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Boardman writes: "Everything new about Fukushima is just the same-old same-old getting worse at an uneven and unpredictable rate."

An estimated 300 tons of contaminated groundwater are believed to be flowing into the ocean every day, and experts say the more than 1,000 storage tanks overlooking the site pose an even greater hazard. (photo: EcoWatch)
An estimated 300 tons of contaminated groundwater are believed to be flowing into the ocean every day, and experts say the more than 1,000 storage tanks overlooking the site pose an even greater hazard. (photo: EcoWatch)


SNAFUkushima: Updating Meltdowns, Still FUBAR and Deteriorating

By William Boardman, Reader Supported News

23 May 14

 

Fallout from Fukushima? A re-make of Godzilla! That’s the good news

here’s not much new to say about Fukushima. It remains an out of control disaster with as yet unmeasurable dimensions that continue to expand. Or perhaps it’s more accurate to say that everything new about Fukushima is just the same-old same-old getting worse at an uneven and unpredictable rate. Either way, it’s not good and, while it’s worse in degree, it’s not yet apparently worse in kind, so that’s one reason you don’t hear that much about it in the news these days.

Whatever the full truth is about Fukushima, it’s probably unknowable at present. And it might remain unknowable even if there were total transparency, even if there were no corporate, institutional, governmental, and other layers of secrecy protecting such enemies of the common good as profit, capital investment, and weapons development.

Secrecy and false reassurance have always been an integral part of the nuclear industry in all its manifestations. In January 2014, Tokyo Shimbun reported yet another example of nuclear opposition to honesty: the Fukushima prefecture government and the government-run Fukushima Medical University signed a secrecy agreement with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), a United Nations agency that “is committed to applying the highest ethical standards in carrying out its mandate,” or so it claims. The IAEA’s press release about the agreement is bland and inoffensive. According to Shimbun, each party to the agreement has the right to designate any information as confidential, specifically mentioning data about thyroid cancer in children or other facts that might “stir up anxiety of residents.”

Here are some other elements of SNAFUkushima that might stir up anxieties of residents and non-residents alike:

RADIOACTIVE WATER is beyond control and unmeasured

Clean groundwater has been flowing into the Fukushima nuclear plant complex since before the earthquake/tsunami of March 11, 2011, led to the meltdown of three of the four reactors at Fukushima Daiichi and the cold shutdown of the two reactors at Fukushima Daini at the same site. Once clean groundwater enters the site, some portion (or perhaps all of it) is contaminated by radioactivity, primarily from the three melted down reactors.

Additional clean water is pumped into the site to keep the melted-down reactors from further melting down, as well as to keep the nuclear fuel stored in fuel pools from starting to melt down. All of this water is radioactively contaminated.

The Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) and the Japanese government, essentially co-owners of the Fukushima complex, together with their subcontractors, have been collecting some of the radioactive water in steel tanks on site. Some, perhaps hundreds, of the 1,000-plus tanks have leaked.

Radioactive water has flowed from the Fukushima complex into the Pacific Ocean continuously since March 11, 2011. The flow rate varies, most likely, but no one knows what the rate is and there is no reliable system in place to measure the flow. There is also no reliable system in place to measure the intensity of the radiation, which also most likely varies.

TEPCO’s plan since 2013 has been to use an Advanced Liquid Processing System (ALPS) to treat the water in the holding tanks before releasing it into the Pacific. The processing system reduces the water’s radioactivity, but does not remove it all. After treatment, 62 nuclides – including Strontium and Plutonium – are supposed to be removed, but the water retains high levels of Tritium. As of May 2014, the ALPS treatment plan has not been implemented, has suffered several breakdowns, and is now more than six months behind schedule.

RADIOACTIVE WATER DUMPING began at Fukushima on May 21

TEPCO said in a press release, “we have commenced operation of the groundwater bypass.” TEPCO said it was releasing 560 tons (more than 150,000 gallons) of groundwater that is within “safe” radiation levels directly into the Pacific. TEPCO hopes to divert and release 100 tons (26,900 gallons) of groundwater every day. The Shanghai Daily reported that:

TEPCO said the levels of radioactivity of the groundwater being released were within legal radiation safety limits and will follow the World Health Organizations guidelines that groundwater for such releases should contain less than 1 becquerel per liter of cesium-134 and cesium-137, 5 becquerels of beta ray-emitting radioactive material.

