, or saying it was proven isn't cutting it with those I'm trying to convince.
 
 
+8 # tswhiskers 2016-01-22 10:58
Go to gregpalast.com. There should be a library of his columns. Go back to 2003 and 2004 to see his indictment of Rep.-led states' misuse of voting machines. I think his columns are also an indictment of America's corporate-owned press, as many newspapers were and are self-censoring on many topics, not least this one.
 
 
+4 # Finnst1216 2016-01-22 11:21
Thanks, will do.
 
 
+3 # pewtergod 2016-01-26 23:44
John Conyers and 11 other Democratic reps. went to Ohio and investigated the charges. Among other things the Conyers Commission found that:
"There were 93,000 spoiled ballots where no vote was cast for president, the majority of which have yet to be inspected."
"We learned of improper purging and other registration errors by election officials that probably disenfranchised tens of thousands of voters statewide."
"In Miami county, voter turnout was an improbable and highly suspect 98.55 percent, and after 100 percent of the precincts were reported, an additional 19,000 extra votes were recorded for President Bush."
"In the run-up to Election Day, the following actions by Mr. Blackwell, the Republican Party, and elections officials, disenfranchised hundreds of thousands of Ohio citizens, predominantly Minority and Democratic voters."
"In many cases these irregularities were caused by intentional misconduct and illegal behavior, much of it involving Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell, the co-chair of the Bush-Cheney campaign in Ohio."
And this does not even go into the infamous 'Man-in-the-mid dle' computer hack. The report is out in book form, and has become a primer for republicans on how to disenfranchise voters and steal elections.
 
 
+12 # chasashmore 2016-01-22 06:51
One of several problems contributing to democratic silence on the issue is that democratic officials are terrified of looking like conspiracists: "How could ANYone think that the American voting system is rigged? This is America!" Some Rep from Michigan -- I believe it was John Conyers -- spoke out forcefully about Ohio 2004 soon after the fact, but he was ignored.
 
 
+27 # jon 2016-01-21 19:34
Republicans are always talking about running this country like it was a business. If this was a business, an audit of all systems associated would have been performed by now, and the very simple and obvious traceability controls would be in place - guaranteed!
 
 
+17 # economagic 2016-01-21 21:09
Good point! Of course, the very idea of running government -- or education -- like a business is so loopy-loo it deserves to be whacked unmercifully with a rolled-up magazine! The purposes of these institutions, and the ways they necessarily function, differ in degrees that are truly staggering.

Business is the only human institution for which private material gain is the primary purpose, and increasingly the ONLY purpose. It is worthwhile to ponder for a few moments just what the purposes of education and government are, in order to better understand how ludicrous those suggestions really are.
 
 
+2 # RLF 2016-01-24 07:35
Business tactics saved a lot of money on water in Flint!
 
 
+7 # Radscal 2016-01-21 22:39
True. Unless the business was an illegal bookie operation. In that case, all the records would be on flash paper that disappears in a poof.
 
 
+12 # Lowflyin Lolana 2016-01-21 19:51
I wish this article mentioned more specifics about 04. Fitrakis already wrote about that, but, not many people know what happened. Among people I know who consider themselves informed citizens, not one has ever brought up King Lincoln Bronzeville and the court filing that shows how the hack was done. On the rare occasion I've raised the issue: blank stares.
 
 
-9 # MidwestTom 2016-01-21 20:03
I am not for excluding any individual who wants to vote and understands what they are doing. What scares me is when we "dig up" voters who have no clue and tell them how to vote. Two simple questions would eliminate 15% to 29 % of the potential voters. Those questions: 1/( Who is President of the United States now? (9% cannot answer that); 2.) Is Judge Judy a Judge on the US SupremeCourt? That question would remove 14% of the potential voters.

The people who would miss these questions may give us Donald Trump as President. He will be the Poster Child for why not everybody should be allowed to vote. Idiot votes sway elections a lot more than voter fraud.
 
 
+28 # economagic 2016-01-21 21:13
Some people have always considered democracy tantamount to mob rule, and a good many still do. The "slippery slope" argument is generally recognized as a logical fallacy (though not in the strictest sense). But once we choose to disqualify "certain people," there is no clear point where that ends to which everyone will agree.
 
 
+4 # Glen 2016-01-22 07:37
economagic, thank you for bringing the democratic attitude into the conversation. A democracy does include the individual. Sure, the majority may rule, but that majority is expected to look out for the individual.

