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Conason writes: "On Friday the Republican politicians who had so angrily demanded the testimony of David Petraeus about Benghazi got what they wanted - and what they deserved."

David Petraeus testifies before the Senate. (photo: Kevin Lamarque/Reuters)
David Petraeus testifies before the Senate. (photo: Kevin Lamarque/Reuters)


Petraeus Testifies, McCain Shuts Up

By Joe Conason, National Memo

17 November 12

 

n Friday the Republican politicians who had so angrily demanded the testimony of David Petraeus about Benghazi got what they wanted - and what they deserved - when the former CIA director set forth the facts proving that their conspiracy theories and witch-hunts are dead wrong.

Appearing behind closed doors on Capitol Hill, Gen. Petraeus, recently resigned from the spy agency over his illicit affair with biographer Paula Broadwell, answered questions from legislators concerning the tragic Sept. 11 assault that left Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other diplomatic personnel dead.

When the session concluded, Petraeus was spirited away. And Senator John McCain (R-AZ), whose criticism of the Obama administration over Benghazi has verged on hysterical, emerged from the hearing room with very little to say to the reporters waiting outside.

"General Petraeus' briefing was comprehensive. I think it was important; it added to our ability to make judgments about what was clearly a failure of intelligence, and described his actions and that of his agency and their interactions with other agencies," said McCain, adding, "I appreciate his service and his candor" before abruptly fleeing as reporters tried to question him.

McCain's curt statement was in sharp contrast to his voluble remarks on Thursday, when he denounced UN Ambassador Susan Rice for what he and Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC) described as her misleading description of the attack on Sunday television shows a few days after it occurred. (It later emerged, embarrassingly, that his posturing before the cameras on Benghazi had prevented him from attending a scheduled hearing on that subject. He didn't want to to discuss that either.)

Essentially, McCain and Graham, joined by Senator Kelly Ayotte (R-NH), accused Rice on Thursday of lying and covering up the fact that the Benghazi consulate had been attacked by terrorists affiliated with al Qaeda. They vowed to prevent her confirmation as Secretary of State, should the president nominate her to replace Hillary Rodham Clinton.

But with McCain departing so abruptly after the Petraeus hearing, it was left to others, including House Intelligence Committee chair Peter King (R-NY), Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), and Sen. Kent Conrad (D-ND) to reveal what their Arizona colleague didn't care to discuss. In his testimony, Petraeus blew apart the half-baked theories offered by McCain and Graham - and left them looking foolish.

On earlier occasions, King had echoed the same complaints made by McCain and Graham, but after Friday's hearing he reluctantly admitted the truth: Petraeus had confirmed that the CIA had approved the talking points used by Rice, tentatively blaming the incident on a notorious anti-Muslim video sparking demonstrations in Cairo and elsewhere at the time. Although Petraeus said he had believed that terrorists were responsible, that suggestion was removed from the talking points in order to protect the ongoing FBI investigation into Benghazi, which Rice also mentioned.

As King explained in response to reporters' questions, Petraeus not only confirmed that any allusion to al Qaeda had been removed from the talking points given to Rice, but that his agency had consented to that decision:

Q: Did he say why it was taken out of the talking points that [the attack] was al Qaeda affiliated?

KING: He didn't know.

Q: He didn't know? What do you mean he didn't know?


KING: They were not involved - it was done, the process was completed and they said, "OK, go with those talking points." Again, it's interagency - I got the impression that 7, 8, 9 different agencies.

Q: Did he give you the impression that he was upset it was taken out?

KING: No.

Q: You said the CIA said "OK" to the revised report –

KING: No, well, they said in that, after it goes through the process, they OK'd it to go. Yeah, they said "Okay for it to go."

In short, Rice was using declassified talking points, developed and approved by the intelligence community, when she discussed the Benghazi attack. So McCain's nasty personal denunciation of her , along with most of his claims about how the White House handled Benghazi, has been blown out of the water like so much naval scrap. The Arizona senator, his colleagues, and their loud enablers on Fox News and elsewhere in the wingnut media will never apologize to Rice. But that is what they owe her.

 

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+292 # MainStreetMentor 2012-11-17 13:26
Clearly, following this "clarification" regarding the tragedies of Benghazi, not only have the Republicans' potential "fuse" of scandal been extinghished ... it becomes glaringly obvious: There is NO leader at the helm of the RepubTeacan Party. Not Romney. Not Ryan. And, now, certainly NOT McCain. The snake is headless.
 
 
+108 # vicnada 2012-11-18 05:45
...except for the slithering innuendo that will continue on FOX, devoid of reporting on Petraus' fair and balancing facts.
 
 
+119 # Linda 2012-11-18 05:48
There is NO leader at the helm of the RepubTeacan Party.

Exactly ! The Tea Party madness took over the Republican party now everything is a witch hunt with them !

Republican's never admit they are wrong and they never apologize even when proven wrong !
Actually they are a pretty disgusting lot if you ask me.Why anyone would think anything they say is credible is beyond me.
 
 
+22 # mike/ 2012-11-18 13:12
yep! that pretty much covers it, Linda! i believe you nail it:

leadership - def. "The activity of leading a group of people or an organization, or the ability to do this.

In its essence, leadership in an organizational role involves (1) establishing a clear vision, (2) sharing that vision with others so that they will follow willingly, (3) providing the information, knowledge, and methods to realize that vision, and (4) coordinating and balancing the conflicting interests of all members or stakeholders. A leader comes to the forefront in case of crisis, and is able to think and act in creative ways in difficult situations. Unlike management, leadership flows from the core of a personality and cannot be taught, although it may be learned and may be enhanced through coaching or mentoring."
 
 
+26 # bingers 2012-11-18 19:18
Quoting Linda:
There is NO leader at the helm of the RepubTeacan Party.

