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Boardman writes: "The acting president of Ukraine, Oleksandr Turchynov, told regional governors on May 1 that the Kiev interim government was 'helpless' to re-establish central government control in eastern Ukraine, where anti-Kiev forces (pro-independence and/or pro-Russian) have taken control of numerous cities in a manner imitating the way the Kiev government itself seized power in February."

Oleksandr Turchynov. (photo: Twitter)
Oleksandr Turchynov. (photo: Twitter)


Odessa Atrocity Erupts in Peaceful City, and No One Wonders Why?

By William Boardman, Reader Supported News

10 May 14

Kiev Supporters Burn Opponents Alive in Odessa, Police Do Nothing

he acting president of Ukraine, Oleksandr Turchynov, told regional governors on May 1 that the Kiev interim government was “helpless” to re-establish central government control in eastern Ukraine, where anti-Kiev forces (pro-independence and/or pro-Russian) have taken control of numerous cities in a manner imitating the way the Kiev government itself seized power in February.

"I will be frank. Today, security forces are unable to take the situation in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions quickly under control,” Turchynov said at the May Day meeting. He reported that numerous Ukrainian military and security personnel had defected to the rebels, taking their arms with them. With Kiev’s authority in doubt in much of eastern Ukraine, Turchynov said his government’s plan was to try to slow pro-Russian gains by concentrating on the defense of Kharkiv in the northeast and Odessa in the southwest.

For months, Odessa (population about one million) had remained relatively peaceful despite turmoil in other parts of the country. Odessa was more disturbed by speculation than active demonstrations. The April 16 declaration of the “Odessa People’s Republic” turned out to be a hoax, and European monitors reported that the city remained calm. On April 23 in Odessa, people from various sides, including supporters of Euromaidan (pro-Kiev) and supporters of Antimaidan (pro-Russian culturally, but not always pro-separatist), agreed that the greatest threat to Ukraine was from abroad. They reportedly worked together to establish checkpoints around Odessa to defend against pro-Russian provocateurs.

The day after acting president Turchynov spoke of being “helpless,” the Kiev government launched its largest military operation to date in eastern Ukraine, an action that is still causing casualties on both sides, as the fighting continues at a low intensity.

On the same day, May 2, Odessa suffered more civilian deaths than any place in Ukraine since some 70 people died in Kiev in February, in the course of the bloody coup that brought the present government to power.

What happened in Odessa on May 2 remains somewhat murky

According to RT (Russian Television in English) in a late report that day, the events of May 2 started quietly and ended with violence and bloodshed (this has since been widely confirmed, although precise numbers remain uncertain):

“39 anti-government activists have died in a fire at Odessa’s Trade Unions House. Some burned to death, while others suffocated or jumped out of windows, the Ukrainian Interior Ministry reported. The building was set ablaze by pro-Kiev radicals.”

Earlier on May 2, around 2 p.m., some 1,500 pro-Kiev demonstrators gathered for a peaceful assembly in support of national unity, according to Agence France-Presse, which reported that at some point, “hundreds of pro-Russian militants swinging batons and wearing helmets on Friday attacked [the] rally…. Police intervened to try to break up the violence, which left dozens wounded on both sides.”

Where AFP saw an attack, RT saw a collision:

“A pro-unity demonstration, which included nationalists and football fans, ran into a rally preaching greater autonomy for the regions. Gunfire was heard … as two rival rallies met, police having failed to draw them apart. Over 2,000 protesters pelted each other with Molotov cocktails and smoke grenades. Pavements were dismantled to get the stones for the fight, like it was done in Kiev during the Maidan protests. Local police reported that four people were killed in the stand-off, and at least one of them died due to a gun-shot wound. At least 37 received injuries in clashes….

“Some of the people in the group were wearing the ultra-nationalist Right Sector movement insignia. They were also armed with chains and bats and carried shields, as an Itar-Tass correspondent on the ground reported. The group tried to march through the city, chanting ‘Glory to Ukraine,’ ‘Death to enemies,’ ‘Knife the Moskals [derogatory for Russians]’….”

