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Greenwald writes: "The utter lack of interest in what possible legal authority Obama has to bomb Syria is telling indeed: Empires bomb who they want, when they want, for whatever reason."

President Barack Obama accepts the Nobel Peace Prize. (photo: AP)
President Barack Obama accepts the Nobel Peace Prize. (photo: AP)


Syria Becomes the 7th Predominantly Muslim Country Bombed by 2009 Nobel Peace Laureate

By Glenn Greenwald, The Intercept

23 September 14

 

he U.S. today began bombing targets inside Syria, in concert with its lovely and inspiring group of five allied regimes: Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, and Jordan.

That means that Syria becomes the 7th predominantly Muslim country bombed by 2009 Nobel Peace Laureate Barack Obama—after Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya and Iraq.

The utter lack of interest in what possible legal authority Obama has to bomb Syria is telling indeed: Empires bomb who they want, when they want, for whatever reason (indeed, recall that Obama bombed Libya even after Congress explicitly voted against authorization to use force, and very few people seemed to mind that abject act of lawlessness; constitutional constraints are not for warriors and emperors).

It was just over a year ago that Obama officials were insisting that bombing and attacking Assad was a moral and strategic imperative. Instead, Obama is now bombing Assad’s enemies while politely informing his regime of its targets in advance. It seems irrelevant on whom the U.S. wages war; what matters it that it be at war, always and forever.

Six weeks of bombing hasn’t budged ISIS in Iraq, but it has caused ISIS recruitment to soar. That’s all predictable: the U.S. has known for years that what fuels and strengthens anti-American sentiment (and thus anti-American extremism) is exactly what they keep doing: aggression in that region. If you know that, then they know that. At this point, it’s more rational to say they do all of this not despite triggering those outcomes, but because of it. Continuously creating and strengthening enemies is a feature, not a bug. It is what justifies the ongoing greasing of the profitable and power-vesting machine of Endless War.

If there is anyone who actually believes that the point of all of this is a moral crusade to vanquish the evil-doers of ISIS (as the U.S. fights alongside its close Saudi friends), please read Professor As’ad AbuKhalil’s explanation today of how Syria is a multi-tiered proxy war. As the disastrous Libya “intervention” should conclusively and permanently demonstrate, the U.S. does not bomb countries for humanitarian objectives. Humanitarianism is the pretense, not the purpose.

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+61 # RMDC 2014-09-23 13:47
Right on, Glenn. Nobel Peace Prize winner, indeed. The final assault on Syria has begun. In a short time, Syria will look just like Libya, Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, South Sudan, Yemen, and a lot more places where the US bombed to bring "freedom" or some other bullshit humanitarian crap to the people.

Obama will go down in history right beside Bush and the rest of the war monger US presidents. Let's hope he is arrested and put on trial for war crimes.
 
 
+42 # madams12 2014-09-23 17:24
Thanks RMDC...well said....and no American should forget that during the 2008 presidential candidate discussions...( Gen retired) Wesley Clark presented that list of countries to be hit...after a Pentagon contact of his, alarmed at the news, revealed to Clark just 2 weeks after 9/11/01 that the Bush/cheney regime had decided to invade Iraq. Then a few months later when they re-met at Pentagon Clark's friend explained that it was worse than Iraq...there were 7 countries planned to be bombed in 5 years. The Neocons/PNAC hopes for a "new Pearl Harbor" had been realized and the full YINON plan or what they called Project for a New American Century was going into full swing. Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria and Lebanon were on their hit list. It's as clear and plain as the words that were written in the Yinon plan in 1982. Look it up.
 
 
+28 # Nominae 2014-09-23 18:30
Quoting madams12:
.... The Neocons/PNAC hopes for a "new Pearl Harbor" had been realized and the full YINON plan or what they called Project for a New American Century was going into full swing. Iraq, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Yemen, Syria and Lebanon were on their hit list. .....


Absolute fact, and I fully appreciate your valuable reminder of this to readers, including myself.

It is a truth so well documented that it is astonishing to consider how few folks seem actually to be aware of it.

People go along thinking that "votes" have anything whatsoever to do with Foreign Affairs (or even most domestic affairs), that people need the occasional "ice-bucket" waker-upper that you have so accurately outline above.

As the CIA, NSA, FBI, DHS etc. will note in private: Politicians (Administration s) come and go, but the work of International Intelligence must go on unabated in a consistent and continuous manner that over-arches and supersedes the laws and "interference" from mere politicians.

