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Galindez writes: "Here we are in 2013 and the out of touch, fanatical Tea Party wing of the Republican Party refuses to honor the results of the 2012 election."

President Obama's signature on the Affordable Care Act. (photo: unknown)
President Obama's signature on the Affordable Care Act. (photo: unknown)


The GOP Is Committing Treason

By Scott Galindez, Reader Supported News

29 September 13

 

2012 results

VOTES

% WON



Barack Obama

62,611,250

50.6%



Mitt Romney

59,134,475

47.8



Others

1,968,682

1.6


 

Results: 2008 

VOTES

% WON


Barack Obama

69,492,376

53.0%


John McCain

59,946,378

45.7


Others

1,703,390

1.3

n 2008, Barack Obama campaigned on reforming health care. He won. In 2012 he owned Obamacare and trumpeted it as his signature accomplishment. He won.

Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan, along with just about every Republican who entered the race for president in 2012, put repealing Obamacare at the center of their campaign. They fought over who would do it faster. They lost.

Here we are in 2013 and the out of touch, fanatical Tea Party wing of the Republican Party refuses to honor the results of the 2012 election. They are undemocratic radicals who would shut down the government to reverse the will of the American people.

The United States Senate, despite a grandstanding filibuster by a fanatical senator who thinks he and not John Boehner is the Speaker of the House, passed a bill that would keep the government open. Ted Cruz and his Kool-Aid drinking followers in the House were incapable of doing the responsible thing and sending the bill to President Obama. Instead they are holding our country hostage.

During a week when the presidents of Iran and Syria appeared to be rational and willing to negotiate, the Republican Party continued to be a fundamentalist, irrational regime that refuses to accept defeat.

Tea Party Republicans have a base of support that is whipped up into a frenzy and will not accept any form of surrender. They refused to accept that a black man could be elected president, and have committed themselves to making sure that President Obama is a failure, by any means necessary.

What they refuse to see is that if the president fails, we all fail. A government shut down - or worse, in default - would damage the economy at a time we can least afford it.

If the government shuts down because of attempted extortion by the GOP, the American people need to rise up and punish them in the 2014 election. They are putting politics ahead of country. It is time for the real patriots to stand up and vote out the undemocratic traitors who are committing treason in their effort to overturn the results of the last election.



Scott Galindez was formerly the co-founder of Truthout, and is now the Political Director of Reader Supported News.

Reader Supported News is the Publication of Origin for this work. Permission to republish is freely granted with credit and a link back to Reader Supported News.

 

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+159 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-09-29 13:11
The Republicans have several wars going on right now. 1. War against the middle class. 2. War gainst the poor. 3. War against minorities and especially expressed against Obama known as "black tracking. 4.War against Democracy. But, when have" the Republicans really ever been for Democracy? 5. War against themselves. Who the hell in their right mind would vote for their extreme nut bags?
 
 
+106 # NanFan 2013-09-29 15:35
War against women and human rights period!

These Republidumb-scu m need to be ousted. And quick. They should have been gone long ago, but corporate entities keep them well-feathered as long as they continue to do their bidding.

Disgusting is a mild word for the way I feel. I fear for our country, the least among us, who most certainly suffer from a shutdown for a long, long time.

Sickening!

N.
 
 
+33 # Laurenceofberk 2013-09-30 02:13
Certainly, I agree.

Now if you want to get rid of the Repuglicans, go out and start registering voters, NOW. Especially in poor and minority neighborhoods in swing districts. And keep them connected with a local progressive group.

We need a NATIONAL PROGRESSIVE COALITION to start a registration campaign right away.

The Repugs lost the popular vote for the House by over a million votes, but won the most seats through gerrymandering and voter suppression (and probably miscounting).

They'll do it again unless we register millions of new progressive voters. WHICH GROUP will start the coalition?
 
 
+39 # Floridatexan 2013-09-29 18:21
You forgot the war against women.
 
 
+54 # Floridatexan 2013-09-29 19:13
If people really understood how they were had by the Bush administration, there wouldn't be a single Republican in office today.
 
 
+27 # xavieronassis 2013-09-30 04:36
Charles Kuralt said, and I'm not sure I'm remembering his words exactly, but words to the effect of... What have the Conservatives ever really conserved, except their wealth.
It certainly hasn't been Democracy.
 
 
-1 # A_Har 2013-10-04 18:20
The GOP is committing treason but so is Obummer. Take a look at the TPP--the Trans Pacific Partnership.

We Are 90 Days Away from the Total Loss of US Sovereignty
http://thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/09/30/we-are-90-days-away-from-the-total-loss-of-us-sovereignty/

And what does that mean? It means that multinational corporations like Monsatan get to call the shots.