Most of the crowd was not involved in any violence, judging by some of the available video: People by the hundreds mill about like a crowd at a carnival, wandering around an intersection where nothing appears to be happening, while people in a large cluster to one side look down a street toward a sideshow, something billowing smoke out of sight of the camera. Even when there are explosions or when shots ring out, no one seems to react. The crowd is overwhelmingly male. A lone young woman in the middle of the street with a camera seems unconcerned. Some of the men are masked, or wearing uniforms of one sort or another; some wear helmets and quite a few carry sticks or clubs, and shields, but firearms are rarely shown. Only a few people have cameras visible. A group of ten or more pro-Kiev men hijack a fire truck, then sit on it without moving. A Molotov cocktail burns on an empty street.

A long video compilation starts in bright daylight, showing police forming a line with their backs to one group of protestors as they face a sketchy barricade of lumber, ladders, a dumpster, panels of some sort, and other large detritus. Beyond this is another crowd in the distance. Some in the near crowd throw stones over the police in front of them, but it’s unlikely any can throw far enough to reach the other crowd. These police do nothing to intervene. Later there are some 30 police huddled together behind their shields as a handful of young men pelt them with rocks. In other shots there are men (not police) with handguns and automatic weapons.

Kiev proxies perpetrated the worst carnage of the day

Later in the day, the pro-Kiev forces attack a large stone building, five stories tall, with a colonnaded front entrance that is barricaded by its defenders. The attackers dismantle and burn an encampment in front of the building, dismantling a speaker’s platform and towers for lights and sound equipment. This is Odessa’s Trade Unions House and it is under siege, surrounded by a scattered, bustling crowd of hundreds of mostly armed men. Some throw stones at the defenders. Shots are fired. Farther back are thin ranks of hundreds of onlookers, many passively taking pictures. It appears to be a scene of relentless, low-intensity but extreme vandalism.

Later, the barricade is gone and no defenders are visible in front of the building. The pro-Kiev attackers have set fire to perhaps a dozen tents in front of the building and they burn into the night. Flames twenty feet high engulf the entrance to the Trade Unions House. Intense flames rage inside the ground floor and thick, black smoke pours out of windows on several floors (it looks like a stairwell on fire). There are people inside the building, fifty reportedly trapped on the roof. In the twilight, police arrive quietly, in formation, without reaction from the crowd. The police don’t do much. Wounded or dead victims are dragged or wheeled about, or left lying on the pavement. No one fights any of the fires. There are occasional shots or small explosions to which no one visibly reacts. There is no sign that people inside the building are fighting back. The crowd gets noisy when more than half a dozen people from inside the building appear along a narrow ledge, between smoking windows. Some of the onlookers have moved one of the light and sound towers next to the building, allowing people on the ledge to climb down the pipe framing, with police surrounding the base.

In another tape, someone throws a Molotov cocktail that hits the side of the building and burns on a ledge. A heavyset man in a blue uniform shoots his pistol at the building. A man crouches on a ledge above the crowd as smoke pours from a nearby window. Later he is gone. If any of the dozens of men in uniform are police, they are doing nothing to control the crowd. A crawling, wounded man is kicked from behind. There are other wounded people, some getting medical attention (officially, more than 200 were wounded during the day).

At dusk, some people start rescuing those trapped in the building

At one window of the Trade Unions House is the Ukrainian flag. Two people hang onto the outside of a window frame of a smoking third-floor window. At another window there are flames inside. People are leaning out of other third floor windows. Someone throws a Molotov cocktail at them, but misses. The crowd remains quiet, ignoring explosions. Drumming begins in the distance and lasts a few minutes. A rescue effort using ropes, a sound/light tower, and a ladder takes almost half an hour, but frees several people from the third floor. The second floor continues to burn nearby, but another ladder allows a few more people to escape from a smoking window. A man in a white helmet climbs a ladder to a third floor window and leads more people down. Firefighters in white helmets have extinguished the blaze at the front door. There are still hundreds of people in front of the building, but they are quiet, and the tent fires have burned out. It is dark. What light there is comes mostly from flashing emergency vehicles.

