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Simpich writes: "McGovern just wrote the definitive argument on the disappointments of the Obama presidency - and why it will take an older and more independent individual like Bernie Sanders to get this country anywhere near back on track."

John F. Kennedy on the campaign trail in 1960. (photo: Ted Spiegel/CORBIS)
John F. Kennedy on the campaign trail in 1960. (photo: Ted Spiegel/CORBIS)


Obama Reminds Allies: “Remember What Happened to Dr. King?”

By Bill Simpich, Reader Supported News

12 June 15

 

If there were prosecutions for Bush-era crimes “the CIA, NSA and military would revolt.”
– Christopher Edley, dean of UC Berkeley’s law school and Obama transition team

ay McGovern knows the terrain – he is a former CIA analyst who has prepared presidential Daily Briefs and has chaired National Intelligence Estimates.

McGovern just wrote the definitive argument on the disappointments of the Obama presidency – and why it will take an older and more independent individual like Bernie Sanders to get this country anywhere near back on track.

McGovern points out that fifty-two years ago this week, John F. Kennedy delivered a speech at American University that called for cooperation rather than confrontation with the Soviet Union.

“Kennedy made an urgent appeal to slow down the arms race, and then backed up the rhetoric with a surprise announcement that the U.S. was halting nuclear testing. This daring step terrified those sitting atop the military-industrial complex and, in my opinion, was among the main reasons behind Kennedy’s assassination some five months later.”

The author of this piece used to think JFK was a Cold Warrior. Then he learned how serious Kennedy was about trying to stop the endless arms race. It is stunning to read about how JFK fought his own military to avoid war in Berlin, in Cuba, and in Vietnam.

Kennedy’s death meant that the American military buildup would continue unabated to this very day. The arms race bankrupted the Soviet Union, and is bankrupting this country as well.

In 2008, people united around Obama with the hope that he would turn the ship of state away from war and toward peace.

President Obama and his family. (photo: Brooks Kraft/Corbis for TIME)
President Barack Obama and his family. (photo: Brooks Kraft/Corbis for TIME)

Christopher Edley is the Dean of Boalt Hall, the law school at UC Berkeley, and served on Obama’s transition team. Edley provides to all interested a careful description of the transition team’s fears about what would happen if there were prosecutions for Bush-era crimes. The consensus was that “the CIA, NSA, and military would revolt.” Edley sums it up neatly: “Sometimes politics trumps rule of law.”

When Obama tried to close down the Guantanamo detention camp right after the inauguration, he was told by the power elite that it was impossible. In May 2009, while the Democrats held 59 Senate seats, the Senate blocked any attempt to transfer the prisoners to the United States by a vote of 90-6.” Zachary Katznelson, a senior attorney at the ACLU, said that “President Obama has enough control and power that he can get these men out today if he has the political will to do so ... It is a political decision.”

When military leaders got together with Obama to determine the future of war in Afghanistan in 2009, all of the options given to him were to increase the number of troops. Obama went along. Otherwise, as Rolling Stone reported, Obama would “face a full-scale mutiny of his generals.” Obama fired one of these generals, Stanley McChrystal, only after he mocked Obama’s advisors and Vice President Biden right in front of reporter Michael Hastings.

Obama has said he wants to bring an end to nuclear weapons. The states of the former Soviet Union relinquished most of theirs in the years after 1991. Yet Obama continues to invest untold billions into modernizing nuclear weapons, and approves virtually every military spending request.

For three years, Ray McGovern has revealed how Obama reacted when he was confronted with the impact of these decisions, from a story told to him first-hand by a friend at the scene:

Shortly before his re-election in 2012, Obama reportedly was braced at a small dinner party by wealthy donors who wanted to know whatever happened to the ‘progressive Obama.’ The President did not take kindly to the criticism, rose from the table, and said, ‘Don’t you remember what happened to Dr. King?’”

It is, of course, a fair question as to whether Obama should have run for President if he knew such fears might impinge on his freedom of decision. But let’s ask the other question: What did happen to Martin Luther King Jr.? Would you believe that the vast majority of Americans know only that he was killed and have no idea as to who killed him and why?

McGovern finds himself mulling over a 1999 trial in Memphis not far from where King was murdered. In a wrongful death lawsuit initiated by the King family, the 12 jurors, six black and six white, returned after two hours of deliberation with a verdict that Dr. King was killed by a group that included members of agencies of his own government. McGovern concludes:

My hunch is that Obama walks around afraid, and that this helps explain why he feels he has to kowtow to the worst kind of thugs and liars lingering in his own administration – the torturers, the perjurers, and the legerdemain lawyers who can even make waterboarding, which Obama publicly condemned as torture, magically legal.

I am slightly more forgiving than Ray McGovern – not much. I never expected very much. Obama is still a relatively young man, with a wonderful wife and two young daughters. He has a lot to lose.

There have been repeated failures by the Secret Service during his administration. Obama told the Secret Service that he wanted the code name “Renegade.” I think there’s a reason why. I have heard that during the early days there were run-ins between the Secret Service and Obama’s security people.

Journalist Ronald Kessler wrote in his book about the Secret Service that at Obama’s inauguration “the lack of security was absurd.” Kessler felt the same way when the Secret Service ordered that the magnetometer be turned off prior to an Obama rally of 17,000 at the Reunion Hall in Dallas on February 20, 2008. It’s hard to imagine what would have happened if Obama had been killed in Dallas that night.

Why are there so many incidents at the White House involving breach of the security of the president and his family?

