Hartmann and Sacks write: "It's about time someone injected the word fascism back into our political debate. Especially now that corporations wield more power today than they have in America since the Robber Baron Era."
Whole Foods CEO John Mackey. (photo: Whole Foods Markets)
Dear Whole Foods CEO, This Is What a Fascist Looks Like
20 January 13
hole Foods CEO, John Mackey, doesn't know what a fascist is.
Speaking with NPR this week, multimillionaire Mackey tried to express how much he hates Obamacare. Back in 2009, he hated Obamacare so much that he called it "socialism." But now, in 2013, Mackey thinks Obamacare is "fascism."
"Technically speaking, [Obamacare] is more like fascism," he said. "Socialism is where the government owns the means of production. In fascism, the government doesn't own the means of production, but they do control it, and that's what's happening with our healthcare programs and these reforms."
Mackey has since walked back this description saying he "regrets using that word now" because there's "so much baggage attached to it."
But, whether Mackey meant to or not, it's about time someone injected the word fascism back into our political debate. Especially now that corporations wield more power today than they have in America since the Robber Baron Era.
First, let's take on Mackey's definitions of socialism and fascism, which he likely procured from the Google machine after typing in, "What are the differences between socialism and fascism?"
Yes, socialism encourages more democratic control of the economy. Or, if Mackey insists, more government ownership of the economy – in particular, ownership of the commons and natural resources.
Fascism, on the other hand, is something completely different. Reporter Sy Mukherjee, who blogged about this story over at ThinkProgress.org notes, "Although fascist nations do often control their 'means of production,' Mackey seems to have forgotten that they usually utilize warfare, forced mass mobilization of the public, and politically-motivated violence against their own peoples to achieve their ends."
The 1983 American Heritage Dictionary defined fascism as: "A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism." Fascism originated in Italy, and Mussolini claims to have invented the word itself. It was actually his ghostwriter, Giovanni Gentile, who invented it and defined it in the Encyclopedia Italiana in this way: "Fascism should more appropriately be called corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power."
In other words, fascism is corporate government – a Libertarian's wet dream. It's a government in which the Atlas's of industry are given free rein to control the economy, just how they're regulated, how much they pay in taxes, how much they pay their workers. It should be noted here that, ironically, John Mackey describes himself as a Libertarian.
In 1938, Mussolini finally got his chance to bring fascism to fruition. He dissolved Parliament and replaced it with the "Camera dei Fasci e delle Corporazioni" - the Chamber of the Fascist Corporations. Members of the Chamber were not selected to represent particular regional constituencies, but instead to represent various aspects of Italian industry and trade. They were the corporate leaders of Italy.
Imagine if the House of Representatives was dissolved and replaced by a Council of America's most powerful CEOs – the Kochs, the Waltons, the Blankfeins, the Dimons, the Mackeys, you get the picture.
Actually, that's not too difficult to imagine, huh? But, that'd be similar to what Mussolini defined as fascism.
As we know, fascism was eventually defeated in World War 2. But just before the end of the war, with the fascists on the ropes, the Vice President of the United States at the time, Henry Wallace, penned an op-ed for the New York Times warning Americans about the creeping dangers of fascism – or corporate government.
He defined a fascist as, "those who, paying lip service to democracy and the common welfare, in their insatiable greed for money and the power which money gives, do not hesitate surreptitiously to evade the laws designed to safeguard the public from monopolistic extortion."
Under that definition we can throw those CEOs who've decided to evade Obamacare's mandate to provide health insurance to their employees, like New York City Applebee's franchise owner Zane Terkel, Papa John's CEO John Schnatter, and executives at Darden Restaurants.
Or, perhaps, Wallace is referring to the banksters at Goldman Sachs who knowingly evaded laws and sold investors "shitty deals" or scammed entire cities into bankruptcy or illegally foreclosed on thousands of Americans through fraudulently robo-signing all in the name of short term profits and all in the name of preserving their monopolistic, too-big-to-fail status.
Either way, evading laws meant to protect the public in order to pad your own pockets has become the name of the game in Corporate America today.