Groundwater flowing into the disabled reactor buildings is estimated at 400 tons (over 107,000 gallons) per day.

TEPCO and Japan’s Nuclear Regulation Authority (NRA) consider this bypass release process less dangerous than collecting contaminated water in tanks that leak. Despite approving the start of TEPCO’s plan, the chairman of the Nuclear Regulation Authority, Sunichi Tanaka, has reportedly slammed TEPCO for incorrectly measuring levels of radioactive materials in groundwater at its Daiichi facility. Tanaka has said that even though three years has passed since the reactor meltdowns at the plant, TEPCO is still "utterly inept" when it comes to taking accurate readings of radioactivity at and around its facilities and "lacks a basic understanding of measuring and handling radiation."

THE UNIT 4 SPENT FUEL POOL still has disaster potential

In March 2011, the unit 4 reactor didn’t melt down because all its nuclear fuel rod assemblies had been removed for re-fueling, so they were stored in the unit’s spent fuel pool. But the fuel pool was about 100 feet above the ground and the earthquake/tsunami and subsequent explosions at the Fukushima left the fuel pool’s 1535 fuel assemblies in a precarious situation in an unstable building. An accident as bad as a meltdown, or worse, hasn’t happened yet, but remains possible as long as the fuel pool holds a substantial number of fuel assemblies.

TEPCO started to remove fuel assemblies in late 2013, moving them to safer fuel pools on the ground. Removal is scheduled to be complete before the end of 2014. But TEPCO said it had removed only 9 percent of the spent fuel so far and the delicate, dangerous process continues.

[On May 20-21, the internet was rife with reports of an explosion and fire at unit 4 on May 20, a claim that was based on a less than persuasive video. As of this writing, there seems to be no credible confirmation of an explosion or fire at unit 4.]

RADIOACTIVE CONTAMINATION spreads, but threat level is uncertain

Reports of radioactively contaminated fish have increased during the past two years, but there is as yet no systematic testing by any government or corporate or even no-profit program that comprehensively measures the threat in any reliable manner (hardly an easy task since the fish and the water in the Pacific are in motion all the time). Anecdotal reports of Fukushima fish and other anomalies include:

ALBACORE TUNA caught off Oregon and Washington state from 2008 to 2012 suggested a tripling of tuna-borne radiation in post-Fukushima fish, according to a report on April 30, 2014. But one researcher said that even the elevated level was only one-tenth of one per cent of the level for concern set by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

CALIFORNIA COASTAL COMMISSION issued a report on April 30 that both minimized the current threat of radiation from Fukushima and also called for further research into the effects of low level radiation on humans and for reliable radiation monitoring supported by government. The report noted that the release of radiation from Fukushima continues with no end in sight. The report also said, without apparent irony, that people on the west coast were still in less danger from Fukushima radiation than from the residual radiation from nuclear weapons testing in the Pacific 50 years and more ago.

MUTATION AND PREMATURE DEATH in butterflies caused by Fukushima levels of residual radiation was demonstrated by Japanese researchers, in a report published by Nature, as reported May 15 by Smithsonian.com. The researchers wrote: “We conclude that the risk of ingesting a polluted diet is realistic, at least for this butterfly, and likely for certain other organisms living in the polluted area.” A field study around Fukushima has shown a decrease in the population of these butterflies and other insects.

THYROID CANCER in children from Fukushima has reached a higher than normal level. A May 19 story reported that 50 newly documented thyroid cancer cases represented about a 50% increase since February.