"The TPP Represents the Total Loss of US Sovereignty

The TPP is the brain child of the corporations. The TPP places all member nations directly under the control of the TPP instead of their respective national governments. Congress has been denied access to review any of the documents. Alan Grayson (D-FL) was granted a special exemption to view a small part of the TPP and he was told by TPP officials to keep his mouth shut as Grayson recalls that “They maintain that the text is classified information. I’m a member of Congress, but now they tell me that they don’t want me to talk to anybody about it because if I did, I’d be releasing classified information.” Do you realize what this means? The corporate controlled TPP has granted themselves the authority to exercise the governmental power of classifying documents and Congress is included in the exclusion. Do you understand that this means we are living in a corporate dictatorship? It gets even worse.
Meet Your New Government: Monsanto and Walmart"

The Dems too are bought and sold. If you think otherwise, you live in a fantasy world.
 
 
+138 # Barbara K 2013-09-29 13:11
That fanatical bunch of idiots should be charged with treason. It is treason to try to overthrow the government, as they are so blatantly trying to do. The disrespect they show our President makes them unfit to be in Congress. Kick these Republibaggers out of OUR Congress and charge them with treason, the entire lot are not serving us, they are a self-serving bunch of morons who hate the government, the President, the Country, and us. They don't deserve to be in our Government. VOTE THEM OUT! VOTE THEM OUT WHILE WE STILL CAN VOTE! They are even trying to take away that right. This whole lot should be censured and thrown out of Congress. The way they were boozing it up in the House of Reps last night is a disgrace to the entire country. Check this out:

GOP Boozing It Up on House Floor While Voting for Shutdown

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-64 # DaveM 2013-09-29 13:36
Congress is the Legislative Branch of the government. The President leads the Executive Branch. The two are separate as part of the "checks and balances" process spelled out in the United States Constitution.

To my knowledge, all of the current members of Congress were legitimately elected, and some were elected by people who oppose the President. If they act according to the principles they proclaimed while running for office, they are doing their jobs. That is most definitely not treason--quite the opposite.

We have an election coming up next year and those of us who are not happy with the job Congress is doing will be free to elect different people. I, for one, definitely plan to do so.
 
 
+99 # Old Man 2013-09-29 14:40
Well if you live in Texas you can help by voting Cruz out of office.
 
 
+64 # Eldon J. Bloedorn 2013-09-29 14:51
TO: DaveM
"If they act according to the principles they proclaimed while running for office, they are doing their jobs."George Bernanrd Shaw:"the longer I'm here, the more I think this planet is used as an asylum for the insane."
 
 
+60 # Jim Young 2013-09-29 15:01
Quoting DaveM:
...To my knowledge, all of the current members of Congress were legitimately elected, and some were elected by people who oppose the President...


With ALEC lead voter suppression, Gerrymandering with the big push in the 2010 census impacting "election", "primarying" of candidates in abuses of the processes we use by all corrupt means possible, and the farce of a recall election in Colorado where I believe the normal 70% voting by mail-in ballot was totally screwed up so almost none (perhaps none at all were counted), I think you need to reevaluate "legitimately elected."

Note that Colorado may not have been deliberately screwed up and I have no problem with a properly run election with exactly the same net result. The screw ups in the election, if true, should nullify it simply because it was so badly conducted that most people appeared to have been unable to vote if they had wanted to. I can't see how it could have been claimed to have been a valid election.
 
 
+34 # Malcolm 2013-09-29 15:32
SO true, Jim! But truly, can anyone be certain that ANY elections, at least since e-voting became the m.o., have been valid?

I used to be the official election monitor in Josephine County, Oregon. Even our supposedly failsafe Vote By Mail is rife with problems: electronic vote counting that was impossible to check, potential for dominent heads of family to bully other family members into all voting his/her way, political activists volunteering to deliver others' ballots for them, absolutely no way to challenve/verif y vote counts-on and on. Perhaps the biggest weakness is that county officials have thousands of blank ballots in their control for weeks prior to what's still known as "election night". Ballots arrive weeks prior to this night, and crooked officials could, RELATIVELY EASILY, substitilute their own fake ballots for legitimate ones. No one will ever know.

Does anyone else live in a state in which they are confident their votes are accurately counted? If so, is this faith based, or can you please explain how your states' vote counting procedure works?

I was the Democratic Party's official election monitor, FWIW.
 
 
+15 # T4D 2013-09-29 19:58
Does anyone else live in a state in which they are confident their votes are accurately counted? If so, is this faith based, or can you please explain how your states' vote counting procedure works?

Check out Iowa's system. I have been working elections here for 50 years. Now we mark paper ballots and count them at each precinct by electronic scanners. Each precinct scanner is canvassed at the county seat within one week, The marked ballots are held at the county seat for one year. I have participated in two recounts, finding only voter marking errors.
 
 
+4 # Malcolm 2013-09-30 18:03
Glad it works well for you, T4D! I am not confident that ANY system that has electronic vote counting is failsafe, but hope i'm wrong.

Also, is there anyone at your county offices who could, like my county, substitute fake ballots for real ones? If they can do that, any recount you do isn't worth a thing, assuming there is no ID on the actual ballots, like here.

Thanks for your comments, and I hope your elections are fair and honest!