Exactly ! The Tea Party madness took over the Republican party now everything is a witch hunt with them !

Republican's never admit they are wrong and they never apologize even when proven wrong !
Actually they are a pretty disgusting lot if you ask me.Why anyone would think anything they say is credible is beyond me.


Actually, there is. The Koch Brothers took over the Tea Party very shortly after their founding and have provided most of their funding.
 
 
+71 # BlueReview 2012-11-18 05:52
Quoting MainStreetMentor:
. . . the Republicans' potential "fuse" of scandal been extinghished ...


I sure hope you're right. Not having any facts to go on doesn't seem to have stopped them yet, when one accusation is rebutted, they've come up with another.
 
 
+37 # Independentgal 2012-11-18 09:11
Unfortunately you've nailed it. They'll just come up with something else to rant about, something devoid of facts. And they have so many followers who've been brainwashed by their various propaganda outlets that this will continue for a long time. The Republican governors may want to change the message, but I don't see how they can compete with Fox, Rush, and the others of that ilk. If Roger Ailes becomes worried about ratings, things may change slightly at Fox, but I don't see Rush and the other radio haters toning anything down.
 
 
+10 # ABen 2012-11-18 14:32
Very well put MSM!
 
 
+1 # mdhome 2012-11-21 19:37
"The Arizona senator, his colleagues, and their loud enablers on Fox News and elsewhere in the wingnut media will never apologize to Rice. But that is what they owe her."

THIS says exactly what happens when you shoot from the mouth without any aim! And are they ever without any aim.

The snake is headless, but is it finally dead?
 
 
+269 # lasholiver72 2012-11-17 14:34
Always delighted when McCain shuts up.
 
 
+74 # Barbara K 2012-11-18 05:32
Absolutely! You'd think he and his colleagues would learn to keep their mouths shut until they KNOW what happened and know what they are talking about. Shooting from the hip just shows them up for the nutjobs they are. McCain is having a meltdown before our eyes. Time for him to get off that committee, he cannot be trusted to know what he is blabbering about.
 
 
+31 # doneasley 2012-11-18 15:46
Quoting Barbara K:
Time for him to get off that committee, he cannot be trusted to know what he is blabbering about.


Hi Barb: This display by McCain, Graham, and Fox News has been disgraceful. They feel that the only way they can "win" is to find some tidbit of information that will allow them to bring impeachment charges against President Obama. They only dishonor the offices that they've sworn to uphold when they were elected.

By the way, this Tea Party House may be around for a long time. The 2010 census allowed redistricting by the dominant party in each state - the very reason the Repugnant Party maintained control of the House. Studies show that if districts had remained the same as they were in 2008, the Dems would have won the House.

But that's water over the dam or under the bridge, however you look at it. The point is that McCain, Graham and Fox Noise have sullied the reputation of Susan Rice, and owe her an apology - which we know will not be forthcoming. How can McCain accuse anyone of being nonqualified for the job, after selecting Sarah Palin as his running mate to be one heartbeat away from the presidency.

I certainly hope the president nominates Susan Rice to be Sec'y of State!!!
 
 
+22 # Barbara K 2012-11-18 17:06
You are so correct. They owe her a big apology. However people like that don't have the decency to apologize. They just sully anyone's name and that is their goal. Time to sully their names, dontcha think? Wonder how they would like it if we treat them as they treat us? Did you see the "Liberals Unite.com" today? Very interesting info on Romney's Bailout Bonanza (he's been charged) and how the election rigged machines were stopped. Now we know why the Rs were so surprised that they lost. lol.
 
 
+3 # Barbara K 2012-11-18 18:23
doneasley:

HERE IS THE LINK TO LIBERALS UNITE:

http://samuel-warde.com/
 
 
+63 # Doctoretty 2012-11-18 06:09
He should have apologized to Rice!
 
 
+19 # Pickwicky 2012-11-18 12:35
And furthermore, lasholiver, there goes McCain's chance of establishing himself as the present leader of the Republican Party. Which raises the following question: who would want to be leader of the GOP?
 
 
+20 # kelly 2012-11-18 13:49
McCain lost that chance years ago when he deferred to the radicals who forced him to take an unvetted empty-headed nincompoop as a vice-presidenti al candidate. His hope for a legacy of respect and regard went with it.
 
 
+1 # mdhome 2012-11-21 19:41
It is sad to see how far he has slide down into the slime that the party has become, he has past the expiration date.
 
 
+134 # CAMUS1111 2012-11-17 15:32
It appears McCain and Graham are about to come out of the closet...
 
 
+41 # in deo veritas 2012-11-18 07:35
Not sure about that. Fresh air and sunlight are life-threatenin g to their kind.
 
 
+24 # robniel 2012-11-18 10:25
Quoting CAMUS1111:
It appears McCain and Graham are about to come out of the closet...


They both need to fade away. They are political failures.
 
 
-74 # Activista 2012-11-17 18:11
Israel: Gaza Flooded With Missiles From Libya -- News from Antiwar ...
news.antiwar.com/.../israel-gaza-flooded-with-missiles-from-li...Israel: Gaza Flooded With Missiles From Libya. Anti-Aircraft Missiles Probably Came From Looted Stockpiles. by Jason Ditz, October 17, 2012"
Wonder ow much Petraeus "affair" has to do with Israel attack on Gaza. It will create more hate against US Army - and little "hearts and minds" strategy.
 
 
+23 # kalpal 2012-11-18 02:50
Which anti aircraft missiles are those? Are you contending that Iran sold Libya the missiles being used by Hamas? Is that a direct quote from Iran's intelligence agency head?
 