DENIAL IN JAPAN surfaced in the form criticism of “Gourmets,” a food-oriented comic that included a storyline in which characters who are culinary writers visited the Fukushima complex and then fell ill and developed nosebleeds. According to Art Review on May 19, the food comic editor said the story “was a well-meaning attempt to highlight the fact that parts of Fukushima were dangerous, and that people were reluctant to complain themselves.” Criticism of the story was based on the fear that it would damage the Fukushima region’s people and products, food products especially. The corporate publisher, Shogakukan Inc., has suspended the comic series indefinitely. Japan Times reports on a nuclear researcher:

Hiroaki Koide, an assistant professor at the Kyoto University Research Reactor Institute, says that from a medical point of view the connection between nosebleeds and radiation exposure can’t be entirely ruled out….

He adds: “The government is not only indifferent to taking responsibility for the accident, but determined to erase it from people’s memory.” Such irresponsibility, he insists, is “almost criminal.”

Meanwhile, municipalities including Osaka and Fukushima prefectures and the town of Futaba have lodged complaints with the publisher.

HONESTY IN JAPAN appeared in The Asahi Shimbun May 20, with a previously suppressed, 400-page report that some 650 workers at Fukushima Daiichi fled the complex in the midst of the crisis. These 650 workers represent about 90 per cent of the workforce. Prior to this revelation, the official story, promulgated by media worldwide, had created the impression that workers at Fukushima had remained on site, showing great personal courage during the crisis. Even after the official story was exposed as 90% false, TEPCO refused to criticize any of its workers.

Commenting on this story on May 21, a Shimbun columnist noted that: “If the facts are hidden and treated as if they never happened, the Fukushima crisis will never be understood in its entirety, and no real lessons can be learned from the disaster.” The same day, a Japanese court ruled against re-starting two nuclear reactors at Fukui in western Japan. The court ruled that the two reactors represented a serious risk to the public in the event of an earthquake. The power company said it would appeal the ruling. The prime minister said the ruling would not change his plans to re-start all Japan’s nuclear reactors.

Who actually wants to learn any “real lessons” from Fukushima?

The struggle between lying and telling the truth about Fukushima seems likely to continue for a long time, especially with the Japanese government pressing to re-start its nuclear reactors and with few countries or world organizations willing to close the curtain on the nuclear age. But truth still has a constituency. In April, Katsutagka Idogawa, former mayor of Futaba in Fukushima prefecture, spoke out against the government’s efforts to force former residents to return home despite radiation contamination:

Fukushima Prefecture has launched the Come Home campaign.… Air contamination decreased a little, but soil contamination remains the same. And there are still about two million people living in the prefecture, who have all sorts of medical issues. The authorities claim this has nothing to do with the fallout….

I remember feeling so deeply for the victims of the Chernobyl tragedy that I could barely hold back the tears whenever I heard any reports on it. And now that a similar tragedy happened in Fukushima, the biggest problem is that there is no one to help us. They say it’s safe to go back … while in reality the radiation is still there. This is killing children. They die of heart conditions, asthma, leukemia, thyroiditis.… Lots of kids are extremely exhausted after school; others are simply unable to attend PE classes. But the authorities still hide the truth from us, and I don’t know why. Don’t they have children of their own?

Idogawa described his own symptoms, consistent with radiation poisoning, symptoms that persist even though he’s moved to another prefecture. He says he’s not getting treatment now and there’s no place to go for help: “The nearest hospital refused to treat me. So I’m trying to restore my health through nutrition.”

The Japanese government allowed Fukushima residents to start returning to their homes as of April 1, saying that it was safe. It was not safe. The government lied. On April 16, Asahi Shimbun reported some of the government’s lies that put people at risk.

“The same thing happened with Hiroshima and Nagasaki,” Idogawa said: “The authorities lied to everyone. They said it was safe. They hid the truth…. Japan has some dark history.” And so does the rest of the world.


William M. Boardman has over 40 years experience in theatre, radio, TV, print journalism, and non-fiction, including 20 years in the Vermont judiciary. He has received honors from Writers Guild of America, Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Vermont Life magazine, and an Emmy Award nomination from the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences.

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+23 # A_Har 2014-05-23 13:32
The Fukupshima saga continues and continues and continues.
 