(I actually wrote a much longer comment a while ago, but my kindle managed to not send it to RSN, alas.
 
 
+7 # tpmco 2013-09-30 02:16
Great post, Malcolm--full of information and insight. Have you been in contact with Brad Freidman at BradBlog.com. Brad is very responsive to election-relate d issues and you two might have some interesting ideas to exchange.

I, too, live in Josephine County, and a weird thing happened in the Nov 2012 general election--I did not receive a ballot in the mail. That had never happened before. I went to the Courthouse and got a ballot, but I have no understanding of what went on in the county clerks office in order to issue me a ballot. I had to show a drivers license, but I don't know how the supposedly mailed ballot was cancelled or prevented from being counted. I contacted the US Postal service to register a complaint of undelivered mail, to which I received a phone call acknowledging receipt of the complaint with assurance of follow through from the USPS, but have received nothing since then from USPS.

Also, I am unclear if county vote totals are tested for repeatibility-- as in having multiple runs of the ballots through a scanner and the totals compared to insure accuracy of the count.

Thank you for your service to our community.
 
 
+3 # Malcolm 2013-09-30 17:28
Thanks, tpmco, and small world :)

As far as not getting a ballot, if someone else got it out of your mailbox or something, there are two ways that are SUPPOSED to make it impossible for the thief to vote using your ballot. Number one is that the signature on every "Secrecy Envelope" is compared with the signature on your original voter registration card (actually, the facsimile in the County Clerk's computer system). There are several people who do this, for a few days prior to election day right up until 8:00 pm that night. I seriously doubt that these folks are capable of spotting a good counterfeit signature, however.

Number two: all votes that arrive at the Clerk's office are entered, by name, into the Clerk's computer system. If two ballots with the name "tpmco" are found, the election staff is notified electronically, and the Clerk will contact you to verify that you voted. Perhaps you'll be asked to a come to his/her office to let them get a fresh signature. I'm not sure.

My wife and I also had a strange experience a few years ago. It was the year the Democratic majority State Legislature redrew all the district boundaries. She and I got ballots indicating that we were in different districts! I called Georgette Brown, who used to be Clerk and she told me that this "was impossible". I assured her it was NOT impossible. I showed her the two ballots. We looked at the new District maps, and it was impossible to accurately delineate the boundary lines
CONT'f
 
 
0 # tpmco 2013-10-03 02:29
Got it, Malcolm. And thanks again. @budget.net
 
 
+4 # Malcolm 2013-09-30 17:32
CONT'D
The district boundary actually runs m/l along our road, but doesn't follow it exactly, which seems to be the problem.
Georgette had to admit that it looked like the district line went through our king bed :) But she said she was "absolutely positive" it couldn't have happened more than the one time.

I checked with my neighbors, and several of them had also gotten the wrong ballots, but none, to my knowledge, had two different ballots sent to the same house!

By the time Georgette got this straightened out, my wife had the original bad ballot, plus two or three more; I told Georgette my hon was going to vote four times, which got her spitting mad, and she told me she would be "watching for her extra ballots." All in good fun, though; we used to float the Rogue with her every spring.
 
 
+1 # Malcolm 2013-09-30 18:00
oops; the first half of this post was lost somewhere in the ether. Rats, it was full down to about four words left!

anyway, thanks for the kind words.

There are two ways that SUPPOSEDLY keep someone from voting with the ballot that disappeared from the box. The first: lots of temps compare the signature on every "Secrecy Envelope" with the computer facsimile of the signature on your voter registration card. I'm not confident that any of these temps are handwriting experts, but they could probably spot a bad counterfeit signature.

Secondly, names on all the Secrecy envelopes are entered into the Clerk's computer system. If your name comes up twice, you'll get a call from the Clerk, in an effort to avoid a fraudulent ballot.

We had a strange experience a few years ago. My wife and I got ballots for two different Districts.

Georgette Brown, Clerk du jour, told us this was impossible. I went and showed here, and while there, we looked at the district maps. It was impossible to tell exactly where the boundary was.

I'll leave it at that; and just say "continued"
 
 
+9 # Cailleach 2013-09-29 16:26
We must not forget that the penalty for treason is hanging! Or is the country too wishy-washy to do that?
 
 
+17 # indian weaver 2013-09-29 17:45
I don't care how they die.
 
 
+1 # tpmco 2013-10-03 03:57
So long as they do.
 
 
+66 # MEBrowning 2013-09-29 15:03
It's one thing when legitimately elected lawmakers work cooperatively to keep the government moving along efficiently to "promote the general welfare" and "secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity."

But so-called Tea Partiers and other rightwing extremists have pledged *not* to work with their colleagues in congress, promising to shut the government down, without any possibility of compromise, if they don't get their way. "Their way" benefits a handful of ultra-wealthy power brokers while jeopardizing the lives and futures of a majority of Americans — millions of whom won't be old enough to vote for years.