When a Washington couple crashed the first State dinner in 2009 because the Secret Service failed to check if they were on the guest list?

Or when Sasha Obama was inside the White House in 2011, a man with a semiautomatic rifle took seven shots at the building? The supervising Secret Service sergeant told his officers to stand down. The claim was the shots were not aimed at the White House. Only when a housekeeper found broken glass and a chunk of cement did the Secret Service acknowledge that bullets were fired at the White House. The president and Michelle Obama were livid.

Or when a fence-jumper ran right inside the White House door unchallenged last year? The security alarm had been disabled because it was “too noisy.” If he had not dashed past the stairway, he could have gone up a half flight and been inside the family’s living quarters.

We need a full investigation of the Secret Service – the list of outrages put together by NBC News is voluminous. We also need presidential candidates like Bernie Sanders who are fearless and focus on the hardest issues right at the very beginning. I remember seeing a YouTube video of the Obamas discussing their fears of assassination. I give them credit for coming forward. They needed to go the last mile.

Heroes and heroines have warned their families from time immemorial that all of us must be prepared to pay the ultimate price. This is not a pleasant topic, but the subject cannot be treated as taboo. Preventive medicine is the best medicine.

President Barack Obama and his family. (photo: Callie Shell/Aurora for TIME)
President Barack Obama and his family. (photo: Callie Shell/Aurora for TIME)



Bill Simpich is an Oakland attorney who knows that it doesn’t have to be like this. He was part of the legal team chosen by Public Justice as Trial Lawyer of the Year in 2003 for winning a jury verdict of 4.4 million in Judi Bari’s lawsuit against the FBI and the Oakland police.

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+20 # A_Har 2015-06-12 09:29
In short....he's their puppet.

Edited to add: I have to laugh at the negative "votes" on this one.

Sh!t....the truth hurts. But you have to face reality straight up. It isn't fun, but it is the only thing that is workable.
 
 
+95 # reiverpacific 2015-06-12 09:38
This reinforces my deeply seated and oft-stated on RSN and other suspicion that Obama was taken aside and "Redirected", made hip if you like, of "How things REALLY work Bubba, push against it too hard and just remember JFK, RFK, MLK and others -and your beautiful family" shortly before or after inauguration.
And as for the wanton laxity of the Secret Service, this goes back at least to JFK, at the precise time of his assassination, the phalanx of motor cycle security guards, which were supposed to be in a surround pattern to the Governor's limousine, held back just before approach to the grassy knoll, leaving the limo's flanks completely exposed and providing a clear shot at the target.
Recall the blatant open carry presences of rifle-armed knuckle-dragger s being permitted to stalk the periphery of several of Obama's public appearances.
I personally think that Ob' is a decent man and has taken a lot of stick on RSN and from other alleged "Progressives" ("Wimp", "Liar" and other anger-driven bile) without this threat being taken into account.
"Progressive" to me at least, connotes reflective understanding and humanitarian considerations; NOT shoot-from-the- hip knee-jerk frustration.
Yes, he's disappointed me too many times during his term -but then I never expected anything but a right/center President as permitted by the "electability points quotient" in this 1.25 -party, entrenched, money-is-power- driven political system.
How would his critics act knowing all this?
 
 
+40 # A_Har 2015-06-12 09:59
Quoting reiverpacific:
Yes, he's disappointed me too many times during his term -but then I never expected anything but a right/center President as permitted by the "electability points quotient" in this 1.25 -party, entrenched, money-is-power-driven political system.
How would his critics act knowing all this?

I suspected all this and I NEVER voted for him. As to disappointment. ..well, we are in a collapse. The empire is going down, and he was hand picked for the "transition" away from Democracy. He is a convenient figurehead.

Still he is corrupted. He could have resigned instead of going along with all this or not run in the first place. He probably had the same kind of "redirection" that John Perkins talks about in his book *Confessions of an Economic Hit Man* where high officials of foreign governments were made offers they couldn't refuse. If they went along with the gutting of their country, they were richly rewarded, and if not and proceeded with policies for the benefit of their people, there was a heart attack or a plane crash in their future.

This view is far from popular here--people want to believe in something even if it is not true. It makes them feel safe in this very unsafe world. Ordinary people are being herded by those who actually run this show.
 
 
+42 # reiverpacific 2015-06-12 10:26
Quoting A_Har:
Quoting reiverpacific:
Yes, he's disappointed me too many times during his term -but then I never expected anything but a right/center President as permitted by the "electability points quotient" in this 1.25 -party, entrenched, money-is-power-driven political system.
How would his critics act knowing all this?

I suspected all this and I NEVER voted for him. As to disappointment...well, we are in a collapse. The empire is going down, and he was hand picked for the "transition" away from Democracy. He is a convenient figurehead.

Still he is corrupted. He could have resigned instead of going along with all this or not run in the first place. He probably had the same kind of "redirection" that John Perkins talks about in his book *Confessions of an Economic Hit Man* where high officials of foreign governments were made offers they couldn't refuse. If they went along with the gutting of their country, they were richly rewarded, and if not and proceeded with policies for the benefit of their people, there was a heart attack or a plane crash in their future.

This view is far from popular here--people want to believe in something even if it is not true. It makes them feel safe in this very unsafe world. Ordinary people are being herded by those who actually run this show.

So we need to work at exposing and resisting the true Oligarchs, King-makers, thugs and oppressors!
D'you think you'll ever get anything else while they hold sway?
 