 
+22 # Lorraine B. 2014-05-23 13:59
Concerning ".albacore tuna caught off Oregon and Washington state from 2008 to 2012" and possible "...radiation in post-Fukushima fish", it doesn't take a rocket (or nuclear scientist) to make the connection why (surprise, surprise) the price of canned albacore tuna has fallen radically in the past year. I suppose they are trying to deplete the supply of Fukushima contaminated stock. Now we know the rest of the story...
 
 
+11 # John S. Browne 2014-05-23 14:26
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BILL: Please make the following correction:

"An accident as bad as a meltdown (in the spent fuel pools), or worse, hasn’t happened yet, but remains possible as long as the fuel pool holds a substantial number of fuel assemblies."

...Adding the words in parenthesis, without the parenthesis of course. Otherwise it makes it sound like there have supposedly been no meltdowns whatsoever, including core meltdowns; when there have already been three of the latter, which are ongoing. It also makes it sound like it is contradicting (an)other part(s) of your article.

Thank you.

EVERYONE:

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/japan-begins-purposely-dumping-100s-of-tons-of-radioactive-water-from-fukushima-into-the-pacific

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+3 # moonrigger 2014-05-24 15:44
Browne, are you a chemist?
 
 
+5 # moonrigger 2014-05-24 15:50
Check out the Dan River and other coal ash spills. Check out how many people have died from coal mining, coal ash exposure, and coal transportation accidents in the US. When you're done, check out how many people have died in the US from a nuclear power plant accident. Coal kills thousands every year, and has wiped out whole ecosystems, yet we rarely get the truth about coal. We get the sob stories about coal miners losing their jobs, when they should be trained for other work. But of course, there is no work for them, and less and less for everyone else in this country. Meanwhile, China is building more nuclear power plants (thanks to stealing our plans), and will soon wrap up their takeover of the world's economy, including solar, auto and computer manufacturing, steel, and food production. Oh well!
 
 
-4 # jdd 2014-05-26 06:36
You are right. There has not been a single fatality due to nuclear plants in the US. Not one. Nada.

PS: Don't blame China, they are pursuing areas of science which we've dropped, such as moon exploration and are looking at Helium 3 mining as a source of thermonuclear fusion fuel. It is our own subservience to "green ideology" which is threatening our nation.
 
 
+2 # WBoardman 2014-05-26 11:26
jdd floats a nuclear industry truthiness claim,
the truth of which is so limited that the claim is
fundamentally dishonest, a distortion and a lie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_by_death_toll

This lie starts by by setting irrational limitations –
nuclear plants & U.S.

Nuclear power is a global industry and nuclear power
plants have killed people, The debate is over how many.

But limiting the problem to death-by-power- plant
is a little like saying nobody drowned by staying dry.

The nuclear industry is not just power plants –
it comprises, among other things, uranium mining,
processing, and waste – each of which has its own
lethalaties, especially mining.

And given the nature of radiation poisoning, proving
that radiation killed a particular person is hard if not
impossible to prove – even though we know, even the
nuclear industry knows, that radiation kills people.
Industry and its shills just don't want to deal honestly
with their profitable process that everyone pays for.
 
 
+25 # Vardoz 2014-05-23 15:09
Fukushima is a tragedy beyond comprehension. Every man woman and child will suffer the consequences of this industries incompetence. This is why irresponsible energy companies, especially nuclear is such an extreme threat not only to mankind but to all life on Earth. We no longer eat fish and are frightened about eating produce from California and definitely will not eat meat or fruits from Hawaii. I recently spoke to someone from Hawaii and asked what he thought about Fukushima. He said " ever see the movie ON THE BEACH." I think that says it all. What Topco has done and is doing is a crime against humanity, a horrific nightmare that will kill for generations and eventually poison our already polluted ocean.
 
 
+12 # phrixus 2014-05-23 17:11
I wonder how much further the international community will allow this situation to degrade before they intervene whether the Japanese government likes it or not. This is a crisis that can potentially affect the national security of ALL the world's states, not just Japan. So far they have shown themselves completely ineffective in dealing with the situation and have even attempted (ineptly) to cover-up the seriousness of the events there. Where is the UN?
 