Speaking of voting, Republican politicians across the country are introducing legislation in the states designed to make it harder to vote for Americans who do not march in lockstep with these fanatics. And a mostly corporate-owned media are doing their best to keep Americans ignorant and fearful so they'll continue to vote against their own best interests.

The Supreme Court also has "checks-and-bal ances" authority, but it's been packed with rightwing extremists whose judgments over more than a decade have largely benefited corporate fat cats and hurt millions of working and poor Americans.

I don't see a big difference between threatening to shut the government down without compromise, and overthrowing it. If that's not treason, it certainly isn't democracy.
 
 
+60 # Scott Galindez 2013-09-29 15:12
I have no problem with the House voting to repeal Obamacare. They need the President and the Senate to agree to accomplish that.

However holding the government hostage by not passing a simple resolution to keep the Government open while they work on a budget is un-democratic.
 
 
+3 # tpmco 2013-09-30 02:52
The Senate offered the compromise, to keep the debate open for another 6 weeks. The House countered with their demand for surrender Saturday night--more delay in the implementation of the Act.

However, I'm convinced that further debate is unnecessary--it would be as irrational as what has gone before. But, then again, it might scare a few more rats out of the woodpile, even though I think we've hit the the point of rapidly diminishing returns in identifying individual opponents.

Treason? Probably not.
 
 
+36 # kalpal 2013-09-29 15:21
Who voted for Republicans under the proviso that the GOP extort what it failed to win at the poll? Who voted for Republicans because they wanted the government shut down and the attendant massive costs that are entailed?
 
 
+38 # pbbrodie 2013-09-29 16:30
No, they are not doing their jobs. Their jobs do not entail trying to force the majority to bend to their will and damage the country in the process. Where in the world did you get the idea that this was okay?! We aren't talking about all of Congress here. We are talking about the House of Representatives .
 
 
+29 # liandro 2013-09-29 16:42
Dave, that's not quite true about the members being legally elected. The gerrymandering and redistricting that the red states did before the 2010 elections is under review by the Justice Department--lik ely some of that was unconstitutiona l (it was certainly unethical); if deemed as such, then I'm not sure what happens, but perhaps those elected from those illegally rendered districts may have their election tossed out.

And, in a lot of cases, the principles that a lot of these tea party jerks ran on are not at all what they are attempting now that they are in office. Many of them barely articulated any principles except opposition to Obama and the Democrats.

However, their actions, while loathsome, undemocratic, cruel, ignorant, and totally unclear on the concept of governance, are not legally treason. It's fair to say, though, that those actions are certainly unpatriotic.

The only answer is to vote them out of office. And while they are doing their best to lose the next election, never underestimate their ability to rise above all that, use their media machine, their corporate allies, and their wholly-owned 5 Supreme Court Justices, to blame it all on Obama and the left, and get re-elected. It could happen no matter how much pain they cost the country and their own constituents.
 
 
+2 # Malcolm 2013-09-30 17:46
Re "Dave, that's not quite true about the members being legally elected. The gerrymandering and redistricting that the red states did before the 2010 elections..."

I'll undoubtedly get lots of thumbs down for saying this, but it's not only the 'Thuglicans who are unethically gerrymandering. I'm not privy to what's going on in other states, but i can tell you that Oregon's Democratic Legislature made some extremely unlikely boundary changes a few years ago. I was the Fourth Congressional Delegate (to one of the all time great Congressmen, Peter DeFazio) when his district was drawn.

Just google "Gerrymandering in Oregon".

Here's just the first hit: http://www.prisonersofthecensus.org/news/2012/02/16/cc-or/

by Leah Sakala, February 16, 2012

as a critical step for improving Oregon‘s redistricting process. Ending prison-based gerrymandering in Oregon would bring the state’s redistricting process in line with both the state constitution and with the federal principle of “one person, one vote.”
 
 
+3 # bingers 2013-09-30 23:28
Both parties Gerrymander, but the Republicans do it to the Nth degree. They draw maps that look like Rorschach tests. And they draw them up in non census years which is supposedly illegal.
 
 
+25 # ericlipps 2013-09-29 17:00
Quoting DaveM:
Congress is the Legislative Branch of the government. The President leads the Executive Branch. The two are separate as part of the "checks and balances" process spelled out in the United States Constitution.

To my knowledge, all of the current members of Congress were legitimately elected, and some were elected by people who oppose the President. If they act according to the principles they proclaimed while running for office, they are doing their jobs. That is most definitely not treason--quite the opposite.

We have an election coming up next year and those of us who are not happy with the job Congress is doing will be free to elect different people. I, for one, definitely plan to do so.


It verges on treason when they say, as at least one top GOP'er reportedly has, that the party's "number-one priority" is to see President Obama "fail" in office.

Fail to pass specific measures, sure--but "fail" in general? That's obstructionism pure and simple, if not sabotage, and may meet the constitutional standard of "making war" against he U.S. government.
 