 
+27 # A_Har 2015-06-12 10:37
Quoting reiverpacific:
So we need to work at exposing and resisting the true Oligarchs, King-makers, thugs and oppressors!
D'you think you'' ever get anything else while they hold sway?

Agreed, but reality is *a very hard sell.* Unfortunately, I think people will have to lose even more than they have to wake up from the dream.

Sadly though, people who are poor and desperate are more easily controlled. However....thos e at the top do not seem to remember the French Revolution. If people lose too much, they "lose it."
 
 
-8 # pbbrodie 2015-06-12 10:59
To A_Har,
Why do you insist on insulting us, as if you are the only one who understands the obvious!?
 
 
+2 # A_Har 2015-06-12 11:28
Quoting pbbrodie:
To A_Har,
Why do you insist on insulting us, as if you are the only one who understands the obvious!?

You take my comments as a insult? Why do you see them as directed at you?

Even at this late date people still support Obummer and the Democrats regardless of what they do; that is why I say reality is a hard sell for some. If that was not you, there is no need to take offence....if the shoe fits--wear it.

Just a few weeks ago, one poster here (bingers) told me that there was no such person as Obummer, and anyone who refers to him that way is an asshat...meanin g ME. So many are still (from my POV) in some kind of dream. While it may be obvious to you, it CERTAINLY is not obvious to a whole lot of people making comments here.

Under some other articles posted here, comments found under this one would be considered to be "conspiracy" to many confirmed partisans. What they still don't take into account is that the CIA invented the term conspiracy theory to silence questioning of the official government story around the JFK assassination.

Also, if you post comments on internet boards, it helps to develop a thick skin. You especially can't be too sensitive if you post on politics which often turns pretty nasty. I can confirm this from my experience elsewhere.
 
 
+5 # wrknight 2015-06-14 06:48
Quoting A_Har:
I suspected all this and I NEVER voted for him.

So, are you saying you voted for Romney or you voted for a third party candidate or you didn't vote at all?
If you voted for Romney, then I need say no more. If you voted for a third party candidate, my hat's off to you. If you didn't vote at all, then you are of no use to any of us and have no right to complain about your government.
 
 
+1 # A_Har 2015-06-16 00:09
Quoting wrknight:
Quoting A_Har:
I suspected all this and I NEVER voted for him.

So, are you saying you voted for Romney or you voted for a third party candidate or you didn't vote at all?
If you voted for Romney, then I need say no more. If you voted for a third party candidate, my hat's off to you. If you didn't vote at all, then you are of no use to any of us and have no right to complain about your government.


In 2008 I wrote in someone on the ballot, and in 2012, I voted for Jill Stein. My SO is so disgusted with how it is all going he has UNREGISTERED from voting.

As to complaining, George Carlin had some choice things to say about voting and complaining.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efKguI0NFek

Some have said that since our system is corrupt beyond your wildest dreams, when you vote, you actually LEND LEGITIMACY to that corrupt system.

I still vote, but it does often seem like an exercise in futility.
 
 
+35 # REDPILLED 2015-06-12 12:55
Before the 2008 election, Obama tipped his Wall St./Corporate hand by his economic advisors, Robert Rubin and all his other neoliberal cronies. That's why many of us did NOT vote for him then, or in 2012. Democrats are the OTHER Wall St./Corporate Party since Bill & Hillary, and BOTH parties are imperialist and militarist.
 
 
+11 # lfeuille 2015-06-12 19:47
Quoting REDPILLED:
Before the 2008 election, Obama tipped his Wall St./Corporate hand by his economic advisors, Robert Rubin and all his other neoliberal cronies. That's why many of us did NOT vote for him then, or in 2012. Democrats are the OTHER Wall St./Corporate Party since Bill & Hillary, and BOTH parties are imperialist and militarist.

Even before deciding to run for President, Obama signaled that he was not a serious progressive by adopting Lieberman as his "mentor". I didn't have high expectations either but I did expect him to try to follow through on specific campaign promises, like Guantanamo, and I was really floor when he threw seniors under the bus by putting Social Security and Medicare on the table.
 
 
+8 # AMLLLLL 2015-06-12 20:37
My theory is that Obama the candidate had to visit the Bilderberg Group and made a deal with the devil, which he probably thought was an easy trade; now he must carry it out or one of his daughters will disappear..
 
 
+1 # dquandle 2015-06-15 15:00
Obama wasn't "redirected". He came into the whole thing with a warmongering, plutocrat-lovin g proto-fascist bent, and has been proceeding along these lines all the way through. This was the "straight path" he intended to tale all along. He's not "disappointing" . Disappointing is when you walk five blocks to the store to get an aglet for your shoelace, and their out of aglets.

He's criminal
 
 
+20 # jpmarat 2015-06-12 09:48
There have been Secret Service (needs new name, culture) lapses under other Presidents. Obama came to office with a shallow surge of support among those who quickly go away. He had no real power base. He figured he could not take on National-Securi ty-for-Profits, banksters, Big Energy, Big Pharmas, etc., etc. I think he feared them killing his regime more than killing him personally, giving Biden a surge. I think he did fear for the welfare of "his girls." When he, against top economics advise, aborted his own STIMULU$, he affixed the seal of doom. A crisis is a TERRIBLE thing to WASTE. He personally guaranteed a decisive 2010 victory for GOPers, with all the gerrymandering power that followed. The STIMULU$ abortion, self imposed, was the big beginning of the end. That, the lack of a healthcare PLAN, the FAILED roll-out, etc., cannot be blamed on the Coup mongers. Obama blew his chance to build a base.
 