 
+8 # John S. Browne 2014-05-24 07:57
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The U.S. government and the U.N. want the matter covered up, too (and that's why they're supporting what the Japanese government and TEPCO are "doing"; and/or the lack of what they're doing). Look at how the U.S., when they say anything at all about the issue, claims that everything's hunky-dory, when it most-definitely is NOT. And has stopped testing. And raised "safe" radiation limits. Etc. The U.N. is part and parcel of corporate-fasci st global government; and corporate-fasci st global government wants to and is carry(ing) out eugenics, or what I like to call, "eugenocide", against us, to exterminate the vast majority of the human population on earth, in order to ostensibly "save the planet"; so they are not likely to ameliorate the Fuku- shima disaster (after all, it is helping them eliminate millions of us from the face of the planet!).

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-10 # moonrigger 2014-05-24 15:42
This is nutso conspiracy thinking. The US has nothing to do with the Japanese decision to limit journalistic access to the accident analysis, etc. If you expect honesty, it should begin with your own writing, which should be factual, not sensational. If you spout these theories, you need to back them up with facts.
 
 
+2 # John S. Browne 2014-05-24 16:15
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You're a "nutso" non-conspiracy, so-called "thinker". That's not at all surprising consi- dering how effectively the U.S. government, other societies, and the mainstream media have falsely propagandized and brainwashed most "Amerikans" and others. I only "spout" conspiracy FACTS, and I'm only commenting, stating my beliefs. I'm not writing articles, so I don't have to prove anything. It's not up to me to educate you about all of these facts, which are freely available out in the internet "ether". It is YOUR responsibility to educate yourself about them, not use me and other "conspiracy factualists" like myself as an excuse, as you and your ilk do, to avoid and deny truth that is inconvenient for you, that you don't want to believe, and that you refuse to accept.

The fact that you live in avoidance and denial of much if not all of what's really going on in the U.S. and the world, like most people do, especially "Amerikans", is YOUR problem, not mine; and it is not my responsibility. Besides, probably no matter how much I showed you the real truth, you would very likely avoid and deny it; thus, it's a never ending vicious circle with you brainwashed people; and there's usually no reasoning with you. Rather than face the truth of what's really happening, you will avoid and deny it, most likely endlessly; and, then, finally, you will have a very rude awakening to what's really going on, but only when it's much too late. That's very sad for all of your kind...

(Cont'd)
 
 
+1 # John S. Browne 2014-05-24 16:16
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...and all of those who you have influence over.

Good "luck" with all of that, "Moonbat" (aka, nutcase) denialist; because, if there was such a thing as luck, which their isn't, you and all of your ilk would very much be in need of it, in droves.

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-2 # phrixus 2014-05-25 06:23
"...corporate-f ascist global government wants to and is carry(ing) out eugenics, or what I like to call, "eugenocide", against us, to exterminate the vast majority of the human population on earth, in order to ostensibly 'save the planet'..."

With apologies to John McEnroe "You CANNOT be serious!"
 
 
0 # John S. Browne 2014-05-31 15:58
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Ditto, you.

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-4 # MidwesTom 2014-05-23 20:44
The Japanese education system does not promote 'out of the box' thinking , this probably prevented the blue sky development of a risk analysis tree, which should have considered the set of circumstances that created this mess. Unfortunately, as we stop using coal to generate electricity, nuclear will be necessary to produce the power required for heavy industry.
 
 
-3 # phrixus 2014-05-25 06:32
Agreed. As much as some of us would prefer solar, wind, geothermal and other sustainable power implementations the numbers simply aren't there i.e. too little, too late. Hopefully we will have the good sense to build the much, much safer LFTR's instead of the incredibly dangerous light water reactors we are currently toying with. For those interested I recommend reading "SuperFuel: Thorium, the Green Energy Source for the Future (MacSci)" by Richard Martin.
 