In the aftermath, inside the Trade Unions House, a 14-minute video circulates with what appear to be police officers walking through a series of offices that have been trashed, but are not burned. The “officers” occasionally rummage through papers, but ignore the occasional, apparently lifeless body. Outside, in the dark, people are milling about, occasionally calling out, sometimes laughing, mostly quiet until a group starts to chant in the distance.

This fragmentary and non-linear impression of events in Odessa is based predominantly on several hours of video for which there is no reliable verification (or discrediting). The cumulative effect of seeing many of the same moments from different angles lends credence to the reality of what is shown. Little if any of it could have been staged without great effort that surely someone would have noticed. It’s hard to find a credible and detailed account of that day’s events anywhere, never mind in mainstream media (the best I have seen so far are several by RT, and by the BBC on May 6).

Given what looks like mob murder, how would Western media play it?

At this point, a reasonable interpretation of fragmentary evidence suggests that there were distinct but related events in Odessa on May 2.

The first event began with the afternoon march of some 1,500 pro-Ukainian unity supporters, including hard-core fans of two Ukrainian soccer teams (Odessa vs. Kharkiv) as well as veterans of the Maidan Self Defense Force and members of Right Sector, the right wing political party that supplied much of the muscle in the Maidan’s resistance to the then-government. They then clashed with about 500 pro-Russian separatists, in a street fight with little close combat, although as many as four people died and others were injured. According to one report, that clash lasted about 15 minutes before the outnumbered pro-Russians retreated to the square in front of the Trade Unions House, where they had been camping out since February in a peaceful protest against the Kiev-coup government. (Odessa has a Russian ethnic minority of about 30%, or 300,000 people.)

The second event, the attack on the Trade Unions House (a mile or more away from the first clash), began some time later (likely flowing out of the first event, whether by design or opportunity). It formed for reasons that remain unclear – except for the ethnic/political hostility represented by the participants. The soccer/Maidan/Right Sector forces outnumbered the pro-Russians by 3 to 1, and appear to have been better armed as well. They had little difficulty driving the pro-Russians out of their encampment, then tearing it apart and setting it on fire. The pro-Kiev forces seem to have had little resistance from the pro-Russians, first forcing them back inside the Trade Unions Hall, then setting it on fire at multiple points, demonstrating what appears, at best, a willful disregard for life and safety.

For the most part Western media seem to have underplayed or ignored the reality of Odessa (or distorted it) for the sake of a propagandistic linkage to the Kiev government’s military offensive against Slovyansk, half a country away. As The New York Times headlined it on May 3 (inside story on page 7): “Ukrainian Troops Strike Rebel-Held City as Fighting Spreads to Black Sea Port” – an incoherent headline on its face that gets only less coherent in the context of reality. The story below that headline includes exactly two self-contradictory paragraphs about Odessa, one of which appears to be fiction:

“The deaths [on May 2] expand the increasingly violent struggle for control over Ukraine’s Black Sea port, which had been quiet until last week, when seven people were wounded in a roadside bombing.”

That’s the entire report of an attack for which there is no date, no location, no identification of the perpetrators, no identification of any of the victims, and no reaction from any official. A google search produced no other reference anywhere to this alleged roadside bombing. And the Times itself omits mention of the bombing in its longer, next-day story (inside on page 14) which goes back to reporting that Odessa “had been mostly calm” before May 2. (Another report referred to May 2 as Odessa’s “blackest day since 1941, when Nazi-allied Romanian occupying troops killed thousands of Jews.”)

Dishonest media bang the drums for war in Ukraine

Although Reuters is sometimes considered among the more reliable news organizations, it’s on board with the propaganda designed to persuade its readers of the “inevitability” of war – and, more subtly, of the righteousness of “our” side. A Reuters story on May 6, under a deceptive headline, “Both sides bury dead as Ukraine slides towards war,” begins with a lede that offers the basis for a case study in manipulation of a sort common to American mainstream media from MSNBC to Fox:

“KRAMATORSK/ODESSA, Ukraine (Reuters) - Both sides have been burying their dead as Ukraine slides further towards war, with supporters of Russia and of a united Ukraine accusing each other of tearing the country apart.”