 
+12 # tref 2013-09-29 23:10
@DaveM

I agree with you that everyone should follow their principles. The Affordable Healthcare Act was passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the President. Therefore, unless during their campaigns, candidates told their potential constituents that they would not follow the law of the land if they disagreed with it, refusing to fund a program that is the law of the land is NOT acting “according to the principles they proclaimed while running for office.”
 
 
+3 # NOMINAE 2013-10-01 17:40
Quoting tref:
@DaveM
The Affordable Healthcare Act was passed by both houses of Congress and signed by the President. Therefore, unless during their campaigns, candidates told their potential constituents that they would not follow the law of the land if they disagreed with it, refusing to fund a program that is the law of the land is NOT acting “according to the principles they proclaimed while running for office.”


Unassailably correct. The confusion here over the term "Treason" is understandable, but it rests not in legal definition, but in misunderstandin g of what is going on.

The Tea Party, created, funded, and indoctrinated by Koch Brother "think tanks" by ALEC, and by Super Pacs funded by those same Kochs is a not-so-subtle bid to overthrow the entire American Government and form of Democracy.

Anyone who thinks I'm indulging in semantic hyperbole need look no further than the recent history of the State of Wisconsin.

Plotting, and actually attempting to overthrow the democratically elected Government of the U.S., and the Laws that it enacts, is not only sedition, but actual treason - by definition.

Those who think that the Tea Party is *ONLY* an aggregate of well intentioned, but poorly informed morons will not see the Big Picture for the Treason that it is.

Those able to see and understand the "Plan" set in motion during the Reagan Administration, and continuing to this very day, will have no descriptor available *but* treason.
 
 
+12 # bmiluski 2013-09-30 10:28
The Mitch O'Connell leader of the republican party commited treason the split second he stated that the republican's #1 priority was to make sure the Pres. Obama was a 1 term president....no t the economy (which at that time was on the brink of disaster)not unemployment ( from which even his own constituants were suffering....An yone who puts their party ahead of the welfare of this country is a TRAITOR. And that includes all of the bums that listen to and supported him.
 
 
+11 # Lgfoot 2013-09-30 10:37
Taking the economy down to benefit politically seems treasonous to me. We have 4 or 5 trillion in infrastructure needs that , if addressed would work us out of this Great Recession were mired in, but the Repugs won't do anything that might inure to Obama's credit, even if the country goes down the tubes as a result. How is this not treasonous?
 
 
+61 # pbitondo 2013-09-29 13:47
Is it possible for the American people to sue the house of Representative Republicans with a class action suit?
 
 
+17 # NanFan 2013-09-29 15:30
Quoting pbitondo:
Is it possible for the American people to sue the house of Representative Republicans with a class action suit?


Unfortunately, we can't sue our government because that is us, technically, but we can sue departments for "lack of ministerial duty." For instance, I am trying to get someone to sue the FDA for knowingly allowing US-blended tobacco products to be manufactured with the toxins they are. If I can get someone to do that, I in effect, am suing the government for allowing these products to be legal to "ingest," the way they are manufactured with 600 chemicals, many of which are banned from our buildings and elsewhere because of their toxicity.

Anyone know a gutsy lawyer? I can't get the ACLU to even look at it because they say it is "not a constitutional issue."

There's always a back-door way to sue "the government."

N.
 
 
+2 # bingers 2013-09-30 23:31
We can sue our governments if they agree to be sued, so if you could get Eric Holder on board to give his OK, sue the house obstructionist bastards for economic treason ad toss their ugly asses on a chain gang.
 
 
+8 # vitobonespur 2013-09-30 02:05
Sue them? To hell with that. Pack them all up and ship them to Gitmo as domestic terrorists.
 
 
+18 # Scott Galindez 2013-09-29 13:56
I was looking into the possibility of Knick fans bringing a class action suit against their owner. maybe we can find a lawyer to do both...
 
 
+63 # RicKelis 2013-09-29 14:14
It was predicable: if the Republicans did not accept the fact that their stance has become a liability to all concerned, especially to the American people, they would continue to tumble down the hole they have created. And so they've become the self-designated enemy of all those who did not agree with them, betraying trust and their oath to the Constitution, which is treason in the broader sense, and committing acts designed to create confusion and chaos --- in other words, becoming political, domestic terrorists. The inevitable outcome is that they will cease to exist as a political party. That's the way life works. It has happened before to this faction of the American system, back in the 1850s. The Whigs dissolved under similar circumstances: the inability to accept a fundamental American premise: that all are created equal, endowed with certain rights. The Whigs divided on the subject of equality of blacks to whites; today these Republican radicals refuse to accept the equality of anyone -- people of color, women, LGBT folks, and so on -- to white males. The party has doomed
itself. RIP Republican Party.
 
 
+23 # raclis 2013-09-29 17:01
It cannot happen soon enough!
 
 
+53 # NAVYVET 2013-09-29 14:18
The GOP leaders should be arrested and indicted for sedition.
 
