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Krugman writes: "Mr. Gross's fall is a symptom of a malady that continues to afflict major decision-makers, public and private. Call it depression denial syndrome: the refusal to acknowledge that the rules are different in a persistently depressed economy."

Paul Krugman. (photo: NYT)
Paul Krugman. (photo: NYT)


Depression Denial Syndrome

By Paul Krugman, The New York Times

04 October 14

ast week, Bill Gross, the so-called bond king, abruptly left Pimco, the investment firm he had managed for decades. People who follow the financial industry were shocked but not exactly surprised; tales of internal troubles at Pimco had been all over the papers. But why should you care?

The answer is that Mr. Gross�s fall is a symptom of a malady that continues to afflict major decision-makers, public and private. Call it depression denial syndrome: the refusal to acknowledge that the rules are different in a persistently depressed economy.

Mr. Gross is, by all accounts, a man with a towering ego and very difficult to work with. That description, however, fits a lot of financial players, and even the most lurid personality conflicts wouldn�t have mattered if Pimco had continued to do well. But it didn�t, largely thanks to a spectacularly bad call Mr. Gross made in 2011, which continues to haunt the firm. And here�s the thing: Lots of other influential people made the same bad call � and are still making it, over and over again.

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+51 # maddave 2011-10-19 21:36
Obscene!

Goldman Sachs needs to be Nationalized and broken up.
 
 
+23 # AndreM5 2011-10-20 09:05
Goldman/Sachs ALREADY IS nationalized in one sense: it owns Congress so it completely runs monetary and financial policy.
 
 
+6 # robertsgt40 2011-10-21 08:10
Broken up...then prosecuted...th en get our money back
 
 
+21 # pernsey 2011-10-19 21:53
OMG!!! This is beyond obscene!!!!
 
 
+20 # DPM 2011-10-19 22:18
At least, in the Mafia, there was something of a "code" of loyalty. Otherwise, what's the difference?
 
 
+16 # krispykremeyum 2011-10-20 08:41
Yep...I respect the mafia more...at least they're up front about their intentions.
 
 
+23 # tsubow 2011-10-19 23:28
How many millions, billions,plus stock options does it take for one person to feel secure enough to say, "I have enough money and security?"
 
 
+4 # maddave 2011-10-21 07:08
There is no "enough". Money is an abstract concept by which ego-driven corporations and management keep score.
 
 
+27 # tomo 2011-10-20 00:00
Yesterday, I watched Timothy Geithner being grilled by what I take to have been the Senate Small Business Committee. First, Republican Olympia Snowe asked why the Secretary had done nothing about jobs. Geithner replied that he's very interested in jobs, but there is a lack of "demand" out there--but that if ever the time was ripe for jobs, he would certainly do a great deal. Then Democrat Maria Cantwell asked Geithner why it had taken a few days to bail out the major banks, but it has not been possible in nearly three years to provide much help to ordinary Americans. Geithner assured her he is very interested in ordinary Americans, but there is a lack of "demand" out there--but that he would certainly do a great deal for ordinary Americans when the opportunity presented itself. In short, Geithner was saying that, while it had been possible to bail out the banks by some very steep interventions in the free market, nothing similar could be done for ordinary Americans.
In short, the Treasury helps its friends, but only the "invisible hand" can help the rest of us. At that moment I realized Obama will probably be re-elected. Nobody has in our whole history helped CEO's more than he has. And Geithner, for all his apparent ineptitude, has actually done exactly what he and Obama have meant to do. Poor America!
 
 
+9 # pres 2011-10-20 00:23
Gee don't be so hard on them!
They are just living the American Dream -and somebody has to pay for it. :-)
 
 
+8 # Rita Walpole Ague 2011-10-20 01:15
Evil! G.S. and the other 1% Wall Street and military/indust rial/terrorism complex villainaires need any and all who worship and love a man/God named Jesus, to follow their Savior's example and boot the money grabbers out of temple. How best to boot out?

Maddave is right on! Boot 'em via Nationalizing and breading up.
 
 
+22 # Ralph Averill 2011-10-20 02:27
What's more maddening, Goldman-Sachs compensation is chicken feed compared to hedge fund salaries and bonuses, which can go to eight, nine, and, in the case of whatsisname Paulsen, ten figures. Over a billion dollars for creating nothing! Nobody is worth that kind of money. Not financiers, not CEO's, not athletes, or movie stars, or rock stars and we should have a tax system that prevents that kind of power in the hands of so few individuals.
 
 
+24 # JohnRussell2012 2011-10-20 04:54
WE MUST have a 21st Century revised edition of Glass-Steagel! BAN outright the programmed algorithm "skimming" /trading that Goldman et al do every day that merely commits thievery from the retail investor.