“Both sides” is an inherently misleading phrase, since it is rare in any conflict that there are only two sides, especially in the conflict’s early stages.

“Both sides” is meaningless – worse than meaningless, it conceals meaning when applied to Ukraine, where there are, at a minimum, nine identifiable “sides” or factions, often overlapping:

  1. Ukrainians who want a non-aligned, free, independent Ukraine;

  2. Ukrainians who want a western-aligned but independent Ukraine;

  3. Ukrainians who want an anti-Russian Ukraine in NATO;

  4. Americans (and some of their allies) who have been working for decades to use Ukraine to threaten Russia;

  5. Ukrainians who want a Russian-dominated Ukraine (for example, the elected government that was overthrown in February);

  6. Ukrainians who want a federal Ukraine (similar to U.S.) in which dominant ethnic groups have significant independence;

  7. Ukrainians who want one or more independent states established within what is now Ukraine (i.e., Republic of Donetsk);

  8. Ukrainians who want to be part of Russia (i.e., Crimea);

  9. Russians who want one or more of these options, but mostly want the U.S./west to end their decades of threatening and leave Ukraine as much in Russia’s sphere of influence as Mexico is in America’s.

“Both sides” means what to Reuters? Which two of nine or more “sides” does Reuters want you to think about? Apparently Reuters wants you to think this is a conflict between Kiev and Moscow, as if Washington had played no role. That makes no sense unless one assumes some sort of political purity in Kiev, despite the regime’s illegitimacy and subsequent actions; the Kiev/Moscow reductionism also requires one to assume some sort of pure political malevolency in Moscow, despite its failure to intervene militarily yet and its legitimate interests in what happens on its border and what happens to ethnic Russians beyond its borders. A closer equivalence is between Washington and Moscow, each of which would like to achieve its own geopolitical goals (boding little good for Ukraine either way) without leaving more fingerprints at the crime scene that can be helped. Only a fool would assume that the American CIA chief visited Kiev to tell the government that the U.S. was not getting more involved in the struggle. Only a fool would believe that Kiev’s subsequent offensive against protesters (whose actions have been little different from those in the Maidan last winter) was all Kiev’s idea. Compared to the elected government’s restraint in the face of the Maidan protests, the current Kiev regime is proceeding with lethal rapidity and no apparent comparable effort to negotiate through the crisis.

“Both sides” is an obvious fiction even within the Reuters story, since those who are “burying their dead” are perhaps on opposites sides (of nine or more) politically, but they are not even close to being on opposite sides of the same confrontation. One side, in Kramatorsk, in northeast Ukraine, is more than 400 miles away from the “other” side in Odessa, in southwest Ukraine. These people are, most likely, total strangers – not two sides of a neat prevarication.

“Burying their dead” is emotive language, apparently employed here to stir passion, since the burials themselves have no inherent news value (and Reuters doesn’t even try to fake that part).

“Ukraine slides further toward war” misrepresents just about every aspect of what is happening. The underlying assumption – that Ukraine is sliding toward war – cannot be proven until it happens, which gives it an aspect of self-fulfilling prophecy. Focusing only on Ukraine falsifies a situation that includes Russia, the United States, Europe, Israel, border states, and an uncertain number of other actors. “Slides” is a slippery word that suggests no one is in control, when surely one or more sides in Ukraine are strategically ready (if not eager) to accept war. And why just “war” – why not “civil war?” Low-grade civil war may describe just what is happening now in Ukraine, where Ukrainians killing Ukrainians has continued its escalatory creep. Is Reuters secretly dreaming of a wider “war?”