 
+17 # Helga Fellay 2015-06-12 12:43
Re: "I think he feared them killing his regime more than killing him personally," - I am not so sure. And, although there is no way I can prove it, these frequent "security lapses" at the White House were probably not so subtle reminders to Obama of what could happen to him, as well as his family, should he decide to buck the Elite and not toe the line. I am thinking especially of the one where an armed intruder was able to cross the entire front lawn and enter Obama's quarters while the front door to the White House was conveniently left unlocked. It happened while the Obamas were not there, to be sure that it was not the real thing, just a warning that the real thing would be very easy to accomplish. Obama understood their language, I am sure.
 
 
+1 # lfeuille 2015-06-12 19:52
Quoting jpmarat:
There have been Secret Service (needs new name, culture) lapses under other Presidents. Obama came to office with a shallow surge of support among those who quickly go away. He had no real power base. He figured he could not take on National-Security-for-Profits, banksters, Big Energy, Big Pharmas, etc., etc. I think he feared them killing his regime more than killing him personally, giving Biden a surge. I think he did fear for the welfare of "his girls." When he, against top economics advise, aborted his own STIMULU$, he affixed the seal of doom. A crisis is a TERRIBLE thing to WASTE. He personally guaranteed a decisive 2010 victory for GOPers, with all the gerrymandering power that followed. The STIMULU$ abortion, self imposed, was the big beginning of the end. That, the lack of a healthcare PLAN, the FAILED roll-out, etc., cannot be blamed on the Coup mongers. Obama blew his chance to build a base.


I agree. I think he may have been able to prevent the tea party phenomenon entirely if he had stood strong. People really did want the "change" he touted in the campaign.
 
 
+29 # danireland46 2015-06-12 09:57
I've felt for some time that every new president is obligated to sit down with the heads of US security - MIC, CIA, NSA, Secret Service etc. Very little is said. A film is shown taken at the same time as the Zapruder film in Dallas over 50 years ago. It's production quality, and it shows JFK's assassination from a completely different place and angle.
NO ONE SHOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT WITH FEAR IN THEIR HEART!
 
 
+7 # A_Har 2015-06-12 10:12
Quoting danireland46:
I've felt for some time that every new president is obligated to sit down with the heads of US security - MIC, CIA, NSA, Secret Service etc. Very little is said. A film is shown taken at the same time as the Zapruder film in Dallas over 50 years ago. It's production quality, and it shows JFK's assassination from a completely different place and angle.
NO ONE SHOULD RUN FOR PRESIDENT WITH FEAR IN THEIR HEART!

Bill Hicks did a comedy routine on that a long time ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytv15ono5J0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZq6UOiBu_Y

It actually isn't "comedy". People laugh at comics because often they contain a very recognizable truth.
 
 
+5 # Radscal 2015-06-12 13:57
Thanks for finding those. The links I had to that brilliant Bill Hicks routine all went dead and I couldn't find it doing searches.

I suspect Bill Hicks' death at a young age from a fast-acting cancer was no "natural causes" either.
 
 
-2 # A_Har 2015-06-12 22:13
Quoting Radscal:
Thanks for finding those. The links I had to that brilliant Bill Hicks routine all went dead and I couldn't find it doing searches.

Actually, it is pretty easy to find videos on nearly *any topic* by going to YouTube and putting your search into the search field there. That is how I found the Bill Hicks videos in the first place, but it applies to almost any other search you might do.
 
 
+19 # reiverpacific 2015-06-12 10:30
Well, it might be interesting to witness, if he ever makes it that far, to see if Bernie Sanders knuckles under too.
"Lead me to the block, bear him my head. They smile at me who soon shall be dead".
 
 
+22 # A_Har 2015-06-12 10:40
Quoting reiverpacific:
Well, it might be interesting to witness, if he ever makes it that far, to see if Bernie Sanders knuckles under too.
"Lead me to the block, bear him my head. They smile at me who soon shall be dead".

Yes, I worry for anyone of principle who stands up to them. It is a very dangerous route to take.
 
 
+37 # jimmyjames 2015-06-12 10:39
Nor would I trust the Bill and Hillary Clinton. They sold their soul for power and wealth a long time ago. I remember clearly how Hillary was looking at a NY Senate run, but would have been strongly opposed by JFK Jr. Fortunately and conveniently for her, Kennedy's private plane mysteriously dropped out of the sky into the ocean and Hillary became a Senator. And do not forget Paul Wellstone suffered a similar fate due to his policies and capability to run for and become President.

The "shadow" government does not pull any punches. You either play the game according to their rules or your dead. Good luck, Bernie!!
 
 
+1 # ericlipps 2015-06-12 18:26
Quoting jimmyjames:
Nor would I trust the Bill and Hillary Clinton. They sold their soul for power and wealth a long time ago. I remember clearly how Hillary was looking at a NY Senate run, but would have been strongly opposed by JFK Jr. Fortunately and conveniently for her, Kennedy's private plane mysteriously dropped out of the sky into the ocean and Hillary became a Senator.

Oh, for God's sake. I suppose you think Bill Clinton--or maybe Hillary herself--ordere d JFK Jr.'s plan shot down.

That crash was tragic, but not mysterious. Wellstone's was a different matter, considering its timing--too close to the senatorial election for the Democrats to put up any but a token replacement. But that incident worked more to the advantage of the GOP that to that of the Clintons.

And if you think that the Clintons and the GOP are two of one and a pair of the other, you need to explain the visceral hatred--almost as strong as your own--that Republicans have shown toward them both.
 