As I have stated in the past, the U.S. is too big and too populated to function as a true democracy. And let's not omit corruption from the list of issues that interfere with democratic functioning.
 
 
+5 # kalpal 2016-01-23 11:00
If you want educated Americans voting, you need to eliminate the Guardians Of Privilege from obstructing investment in education.
 
 
+2 # pewtergod 2016-01-27 00:09
First, most of the people you refer to already do not vote. Second, unless a court and a psychiatrist declare a person mentally incompetent, to deny them the right to vote denies you the right to call the country a democracy. Yes, idiot votes often sway elections, but a great many of them are by fairly educated, but indoctrinated, people. Perhaps what we really need is to require channels on the idiot box to go back to the old days, when they were required to provide an hour a day of informative and educational broadcasting to pay for their license to broadcast, only this time without commercials, so they are not swayed by their corporate sponsors.
 
 
+19 # Robbee 2016-01-21 21:18
an excellent proposal!

also i strongly recommend as follows -

1) election day registration of every voter not shown, on precinct rolls, as registered

2) each poll remains open until all voters arriving in line before closing, have voted

3) volunteer poll watchers, one for each party listed on the ballot, to oversee that each ballot gets accurately counted

4) real time transparency in recording, by secretary of state staff, of each precinct count - so that every alleged discrepancy will immediately be checked

5) voting by mail, supplemented, of course, by precinct voting in person

doubtless this disgusting congress will not be taking up any reforms

obama should proceed by executive order to implement reforms

when gops sue to block the prez order, and courts block his order, scotus should rule for or against democracy

bernie has prroposed various reforms, not including paper ballots - i pray he joins the paper ballot, only, proponents! - go bernie!
 
 
-2 # RLF 2016-01-24 07:37
It's good but I don't think we need 4 days to vote..maybe 2...and a fine if you don't vote!
 
 
+13 # Pikewich 2016-01-22 00:09
Nahhh....

This makes too much sense!

Can't happen here, can it?

Well, if Bernie Sanders can do so well anything is be possible!

Let's DO IT!
 
 
+7 # nice2bgreat 2016-01-22 03:36
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Count Me In.

On Board.
.
 
 
+11 # bmiluski 2016-01-22 06:56
What a great idea.
But I would also like to get rid of the electoral college. As long as we have it, we do not have a democracy because our votes don't count. The electoral college can vote anyway they want. They do not have to cast a vote for the winner of a state.
 
 
+6 # Radscal 2016-01-22 18:00
Yep. I'd add restructuring the Senate. Both the Electoral College and granting each State exactly 2 Senators were compromises made to convince Slave States to ratify the Constitution.

The Senate system makes low-population states more powerful per capita than high-population states.

A vote for a Senator in Wyoming is worth almost 70 times more than my vote for a CA Senator.
 
 
+13 # RaW 2016-01-22 07:59
I have only one reservation: the counting by high school students. Hand-counting is at best inaccurate and at worst can be changed by the preference of the person doing the counting. That's why we use barcodes at stores, and trust them.

I've been thinking about a somewhat different system:
Vote on NUMBERED paper ballots, pulled from a book, perforated down the middle, with voting marks going across the perforation. (The number is not associated with your name.)
Put one half in the machine to count and be retained for recounts.
Bring the other half home.
Check your RECORDED vote BY NUMBER on the internet. (It's still a secret ballot because the number isn't associated with your name.)
If it doesn't match, raise hell. You AND the officials have the ballot to check by number.
If the total number of recorded votes don't match the range of numbered paper ballots missing from the book, there's a problem: Confirm the number range in the book to the numbers associated with votes counted, and discard those outside the range.
 
 
+4 # Radscal 2016-01-22 18:02
I LOVE your idea for being able to insure one's vote was tabulated properly!

It solves my concern about machine tallying of even paper ballots, and is actually more transparent than hand-counting.
 
 
-1 # bmiluski 2016-01-23 13:27
Assuming you have a computer and/or know how to use it.
 
 
+2 # Radscal 2016-01-23 21:24
I suppose checking that your vote was tallied correctly could be set up to be done by phone also. Enter codes onto one's keypad the way one works through "help" lines.
 
 
+8 # BrainiacV 2016-01-22 10:48
In my part of Iowa, we use mark sense paper ballots. They allow automated counting, and provide a paper trail that would allow recounts either manually or other automated systems.