According to Reuters, “both sides” means “supporters of Russia and of a united Ukraine,” as if there weren’t another seven of more articulable political positions. So it’s nonsense on its face. But what does “supporters of Russia” even mean? What does a “supporter of Russia” want? Annexation? Independence? Autonomy within Ukraine? Friendly international relations? Puppies? And supporters of a “united Ukraine?” What do they want? NATO membership? European Union membership? Non-aligned independence? A federal system? What? What we know about the usurping government in Kiev is that its very first act was to remove Russian from its official language status, which infuriated Russian speakers, no surprise. Kiev has since reinstated Russian’s official language status, but it’s nowhere near reinstating even minimal trust from people who might be labeled “supporters of Russia.”

Ukrainians “accusing each other of tearing the country apart” stand a good chance of being correct, no matter who they are. For a country to be torn apart it must first be a coherent whole, a state of being that Ukraine has never achieved for any significant period of time. So any accusation of tearing the country apart is more like a euphemism for “you’re not doing what I want.” In a situation with nine or more sides, that’s going to happen a lot.

The reality in Ukraine is that no one likes the reality in Ukraine

Almost everyone who talks about Ukraine talks about the need for peaceful solutions, though it’s not at all clear how many of those people mean anything more than “accept my point of view.” From the available evidence, it seems safe to assume that Ukraine is not filled with peacemakers, although there seems to be a majority of Ukrainians ready to live peacefully if they’re just left alone [a speculation perhaps too rosy to be real]. A few in the current government seem, on occasion, to have peaceful instincts but insufficient moral authority to persuade many of their peers to temper their rhetoric and work patiently for a broadly-supported settlement, assuming one could be devised. Such a settlement, difficult enough under internal Ukrainian conditions, is impossible under international conditions. It’s not just that Washington and Moscow are facing off, which would be bad enough. It’s that Washington has slowly but relentlessly pushed Moscow into a corner where it has little choice but to resist or resign itself to hostile Western advances more or less forever.

Ukraine is not surrounded by peacemakers, and even those European governments inclined to find a compromise are themselves compromised by an uncompromising United States, which lacks even the simple human decency to condemn burning innocent people alive. “The events in Odessa dramatically underscore the need for an immediate de-escalation of tensions in Ukraine,” White House spokesman Jay Carney said with a near-pathological lack of empathy. “The violence and efforts to destabilize the country must end.” It’s unlikely he was referring to the decades-long effort by the United States, its allies, and its proxies to achieve such destabilization for their own benefit. It’s even less likely that the Obama administration will acknowledge its unique position to de-escalate tensions by easing up its own efforts to de-stabilize and control Ukraine by proxy. At this point, only a significant shift of American policy can offer any hope for Ukraine. That’s bad news for Ukraine.

In reaction to the massacre in Odessa, where he death toll stands at 46 with another 48 still missing, the Kiev government sacked the top leadership of the Odessa police department. Acting interior minister Arsen Avakov said on Facebook that he fired the police officials “for failing to prevent a pro-Russian mob from attacking a pro-Ukrainian rally, a confrontation that touched off the violence on Friday,” according to the Times on May 6, without alluding to the police role in relation to the mob action that burned people alive.

Earlier in its inside shirttail (page 11) the Times referred to the burial of “one of the pro-Russian leaders, Vyachislav Markin.” With an almost Orwellian approach to re-writing history to fit the current propaganda, the Times wrote with cold distortion that: “Mr. Markin perished in the fire that burned a trade union building where pro-Russian activists had holed up after losing a street battle with pro-Ukrainian activists on Friday.”

Two days after the May 2 violence during which police arrested more than 100 people, several hundred pro-Russian supporters gathered at a police jail, forcing open its gate. Significantly outnumbered, police offered no resistance and released about 70 prisoners.

To replace the deposed Odessa police officers, Minister Avakov has sent an elite police unit from Kiev to keep order in Odessa. The new police unit, called Kiev-1 Battalion, comprises mostly veterans of the Maidan occupation that drove out the elected government in February. The nature and arrival of this special police unit, among an estimated 4,000 pro-Kiev troops sent to the city, has raised suspicions in Odessa, where Bloomberg (among others) reports widespread uncertainty:

Conspiracy theories are rife on both sides [sic]. Pro-Russian groups say the gunmen who started it all by opening fire on a peaceful demonstration by pro-Ukrainian soccer fans were paid by officials in Kiev to justify military action and subdue the rebels by force. Nationalists say Russia planned the attack to spread insurrection and weaken the central government. Both sides accuse the police of inaction and Ukrainian prosecutors have started an investigation.