 
+4 # lfeuille 2015-06-12 20:01
I do not believe that JFK Jr's death was a conspiracy, but the visceral hatred of the GOP for the Clinton's proves nothing. Some GOPers are so far to the right that they cannot tell the difference between a progressive and a centrist, and others are just pissed that they were able to triangulate their way to victory sometimes using their own talking points.
 
 
+4 # A_Har 2015-06-12 22:34
Quoting lfeuille:
I do not believe that JFK Jr's death was a conspiracy.....

Well, then, you need to read more. There are a lot of good books out there on it such as:

JFK and the Unspeakable
Why He Died and Why It Matters
http://www.amazon.com/JFK-Unspeakable-Why-Died-Matters/dp/1439193886/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1434169819&sr=8-1&keywords=JFK+the+unspeakable

Douglass, James W.
Book - 2008

Mary's Mosaic: The CIA Conspiracy to Murder John F. Kennedy, Mary Pinchot Meyer, and Their Vision for World Peace Paperback
http://www.amazon.com/Marys-Mosaic-Conspiracy-Kennedy-Pinchot/dp/1626361274/ref=sr_1_fkmr1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1434169910&sr=1-2-fkmr1&keywords=Mary+Pilchuck+and+JFK

– October 1, 2013
by Peter Janney (Author), Dick Russell (Foreword)

Then too there is the fact that the records have been sealed and were supposed to be open to examination years ago but now they are still not available. How come??

You need to also understand that we have a SHADOW GOVERNMENT that is outside of our view and *not accountable to the people or anyone.*
 
 
+6 # indian weaver 2015-06-13 05:55
Of course JFK was assassinated by the CIA, same as MLK. Here is the story of how the CIA murdered MLK, in detail, very interesting if you have the time to learn the truth: http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/275-42/16784-how-the-government-killed-martin-luther-king-jr.
 
 
0 # A_Har 2015-06-12 22:19
@ ericlipps.....Y our response is typical. It shows me yet again, you can't think outside of the box the DEMs build for partisans.

"And if you think that the Clintons and the GOP are two of one and a pair of the other, you need to explain the visceral hatred--almost as strong as your own--that Republicans have shown toward them both."

It is called COMPETITION--me aning who can become top dog in screwing ordinary people over. There are significant perks to the winners in that project. It is not that complicated. And the divide and conquer strategy works so very well. It certainly works with you.
 
 
+11 # randi1randi1@yahoo.com 2015-06-12 10:55
If the President has been threatened by the powers-that-be, why doesn't he hold a news conference and expose the whole thing? And it explains the Bush years, confirming that Cheney was the real power and Bush a figurehead. How much easier to think of Cheney pulling the strings amongst all those CIA and other National Security thugs. Kennedy was young, too, but he was no milquetoast. It explains why Oswald was allowed free reign after returning from the USSR, and why Osama bin Laden was ignored and the Twin Towers left vulnerable.
 
 
+17 # REDPILLED 2015-06-12 12:59
My guess is that sometime after this news conference, a very "unfortunate accident" would occur, killing Obama's wife and children. Read John Perkins' Confessions of An Economic Hit Man to see how anyone defying the U.S. Empire is dealt with.
 
 
+29 # jimmyjames 2015-06-12 10:56
"Sadly though, people who are poor and desperate are more easily controlled. However....thos e at the top do not seem to remember the French Revolution. If people lose too much, they "lose it."

Which is why "they" have figured out that they need to throw us a bone every once in awhile, less we get unruly. They have to keep the populace in the matrix so that we cannot see how we are getting screwed everyday.
 
 
+29 # REDPILLED 2015-06-12 13:02
It is also why NorthCom was created, why posse comitatus is extinct, why Fusion Centers have been set up, why local police have been militarized, and why even peaceful dissent such as the Occupy Movement is violently crushed by authoritarian state forces backed by Wall St.
 
 
+25 # ladypyrates 2015-06-12 10:59
Since the assassination of President Kennedy, one must accept the fact that the "engineers" of that treasonous act have not been just sitting on their hands and doing nothing. Their consolidation of power has been immense and the media has covered their tracks at every turn. In 1985, Leslie Armstrong served as the forewoman of the US District Court jury that concluded that the CIA had indeed killed President Kennedy.(80-112 1-Civ-JWK. E.Howard Hunt,plaintiff. )She said the evidence should be used by the appropriate US Government agencies to bring the assassins to justice...this has never been done let alone even attempted. The media spiked the story and kept the jury verdict from the American people. None-the-less there have been enough leaks about the verdict over the years that there should have been a public uprising and revolt against the CIA and their allies elsewhere in the government...bu t there wasn't. Apparently the American people have been so cowed that they will now accept any carefully nuanced acts of tyranny without question.
 
 
-13 # Anonymot 2015-06-12 11:00
I doubt that they used the Kennedy killings. I've said here before that all they needed was to show his "real" passport and his "real" Indonesian birth certificate. That issue didn't come out of the clear blue sky. It's the kind of concoction the CIA or a Clapper, Panneti or Bennet or etc. would dream up. And then he would be impeached, a disgraced to his pretty family, but even more a pariah to all African Americans and a guarantee that no black person would ever be allowed to run for President again.

Living with that would be worse than being killed.

And the CIA and Creeps, Inc. can manufacture anything. That's why they once loved Bin Laden and Khadafi and one Saddam Hussein. They are a bunch of paid killer thugs. Now who do you think their paymasters are?
 
