O'Shaughnessy writes: "To the judicious and fair-minded outsider it has been clear for years that the upper reaches of the Argentine church contained many 'lost sheep in the wilderness'."
Newly elected Pope Francis, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio, appears on the balcony of St. Peter's Basilica, 03/13/13. (photo: Max Rossi/Reuters)
Was Bergoglio Complicit in Argentina's Dirty War?
13 March13
enedict XVI gave us words of great comfort and encouragement in the message he delivered on Christmas Eve.
"God anticipates us again and again in unexpected ways," the pope said. "He does not cease to search for us, to raise us up as often as we might need. He does not abandon the lost sheep in the wilderness into which it had strayed. God does not allow himself to be confounded by our sin. Again and again he begins afresh with us".
If these words comforted and encouraged me they will surely have done the same for leaders of the church in Argentina, among many others. To the judicious and fair-minded outsider it has been clear for years that the upper reaches of the Argentine church contained many "lost sheep in the wilderness", men who had communed and supported the unspeakably brutal Western-supported military dictatorship which seized power in that country in 1976 and battened on it for years. Not only did the generals slaughter thousands unjustly, often dropping them out of aeroplanes over the River Plate and selling off their orphan children to the highest bidder, they also murdered at least two bishops and many priests. Yet even the execution of other men of the cloth did nothing to shake the support of senior clerics, including representatives of the Holy See, for the criminality of their leader General Jorge Rafael Videla and his minions.
As it happens, in the week before Christmas in the city of Córdoba Videla and some of his military and police cohorts were convicted by their country's courts of the murder of 31 people between April and October 1976, a small fraction of the killings they were responsible for. The convictions brought life sentences for some of the military. These were not to be served, as has often been the case in Argentina and neighbouring Chile, in comfy armed forces retirement homes but in common prisons. Unsurprisingly there was dancing in the city's streets when the judge announced the sentences.
What one did not hear from any senior member of the Argentine hierarchy was any expression of regret for the church's collaboration and in these crimes. The extent of the church's complicity in the dark deeds was excellently set out by Horacio Verbitsky, one of Argentina's most notable journalists, in his book El Silencio (Silence). He recounts how the Argentine navy with the connivance of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, now the Jesuit archbishop of Buenos Aires, hid from a visiting delegation of the Inter-American Human Rights Commission the dictatorship's political prisoners. Bergoglio was hiding them in nothing less than his holiday home in an island called El Silencio in the River Plate. The most shaming thing for the church is that in such circumstances Bergoglio's name was allowed to go forward in the ballot to chose the successor of John Paul II. What scandal would not have ensued if the first pope ever to be elected from the continent of America had been revealed as an accessory to murder and false imprisonment
One would have thought that the Argentine bishops would have seized the opportunity to call for pardon for themselves and put on sackcloth and ashes as the sentences were announced in Córdoba but that has not so far happened.
But happily Their Eminences have just been given another chance to express contrition. Next month the convicted murderer Videla will be arraigned for his part in the killing of Enrique Angelelli, bishop of the Andean diocese of La Rioja and a supporter of the cause of poorer Argentines. He was run off the highway by a hit squad of the Videla régime and killed on 4th August 1976 shortly after Videla's putsch.
Cardinal Bergoglio has plenty of time to be measured for a suit of sackcloth – perhaps tailored in a suitable clerical grey - to be worn when the church authorities are called into the witness box by the investigating judge in the Angelelli case. Ashes will be readily available if the records of the Argentine bishops' many disingenuous and outrightly mendacious statements about Videla and Angelelli are burned.
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You're right,though, Let him who is without sin cast the first stone, though I'm afraid that wisdom will fall on deaf ears.
Isn't that what Jesus would expect from Bergoglio for hiding political prisoners from a human rights commission on church property?
I always wondered what happened to him.
Interesting, I'm not sure you know how to read.
I am old enough to remember when there were only whispers about improprieties. Priests disappeared or were transferred or went away on extended retreats, alcohol rehab, etc. The wisdom and general knowledge of the day said such people chose to act badly and could still make good choices. Another chance was often given. Later, young people came forward to tell the truth about their experience and its aftermath. The damage was done. The Church funded counseling for the damaged victims and to make a new start somewhere else.
I spoke with my brother, an ordained priest in good standing, and expressed my concern as the bad press began. I told him I was sure the numbers were out of context and did not indicate a widespread problem. He said much more would come out and that it would include some officials who had covered up atrocities back in the day.
And contrary to your statement, the CC did NOT "fund counseling for the damaged victims." The CC did everything it could to deny that anything had ever happened and humiliated the victims in court when they tried to bring the CC to justice. Bernard Law was only one of many who deliberately attacked the victims and protected the perpetrators.