“Ukraine’s government blamed the events on Russia’s Federal Security Service, the main successor to the Soviet-era KGB, and said the fire broke out after pro-Russians threw Molotov cocktails from inside. They were seeking to escape fighting that broke out after a march for Ukrainian unity was attacked.

“The speaker of Russia’s lower house of parliament, Sergei Naryshkin, said Ukrainian radicals including the nationalist Pravy Sektor [Right Sector] group are pursuing ‘genocide’.”

Things may get a lot worse in Ukraine before they start getting worse

Among the recent indicators of how things are going, other than sporadic fighting and the U.S. State Department warning not to travel in Ukraine, are these:

  • Since mid-April, Kiev has been reducing the supply of fresh water to Crimea. Reportedly Kiev plans to cut off Crimea’s fresh water supply completely and has already begun building a dam for that purpose.

  • Russia says it’s pulling troops back from positions within 50 miles of the Ukrainian border, and the United States says no, they’re not, without producing any of the satellite evidence that everyone knows would settle the factual issue.

  • With a narrow strait from the Black Sea separating Crimea from mainland Russia, Crimea would be at continuing disadvantage with Ukraine as its only overland border state – except that now a Chinese state construction company has agreed to build a bridge between Crimea and Russia.

So why doesn’t the United States build more bridges, maybe even start at home?

William M. Boardman has over 40 years experience in theatre, radio, TV, print journalism, and non-fiction, including 20 years in the Vermont judiciary. He has received honors from Writers Guild of America, Corporation for Public Broadcasting, Vermont Life magazine, and an Emmy Award nomination from the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences.

Reader Supported News is the Publication of Origin for this work. Permission to republish is freely granted with credit and a link back to Reader Supported News.

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+16 # WBoardman 2014-05-10 10:45
OK, this if from InfoWars (Alex Jones), but it is also
consistent with core American behavior – the headline:

"CIA Death Squads Revealed in the Ukraine"

Unproved, perhaps unprovable (for now), but why not?
Whether its 3,000 CIA mercenaries as claimed, or
300, or three – is that any less credible than the
mechanized death squads the U.S. deploys in Yemen
and other defenseless places, calling them drones?

Here's the link from May 9:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEonzlP8u8s

The video runs almost 12 minutes,
the relevant part is from roughly 3:45 to 7:30
 
 
+8 # Radscal 2014-05-10 14:16
Thanks for another informative article, Mr. Boardman. And thank you for being open minded enough to consider Alex Jones as occasionally a source of valid information. His corporate media persona is certainly as a mad man, and he does come up with some pretty out-there theories, but he and his compadres certainly do uncover some very interesting and troubling facts.
 
 
+14 # Archie1954 2014-05-10 10:46
Fantastic article. It explains a lot.
 
 
+16 # akarpiej 2014-05-10 11:00
Excellent analytical piece of journalism by Boardman. Very valuable work.
 
 
+13 # dandevries 2014-05-10 11:14
Boardman is good.
 
 
+17 # reiverpacific 2014-05-10 11:30
"So why doesn’t the United States build more bridges, maybe even start at home?" (quote from article).
The US's history is one of destruction, not building -including at home- by the "Masters of War, who build to destroy" as Bobby D' wrote so long ago.
Just look at it's history of intervention in support of the right-wing factions in any conflict, many that the US instigated in the first place, to see what the true motives are on behalf of the corporate/milit ary overlords who call the shots!
 
 
0 # wrknight 2014-05-11 10:44
Which raises the question, who does the State Department really report to? The CIA clearly reports to the State Department and often provides cover for them (as well as the Defense Department), but the State Department hasn't reported to the President anytime in the last century. That it doesn't report to the President now is obvious from Kerry's actions which are clearly controlled from somewhere else. And it's also clear that the President has no control over the State Department. So who, exactly, are the puppet masters?
 