 
-10 # Activista 2012-11-18 11:20
news.antiwar.com/tag/libya/
please read the references/URL Kal!
 
 
-26 # A_Har 2012-11-18 07:54
Quoting Activista:
Israel: Gaza Flooded With Missiles From Libya -- News from Antiwar ...
news.antiwar.com/.../israel-gaza-flooded-with-missiles-from-li...Israel: Gaza Flooded With Missiles From Libya. Anti-Aircraft Missiles Probably Came From Looted Stockpiles. by Jason Ditz, October 17, 2012"
Wonder ow much Petraeus "affair" has to do with Israel attack on Gaza. It will create more hate against US Army - and little "hearts and minds" strategy.


Gee, ONE PERSON managed to try and think outside the box and gets 34 thumbs down responses for it. Nearly everyone else lines up like sheep accepting the party line. Now isn't that exactly what they want you to think?

Sad. Somethink is rotten about this whole "affair." It may or may not have to do with Gaza. Maybe Petraeus did something that pulled him up short. The CIA is NOT the boy scouts club, and people who go against its "rules" can get killed--even the so called insiders. "I appreciate his service and his candor"...his "candor" may also be motivated by self preservation.
 
 
+10 # Billy Bob 2012-11-18 10:43
Could you be more specific about your accusation? Right now, I'm having conspiracy theory overload.

There are REAL conspiracies. People who see them where there's no evidence give the rest of us a bad name for things like: wanting an investigation about 9-11, or setting the record straight about Kennedy's assasination.
 
 
-5 # Activista 2012-11-18 11:19
Libyan Government Bankrolling Syrian Rebels
05 November 2012 | News | Jason Ditz
Libyan Government Bankrolling Syrian Rebels | More than half of SNC’s funding came from Libya
etc.
news.antiwar.co m/tag/libya/
 
 
0 # Barbara K 2012-11-18 18:26
BB: Check this out: Link for Liberals Unite:

http://samuel-warde.com/
 
 
-1 # germain@berlin 2012-11-19 16:59
Quoting Billy Bob:
Could you be more specific about your accusation? Right now, I'm having conspiracy theory overload.

There are REAL conspiracies. People who see them where there's no evidence give the rest of us a bad name for things like: wanting an investigation about 9-11, or setting the record straight about Kennedy's assasination.


Yes, there are real conspiracies - for example, the Serbian Secret Service in the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand that precipitated WW1 or the assassination of Lincoln, among others.
However, with regard to the Kennedy assassination decades of claims by conspiracy theorists have brought nothing more than: Oswald and Oswald alone. I daresay the same will be the case in a few decades with 9/11: Arab Moslem terrorists, most of whom came from Saudi Arabia.
Sorry, it's not A_Har's nonsense that's giving you a bad name.
 
 
+2 # Innocent Victim 2012-11-19 19:01
The events of 9/11 were concealed by conspiracy, in my view. Though common sense may be wrong in fields like quantum physics, in the worlds of engineering and politics it is an excellent guide. Buildings do not collapse as did the Twin Towers and Building 7, unless they have been detonated. Much else is unexplained about 9/11, but this is not the place to go further. The motives for the concealment conspiracy depend on who the perps really were. If an inside job, it was to justify invasions in Af-stan and Iraq by means of a phony "Pearl Harbor" event. If an act of terrorism, the concealment of the detonations was for the purpose of hiding how inept our security services were (intelligence, military). Our government lies and lies and lies. What else it does, who can say?
 
 
0 # robcarter.vn 2012-11-19 21:18
Only way Bush could win was rig vote to steal Gore's win, and to get a 2nd
term make a big war lie as Innocent Victim says and cover up.
Add to this when nearly sprung by Ambassador Smith report to CIA Petraeus:- I
do agree in fact I see his failure to stop the US Ambassador Libya
assassination may even be complicity for GOP cover-up of my suspicion of
Lebanon Godhafi as the missing link General Clapper suspected Viz., In
2003, Clapper, then head of the National Geospatial-Inte lligence Agency,
attempted to explain the absence of WMDs in Iraq by asserting that the
weapons materials were "unquestionably " shipped out of Iraq to Syria and
other countries just before the American invasion, a "personal assessment"
which Clapper's own agency head at the time, David Burpee, "could not
provide further evidence to support. I always believed too much coincidence
in the timing of Gaddafi giving up WMD's claiming them his program, and
Sadam claiming he had no WD's and now I smell a rat, perhaps Ambassadore 2012 found evidence Clapper & Bush
couldn't, or hid to cause the War that Koffee Annan says Bush/Blair lies
deserve trial in ICCJ Haigue, USA says no and so GOP Petraeus guys hid is
by arranging Ambassador & staff & key evidence disappear and now Petraeus
again covering with Resignation after more lies he now repeats to
Parliaments even after the delay. Watch his new reward Job IARPA was under him DARPA $3.2bn budget is magnetic?
 
 
+3 # rockieball 2012-11-19 10:06
Gee follow party line like sheep. That sounds very much like a Republican Fox News watcher to me.
 
 
0 # ksan51 2012-11-19 15:47
More like thinking outside of reality.
 
 
+63 # AMLLLLL 2012-11-17 21:19
Poor apoplectic McCain is trying to make himself relevant again, and now no one will ask him onto a committee. He'll be a wall flower. Graham must be a loyal dog to go along with the whole charade, and Ayotte no doubt has learned a lesson; stay away from men who are still in competition with their fathers.
 
 
+77 # Liberalthinker 2012-11-17 21:46
lindsey Graham is an embarrassment to my native state.John McCain has joined his status and become a contender for jack-ass of the year.
 
 
+20 # Doctor J 2012-11-18 11:22
Quoting Liberalthinker:
lindsey Graham is an embarrassment to my native state.John McCain has joined his status and become a contender for jack-ass of the year.