Wallace goes on to write, "The American fascists are most easily recognized by their deliberate perversion of truth and fact. Their newspapers and propaganda carefully cultivate every fissure of disunity, every crack in the common front against fascism."
Can anyone say Fox News, or the rest of the Conservative media complex? Or, those on the Right who divide working people and turn them against each other: makers versus takes, public sector workers versus private sector workers, and white people versus brown people.
"They use every opportunity to impugn democracy," wrote Wallace. Does that sound familiar after months of Republican efforts to disenfranchise large swaths of the electorate with voter suppression ID laws, as well as restrictions on early voting and voter registration in largely Democratic areas?
Or what about what Republicans in Pennsylvania are doing right now to rig the next Presidential election by changing how Electoral votes are counted in the state?
Wallace continues, "They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest. Their final objective toward which all their deceit is directed is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."
We often hear of free enterprise from the likes of Wall Street, Big Oil, and the defense industry. Yet these are the same corporations that also lobby to keep generous taxpayer subsidies, bailouts, and no-bid contracts in place that allow them to reign supreme over the markets and crush their smaller, more independent competition.
And the common man suffers as a result. Wages as a percentage of GDP are lower than they've ever been. Unionization rates are lower than they've ever been in more than a half-century. And yet, corporate profits as a percent of GDP are higher than they've ever been in American history.
At the time Wallace was writing this op-ed, he was confident that the fascists had been adequately held in check in America by the Roosevelt Administration. As he wrote, "Happily, it can be said that as yet fascism has not captured a predominant place in the outlook of any American section, class or religion."
But, he went on to warn that in the future, "[Fascism] may be encountered in Wall Street, Main Street or Tobacco Road. Some even suspect that they can detect incipient traces of it along the Potomac."
Sure enough, the bastions of fascism can be found on Wall Street. Main Street, which used to be lined with local independent businesses, is now lined with predatory, transnational giants. And along the Potomac, we find politicians who are more than happy to do the bidding of their corporate overlords.
Today in America, we are dangerously close to seeing Wallace's fascistic, dystopic America come into fruition. We see the traces of it everywhere.
Unfortunately, too many Americans just didn't have a word to define what's happening. But, thanks to John Mackey, and thanks to the foresight of Vice President Henry Wallace, we do have the right word now: Fascism.
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So what's yer point as related to this article?
Patients forced to deal with life and death issues through customer service phone trees with "helpers" who get paid incentives to deny care?
Sure, that's really working out!
Obamacare might not solve everything but it's a start.
Medicare for everyone.
The health 'insurance' industry is just that----an industry devoted to profit, not patient care!
If I were the CEO of a company whose business was in the retail/entertai nment/hospitali ty sector, I would keep my politics to myself. I would not comment on controversial issues and leave my company name out of anything that might offend customers. I wouldn't want to do anything to drive customers away from my business.
Wake up! There's nothing in the Whole Foods operation that's epecially "liberal" or "progressive." And there are plenty of Republicans with money who are wandering up and down the Whole Foods aisles.
Homer Simpson and Archie Bunker don't shop at Whole Foods. They can't afford the prices.... However, the George Bush and Ronald Reagan crowd love Whole Foods. And Mackey loves the country club people. They're his kind of folks.
It's important to understand Capitalism promotes more self-centered, aggressive, money hoarding scumbags like John MacKey than unselfish, spiritual, loving and cooperative individuals like Gandhi.
It is in the essence of this sick socio-economic system to promote psychopaths, than spiritually motivated individuals.
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"How strange it is that a fool or knave, with riches, should be treated with more respect by the world, than a good man, or a wise man in poverty."
Ann Radcliffe (1764 - 1823)
We already know what he thinks and acts....but you think he needs to say more to keep you away from ontributing to his bottom line?
Ain't benevolent paternalism grand?
Amazing! Where do you think that folks like the Koch brothers get their groceries?
A few years ago, I can remember the local Republicans laughing at the New Age. Then, word around that one of the Republican leaders in our area was spending a lot of time with "alternative healers" and spa resorts. After that news leaked to the press, the conservatives stopped laughing over the New Age. (Maybe some of the corporate chiefs started going to massage parlors. Why not?)