And so it came to pass. It also came to pass that reports came out that teachers, scout leaders, faith leaders of all denominations, counselors, etc., had similar problem patterns. Psychological research supported the view that pedophilia, etc., were intractable major psychological disfunctions with high recidivism, no matter what was tried to remediate the problem.
Many good priests were tarred with a broad brush and tainted because of others' abuse, casting a pale over their relations with their congregations and the youngest parishioners.
The Church in America responded appropriately with continued extensive training of all who work with youth on watching for, reporting concerns, and properly teaching youth. Much as schools have mandated reporters, every teacher/volunte er/staff member who is in a position to observe a problem is required to report.
No, St. Francis was perhaps the purer saint ever. He didn't even want to form an order. But Pope Francis probably took his name from Francis Xavier, co-founder of the Jesuit order, who was a missionary in India. If that is the case, Pope Francis will want to seek converts in more places in the world and go against the evangelicals in Latin American who are making great inroads.
Please do some studying before you pontificate.
The Church is built of human beings trying to be better than they are. Can you say the same for yourself or are you just focusing on other people's failings???
Therefore to say that the RCC "teaches compassion, forgiveness, personal responsibility, social conscience, doing one's best, living the examined life" is an error. The RCC doesn't even begin to act like that. Have they paid anything to the survivors of the Magdalene Sisters in Ireland? No, they haven't and are arguing vociferously that they shouldn't have to.
It would have been great if the men of the church REALLY lived THE EXAMINED LIFE.
Instead they abused the weak and lied about it. The higher ups swept it all under the rug, by moving the pedophiles
around the country and sent some of them to Rome, where they lived in the lap of luxury.
Humanity's worldwide universal 'indigenous' (L 'self-generatin g') peoples understand the importance of building connected multihome dwellings (mound-cities, longhouse or pueblo multihome structures) similar to today's apartment & townhouse structures where women & men, young & old collaborate across generations, each with complementary talents & goods. Churches, Mosques, Synagogues & Temples tax popular mind & resources away from complementary relations. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/relational-economy/extending-our-welcome-participatory-multi-home-cohousing
Time-based human resource accounting in specialized Production Societies using string-shells for capital (ownership), currency (money), condolence (social-securit y), collegial education (mentored apprenticeship) , communications etc enabled inclusive welcoming relational economy for all. Women recognized within Production Society accounting for their specific gifts to family & community brings female intelligence to economy & politics. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/relational-economy
You misunderstand Church teaching. It's not all about doing what feels good. It's about doing what's right. Waiting til a committed relationship can lead to monogamous marriage where time and attention can result in greater understanding, bonding, conscientious child raising. In the meantime, abstinence is a good plan. Natural family planning is a way to cooperate with God in the creation of children.
As far as children suffering, my children and grands will pay for what's happened under Obama and our mostly complicitous Congress!
Our indigenous Celtic ancestors before the violent Roman Christian invasion & oppression, lived together in Multihome communities where recognition for all contributions & intergeneration al mutual-aid gave us 100 times better results than abstract institutional teachings.
Obama is only a distraction from the joy of meeting our essential services together. We are the ones we have been waiting for. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/9-do-we-know-who-we-are
Not only were priests and bishops becoming wealthier, they were becoming worldier. Many were married, others just had “open marriages” -- concubines. Worse than that -- in the church’s eyes -- the priests and bishops begetting sons regarded the endowments being made to the church as personal property. So the same rollicking clerics were setting themselves up as landed gentry and passing the fortunes along to their primogenitor sons and heirs....And not the church. The church was losing lots and lots of money.
As usual, the women were blamed. Concubines were ordered scourged. Effectively though, the idea of priestly celibacy was in -- though not universally welcomed among the clerics themselves. And handing over church money to sons of priests and bishops was out.
Yes because being able to get medical coverage even though you have a previous condition is so very much like being raped.
Maybe they're low on minutes? Those charges for going over your limit are a bitch.
father always said the priest was there for an extra 20 or 50 in his hand.
Just as an experiment, try doing some spiritual reading and see whether you feel the same way.
SPIRITUALITY - The search for enlightenment/knowledge.
RELIGION - The search for reward.
My God is so close to me that IT knows my relationship to ITSELF. No unmarried man can ever understand that relationship.
This thinking person has a BA, MA and certifications and stands firmly in support of the Church with hope for more growth under the leadership of our new Pope whose first words were of healing and collegiality with members of the Church.
Seriously, you're trying to compensate for poor argumentation skills by deflecting. The number of degrees or amount of education you have is irrelevant to the accuracy or strength of the points you are attempting to make.
BTW: Albert Einstein had a fairly good education and intellect. He also made his share of errors e.g. cosmological constant and was also quite a humble fellow (a trait you might find worth emulating).