I think my state can compete with all the others in the embarrassment contest. We have McCain, Brewer, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, "papers please" legislation, etc., etc.,etc. Isn't it just too much that the guy who unleashed Sarah Palin on the world criticizes the intelligence of Susan Rice,a Rhodes Scholar?
 
 
+10 # Bruce Gruber 2012-11-18 16:58
C'mon! Mitch McConnell AND Rand Paul ... ?!? You can't devolve further than that - UNLESS you don't believe in devolution.
 
 
+67 # dick 2012-11-17 23:14
Does McCain understand how far he has fallen? Does Romney?
I wonder what John's approval rating would be nationally, or even recognition rating? He's busy erasing whatever good there may have been in his legacy. No fool like an old fool.
 
 
+20 # Independentgal 2012-11-18 09:17
It's too bad. McCain used to be a fairly principled person. Methinks he's still licking his wounds from 2008 and hasn't accepted the fact that the American people preferred another leader over him.
 
 
+12 # Billy Bob 2012-11-18 10:44
I think his entire history was one of self advancement. Sometimes taking up a "principled" cause served that purpose. As soon as it didn't he switched loyalties immediately.
 
 
+7 # bingers 2012-11-18 19:24
Quoting Independentgal:
It's too bad. McCain used to be a fairly principled person. Methinks he's still licking his wounds from 2008 and hasn't accepted the fact that the American people preferred another leader over him.


Actually, Barry Goldwater, whose best friend was McCain's father refused to back him because, in Gol;dwater's words, "He has NO principles."
 
 
+30 # stonecutter 2012-11-17 23:19
McCain is like an aging, dissolute former baseball star who is trading on his ancient fame as a terminally awkward greeter in a sleazy Vegas hotel. OK, he was a POW, FIFTY YEARS AGO; he was also near the bottom of his class at Annapolis, traded shamelessly on his father's power and privilege, and was for all intents AWOL during the Forrestal fire at sea. Now he is a desperate, bloviating bag of wind trying to remain "relevant" in the Senate as he descends with the rest of us into geriatric decrepitude. The chorus is loud and clear: you lost...now STFU! Better yet, retire to Sedona and STFU!
 
 
+4 # bingers 2012-11-18 19:26
Not only that, he was the worst pilot in the Navy, having crashed 4 planes on his own before he was shot down.

And a number of his fellow prisoners said he was a collaborator with his captors.
 
 
0 # Regina 2012-11-18 00:33
Keep in mind:
 
 
+74 # Regina 2012-11-18 00:42
Keep in mind: McCain and Graham didn't have the manhood to apologize to Susan Rice for their unwarranted vicious attack. But what the hell, she's a double target, female and Black, for those rattling Republican rattlesnakes. McCain chose to deliver his ignorant rant at the exact time of the confidential committee meeting where the official information was communicated, completely exonerating Rice. Apparently he thinks we pay him for politicking, not for doing his job.
 
 
+23 # in deo veritas 2012-11-18 07:40
Unfortunately that is what the citizens of AZ have been doing for years.
 
 
+7 # America 2012-11-18 08:48
Amen
 
 
+36 # dovelane1 2012-11-18 00:48
I wondered for a long time if they weren't just trying to buy some time to see if they could figure out exactly who did it.

I'm still waiting to hear who the agent was that went to Cantor before the election, and why this hasn't come out. (Mentioned in the Jane Mayer article on this site.)

And why haven't McCain and Graham mentioned this yet? It smells of political intent to me. And very ripely, might I add.
 
 
+21 # Barbara K 2012-11-18 05:45
The FBI agent was on one of the MSNBC shows, (Rachel, I think) on Friday night. Sorry, I didn't memorize his name, but if you can check all the evening shows, Like Ed Schultz, etc. You may be able to find the info you see. And yes, I think the Rs were trying to politicize a true tragedy. Shame on them. There are family members to consider.
 
 
+55 # genierae 2012-11-18 01:04
Republicans never apologize, they just move on to the next accusation. McCain and Graham are foolish old men who are ending their long careers by making laughingstocks of themselves. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
 
 
+67 # ER444 2012-11-18 01:29
The Obama administration MAY NOT let this be swept under he rug. They need to demand an apology from Senators McCain and Graham. Mr. Obama needs to get tough with these incompitent idealogues in the face of many upcoming "negotiations" on everything from the so-called "fiscal cliff" to finally making the richest pay their fair share, stopping coddling the oil industry, real health care reform... the list is endless. Mr. Obama, call out these thugs for what they are and get to work doing that for which we elected you, NOW!!!
 
 
+49 # NOMINAE 2012-11-18 03:04
Quoting the article :

"In his testimony, Petraeus blew apart the half-baked theories offered by McCain and Graham - and left them looking foolish."

Music to my ears indeed, but to be honest, the Good General really didn't have that far to travel in an effort to leave them "looking foolish" !
 
 
+4 # kalpal 2012-11-18 05:03
Jason ditz is an ignorant fool.
 
 
+41 # RMDC 2012-11-18 05:18
The snake is headless. That's good. But only for a moment. New heads are sprouting as we write -- Bobby Gindal, the creep from Richmond Eric Cantor. Don't worry this snake has a thousand heads. Watch out -- they all have fangs.
 
 
+23 # in deo veritas 2012-11-18 07:43
Then let's pull their fangs. Prosecute the Bush crime family, Cheney, Rove, et al to make an example of them and serve fair warning on the aspiring reptiles that they will not be tolerated when thewy work against the well-being of our country and its people.
 