 
+18 # Activista 2014-05-10 12:05
WBoardman's in depth analysis of situation in Ukraine - against almost absurd USA media war propaganda/lies.
We do not have free press - we have totalitarian propaganda of the rullig class - the same goes for free elections -
 
 
+7 # bobaka 2014-05-10 12:22
Gadfly's we are and that's all. The reporting is excellent;the implication=imp otence in the face of the fascist putch.Oligarchs and fascists capitalists want to maintain their hideous systems and we commoners die in burning buildings. Fascist Obama and his Monsanto advisors have a slowly sickening population they have created that can hardly make it to the emergency room.You can take an 18 year old,raised on GMO's and propaganda, and he's still well enough for a while to do the Lord's bidding,before he returns with permanent stress disorders and depleted uranium sores.So, people your pervert leaders don't give a fuck whether we know what they do because we the people can't stop the process even with truthful words.
 
 
+1 # Douglas Jack 2014-05-10 21:16
bobaka, At any time through Mutual-Aid we can step off the Finance-Media-M ilitary-Industr ial-Legislative -Complex bus. India with Gandhi achieved independence through 'Swadeshi' (Hindi 'self-sufficien cy') making the British empire's corporations & products irrelevant. Humanity's indigenous ancestors worldwide practiced the 'Great-Law-of-P eace' really mutual-aid through multihome (Longhouse/apar tment, Pueblo/Townhous e & Kanata/village) living & inclusive welcoming economic participation in Production-Soci ety/Guilds. Are you taking steps of engaging your community in mutual-aid yourself? https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/home/2-mutual-aid
 
 
+7 # Douglas Jack 2014-05-10 12:25
Thanks WB for describing such a multi-faceted issue. Conflict is inevitable in human relations. Violence started in Ukraine in intellectual cowardice when the west rejects elections, opportunity for debate & bilateral relations through overthrow.

1) elected president Yanukovych scheduled early elections for parliament & presidency. US, Canada, NATO & Israel, Right Sector & Svoboda knew they couldn't win an election & acted in intellectual-co wardice by arming neo-NAZIs & violent overthrow.
2) the world knows USA is violently destabilizing / creating-hell in over 80 nations worldwide. Russia knows it can't allow US lawlessness on its doorstep. US knows from Nuclear detente that it's playing a nuclear war-game. Why would Right-Sector & Svoboda bring US launched nuclear war to Ukraine? Ignorant US war mongers & their trillionaire oligarch masters believe they can launch & win a nuclear war killing billions with 'Nuclear-Winter'.

All can invest in local businesses & organization, implement 'Dialectic-Righ ts' for everyone through stakeholder associations with the right to 'Debate' (French 'de' = 'undo' + 'bate' + 'the-fight'). Formal both-sided, equal-time, recorded & published debates can resolve these issues only when all of us everywhere are fully engaging our 'intelligence' (L 'inter' = 'between' + 'legere' = 'to-choose') with our fellows at every level of society. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues
 
 
+11 # Radscal 2014-05-10 14:28
The massacre in Odessa was worse than even RT or Mr. Boardman acknowledge.

The evidence seems clear that Right Sektor kill squads were already in the Trades Union House before the football hooligans drove the anti-coup Loyalists into their waiting, murderous arms.

There, people, including women and children were shot, beaten to death, strangled and burned to death with accelerant poured on their heads, but not burning the rest of their bodies.

Reports are that at least 116 bodies were counted in the upper floors by sympathetic rescuers before police and "national guard" took control of the crime scene (resulting in their report of perhaps 46 deaths, from smoke inhalation or burning). Survivors report that at least 100 others were taken to the basement where they were tortured and killed.

Between 200 and 300 people are missing.
 
 
+8 # geraldom 2014-05-10 15:57
Folks, the following website was given me by Radscal in a previous RSN article posting. It more than emphasizes that Radscal is not exxagerating about what happened in Odessa:

WARNING: Very graphic images of slaughtered humans:
http://ersieesist.livejournal.com/813.html

These are extremely graphic images to say the least, so be prepared. This is the current Ukrainian govt at work that our illustrious U.S. govt brought into power via an illegal U.S. perpetrated coup d'etat, a Ukrainian govt that Obama is fully backing and therefore must take full responsibility for the deaths shown on this website. Make sure that your children don't get a take on this website. It's not for their eyes.