 
+15 # A_Har 2015-06-12 11:52
Quoting Anonymot:
And the CIA and Creeps, Inc. can manufacture anything. That's why they once loved Bin Laden and Khadafi and one Saddam Hussein. They are a bunch of paid killer thugs. Now who do you think their paymasters are?

John Perkins called the government "A bigger better Mafia."

John Perkins - Hit Men, Jackals, and the Truth about Global Corruption
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p5pXqQEGM4

I think that is about right.
 
 
+7 # reiverpacific 2015-06-12 12:27
John Perkins - Hit Men, Jackals, and the Truth about Global Corruption
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6p5pXqQEGM4

I think that is about right.

“When they call the roll in the Senate, the Senators do not know whether to answer 'Present' or 'Not Guilty'.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
 
 
0 # CL38 2015-06-12 12:19
"Living with that would be worse than being killed."
says "Anonymot"
 
 
0 # Anonymot 2015-06-12 13:31
I suspect the negatives come from those who didn't read or didn't understand what I said.

I'm suggesting they didn't need the assasination threat, because they set up the birthplace issue. All they had to do after that was to produce the documents THEY manufactured and he would have been impeached for lying about his US birth. That would have disgraced everyone around him including all blacks.

If you like the death threat better the result is the same, but They would have had to reveal that THEY killed the Kennedys.
 
 
+7 # Merlin 2015-06-12 21:30
-2 # Anonymot 2015-06-12 13:31
"I suspect the negatives come from those who didn't read or didn't understand what I said."

I fully understood your idea. I simply disagree with it. In today’s political world, as opposed to, say 50 to 100 years ago, shame and disgrace holds no power, and creates no fear. Just look at all the politicians who have been caught with their pants down, (some literally,) and admit nothing, while continuing to reap the benefits. No, only the fear of death, which is the greatest fear of mankind, will work. (I will hypothesize that 75% of people seek religion, in the wish to have eternal life. They seriously fear death as the actual end of their lives.) Disgrace and shame only has an effect on truly good and/or spiritual people. Sociopaths and psychopaths are untouched by those things.
 
 
+18 # Saberoff 2015-06-12 11:30
"...if there were prosecutions for Bush-era crimes. The consensus was that “the CIA, NSA, and military would revolt.”

How about "Screw them!" The entire country had Obama's back. If we cannot do anything about the murdering thugs at a time like that, then when? The answer is: we can't!

"Accountability" (his word) was about the only thing I liked, and I would posture was one hell-of-a vote getter.

Fear. What's it good for?

How about this: To hell with the NSA, CIA and military! We sorely need to diminish all of them.
 
 
+8 # Robbee 2015-06-12 12:10
the problem with all of this hand-wringing is that a prez cannot govern effectively while oppressed by concerns over his, or his family's, personal safety

to the extent that the services need to be reshaped to protect a progressive, black prez, it's his job to reshape them, it's not his job to hide in an underground bunker until his presidency is over

he promised to fight for us, he asked us to have his back and to fight with him - we did, and, except for tpp, his mistake not ours, continue to fight for him

his job of fighting for us cannot end where he begins to fear for his or his family's personal safety, sorry - if he can't put fear aside, absolutely and totally, he can't fairly represent us, sorry - it was his job, it was his promise - to do otherwise is to break his deal with us

obama and mrs. are both lawyers - lawyers are professionally trained to take the emotional out of the equation - very few may be honest about this, but the tradition is that, like a clergy, they take their own personal needs out of the equation, they die to protect their client

it's obama's job to serve us, not his fears
 
 
+3 # Merlin 2015-06-12 16:29
Robbee 2015-06-12 12:10

"obama and mrs. are both lawyers - lawyers are professionally trained to take the emotional out of the equation - very few may be honest about this, but the tradition is that, like a clergy, they take their own personal needs out of the equation, they die to protect their client

it's obama's job to serve us, not his fears"

This is beautifully said! Thanks for stating this reality so clearly and concisely!

The great men have always understood this and acted this way.
 
 
+3 # indian weaver 2015-06-13 06:01
Great men, and women, are few and far between. Mostly they are now known as martyrs.
 
 
-1 # James Marcus 2015-06-12 12:32
He's too smart to think the Presidency is 'a Cakewalk.and way too convincing a Liar, REPEATEDLY!. I say he was a 'Willing Traitor', Trained Volunteer, and not merely 'informed afterwards' of the 'Rules of the Game'
The Presidency is a Bully Pulpit and, were he righteous , could have gathered all these 'Mafioso Bullies' and done them in, Publicly and Immediately (yes, slaughter the lot of them, including a Rockefeller, Rothschild, or Two). His lies continue, nearly consistently. A Complete Traitor, guilty of Crimes Against Humanity, as well as the US Constitution.
 
 
0 # Caliban 2015-06-14 22:36
James Marcus--

Are you saying that in your conception of morality a good President of the US must also be a political murderer? That seems an unusually bold stand, and I am sure I'm not the only reader who would appreciate a re-affirmation and even some further explanation.

Thanks...Caliban
 
 
+5 # CL38 2015-06-12 12:34
I've often wondered about the 'failures' in Obama's Secret Service security and the blatant racism meant to inflame the public toward the first black President by the United States Congress and Republicans.

"Shortly before his re-election in 2012, Obama reportedly was braced at a small dinner party by wealthy donors who wanted to know whatever happened to the ‘progressive Obama.’ The President did not take kindly to the criticism, rose from the table, and said, ‘Don’t you remember what happened to Dr. King?’”