 
-40 # RMDC 2012-11-18 05:23
The real story here is that bitch who set Patraeus us is not talking and suggesting this was a sado-maschoisti c relationships. Patraeus liked to play maschochist - whipped, degraded, humiliated. Some military colleages of his are confirming the rumors. Now that is just great -- a sadomaschoist running the wars and CIA.
 
 
+12 # Terrapin 2012-11-18 12:06
RMDC "...this was a sado-maschoisti c relationships. Patraeus liked to play maschochist - whipped, degraded, humiliated."

And YOU know this for certain because ... RUMORS?
 
 
0 # RMDC 2012-11-21 03:31
terrapin -- of course it is just a rumor right now. But more will come out. The FBI specializes in finding out about every politician's wierd sexual practices and they blackmail politicians all the time with the information they have. Keep looking for leaks and confirmations. The machochist Patraeus will be outed in time. His nickname was not "Peaches" for nothing.

Admiral William Fallon called Petraeus an "ass-licking little chicken-shit" to his face. Fallon will have more to tell is Patraeus shows his face in public again. We will hear just whose ass he has been licking.
 
 
0 # RMDC 2012-11-21 03:35
My reference to "the bitch who set him up" is an allusion to the former mayor of Washington DC who was set up by a woman sent by the FBI to seduce him. She gave Marion Barry crack cocaine and sex while the FBI filmed it all. When the FBI finally broke into the hotel and caught Barry sucking on a crack pipe, his first words were "the bitch set me up." I'm sure Patrasus is saying that now. Too bad we are not shown the videotapes on national TV news.
 
 
+4 # bingers 2012-11-18 19:31
Quoting RMDC:
The real story here is that bitch who set Patraeus us is not talking and suggesting this was a sado-maschoistic relationships. Patraeus liked to play maschochist - whipped, degraded, humiliated. Some military colleages of his are confirming the rumors. Now that is just great -- a sadomaschoist running the wars and CIA.


Bearing in mind he's a Republican and was a prospective presidential candidate, that (if true) doesn't surprise me. I remember a call girl being interviewed before the Republican convention in NY being asked whether she'd rather have the Republicans or Democrats in town. She said the Democrats because they just have sex and go while Republicans want all kinds of weird, sick stuff.
 
 
+8 # pappajohn15 2012-11-18 05:45
One "conspiracy" theory, which neither side will want to touch, is that the attack was really on the CIA station in Benghazi, where the spy agency is holding detainees, illegally. The ambassador was actually killed as collateral damage.

Since both Democrats, the media and especially Republicans are ok with this unlawful activity in the mistaken guise of national security, this will never see the light of day.

Oh, well...
 
 
+26 # Janice 2012-11-18 06:34
When will these jerks stop the DRAMA. They have to try at every opportunity to make Obama and his staff look incompetent. While doing this they hang themselves because there is NOTHING incompetent about our President or his organization.
 
 
+19 # herman_the_german 2012-11-18 06:57
Hearing local radio spewing hate about it based ONLY on the FOX 'reports' is sickening.

Why is it that no one cares but FOX?

This has been such a FOX fueled non-issue, that I can barely muster interest to read whole articles and devote more than only a few minutes.

Reading this headline made me smile though.
 
 
+26 # flippincuteM 2012-11-18 07:01
Let's hope women remember the huge mistake Ayotte did in aligning herself with McCain and Graham. Not only was it STUPID on Ayotte's part from an informational sense; but she is a REPUBLICAN WOMAN SENATOR.. in..the Party that consistently, blatantly and unashamedly proves itself time and time again anti-women. If the Trio refuses to acknowledge their mistake collectively, in the same fashion they did initially, then Ms Ayotte should show what a BIG GIRL she is by apologizing to Ambassador Rice herself Would give Ayotte some much needed credibility and, at the same time, distance herself from the Angry Old Men Hacks whose boats have sailed.
 
 
+4 # jjj 2012-11-19 09:10
Quoting flippincuteM:
Let's hope women remember the huge mistake Ayotte did in aligning herself with McCain and Graham. Not only was it STUPID on Ayotte's part from an informational sense; but she is a REPUBLICAN WOMAN SENATOR.. in..the Party that consistently, blatantly and unashamedly proves itself time and time again anti-women. If the Trio refuses to acknowledge their mistake collectively, in the same fashion they did initially, then Ms Ayotte should show what a BIG GIRL she is by apologizing to Ambassador Rice herself Would give Ayotte some much needed credibility and, at the same time, distance herself from the Angry Old Men Hacks whose boats have sailed.

I notice most of these comments are about the Bluster Boys- Mccain and Graham.
Ms Ayotte is "my" senator (I'm in NH) and should not be lightly dismissed. She is ambitious and knows how to play politics. She has also shown herself to be firmly devoted to the standard modcon line of giving money to the military and the wealthy. Ignore her at your peril. I plan to work for whomever is running against her when she is next up for re-election.
 
 
+24 # jack406 2012-11-18 07:05
You know that McCain has great judgement and wisdom - NOT!
He's the one who picked Sara Palin to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. The American people are much smarter than McCain. And American Kindergarten students are smarter than Palin.
 
 
-9 # Innocent Victim 2012-11-18 10:19
That Sen McCain would pick a dummy for V.P. indicates a great deal about our presidency in the 21st century. McCain is not alone in this regard. The Democrats may be similarly accused. Many important figures in both Parties do not worry about the competency of a presidential candidate. They worry only about his or her possibilities of winning election. Remember, Obama was also a political unknown, a man with an undistinguished and brief record in the Senate. His major qualifications were his affability, his key-note speech in 2004, and his appeal to racially guilty white voters. As we have seen in the past four years of warring, violations of the Constitution, unpunished corporate crime and threats to SS, Medicare and Medicaid, the worst has come to pass.
 