Victoria Nuland was Obama's mouthpiece when she, in front of journalists, blamed the Ukrainian separatists, the victims, for being at fault for this crime against humanity. In other words, these Ukrainian separatists deserved what they got for actively showing their disdain for the illegitimate Ukraine government.

This wouldn't quite be equivalent to what fmr SOS Madeleine Albright stated when asked if the deaths of well over half-million Iraqi children under the age of 5 years in the 1990s and early 2000s as a result of the illegal and disastrous sanctions placed against Iraq was worth it, but it would come damn close. Her response was, "Yes." She eventually publicly apologized for that answer several years later, but I do believe she meant what she said the first time.
 
 
+4 # wrknight 2014-05-11 10:23
"...it seems safe to assume that Ukraine is not filled with peacemakers, although there seems to be a majority of Ukrainians ready to live peacefully if they’re just left alone". Unfortunately, it is the nature of politicians everywhere not to leave others alone.
 
 
+2 # geraldom 2014-05-11 15:08
I would like to see an independent and sovereign Ukraine that has no political or military ties to any other country, not to the U.S. or its military arm in Europe, NATO, or to Russia.

Unfortunately, under the current situation, Ukraine can never be an independent sovereign nation answerable only to itself and, most important of all, to its people, all its people, and no one else.

Here are the facts. Here's the reality of it all:

o The former legal govt of Ukraine under Yanukovych who won his position as PM in a legal, free, fair and honest election that was even blessed by the U.S. at the time, was illegally overthrown by a coup d'etat orchestrated, supported and funded by the United States.

o The U.S. replaced Yanukovych with its own puppet leader, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, who will represent U.S. interests as well as his own over that of his own people, the Ukrainian people. In effect, Ukraine has become a vassal state of the United States. It's independence is gone. The only thing that might prevent this is Russia, if it has the huevos to cut off the U.S. at the pass as that old saying goes. Either way, Ukraine will still not obtain its sovereignty or its independence.

Ukraine had more sovereignty and independence under Yanukovych than it could ever have now or in the future. It will be either under complete control by the United States via a puppet leader in Kiev, or it will be broken up into pieces, one or the other.
 
 
+3 # FDRva 2014-05-11 21:03
Anyone with an intelligence community background knows that the current gov't in Ukraine has its roots among Nazi collaborators of the 1940s.

And the US and British govt's and related media--who have supported these latter-day Ukrainian Nazis seem only interested in portraying Russia's Putin as the bad guy?

Putin is a tough old coot--but Cameron, Obama and the regime they installed in Kiev are the only players here who deserve to be called 'Nazi.'

I liked Barry Obama better before he sold his soul.
 
 
-3 # FDRva 2014-05-11 21:16
If my fellow ex-Chicagoan keeps this up--on top of the NSA illegalities he has condoned-- I strongly suspect there will be Democratic votes for any impeachment resolution offered.

Doing a Nixon is an option.

Biden would be a much better President than Ford could have been.
 
 
+3 # WBoardman 2014-05-12 13:23
Who is likely to offer an impeachment article?

And how likely is it that any Republican impeachment article
would include anything even a courageous Democrat would vote for?

It the US government pretty much at impasse?
And isn't the impasse likely to last for a long time,
quite possibly into the next presidency?
 
 
+1 # vladzo 2014-05-12 13:38
have you heard about the cleaning women in odessa? she was working in a government building and it was being guarded by some kind of blakwater mercenary. it was sundy, she went to her job on her day off because there is some unemployment and she was worried about keeping her job, and she was pregnant, and she went to her job to water the plants. the mercenary guard strangeled her to death with an electric cord. ? who are these guards ? who knos ? there are hundreds of such incidents. it is part of the CIA policy of destabilization . - vlad
 

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