Hitler was a vegetarian who worried about his diet. He would be easily accepted as a Whole Foods customer.
The USA was ideally started as a democratic capitalist country, but has evolved. Today our country is better described as a simi-socialist democracy. Our government may not own the means of production and distribution, but we do exercise a good deal of control through government regulation.
The great debate in this country is just how much should that control be and that will be decided by the voting public. Thus all the hoopla in the media by the politicos. In the end Democracy still wins!
You are very close to correct when you note that Capitalism and Socialism are economic terms. Either may be politically a dictatorship of some sort or a democracy of some flavor. So what we have are continuums. Or rather Venn diagrams. Capitalism is one circle, Socialism is another.
Now, when you take the two political circles, of dictatorship and democracy. If you totally overlap dictatorship with capitalism, you get Fascism. If you totally overlay dictatorshiip with Socialism, you get Communism.
Socialism totally overlaid with democracy is anarchy, and Capitalism totally overlaid with democracy has never existed, nor been defined.
All that is to point out that the US as defined in our Constitution is an itersection of all four. The Constitution is silent on Capitalism issues, but that was the emerging economic system at the time so they were uncertain how to define it. But it does call for democratic institutions and limited socialism, which was not yet defined either.
So at the rebirth America with the Constitution, we were a republic (a blend of dictatorship and democracy) with a defacto captalist and defined socialist economic structure.
But remember the Venn diagrams, just a slight shift of one of the 4 circles can make a dramatic difference.
You have it exactly backward.
Benito Mussolini. part of the Italian fascist dictators writing to the question "What is fascism"
Bankruptcy is free enterprise,
Bailout is government backed fascism.
So Like the modern socialist that predominate our democratic party they also have little respect for individual rights.
Bravo! You've provided a nice description of the way that things work in America. The small-time operators can sink or swim on their own. The big corporations get government protection.
It's not really "socialism." The appropriate terms are "fascism" and "corporate statism." Mussolini turned against the socialists and - in his last years - he cursed socialism and he sent a lot of socialists to prison.
However: If you like, try a different name... "National Socialist Party?" Might make a hit, don't you think?
Accepting that definition spares you beating your head against a wall trying to understand why our so-called Democratic presidents and congressmen/wom en constantly do the bidding of the 1 percent. Just like the Rethuglicans.
yes, that is right, and sometimes something that looks "fascist" if it was in the middle of a bunch of other fascist policies is fascist, and sometimes it is just government co-operation with corporations, ie. the plutocracy, corporatocracy, truth be told.
i don't have a problem with that sometimes, but what is happening for a long time and still escalating, now, is that the government passes secret sweetheart deals for the corporatocracy and has been ignoring everyone but the extreme poor in order to sour everyone on social programs, meaning that the American people are being lowered towards equality with their working counterparts in the third world.
what that does at the same time is to also undercut our rights, and we can see that happening as well.
~Benito Mussolini
Not much Dollars though ... So, not much of that kind of voice.
No, I don't think Dollar is the only effective voice we have. Hint: think 'Occupy'.
It is an option to take down these "too big" and crazy pigs who support (lobby) the right wing agendas (union busting - to not hiring full-time 40 hour/ week employees) - get the picture?
Yes, exactly .. Almost like they invented it...
Fast forward to Present USA where the Banks, Insurances companies, Financial magnates, select Auto manufactures are bailed out deemed as "Too Big to fail" and the tax payers are forced to pay the bill to cover their incompetency.
Add to that forcing every citizen to purchase health insurance is a huge boost to the health insurance industry -- guaranteed customer base.
Clearly the Democratic party is fascist.
The main difference between North American fascism and Mussolini's was that it was also built on an "organic" theory of politics in which the individual achieved personal meaning by becoming an active part of the collective project (think bee hives).
So far, this romantic, emotional subservience to the state is only a theme but not a dominant one in the USA. So, I'd direct anyone interested to Sheldon S. Wolin's "Democracy Incorporated: Managed Democracy and the Specter of Inverted Totalitarianism " newly published in paperback by Princeton University Press.