Thank you for repeating the much needed wake up call.
 
 
+13 # futhark 2014-09-23 21:53
The "New Pearl Harbor" was not luck for the PNAC Neocons. They planned and executed it, possibly a little hastily, given the amount of loose ends left hanging out of the operation,showi ng it was an inside job. However, that was countered by a masterful propaganda campaign to stigmatize skeptics as "Truthers", i.e. crazy people and/or traitors, in the Orwellian Newspeak they promoted when individual private investigators began to follow up those loose ends,demonstrat ing the implausibility of the flim-flam 19-Islamic-radi cals-with-boxcu tters hypothesis.
 
 
+5 # think4once 2014-09-24 15:15
Nominae,,, you said what I wanted to say!
 
 
+7 # RMDC 2014-09-24 06:42
Yep -- Obama is carrying on the neo-con mandate right to the letter. GW Bush could not have done it any better. It all goes back to the mid-90s when Netanyahoo and the neo-cons wrote a series of policy papers for the "new middle east." They called for destroying all of the Muslim nations, breaking them into smaller nations that could be controlled by the US and Israel. The most important paper was "The Clean Break." It argued for a clean break with the past policy of trying to make peace with Arabs. Instead, there would be no peace for Arabs, only endless war and destruction until small states run by gangsters and tribal thugs ruled everyone.
 
 
+2 # beeyl 2014-09-26 06:20
"Obama is carrying on the neo-con mandate right to the letter. GW Bush could not have done it any better."

In fact, Bush couldn't have done it half as well. What was needed after Bush was a Democrat who talks like a liberal but acts like a neocon. Tribalism means most Dems will support this guy - and the same behaviors they protested under Bush - because of the D after his name, and most Repubs will support him (or at least his actions) because it would help prove Bush was right, and they innately like to "solve" problems by blame and bomb.

My bet is that, if it could happen, leaders of both parties in Washington would love to have Obama stay president for 4 or even 8 more years after 2016. Fortunately, they don't need a Constitutional Amendment to get that: there are lots of Blue Dog Neocon DINOs around, and one of them (HRC) is the current favorite to succeed Obama.

Can anyone else feel the insatiable drool of the Military Industrial Complex on their necks?
 
 
+40 # REDPILLED 2014-09-23 18:26
"If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war [WW II] American president would have been hanged." - Noam Chomsky
 
 
-2 # tonywicher 2014-09-23 23:14
Don't just hope, call your congressman, Democratic or Republican, and demand impeachment of Obama and his whole warmonger administration!
 
 
+7 # wantrealdemocracy 2014-09-24 09:06
Fat lot of good that will be. Don't you know the level of corruption in Congress? Demand that these immoral and unethical people do what the people want? Yeah right. We must demand impeachment of the whole warmongering administration and apply the Nuremberg laws to get these evil people imprisoned or executed. We must rise up in rebellion and change our government---an d time is running out. The greed for fossil fuel profits is endangering the ability of Earth to support life. Get out and walk or take public transport and stop voting for either the Democrats or their evil twin the Republicans.
 
 
+7 # Small Family Farmer 2014-09-24 10:26
Great political cartoon:

A couple of Swedish looking people at the door of the White House. Michelle has opened the door and her voice bubble says, "Barack, it's some people from Sweden. They say they've come to take back your peace prize."
 
 
+2 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2014-09-25 15:05
Add another horrible ingredient. The use of D U? If it is used (and it is not just home to a rifle) we have yet started another war crime.
 
 
+28 # John S. Browne 2014-09-23 14:07
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The utter lack of interest in what possible legal authority Obama has to bomb Syria is telling indeed: Empires bomb who they want, when they want, for whatever reason (indeed, recall that Obama bombed Libya even after Congress explicitly voted against authorization to use force, and very few people seemed to mind that abject act of lawlessness; constitutional constraints are not for warriors and emperors).
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That one act of unconstitutiona l lawlessness of going against Congress and bombing Libya anyway, was more than enough legal grounds for seeking the impeachment of "Odrona", a traitor to the Constitution; and, under constitutional impeachment law, it was an OBLIGATION of Congress to seek that impeachment because of the "high crime" that it was against the Constitution, against Congress, and against the People of the United States.