For the best and most well-documented examination of the Kennedy assassination and coup d'é·tat:

" JFK and the Unspeakable: Why He Died and Why It Matters" by James W. Douglass (Orbis Books 2008).
 
 
+4 # Radscal 2015-06-12 14:53
Exactly. And JFK's genuinely heroic personality as exemplified in WW II combined with his personal reckless risk-taking as exemplified by his constant affairs may have been the keys that allowed him to take steps against the Finance/MIC Complex.
 
 
+14 # vt143 2015-06-12 12:41
So, the message to Bernie and anyone else who deviates too far from the "norm" is that if you get elected you'd better get your affairs in order. I think Paul Wellstone would tell us so. We live a charade of democracy. "Freedom" as long as one doesn't cross the line. The zoo animals who haven't seen the bars yet.
 
 
+9 # jdd 2015-06-12 13:14
It's not that President Obama has not done enough to promote peace, it's that he's has been and is an warmonger who has restarted the cold war with his obsession with Russia and its president, and has done everything possible to drive a confrontation with Russia. Unlike the situation during the Cuban missile crisis, this president has none of the leadership qualities that President Kennedy, and his brother Bobby, showed in averting a nuclear war. Then the Whitehouse had an open "hotline" to the Kremlin, whereas today Obama goes on one tirade after another, usually personal in nature, most recently at the G-7, where he insisted on keeping the sanctions in place and blamed the Minsk II violations solely on Russia, without any proof, and ignoring the fact that his State Dept. is seeking to arm and train Nazi militia and seems willing to support and follow the Poroshenko regime into war over a small part of a small country that most Americans still couldn't find on a map. Furthermore, Obama continues the march of NATO to Russia's doorstep and in proceeding with the placement of ABMs in Eastern Europe to counter the non-existent "Iranian nuclear missile threat" spurning Russia's attempts at joint placement.
 
 
+2 # Saberoff 2015-06-12 13:29
Thank you!

Which of his acquiesces does Obama think will result in his death? How much standing up for humanity will be his undoing?

That's the problem with fear. Imagination.
 
 
+6 # Seadog 2015-06-12 17:30
Obama as a coward. I don't buy this view. He was right of center the day he was elected. It was all of us that wanted to believe other wise. Hillary is even further to the right. Bernie is an old guy and I don't think he cares all that much if they kill him.
 
 
+11 # lorenbliss 2015-06-12 20:38
The mere fact we are having this discussion tells us the American experiment in representative democracy is as dead as John Fitzgerald Kennedy, the last president for whom it was more than a Big Lie.

Alas, that does not mean the Empire is dead. The Roman Republic fell in 27 BCE -- our equivalent date is 22 November 1963. But the Roman Empire ruled for another 1,480 years, until 476 CE in the West and until 1453 CE in Byzantium.

Based on that, the United States could tyrannize the world and its peoples until the year 3443.

But that will not happen, of course. The Romans were indeed merciless conquerors, but they sustained themselves by bringing useful knowledge and functional infrastructure that benefited entire peoples.

By contrast, the U.S. is an empire of venomous parasites. It brings to its conquests obscene wealth for its anointed vassals, abject poverty and enslavement for everyone else. And when the United States departs, it leaves behind a wasteland, its victims savaged beyond any possibility of healing, what remains of their environment poisoned beyond any possibility of repair.
 
 
-2 # jdd 2015-06-13 05:24
So now President Obama has finally revealed himself as a Republican. No wonder his administration has been such a disaster>
 
 
0 # indian weaver 2015-06-13 05:46
This is the article which describes how the CIA assassinated MLK, in detail: http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/275-42/16784-how-the-government-killed-martin-luther-king-jr. Similar details are not yet published for their assassinations of JFK and RFK yet, as far as I know.
 
 
0 # lorenbliss 2015-06-13 14:33
Link is no good -- error 404 -- which means the information has been disappeared by the secret police. (Happens often these days.)
 
 
+2 # futhark 2015-06-13 08:05
Hasn't Mr. Obama repeatedly basked in the glow of Dr. King's heritage and reputation and invoked his courage repeatedly, using it to gain public office? Weren't the vast majority of his supporters expecting that he would use that public office to move forward the agendas for peace and social justice advocated by Dr. King?

It appears that he has instead cynically exploited Dr. King's legacy to gain personal power. We can see how he has treated people like Edward Snowden and Chelsae Manning who have shown how true courage without expectation of personal self-aggrandize ment inevitably involves some sacrifice.
 
 
+3 # randrjwr 2015-06-13 10:40
Yes, we do have a "1.25 party" system, as someone said above, but, before we decide that the Dems are therefore not worth our vote, let us study carefully the long list of idiots that the GOP is fielding this time. The alternative to Obama in 2012 was Romney; ANY 3rd-party vote would have been, essentially, a vote for Romney (as all the votes for Nader in Florida--the only state where he made a difference, taking 7% of the vote, tragically--wer e essentially votes for Bush). In 2016, again any 3rd-party vote will benefit whoever wins the GOP race to the bottom. Thus, unless a miracle occurs, I will vote Democrat rather than for any among the current GOP contenders. Can ANYONE here name one that he/she would vote for over any Democrat? I am just praying that the Democrat I vote for will be Bernie.
 
 
0 # A_Har 2015-06-13 14:02
In my state which is solidly for the DEMs, it doesn't matter. Obummer won. Did I win relative to a guy who supports my interests?

Uh...NO.