Wolin is about 90-years-old. He became famous among political scientists in about 1960, when he published "Politics and Vision", went off to teach a while and came back with this gem.
I like him when I didn't trust anyone over 30; I like him more now that I don't trust anyone under 65 (and not many over it either).
actually when the government is granting huge favors such as purchasing one companies goods over and other and not even permitting other companies to exist or to compete fairly -- that is not private sector it is just another wing of government.
I think you are very wrong about that.
It is interesting in the documentary after seeing the way farms have been industrialized and the nutrition has been squeezed out of the food and the respect for life out of the process, there was someone who made the point that if they treat animals like that, what are they treating humans like ... their employees or their customers ?
We can change our world with every waking # folks....
After all they sell lots of "natural" foods that would have to be labeled if they contained GMO's....
The campaign did not discuss the threat to health and agriculture...i t was all about "let's know what's in our food." I can just hear the conversations among the activists who believed the line that "simple is the best advertising" when being persuaded to stick to that idea and not delve into the deep dark nastiness that GMO's are, for the public campaign.
Ugh.
The right seems to succeed more than anything else in dumbing down conversations. The rest of us have to constantly correct their puerile, uninformed ideas about everything from climate change to whether the US President was born or not, the meaning of and reasons for the second amendment, the meanings of fascism and socialism and the list continues.
Their disdain for education in science and history is appalling.
Second World War? It developed, in large part, because the big corporations in Italy, Germany, and Japan wanted protection from the Communists and better access to natural resources like oil and food-producing land.
Without the support of the big corporations - and the military - bums like Hitler would have stayed in the gutter.
the legislation was crafted by the pharmaceutical industry. in concert with president obombya and his staff[was that liz foster?] and the corporate-owned congress.
i am certain that if a constitutional republic persists in the usa, that we shall eventually learn what a complete raping and pillaging of the public took place by large medical corporations with the connivance of the u.s. govenment. at all levels: executive, congressional, judicial.
when it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck - it is fascism.
However, the Affordable Healthcare Act is a start on a project that cannot be allowed to linger unfinished. There is much work ahead. Democrats in the House and Senate have already started this new legislative period by re-introducing the public option and other AHA re-inforcements .
While we all seek and find ways to be and stay healthy there are times when more advanced, more sofiscated medicine can mean the difference between life and death, a health future vs. a crippled one. Ensuring that this medicine is available to everyone is the goal. Why?
First it's humane. Most importantly, it enables individuals to take care of their families, work and be productive, enjoy life. Surely, that is a goal worth striving for.
So it means those negative votes are coming from pseudo-progress ive folks who STILL think Obama is "their leader"??
I like to clarify my thoughts on that.
Obama was the focus of my support in 2008 but soon enough after taking power I realized he was all talk while acting in the opposite to his promises.
Obamacare has NOTHING TO DO with a Universal Plan I LIVED WITH while I was in Canada for 18 years.
Obama was AGAINST having a Universal Plan from the very beginning of the backroom talks he held with BigPharma.
OBAMA IS NOT A PROGRESSIVE, he is in fact a TROJAN HORSE doing much more damage to progressives than Bush or Cheney ever could, precisely because pseudo-progress ives are supporting him against their best interests, just the same as Tea Partiers support Banana Republicans against their own interests.
They just don't like to admit that Obama is a fascist, but they like all the bail outs and government forced payments to private companies that fascism promises.
Apart from that, as usual, a damn good article.
Mr Mackey, just in case you missed the billboard that stretches from coast to coast, we are now witnessing the 1st generations in American history to be worse off than their parents...
A couple of words come to mind: Arrogance.. Ignorance.. Shame..
The Corporate coup d'etat of "We the Real People's" government and the colonization of our communities by fictitious "citizens" (fat cats) has just gotten old. Way, too old..
Fascism is the means by which people deprive others of free will, self discipline, and personal responsibility.
The antithesis, is the means by which we accept those things, and refuse to delegate responsibility, to anyone. That includes earthly government, but also,"God". So if anyone believes in a God, who gives free will, that person believes in an Anarchist God.