During humanity's indigenous period youth were facilitated to go on 'Vision-quests' finding their gifts for 'community' (L 'com' = 'together' + 'munus' = 'gift or service'). Youth would align with specialized Production Societies or Guilds and while contributing to economic life, be mentored to develop their gifts. Time-based human resource capital (share) accounting within Production Societies gave recognition to the knowledge cycle each person's contributions, experience, expertise & decision-making accumen.
https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/structure/8-vision-quest-education
Now its time one of the richest religions be held accountable for their sins.
The God Delusion - Richard Dawkins
The Moral Landscape - Sam Harris
The Greatest Show On Earth - Dawkins
God Is Not Great - Christopher Hitchens
The Blind Watchmaker - Dawkins
The End Of Faith - Harris
God And The Folly of Faith - Victor Stenger
Caveman Logic - Hank Davis
Demon-Haunted World - Carl Sagan
A Universe From Nothing - Lawrence Krauss
But, since the new Pope, the former Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio--was an outspoken opponent of International Monetary Fund austerity looting of the Third World--that places him well to the left of President Obama on economic issues.
The Vatican did not bailout Wall Street's thieves. Presidents Bush and Obama wrote those blank checks.
This suggests that Obama--is a fascist--just with more military power--and less moral power than the new Pope.
The Pope, after all, has no drones at his command.
http://dailycurrant.com/2013/03/04/catholic-church-blasted-lack-jewish-popes/
P.S. Turn on snarkmeter before reading.
The social doctrine of the Church from Leo XIII to Paul VI to John Paul II is a helluva lot more economically progressive than the Obama-era Democratic Party.
John Paul's newly elected successor, the former Cardinal Bergoglio of Argentina-- unlike our "progressive" President Obama--has at least had the decency to denounce International Monetary Fund looting economics--that enriches London & Wall Street--while impoverishing millions of others.
And speaking of glass houses, Sens. Paul (R) and Wyden (D) among others, in the recent filibuster made a pretty good case that Pres. Obama --like his cousin Cheney--is not above a 'dirty war' against US citizens, should it suit his short-term ends.
But much of the GOP is willing to give Wall Street more bailout dollars than even the compliant Wall Street creation Obama has funneled their way.
And many GOPers would have voted for Stalin if he had told them what they wanted to hear about abortion.
I like the Clintons, but despise Gore as a Green phony from Wall Street.
Messrs Cuccinelli and MacAuliffe are well known to me.
I do not think Virginia will disintegrate if either is the next Governor,
I consider them both friends. I may be the last undecided voter in VA--if recent polls are to be trusted.
Haught averred that "cardinals, archibishops, abbots, bishops, priests and monks kept concubines, pocketed church wealth, waged armed vendettas, and grew rich through simony, the selling of church offices and acts." And according to Pope Innocent III, "all of them, from the highest to the lowest, do as it is said in the prophets: They are enthralled to avarice, love presents, and seek rewards; for the sake of bribes, they pronounce the godless righteous..."
My brothers and sisters... is there anything new?
Is everyone here so righteous and pharisaical as to condemn others?
I signed onto this site because of this level of hatred and to balance it out with some truth. I searched online for some backup to what is being said here. What I could find was that silence was the greatest sin. But, I was not there. I don't know the whole picture.
What I do know is that we in this country are greedy, selfish, with a 'winner-take-al l' mindset. We do not care for the hungry, the poor, the sick.
My gramma had a saying:
'the sin of all you sinners doesn't definately damn; for your wasness doesn't matter if your isness really am'.
Please, people, go pick on another Church. How about Judism? Mormanism? Islam? Are they all perfect?????
No they are not perfect. But this article is NOT about them, its about Catholicism. And so that's what we are discussing.
What do you mean all religions aren't perfect....they are perfectly ridiculous.
I stand corrected.
He upbraided the present Argentine government for its treatment of the poor, but then he was running no personal risk when he did it. It is understandable that he was unwilling to speak out against the behavior of the Argentine military dictatorship because they had a record of disappearing people who didn't toe the line.
What do you mean the Pope has no drones? What do you call the Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops, priest and the 1.2 billion laity that don't acknowledge the horrors perpetuated on nonbelievers of your religion? Don't question, just follow the rules and believe...sound s like drones to me.
here are the links to
doc translated: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/17/pope-francis-first-sunday-prayer
the original: http://www.pagina12.com.ar/diario/elpais/1-215961-2013-03-17.html
interview in english of award-winning journalist who found the doc in the argentinian gov's archives: http://www.democracynow.org/2013/3/14/pope_francis_junta_past_argentine_journalist
more in english: http://morallowground.com/2013/03/17/smoking-gun-memo-proves-pope-francis-collaborated-with-argentine-dirty-war-regime/
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