And, both my senators voted for this TPP thing, so again....IT DOESN'T MATTER.
 
 
+5 # futhark 2015-06-13 18:46
My state was also polling very strongly for Obama. However, knowing what I did about his duplicity in first publicly opposing, then voting in favor of the 2008 Amendments to the 1978 Foreign Surveillance Security Act, revealing himself to be a servant of the corporate interests and state surveillance apparatus, I was happy to vote for Jill Stein. I would have been even happier if she had won. I used to be attached to Democratic candidates until cynics like Bill Clinton, Dianne Feinstein, and Barack Obama showed me that to continue my unqualified support was a waste of my precious vote.
 
 
+2 # A_Har 2015-06-13 19:07
I voted for her too. I decided I wanted to vote for someone for a change instead of voting for the lesser of two evils.

In 2008, I wrote in who I wanted to vote for--they were not on the ballot.
 
 
0 # Caliban 2015-06-14 22:52
randrjwr--Thank s for the thoughtful advice. I hope of our more nihilistic posters spend some time actually trying to decide which GOP moron they prefer to Sanders, Warren, or Malone or their Democratic kin. Maybe some practical analysis will help them return to reason.
 
 
0 # Phillybuster 2015-06-13 16:12
Living in Texas, my vote is meaningless at the national and state level - the Rs have those locked up. You hear a lot of talk about Texas turning blue because of the rise in the minority population. Well, as Enrico Fermi said about ETs, "Where are they?"

With many of the minority I talk to in Texas, I will hear the same talking points I'd expect from a tea partier.

JFK, RFK and MLK were fatalists who knew that life could end at any moment. They were idealistic, forward-looking men who knew, "I might not get there with you".

I don't believe Obama operates out of fear but rather lack of faith in others. He does not believe that a leader can get more out of people by asking them to do what they think they cannot. A leader must ask his people to do the impossible before they will do even what IS possible.
 
 
+3 # bsimpich 2015-06-13 17:44
Here's the MLK article Indian Weaver referred to - Carl Gibson did a good job on this story.

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/275-42/16784-how-the-government-killed-martin-luther-king-jr

The more I think about, I think Obama is the ultimate pragmatist - he probably says to himself "this is as much as I can get done. If I cross this line, my family is in danger. That's the way the world has always been."

That's the only way I can interpret his statement to Ray McGovern's friends. We need a fighting man or woman in the White House next time.
 
 
+3 # Walter J Smith 2015-06-13 20:02
This is characteristic of Obama's grandiose over stretch on his own character: "The President did not take kindly to the criticism, rose from the table, and said, ‘Don’t you remember what happened to Dr. King?’”

I hope someone told Obama he would not amount to one of Dr. King's smallest dingle berries.
 
 
-1 # Caliban 2015-06-15 13:52
It would be more accurate to say that Walter J Smith "would not amount to one of Dr. King's smallest dingle berries".
 
 
+3 # bsimpich 2015-06-14 15:41
What I don't understand is why no one is upset at the Secret Service?? Their conduct impacts the entire tone of the presidential race.
 
 
-1 # A_Har 2015-06-14 15:52
News flash....SH!T they PASSED fast track for the TPP!!!

House passes Obama’s ‘fast-track’ authority to negotiate trade deal
http://pushback.us/house-passes-obamas-fast-track-authority-to-negotiate-trade-deal/

By RT on June 12, 2015

"President Barack Obama has succeeded in obtaining controversial “fast-track” approval for his Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) trade deal in the House of Representatives .

The Trade Promotion Authority (TPA), as the “fast-track” powers are officially called, passed by a vote of 219-211, giving President Obama an unlikely victory. In a preceding vote, the House struck down a proposal to extend the Trade Adjustment Assistance (TAA) program, providing assistance to workers who would lose jobs as a consequence of trade deals.

Update: House will RECONSIDER TAA next week. The TPA vote that just happened counts IF TAA passes. Up to WH to twist arms.

— Pete Schroeder (@peteschroeder ) June 12, 2015

With both the Senate and the House adopting “fast-track” authorization, Congress will only be able to vote on the finalized agreement, without the opportunity to offer amendments."

May the deity help us--WE ARE SO SCREWED!!
 
 
+1 # NAVYVET 2015-06-15 21:29
Thought provoking article. I'm sure a lot of us have considered possible threats. I vividly remember JFK's assassination. I was a Naval officer on the staff of the Naval War College. Having been raised in the South, I thought then (still think) it was a right-wing plot and that--for all we know--Oswald may have been a US spy in the USSR and was murdered before he could squeal. In 68, when MLK and RFK were killed, I was still a Naval officer, but awaiting discharge. I loathed the Vietnam War and submitted a resignation letter early in 68, but they locked us all in like "The Prisoner" until December. I mourned MLK but had no great love for either JFK or hrother Bobby, the latter because I was a teen during the McCarthy witch hunts in the public schools, when RFK was a young lawyer with Joe's team.

JFK's public image was as a Cold War Dem. I believed it and deplored it, andI planned not to vote for him again. I attributed much of my dislike to his youth and inexperience--t he same reason Obama came in about 5th among the Dem possibilities in 2007-early 2008--too young, not experienced, and (maybe worst) from CHICAGO, where I'd spent early childhood and learned not to trust Chicago Democrat pols. In 2008 he talked the talk and I worked hard for him--but he didn't walk the walk. I didn't lift a finger in 2012, although he got my vote, very reluctantly.

I have heard, or read, that his children have been threatened. It's seemed to me that it could explain a lot.
 

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