Fascism, being the means by which we are deprived of, (which includes being deceievd into giving up), free will; deprives us of the means by which we can learn the value of co-operation, and learn from our mistakes. If we have to do as we're told, we're not responsible for what goes on, the people who give the orders are. So we can always blame them. It's the Nuremburg excuse.
Fascism includes red fascism. That's the way by which the majority deprive us of free will, instead of a dictator + followers.
We can be deprived of our free will, and thereby not have "souls", by our own figments of imagination, which may manipulate, and govern our lives. The figments may be of a great leader, an imitation "God", money, fear, addiction,a devil, the list is as long as whatever we can dream up, that can manipulate. The ultimate fascist has no power of its own. It is a parasite. Just like confusion, the more it manipulates, the more paranoid we become. And the stronger it gets.
You can destroy it, by not feeding it.
When that doesn't work, the right will switch and call the same policy socialist, which may have a core of truth to it. However, they still connect it to Hitler, because the Nazis co-opted the word "socialist" in the acronym that stood for their party. Just further proof that the current right wing will say anything to advance their position without regard to the truth or what is best for the country.
What is irritating is how the right, or anyone for that matter, can label a policy as socialist, as though tending to the general (common) welfare is a bad thing. I suppose that will continue until the American Public educates themselves, and drops their over zealous support of the rugged individual, and stop their virulent opposition to people helping each other.
Many millions of Americans have been so well conned into believing in and supporting the quest for relentless less and Less Government (Smaller Government) as shoveled and foisted through the deregulated, now very narrowly owned and exploited 'Corporate-Amer ican' Media they believe its the Will of God..
It's sold as the Gospel pathway to greater freedom, liberty and prosperity for All. Yet, if anyone (especially over age 50) just paused and looked around at actual reality, they could see the TRUE outcome of 'SmallerGovernm ent' as brought about by 30+ years of less and less regulation and taxation of the Wealthy Global Corporate Class and privatization of evermore Government Functions into the hands of the Global Corporate Class.
America has been led down a path of self destruction, rapid decline, severe national division, less civil liberties, runaway corruption, an expanding reality of a two class system of haves and have nots, endless war, a corporate-contr acted national-securi ty state, less food and drug safety, a crumbling infrastructure, a declining standard of living--ETC. ETC..!
Less Government as promoted by the Corporate Right, has led to a lot LESS for Most and a lot MORE for Fewer and Fewer.
government without anyone from the small elite corporate boardrooms that all communicate and share the same ideals.
the government gets too big when average people have any part of it.
What psychologists call subconscious mind, what Buddhists call monkey mind, what scientologists call reactive mind, (all misnomers, because the mentality of such a thing, ceases to exist, when mind is withdrawn from it; mind does not.), and what Christians and Muslims refer to as "Satan", are all the same thing. The ultimate, fascistic parasite, with no understanding, and no power of its own, other than to gain power, from our ignorance of what we can do, when we truly have internal stability. That's when we can function at optimum.
That's when we truly understand our situation, and the ignorant forces of reaction,have nothing to feed on. So they cease to exist.
Because we have power insurance companies and reps that are easily paid off we the people are stuck in a horrible healthcare vice grip where people's lives are not as important as profits. This system is hurting tens of millions of people. What we need is universal health care like all the other developed nations.
Democracy is majority rule such as two wolves and a sheep voting on lunch.
let us consider the usa's medical industry for a moment.
among all the industrial nations with some notions of democracy, the usa medical costs are the highest by a pretty large multiplier.
crazier still, the results are not all that good. we don't get much for our money in the usa.
and why is this, do you think? it is because the medical industry runs the legislative process[via their lobbyists and pacs].
perhaps you missed the story of how amgen was able to insert an amgen-beneficia l clause into the recent "increase the debt" legislation.
how many lobbyists does amgen employ in DC? 74.
i have a pretty good sense of what a rip-off u.s. medical care is. i have had mri's in france, japan, montenegro. cost: no more than $150usd.
have you seen what mri's cost in the usa?
even mri's conducted with machines that were bought and paid for over a decade ago.
the citizenry in the usa has only two options, economically. cease all militarism, global invasive psycopathy, or cease all medical care.
amongst the medicos that i know, and i know way too many as i deal with stage 4 cancer, we often discuss how medicare funds are spent. i think it is more than 70%. they all expect medicare will be cancelled for u.s. citizens over 80 years of age.
now, there is a death sentence for millions of u.s. citizens. which will become a policy of the state.