 
+26 # Jim Young 2013-09-29 15:14
Quoting NAVYVET:
The GOP leaders should be arrested and indicted for sedition.


Sedition would actually be closer to correct than treason since it doesn't involve supporting an external enemy. Some of the sponsored garbage like the Hard Hat Riot might be considered sedition since it was internal, and involved more than legally valid dissent by constitutional means. Though apparently sponsored by unions, Nixon used hired "protestors" through various front groups (at least according to my brother-in-law who said he and friends were once hired for such work). Since I have little more to go on than word of mouth from my brother-in-law (now deceased) and some like a Naval Academy graduate who said his brother was similarly hired, I'll have to ask if others who were, are willing to come forward now.
 
 
+46 # suzyshrink 2013-09-29 14:25
The GOP is allowing itself to be dictated by a group of extremist and their extremism is creating a very dysfunctional Congress. By dysfunctional, I mean it is no longer serving the needs of the American people. I certainly hope that the general public "gets it" that the Tea Party is composed of "traitors"and does move toward putting them out of office.
 
 
+33 # reiverpacific 2013-09-29 14:33
These blinkered fucks have the same mindset as the Nazi's post WW11.
"Ve did not lose -ve came second"!!!!! "Sieg-Heil, Seig-Heil, Seig Heil! -and in that order"!
"Ve vill still destroy you"!
 
 
+40 # GravityWave 2013-09-29 14:56
It looks to me like these House Reps. are definitely quilty of, at least, sedition. And since many of them are from districts that have been gerrymandered, I don't think they are even entitled to sit in Congress. Treason appears to be "violation of allegiance to one's sovereign", "levying war against one's State", "terrorism". Yes they are ignorant but that is no excuse for betraying our Constitution and the majority of Americans. They are violating the "public peace" and our economy and standing in the world.

This is surely enough to censor their behavior on ethical and lawful grounds and void any bills they have passed. They are playing with fire at this point and I can't say how disgusted I am with people whose objective is to make our President fail on the basis of race (how wrong is that?), trying to limit and restrict the half of voters who are women and keep minorities from being able to vote, and attempting to ruin our economy and standing in the whole rest of the world.
 
 
+33 # sjporter 2013-09-29 15:27
Not only did 'the American people' (the term the Republicans like to use) re-elect President Obama by a significant margin, but more votes were cast for Democrats in Congress; a Democratic majority was thwarted by the tactics described above by Jim Young.

I agree that this is undermining democracy - and taking with it our economic standing in the world. Interest rates would soar because we'd no longer have our excellent credit rating.

And speaking of treason, I believe that signing Grover Norquist's tax pledge AND many Republicans also signing the Koch brothers' obstructionist pledge on Climate action are treason. Elected members of Congress swear a pledge to the United States and our Constitution, and we all understand that they also represent their constituents, but signing away one's loyalty to Norquist or the Kochs/big fossil fuel smacks of treason to me.
 
 
+19 # Unicorn144 2013-09-29 15:22
RicKelis 2013-09-29 12:14
It was predicable: if the Republicans did not accept the fact that their stance has become a liability to all concerned, especially to the American people, they would continue to tumble down the hole they have created. And so they've become the self-designated enemy of all those who did not agree with them, betraying trust and their oath to the Constitution, which is treason in the broader sense, and committing acts designed to create confusion and chaos --- in other words, becoming political, domestic terrorists. The inevitable outcome is that they will cease to exist as a political party. That's the way life works. It has happened before to this faction of the American system, back in the 1850s. The Whigs dissolved under similar circumstances: the inability to accept a fundamental American premise: that all are created equal, endowed with certain rights. The Whigs divided on the subject of equality of blacks to whites; today these Republican radicals refuse to accept the equality of anyone -- people of color, women, LGBT folks, and so on -- to white males. The party has doomed
itself. RIP Republican Party.
 
 
+22 # heraldmage 2013-09-29 15:33
If they shut down the government they shouldn't expect to receive their paycheck or benefits.
If domestic programs like education, Medicare, Food Stamps, unemployment, mortgage assistance etc are out of money funds should be transferred from already funded programs like the State Department, CIA, Homeland Security, NSA & Defense Department. We don't need to waste taxpayer money fighting wars against people who haven't attacked the USA, assassinat innocent people with drone, providing foreign aid or increase Israel's aid or waste billions collecting private digital correspondence on the everyone everywhere, while US citizens are starving & homeless. Congress must pass legislation to diverted funds from funded programs, but not from the SS trust lock box, to take care for the needs of the people & our troops Everything else can wait until Congress does its job & passes a budget & extends the debt limit or orders the treasury to print treasury notes which are not borrowed from the banks. The American people want the Affordable Care Act funded. Now do your job or be prepare to find a new one in 2015.
 
 
+20 # Vardoz 2013-09-29 15:45
The ability to destroy the world economy should not be in the hands of the senate or Congress. It is too significant to be so vulnerable to blackmail and treason.
 