We MUST put in place a 0.05% transaction tax on ALL equity trades which would really put the brakes on the "skimming" thusly described. Elliott Spitzer confirmed what I have contended for years that about HALF of ALL daily trades taking place in the markets are of this sort.

Such shenanigans increases both volatility and risk, in particular for the retail investor who is not engaged in this practice which is exclusive to the Wall Street "set-up."
John Russell, Dade City, Fl
 
 
+30 # artful 2011-10-20 06:51
The SOB's should be in prison cells.
 
 
+17 # walt 2011-10-20 06:56
This is incredible to see these crooks hoarding the peoples' money for themselves. Bonuses are their priority as they continue to siphon off what they can. And when will we stop bringing Wall Streeters, especially from Goldman-Sachs, into the government and Cabinet. Bush's Sec. of the Treasury Paulsen was one and was on duty for the collapse. He's worth something like $700 million! When will we wake up and demand action? We are all angered as the NYPD arrests innocent protesters while these crooks go about their "business."
Occupy Wall Street and demand prosecutions!
 
 
+15 # MainStreetMentor 2011-10-20 07:58
 
 
+3 # usedtobesupermom 2011-10-20 10:12
Good idea! May I share your comment?
 
 
+1 # MainStreetMentor 2011-10-20 14:10
Absolutely!
 
 
+6 # MainStreetMentor 2011-10-20 08:13
 
 
0 # Martintfre 2011-10-20 08:25
Duh.

Ofcourse the execs stay fat and happy - their campaign contributions to Obama are investments that are paying off.

The bailouts that Senator Obama votes for, the TARP bills President Obama voted for.

The watering down of the AUDIT THE FED bill the democrats did...
no one should be surprised that FASCISM is live and well

Obama is the biggest corporate whore the world has ever seen
 
 
+8 # jwb110 2011-10-20 09:51
I think it is safe to say that the GOP/TP and Corporate America are moving us more and more to a Fascist System. Not all the boys at the top are safe from reprisals should this happen. The kind of hate and fear mongering that it takes to move a country to Fascism is going to move from scapegoat to scapegoat in order to harness a base. For the Conservative Christians the Pink Triangle is the call to arms. Once that reaches its' Final Solution what symbol and color comes next?
 
 
-1 # Martintfre 2011-10-20 12:28
//I think it is safe to say that the GOP/TP and Corporate America are moving us more and more to a Fascist System. //

Then you think wrongly.

As a Tea Party member I know for a fact that the government bail outs are unconstitutiona l and yes it is fascism and I an other TP members are opposed because companies do not have a right to funds extorted from the tax payers given to them by low politicians in high places.

As a citizen and as a tax payer It matters not if it was Bush or Obama who give away our money, it is wrong.
 
 
+5 # fredboy 2011-10-20 09:57
And derivatives continue as the nation's new alchemy...
 
 
+5 # Doubter 2011-10-20 10:22
Makes me wish I believed in Hell!
 
 
+3 # reiverpacific 2011-10-20 10:47
I may be naive but I wonder if these "Suits' are really happy?
They really aren't free people (I've known some in the corporate high-paid category described here) and they seem to me to be trapped in a system which doesn't allow them to be whatever they really might be. They wear a stylish uniform, behave in a proscribed way and follow orders just as sure as the military, and as likely as not live in gated non-communities.
They isolate themselves from any but their own corporate reality and all their material acquisitions seem to bring them little joy, as spoiled kids who take their "toys" for granted.
Sure, I am one of the "New Poor" but I do what I love for what little I make, have pride in my productivity and unique creativity and try to be a contributing part of my community, sharing the struggle for survival and even a little growth.
They may look down from on high from their architecturally appalling and space-gobbling glass towers, at the OWS masses but I wonder if there isn't just a trace of envy in what they see; fellowship, mutual aid and support forming an irresistible force, growing and shaking their very foundations?
"Ah make the most of what we yet may spend,
Before we too into the dust descend,
Dust into Dust and under Dust to lie,
Sans Wine, sans Song, sans Singer, and -sans End!
Omar Kayyam.
 
 
+3 # Activista 2011-10-20 11:55
I agree - these people are NOT free - not happy. All they know is Money Culture.
People genes/nature is very different - read work of E. J. Wilson.
 
 
+4 # Miguel Grande 2011-10-21 07:43
In 1892 the Banksters put their plan to paper,

http://www.heyokamagazine.com/heyoka_magazine.27.bankersmanifesto.htm

99%
TOO BIG TO FAIL!!
 

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