Yep, the U.S. government, particularly the presidency, doesn't care if it causes recruitment of terrorists to soar; in fact, they purposely cause it in order, as Glenn Greenwald so astutely alludes to in the above article, to create more enemies to keep the endless war OF terrorism, the U.S. government, et alii's terrorism, going. The more enemies, and the more targets for drone and bombing attacks, the better, because it keeps the pretext(s), rationalization s, "justifications ", "legitimization s", "excuses", "pretense(s)", and "evidence" to coerce Congress and the "Amerikan" people to support it, going for doing so.

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+27 # randi1randi1@yahoo.com 2014-09-23 16:26
Has any American regime attacked more countries than the Obama administration? Has any winner of a Nobel Peace prize commited more acts of aggression than the 2009 recipient? Isn't he ashamed to keep it? Can he embarrass and dishonor himself, his family, and his country, any more than he already has?
 
 
+11 # futhark 2014-09-23 21:56
He knows who his real bosses are and is doing everything in his power to please them. Weapons manufacturers will get fat on profits, the state surveillance apparatus will expand, creating more promotional opportunities, as military action always does for those sitting behind desks away from the battle zone.
 
 
+4 # wantrealdemocracy 2014-09-24 09:09
Yes, he can and he will.
 
 
+4 # Kev C 2014-09-24 14:53
I honestly think he is so naive as to think he is doing nothing wrong. Oh wait a minute. That is the behaviour of a psychopath.
When he hit Libya he claimed that they did not invade. Well what were they doing in Libyan airspace if that wasn't invading? Likewise they are invading Syrian airspace for the same damned reasons. He is determined to trash the middle east and leave it in such a mess the people will sell their souls for a moments peace. Hence the oil will flow to the US of A and the world will bow its head in supplication to the monster bully in the Whitehouse.
What a sad world we live in.
 
 
+2 # ritawalpoleague 2014-09-25 11:18
arnki1@yaho.com: I just reported to RSN administrator that when adding a thumbs up to your comment, suddenly all your '+'s' disappeared. Perhaps RSN will investigate and correct such things.

Rita Walpole Ague
 
 
+17 # dyannne 2014-09-23 18:04
We have fallen into the rabbit hole. Unfortunately, there may be no way out.
 
 
+39 # phrixus 2014-09-23 18:11
"Endless War" So true, and so sickening.

I cannot be any more ashamed of and disgusted by the US Government than I am right now.

The Congress, Executive and SCOTUS. I don't know what they are but they certainly aren't patriotic Americans. They have morphed into something I cannot even identify. But I can accurately say they are well on their way to destroying the Republic. I have little hope for the future of the USA.
 
 
+12 # futhark 2014-09-23 22:01
Stop supporting and voting for Democrats who are demonstrably insincere about the campaign appeals they make for those interested in peace and justice. Democrats worked in conjunction with the Republicans in the last presidential campaign to exclude nominees of the Green and Libertarian Parties from the presidential debates. The way forward is flip off the war Democrats and start supporting parties and politicians with the same ideals as you have.
 
 
+35 # tedrey 2014-09-23 18:30
One difficulty is that both the Republican AND the Democratic Parties, AND the military AND the manufacturing industries are crammed with morally bankrupt people just itching to personally profit from the next wave of war crimes.
 
 
+22 # Anarchist 23 2014-09-23 18:43
Really, the plans are working splendidly...pe rmanent war enriches the few, kills the many and impoverishes the citizens of all those countries as well as the aggressor country's own population. It's all in 'Report From Iron Mountain' Or '1984'...NOT the books I wanted to live in!
 
 
+14 # riverhouse 2014-09-23 19:09
I have no idea why any sane person would wish to be president. You have to know that no one who runs for president is anyone who should be President of the United States of America. Obama started his presidency with such promise and such hope for humanity. He's done some admirable things domestically. He's brought us back from the brink of the looming Republican great depression, grown jobs, done a lot of good in providing health care to the uninsured. But when it comes to the world, I truly believe it is out of the hands of a president. With this bagger Congress no president can truly rule foreign policy. The zionists have us fighting and paying for their wars. The corruption reigns supreme in the US Congress. It seems hopeless.
 
 
+10 # futhark 2014-09-23 22:07
As stated above, I believe Mr. Obama is entirely responsible for his foreign policy actions and quite happy with them. The people who supported his meteoric rise to the presidency through behind the scenes promotion are no doubt well satisfied with his performance as well. He can look forward to a secure future as a reward for what he has done. No one forced him to become a candidate. He saw the opportunity and made the Faustian bargain himself.
 