 
+30 # angelfish 2013-09-29 15:50
FINE! Oppose the President, HOWEVER, you DON'T crash the full faith and credit of the United States because you don't support him! The people SPOKE, loud and clear when they voted for this President not once, but TWICE! There are channels to go through to repeal a Law you don't like. The Affordable Care Act was APPROVED by Congress, Validated by THEIR (Tea Party's and Big Business's)Supr eme Court and signed into Law. Crashing the economy is NOT how Americans govern! This Tea Party Crew are like our very own, private AlQueda who use terrorism to twist people's arms and jam their agenda down the throats of a majority that DOESN'T want it! DaveM is right about one thing, VOTE the Bast*rds OUT at the Mid-Term!
 
 
+25 # heraldmage 2013-09-29 15:51
In a democracy or our Representative Republic the majority rule.
The majority of USA citizens voted for President Obama against a GOP platform to repeal the Affordable Care Act.
Its time Congress stopped acting like spoiled cildren and excepted the will of the people.
Shutting down the government is like the spoiled kid taking the ball & leaving because he didn't get his way.
I thought we elected adults to Congress but apparently we didn't. Therefore if they continue with their demands to defund the ACA for 1 year or shut the government down, I say SHUT IT DOWN because we don't negotiate with terrorist. Then "We the People" must make sure that every elected officials who supported the shut down is looking for a new job after the 2014 election.
 
 
+1 # Cailleach 2013-09-29 16:41
Well, RSN didn't like my comment and erased it. It pointed out the traditional punishment for treason. I won't re-post it, but I think anyone with some knowledge of history knows it. If not, I suggest googling it.
 
 
+12 # indian weaver 2013-09-29 17:52
Your original posting about a conviction for treason requires hanging the traitor is posted above now as I write.
 
 
+4 # janla 2013-09-29 19:48
It was posted.
 
 
-3 # Malcolm 2013-09-30 17:47
Mommy RSN wouldn't want you to offend anyone, now would they?
 
 
+3 # Malcolm 2013-09-30 17:48
oops; looks like they reinstated it, or you just THOUGHT they erased it.

They have erased my comments, on rare occasions.
 
 
+14 # Annietime13 2013-09-29 17:04
Dear Scott

Think you have a typo here;
"Ted Cruz and his Kool-Aid drinking followers in the House"

Surely you mean;
Ted Cruz and his KOHL -Aid Drinking followers in the House ?
 
 
+7 # Scott Galindez 2013-09-29 17:53
Good one!
 
 
+12 # indian weaver 2013-09-29 17:42
And this is why Civil Wars happen. Coming to a neighborhood near you soon. You are tuned in and staying on this channel, whether you like it or not, darn.
 
 
+12 # Richard1908 2013-09-29 19:04
We have a reasonably good National Health Service in Australia but I think Americans would call it COMMUNIST. If that was really the case I'd rather die than be state-funded healthy :-}
 
 
+14 # Texas Aggie 2013-09-29 19:15
This is but a minor example of treason. There are much more explicit examples of how these people have attacked the very basis of what America stands for and what it means.
 
 
+11 # Rick Levy 2013-09-29 19:35
I thought that only hijackers use hostage taking to get their way politically, but that would mean comparing tea party rethuglicans to such terrorists, wouldn't it? Well if the shoe fits...
 
 
+13 # SandyCook 2013-09-29 20:20
Someone finally called it what it is!

If treason is defined as "a violation of the allegiance owed by somebody to his or her own country", then the Republican Party in Congress is committing treason.

This goes beyond being just plain sore losers.

The American people spoke in 2012, and now the Republican Party in Congress is presenting every item in their losing argument in 2012 as their non-negotiable conditions for not shutting down the government of the United States.

They are not opposing President Obama, they are "in violation of the allegiance owed by somebody to his or her own country", which means they are opposing all of us, their fellow citizens.

This goes beyond shame. This deserves litigation.

S Cook
 
 
+10 # jimbo 2013-09-29 20:45
I have thought for a while there is evidence to believe we are in the midst of a coup attempt, so the actions by the tea party republicans are no surprise. I think there is evidence that these morons are all in, that if they don't succeed they are done. If the country survives and they begin rounding up the treasonous participants I hope they strongly consider starting with the five on the supreme court. You know I was supposedly very close to at least one of them a few years ago, while I was protesting the kochx bros retreat in Rancho Mirage. Anyway, I may be known for using the word 'stupid' to describe republicans. The shared article makes the case that what is happening is treason.
 
 
-1 # Annietime13 2013-10-02 09:11
[quote name="jimbo"] "If the country survives and they begin rounding up the treasonous participants I hope they strongly consider starting with the five on the Supreme Court "

YES, Jimbo

THIS IS THE BELLY OF THE BEAST !
 
 
+9 # Exotikat 2013-09-29 22:21
Coincidentally, I was having a similar conversation with a couple of people today about this very topic. The dedicated and indefatigable drive to take down this president, and to use any means available to hobble the US and the world economy as a means of extortion is not just unpatriotic, it's treasonous. At which point do the rest of us unwillingly traveling in this criminal enterprise stand up and say "Enough!"
 