 
+2 # kalpal 2014-05-23 21:08
Schools, colleges and universities seem incapable, or is it unwilling, of creating courses that teach the students how and why mistakes were made in the past. If we teach ourselves how we unknowingly continully court disaster and why we were unable to even glimpse the unintended consequences of past actions, maybe we can avoid repetetive disasters which seem to occur about as often as bad weather.

I know that there are history courses being offered but is anyone examining humanity's chronic proclivity for making mistakes? If so, I have not heard of it. Thi is field of study that should be organized and funded.

As it stands I believe humanity is slowly but surely sliding towards self extinction due to hubris and baseless arrogance. At least some of us know how to deconstruct some pf the more spectatcular screwups and teach anyone working in academic, industrial and commercial fields what happened and why. Sometimes curiousity helps us put in place a way to avoid finding out that pains of the physical, fiscal and even emotional sort can hurt and should be avoided or sidestepped.
 
 
-13 # BKnowswhitt 2014-05-23 21:20
More likely you would get sick from usa beef (ie ecoli) than fish that are radio active. Again it's alright to criticize .. a once in 100 years quake and old nuclear technology caused the problem. Sub titles herein: "Beyond Control and unmeasure" .. on radioactive contamination; "Threat levels un measured and uncertain"; "Still has disaster potential" .. details and facts not provided. So no shit it was a disaster. However fish to USA coast contaminated .. unproven .. all is being monitored .. you think american fisherman want radio active catch and aftermath? This article inflates fear ..yet provides much supposition so far unfactual ... reporting ..
 
 
-3 # moonrigger 2014-05-24 15:38
Most vegans don't know beans about radiation in food, i.e., bananas contain more radiation than other fruits--why? because of their potassium content. In fact, the "banana equivalent dose" (abbreviated BED) is an informal expression of ionising radiation exposure used in scientific analysis. Yes, folks, our foods are radioactive naturally, and not because of Fukushima. Our soils are radioactive, some more than others, depending on where you live. Do your homework and you'll find out. The entire planet is radioactive--ju st not at levels we need to worry about, at least, not yet in most of these here united states.
 
 
+6 # cordleycoit 2014-05-24 00:22
One can never tell anything close to the truth to the average American they are stuck in their stpidity by the power elete.They tend to use emotion and political thinking about science so they have a box of rocks between their ears. There's lots to think about here because the fools think Japan to be far away and not like us. Cancer looks like it will be part of the whole planet's future. Thanks to those titans of industry and their parrots.
 
 
+3 # shraeve 2014-05-24 01:42
This makes me glad I am a vegan.
 
 
+5 # John S. Browne 2014-05-24 08:07
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That's not going to completely help you, or the rest of the vegans, etc. The entire food chain, including veggies, is being contaminated with the high levels of radioactive dust, in the soil, falling on the growing produce, and now the water being used to water it as well. Except to the Southern Hemisphere, you can't run away from it or avoid it. It's now everywhere in North America, and the Northern Hemisphere for that matter; and it's only going to get worse and worse. I recommend moving to the Southern Hemisphere right away, if you, and everyone, can.

In the meantime, everyone should always wear a face mask whenever they go outside; and they should go outside as little as possible; and certainly not exercise, or breathe heavily, outside without a face mask whatsoever. And, when they drive and/or ride around in motor vehicles, they should have all of the vents and windows closed completely (only recirculating the air for heat and air conditioning), and always wear the face mask(s) when going to and from their vehicles. In addition, they should stay completely out of precipitation; and, if they can't entirely avoid it, use an umbrella to and from their motor vehicles and/or other transportation [making sure not to handle the cloth portion of the umbrella(s) where the radiated water from the radioactive dust has contacted the umbrella(s)]. Furthermore, eat and take plenty of ORGANIC antioxidants (grown ONLY in a hothouse and/or greenhouse environment).

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+12 # Nominae 2014-05-24 05:34
The new HBO Investigative Report called "VICE" just sent a team into Fukushima Prefecture.

The Japanese Govt. has standing radiation monitors all over the Prefecture. The ones filmed were in an elementary school yard.

VICE investigators brought in their own hand held radiation monitors which proved what the locals had been telling VICE - that the Govt monitors were rigged to report the real radiation at anywhere from one half, to one fifth of the actual testable levels.