 
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+5 # MidwesTom 2014-09-23 20:07
We have been taught as a nation that materialism is where it is at, the more you have, the better person you are. The entire country has accepted this philosophy with few exceptions. We are taught it by continuous advertising.

In order to fulfill our materialistic desires we must have more and more wealth; the new iPhone, 2 cars, a giant TV, two closets full of clothes. In order to maintain a material living standard higher than the rest of the world we have created a nation that spends far more than it takes in. In a peaceful world we would go bankrupt, and all have much less. However, by having the largest Military we can simply print as much money as we want and need.

When threats to that military and or the position of dollar in the world are threatened our ONLY recourse is war. We probably have no gold, and the countries that do are pushing for a new worldwide gold backed currency to replace the dollar. In an attempt to negate this rising pressure on the dollar, in the near future we will be replacing Federal Reserve Notes, with US Treasury Notes, backed not by gold, but a basket of stuff including oil, grains, etc. (stuff we have). Will this save us? Only time will tell. But a big war is a sure fire way to 'save' us, no matter how many US soldiers it costs.

I do not like it, but I feel that this is the box we are in.
 
 
0 # John S. Browne 2014-09-24 06:02
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No, we'll be going to a cashless society, which will be made global as well, as part of world gov- ernment (enslavement). Then the "Mark of the Beast" will be brought in; where, if you don't completely, irredeemably sell your soul to evil, your "Mark", your implanted RFID chip, will be shut off, and you won't have any finances or any way to survive. Even many people who don't believe in Christianity, believe that the Mark of the Beast is coming. They can see the writing on the wall. The whole credit system is clearly setup leading to that. So, not only are the "haves" (the people who have the "requisite" things, possessions, baubles, "success") the only ones who are "anything", and the "have nots" people who are "nothing", already people who don't have excellent credit and live beyond their means, are also considered to be "nobodies", "flakes", "losers", etc. Thus, when the "Mark" comes, all those who don't blindly, willingly sell their souls to evil will be considered to be the "traitors", "terrorists", "evil people", etc., and will be quickly locked up and exterminated. This is one of the primary reasons why a national I.D. is being instituted in the U.S.; and all those who don't accept it will be criminalized and dealt with. We already have an international I.D., the global passport system. None of this is any accident or coincidence. All of it has long been setup in preparation for the enslavement of the U.S. and the entire world; and the PTB won't accept less.

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+2 # Activista 2014-09-24 11:51
Yes - we bought consumerism - any sane person see that this Money Society can not be sustained economically or environmentally - catastrophe is coming - hope that this is not nuclear war - but I am not optimistic with Israel -
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+6 # Archie1954 2014-09-23 20:50
Don't you remember, empires make their own reality, or so said one of Obama's warmongering neocon friends?
 
 
+6 # RMDC 2014-09-24 19:08
It was Karl Rove who said that but he was paraphrasing Edward Bernays, the father of pubic relations or propaganda. Bernays said the essence of propaganda is to create reality
 
 
+1 # FDRva 2014-09-23 21:12
Let’s de-escalate this fast.

Just identify British intelligence–an d their ladies auxiliary– the Saudis associated with Prince Bandar– as the parents of ISIS. And AlQaeda, etc.

If President Obama has the testicular fortitude to do that–he will have earned the Nobel Prize he got for being Black and popular in Europe–before he had served a day as President.

If the President lacks that testicular fortitude –then the image of W Bush-in Black-face a la Al Jolson comes to mind.
 
 
0 # FDRva 2014-09-23 21:35
Jim Carville had a memorable quote on the subject of political testicles in 2008.

Unless the President wants to hear that quote for the rest of his life, he would be well-advised to tell the Brits and Saudis where they can stick their ISIS op.
 
 
+3 # FDRva 2014-09-23 21:46
As I am sure Liz Warren can explain to the President, there are many financial measures the US can take to punish the British & Saudi financial/intel ligence networks behind the emergence of ISIS.

That works a lot better than bombing Syria.

Break profile, Barry Obama, just this once.
 
 
+1 # FDRva 2014-09-23 22:10
For old time Dem activist Chicago politics sake, Barry owes me one.

Tell the Brits and Saudis where to go--and arrest a couple of them for their terrorist involvements.

It sure beats starting a world war--legacy-wis e.

The Russians are not morons.

They know the British/Saudi role from 9-11 through Chechnya's terrorism.

God Bless the President of the United States of America.
 