 
+6 # bingers 2012-11-18 19:34
Quoting jack406:
You know that McCain has great judgement and wisdom - NOT!
He's the one who picked Sara Palin to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. The American people are much smarter than McCain. And American Kindergarten students are smarter than Palin.


I have little or no respect for McCain, but in his defense, he didn't pick her. She was forced upon him by the far right nuts who wanted an ultraconservati ve moron on the ticket because on occasion McCain actually tells the truth. Not often enough, but sometimes, and truth is to Republicans what garlic is to vampires.
 
 
+14 # tclose 2012-11-18 07:19
It's a shame to see a guy who used to be honorable degrade himself to this degree.
 
 
+16 # in deo veritas 2012-11-18 07:47
Spiro Agnew, who had a way with words, perfectly described this breed of nitwits as "nattering nabobs of nihilism". At the time he was directing this at his opponents, but now it fits the Rethuglicans like a glove.
 
 
+20 # flippincuteM 2012-11-18 07:55
AS I write this John McCain is being given a platform on FACE THE NATION It is disgusting He just said"Maybe Ambassador Rice can come back and admit she is wrong" Same old same old. This supposed LIBERAL.PRESS supports these clowns ad nauseum. McCain actually had the audacity to castigate the President's anger AGAINST HIM.Sen Durbin is up now. McCain supported Condi is being torn apart by Schieffer."Why Senator is this so suspicious",Bob asked.
Durbin is countering well bringing up Regan and Bush. Love how Schiwffer just apoligized for not giving him much time. Yeah right Durbin nailed it but McCain given more time to spin his lies.
 
 
+9 # Barbara K 2012-11-18 09:16
It figures. Much of the media want scandals, not true facts. They are magnets for the Tbaggers, like McCain; who hasn't uttered a sensible sentence in quite some time.
 
 
+7 # Pickwicky 2012-11-18 12:38
Barbara--"true facts" is redundant. Facts are by nature true.
 
 
+13 # DurangoKid 2012-11-18 09:26
There are three precepts in the practice of law. One, if you have the facts, pound the facts. Two, if you have the law, pound the law. Three, if you have neither, pound the table.
 
 
+12 # Innocent Victim 2012-11-18 09:59
Republican mischief-making and ineptitude is long-standing. It goes back to blaming Democrats, the State Department, Communists and traitors in the entertainment industry for the "loss" of China in 1949. It was not harmless mischief: many reputations and careers were ruined, and it set the stage for McCarthyism and for LBJ's war in Vietnam. LBJ was too cowardly to face the rabid right-wing with a withdrawal from Vietnam; so he invented the Tonkin Gulf incident to begin a war in which 58,000 US servicepeople were killed along with a couple of million Asians. The joker is that it was the right-wing Republicans who "lost" China by refusing to have any diplomatic liaison with Mao Zedong throughout the entire Chinese Civil War. It was like our policy toward Castro's Cuba: isolation. We ended up in both cases by isolating ourselves.
 
 
-1 # robcarter.vn 2012-11-19 00:15
The story's not out yet. See wikipedia etc.
"Benghazi a CIA base for secret operations" I think this goes a lot deeper & back to as ex-UN S/Gen., says should Bush/Blair see an ICCJ War Crime trial? Watergate/Irang ate/Libigate. Ambassador in Consulate 10pm. Guards ok, 10 CIA & 3 menleave boss in rubble, asphyxiate 4 hrs villagers get him to Dr., 90 min. dies. CNN reporter finds Ambassadors diary, but CIA and guards don't have a smoke breather mask even in the safe-rooms, can't find the Boss or the secret papers. They mostly trapped by a handful of AK47's the night before agreed to let the boss suffer.
Did Gaddafi get paid big Saddam $$$ to cover his arse by handing over the WMD's GWB materialised in a dream. Then with Blair justified a $5bn war and millions of deaths. Did someone now reveal the evidence that Koffee Annan said would turn up and GOP 2016 President wannaby at CIA agree to fix matters of an Ambassador & papers, that his boys should deliver home. So after arranging a sub-contract terrorist event, and keeping his 10 braves at AK47 pinned down just 1200 meters from the action, an event is manufactured. Later to cover his tail, by accepting resignation on a red herring distraction, that was another risk anyhow with the "Hells fury of women scorned" of something. He was in charge of IARPA as well and that has $100mn spy budget from DARPA's $3.2bn budget a good job awaits and a prettier boss there anyhow, single at that.
 
 
+14 # Innocent Victim 2012-11-18 10:02
An excellent assessment of David Petraeus's failures in the Middle East is given by Prof. Juan Cole and may be found on WWW.democracynow.org

Instead of weeping over Petraeus's resignation, I say good riddance!
 
 
+11 # Charles3000 2012-11-18 10:29
The attack by McCain and Graham on Rice is a great teaching of how politics and political ideology can trump, conceal and perhaps erase any wisdom possessed by some people in the political scene.
 
 
+7 # Pickwicky 2012-11-18 13:02
We must remember that the class of all things that is a Republican is like an infected ingrown hair. Their naive belief that Romney would win the election by a landslide is proof of their inability to live outside their membrane. And, ha, ha, their infection is self-inflicted. Yes, they infect themselves with the deadly bacteria that is talk radio. Eventually the infection spreads to Republican officials who, worried about their ambitions, pop the boil and it explodes all over the real world. What appears to us as sick rumors run amok and yet one more desperate attempts to injure Obama, appears to them as real and supremely threatening. Republicans need wise people at the top leading the party, not weird nutcases at the bottom introducing deadly toxins into the membership.
 
 
+4 # bingers 2012-11-18 19:40
The reason they were sure Romney would win was because the fix was in. They stole 5 million votes, but they didn't count on having to steal 8+ million. If you have any doubt, just look at the expression on Rove's face as Fox called Ohio for Obama and the confusion and disbelief was palpable.