A Japanese Scientist being interviewed also accused the Govt of this huge cover up, and stated that the actual radiation levels around the Fukushima plant are 167 times that produced by the Hiroshima Bomb.

The scientist was also shown saying that this cover up had serious consequences not only for the rest of Japan, but for the "rest of the world".

Predictably, the VICE team was denied entry into the Fukushima Plant, and were "invited" to vacate the premises immediately, which they very quickly did.
 
 
-2 # moonrigger 2014-05-24 15:31
Fukushima should never have happened, and certainly would not have if the Japanese had listened to recommendations by the US NRC about their bad choice of siting, lack of backup generator power, etc. etc.--all things that are in place here. Most Americans don't realize that the DOE here is not overseen by the NRC, which is why we had the kitty litter incident in NM. Nuclear power plants are the most regulated industry in the US. It's too bad most Americans aren't given the facts about nukes. This is because the news industry knows any issues garner huge headlines. Japan is already suffering from substituting fossil burning for nuclear since the accident. California is, too, since San Onofre was shut down. If we want electric cars, we will need to rethink nuclear power, and also to educate ourselves about the vast difference between power generation and nuclear bomb making. We should insist that the DOE and DOD use the same stringent regulations as nuclear power plants.
 
 
+5 # Nominae 2014-05-24 21:25
Quoting moonrigger:
....It's too bad most Americans aren't given the facts about nukes......


Part I

Yeah..... such facts as that scientists have been working with nukes since 1944, and *still* have zero clue as to how to safely store nuclear waste. That comes from the scientists themselves.

The same problem that killed nukes in the 70s.

It is inane to even think 'nukes' until that problem is fully addressed.

Bury them ? As if the ground will never, ever *shift* during the astounding half life of this stuff ?

Right.

Shove the problem off on our children, if we manage to stay safe that long ourselves.

Such facts as the reality that Fossil Fuels and Nukes are both singing their swan song as the price competitiveness , reliability, obvious safety, and freedom from deadly waste provided by renewables, is now *proven* to render fossils and nukes both obsolete.

And it will *not* take "forever" to switch over - even as we speak the private sector and even City and County governments are converting to solar - and enacting laws encouraging others to do so.

Freakin' walmart is now installing solar panels on the roofs of their stores, and excuse me if my first thought is not that they are doing so out of their searing concern for the environment and their fellow men.
 
 
+8 # Nominae 2014-05-24 21:30
[quote name="NOMINAE"]

PART II

The State of Oregon has just installed a massive Solar Farm designed to eventually challenge the Bonneville Power Administration.

Delightful facts, indeed, such as that nukes are one of the most dangerous, expensive, hilarious Rube Goldberg solutions *imaginable* for solving the problem of "how to boil water".

You know - killing a gnat with a mountain howitzer that blows back in your own face every fourteen shots or so.

I have *never* seen anyone vigorously defend nukes who does not themselves have a financial stake underlying, or who simply has no idea what they are talking about.

You yourself seem too well informed to indulge in this "pretzel logic" two step simply in the service of "humanity" - unless we are here defining "humanity" to mean "nuke investors".

From the standpoint of reason, logic, engineering, and science itself, nukes are simply indefensible.

A stupidly dangerous scientific mistake born of the horrors of war, and in *desperate* need of correction.

Nukes are the village blacksmith during the first days of mass production of the automobile - *very* soon to be out of a job.
 
 
+4 # theshift 33 2014-05-26 15:38
To: Moonrigger - Yes the DOE and the DOD should use the same stringent "recommendation s" for voluntary compliance (for those nuclear power plants that actually comply). Read
Fukushima - A Nuclear Disaster's text that was released last month and you will be horrified at how complict the Nuclear Regulatory (oops, recommendation)
commission is with the industry and how
even these recommendations are twisted into industry parlance. The NRC are manipulated and acquiesce to what the nuclear industry wants through errors of ommission, legal wrangling and minimizing. If anything ever happens in this country it will be criminal.
 

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