 
0 # keenon the truth 2014-09-24 00:18
It's all Britain's fault?
 
 
+7 # Saberoff 2014-09-23 21:12
I love it when someone (Greenwald here) makes a great point so succinctly, in just six short paragraphs.
It's so true! Now what are we to do about it?
 
 
+6 # FDRva 2014-09-23 22:35
For those unfamiliar with the President's meteoric rise to power, he was commonly known as Barry Obama in Chicago--before he was suddenly proclaimed to be 'presidential timber' about a decade ago.

Then he became 'Barack' Wall Street's favorite Black man--with campaign funding to match.

The rest, as they say, is history.
 
 
+4 # FDRva 2014-09-23 23:15
Forgive me if I doubt Hillary Rodham Clinton is Wall Street's candidate in 2016.

Wall Street chose Obama in 2008 over Clinton--in a Democratic year.

There is a reason Wall Street was in Obama's corner in 2008--they got their money's worth--and it ought to concern Democrats going into 2016.
 
 
-2 # OTOHIMHO 2014-09-25 11:46
I think she has seen the error of her ways and is prepared to dociley take the bit in her teeth
 
 
+5 # walt 2014-09-24 05:48
This all proves two main points. First, Obama has been nothing more than a smooth talking politician groomed by his party to win the White House in 2008. Second, he and all other candidates are servants of the neocon lobby that funds their elections and keeps us in permanent wars in the Middle East.
The real power in the US may actually be Benjamin Netanyahu, not Obama.

Without a doubt, the prestige of the Nobel Peace Prize was badly tarnished when it was given to Obama.
 
 
+6 # Sweet Pea 2014-09-24 07:37
All of this kind of talk only leads me to believe that we are reaching a point of becoming an oligarchy. We bomb countries to protect the investments of the wealthy and claim that it is some kind of humanitarian cause. Tell that to the parents who have lost a child in the bombing.
 
 
+3 # Anonymot 2014-09-24 08:27
May I suggest that you (and EVERYONE in the USofA) read DEFYING HITLER, a memoir by Sebastian Haffner.It tells you brilliantly how 60 Million people were turned and it's startlingly like here and now.

Has the Nobel Committee ever taken back a Prize?
 
 
+4 # Milarepa 2014-09-24 08:36
Look, it doesn't matter who is POTUS. In that job anybody has to play ball with the big money boys and the Pentagon. So, yeah, Mr. Obama is doing it but it's not because he's especially evil or especially good but because those are the rules. He's playing by the big money rules that rule the world. That is truly a never-ending situation. When Wall Street and the Pentagon stand under five feet of water they'll still be working up on the first floor and take the boat shuttle home instead of the subway or the car. The future is simple. You ain't seen nuthin yet!
 
 
+6 # Aaron Tovish 2014-09-24 09:08
Has anyone taken note that Yemen has just collapsed (further) into chaos? Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Libya and Iraq, Syria, all of them are already or fast becoming failed states.
 
 
0 # Dr. Amy L. Beam 2014-09-25 00:07
There are 27,000 Yezidi refugees from Shengal now in refugee locations in Turkey. Last weekend over 400,000 Syrian Kurds fled over the border to Turkey. These people left everything behind and went with the clothes on their backs. ISIS is indeed moving through the area killing, kidnapping, raping, and destroying. I have visited 13 Yezidi refugee camps in Turkey. The refugees put much blame on the U.S. for starting this and are waiting and wondering why the U.S. does not protect them and destroy ISIS. The U.S. must provide military arms to Kurdish ground forces, including the outlawed (humanitarian, democracy-lovin g) PKK, as well as air support. Know your facts before drawing conclusions.
 
 
-1 # beeyl 2014-09-26 05:58
"indeed, recall that Obama bombed Libya even after Congress explicitly voted against authorization to use force, and very few people seemed to mind that abject act of lawlessness; constitutional constraints are not for warriors and emperors."
Or for Nobel Peace Laureates! That's because the medal's obverse has 5 get out of jail free stamps, while the reverse has 10 get into a muslim country free stamps. I thought this was common knowledge.
 
 
0 # Edwina 2014-09-27 11:13
Do you think that part of the strategy of war is to distract the citizenry from the real threat to our existence, that is, climate change? Is it only a coincidence that the ramp-up to war is taking place when the U.N. is scheduled to begin putting in place goals and sanctions for the reduction of greenhouse gases?
 

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