I did notice that Hamilton county went from blue to red late. That was one of the counties that had the Romney owned voting machines.
 
 
+1 # Pickwicky 2012-11-21 11:23
bingers--I sincerely hope you are wrong, but I fear you are right.
 
 
+12 # teineitalia 2012-11-18 10:58
I was loving the "McCain shuts up" part in the title of this article. If only he would. I still haven't forgiven the old coot for loosing Sarah Palin on us. What a national embarrassment he has become.
 
 
+1 # Pickwicky 2012-11-21 11:21
Ah, teineitalia, thank you for constructing the perfect description of the filthy deed McCain did to the world: ". . . loosing Sarah Palin on us."
 
 
+8 # WallStWallFlowerGirl 2012-11-18 11:12
Rupert Murdoch, Roger Aisles, Sinclair Broadcasting (that which controls Talk Radio- Rush's arena), is the Oz behind the curtain.

Controlling our airwaves, they pimp out talking heads, hire egregious politicians to promote the malfeasance within & in their network of billionaires, make sure this stressed out nation is inundated by the shiny objects of new iGadgets- thereby taking attention away from the obsolescence of democracy.

I opt out of the diversion of hysteria & boycott all shopping the weekend after Thanksgiving; my "Black Friday," is doing the dishes & my gifts are rarely, if ever, mass produced.

Today, the only "power" we have as the People, is as consumers & only a massive boycott of all things manufactured outside the Divided States of America is what can empower change in society. Just like a neighborhood potluck- the people who play together, stay together.

Craft Faires, flea markets, yard sales & consignment shops keep it here & keep it local. Recycle & reusing won't increase big box store sales, which makes stock holders richer who, instead of investing it in their employees, invest globally w/political machinations for personal gain. Eisenhower warned us of the Great Military Industrial Complex in his farewell speech. It's not just about militia goods, but about all the money connected that feeds the monster; he was talking about soldiers driven by the green of greed, not the green of uniform.

Think about it.
 
 
+7 # Billy Bob 2012-11-18 11:22
Good comments. If you want a mass boycott, we'll have to do a better job of communicating than we have in the past.
 
 
+8 # vgirl1 2012-11-18 12:58
McCan'tsayIwase verreallyaMaver ick, just got his "come-uppance". Still stewing over his 2008 loss to that Black man named Barack, and about to lose his current chairmanship post with nothing left for him to chair but Indian affairs, McCan't was trying to find something to "do"/head in the Senate to make himself relevant. Well, here's looking at ya, McCan't. Your days of relevance have long passed. It might be time to think about going home to one of those many houses you couldn't keep count of. Off to oblivion you go.
 
 
+8 # tbcrawford 2012-11-18 15:17
My God, I hope the poor American Indians aren't subject to McCain! I'm just rereading Frank Waters beautiful books and feeling guilty all over again at what we've done to these original Americans; They practiced more responsibility for our planet than we can possible imagine!
 
 
+8 # Innocent Victim 2012-11-18 13:59
We must ask publicly, even though many of us know this but share it only with friends: Republican leaders have a long record of unpatriotic behavior combined with an equally long record of flag-waving. Why is this so? In my view, the leaders are immoral and behave unethically. If they have any loyalty, it is to members of a very limited fraction of our people. They simply do not identify with ordinary USians, whom we now call the 99%, really the 99.9%. They identify with people in their country clubs, people just like themselves, if anyone. Their identifications , limited though they are, are shifting, opportunistic, self-serving.

The character of these leaders, John Boehner, Lindsey Graham, John McCain, need public exposure. Democratic leaders are not far behind them in their disloyalty to most of our citizenry. They are just a bit cleverer about it. Our political system brings these types of people into prominence. It needs changing badly.
 
 
+4 # bingers 2012-11-18 19:45
No Republican can say, truthfully, that they are patriotic or Christian after their actions the last 32 years.

I'm sure many of the red state voters believe they are, and in their heads they are, but it's only because they are stupendously ignorant. Anyone else notice that a huge majority of red states are also the states with the worst education?
 
 
+7 # Archie1954 2012-11-18 14:05
They are typical Republican blowhards. It would be best to simply ignore their ignorance from now on.
 
 
+7 # margpark 2012-11-18 14:09
I have never seen why the Republicans were so upset about video response or terrorist attack. Do they think had the President started screaming terrorist attack he would not have been re-elected? Obviously the Ambassador should have been better protected no matter where the attack came from.
My sister, a republican on right wing mailing lists was quite upset about what was first reported but I never really understood why.
 
 
+8 # fredboy 2012-11-18 15:14
I encourage McCain and others to pursue the truth related to the 9/11 attacks--the 9/11/2001 attacks that killed 3,000 Americans.

We never got answers, just a softball commission. Time for a full set of criminal investigations and resulting prosecutions.
 
 
+8 # wfalco 2012-11-18 15:47
The whole Benghazi event was exploited by the Republicans before and after election.
Used beforehand to attempt to smear Obama Admin as foreign policy "incompetents." All by design as they knew full well "getting to the bottom" of a CIA operation would be merely impossible.Also knew it would be impossble to uncover "the truth" about any CIA operation.

Senate insiders knew Benghazi was all about CIA and was highly classified.Is it really a large stretch of the imagination to surmise that Petraus's personal affair was uncovered after the election to bring back the Benghazi "scandal"? With the hope that the General would be so dishonored that he would fail to testify. That he, perhaps, would committ suicide or distance himself completely from Washington? And who the hell is Jill Kelley and why on earth did she report so called "nasty" e-mails to an FBI agent?-(who happens to be a known right winger.) I smell an amateurish attempt of conspiracy-eith er leading to Obama not be re-elected, or character assassination after the re-election. They failed on both accounts.
 