Electronic screens that do not provide a paper receipt are untrustworthy. They do not provide a paper trail that can be verified independently.
 
 
+1 # Nell H 2016-01-25 22:47
BrainiacV, Having scanners count votes is fine, but you also need a process to audit the ballots. Counting a small randomly selection of ballots by hand is the way to do it. If the random selection does not agree with machine-read results, keep increasing the size of the selection until agreement is reached or all the ballots are checked by hand.
 
 
+12 # tm4 2016-01-22 13:11
Mr Fitrakis & Mr Wasserman should write this up in a petition & ask Bernie to ask people to sign it, bringing it really largely into the national conversation with a goal/demand by the people for immediate resolution. Good for US, good for Bernie, the only candidate appealing to people of all US political spectrums and the only candidate calling for a political revolution along with his candidacy --

-- so that we can actually get something done in the manufactured political stagnation being created by a $ystem controlled by those who've been given (and/or took) the absolutely anti-american opportunity to grow 'too large to fail' and to grow more powerful than the commonwealth & thus take it over, or at the least, severely hi-jack it.

Seems that nothing other than Focus & Unity can save Us and have the power to overturn what's been done. Bernie is without a doubt, the most potent & honest unifier we have.
 
 
+8 # tanis 2016-01-22 14:51
O finally, I have been waiting for this matter to come up. Let's keep it up!
 
 
+5 # sabrinasdaydream 2016-01-23 01:49
This is an amazing plan!!! I will be sharing everywhere. Thank you~!~
 
 
+5 # tapelt 2016-01-23 05:52
Anybody who hasn't watched the FRONTLINE episode of how electronic voting machines can be rigged, PLEASE WATCH IT!!!
 
 
+3 # Radscal 2016-01-23 21:25
And the documentary "Hacking Democracy."
 
 
+3 # kalpal 2016-01-23 11:01
The RW reactionaries will never permit free and fair elections. If they can't cheat then why play?
 
 
+2 # spenel334 2016-01-23 21:38
I agree with all of this, and any actions to keep it from happening again.
Do the voting machines count votes as they are completed by each individual, so that when the voting is closed, results are known? If so, can't someone in every precinct record the results when the poll closes? That seems to me to be the only way fraud might be prevented: if someone could track the votes as they were counted. If machines can be flipped in the middle of the night, in a few minutes, how could anyone prove that? You'd have to have someone guarding every machine in every precinct in the country, all night long, or at least every machine in a suspicious place. Not a chance, I fear.

In Florida in 2000, so many votes were "lost" in God knows where, swamps or mud puddles, from areas with poor and non-white voters, and Bush allegedly 'won' by so few votes, that it probably could have been proven, or at least shown to be true, but with machines, I can't imagine how.
 
 
+3 # Jump Off Joe 2016-01-23 21:42
As a former official election monitor in vote by mail Oregon, there's another issue that can make any election subject to fraud: voting officials here get thousands of blank ballots WEEKS before election night. It would not be hard-at all-for a corrupt official to fill out a lot of ballots however they please, and substitute them for an equal number of "real" ballots.

It would be harder, but still possible,for non officials to do the same thing. In my county, lights were seen during the night in the room where valid ballots are stored. The county clerk/election official told me, "Oh, that was JUST THE CLEANING CREW"(!)

I hope the Ohio plan doesn't allow voting officials to have access to blank ballots in this way.
 
 
+4 # Hooligan 2016-01-23 22:24
#reiverpacific, In San Diego we have a HUGE PROBLEM. Michael Vu who ran the Voting Scam in Ohio with Blackwell is our current Registrar of Voters. Any suggestions?
 
 
+2 # Nell H 2016-01-25 22:42
New voting machines will have paper ballots because people have recognized the vulnerability of other machines. One possible source of undetectable hacking with paper ballots is barcodes printed on the ballots. If there is a barcode on the ballot and you, the voter, cannot read the barcode, the barcode could compromise your right to a secret ballot or worse. The vote will be read by a scanner from the barcode, so you do not know who you voted for.
 
 
+3 # pewtergod 2016-01-27 09:57
Voting machines need to be open-source, so any programmer can check to see if they are legit. They'd have a paper printout for recount and be designed by university computer science departments. No one, including ex-felons, should be denied the right to vote if they are US citizens.
 

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