 
+11 # mfiman 2013-09-29 22:40
If a candidate for office runs on a platform that says, if elected, he will commit a crime (whether that crime be treason, sedition, or even a bank robbery), and he gets elected because his constituents want him to commit the crime...that does not make it legal for him to carry out the crime.
 
 
0 # Milarepa 2013-09-30 00:26
Is that really Obama's signature at the top? If so where are the expert graphologists and psychiatrists to give us interesting interpretations ? I'm developing my own but rather leave this to experienced professionals.
 
 
0 # tigerlille 2013-09-30 10:36
Yes, Obama's signature shocked me as well, and I would find a graphologist's analysis fascinating. I know a little about handwriting analysis, and I see inflated ego loud and clear. But the juxtaposition of the capitol O over lower case b and a is quite unique. I have some preliminary thoughts, but this is not my area of expertise.
 
 
-13 # RightForAReason 2013-09-30 10:25
Spending bills originate in the House. Republicans won the majority of elections for the House. The members of the House are entitled to their own goals and agenda as much as the Senate or the President. They are entitled to defend the beliefs of the people who elected them. That is part of the purpose of representative government.

The House passed a bill that would keep the government open. Everything except to provide funding to implement ObamaCare, something riddled with exemptions for legions of politically well connected. Obama refuses to talk to the House, not the other way around. Reid refuses any negotiation. They and their surrogates are quick to call Republicans whatever names they can to demonize them and make them less than human. It is far easier to call someone names than actually debate issues with facts and logic. Makes for better sound bites also.

It isn't about race, it is about stupid government policies and programs that will bankrupt our country. It isn't extortion, it is politics. And all of the numbskulls in Congress took all of August off, wasting time, bringing us to the brink. There is plenty of blame.
 
 
+11 # Scott Galindez 2013-09-30 12:41
There is plenty of evidence that the GOP was the party not willing to negotiate. Obama reached out often, to the point where his base criticized him for not standing up to the Republicans.The Democrats have caved often, while the Republicans have not.
 
 
+5 # photojack53 2013-09-30 18:42
I DETEST the way John Boehner, Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, Eric Cantor and the rest are trying to SCREW the American public. They can't defy their own constituent's best interests and expect to stay in office.
My solution is to IMPEACH them or remove them from office any way possible for VIOLATING their oath of office! Like with background checks for gun purchases, when 90% of ALL Americans and even 74% of NRA MEMBERS want this and their elected politicians deny the wishes of the electorate, they are not doing their duty to represent the people! They violated their oaths of office, plain and simple. We have solutions in place to deal with this! Write and sign petitions to remove these UNCONSCIONABLE fools, NOW!
 
 
+4 # photojack53 2013-09-30 18:41
I DETEST the way John Boehner, Ted Cruz, Mitch McConnell, Eric Cantor and the rest are trying to SCREW the American public. They can't defy their own constituent's best interests and expect to stay in office.
My solution is to IMPEACH them or remove them from office any way possible for VIOLATING their oath of office! Like with background checks for gun purchases, when 90% of ALL Americans and even 74% of NRA MEMBERS want this and their elected politicians deny the wishes of the electorate, they are not doing their duty to represent the people! They violated their oaths of office, plain and simple. We have solutions in place to deal with this! Write and sign petitions to remove these UNCONSCIONABLE fools, NOW!
 
 
-9 # DeserveLiberty 2013-09-30 19:43
As usual, the "liberal" plays the race card, claiming that the TEA party objection to Obama is about race when this is only an overused political canard. It is very juvenile to continue that worn out smear.
 
 
+5 # bingers 2013-09-30 23:38
Don't you mean Koch Aid? Quoting DeserveLiberty:
As usual, the "liberal" plays the race card, claiming that the TEA party objection to Obama is about race when this is only an overused political canard. It is very juvenile to continue that worn out smear.


Have you not seen the blatantly disgusting posters the Tea Twits bring to their functions? Probably there are many non racist teabaggers exist, but overall it is without a doubt a racist organization.
 
 
+4 # olpossum 2013-10-02 07:44
Don't be too rough on them, guys, they're only doing what they're ordered, by their billionaire sugar-daddies, to do. And failing to follow orders would get them elbowed, most roughly, away from the trough. And as it stands, they're enriching themselves, and that's really all that matters to these "statesmen", not some slob in a flyover state that wants medical care, or a living wage, or freedom from having a gun pointed, or fired, at them, or justice. This country is doomed.
 
 
-1 # Annietime13 2013-10-02 08:57
Dear Malcolm,

As to your missile being lost
Perhaps you should have a
Kohl-Aid
And wait for the next time
N S A
"Calls"
 
 
-1 # John S. Browne 2013-10-02 21:13
Quote: "The GOP is committing treason." End quote.

So is the Democratic Party.
 

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