WalMart and Whole Foods have both been on my “do not patronize” list for eons. Scratch the surface and you’ll find both are practitioners of putrid, morally bankrupt, neoliberal capitalism.
All you good and true folks who shop at whole foods: Please stop. Stop now! Find another food co-op. Whole Foods is just another of the behemoths referenced by Theodore Dreiser—“The government has ceased to function, the corporations are the government.”
That sounds a bit like the classic definition of socialism, doesn't it? Which means that Whole Foods, by profiting from the American agricultural system, is....?
Hmmmmm.... Good insights.... The age of small-scale farming has almost ended in America. Big corporations and their lobbyists manage the system. Call it "agribusiness."
The national government provides subsidies to tobacco farmers. Employers are free to abuse immigrant farm workers. And, of course, the farmers get lots of special supports from government.
The big-time producers control government programs? Call it "fascism."
Also we are doing it the expensive way by using insurance agencies. We need a government sponsored single payer way so the goverment can bargan to reduce health care. Every other modern country does it that way, and we are behind in health care and way ahead in cost of health care.
I definitely have no problem including the Whole Foods CEO in the category of a Fascist in cahoots with the TPrepublican machine.
Those who complain about ObamaCare can't explain why they don't like it. They can't tell you how it works, how it hurts or what the rules are. They just don't like it.
Just because a guy got rich off an idea like Whole Foods doesn't make him an authority. His argument reveals his ignorance and his greed. It's really sad that some people like that in themselves and in others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwwXgPiySto
Obamacare is a fraud for the benefit of the private insurance corporations.
Obama is a scumbag who is a sweet-talker stabbing all his supporters on the back with his actions.
To force people to purchase expensive private insurance to fatten their already bloating asses, is criminal.
Mackey is a rich person who has schooled himself in how to talk nonsense to people, while at the same time making them feel privileged, and real smart.
He is the kind of Fascist that loves to point out how Mussolini (that well known Fascist) made the railroads run so efficiently. His company is about Whole Foods, not wholesome foods. His political philosophy is that the ends justify the means, rather than the true progressive credo that the means justify the ends!
This complete issue is a prime example of how uninformed and disengaged the majority of the American public is when it comes to what it means to be a citizen, in what is touted as a democracy.
50% of our fellow citizens DO NOT VOTE! Of the 50% who do vote, too often more than 50% of those voters manage to elect people who are against these same voters' best interests. What is wrong with this picture?
Fact: We are a former colony of Great Britain.
Fact: In 2010 murder by gun in the USA was 8775!
Fact: From 9/2010-9/2011 murder by gun in Great Britain was 58!
Fact: Great Britain has 1/5 the population of the USA.
Do the math! Conclusion: We are an immature nation, bordering on uncivilized!
Fact: There are 50 states in the United States of America.
Fact: In 2010 murder by gun in the country known as the United STATES of America was 8775.
Fact: The country of Great Britain, the whole country, not just one 'state' in the country, had a total of 58 murders as a result of guns.
Fact: Since the population of Great Britain is one fifth that of the United States, five times 58 equals 290 murders by gun as compared to 8775!!!!
Your statement, comparing a COUNTRY with a STATE is an insult to the intelligence of the RSN community, and an indication that you need to be more careful in your reading of comments, and even more careful before you decide to comment.
John Mackey is right to call Obamacare and other forms of central planning and regulation of economic activity fascism.
The government regulated, bailed out, subsidized economy is fascism. So when Thom advocates a regulated economy, he is the one pushing fascism. The exact opposite of what libertarians (authentic liberals) advocate.
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