 
+6 # phrixus 2012-11-18 15:50
Patraeus consistently reminds me of a sleazy ambulance-chase r or political hack e.g. an empty shirt void of substance beyond his astronomical penchant for self-promotion. Listening to him speak is akin to watching a smoke and mirrors magic show - all show and no go. As a honorably retired military veteran I am awed by the absurdity of tin and tinsel he chooses to layer about his uniform - much like chocolate sprinkles on a latte. The most heavily cluttered officer from a third-world banana republic or the old Soviet Union would be ill-advised to challenge Davey-Boy for the title of "World's Gaudiest Military Clown." Of course, what else should one expect from a guy that ran two wars via PowerPoint presentations?
 
 
+13 # revhen 2012-11-18 16:12
Bush HAD clear intelligence months before September 11, 2001, did NOTHING, and nearly 3000(not 4) were killed and you were accused of being a traitor if you even hinted at at this incredible failure.
 
 
0 # Uranus 2012-11-18 20:47
I read a great many articles about this. The Benghazi facility was called an embassy, a consulate and a CIA safe house. I read Juan Cole's counterinsurgen cy in Afghanistan story.

Here, Benghazi is a politicans' chess game for appointments.

I read a story that suggested Ambassador Stevens was providing secret strategic information to our opponents in Libya.

I saw al Qaeda blamed for the attack, and other articles swearing al Qaeda is only a term, not a real organization and barely an idea.

Petraeus stated there was no breach of security with the girlfriends, and classified data was found on their computer drives. Who are these people? Friday's meeting was secret.

The articles remind me of smoothing wet cement mix with a float. Something dramatic happened, and we can't see.

I get a lump in my throat over CIA director watch changes, and feelings of dread.

Whatever core issue(s) exist, here's a real one: we tiny, little people are too small and feeble minded to know the simple facts about who attacked Benghazi and why, what happened, and Petraeus' real story. It shouldn't be impossible to know the truth, but, as always, it's too much to ask.

In 50 years, we'll have heard a thousand equally valid accounts, and still won't know the whole, real story. I was deeply moved by this story in the back drop of the presidential election.
 
 
+1 # Innocent Victim 2012-11-18 21:40
President Obama made a very bad choice when he appointed Gen. David Petraeus to head the CIA. The CIA must make judgments on the performance of the military and on its chances of success in various situations. For Obama to have appointed a military person to head the agency that makes such judgments is about as bad as appointing financial advisers who advanced de-regulation of the banks. Wait! He did that too! What a dunce!
 
 
+3 # angellight 2012-11-19 11:08
COUP AND COUNTER COUP!

EXCERPT:

“This year, a cabal of generals evidently believed it could secure the White House for Mitt Romney by staging the Benghazi incident and using it as the signal for a cold coup under cover of elections — probably including computer-genera ted election fraud — to bring down Obama. They guessed wrong.

Politicians sometimes purge generals. When the French Secret Army Organization (OAS) staged a putsch in Algiers in April 1961 to prevent the independence of Algeria, President de Gaulle had to round up and jail a number of generals and other officers. The Obama administration and its establishment controllers appear to be ousting a number of intelligence and military officials who took part in illegal operations to replace Obama with Romney. These sackings are being presented to the public under the guise of soap opera sexual infractions or expense account padding, in the hope of hiding some real mechanisms of power from the popular gaze. The outgoing US military cabal favors the extension of colonial wars, like those in Iraq and Afghanistan, as well as an attack on Iran. Good riddance.”

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/11/19/273240/coup-and-countercoup-in-washington/
 
 
+2 # WMaceo 2012-11-19 14:46
Typically, when someone accuses you of doing something wrong, its likely they are the ones' who are guilty of the same thing - TRANSFERENCE... .So, all these wild conspiracy theories, and the accusations of Obama manipulating the press are all things Republicans would do or would think about doing, or would believe it was an acceptable way to do things, as long as you don't get caught. I don't think Republicans can even imagine an honest President or any other office holder to actually tell the truth and do the right thing. McCain has been a public servant for quite a while, before that he was a hero and a very patriotic soldier. I've admired McCain throught my life. Unfortunately, when he ran for President in 2008, he fell into the "system" and began to accept and fully embrace his party's way of doing things. Too bad he's ending his amazing career of service in this manner. I was hoping he would get back to who he is. Maybe he gave that up, or lost it on the campaign trail in 2008. I hope he can find it soon, or he'll leave office as a buffoon should he continue to operate from resentment instead of the greater purpose of society's best interests.
 
 
+1 # Bookmark 7 2012-11-20 06:46
Unfortunately, John McCain is a bitter, angry old man. He has never gotten over losing to Pres. Obama, and he has let his hatred of him color everything since then.

Yes he is a war hero, but if you look at the rest of his life he has not always done the 'right' thing. Look how he dumped his first wife in order to wed a wealthy woman who bankrolled his entry into politics.
 
 
+1 # herr 2012-11-26 14:56
Are we back to the Hoover days with the FBI hoovering up emails without
a court order and leaking the investigation in a partisan way?
There is a new video that I saw that deals with this issue as a
parody. Its funny but scary. The video suggest we all hide our internet
traces using a VPN, but how did we get into this postion as a country? Since the
Patriot Act have we given up so many freedoms that our only recourse is to hide
under a technology rock? That this in fact happened to our CIA Director is stunning.
Shouldnt the FBI be vilified in this? But somehow they are not and it has become a
personal tragedy rather than a governance tragedy. The media has barely covered
the FBI side of the scandal.

Check out the the Petraeus Broadwell Parody
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rMjnY-0q7M
 

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